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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Good morning, Michael Hello, Hello are you there? Good morning?
You're Michael Berry. How you learned? Did I read it tomorrow? Money?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yes, listen to this.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Good morning, Texas, morning, your car, Good morning Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
My mom is on. We're happy to be here to
talk about everything.
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Good morning.
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We're not wearing dan. Good morning Texes, Good morning Texas.
Good morning, Texcess, Good.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Morning, week go.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Let's speak gone, damn.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Good morning. We're going to open the phone lines earlier
than usual today. The teacher says to little girl, if
I give you four black cats on Monday day and
I give you two white cats on Tuesday on Wednesday,
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how many cats do you have? And the little girl
says seven. And she says, but four plus two is six.
You do only have six cats? And she said, we
have one at home. We have one at home. Make seven?
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How does the farmer call his sheep? Hey, you ram on,
what do you call a wreath made of one hundred
dollar bills? A wreath of Franklin's. My coworker thought he
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was a light bulb, so my boss sent him home.
I also went home. I can't work in the dark. Well,
we've got Dan Patrick and Greg Abbott in a battle
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for who can propose the biggest property tax cut. Exactly.
It's it's getting ridiculous. Not because I'm opposed to cutting
property taxes, but what what's happening? Is it being election time?
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We start the so Greg Abbott starts with the we're
gonna eliminate property taxes, and then they kind of crawfished
a little bit, said, well, we're gonna eminate property taxes
on homesteads. Okay, all right, and now Dan Patrick, let
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me see if I have his proposal here. Yes, yes, yes,
he wants to increase the homestead exemption for school property taxes. Again. Okay,
all right, that's good. Here is my question. Everyone loves
to promise to cut property taxes, which is mostly how
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we find how we fund our state government. But no
one ever proposes cutting spending. The reason is everyone hates
paying property taxes, but the people on whom you spend
the money like receiving the money. It's just a redistribution.
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That's what taxes is and always has been. So you're
taking the money from a homeowner and then you're giving
it to somebody, either directly welfare, food stamps, contracts, or
indirectly on things they will use and enjoy. Nobody has
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been able to convince me that they care anything about
cutting spending. Now you could argue, well, it's all at
the local level. It's all the school boards. Okay, call
them out. A lot of these school boards that are increasing,
these spending is increasing. The spending are in rural and
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suburban districts, and plenty of them are Republican or pretend
to be. Fact is there's not an increase in the
cost of delivering education commensurate with the expenditure on the
school districts. I don't conflate a school district and an
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institution that delivers educational services. And the reason for that
is you don't need anything at the school other than
the old one room schoolhouse. You don't need all the
rest of it. You can build it, you can dress
it up, you can build more of it, but you
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don't need it. So why not have the people who
use it pay for it? But then again, a society
who taxes all of the residents to pay for a
sports stadium that only the sports fans go to can
get real comfortable with that, real fast, can't they. So
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the idea has always been, we all pay for the schools,
even if we don't ever have kids, because it's a
common good. We want our people to be educated. But
then what happens when the people who end up in
the supposed education process it's a business now, it's nothing
educational about it. What happens when those people begin their
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measuring contest. They're pageant based on how much money they
can raise. What happens when people start getting into education,
which was supposed to be a public service, to make
more money, And once they got there, then they want
everybody held hostage that they need to get paid more money.
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But they went into the business knowing the pay was poor,
and at one point it was it's not any longer.
You'll never hear a teacher say they make good money,
but they do hour for hour. It's not to say
teachers aren't wonderful people, of course, not. Just what they
do isn't important. Of course would they do it if
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they didn't make as much as they do? How many
Republicans paid for their pay increases and all the other
increases in expenditures and are now talking about eliminating property
taxes because it's election time now? I think this year
I'm not going to go along. You can promise whatever
he is taken from us far too soon. On this
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day in two thousand and seven, Led Zeppelin played a
one off show at the O two Arena in London,
the biggest reunion in rock history. John Bonham's son Jason,
played drums at the show, which was held by critics
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and fans as triumphant. It was a raging debate among
our team this morning as to what would have been
the biggest reunion in history had it occurred, but it
didn't if the Beatles had gathered again before John Lennon died.
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For instance, there are lots of what ese ramon which
one is Led Zeppelin? Is he the one that sings?
Or is he the one that plays the guitar. Uh okay, okay,
yeah okay. Seven one three nine nine nine, one thousand.
