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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Very Show.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Is on the air, the report that Charlie has died,
that he's dead.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
At the age of thirty one, which he would have
to be if that video is real. There's no way
he survived that. Only good thing is it had to
have happened quickly.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Charlie inspired millions, and tonight all who knew him and
loved him are united in shock and horror. Charlie was
a patriot who devoted his life to the cause of
open debate and the country that he loved so much,
the United States of America. He fought for liberty, democracy, justice,
and the American people. He's a martyr for truth and freedom.
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Charlie was also a man of deep, deep faith, and
we take comfort in the knowledge that he is now
at peace with God in heaven.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So close your.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Eyes, you can't close your eyes. It's all right.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't know no love songs, and I can't sing
the blues in love.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But I can sing in a song, and you can
sing all when I'm gone. At the core of the left,
at the core of a liberal is someone that would
use the sword if they have.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
They are very violent people at their court.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
They always have it. They can't debate, they can't have conversation,
resort to these tactics. They're gonna do everything they possibly
can to try to murder this movement because they can't
beat us, so they're gonna try to take weapons.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
How do you want to be remembered? If I die,
everything just goes away. How would you if you could
be associated with one thing, how would you want to
be remembered.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I want to be I want to be remembered for
for courage, for my faith.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
That would be the most important. The most important thing
is so close you.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Can't close your eyes. It's all right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I don't know no love songs, and I can't sing.
President Trump has ordered flags flown at half staff through
Sunday to mourn Charlie Kirk. He had the following to
say about him.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
To my great fellow Americans, I am filled with grief
and anger at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk or
a college campus in Utah. Charlie inspired means, and tonight,
all who knew him and loved him are united in
shock and horror. Charlie was a patriot who devoted his
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life to the cause of open debate and the country
that he loved so much, the United States of America.
He fought for liberty, democracy, justice, and the American people.
He's a martyr for truth and freedom, and there has
never been anyone who was so respected by youth. Charlie
was also a man of deep, deep faith, and we
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take comfort in the knowledge that he is now at
peace with God in heaven. Our prayers are with his wife, Erica,
the two young beloved children, and his entire family who
he loved more than anything in the world. We ask
God to watch over them in this terrible hour of
heartache and pain. This is a dark moment for America.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
President Trump went on to say.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
From the attack on my life in Butler, Pennsylvania last year,
which killed a husband and father, to the attacks on
ice agents, to the vicious murder of a healthcare executive
in the streets of New York, to the shooting of
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise and three others, radical of
political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken
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too many lives. Tonight, they asked all Americans to commit
themselves to the American values for which Charlie Kirk lived
and died the values of free speech, citizenship, the rule
of law, and the patriotic devotion and love of God.
Charlie was the best of America, and the monster who
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attacked him was attacking our whole country. An assassin tried
to silence him with a bullet, but he failed, because
together we will ensure that his voice, his message, and
his legacy will live on for countless generations to come. Today,
because of this heinous act, Charlie's voice has become bigger
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and grander than ever before, and it's not even close.
May God bless his memory, May God watch over his family,
and may God bless the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Thank you. In just a moment, we will open the
phone lines. Let me say what type of call we
want before we open the phone line, so that we're clear.
Number of people rightfully so angry. We should do back
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what has been done to which I say, if you
were the overlord, say I'll just make up a name
out of the blue, George Soro intending to cause a
civil war in the United States in twenty twenty five.
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You could fire first the first round, but it would
be the choice of others whether a return Volley was placed.
Is my opinion that to do that would be exactly
the wrong position, was invading Iraq some way of making
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up for nine to eleven, which is today.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Then it cost a lot of lives of a lot
of good men, and in our anger, in our spastic
knee jerk response, we allowed George W. Bush's warmongering cabinet
to drag this country into a war with no end
Afghanistan next. And it wasn't until Trump extricated us from
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that did we win. It felt good, killed some people,
but did we win? Now? There's a lot of ink
spilled and energy spent on who the shooter was, what
the conspiracy was, what happened at this point, that's not
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what we're going to do. And if if you want
to know who the left is, just go look at
what they're saying. But I'm not going to keep giving
that to you. What is there to gain. I still
don't understand why people are shocked. Of course they said
those things on CNN. Of course they said this Bible,
they said this thing. Of course they did. That's who
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they are. Did you just figure that out? Are you
the person now telling me I'm awake? Now? They have
awakened a sleeping giant. Why in the f were you asleep?
