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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
But Chief also checks another box when it comes to
inclusivity and diversity and this department. She's a proud member
of the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That just kind of opens the door of people that thought, Oh, I.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Didn't even know that that was an opportunity for me.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Ain't nobody get time for it?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm super inspired.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
She took time out of her already busy schedule to
tell us about her vision for the department's future, one
that includes a three year strategic plan to increase diversity.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
People ask me, well, what number are you looking for us?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm looking for a number is never enough.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Out of thirty three hundred city firefighters, only one hundred
and fifteen are women. Right now, She's already looking at
ways to change that. She's quick to point out that
doing so has a greater purpose attracting the best and
brightest for the job.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part
of a cohesive team. You might have recall a new
story from last year.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
There was some interest in the fire departments and the
firefighters in California, and the interest was that there were
too many white men who.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Were firefighters, and we need to have a program in.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
California to make sure we don't have enough white men
as firefighters.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
They said, we have no water. I said, do you
have a drought? No, I don't have a drought. I said,
why did you have no water? Because the water isn't
allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from
Canada all the way up north, more water than they
could have used.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
And in order to.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Protect a tiny little fish, the water up north gets
routed into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of gallons.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Of water gets poured.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
I could have water for all of that land, water
for your forests. You know your forests are dry as
a bone. Okay, dangerous that water could be routed.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
You know, you could have everything.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
What is the situation with water?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Obviously in the pal sage ran out last night in
the hydrants. I turned the firefighter in this block.
Speaker 8 (02:48):
They laughed, because there were no water in the hydrant here.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Local folks are going to figure that out.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Do you, oh, citizen's an apology for being absent while
their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire
department budgeted by millions of dollars, Madam, there have you
nothing to say today? Eylon Mosque says that you're utterly incompetent.
Are you considering your position, Adam mayor have you absolutely
(03:19):
nothing to say to the citizens today? You're dealing with
this disaster.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Thank you to Creative director Jim Mudd for that. Firefighters
are one of those things you don't think about and
you shouldn't need to till you need them. Remember, after
nine to eleven people wore fd N y caps across
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the country, the New York Fire Department was on the
mind of every American. It's funny, isn't it. There's so
many things in life we don't think about, we don't
talk about until we need them, and then yeah, hope
(04:48):
you have them. Ramon lives in a two story home.
He's got a patio upstairs. Off the back of the patio,
he has a little bag. It's kind of out of place.
It's a clear plastic bag. It's next to the door.
And if you're OCD like I am, you think, oh,
(05:09):
what's that back, then let's do that a way. It's
a ladder. Should it be needed to open the door
and throw it off the back? It's one of those
things seems silly till you need it. My dad was
always that guy that had before we knew it was
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before we knew the term bug out bag. He had
a bug out back for us. The survivalists do these
sorts of things, you know, when you say to the
guy when you break down, Ah, you don't happen. Of
course I do, because I planned to head for this,
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and then there's everybody else that wouldn't think twice, well,
why would I have the ability to change out the tire?
Let me see what they gave me when I bought
the vehicle. Firefighters of that sort of thing, you don't
want to have to think about firefighters. Who cares about
firefighters were only firefighters. They worry about whether they're trained,
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how many we have, whether the fire hydrants work. But
at the moment you need them. You assumed that somebody
else did worry and somebody else did take pains. Big difference,
Big difference. Rom On, you got that clip. Ktr h's
(06:38):
Morning News this morning, just before we came on the air,
played a clip talking about the cause of the wildfires
in Los Angeles, and this was with there was going
to be a fire yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
No matter what some people are like, oh is it
a gender revealed party that sparked? It was that this
was at that was at a homeless encampment. Probably one
of them was.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Play that one or done.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
There was going to be.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
A fire yesterday, no matter what some people are like,
oh is it a gender revealed party that sparked? It
was that this was at that was at a homeless encampment,
probably one of them.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Do you know what he was when he says that,
people ask him that what he means is among the
stupid things. It could have caused a bunch of people
to die because of this fire. Which one was it? Fellas,
The ladies won't listen to this, but you can. Nobody
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wants your stupid gender reveal. You don't want your stupid
gender reveal. There is a moment for every fellaw when
your testosterone level is low, you put on a little fat,
your girls pregnant, and she's like.