He's one with the long hair in the real high
pitched voice that sings is this love? That's him with
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Tony Kataine on the on the Yeah, he's good, he's good,
He's got long hair him. That's led Zeppelin. I always wonder.
I wonder if Leed is short for as like Ledner
or something. Maybe his full name anyway, seven one three
nine nine nine one thousand seven one three nine nine
nine when I always wondered because I didn't know if
it was like van Halen or Santana, where you know
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the lead singer is not the one, Yeah, yeah, Jimmy
led Zeppelin or Robert Zeed, you know led Zep. I
didn't know which that was, like a full name or
or how that how that worked? Martha, good morning, How
are you, dear.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I've been missing you.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I've been missing you. You're ninety two. I need you
to call more often.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You have more interesting people than me, so.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Wanted to start my day with a happy tone and
see hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, you're very sweet. I had I had Mitch Little
on a few weeks ago. I know, you know, Mitch Little.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I'm so proud of him. He's gotten so many recognitions recently.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
You know, Ramon just told me that. Ramon told me
you just had a birthday.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
No, in September. I wrote you email because I couldn't
get on you weren't having phone calls that day.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh what did I respond?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yes, you read my email on that.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh okay, all right, I'm losing my memory. I'm fifty five, Martha.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh well, you've got a lot of catching up to do.
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
What's going on in your world?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Well, I've decorated my tree yesterday.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Oh that's nice. Yes, is there anything in particular that
you love to hang on there? Or put on there?
Or do this unique?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
All of my children and great grandchildren, all of the
things that they've made over the years, I sit and
look at them and I try to put them together
so that they notice that I've still kept kept them.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Oh that's so sweet. I guarantee you that means a
lot to them.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yes, they all want to see. Oh this one I
gave to you, grand all that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now, how many children do you have?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well? I have three, but I lost one of them
my daughter. So I raised her boys. And then so
I have twelve great grandchildren.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Twelve great grandchildren? How many grandchildren?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Six?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay, so you raised three of those?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
No, I raised two grandchildren. My daughter died. She had
two boys.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
How old was she when she died? Oh my? Oh my? Okay?
And how old were her boy?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Her boys went to Second Baptist. Also, that's how I
knew Mitch Mittle's and his mother. His mother was one
of my best friends.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh, I see, Okay, he's such a good fellow, he
really is.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He's going and when he was growing up, he said
he wanted to go to Harvard and be the president
of the United States. And I, He'm sorry, been to Harvard.
So he's on his way to the next one.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, he has. He is a very conscienable person. I
feel like I worry about people like him because I
know what he's going through and it can burn you out,
and it often does. But when you go to Austin
and you are a man of principle and conscience and
you actually care about the taxpayer and doing what's right
and just, and you find out that the process doesn't
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operate on that basis, and that that people have in
most cases compromised their principles. It can really grind you down.
A lot of people walk away from it. I am glad
to see that he's staying in there. You know, I
was worried he was going to run for Attorney General
because that race is so competitive, and I didn't want
him to run and no longer be a rep and
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no longer be in public service. But at the last
minute he chose not to, and I'm glad he did.
I think he's an important part of the state House.
There's a couple of them, Steve Toath here in North
Houston who's now running for Congress, and Mitch Little and
there are a few more. But you've got some really
good guys up there, and he's one of them.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yes, he's very steady, just keeps his eye right on
the ball and just keeps going right ahead, and names
always be like that.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I think he played ball for somebody, didn't he.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Well for a second Baptists, But I don't think he went.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
On to Oh okay, okay, I thought I saw a
picture of him in a uniform that might have been
You said he went to Harvard, So yeah, okay, Martha
Tell me what you've done so far this morning? What
time do you get up?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Well, like this, But I'm getting ready to feed my
cats and my little dog, and so then I just
don't move a whole lot until my physical therapist will
be here in a little while, and we do some
exercises and go outside and see. I'm a gardener, so
I like to see what all is growing out there
and how things have done with this weather.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
What are you worried about?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Not, oh, I'm not worried about anything.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
No, no, but is there do you have pones or
tulips or so?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I'm a butterfly person, and so I like to be
sure them that the pollinators are all blooming so that
they can feed. And of course most of them are
gone now because of the weather, but if anything is around,
it needs to be said. I'd like to be sure
that they're okay. But I have a son that's going
to India Friday and then to all Hong Kong on business.
