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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are now told there is no Epstein list, there's
no foreign power behind what he did. There's nothing, nobody
on the list. Records weren't kept. It's almost as if
it didn't happen. It really makes you wonder how powerful
(00:25):
are the people behind the list if even into this administration,
we've got now have Cash Betel and Dan Bongino saying
there is no list, there is no conspiracy. He killed himself.
Stop talking about it. Then why is Gilan Maxwell in prison?
(00:50):
There is no list, there are no clients. If there
are no clients, there is no crime. Yet Gilan max
Well sits in prison. Wow, really puts into perspective how
powerful the people are behind all of this, doesn't it.
(01:13):
It really puts it into perspective. Officials say the death
toll from the floods now stands at one oh four.
Camp Mystic says they lost twenty seven councilors and campers,
mostly campers to the floodwaters, but there are ten campers
(01:34):
and one councilor still missing. Pat Green's wife announcing on
social media that his brother's family had perished in the floods.
It's incredible. I mean, I guess it shouldn't be how
interconnected our people are in how many people people I
(02:00):
have come to learn we're affected in one way or another,
much as you have between all the between the things
we've done in our lives, and our spouse have done
in their lives, and our kids have done in their lives,
you create quite an intricate social network, even if you
don't see those people often are seemingly ever they like pinballs,
(02:26):
bounce through your life and you know them or you
know their siblings. That's a rather intricate web when you
get done to it. It also goes to show how
many people from the Greater Houston area, although I know
people from other parts of the state were there as well,
But it goes to show how many people in the
Greater Houston area send their kids to camps in that area,
(02:51):
and a number of folks I know who did manage
to get out in time were simply there, renting houses
or owning houses and floating the river and enjoying July fourth,
because there would have been big plans for July fourth.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Coming up.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
The story of the rescue swimmer Scott Ruskin, which we
talked about yesterday, who is a coasty as they call it,
and I have heard from folks in other branches of
the military, and those guys rib each other. They never
give each other their fair due. And they say those
coasty rescue swimmers are a special breed. It's one of
(03:37):
the greatest groups of the military, that particular specialization that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You've never heard before.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Apparently their motto is so others may live. Did not
know that, but I had a number of folks reach
out to me after we talked about Scott Ruskin yesterday.
Here it is so others may live. Often overlooked, a
completely different breed, nothing but respect. Those men and women
live by a deep and simple motto, so others may live,
(04:09):
grateful for his service and sacrifice. You know how many
people were saved, how many people were rescued. When my
wife first.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Told me, I didn't think that was possible.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Real miracles occur by Robert F.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Kenny.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
These children speak Chinese and Battish. One of the cabins
at Camp Mystic is known as the Wiggle in all
had I think when was the bubble in? You know,
had little cute see names as you'd imagine. It's for
little girls. I saw a post that was then screenshot
(04:55):
and sent to me by people asking me to track
down who it was, and I already knew They said
it was to other moms, I suppose. So the children
and wiggle In with Hazel were kept safe by an
individual who works night security at camp missed it. This
guy came out to their cabin after the dam broke
and kept them inside, floating on mattresses until their heads
(05:16):
hit the ceiling before the water receded. The parents of
wiggle In or in search of this guy, but all
we've been able to gather is his name is Glenn
and he works night security from ten pm to three am,
sometimes helps grill burgers for the girls. He's also very tall,
with gray hair, and possibly a retired law enforcement officer.
(05:38):
If anyone has info and willing to pass it along,
please dm me. We want to make sure we can
thank him properly for saving our children. Understandable, right, I
wanted to thank the man who turned out to be
Eric Donaldson who saved my parents, my parents, my wife
and kids.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
When I couldn't get back from Baton.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Rouge because the road was flooded, so they held me
at belt Way eight and I couldn't get a call
from my wife because she had tucked the phone in
and they were wading out and shoulder deep water to
get to safety. I thought I did the right thing.
I put them in the Omni Hotel, which I figured
if nothing else would be safe in the Omni Hotel.
(06:19):
The water can't rise that high. Well, those bastards at
the Omni Hotel at Memorial should be hanged because they
knew at every time there's a storm, that hotel goes
under every time, and their generator is lower than ground level.
