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December 19, 2025 32 mins

Michael Berry kicks off Friday with laughs, nostalgia, and sharp insights. From streaming wars and Beatles nostalgia to a wild crime plot and a deep dive into evolutionary psychology.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time time, luck and load. The Michael
Very Show is.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
On the air.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Oh, yes, it is Friday. That's when we recenter, we
balance ourselves. We'll let it wash ow.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
You have him day, happy day?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
When when he war n see the way club a
habit day or happy day?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Happy or happy day?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Vinjito's war pretty warm Jo's war.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Three away?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
He cuts the habit.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
A happy day, a happy day?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Winters of war? Oh whenny wars winds of war three
years away? He need me a love.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Happy day? Day?

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Have you d.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
God? Have you dey? Oh? Happy day?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Or habitay?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Winter those walls when it war winter those wars three
is the way he needed to love me.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
The happy day, Oh long, good guy.

Speaker 7 (05:12):
Last week I started speaking before the end of A
Happy Day, and a woman said, how come you did that?
You ruined the song for me. That's how I start
my Friday. And what I heard while I was reading that,
what it reminded me of was peoples have kids and

(05:34):
they trying to feed for a special And you mean
tell me that we can't.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Feel like kids.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Because I didn't want enough chicken. I knew y'all was
having a special almost two.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Months ago, and that's wrong.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
And what I thought to myself was, lady, you didn't
know the song until I made it our Friday standard.
People we have, we have fostered a culture sure of
complaining everyone is wronged.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
All the time. Good grief anyway. Oh you gotta laugh
at it. You gotta laugh, and you'll go crazy now
to get us starting as we always do.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Curtis and greatest executive brucer and all the land. Chatta
cone naganisi, chatta Coonie KNOCKANSI you're.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
A week of.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
Be responsible when you go to the party. Watch too
many people ruin their careers at the Christmas party. And
it's always Steve in a county, who's the nicest guy
in the whole company, and he gets a few drinks
in him. Before you know it, he's dry humping the
CEO's wife behind the drummer over to the side.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Just don't do it.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Please know your limits. I've watched it happen too many times.
Bombshell article published in Vanity Fair Big Profile.

Speaker 7 (06:54):
It was eleven interviews that Susie Wiles gave.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
The interview included Wiles calling Vice President J. D.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Vans conspiracy theorists for a decade and saying President Trump
has an alcoholics personalities is ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
There is a desperate need for every conservative, for every
Republican to be considered part of the group, to fit
in with the liberal media.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
People are all up in arms because Atlanta Falcons running
back John Robinson reference the kids tackle football game.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
It's sneer the queer.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
If that is offensive to someone. First of all, I
don't think the word queer is actually offensive to the
problem is there are people who try to make a
name for themselves by creating a tense moment. They just
run around trying to cancel people because the doings of
the real world are not interesting enough.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
That was such a simpler time.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
And the.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Legend Aaron Barker.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Bill days just like the good old days.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's just perfect.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
That's why it's just perfect, and it's exactly what you
want if you're Blue Beelt.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Now, let's leave aside that they need to stop these
stupid new flavors.

Speaker 7 (08:07):
You need homemade vanilla and at Christmas time you can
do pistachio on and that's about it.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Blue Belt is just like.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Look good old game.

Speaker 9 (08:22):
So much.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
I would love to know what percentage of our Michael
Verry Nation has a subscription to Disney Plus. So let
me back up for a moment. I didn't grow up
with cable TV. We had three stations NBCCBS, ABC. Of

(08:50):
course Fox has a network didn't exist back then. And
then you'd have and those were the VHF and then
you'd have the UHF station. But we could never actually
get it, so you'd go over there to Station twenty
on the different dial and me kind of grainy. At
one point you could watch a little bit of a
Rockets game, but it was it was bad. It was

(09:12):
like watching it in a snowstorm. And then along came
cable TV, and we lived out in the country, so
we were the last people to get it. I remember
the man came out to set up the cable TV
and the first thing he did when he turned it
on and connected it, we were inside and he's outside

(09:32):
working on it.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Great Bape came on.