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So I'm getting my friends to pray for him. And
it's a hard trip.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
So it's a long trip. My friend Chance McLean is
filming a client in India. He left was today when
he left yesterday. It was his first trip, and he
had a thousand questions and I finally just said, Chance,
I cannot prepare you. It's going to be such a
shock to your senses in every way, the cacophony of noise,
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the smells, the sounds, the sights, the crowds. I can't
possibly put it into words. You'll know what I'm saying
when you're being jostled on the streets, and yeah, you'll
know it. Martha, You're wonderful. It's so good to hear
from you, sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Just in here.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Listening to Michael Berry. I called him this little during
the break. If he did play ball or Harvard, he
played defensive lineman. I said, did you play all four years?
I did? Did you start? He said no, I did not.
I said, you wish right now that you had started,
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so that you could say that and get the credit
for it. He said, I would have killed for it.
Wasn't good enough. I said, well, you went to Harvard
on a football scholarship. You haven't had to have your
knees replaced. I'd call that a win. I would definitely
call that a win. I want you to think about something,
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because we're going to open the phone lines, but not yet.
I want you to think about this and formulate your thought.
Our team was talking during the break, which is why
they don't get any work done, because they're constantly circle
jerking opinions and questions in quizzing each other because this
is what we do all day. And Jim Mudd asked
the group, what is your most controversial music opinion that
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goes against popular opinion? Something that you truly believe, don't
call yet something that you truly believe and other people
and you know, conventional wisdom would disagree with that. Like
you know, very few members of the twenty seven Club
would be considered great today if they hadn't died young,
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or maybe Ringo Starr is a top five drummer. And
I think, what is this? This is Jim's list, John Bonham,
Neil Pert, Alex van Halen, Ringo Starr, and Ginger Baker
or Willie Willie Nelson's version of always on My Mind
is better than Elvis's or anyway, They've been going back
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and forth with some with some lists. But first I'm
going to ask you so keep that thought in the
back of your mind. We'll get to it later. I
have a friend named Rick Daring I grew up with,
and he's the one that beat my butt when we
were twelve, because he and I were catchers for our
for our rival teams that were the two top teams
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playing for the championship, and he was going to be
the catcher, starting catcher on the All Star team and
I wasn't. I was going to be the backup, which
meant I was going to have to play a position.
And I'm a catcher, so or was, and so I
was kind of sore over it. And he had been,
you know, kind of saying that he was a better
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catcher than me and mouthing off, which he was, And
so I decided to confront him, and I decided to
pull the Scott Freeland trick where I'm gonna punch him
first and get to get in and early, and then
I win and that'll be that. So I go up
to him and before the game, and we just have
our shin guards on and weever our mit, and I
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throw my mitt down and I walk up to him
and mouth off and I rare back and I hit
him with everything I've got on his jaw, and as
I do, I charge him and I hit him with
my shoulder and I knock him to the ground, and boy,
this is going great, swimmingly as they say. I proceed
to get about three more shots in on him and
it was just making him mad, and he spun me
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over and proceeded to whip my ass before my coach
could tackle him off of me. And we have laughed
about that over the years. I mean, we have had
so much fun with that because I love the guy.
He's one of my five favorite people from Orange. He's
created a company that after storms they go in and
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I think that they're public adjusters, and he started his
own firm and he travels all over the country basically
chasing storms because that's what their business does. Some of
you will remember Rick because his son was a sheriff's
deputy in Orange and he was he was running a
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call and he had a heart attack at like thirty
one years old and he didn't make it. And I've
always watched Rick, who's been very public about the grieving
process and being grateful. But before he was public, we
were texting about it and I was trying to say
something that would help him through it. And his faith
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was so strong and his h was so admirable that
I have drawn upon that when my own brother died,
when my mother died, and I really grew to admire
him on a different level from that. Well, Rick was
not the biggest guy, but he was the toughest guy,
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and he played middle linebacker for those Western Stark teams
in the mid eighties were the same year I went
from Western Stark where I started out to Orangefield. But
I still played ball with those guys baseball, and I
stayed friends with those guys for life. Jason Lingo, Slade Green,
Rick Deering, that whole group of guys. Anyway, there was
a longtime coach in Orange of the Western Stark Mustangs,
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which was a powerhouse football program. His name was Dan Hooks,
and I posted about him yesterday because he's passed away
at eighty seven, and I did not realize he'd been
at channel View before that, and several of you responded
that Dan Hooks had that Dan Hooks had been one
of them that had been their bus driver at channel View.