Speaker 9 (07:53):
Let's take pictures all day every day. Here you stand
here doing this, here, you take this, look here you
put you do this stupid thing, and you're thinking, well,
we're in love. It's okay. The fellas want mine now,
don't do that we're gonna do a gender reveal. Oh,
(08:15):
my girlfriends think it'll be great. Don't do it, Fellas,
people hate you for that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Trust me, don't do it. Lit W twenty five package
and you get it all fiberglass hood with air grabbing
scoops mid the Michael Berry fucking hood pins. Shouldsmobile escape
from the ordinary.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Last time they had a bad on Montitude down the road?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
What happened, George?
Speaker 9 (08:41):
Where body walk down.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Enough to fall and burning out of control? Here, God,
don't do the wrong thing, George.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
I was down there in about an hour. Oh man,
my mouth, you was ready.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
He's unrolling the hose when he ought not. You call
me my nephew, also named Michael Berry, is an Humble
Fire Department firefighter and at his wedding, as with every firefighter,
they play this song. But I can never think of
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this song the same. We had a firefighter who died
in the line of duty. I don't know. I think
I was on city council at times seventeen years ago
or so and could have been twenty years And at
the funeral this song is playing as they're showing photos
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of him in the course of his life, and there's
one of him and his buddy at a firefighter conference.
I find out later what the context was, and they
got their leg hiked like a dog peeing on a
fire hydrant, which was real funny at the time. If
you know firefighters, they're guys. Guys, they clown around. I mean,
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probably nobody drinks more at a at a at the
night of a wedding. And he had died, and instead
of you know, a sad song, they played this at
the funeral with pictures of him having fun, which made
it so much more painful to watch. And I have
never forgotten that image, because when somebody dies, no matter
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how sad you are, the most painful memory is what
a fun guy that guy was. And there was that
song playing and they had such fun with They showed
pictures of this guy who was clowning around constantly, and
the idea that well, he's just not gonna clown around anymore.
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That was so much more emotionally draining to me than
if they'd played an overwrought sad song and just put
a picture up there with his birth and death date.
I could have done that. It was how much fun
he was having and now he's not having fun. Anymore.
That was hard process. We lost a firefighter yesterday day
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before five thirty am and Sunnyside three firefighters terribly burned.
Our fire chief are new far chief, first time on
the air. Welcome Chief Tom Munios.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Thank you, Mike, thank you. And yeah, that song does
there's been around for a long time, and you're right,
it brings back a lot of memory. And that's just
a brotherhood and sisterhood we have, you know. It's yeah,
it's a great calling, it really is.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
You've had a rough couple of days.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Yes, so we have, you know, but as every you know,
I'll tell you Mike, I love this fire department and
and you know we're we have marors, very supportive and
we were all together, you know. Obviously I called him
last night on May Rest in peace. Captain Rio's from
Station one o fours, you know, had an illness and unfortunately,
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you know he passed. But again the brotherhood and sisterhood
was there. The Mary and I were out at looking
at those three firefighters that you know, doing their job,
and that's what we do each and every day, wake up,
you know, to put our lives before others. And yesterday,
well a few days ago when we were there. It's
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just a reminder of what we do and you know,
the great men and women, men and women we have
in this fire department that just doing a freaking job eaching.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
What happened with with those three young.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Guys right now they're in the hospital, you know, and
like anything else they went in and then you know,
going into burning building is you know, there's always those
those risks every single time. And that's what happened. Is
it called the flashover. And you know, fortunately for the
the training that they have and the crew that we have,
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you know, they were able to survive. And you know,
and the I think the amazing thing the support of
the administration we had We started a rehire program, right
firefighters that had left and now wanted to come back,
and that the person firefighter who was able to turn
down the door and I'd say it literally turned down
the door, was a rehire who was able to grab
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that door, tear it off, and was able to you know,
do the tactics that were required to save those members.
So yeah, you know, and I say, you know, Mike,
it's definitely God was watching over us that day like
he does every day. But you know, it was just
everything that was done. They'd saved their lives and it
was just that whole, the whole process. But yeah, it's
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just a reminder what we do every day.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Houston Fire Department Chief Tim Munos is our guests. Are
the three of them going to make a full recovery
best we can tell.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
Yes, sure they are. Yeah, and we do appreciate this,
you know, the City of Houston's residents' prayers for that,
but they aren't going to make a recovery, yes, sir,
thanks for asking that. Mike.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
We've got some people outside the City of Houston also praying.
You're okay with that, right?