Speaker 7 (09:36):
That was the first thing I saw on cable TV,
and well, people forget when you've been on rabbit ears
antennae before, that is how.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Crystal clear crisp cable TV looked to your eyes. At
that point.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
It was.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
It was life changing, and I remember that first summer
I watched every It was a baseball nut. I watched
every game the Atlanta Braves in every game of the
Chicago Cubs. We had WGN out of Chicago and we
had WTBS out of Atlanta. And I watched the Braves

(10:15):
because I loved Dell Murphy, Bob Horner and amazing pitching staff.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
That was fun.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
But I watched the Cubs because I loved watching to
see how drunk Harry Carey was going to get and
by what inning he was going to be, just sloshing
and falling around.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Loved it.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
And then cable TV had to run of the place
for I don't know, thirty five years, and then all
of a sudden you had these apps coming along taking
advantage of a new technology. You didn't need to have
cable TV that you could rip off from your neighbor.
Now you can watch it on your phone. And TV
got fat. Cable TV got fat over the years. They

(10:55):
got real fat and didn't need to you know, they
were like they were like a big telephone company or
big hospital system or the defense department. They got really
fat and didn't have any competition. And then all of
a sudden you had the apps that come along, and
now you end up paying what you would have paid

(11:16):
for cable. But you got all these apps unless you
don't Unless you don't do the apps, So one of
those is Disney Plus. Now you never keep up. Then
you got Hulu and you never know. They're always trying
to get you over there for you know, it'll be
ten cents for this month.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's all that. What was the Columbia House?

Speaker 9 (11:33):
Here?

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Two cassettes for two pennies and then for the rest
of your life, we will hound you to buy full
price cassettes. So Disney Plus is constantly trying to get
content that will get people to subscribe, and then you
won't ever be able to unsubscribe. So they just rolled
out the newly remastered Beatles Anthology. And now this is

(11:58):
something people have been waiting for for years. It's sharper clearer,
and they're promising a new level, a whole different level
of insight into what it was actually like to be
a Beetle. And we got our hands on a little preview,
and here's a sample of what you can expect.

Speaker 10 (12:15):
Two this week on Disney Plus, experienced the Beatles' Anthology
as you've never seen it before remaster, restore and revealing
every microscopic detail of what it was really like to
be a Beatle. So on Tuesday, hand breakfast, eggs, having
a coffee, want.

Speaker 9 (12:34):
A tea, but then they were out. George drank the
last of it. He did that he was saving the
leaves anyway. Coffee was a bit warm, not hot, just warm.
So that I read the newspaper.

Speaker 11 (12:47):
Didn't not to stand half of it, politics, you know,
And I went upstairs, walked the program about God and
turned out what about Dodding and Old It was about Texas.
So then I read a book, a nice book, maybe
a book, And for the first time ever, Paul explains
the exact moment he realized he.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Was out of socks. Man looked at the drone, said blimey,
where's these socks?

Speaker 7 (13:11):
They were in the wash.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Fascinating time. This is anthology like never before.

Speaker 10 (13:18):
No music, no mystery, just extremely detailed accounts of four
British men doing very normal things. Well, I always forgoll
After the book, I had a biscuit, The Beatles Anthology,
the Minutia mix streaming, now free coffee, maybe teeth.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
If George didn't take it, I'm sighted the.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
It's interesting because my kids don't watch television.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
They don't have programs that they watched.

Speaker 7 (13:49):
They're eighteen and nineteen, a high school senior in a
college sophomore, and I grilled them about these sorts of things.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
You know, what do you.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
You know when you're on your phone or your iPad?
What are you consuming?