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Have been there, but I remember what he taught, what
whatever class he taught uh at at channel View, which
was before he went to Western Start. But Rick wrote
a tribute to Dan Hooks. He called him Dan Ray.
Rick's uncle, Cornell was would succeed him, I believe, as
I don't know if he was a direct successor, but
I believe was of the football team, and he was
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a catcher's coach, so he was our coach during the summers.
We would go there and they would work on work
with us all summer. And great guy, just a wonderful
The kind of respect these guys have in a small town,
you don't I don't know that that many coaches ever
have that kind of When Dan Hooks walked down the street,
that man was just respected and admired because of because
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of the role he had in shaping the lives of
young men. But anyway, Rick wrote, sad Day and Mustang Country.
That's Western Stark or the Mustangs. Coach Hooks was truly
one of a kind. As a young boy growing up
in Orange, Texas, as long as you lived below I ten,
all you ever dreamed about was wearing the silver hat.
I can vividly remember a Friday night light standing along
the fence line at the far end of the home bleachers,
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wearing my junior football jersey along with a one hundred
other little boys watching the Mustangs take the walk down
that white shell driveway from the fieldhouse to the stadium.
They were our heroes and they were let out by
Coach Hooks for thirty years. That rarely happens in this
day and age, and I have zero doubts that the
reason Western Stark has the highest winning percentage all time
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in Texas high school football history with at least five
hundred games played is because Coach Hooks is because of
Coach Hooks and his leadership. I've been lucky enough to
have the chance to let him know what he's done
for me over my life, what he's done for me
and my life. In our most recent visit, he told
me that he'd only ever had three employers channel view
isd Lamar University and as the leader of Mustang Country.
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In the coaching profession, that's unheard of, but it speaks
to one of the things that personifies Coach Hooks. Unfortunately,
another trait that has slowly eroded in our world. I've
shared before that one thing has always stuck in my
mind about Coach Hooks. He preached and preached that the
Mustangs played for four full quarters, not one, not two,
not three, but all four translation, don't give up, no
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matter the score, no matter the conditions, no matter what happens.
He'd often say, in that wonderful Southeast Texas vernacular, We're
going to play forty eight minutes of football. Hell, you
could hold your hand in a fire for that long
if you had to, Well, coach, you played them all,
and you leave a hell of a legacy. Go get
your rest with Michael Maryshaw. With Iron Stark, which I
did not graduate from. My graduating from Orangeville, I started
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at Western Stark had a legendary football coach and Dan Hooks.
Ramone was saying growing up in Texas City that I
held I knew who Western Stark was. My dad and
I would go to the state championship games as a
triple header and felt like Western Stark was in it
every year that a legendary football football coach in Hooks,
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Dan Ray, and they had a legendary baseball coach in
Ronnie Anderson, and that was such a special group of athletes.
It was. It was such a special sports program for
so long when I was growing up. Obviously I was
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a fan of professional sports, but my grandfather had driven
the bus for several local schools and My dad loved
high school sports, so between the two of them, we
went to a lot of Friday night lights and watched
a lot of football growing up. And it's still an
indulgence to sit and watch a high school football a
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well played high school football game. It is a treat
to this day. There's something special about it, especially as
you get to the end of a season, because you
got kids that are seniors that are not going to
ever get to suit up again, and they understand that,
and to watch them lay it all on the line.
You won't see that in the pros. Nobody's laying it
on the line. It's a business and you don't want
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to do too much or you might not get to
come back next year. And by the time they're ready
to retire in there, in that last little bit and
this is their last opportunity. Hell, they're so broken down
they don't want to lay it out there. But in
high school you see some kids, and they are kids
just absolutely humping it, playing with all their heart, and
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no matter how well the game is played, somebody's gonna
win and somebody's going to lose. And you see these
young men, I mean, testosterone levels over one thousand and
they're coming off the field and they're crying. You see,
the tears are streaming down, and it's just such an
intense emotion for these boys. If you listen to me
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reading Rick Dering's letter, they won the state championship. His
and my I didn't go there, but we were the
same year, sophomore year and junior year and didn't win it,
but went but didn't win it a senior year, which
he would have won three statesampionships that they had, which
would have been pretty darn and cool. But Ronnie Anderson
was a longtime baseball coach, and to put it into perspective,
Ronnie Anderson had been the history or English teacher, I
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think history teacher in baseball coach. When my mother was there.