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Oh, absolutely sure.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But yeah, they're not tax paying citizens and they're not
really in the ETJ, but they are still praying. I
just want to be clear, Yeah, you know, and you're right.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
I've gotten calls from New York and Chicago, so my
brothers and sisters out there who are keeping them in
their prayers, which're absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Correct that fire. Can you talk a little bit about
the danger My understanding as we got my understanding is
particularly hands extremities were terribly burned. Can you shed a
little more light on that.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Yeah, you know, it's like they have their their gloves
and everything, all the protective gear that we have, and
you know, it got Like I said, a flashover is
really an extremely hot fire that it just happens. The
whole chemistry takes place and everything does through erups right.
And then of course in the process of the door
behind them had had shut down, had closed, and it's
one of those old heavy doors. But the guys were
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there ready to h to make that entrance. Uh, and
the and the guys behind them that were supporting them
were able to break that door down in But it's
just it's a sign, you know, the chemistry of fire
and everything just erupted. And their gloves obviously everything has
a a a burn factor and you know, but their
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hands were burnt and uh, but you know they they're
right now at the hospital making that recovery, going through
the process of healing.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
A burn is such a terrible, terrible injury to have.
We're fortunate to have for our children one of the
greatest charitable organizations in the country, which is our Shriners,
that does so much for for burn victim children and
they have the coolest hats of any charity out there.
There's that's not even a discussion. But but our prayers
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for those guys because that is a long and very
very painful, very painful, I'm told Recovery Chief Tom Luno's
I got the message just before you came on the
air that you want to make Ramona and I honorary
captains and put a and put a pumper truck at
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our disposal at all times. And I just once you
know I appreciate that.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Yeah, and we'll see you at the physical test.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Mike, Yeah, no worry, PT won't be a problem. Ramon
the difference. Yeah, we got this, don't worry. I did
the one day Citizen's Fire Academy, so I'm already halfway there.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Chief.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Thank you, Michael, Wow, Mali Forina. Who is Puerto Rican Rights? When?
When us sr Czar? February twenty eighteen, we were awakened
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at five to eleven a m with an explosion in
our garage that shared a wall with our master bedroom.
We escaped with our dogs three minutes before the master
ceiling collapsed. Of the one hundred to two San Antonio
Fire Department firefighters at our home that morning, a couple
were put in charge of taking down our irreplaceable family
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portraits and baby pictures hanging on the wall to rescue them.
That was a powerful gesture. A'malia, Yeah, yeah, I can imagine.
The reason I know she's Puerto Rican Ramon is that
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she and her husband came on our last was it
Palm Beach? No, they came on our last Colorado trip,
our listener trip. And her husband, if he walked in
right now, you go, oh, santy Claus is here. He
does santy Claus, so he stays in Santa Claus here
round for two reasons. First, you can't exactly pace yourself
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on how long it's gonna take to grow you santy
Claus beard. And secondly, people will hire you in March
to be santy Claus, and you're the only one got
the beard. Right. That's think about that. That's take it
where you can get it. But we had our staff
meeting because I bring a whole group at the end
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of an evening one day and we all sit outside
on this balcony at night and we do you know
where you're from? What do you do? How did you
find the show? Blah blah blah blah, you know where
were you born? All that? And this couple, they were
so interesting everybody loved them, and they split their time
between Texas and Puerto Rico. And somebody asked, and I
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don't remember who it was. It might have been Uncle Jerry,
could have been Emily. Somebody with a kind of off
color said, you think that's extra sexy for her, that
he's santy Claus. And you know, you've had a couple
of drinks at the end of the night, you're blown
off some steam. And we decided that, you know, that's
kind of a whole different deal. You know, if you're
a firefighter, you're like, yeah, daddy's home my falls of
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fires today. You know, if you want me to wear
my uniform, my wheel right, because you don't know, you
don't know. For him, it's like, eh, well, you know
you want to set on my lap and tell santy Claus.
And we laughed and laughed and laughed at the thought
of that. Anyway, it just made me think of it
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for people who've had a fire or a flood, if
you've had everything you own reduced to rubble, it's a
very humbling experience. After Harvey, we had three feet of
water in our house, and the worst part about that
was that we had put everything from my wife's childhood
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and my kid's childhood in Africa in these cabinets downstairs,
out of the way. And the idea was they're on
the ground floor, so should there be the need for
us to get out fast, they're right close to the door.
We can grab them and the one thing we want lose,
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the furniture, can be replaced. We'll call Mack. But these
things and my wife showed up. And my wife is
not an emotional person. You can know her for forty
years and you won't see her cry. Just does not cry.
She's a very strong part. Now I'll cry at tender mercies,
you know, still Magnolias. My daddy's got die, meaning you
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can't blame me for crying. My daddy's got die. Met
I've lived. My daddy's that diamets. I think you can't.