It's almost as if they tried to put their generator
(06:42):
in a spot where when the water rose, it would
go out.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
They could have lifted the generator.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It would have cost a few bucks, but they could
have done it while my wife and kids were there.
The athletic director, gym director pass because what's the long story?
She passed, and but for an amazing kitchen staff that
(07:11):
continued to operate and dig through and find food for
the residents who could not get out of the building.
There was no exit from the building. I shuddered to
think how bad it could have been, and it was bad,
but I wanted to track down and it took me
a while.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Y'all help me.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The fellow who had in his boat gone around and
picked people up, and yeah, had a good hug with him.
Came to the RCC who stayed in touch over the years,
and that was a nice thing. Just as I wanted
to track down the guy who saved my dad when
my dad had a diabetic went into a diabetic shock
(07:55):
in the middle of the highway and his car was
rolling along because he had taken his foot off the
break and he was in a state of shock and
probably would have died. It took me a while, but
I tracked him down.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I can understand that.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I can understand wanting to track this fellow down, and
they did.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
This is what he posted.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Dear wiggle in parents, I'm overwhelmed with gratitude for those
of you who reached out to me today. The tragic
event at Camp Mystic events have left a deep mark
on all of us, but they also gave me the
opportunity to spend sacred time with your daughters. Each and
every one of those sweet girls endured unimaginable moments with
incredible bravery in the midst of the storm. Cold, In
(08:39):
the midst of the storm, cold, wet and frightened showed
remarkable faith and trust in me as we worked to
stay safe together. Inside their cabin, we shared a long,
difficult night that I will never forget. I'm so proud
of them and the strength they showed. I look forward
to the chance to meet each of you in person
and wrap your amazing daughter in a big, heartfelt hug
with deeper and love.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Glynn. He is a retired law enforcement officer.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's not my job to give you his last name,
but I knew him when the first year I got
on city council, when he was still very actively an
HPD officer. This fella rut here, Scott Ruskin deserves the
highest honor. He deserves the nation's praise. Scott Ruskin. It's
(09:26):
gonna be clip number ten. Jim Here. He is talking
about trying to be the voice of calm as he
saved all these people.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, just a lot a lot of people looking very scared,
very tired, cold, missing loved ones, probably terrified, honestly, And
I was just trying to be a voice to calm
and trioge these people and get them the safety as
soon as you.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Could tell me how difficult it was, you know, It's
one thing to do trioge on an adult. But the
majority of the people that you were dealing with were kids,
young girls that were frightened about what had just took place.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, of course. So a lot of them did have
some some minor injuries, nothing too serious, thankfully, at least
the group I was dealing with, But a lot of
them were just yeah again, like very scared, and uh.
I was just trying to console them and give them
some sort of comfort. Again, they're having probably one of
the west stands their lives, but that's just what any
Coast Guard rescue swimmer and or any Coast Guard member
would have done that situation. So I was just doing
my job.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
When you first arrived here, I asked you how bad
was the water, how how bad was the current? And
you said you tried to avoid that as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah. We kind of briefed as a crew prior about
my preference if I wanted to get in the water,
if I wanted to wear a wet suit or dry suit,
whatever it may be, and I kind of advocate for
myself and say, hey, I don't want to get in
this water right now. On Friday. On Friday, it was
it was pretty bad weather, pretty high flood water, and
I didn't feel comfortable getting in, and I ended up
just staying on land and do a lot of the
(10:52):
triage with the survivors. There's other crews getting in the water,
risking way more than I was getting in. They need
that recognition as well.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So, you know, a lot of people in the audience,
they don't understand the severity of the water. They don't
understand how this changed within a matter of an hour.
Can you exp someone that's experienced with the water and
understands and respects the water and the power that it has.
Can you explain to our audience the difficulty that those
(11:19):
kids have to deal with and they weren't experienced.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
At all, right, Yeah, I mean yeah, even as a
professional rescuer, I was nervous about getting in the water.
I can't imagine how eight nine ten year olds like
these kids are heroic, like they need to get the credit.