So if Charlie Kirk is not murdered, you're still over
in your slumber. Well, I didn't go to sleep. This
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doesn't shock me, and it shouldn't have shocked you, and
it will only shock you as a as a frenzied
outburst of emotion until a few weeks later, until you
get back into your regular routine. We're gonna talk about
what Charlie Kirk did that was valuable and important in
your lives. Coming up, we'll be taking your calls and
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sharing your stories related to advocacy and activism changing this
country for the better in just a moment. A couple
days ago. A few days ago, I had a fellow
on named Fraser. Was it Don Fraser? Yeah? And we
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talked about Texas history and why Texas history is important.
As a friend of mine said, the fact that we've
taught Texas history to our children until now is one
of the reasons that Texas remains such a special place.
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Other states don't teach their proud history and why they
should be proud and what makes them unique. We are
one of fifty states, but there's nothing like a Texan.
You can travel anywhere in the world and they'll tell you, oh,
so you're a Texan. It's not the same in Missouri
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or Kansas, or Idaho, or Nebraska or South Carolina. Texans
have a pride about ourselves and a knowledge of our
history and our unique journey in battles and sacrifices glories.
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So the vote was up, and it was time to decide.
Are we going to teach Texas history as you and
I learned it as a unique, special, stand alone heritage
of this state and our people, or are we going
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to dilute that into US history and to.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
The extent that Texas ever pops up, well, we'll make
sure we'll say that was Texas over there in Texas,
using your tax dollars in your state.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
The state Board of Education voted and it went the
wrong way. There's a fellow named Will Hickman. Best I
can tell, Will Hickman's always wanted to be an elected official.
He just hadn't figured out what it was. That's like
George P. Bush, Oh, I'm gonna get elected or something.
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I just hadn't decided what it was yet. So I
guess the state Board of Education was a stepping zone.
He'd run for that and get elected and then maybe
you know, now that he had a position and people's
attention and maybe a little higher profile, he could look
from there and survey where he wanted to pop next. Well,
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he'll never hold another office in this state because as
a member of the state Board of Education he has
voted down. He was the deciding vote to destroy the
teaching of Texas history as we have since I was
a child, and since my parents were children, our unique
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and special history that makes this state great. Maybe they'll
fly him to a national conference and he'll get to
join the group. Maybe maybe that'll be the progressive perspective
or a supposed Republican, but will help heickman, don't try
the good old boy wearing your boots and blue jeans
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cowboy hat bit ever again, because I will make sure
that every and by the way, I'm not the only one,
because I heard from a lot of people who are
very angry over this. Now back to the subject and
that too. On nine to eleven, Sacrifice and loss, suffering
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the end of our earthly life, Charlie Kirk did some
amazing things in such a short life. There's a tweet
out there that he tweeted Glenn Beck when he was
seventeen years old, and he said he goes around to
high schools and talks about the debt and the deficit,
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fighting for liberty. Seventeen years old. He would go on
just a few short years later to found Turning Point USA.
In the meantime, his journey was not interrupted by college studies.
He spent a minute at a community college and like
my friend Jesse, Kelly determined that really wasn't the thing
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for him. So he would begin using the talents God
gave him to fight for the kind of nation we
want to be, to teach, to engage, to write, to speak,
and he turned out to have an incredible set of talents. Incredible.
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Everybody wants to compare influencers or talkers or you know
who's better. That's not necessary. You don't need a bunch
of catchers or shortstops or just pictures. You need a
broad array of people who talk to different audiences and
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connect with different audiences and do different things and they
can all peacefully coexist. It's this desperate desire for one
to be the best or better than that. What Charlie
did better than anyone was talk to young people, engage
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young people. Both of my boys yesterday, shortly after all
this happened, sent me messages, Hey, Dad, thinking about you,
this is horrible, thinking about our country's want you know
we love you. And it was such a mature thing
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to say, and I thought to myself, this is very
much on their radar. This is what Crockett is talking
about at high school, this is what Michael is talking
about at college, This is what people are talking about
on university campuses. Folks were coming out for prayer. Charlie
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Kirk was assassinated in front of three thousand college students.
Do you know how many people who do what I do?
Office holders, talkers, rioters, fox personnel. Do you know how
few could draw three thousand people to a college campus.
There's comedians at the very top of their game that
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couldn't draw ten percent of that. You talk about changing
our country with words and ideas, winning hearts and minds.
He was out doing it as sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't tell where I'm going to be. I don't
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go out to engage people face to face, but it
needs to be done, and he was doing it. You
talk about a legacy. Wow, that's a legacy. You will
sleep the assassination third the noon hour mountain time. So
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middle of the afternoon, I was taking a break, smoking
a cigar, visiting with a buddy of mine, and all
of a sudden it came through and we swung into
action that everything we were planning on and talking about
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in the evening would need to be delayed or put
away because this was going to be our focus. And
so I started reading, catching up, talking to different people,
bouncing ideas with other people that we're all mutual friends with,
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including some folks that were inside his organization, and many
of them did not have any better information than the
outside because basically, there's there's the family and the people
right around him, there's everybody else waiting on information, and
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it's there was There were there were reports that he
had passed, and there were reports that he was recovering.