You gotta understand. But my mother, my wife, mother, and
my children, huh huh. And so she is the strong
one in the family. And she sat there instill a
foot of water and everything is destroyed. There's there's birth certificates,
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there's everything we owned floating in the water. It's gone.
You're not going to replace it's it's so thoroughly damaged.
And my wife is so bummed for our kids. And
she said, you know, we've lost our home. And the
boys said, quoting her, ma, our home is wherever we are.
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We can move across the street, and it just she
just oh, she says. She probably almost cried. And that's
a serious moment for my wife. She probably almost cried
at the idea that, Wow, they've listened. It's true. Our
home is where the four of us are. It's not documents,
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it's not papers. It can't be put in a in
it can't be put behind a glass and brass, it
can't be hung on the wall. Our home is us.
That's that's who we are. A man free on bond
for murdering an Air Force airman who was on leave
in a drive by shooting. That man free on bond
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vanishes days before his trial back in September. This week,
US Marshalls, along with DPS agents, raided an apartment in
East Houston, endangering their own lives to bring him back.
We already had him, but Judge Democrat Veronica Nelson freed
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him on a bond in the first place. I like
Veronica Nelson and her loved ones to have to serve
the warrants to go get these people. I wish evil
that happens to innocent people in this city would happen
to Veronica Nelson every single time she has to sentence
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one of these people, so she'd stop putting them back
out on the streets. I wish every one of these Democrats,
George Sorows, his goofy son who looks like Lena Hidalgo's husband.
I wish every one of these Democrats, Rodney Ellis, every
one of them would have awful things happened to them
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so they would understand what we're talking about here and
they would stop this nonsense. The story from ABC thirteen.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
In twenty four and fled. ABC thirteen obtained exclusive video
of agents raiding a home on Houston's East Side that
led to Ornells's re arrest along with another person.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Right now, there are two people that are in the
Harris County jail. They're being held on connection for the
murder of that twenty twenty one murder of Albert Castillo Junior.
A third person is also in jail. She's accused of
helping one of those men go on the run and
evade police. Go ahead and take a look at your screen.
This is video that was obtained by ABC thirteen and
you're able to see a law enforcement raid of an
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apartment complex on Houston's East Side on Pope Street. The
result of that raid was the rearrast of thirty one
year old at Gio Ornellis, who was accused of the
murder and of removing a GPS angle monitor. Also arrested
a thirty four year old Onastasia Hernandez. She is Ornella's girlfriend.
That two of them do share a child. She's accused
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of helping him if a law enforcement A third person,
a thirty year old Jose Cabrera, is also charged in
the murder, but he was already in jail. He was
being held in connection with another crime. ABC thirteen spoke
to the victim's sister, who says that she's overwhelmed to
know that the accused are back behind bars.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
I'm happy, sad, I beat. Nothing's gonna bring my brother back,
but at least the peace, the peace, Well, my brother's
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able to arrest.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
The peace.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Families did not have to suffer twice. Is that simple?
These democrats who do this, these awful bashed or democrats who.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
Do this he'll just go ahead and say it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Sorry to Michael Barry Show. Oh, I see what you're doing.
We're doing fire songs today as your firefighters Coriput, all right,
I got you. Wherever you are city of Houston, outside
city of Houston. Love it then and Tone Greenland. You
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pass a fire department today, go grab some food and
bring it to him. Nobody loves food like firefighters. Ramon,
what would be the cutoff time if you was to
if you were to bring donuts to the fire department,
what would be the time at which you're like, that's weird? Ten?
No cut off or donuts not per fire? Like you
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know something. You said that so knowledgeably. That was funny.
Sometimes you're funny. I mean, don't there's nothing to worry about.
It killed Ricky Henderson, But I had pneumonia in November
and I still have a cough. I mean, nobody other
than me and Mary Tally Boden think it's a big deal.
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But and my wife. But the problem is my wife
wants me to go back and see Mary Taly Boneen,
and I really don't want to have stuff stuck in me,
really really don't want to have stuff stuck in me.
Very very much do. I don't want to have stuck
in me stuff stuck in me? No serious question. What
is the reasonable time? All joking aside that you go,
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all right, let's switch over to lunch from donuts. Eleven.