They're the game that they need, you know, they, like
some of the camp counselors, were saving lives before we
even got there, So, I mean, without those guys, it
would be a lot worse situation. It's still very tragic,
(11:42):
but I think there definitely needs to be a lot
of heroes in praise to the survivors. They were saving themselves.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Scott Till, tell me what sticks out to you the
most being here. I've covered a lot of school shootings
with children there. What impacts you the most being out
on the.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Same Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing for
me is a lot of these kids. They're just kids.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I was a kid once. I'm only twenty six. I
got a lot of younger family and friends, and yeah,
it's just like wow, like that could have been my
family in that situation. So I need to do as
best of a job as to help get them out
of the situation.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hero I big jump here is and I'll wear that
poor foot ditch the Michael R Show, The EVO stunt
cycle rum ideal. A priest originally from Orange. I don't
know him. I think his name is Sichko.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Father.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Sichko has offered to pay for the funerals for anyone
who died, any of the campers who died in these floods.
I don't have further details. It was reported on by
KFDM Beaumont television station that I grew up watching I
(12:56):
think he's a CBS affiliate. I have ask for more details,
and I will report that when I know it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So let's take a step back.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And have a bigger conversation about a couple of things.
Number one is and there is no right answer. There
is no right answer. I mean, this is a conversation.
Thirty six years of marriage, my wife still struggles with this.
So for me, the conversation, the journey is the value,
(13:34):
not the conclusion. So at what point, if at all,
is it appropriate to start talking about things questions we
may have about preparations that were made, about rescue efforts
(13:55):
that were made. Was every rescue effort made that was possible?
Where there are the things that could have been done?
I am not stating conclusions. I'm telling you the types
of things I've heard. One thing I heard last night's
very disturbing was a statement by the Austin Fire Union
(14:19):
that their chief had ordered that they weren't going to
send their rescue units. Austin's not very far away. Everybody
in the region. It was all hands on deck to
save the children and the people in this community. The
Firefighters Union in Austin has stated that their fire chief
(14:41):
happens to be a black fellow.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I don't know if that informed what he did. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But at what point is it the right time to
have that discussion. It differs one person. They say we
need to start immediately while the conversation is still being held,
because if you wait until it subsides and the grief
begins to subside, then by the time you're ready to
(15:10):
have the conversation, we've moved on. North Carolina has natural
disasters going on. You have Laguna Beach in California, natural
disaster is going on. There will be another big, beautiful bill,
there will be another major issue, there will be an
Irani terror attack, and quickly most people will move on
(15:36):
to the next big highlight, the next big story, the
next big crisis, because news junkies just move from one
to the next.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And there's a fatigue involved in all of this. There's
a fatigue if you're choosing to be engaged in this
story rather than it being your own daughter, or your
niece or your granddaughter. If you're choosing to be involved
with this story, it's exhausting. I don't know about you,
but the last several days I have just felt a
(16:08):
physical fatigue in my body from the emotions I internalized,
and I'm sure many of you did as well. And
the way you internalize that is you hear yourself saying,
you know, as a grandmother, I just imagine my little grandbaby.
As a father, I just imagine my little daughter, and
(16:31):
empathy on that level.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Is exhausting, especially over an extended period of time. So
we engage. We engage with every text chain, with every
Facebook page, with every Twitter page, with every news story,
with every behind the news story, with every mom's group,
with every dad's group, everywhere you can get information, and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You do it with great hope.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
There were some I don't know the story. I don't
want to believe that someone called in hoaxes. I don't
know what happened, But there were several cases on Sunday
afternoon where we were told that there were girls on
the way that had been rescued. We didn't have their name,
but they would be at the church shortly, and we,
(17:24):
like many of you know a lot of people that
were waiting at the churches and they wanted the good
news which never came, which becomes a distraction, becomes a
cruelty to the family. Actually, so in the midst of
all of this, as we do with everything else in
a self governing society, we ask questions, and there is
(17:46):
a very delicate balance as to win. Are those questions
appropriate to be asked? Was there cloud seating? Well, some
people will say, yeah, we know that's cloud seating. We
know they've admitted there was cloud seeting. And then there
are people will say, why are you even.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Talking about that at all.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
It's a tough conversation to have, but we're going to
very delicately have a light version of that coming up.
Trying to start off with Channel thirteen had posted about
cloud seating, and now I've managed to lose where I
(18:29):
was reading that. I will go back to it, but
there's a bigger issue at play. So cloud seating is
usually what they use is silver iodide as I understand it,
and it is sort of injected or spread into a cloud,
(18:52):
and reports, official reports are that a cloud can generate
twenty four percent more rainfall. Now you know this is
sort of like saying the COVID shot doesn't work, it's
(19:17):
not effective.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, now we have.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Official reports that it wasn't effective, and that the nih
knew it wasn't effective, and that Fauci knew it wasn't effective.