My mother remembered him walking into the room. He had
found out in the hallway that John F. Kennedy had
been assassinated. So it must have been I guess during
it they were having the not parade or having the
drive through, so I guess that would have been about then.
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But anyway, she remembers coach Anderson walking into the room
and explaining and revealing that President Kennedy had died and
talking about what this meant for our country and where
we were, and these sorts of things. The other things
she remembered about him as a teacher slash coach is
that when the bell rang, the girls were to get
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up and leave, and it was not until the last
girl left the classroom that the boys were allowed to
get up and leave, which, if you remember when the
bell rang, you had stuff you wanted to do. Go
kiss your girlfriend, go meet up with your buddies. We
had between second and third period we had a ten
minute break, so it was normally only a five minute break.
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This is a little bit we'd a little bit school Orangefield,
but we had two hallways and then a connecting so
it made a horseshoe, and then the cafeteria off of that,
and near the cafeteria was a coke machine. It actually
said doctor Pepper, but I think of that as a
coke machine. And you would run down there, and I
think it was twenty five cents of the time. And
I remember when I was in a high school boy,
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we were big. Now I could run down during the
ten minute break and get myself doctor Pepper in the
middle of the day like a grown man. Oh my goodness,
like a grown man I was, and second period would
pop and I would run down there and there'd be
somebody in front of you, and they weren't they were
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trying to decide, Oh no, and they were little orange
fan turk. Just get something because you wanted to have
your full You know, you only had probably eight minutes
to consume your doctor Pepper because there was getting there
and getting back. And Miss Martin in her class would
sell eminems and the seals of the eminems. She was
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allowed to sell eminem's to any student, which she would
do during in between the classes, all day every day.
She made enough off of that to pay for our
debate trips, and we traveled all over the state off
of her little Eminem sales in between. And she was
that passionate. She was our debate coach. I loved Alice
Martin anyway. So but the real treat was if I
moved fast enough, I could go get my doctor Pepper
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and get down to Miss Martin's class, which was at
the end of the other hall, and get my emin
m's and date my doctor Pepper and my emin ms.
Because you just couldn't have enough sugar. You just couldn't
have enough sugar. Ed, you're only Michael Marry show. Go ahead,
Hey Mike, we'll.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Tell you I quick star. He used to officiate high
school football for a long time and we were doing
a playoff game West Oorne Stark and I don't remember
who they're playing, but we had a pretty controversial call
right at the end of the game, right at the
end of halftime, and all of a sudden, the coaches
come running on the field. It was kind of getting scary,
and coach Hook had a foot injury at the time.
He was in a golf cart. Well, he comes hauling
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button his golf cart all the way across the field
to grab my referee and he's like, look, y'all made
a bad call, and I understand it, but people, this
is West Orange Stark and we don't get bad call
and you need a police escort. We all leave tonight
and we just kind of looked at each other and say, hey,
we got one more half to go. What is he
trying to do to us? And that was like my
fondest memory because he was always a fireball no matter
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what happened with that.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Guy Well, and he was very subtly in what sounded
like protecting you. He was very subtly telling you don't
make another bad call.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You know about how I go.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I've always wondered about guys that did that and why
on earth you would do it. You know people have said,
well maybe they of the sport. You're not getting to
enjoy it. Everybody in the stadium hates you. Even the
team that wins thinks you cheated them.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, you know, you know I did it for about
thirteen years, and the biggest thing about it, you know,
I never really progressed to the higher levels because I
was more into the high school game. You know, I
think for me is one You get to stay in
the game too, I believe you get You get a
lot of insight to the game. You see a lot
of things. You always know when coaches did bad stuff.
But really it's about the interaction with the kids, you know,
(30:28):
because you're almost a coach on the field, because you
don't really call every single thing like do say in
college of the NFL because it means so much, but
we're like, hey, you know, you go to a kid
and you know, hey, maybe next time, don't put your
hands on his you know, on his shoulders that way,
or you know, hold a little bit left next time.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
What do you do?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I think is we officiated. We officiated that way and
the coaches really appreciated it. Yeah, kind of have like
another coach on there.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
What do you do now?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I own a pest control company.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Good for you? How about that.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yep, yellow rose pest and wildlie maddines.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh, I think, as he called before, as sounds for
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Me, mm hmm