Oh I would have said ten. Okay, But you know what,
that's what I love about. You're very inclusive, very open minded. Okay,
so up until eleven. So if you're in the sound
of my voice right now, there's a station, you're at
your office. You're at your office, and go, wait a second,
I'm just down the street from sixes. Oh, by the way,
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if you want to be an insider, say the number
of the station and make it plural. Oh, you work
over at twenties And people are like, oh, ye are
you fire? That's the way firefighters talk. If you just
get the vernacular, the lingo, the jargon of people's industry,
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then and you throw it in there very confidently, like
there's nothing and you don't wait on a response. You
just like, yeah, what whoa what he whoa?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
What do you how do you know? How do you know?
It gives you that people are like, oh, you must
have been ten years at a station. How do you know?
About sex is. Oh, I can talk about it.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
You know it is.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You know, your's vast experience doing many, many things. But
I appreciate your service. Oh wait, how do you know?
So up until you say eleven, I'm gonna let you.
I'm gonna let you run this program up until eleven,
Go get some doughnuts? Should it be Shipley's with an ass?
Should be Shipley's, all right? Not Krispy Kreme? You think
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firefighters like Shipley's all Right? I got an email from
a one yesterday. They had just had a terrible thing happen,
and the Utasca seat of Fire Department had responded and
at the end of it all, they're gonna survive, she realized.
As the firefighters were walking off, she runs her husband
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doesn't know what's happening, and she says, there's one of y'all,
Michael Berry, Michael Berry's nephew. And they said, no, ma'am,
he's with the Humble Fire Department. And she said, how
do you know that? We all know him? And we
listened to his uncle and she said, oh, okay, I
just thought I might have had a chance to meet
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his nephew. And they chuckled and they walked off, and
her husband said, I'm not going to tell her story
what happened to them, but trust me, it was a
horrible thing that happened to them that they needed the
fire department. And her husband said, seriously, that just happened,
and you're trying to find out if one of those gus.
She said, well, you know, she emails me every single day.
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I've got people who email. The rule is you only
get one email per day. She uses her one email
per day by nine o'clock every morning. Name is Jennifer.
That's all I'll say. And so I've got little old ladies,
young women, young guys, you know whatever. I'm a routine guy,
and I can tell based on the time that emails
come in. There are people who will email at eight
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thirty every single day, or you know, eleven oh one
when the show first goes off the morning, off in
the morning. So the morning I got it, I got
a question for you. So I'm not going to say
his name because it's a personal detail and I wouldn't
do that like Claypool. So we're playing pick a ball.
I took an hour and fifteen minutes because we had
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a busy schedule as you know, yesterday I didn't even
tell Ramon why I was leaving. I said, I'll be
back in an hour and a half because it's in
a minute home. Seven minutes back I showed up, they
were already warmed up. I don't have time to warm up, guys.
We got to play pick away. I get get back
to the studio. Was it two o'clock and it was
freezing cold yesterday, So we're out there and everything I
got shriveled up. But you know, ten minutes in you
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move around, you're fine. And so my buddy whose name
I'm not going to mention that clipool, he tells a
story in the middle of the game.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
His son.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Was born, his youngest son and who's at the University
of Texas now his oldest son's at Georgia, and he says,
the son is born and they have the stork. I
guess in the room outside the room where you put
the name on it. We're not a traditional family because
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my wife didn't grow up here, and I don't know
any of the traditions because we didn't have them, and
my wife didn't have them because she grew up India,
so I didn't know about this. So apparently there be
a store and you put the baby's name and wait,
and so they put the baby's name, and wait and
everything else, and the baby's name is Blake. And then
they're looking at the baby and his wife, his sweet, beautiful,
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wonderful wife, Lorie. I don't know, I can't say her name,
never mind, says he's not a Blake. Well, what do
you mean he's not a blake? Well, you know your
wife's just giving birth. You're not gonna come to You're right,
he's not a blake. What is he exactly? He's Connor.
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So they've got family members out in the waiting room.
I cast to get the sorry, my friend has to
get the sharpiet walk out mark through Blake. Blake was
not born seven pounds four ounces yesterday at six thirty
eight am. Connor was, and I got this is pneumonia
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from two months ago. I should be over by now.
And so I thought I got to do one segment
on crazy naming stories. The husbands would be more likely
to call in let me tell what my wife did.
But if I could get some of the women to
call in, there's gonna be some funny stories. Well, he
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was gonna be Ingram, you know the these names. Now,
I got a nephew named Brayden, a niece named Bailey.
My brother was into the you know, the new names
of the day instead the traditional names like Crockett. That's
a joke, but there's got to be some funny. We
looked at our baby and realized he wasn't a blake.
(32:47):
How do I said? I'm sorry? I said to my friend,
how do you know that wasn't a blake. I mean,
it's a little, it's a it's a collection of cells.