Pretty early on we had reports that they didn't have
effectiveness rates. They didn't know that it was effective. They
were hopeful, we would presume. And now we find out
(19:48):
that they had reports that it wasn't effective, and that
masks weren't effective as Fauci originally said, and that people
were dying from the shots who had no propensity to die.
They were not morbidly obese, or elderly or in some
way immuno compromised. People die in this country every day.
(20:11):
And when when you're a country this big and you
collect data as well as we do, you start noticing
how many people die of falling downstairs and all sorts
of silly things, but it adds up to be a
significant number. The number of people who die of the
flu every year is staggeringly high. But it is not
(20:34):
typically eighteen year old, male, lean, low body fat, active
young people, just as that was true of COVID. So
why were we having these shots injected into children, healthy people,
on and on and on. Well, we've come to find
(20:56):
out there were a lot of reasons, none of them noble,
none of them good, and people died from it. So
when things like this happen. The public does not trust
the institutions that when I was growing up, I'll speak
for me, we trusted, and I mean we trusted deeply.
(21:20):
You trusted the police, You trusted the National Institute of
Health to the extent that came up. You trusted the news.
These were noble people. This was whether a myth or
a legend. This is what we were told. There were
(21:41):
people who desperately wanted to bring us the truth to
the best extent they could find it. And then you
find out people lied. Trump settled with sixty Minutes or
CBS for sixteen million dollars. They canned the guy who'd
(22:01):
been in charge of sixty Minutes for many years. This
wasn't the only time he'd done these sorts of things.
Cheryl Atkinson spent five hours with on Us one day,
morning and evening show after her book had come out.
Believe it was her second book about what they did
to her at CBS, where she was a star for
daring question the Obama administration. We see case after case
(22:24):
after case after case of these sorts of things, and
over a period of time, some of us lose a
great deal of trust. Some people can't handle it. It
makes some people crazy. Everybody knows that friend who's crazy.
(22:44):
Doesn't mean the friend is wrong, but the friend is
not able to process and reconcile living in a world
where institutions he believed were decent we're serving the public
good and then understanding it quite the opposite, and that
(23:06):
there are no consequences to that person's.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Career for it. That's hard.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
That's that's that's difficult. And the algorithm and the Plethoro,
the bounty of outlets of news, commentary, perspective advocacy pr
spend that's out there is that if you are inclined
(23:35):
to believe X, check out why. Well, if you thought
X was gonna blow your mind, why is? And then
you go to Z and then you roll over to
A and before long that person is is incapable of
conversation with people who aren't radicalized. They've got to go
(23:59):
to conferences in rallies because that's the only place they
can survive. They can't go to a dinner party, they
can't go fishing on the weekend. Everybody knows somebody, and
if you don't, you are that person who you can't
be around and have a normal conversation. But that doesn't
(24:25):
mean that person is wrong. That doesn't mean that their
opinions on most, if not all, issues are necessarily wrong.
It just means that it was so hard for them
to process it that they can think of nothing else.
They become zealots. And you find yourself, or let me say,
(24:48):
I find myself. You may find yourself feeling yes, yes
you're right, but you're gonna make me kill myself. You've
got to stop talking to me, at least about that
I have coping techniques, not that I am a soldier
(25:11):
in battle. I'm not saying I am. I'm making an analogy.
Some people have difficulty making that lead. Soldiers in battle
play cards at night. They use drugs, They go visit brothels,
they haze each other, they do any number of other
(25:31):
things to get their mind off of the war. There
are people who become so obsessed with the various stories
floating and understandably so that they become incapable. It becomes
(25:52):
an addiction, and it destroys people, and social media ends
up being a place that for those people. They can
destroy their careers, They can alienate everyone they love who
loved them. They can make themselves into an absolute monster
(26:12):
that they once were not.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You gotta be careful.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Because some people in our society simply don't care about
any of it. And I don't know that that's necessarily healthy,
although I think some people consciously make that decision for
that reason. I don't have any great advice other than
take a moment, breathe. Little girls dying like this, it's
(26:42):
got us all in a bad way.