There were reports that the shooter had been caught and
reports that he hadn't. And you know, the truth now,
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my understanding is that there is a suspect. There was
a fellow who was arrested on site yesterday who we're
told is not a suspect or even at this point
a person of interest, but sure was behaving weirdly, which
I guess that happens. People are nervous. There's another fellow
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arrested in the evening, Well, that's going to be him.
Now we're told it's not. You can get the information
on where they are with the investigation to find the assassin.
They do believe he fled, blended in with the crowd,
and made his way through the neighborhood around they're not
releasing his picture, and that makes me very uncomfortable. That
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makes me uncomfortable because you sometimes don't release a picture
because you think, well, we don't want the person to
know that we know who did it. Right, when you've
got a serial killer out there, we want him to
think we want them to be relaxed. This guy knows,
you know he did it. There's no doubt about that,
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So why wouldn't you release the picture. There are a
couple of things I can think of, but I want
to talk about not another shooting. I don't like to
talk about the shootings. It's a whole cottage industry. Media
ratings are never higher than when there's a shooting. Period.
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Give me one more detail, Well, nobody has any details,
so they just fill and then they provide as fact
that someone has reported. Oh, here it is, here, it is,
this is what happened. It's being reported that. Well sometimes
the person, often the person reporting, is just going by
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what somebody told him, and then when you dig into it,
that person who told him had a gut feeling, well
that's not true. But then it gets reported that it
was reported, and now that's a reporting. So you get
a few chains down the link and people go, oh,
well Fox is reporting, it gotta be true, and it
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ends up it's not. But in the midst of all
the madness, I'm reading everything I can. Our whole team
is reading, We're sharing things that we're finding out, seeing hearing.
I'm wearing the phone out and I see a post
by John Rocker, used to be a baseball pitcher. I
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always like Rocker because he's a little bit crazy. And
when Rocker ended up in New York, he talked about
being on the subway there and basically he described the
scene that happened in North Carolina the other day of
Irena Krutzka being murdered by some crazy, black, homeless nut job,
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vile racist, and he described that that's what it looked like.
That's what New York subway system was. And they canceled
him because you can't have somebody saying what everyone knows
to be true. It's very upsetting, but to pretend it's
not happening and not say it. Well, Rocker went on
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to be a guy I think of interest in that
he's a very independent thinker, and he speaks about things
that a lot of people at home but when they
hear his name, they go, oh, he is a bad guy.
But I don't think he is a bad guy. Anyway.
I met him a few years ago at the in
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Cooperstown and I went up and said, hey, John Rocker,
love what you do, loved watching you play baseball. I
think you're a fascinating cat. And told him my name,
and he said on the radio, yeah, I listened to you.
And so we had a good we had a good
little mutual fandom going. But he posted yesterday in the
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midst of all the nonsense when everybody's angry and lashing
out and talking tough of what they're gonna do, and
they don't even own a gun, but I love, Oh
my god, I'm a gun. Now I'm mad. Are you
all right, well, strap up, let's go, let's let's send
you into battle. Oh wow, and not right now, not
right now, because I'm awake right now. You were awake.
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You weren't awake ten minutes for what You weren't awake
when they shot the president. You're somehow shocked by everything. Well,
I'm just mad at that people on seeing in or
not being nice you expected them to. What world are
you living? How is any of this surprising to anyone?
That's the thing that blows my mind. People will oh
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my god, you would know. None of what is happening
surprises me, And I'm surprised it surprises you. I'm surprised
you didn't see this coming. They shot the president. They
shot the president a year ago. Then after that they
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tried to kill him again. They raided his wife's panty drawers,
guns drawn, with authority to kill. They prosecuted him in Atlanta,
Fat Fanny Jack Smith the best they had, Big Tish,
the Attorney General of New York. They threw resources in him.
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You can They arrested that man, Ejeen Carrol. Ejen Carol
claimed he raped her multiple times, all the while admitting
to her friends it wasn't true, and saying how much
money she was going to get out of him. They
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required four hundred million dollars be put up and catch
Nobody has that sorrows doesn't have that, not in cash?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I have to keep going? How many people they arrested
on January sixth? They killed Ashley Babbitt. If you woke
up from yesterday and go back to sleep, you got narcolepsy.
If you needed yesterday to wake you up, there's no
hope for you. You should have been a wake up.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Learn doing it big on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We're all going to die, not at thirty one, we hope,
especially not with all the good work Charlie Kirk was doing.