How do you know anyway? Seven one three nine nine
nine one thousand,
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
But Chief also checks another box when it comes to
inclusivity and diversity and this department. She's a proud member
of the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That just kind of opens the door of people that thought, Oh, I.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Didn't even know that that was an opportunity for me.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Ain't nobody get time for it?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm super inspired.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
She took time out of her already busy schedule to
tell us about her vision for the department's future, one
that includes a three year strategic plan to increase diversity.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
People ask me, well, what number are you looking for us?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm looking for a number is never enough.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Out of thirty three hundred city firefighters, only one hundred
and fifteen are women. Right now, She's already looking at
ways to change that. She's quick to point out that
doing so has a greater purpose attracting the best and
brightest for the job.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They feel included, they feel valued, and they feel part
of a cohesive team. You might have recall a new
story from last year.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
There was some interest in the fire departments and the
firefighters in California, and the interest was that there were
too many white men who.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Were firefighters, and we need to have a program in.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
California to make sure we don't have enough white men
as firefighters.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
They said, we have no water. I said, do you
have a drought? No, I don't have a drought. I said,
why did you have no water? Because the water isn't
allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from
Canada all the way up north, more water than they
could have used.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
And in order to.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Protect a tiny little fish, the water up north gets
routed into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of gallons.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
Of water gets poured.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
I could have water for all of that land, water
for your forests. You know your forests are dry as
a bone. Okay, dangerous that water could be routed.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
You know, you could have everything.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
What is the situation with water?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Obviously in the pal sage ran out last night in
the hydrants. I turned the firefighter in this block.
Speaker 8 (02:48):
They laughed, because there were no water in the hydrant here.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Local folks are going to figure that out.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Do you, oh, citizen's an apology for being absent while
their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire
department budgeted by millions of dollars, Madam, there have you
nothing to say today? Eylon Mosque says that you're utterly incompetent.
Are you considering your position, Adam mayor have you absolutely
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nothing to say to the citizens today? You're dealing with
this disaster.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Thank you to Creative director Jim Mudd for that. Firefighters
are one of those things you don't think about and
you shouldn't need to till you need them. Remember, after
nine to eleven people wore fd N y caps across
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the country, the New York Fire Department was on the
mind of every American. It's funny, isn't it. There's so
many things in life we don't think about, we don't
talk about until we need them, and then yeah, hope
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you have them. Ramon lives in a two story home.
He's got a patio upstairs. Off the back of the patio,
he has a little bag. It's kind of out of place.
It's a clear plastic bag. It's next to the door.
And if you're OCD like I am, you think, oh,
(05:09):
what's that back, then let's do that a way. It's
a ladder. Should it be needed to open the door
and throw it off the back? It's one of those
things seems silly till you need it. My dad was
always that guy that had before we knew it was
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before we knew the term bug out bag. He had
a bug out back for us. The survivalists do these
sorts of things, you know, when you say to the
guy when you break down, Ah, you don't happen. Of
course I do, because I planned to head for this,
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and then there's everybody else that wouldn't think twice, well,
why would I have the ability to change out the tire?
Let me see what they gave me when I bought
the vehicle. Firefighters of that sort of thing, you don't
want to have to think about firefighters. Who cares about
firefighters were only firefighters. They worry about whether they're trained,
(06:17):
how many we have, whether the fire hydrants work. But
at the moment you need them. You assumed that somebody
else did worry and somebody else did take pains. Big difference,
Big difference. Rom On, you got that clip. Ktr h's
(06:38):
Morning News this morning, just before we came on the air,
played a clip talking about the cause of the wildfires
in Los Angeles, and this was with there was going
to be a fire yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
No matter what some people are like, oh is it
a gender revealed party that sparked? It was that this
was at that was at a homeless encampment. Probably one
of them was.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Play that one or done.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
There was going to be.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
A fire yesterday, no matter what some people are like,
oh is it a gender revealed party that sparked? It
was that this was at that was at a homeless encampment,
probably one of them.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Do you know what he was when he says that,
people ask him that what he means is among the
stupid things. It could have caused a bunch of people
to die because of this fire. Which one was it? Fellas,
The ladies won't listen to this, but you can. Nobody
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wants your stupid gender reveal. You don't want your stupid
gender reveal. There is a moment for every fellaw when
your testosterone level is low, you put on a little fat,
your girls pregnant, and she's like.