We are now told there is no Epstein list, there's
no foreign power behind what he did. There's nothing, nobody
on the list. Records weren't kept. It's almost as if
it didn't happen. It really makes you wonder how powerful
(00:25):
are the people behind the list if even into this administration,
we've got now have Cash Betel and Dan Bongino saying
there is no list, there is no conspiracy. He killed himself.
Stop talking about it. Then why is Gilan Maxwell in prison?
(00:50):
There is no list, there are no clients. If there
are no clients, there is no crime. Yet Gilan max
Well sits in prison. Wow, really puts into perspective how
powerful the people are behind all of this, doesn't it.
(01:13):
It really puts it into perspective. Officials say the death
toll from the floods now stands at one oh four.
Camp Mystic says they lost twenty seven councilors and campers,
mostly campers to the floodwaters, but there are ten campers
(01:34):
and one councilor still missing. Pat Green's wife announcing on
social media that his brother's family had perished in the floods.
It's incredible. I mean, I guess it shouldn't be how
interconnected our people are in how many people people I
(02:00):
have come to learn we're affected in one way or another,
much as you have between all the between the things
we've done in our lives, and our spouse have done
in their lives, and our kids have done in their lives,
you create quite an intricate social network, even if you
don't see those people often are seemingly ever they like pinballs,
(02:26):
bounce through your life and you know them or you
know their siblings. That's a rather intricate web when you
get done to it. It also goes to show how
many people from the Greater Houston area, although I know
people from other parts of the state were there as well,
But it goes to show how many people in the
Greater Houston area send their kids to camps in that area,
(02:51):
and a number of folks I know who did manage
to get out in time were simply there, renting houses
or owning houses and floating the river and enjoying July fourth,
because there would have been big plans for July fourth.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Coming up.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
The story of the rescue swimmer Scott Ruskin, which we
talked about yesterday, who is a coasty as they call it,
and I have heard from folks in other branches of
the military, and those guys rib each other. They never
give each other their fair due. And they say those
coasty rescue swimmers are a special breed. It's one of
(03:37):
the greatest groups of the military, that particular specialization that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You've never heard before.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Apparently their motto is so others may live. Did not
know that, but I had a number of folks reach
out to me after we talked about Scott Ruskin yesterday.
Here it is so others may live. Often overlooked, a
completely different breed, nothing but respect. Those men and women
live by a deep and simple motto, so others may live,
(04:09):
grateful for his service and sacrifice. You know how many
people were saved, how many people were rescued. When my
wife first.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Told me, I didn't think that was possible.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Real miracles occur by Robert F.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Kenny.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
These children speak Chinese and Battish. One of the cabins
at Camp Mystic is known as the Wiggle in all
had I think when was the bubble in? You know,
had little cute see names as you'd imagine. It's for
little girls. I saw a post that was then screenshot
(04:55):
and sent to me by people asking me to track
down who it was, and I already knew They said
it was to other moms, I suppose. So the children
and wiggle In with Hazel were kept safe by an
individual who works night security at camp missed it. This
guy came out to their cabin after the dam broke
and kept them inside, floating on mattresses until their heads
(05:16):
hit the ceiling before the water receded. The parents of
wiggle In or in search of this guy, but all
we've been able to gather is his name is Glenn
and he works night security from ten pm to three am,
sometimes helps grill burgers for the girls. He's also very tall,
with gray hair, and possibly a retired law enforcement officer.
(05:38):
If anyone has info and willing to pass it along,
please dm me. We want to make sure we can
thank him properly for saving our children. Understandable, right, I
wanted to thank the man who turned out to be
Eric Donaldson who saved my parents, my parents, my wife
and kids.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
When I couldn't get back from Baton.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Rouge because the road was flooded, so they held me
at belt Way eight and I couldn't get a call
from my wife because she had tucked the phone in
and they were wading out and shoulder deep water to
get to safety. I thought I did the right thing.
I put them in the Omni Hotel, which I figured
if nothing else would be safe in the Omni Hotel.
(06:19):
The water can't rise that high. Well, those bastards at
the Omni Hotel at Memorial should be hanged because they
knew at every time there's a storm, that hotel goes
under every time, and their generator is lower than ground level.