Speaker 7 (14:05):
And it is it is a lot of things that
it's mostly user generated, So TikTok or Instagram. They will
check in on what their friends are doing in terms
of what they're posting. But it doesn't have to be
people that they know. It can simply be you know

(14:27):
what mister beast or I don't know if mister Beech's
but what these personalities are saying and doing. They're not
particularly attached to musicians actors. They do both love sports,
so if somebody is trashing Saquon Barkley or Derek Henry,
they'll listen to the argument and then disagree. There's a

(14:50):
certain amount of TikTok immediacy to the fact that nothing
nothing drags, and I think that's always been true.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Of young people.

Speaker 7 (14:59):
Young people don't want you know, when you get older,
you can handle nuance a slower developing program.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Young people want bang, bang in out.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Quick, and they'll sit there for four hours watching things
in five second intervals. But that's how they consume things fascinating.
I don't know what that means for when they're our age,
if they will love what was the stuff of their
childhood or not. Because I'll watch a Beatles anthology, I'll

(15:29):
watch anything on Elvis. I am far more likely to
watch something that delves into something that happened before nineteen
eighty than I am something modern.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 7 (15:42):
I suspect would you minimail love to hear from you,
Michael Berryshow dot com?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
You can just says then, Michael, I'd be curious to
know if that's true.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Of you as well.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Would bring you this story mostly just because it's crazy.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
Two North Texas men have been charged over a plot
that included invading an island off Haiti, murdering the men
on the island, and using the women and children as
sex slaves.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
The story from WUSA DC, the.

Speaker 8 (16:22):
US Attorney's Office out of Texas Eastern District, says, over
the course of about a year, Tanner Thomas and Gavin
Weisenberg planned to invade ganav Island, a territory of the
Republic of Haiti. Court documents filed Thursday show Thomas and
Weisenberg allegedly plan to take the island by force, murder
all the men on the island, which has a population
of about eighty seven thousand people, and carry out their

(16:45):
rape fantasies by turning the remaining women and children into
sex slaves. Investigators say the two planned by a sailboat
to travel from the United States to ganav Island. They
also plan to purchase military style rifles to use in
their coup, according to court documents, in January of this year,
Thomas enlisted in the Air Force to gain military training

(17:06):
to help carry out the attack, Officials say in February
twenty twenty five, while in basic training, Thomas had himself
reassigned from Ramsen Air Base in Germany to joint Bass
Andrews here at Prince George's County. Court documents say he
did this to be closer to DC so he could
allegedly recruit people experiencing homelessness to be part of their plot.
In August twenty twenty four, Weisenberg allegedly enrolled in the

(17:28):
North Texas Fire Academy to get trained in commanding control protocols.
Court document show Weisenberg failed out of the academy in
February twenty twenty five. Afterwards, Weisenberg allegedly traveled to Thailand
to enroll in sailing school, but didn't follow through with
it because the training was too expensive. Investigators say the
two suspects also studied Haitian creole to help facilitate their

(17:51):
armed coup plot.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Where to even begin. First of all, you wanted training
and taking over a nation, and you went into the
Air Force for an armed invasion. Look, I ain't mad
at the Air Force, but there's a reason the other
branches refer to the Air Force as taken showers. That's

(18:19):
not where you learn the skills for an armed amphibious invasion.
Maybe they weren't really well schooled in their branches of
the military. But wait, after his training in the Air Force,

(18:41):
he's then going to recruit homeless men as his fellow.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Soldiers or airmen. I guess.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
How is that going to work. You're going to sail
onto this island with a bunch of homeless dudes. I mean,
just imagine imagined the voyage there and I don't think
any country, island or not, has been taken over by

(19:16):
people who arrived by sailboat in centuries.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
That's old school. Oh here they come.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
That is that Captain Cook I spy. What in the
hell even Somali pirates have boats with a motor. He
went to Thailand to learn to sail. What kind of

(19:47):
can you imagine?

Speaker 6 (19:48):
You know?