But the work of Charlie Kirk, we'll see an explosion
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of interest because of this. What Rocker said, which I
thought was the wisest thing of anybody who was tweeting
on the issue yesterday, posting anywhere else, he said they
killed him when all he wanted to do was talk
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about things. We'll be playing some audio later and there's
a line where someone says, you shouldn't be doing these talks.
These talks are very upsetting. They're very toxic. They're very upsetting.
He said, when you stop talking, that's when you have
civil war. Very wise for such a young man, very
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wise for such a young man. He didn't humiliate people
humiliating themselves. They exposed the fact that they're angry but
don't know what they're talking about. And there's a lot
of that. People are upset that young people were cheering yesterday,
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that on college, on high school campuses or online, young
people were cheering. Have you spent any time around young people. Honestly,
they will wail and teeth gnash over the death of
some rapper who had the hot song last week that
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they didn't know anything about. That he's died for the
cause when he got shot up, you know, robing a
liquor store. That's why we didn't let people vote till
they were twenty one for a long time. I am
not on the young people or the greatest train. Young
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people are largely stupid. It's an outlier when they're not
the fact that Charlie started all this at seventeen is amazing,
because most people at seventeen are still eating their buggers
and living off their parents and running around spouting off
whatever they can to see how people react to that.
I am not enamored. What made Charlie special was that
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he managed to engage young people who were willing to
think about what it is about America that makes it
special and making sure we're continuing that because when you
don't watch what you put in the oven, it burns.
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And that's what he was doing in a way that
connected with young people, and that is so hard to do,
and he didn't do it with anger or vitriol or
The important part of why he must be demonized is
it's important to say, your opinion with which I disagree,
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your opinion is violence. Your opinion is killing me, and
therefore you can be killed. Your opinion is violence, and
therefore anything can happen to you and should happen to you.
Here's the call to arms that it happened to you
because your opinion is the same thing as dropping a
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nuclear bomb, dropping in atomach bomb. Your opinion is no
different than beating someone to death because your opinion is
upsetting to me. When you can establish that someone's differing
opinion is the equivalent of bashing you in the head
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with a bat. Once you can establish that, yes, we
understand that that's the case. You have now authorized them
to turn and bash the opinion giver in the head
with a stick, because they're the same. This is why
it's very important for you to understand that your words
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are so hurtful, that they're harmful, because once they establish
that the game is over, checkmate, you've lost. And that's
why it's so important. Silence is violence. That's why it's
so important. That's why emotions must be elevated. Emotions are
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more important than physical health, are actual harm to your body.
Emotions are everything, and you'll never take away their emotions.
That's one thing you can't do. You can argue facts,
you can share your perspective, ninety nine percent of Americans
can share your perspective. But their opinion, their feelings, their
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emotions are so valid and valuable that you will never
stop them. And the fact that you've hurt them makes
you awful. You must be destroyed, your career, your life,
your details, revealed, every You must be destroyed for the
great harm you've done to them, all the while normalizing
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violence like we saw yesterday, murder, assassination. It's a long game.
If you woke up yesterday in a slumber and where
all of a sudden, shocked Charlie Kirk was killed, and
god forbid you saw the video, because it's awful if
that happened to you, and last night you were him.
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I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know
what I'm gonna do. I'm so upset. I'm so upset.
It's okay to be upset. Just please don't tell me
you're shocked or you don't understand. And you didn't need
to know what the names of the people on the
networks were who were going to say he deserved it.
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This is what happens FAFO. So Matthew, who was supposedly
a Republican in the Bush administration, you're starting to see
a lot of how those people turned out, and then
ran for lieutenant governor, was going to run against Ted Cruz,
this guy who's a pointy head liberal DC guy who
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was part of the Bush administration. There's a lot of
these guys the country club set, who's very upset that
you Ruffians entered his party. So he said, I'd rather
hang out with the Democrats than y'all. I don't like y'all.
Y'all have dirt under your nails. That guy was the
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one who put his name on He filled in the blank.
I'll be the one who says the horrible things. But
you knew it was going to happen. The reason I
make this point is in the midst of these deep
emotions and anger and frustration and all of that, make
a decision that you understand what in the hell's going on,
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and you stop thinking that there's a shooting over here
and there's a stabbing over there. There's a complete and
utter takeover of our country. It's not limited to Charlie
Kirk being massacred. That's not the limitation. Those people are
who they are. You don't need to watch them to
know who they are. I can tell you I can
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take five minutes and take their opinion on everything and
what they're going to do in every situation. They did
this when Rush died, and I hope they do it
when I die, because there's the sign you made a difference.
If you die and the left doesn't rejoice, did you
really make a difference.
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Very Show.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Is on the air, the report that Charlie has died,
that he's dead.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
At the age of thirty one, which he would have
to be if that video is real. There's no way
he survived that. Only good thing is it had to
have happened quickly.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Charlie inspired millions, and tonight all who knew him and
loved him are united in shock and horror. Charlie was
a patriot who devoted his life to the cause of
open debate and the country that he loved so much,
the United States of America. He fought for liberty, democracy, justice,
and the American people. He's a martyr for truth and freedom.