It's almost as if they tried to put their generator
(06:42):
in a spot where when the water rose, it would
go out.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
They could have lifted the generator.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It would have cost a few bucks, but they could
have done it while my wife and kids were there.
The athletic director, gym director pass because what's the long story?
She passed, and but for an amazing kitchen staff that
(07:11):
continued to operate and dig through and find food for
the residents who could not get out of the building.
There was no exit from the building. I shuddered to
think how bad it could have been, and it was bad,
but I wanted to track down and it took me
a while.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Y'all help me.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The fellow who had in his boat gone around and
picked people up, and yeah, had a good hug with him.
Came to the RCC who stayed in touch over the years,
and that was a nice thing. Just as I wanted
to track down the guy who saved my dad when
my dad had a diabetic went into a diabetic shock
(07:55):
in the middle of the highway and his car was
rolling along because he had taken his foot off the
break and he was in a state of shock and
probably would have died. It took me a while, but
I tracked him down.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I can understand that.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I can understand wanting to track this fellow down, and
they did.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
This is what he posted.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Dear wiggle in parents, I'm overwhelmed with gratitude for those
of you who reached out to me today. The tragic
event at Camp Mystic events have left a deep mark
on all of us, but they also gave me the
opportunity to spend sacred time with your daughters. Each and
every one of those sweet girls endured unimaginable moments with
incredible bravery in the midst of the storm. Cold, In
(08:39):
the midst of the storm, cold, wet and frightened showed
remarkable faith and trust in me as we worked to
stay safe together. Inside their cabin, we shared a long,
difficult night that I will never forget. I'm so proud
of them and the strength they showed. I look forward
to the chance to meet each of you in person
and wrap your amazing daughter in a big, heartfelt hug
with deeper and love.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Glynn. He is a retired law enforcement officer.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's not my job to give you his last name,
but I knew him when the first year I got
on city council, when he was still very actively an
HPD officer. This fella rut here, Scott Ruskin deserves the
highest honor. He deserves the nation's praise. Scott Ruskin. It's
(09:26):
gonna be clip number ten. Jim Here. He is talking
about trying to be the voice of calm as he
saved all these people.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, just a lot a lot of people looking very scared,
very tired, cold, missing loved ones, probably terrified, honestly, And
I was just trying to be a voice to calm
and trioge these people and get them the safety as
soon as you.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Could tell me how difficult it was, you know, It's
one thing to do trioge on an adult. But the
majority of the people that you were dealing with were kids,
young girls that were frightened about what had just took place.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, of course. So a lot of them did have
some some minor injuries, nothing too serious, thankfully, at least
the group I was dealing with, But a lot of
them were just yeah again, like very scared, and uh.
I was just trying to console them and give them
some sort of comfort. Again, they're having probably one of
the west stands their lives, but that's just what any
Coast Guard rescue swimmer and or any Coast Guard member
would have done that situation. So I was just doing
my job.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
When you first arrived here, I asked you how bad
was the water, how how bad was the current? And
you said you tried to avoid that as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah. We kind of briefed as a crew prior about
my preference if I wanted to get in the water,
if I wanted to wear a wet suit or dry suit,
whatever it may be, and I kind of advocate for
myself and say, hey, I don't want to get in
this water right now. On Friday. On Friday, it was
it was pretty bad weather, pretty high flood water, and
I didn't feel comfortable getting in, and I ended up
just staying on land and do a lot of the
(10:52):
triage with the survivors. There's other crews getting in the water,
risking way more than I was getting in. They need
that recognition as well.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So, you know, a lot of people in the audience,
they don't understand the severity of the water. They don't
understand how this changed within a matter of an hour.
Can you exp someone that's experienced with the water and
understands and respects the water and the power that it has.
Can you explain to our audience the difficulty that those
(11:19):
kids have to deal with and they weren't experienced.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
At all, right, Yeah, I mean yeah, even as a
professional rescuer, I was nervous about getting in the water.
I can't imagine how eight nine ten year olds like
these kids are heroic, like they need to get the credit.