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Their parents have said that kid, I swear I dropped
him on his head when he was little. They went
to Thailand to learn to sail, but the sailing school
costs too much, so that that was that was the sign.

(20:14):
They're also charged with production of child pornography in a
related count. Hmmm, how freak you is? How bad is
your fetish that that's what made sense for you to
do to super serve it, that you you are that

(20:38):
much of a freak that you're willing to do all
of those things.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
In order to.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Rape and subjugate women and children.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
I don't know, eighty seven thousand people and your specialized
Air Force training and your army of Washington DC ERA
area homeless men. I don't I can't even imagine how
that would turn out, but I must admit I'd like
to see the battle. I'd love to have I mean,

(21:17):
you talk about a reality TV show or more, I'd
love to have video of these two goobers.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Rolling it.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Let's assume that they could get their sailboat to Haiti.
Let's assume they could do that, because I'm not sure
that these Keystone cops could could pull this off. But
they get their sailboat to Haiti, They're loaded to the gills,
They're loaded.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
For bear.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
With their weaponry and their army of homeless men. Imagine,
I mean, you could do five episodes of just the
trip hitting there of the homeless men. Oh my, imagine
the homeless men on the sailboat and at some point

(22:13):
you've got to give them guns. How's that gonna work?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
And then.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
All right, let's say they don't shoot each other or you,
and you get the sailboat to arrive. Do you just
unload on the people when you arrive, because now you've
had your tie sailing school. I mean, if you hadn't
if you hadn't been able to pay for the tie
sailing school, you had your tie.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Sailing school training.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
And you arrive and you've recruited all your homeless men
because they're going to get to rap and pillage. So
some of them probably kind of dumb enough to think, yeah,
i'd be a good idea. I don't know if you
train them. Can you imagine what the boot camp for
the homeless dudes would look like? All right, okay, I bite,
all right, and you've got your specialized Air Force training
for amphibious assault. And now you have arrived and you're

(23:07):
just I guess you're just going to start killing the
men until you come to the conclusion that you killed
enough of them that you're you're ready to declare yourself
the king Mamba of of this Haitian island, and no
one is going to come to outside assistance.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Can you imagine.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
They're prosecuting them and trying to get them for thirty
years in prison for all the stuff they've done.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Can you imagine in prison when the other inmates hear this.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Story, Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, is disrespect shoot?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
You can't shoot.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Pass it's been refolkes.

Speaker 7 (23:55):
And so every day I get pitches from PR agents
and they'll say, you know, would you like to interview
this actor they're in this movie, or this author who's
in this book? And nine a nine point nine percent
of the time. I'm just not interested. I don't know,
no thanks, nothing against that person's work. I just doesn't
interest me. But I came across a pitch for an

(24:21):
article that was published entitled Evolutionary Psychology and the Crisis
of Empirical Rigor in Feminist Studies. Okay, I've got my attention,
and it argues that much of modern feminist scholarship has
drifted from empirical science, that which we know to be

(24:42):
true and can prove it, into ideology. Well, now it's
not science anymore, is it rejecting biological and psychological I'm
reading psychological evidence that explains sex differences in behavior, preferences,
and outcomes. So what I saw here was something of
a clinical scientific approach to what we see happening but

(25:07):
can't necessarily may not have the words the concepts to
be able to define it. And so I thought, well,
let me see if I can get this professor on,
and here we are. His name is Professor Mark Defant.
Is that defant or defunct?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
It's defont defunt. My apologies, Professor Mark Defint.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
First of all, the background behind why you wrote this,
I noted in your in Looking you up, you were
a professor of geology at the University of South Florida.
So this would seem like it would be outside your
usual realm.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
Normally it would be. By the way, thanks for having
me on. I started out as a geochemist, published extensively
in geochemistry and on the volcanologist. By training, I studied volcanoes,
not Balkans. But about thirty years ago I started teaching