Speaker 9 (07:53):
Let's take pictures all day every day. Here you stand
here doing this, here, you take this, look here you
put you do this stupid thing, and you're thinking, well,
we're in love. It's okay. The fellas want mine now,
don't do that we're gonna do a gender reveal. Oh,
(08:15):
my girlfriends think it'll be great. Don't do it, Fellas,
people hate you for that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Trust me, don't do it. Lit W twenty five package
and you get it all fiberglass hood with air grabbing
scoops mid the Michael Berry fucking hood pins. Shouldsmobile escape
from the ordinary.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Last time they had a bad on Montitude down the road?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
What happened, George?
Speaker 9 (08:41):
Where body walk down.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Enough to fall and burning out of control? Here, God,
don't do the wrong thing, George.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
I was down there in about an hour. Oh man,
my mouth, you was ready.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
He's unrolling the hose when he ought not. You call
me my nephew, also named Michael Berry, is an Humble
Fire Department firefighter and at his wedding, as with every firefighter,
they play this song. But I can never think of
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this song the same. We had a firefighter who died
in the line of duty. I don't know. I think
I was on city council at times seventeen years ago
or so and could have been twenty years And at
the funeral this song is playing as they're showing photos
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of him in the course of his life, and there's
one of him and his buddy at a firefighter conference.
I find out later what the context was, and they
got their leg hiked like a dog peeing on a
fire hydrant, which was real funny at the time. If
you know firefighters, they're guys. Guys, they clown around. I mean,
(10:02):
probably nobody drinks more at a at a at the
night of a wedding. And he had died, and instead
of you know, a sad song, they played this at
the funeral with pictures of him having fun, which made
it so much more painful to watch. And I have
never forgotten that image, because when somebody dies, no matter
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how sad you are, the most painful memory is what
a fun guy that guy was. And there was that
song playing and they had such fun with They showed
pictures of this guy who was clowning around constantly, and
the idea that well, he's just not gonna clown around anymore.
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That was so much more emotionally draining to me than
if they'd played an overwrought sad song and just put
a picture up there with his birth and death date.
I could have done that. It was how much fun
he was having and now he's not having fun. Anymore.
That was hard process. We lost a firefighter yesterday day
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before five thirty am and Sunnyside three firefighters terribly burned.
Our fire chief are new far chief, first time on
the air. Welcome Chief Tom Munios.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
Thank you, Mike, thank you. And yeah, that song does
there's been around for a long time, and you're right,
it brings back a lot of memory. And that's just
a brotherhood and sisterhood we have, you know. It's yeah,
it's a great calling, it really is.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
You've had a rough couple of days.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Yes, so we have, you know, but as every you know,
I'll tell you Mike, I love this fire department and
and you know we're we have marors, very supportive and
we were all together, you know. Obviously I called him
last night on May Rest in peace. Captain Rio's from
Station one o fours, you know, had an illness and unfortunately,
(12:04):
you know he passed. But again the brotherhood and sisterhood
was there. The Mary and I were out at looking
at those three firefighters that you know, doing their job,
and that's what we do each and every day, wake up,
you know, to put our lives before others. And yesterday,
well a few days ago when we were there. It's
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just a reminder of what we do and you know,
the great men and women, men and women we have
in this fire department that just doing a freaking job eaching.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
What happened with with those three young.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Guys right now they're in the hospital, you know, and
like anything else they went in and then you know,
going into burning building is you know, there's always those
those risks every single time. And that's what happened. Is
it called the flashover. And you know, fortunately for the
the training that they have and the crew that we have,
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you know, they were able to survive. And you know,
and the I think the amazing thing the support of
the administration we had We started a rehire program, right
firefighters that had left and now wanted to come back,
and that the person firefighter who was able to turn
down the door and I'd say it literally turned down
the door, was a rehire who was able to grab
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that door, tear it off, and was able to you know,
do the tactics that were required to save those members.
So yeah, you know, and I say, you know, Mike,
it's definitely God was watching over us that day like
he does every day. But you know, it was just
everything that was done. They'd saved their lives and it
was just that whole, the whole process. But yeah, it's
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just a reminder what we do every day.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Houston Fire Department Chief Tim Munos is our guests. Are
the three of them going to make a full recovery
best we can tell.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
Yes, sure they are. Yeah, and we do appreciate this,
you know, the City of Houston's residents' prayers for that,
but they aren't going to make a recovery, yes, sir,
thanks for asking that. Mike.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
We've got some people outside the City of Houston also praying.
You're okay with that, right?