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Charlie was also a man of deep, deep faith, and
we take comfort in the knowledge that he is now
at peace with God in heaven.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So close your.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Eyes, you can't close your eyes. It's all right.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't know no love songs, and I can't sing
the blues in love.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But I can sing in a song, and you can
sing all when I'm gone. At the core of the left,
at the core of a liberal is someone that would
use the sword if they have.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
They are very violent people at their court.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
They always have it. They can't debate, they can't have conversation,
resort to these tactics. They're gonna do everything they possibly
can to try to murder this movement because they can't
beat us, so they're gonna try to take weapons.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
How do you want to be remembered? If I die,
everything just goes away. How would you if you could
be associated with one thing, how would you want to
be remembered.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I want to be I want to be remembered for
for courage, for my faith.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
That would be the most important. The most important thing
is so close you.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Can't close your eyes. It's all right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I don't know no love songs, and I can't sing.
President Trump has ordered flags flown at half staff through
Sunday to mourn Charlie Kirk. He had the following to
say about him.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
To my great fellow Americans, I am filled with grief
and anger at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk or
a college campus in Utah. Charlie inspired means, and tonight,
all who knew him and loved him are united in
shock and horror. Charlie was a patriot who devoted his
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life to the cause of open debate and the country
that he loved so much, the United States of America.
He fought for liberty, democracy, justice, and the American people.
He's a martyr for truth and freedom, and there has
never been anyone who was so respected by youth. Charlie
was also a man of deep, deep faith, and we
(03:34):
take comfort in the knowledge that he is now at
peace with God in heaven. Our prayers are with his wife, Erica,
the two young beloved children, and his entire family who
he loved more than anything in the world. We ask
God to watch over them in this terrible hour of
heartache and pain. This is a dark moment for America.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
President Trump went on to say.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
From the attack on my life in Butler, Pennsylvania last year,
which killed a husband and father, to the attacks on
ice agents, to the vicious murder of a healthcare executive
in the streets of New York, to the shooting of
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise and three others, radical of
political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken
(04:28):
too many lives. Tonight, they asked all Americans to commit
themselves to the American values for which Charlie Kirk lived
and died the values of free speech, citizenship, the rule
of law, and the patriotic devotion and love of God.
Charlie was the best of America, and the monster who
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attacked him was attacking our whole country. An assassin tried
to silence him with a bullet, but he failed, because
together we will ensure that his voice, his message, and
his legacy will live on for countless generations to come. Today,
because of this heinous act, Charlie's voice has become bigger
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and grander than ever before, and it's not even close.
May God bless his memory, May God watch over his family,
and may God bless the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Thank you. In just a moment, we will open the
phone lines. Let me say what type of call we
want before we open the phone line, so that we're clear.
Number of people rightfully so angry. We should do back
(05:46):
what has been done to which I say, if you
were the overlord, say I'll just make up a name
out of the blue, George Soro intending to cause a
civil war in the United States in twenty twenty five.
(06:07):
You could fire first the first round, but it would
be the choice of others whether a return Volley was placed.
Is my opinion that to do that would be exactly
the wrong position, was invading Iraq some way of making
(06:32):
up for nine to eleven, which is today.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Then it cost a lot of lives of a lot
of good men, and in our anger, in our spastic
knee jerk response, we allowed George W. Bush's warmongering cabinet
to drag this country into a war with no end
Afghanistan next. And it wasn't until Trump extricated us from
(07:01):
that did we win. It felt good, killed some people,
but did we win? Now? There's a lot of ink
spilled and energy spent on who the shooter was, what
the conspiracy was, what happened at this point, that's not
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what we're going to do. And if if you want
to know who the left is, just go look at
what they're saying. But I'm not going to keep giving
that to you. What is there to gain. I still
don't understand why people are shocked. Of course they said
those things on CNN. Of course they said this Bible,
they said this thing. Of course they did. That's who
(07:46):
they are. Did you just figure that out? Are you
the person now telling me I'm awake? Now? They have
awakened a sleeping giant. Why in the f were you asleep?
So if Charlie Kirk is not murdered, you're still over
in your slumber. Well, I didn't go to sleep. This
(08:07):
doesn't shock me, and it shouldn't have shocked you, and
it will only shock you as a as a frenzied
outburst of emotion until a few weeks later, until you
get back into your regular routine. We're gonna talk about
what Charlie Kirk did that was valuable and important in
your lives. Coming up, we'll be taking your calls and
(08:31):
sharing your stories related to advocacy and activism changing this
country for the better in just a moment. A couple
days ago. A few days ago, I had a fellow
on named Fraser. Was it Don Fraser? Yeah? And we
(08:54):
talked about Texas history and why Texas history is important.