They're the game that they need, you know, they, like
some of the camp counselors, were saving lives before we
even got there, So, I mean, without those guys, it
would be a lot worse situation. It's still very tragic,
(11:42):
but I think there definitely needs to be a lot
of heroes in praise to the survivors. They were saving themselves.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Scott Till, tell me what sticks out to you the
most being here. I've covered a lot of school shootings
with children there. What impacts you the most being out
on the.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Same Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing for
me is a lot of these kids. They're just kids.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I was a kid once. I'm only twenty six. I
got a lot of younger family and friends, and yeah,
it's just like wow, like that could have been my
family in that situation. So I need to do as
best of a job as to help get them out
of the situation.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hero I big jump here is and I'll wear that
poor foot ditch the Michael R Show, The EVO stunt
cycle rum ideal. A priest originally from Orange. I don't
know him. I think his name is Sichko.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Father.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Sichko has offered to pay for the funerals for anyone
who died, any of the campers who died in these floods.
I don't have further details. It was reported on by
KFDM Beaumont television station that I grew up watching I
(12:56):
think he's a CBS affiliate. I have ask for more details,
and I will report that when I know it.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So let's take a step back.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And have a bigger conversation about a couple of things.
Number one is and there is no right answer. There
is no right answer. I mean, this is a conversation.
Thirty six years of marriage, my wife still struggles with this.
So for me, the conversation, the journey is the value,
(13:34):
not the conclusion. So at what point, if at all,
is it appropriate to start talking about things questions we
may have about preparations that were made, about rescue efforts
(13:55):
that were made. Was every rescue effort made that was possible?
Where there are the things that could have been done?
I am not stating conclusions. I'm telling you the types
of things I've heard. One thing I heard last night's
very disturbing was a statement by the Austin Fire Union
(14:19):
that their chief had ordered that they weren't going to
send their rescue units. Austin's not very far away. Everybody
in the region. It was all hands on deck to
save the children and the people in this community. The
Firefighters Union in Austin has stated that their fire chief
(14:41):
happens to be a black fellow.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I don't know if that informed what he did. I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But at what point is it the right time to
have that discussion. It differs one person. They say we
need to start immediately while the conversation is still being held,
because if you wait until it subsides and the grief
begins to subside, then by the time you're ready to
(15:10):
have the conversation, we've moved on. North Carolina has natural
disasters going on. You have Laguna Beach in California, natural
disaster is going on. There will be another big, beautiful bill,
there will be another major issue, there will be an
Irani terror attack, and quickly most people will move on
(15:36):
to the next big highlight, the next big story, the
next big crisis, because news junkies just move from one
to the next.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And there's a fatigue involved in all of this. There's
a fatigue if you're choosing to be engaged in this
story rather than it being your own daughter, or your
niece or your granddaughter. If you're choosing to be involved
with this story, it's exhausting. I don't know about you,
but the last several days I have just felt a
(16:08):
physical fatigue in my body from the emotions I internalized,
and I'm sure many of you did as well. And
the way you internalize that is you hear yourself saying,
you know, as a grandmother, I just imagine my little grandbaby.
As a father, I just imagine my little daughter, and
(16:31):
empathy on that level.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Is exhausting, especially over an extended period of time. So
we engage. We engage with every text chain, with every
Facebook page, with every Twitter page, with every news story,
with every behind the news story, with every mom's group,
with every dad's group, everywhere you can get information, and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
You do it with great hope.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
There were some I don't know the story. I don't
want to believe that someone called in hoaxes. I don't
know what happened, But there were several cases on Sunday
afternoon where we were told that there were girls on
the way that had been rescued. We didn't have their name,
but they would be at the church shortly, and we,
(17:24):
like many of you know a lot of people that
were waiting at the churches and they wanted the good
news which never came, which becomes a distraction, becomes a
cruelty to the family. Actually, so in the midst of
all of this, as we do with everything else in
a self governing society, we ask questions, and there is
(17:46):
a very delicate balance as to win. Are those questions
appropriate to be asked? Was there cloud seating? Well, some
people will say, yeah, we know that's cloud seating. We
know they've admitted there was cloud seeting. And then there
are people will say, why are you even.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Talking about that at all.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
It's a tough conversation to have, but we're going to
very delicately have a light version of that coming up.
Trying to start off with Channel thirteen had posted about
cloud seating, and now I've managed to lose where I
(18:29):
was reading that. I will go back to it, but
there's a bigger issue at play. So cloud seating is
usually what they use is silver iodide as I understand it,
and it is sort of injected or spread into a cloud,
(18:52):
and reports, official reports are that a cloud can generate
twenty four percent more rainfall. Now you know this is
sort of like saying the COVID shot doesn't work, it's
(19:17):
not effective.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, now we have.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Official reports that it wasn't effective, and that the nih
knew it wasn't effective, and that Fauci knew it wasn't effective.