(25:59):
in our university's honors program, which gave me a lot
of ability to teach things I thought were interesting in science,
and I started getting into evolutionary psychology and I got
so excited about it. I just couldn't help reading everything
I could get my hands on, and I think eventually

(26:21):
I became sort of an expert on it. I lectured
in my courses on it, and then went and started
writing research articles on it. So that's how I got started.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Well, let me make very clear, Professor Mark Defant, I
am a lapsed attorney.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
My license is not active.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
I've never gone to medical school nor architectural school, but
daily I opine I've not. I have no culinary training,
but daily I practiced law. Pretend I'm a doctor. Criticized
architectural styles offer expert opinion on food, So I'm not
opposed to a cross jurisdictional extracurricular expertise. I am fascinated

(27:08):
by your findings here. Let's dive into those and why
you felt this was important to get to. So I've
got about five minutes left in this segment. I'm just
going to open the doors to you and let you
go and I'll cut you off.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Sounds good. Well, briefly, I think I come from a
unique position in that I bring a scientific research perspective
to feminist studies, and I learned along the way that
feminist studies was against evolutionary psychology, or at least many

(27:47):
many of the people of the scholars in feminist studies
are trying or attempting to refute evolutionary psychology. Would you
like me to get into a little bit of evolutionary psychology?
Do we have the time for that?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Make time.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
I think this is an important discussion, so even if
it bleeds into obviously we're going to need multiple segments
to get through this. It's not your typical talk radio conversation,
but I think it's the sort of University of life
thing that people need to hear.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
So yes, take it away, well.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
I'll briefly get into it.

Speaker 10 (28:20):
Then.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
What biology finds is that there are differences in the
animal kingdom, humans included differences between men and women. I
think most of us, if you're not a sociologist, knows that.
But for some reason in sociology, in feminis studies in particular,
there seems to be this idea that men and women

(28:43):
are the same behaviorally, even though we have very different
physical differences. But evolutionary psychology is looking at it from
a different perspective. We're trying to understand why there are
behavioral differences between men and women, and all starts out
with the sperm in the egg. Men produced millions of

(29:06):
sperm and women, in contrast, over a lifetime, only produce
a women a number of eggs, and then that puts
them into a kind of a predicament in hunter gathered
society because they have to be careful. If a woman
in an hunter gathered society got pregnant, they might be

(29:30):
faced with raising a child with no help from the
husband or his side of the family. So it's important
for women to choose carefully, and I think that explains
why women are much more selective and sexually reluctant than

(29:53):
men are. Men would not be in hunter gathered society
as burdened by a woman getting pregnant, and of course
that relates indirectly to you know, women in a hunter
gathered society having to choose carefully making sure that they're
going to get male parental investment, that is, where a

(30:18):
man is going to help raise the children. And so
women started choosing men on the basis of whether they
were going to, you know, be good parents. And it's
interesting men choose too, but women women are particularly make

(30:40):
choices based on whether or not they're going to get
male parental investment, so that weighs heavily on who women
form long lasting relationships with. And we can see this
happening if you go back to our history in a
hunter gathered scyty, we started out our ancestors about four

(31:02):
to seven million years ago, started out with brains about
the size of chimpanzees, and as brains began evolving to
the large size of a relatively short period of time
geologically speaking, the birth canal it did increase in size,
but only to the extent that only twenty five percent

(31:28):
of the development the brain could take place inside a woman,
and so that meant that when babies were born, they
were born pretty much helpless, and so this was another
burden on women. They not only had to be careful
about who the parent was, whether they were going to

(31:49):
give some parent parental investment, but they had to make
sure that that father was going to be around for
a long period of time while these children developed.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
Would Professor Mark Defanca is our guest we will continue
regarding his article, peer reviewed in Sexuality and Culture titled
Evolutionary Psychology and the Crisis of Empirical Rigor in Feminist Studies.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
More to come
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