As a friend of mine said, the fact that we've
taught Texas history to our children until now is one
of the reasons that Texas remains such a special place.
(09:20):
Other states don't teach their proud history and why they
should be proud and what makes them unique. We are
one of fifty states, but there's nothing like a Texan.
You can travel anywhere in the world and they'll tell you, oh,
so you're a Texan. It's not the same in Missouri
(09:43):
or Kansas, or Idaho, or Nebraska or South Carolina. Texans
have a pride about ourselves and a knowledge of our
history and our unique journey in battles and sacrifices glories.
(10:06):
So the vote was up, and it was time to decide.
Are we going to teach Texas history as you and
I learned it as a unique, special, stand alone heritage
of this state and our people, or are we going
(10:31):
to dilute that into US history and to.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
The extent that Texas ever pops up, well, we'll make
sure we'll say that was Texas over there in Texas,
using your tax dollars in your state.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
The state Board of Education voted and it went the
wrong way. There's a fellow named Will Hickman. Best I
can tell, Will Hickman's always wanted to be an elected official.
He just hadn't figured out what it was. That's like
George P. Bush, Oh, I'm gonna get elected or something.
(11:08):
I just hadn't decided what it was yet. So I
guess the state Board of Education was a stepping zone.
He'd run for that and get elected and then maybe
you know, now that he had a position and people's
attention and maybe a little higher profile, he could look
from there and survey where he wanted to pop next. Well,
(11:28):
he'll never hold another office in this state because as
a member of the state Board of Education he has
voted down. He was the deciding vote to destroy the
teaching of Texas history as we have since I was
a child, and since my parents were children, our unique
(11:49):
and special history that makes this state great. Maybe they'll
fly him to a national conference and he'll get to
join the group. Maybe maybe that'll be the progressive perspective
or a supposed Republican, but will help heickman, don't try
the good old boy wearing your boots and blue jeans
(12:13):
cowboy hat bit ever again, because I will make sure
that every and by the way, I'm not the only one,
because I heard from a lot of people who are
very angry over this. Now back to the subject and
that too. On nine to eleven, Sacrifice and loss, suffering
(12:35):
the end of our earthly life, Charlie Kirk did some
amazing things in such a short life. There's a tweet
out there that he tweeted Glenn Beck when he was
seventeen years old, and he said he goes around to
high schools and talks about the debt and the deficit,
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fighting for liberty. Seventeen years old. He would go on
just a few short years later to found Turning Point USA.
In the meantime, his journey was not interrupted by college studies.
He spent a minute at a community college and like
my friend Jesse, Kelly determined that really wasn't the thing
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for him. So he would begin using the talents God
gave him to fight for the kind of nation we
want to be, to teach, to engage, to write, to speak,
and he turned out to have an incredible set of talents. Incredible.
(13:51):
Everybody wants to compare influencers or talkers or you know
who's better. That's not necessary. You don't need a bunch
of catchers or shortstops or just pictures. You need a
broad array of people who talk to different audiences and
(14:15):
connect with different audiences and do different things and they
can all peacefully coexist. It's this desperate desire for one
to be the best or better than that. What Charlie
did better than anyone was talk to young people, engage
(14:36):
young people. Both of my boys yesterday, shortly after all
this happened, sent me messages, Hey, Dad, thinking about you,
this is horrible, thinking about our country's want you know
we love you. And it was such a mature thing
(15:02):
to say, and I thought to myself, this is very
much on their radar. This is what Crockett is talking
about at high school, this is what Michael is talking
about at college, This is what people are talking about
on university campuses. Folks were coming out for prayer. Charlie
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Kirk was assassinated in front of three thousand college students.
Do you know how many people who do what I do?
Office holders, talkers, rioters, fox personnel. Do you know how
few could draw three thousand people to a college campus.
There's comedians at the very top of their game that
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couldn't draw ten percent of that. You talk about changing
our country with words and ideas, winning hearts and minds.
He was out doing it as sure as hell wouldn't.
I don't tell where I'm going to be. I don't
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go out to engage people face to face, but it
needs to be done, and he was doing it. You
talk about a legacy. Wow, that's a legacy. You will
sleep the assassination third the noon hour mountain time. So
(16:41):
middle of the afternoon, I was taking a break, smoking
a cigar, visiting with a buddy of mine, and all
of a sudden it came through and we swung into
action that everything we were planning on and talking about
(17:01):
in the evening would need to be delayed or put
away because this was going to be our focus. And
so I started reading, catching up, talking to different people,
bouncing ideas with other people that we're all mutual friends with,
(17:24):
including some folks that were inside his organization, and many
of them did not have any better information than the
outside because basically, there's there's the family and the people
right around him, there's everybody else waiting on information, and
(17:45):
it's there was There were there were reports that he
had passed, and there were reports that he was recovering.