Pretty early on we had reports that they didn't have
effectiveness rates. They didn't know that it was effective. They
were hopeful, we would presume. And now we find out
(19:48):
that they had reports that it wasn't effective, and that
masks weren't effective as Fauci originally said, and that people
were dying from the shots who had no propensity to die.
They were not morbidly obese, or elderly or in some
way immuno compromised. People die in this country every day.
(20:11):
And when when you're a country this big and you
collect data as well as we do, you start noticing
how many people die of falling downstairs and all sorts
of silly things, but it adds up to be a
significant number. The number of people who die of the
flu every year is staggeringly high. But it is not
(20:34):
typically eighteen year old, male, lean, low body fat, active
young people, just as that was true of COVID. So
why were we having these shots injected into children, healthy people,
on and on and on. Well, we've come to find
(20:56):
out there were a lot of reasons, none of them noble,
none of them good, and people died from it. So
when things like this happen. The public does not trust
the institutions that when I was growing up, I'll speak
for me, we trusted, and I mean we trusted deeply.
(21:20):
You trusted the police, You trusted the National Institute of
Health to the extent that came up. You trusted the news.
These were noble people. This was whether a myth or
a legend. This is what we were told. There were
(21:41):
people who desperately wanted to bring us the truth to
the best extent they could find it. And then you
find out people lied. Trump settled with sixty Minutes or
CBS for sixteen million dollars. They canned the guy who'd
(22:01):
been in charge of sixty Minutes for many years. This
wasn't the only time he'd done these sorts of things.
Cheryl Atkinson spent five hours with on Us one day,
morning and evening show after her book had come out.
Believe it was her second book about what they did
to her at CBS, where she was a star for
daring question the Obama administration. We see case after case
(22:24):
after case after case of these sorts of things, and
over a period of time, some of us lose a
great deal of trust. Some people can't handle it. It
makes some people crazy. Everybody knows that friend who's crazy.
(22:44):
Doesn't mean the friend is wrong, but the friend is
not able to process and reconcile living in a world
where institutions he believed were decent we're serving the public
good and then understanding it quite the opposite, and that
(23:06):
there are no consequences to that person's.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Career for it. That's hard.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
That's that's that's difficult. And the algorithm and the Plethoro,
the bounty of outlets of news, commentary, perspective advocacy pr
spend that's out there is that if you are inclined
(23:35):
to believe X, check out why. Well, if you thought
X was gonna blow your mind, why is? And then
you go to Z and then you roll over to
A and before long that person is is incapable of
conversation with people who aren't radicalized. They've got to go
(23:59):
to conferences in rallies because that's the only place they
can survive. They can't go to a dinner party, they
can't go fishing on the weekend. Everybody knows somebody, and
if you don't, you are that person who you can't
be around and have a normal conversation. But that doesn't
(24:25):
mean that person is wrong. That doesn't mean that their
opinions on most, if not all, issues are necessarily wrong.
It just means that it was so hard for them
to process it that they can think of nothing else.
They become zealots. And you find yourself, or let me say,
(24:48):
I find myself. You may find yourself feeling yes, yes
you're right, but you're gonna make me kill myself. You've
got to stop talking to me, at least about that
I have coping techniques, not that I am a soldier
(25:11):
in battle. I'm not saying I am. I'm making an analogy.
Some people have difficulty making that lead. Soldiers in battle
play cards at night. They use drugs, They go visit brothels,
they haze each other, they do any number of other
(25:31):
things to get their mind off of the war. There
are people who become so obsessed with the various stories
floating and understandably so that they become incapable. It becomes
(25:52):
an addiction, and it destroys people, and social media ends
up being a place that for those people. They can
destroy their careers, They can alienate everyone they love who
loved them. They can make themselves into an absolute monster
(26:12):
that they once were not.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You gotta be careful.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Because some people in our society simply don't care about
any of it. And I don't know that that's necessarily healthy,
although I think some people consciously make that decision for
that reason. I don't have any great advice other than
take a moment, breathe. Little girls dying like this, it's
(26:42):
got us all in a bad way.
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