There were reports that the shooter had been caught and
reports that he hadn't. And you know, the truth now,
(18:05):
my understanding is that there is a suspect. There was
a fellow who was arrested on site yesterday who we're
told is not a suspect or even at this point
a person of interest, but sure was behaving weirdly, which
I guess that happens. People are nervous. There's another fellow
(18:25):
arrested in the evening, Well, that's going to be him.
Now we're told it's not. You can get the information
on where they are with the investigation to find the assassin.
They do believe he fled, blended in with the crowd,
and made his way through the neighborhood around they're not
releasing his picture, and that makes me very uncomfortable. That
(18:51):
makes me uncomfortable because you sometimes don't release a picture
because you think, well, we don't want the person to
know that we know who did it. Right, when you've
got a serial killer out there, we want him to
think we want them to be relaxed. This guy knows,
you know he did it. There's no doubt about that,
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So why wouldn't you release the picture. There are a
couple of things I can think of, but I want
to talk about not another shooting. I don't like to
talk about the shootings. It's a whole cottage industry. Media
ratings are never higher than when there's a shooting. Period.
(19:33):
Give me one more detail, Well, nobody has any details,
so they just fill and then they provide as fact
that someone has reported. Oh, here it is, here, it is,
this is what happened. It's being reported that. Well sometimes
the person, often the person reporting, is just going by
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what somebody told him, and then when you dig into it,
that person who told him had a gut feeling, well
that's not true. But then it gets reported that it
was reported, and now that's a reporting. So you get
a few chains down the link and people go, oh,
well Fox is reporting, it gotta be true, and it
(20:13):
ends up it's not. But in the midst of all
the madness, I'm reading everything I can. Our whole team
is reading, We're sharing things that we're finding out, seeing hearing.
I'm wearing the phone out and I see a post
by John Rocker, used to be a baseball pitcher. I
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always like Rocker because he's a little bit crazy. And
when Rocker ended up in New York, he talked about
being on the subway there and basically he described the
scene that happened in North Carolina the other day of
Irena Krutzka being murdered by some crazy, black, homeless nut job,
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vile racist, and he described that that's what it looked like.
That's what New York subway system was. And they canceled
him because you can't have somebody saying what everyone knows
to be true. It's very upsetting, but to pretend it's
not happening and not say it. Well, Rocker went on
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to be a guy I think of interest in that
he's a very independent thinker, and he speaks about things
that a lot of people at home but when they
hear his name, they go, oh, he is a bad guy.
But I don't think he is a bad guy. Anyway.
I met him a few years ago at the in
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Cooperstown and I went up and said, hey, John Rocker,
love what you do, loved watching you play baseball. I
think you're a fascinating cat. And told him my name,
and he said on the radio, yeah, I listened to you.
And so we had a good we had a good
little mutual fandom going. But he posted yesterday in the
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midst of all the nonsense when everybody's angry and lashing
out and talking tough of what they're gonna do, and
they don't even own a gun, but I love, Oh
my god, I'm a gun. Now I'm mad. Are you
all right, well, strap up, let's go, let's let's send
you into battle. Oh wow, and not right now, not
right now, because I'm awake right now. You were awake.
(22:28):
You weren't awake ten minutes for what You weren't awake
when they shot the president. You're somehow shocked by everything. Well,
I'm just mad at that people on seeing in or
not being nice you expected them to. What world are
you living? How is any of this surprising to anyone?
That's the thing that blows my mind. People will oh
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my god, you would know. None of what is happening
surprises me, And I'm surprised it surprises you. I'm surprised
you didn't see this coming. They shot the president. They
shot the president a year ago. Then after that they
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tried to kill him again. They raided his wife's panty drawers,
guns drawn, with authority to kill. They prosecuted him in Atlanta,
Fat Fanny Jack Smith the best they had, Big Tish,
the Attorney General of New York. They threw resources in him.
(23:35):
You can They arrested that man, Ejeen Carrol. Ejen Carol
claimed he raped her multiple times, all the while admitting
to her friends it wasn't true, and saying how much
money she was going to get out of him. They
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required four hundred million dollars be put up and catch
Nobody has that sorrows doesn't have that, not in cash?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Do you?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I have to keep going? How many people they arrested
on January sixth? They killed Ashley Babbitt. If you woke
up from yesterday and go back to sleep, you got narcolepsy.
If you needed yesterday to wake you up, there's no
hope for you. You should have been a wake up.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Learn doing it big on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We're all going to die, not at thirty one, we hope,
especially not with all the good work Charlie Kirk was doing.
But the work of Charlie Kirk, we'll see an explosion
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of interest because of this. What Rocker said, which I
thought was the wisest thing of anybody who was tweeting
on the issue yesterday, posting anywhere else, he said they
killed him when all he wanted to do was talk
(25:20):
about things. We'll be playing some audio later and there's
a line where someone says, you shouldn't be doing these talks.
These talks are very upsetting. They're very toxic. They're very upsetting.
He said, when you stop talking, that's when you have
civil war. Very wise for such a young man, very
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wise for such a young man. He didn't humiliate people
humiliating themselves. They exposed the fact that they're angry but
don't know what they're talking about. And there's a lot
of that. People are upset that young people were cheering yesterday,
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that on college, on high school campuses or online, young
people were cheering. Have you spent any time around young people. Honestly,
they will wail and teeth gnash over the death of
some rapper who had the hot song last week that
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they didn't know anything about. That he's died for the
cause when he got shot up, you know, robing a
liquor store. That's why we didn't let people vote till
they were twenty one for a long time. I am
not on the young people or the greatest train. Young
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people are largely stupid. It's an outlier when they're not
the fact that Charlie started all this at seventeen is amazing,
because most people at seventeen are still eating their buggers
and living off their parents and running around spouting off
whatever they can to see how people react to that.
I am not enamored. What made Charlie special was that
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he managed to engage young people who were willing to
think about what it is about America that makes it
special and making sure we're continuing that because when you
don't watch what you put in the oven, it burns.
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And that's what he was doing in a way that
connected with young people, and that is so hard to do,
and he didn't do it with anger or vitriol or
The important part of why he must be demonized is
it's important to say, your opinion with which I disagree,
(27:58):
your opinion is violence. Your opinion is killing me, and
therefore you can be killed. Your opinion is violence, and
therefore anything can happen to you and should happen to you.
Here's the call to arms that it happened to you
because your opinion is the same thing as dropping a
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nuclear bomb, dropping in atomach bomb. Your opinion is no
different than beating someone to death because your opinion is
upsetting to me. When you can establish that someone's differing
opinion is the equivalent of bashing you in the head
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with a bat. Once you can establish that, yes, we
understand that that's the case. You have now authorized them
to turn and bash the opinion giver in the head
with a stick, because they're the same. This is why
it's very important for you to understand that your words
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are so hurtful, that they're harmful, because once they establish
that the game is over, checkmate, you've lost. And that's
why it's so important. Silence is violence. That's why it's
so important. That's why emotions must be elevated. Emotions are
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more important than physical health, are actual harm to your body.
Emotions are everything, and you'll never take away their emotions.
That's one thing you can't do. You can argue facts,
you can share your perspective, ninety nine percent of Americans
can share your perspective. But their opinion, their feelings, their
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emotions are so valid and valuable that you will never
stop them. And the fact that you've hurt them makes
you awful. You must be destroyed, your career, your life,
your details, revealed, every You must be destroyed for the
great harm you've done to them, all the while normalizing
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violence like we saw yesterday, murder, assassination. It's a long game.
If you woke up yesterday in a slumber and where
all of a sudden, shocked Charlie Kirk was killed, and
god forbid you saw the video, because it's awful if
that happened to you, and last night you were him.
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I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know
what I'm gonna do. I'm so upset. I'm so upset.
It's okay to be upset. Just please don't tell me
you're shocked or you don't understand. And you didn't need
to know what the names of the people on the
networks were who were going to say he deserved it.
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This is what happens FAFO. So Matthew, who was supposedly
a Republican in the Bush administration, you're starting to see
a lot of how those people turned out, and then
ran for lieutenant governor, was going to run against Ted Cruz,
this guy who's a pointy head liberal DC guy who
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was part of the Bush administration. There's a lot of
these guys the country club set, who's very upset that
you Ruffians entered his party. So he said, I'd rather
hang out with the Democrats than y'all. I don't like y'all.
Y'all have dirt under your nails. That guy was the
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one who put his name on He filled in the blank.
I'll be the one who says the horrible things. But
you knew it was going to happen. The reason I
make this point is in the midst of these deep
emotions and anger and frustration and all of that, make
a decision that you understand what in the hell's going on,
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and you stop thinking that there's a shooting over here
and there's a stabbing over there. There's a complete and
utter takeover of our country. It's not limited to Charlie
Kirk being massacred. That's not the limitation. Those people are
who they are. You don't need to watch them to
know who they are. I can tell you I can
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take five minutes and take their opinion on everything and
what they're going to do in every situation. They did
this when Rush died, and I hope they do it
when I die, because there's the sign you made a difference.
If you die and the left doesn't rejoice, did you
really make a difference.
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