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Oh, absolutely sure.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
But yeah, they're not tax paying citizens and they're not
really in the ETJ, but they are still praying. I
just want to be clear, Yeah, you know, and you're right.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
I've gotten calls from New York and Chicago, so my
brothers and sisters out there who are keeping them in
their prayers, which're absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Correct that fire. Can you talk a little bit about
the danger My understanding as we got my understanding is
particularly hands extremities were terribly burned. Can you shed a
little more light on that.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Yeah, you know, it's like they have their their gloves
and everything, all the protective gear that we have, and
you know, it got Like I said, a flashover is
really an extremely hot fire that it just happens. The
whole chemistry takes place and everything does through erups right.
And then of course in the process of the door
behind them had had shut down, had closed, and it's
one of those old heavy doors. But the guys were
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there ready to h to make that entrance. Uh, and
the and the guys behind them that were supporting them
were able to break that door down in But it's
just it's a sign, you know, the chemistry of fire
and everything just erupted. And their gloves obviously everything has
a a a burn factor and you know, but their
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hands were burnt and uh, but you know they they're
right now at the hospital making that recovery, going through
the process of healing.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
A burn is such a terrible, terrible injury to have.
We're fortunate to have for our children one of the
greatest charitable organizations in the country, which is our Shriners,
that does so much for for burn victim children and
they have the coolest hats of any charity out there.
There's that's not even a discussion. But but our prayers
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for those guys because that is a long and very
very painful, very painful, I'm told Recovery Chief Tom Luno's
I got the message just before you came on the
air that you want to make Ramona and I honorary
captains and put a and put a pumper truck at
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our disposal at all times. And I just once you
know I appreciate that.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
Yeah, and we'll see you at the physical test.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Mike, Yeah, no worry, PT won't be a problem. Ramon
the difference. Yeah, we got this, don't worry. I did
the one day Citizen's Fire Academy, so I'm already halfway there.
Speaker 10 (16:31):
Chief.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Thank you, Michael, Wow, Mali Forina. Who is Puerto Rican Rights? When?
When us sr Czar? February twenty eighteen, we were awakened
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at five to eleven a m with an explosion in
our garage that shared a wall with our master bedroom.
We escaped with our dogs three minutes before the master
ceiling collapsed. Of the one hundred to two San Antonio
Fire Department firefighters at our home that morning, a couple
were put in charge of taking down our irreplaceable family
(17:15):
portraits and baby pictures hanging on the wall to rescue them.
That was a powerful gesture. A'malia, Yeah, yeah, I can imagine.
The reason I know she's Puerto Rican Ramon is that
(17:35):
she and her husband came on our last was it
Palm Beach? No, they came on our last Colorado trip,
our listener trip. And her husband, if he walked in
right now, you go, oh, santy Claus is here. He
does santy Claus, so he stays in Santa Claus here
round for two reasons. First, you can't exactly pace yourself
(17:58):
on how long it's gonna take to grow you santy
Claus beard. And secondly, people will hire you in March
to be santy Claus, and you're the only one got
the beard. Right. That's think about that. That's take it
where you can get it. But we had our staff
meeting because I bring a whole group at the end
(18:20):
of an evening one day and we all sit outside
on this balcony at night and we do you know
where you're from? What do you do? How did you
find the show? Blah blah blah blah, you know where
were you born? All that? And this couple, they were
so interesting everybody loved them, and they split their time
between Texas and Puerto Rico. And somebody asked, and I
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don't remember who it was. It might have been Uncle Jerry,
could have been Emily. Somebody with a kind of off
color said, you think that's extra sexy for her, that
he's santy Claus. And you know, you've had a couple
of drinks at the end of the night, you're blown
off some steam. And we decided that, you know, that's
kind of a whole different deal. You know, if you're
a firefighter, you're like, yeah, daddy's home my falls of
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fires today. You know, if you want me to wear
my uniform, my wheel right, because you don't know, you
don't know. For him, it's like, eh, well, you know
you want to set on my lap and tell santy Claus.
And we laughed and laughed and laughed at the thought
of that. Anyway, it just made me think of it
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for people who've had a fire or a flood, if
you've had everything you own reduced to rubble, it's a
very humbling experience. After Harvey, we had three feet of
water in our house, and the worst part about that
was that we had put everything from my wife's childhood
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and my kid's childhood in Africa in these cabinets downstairs,
out of the way. And the idea was they're on
the ground floor, so should there be the need for
us to get out fast, they're right close to the door.
We can grab them and the one thing we want lose,
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the furniture, can be replaced. We'll call Mack. But these
things and my wife showed up. And my wife is
not an emotional person. You can know her for forty
years and you won't see her cry. Just does not cry.
She's a very strong part. Now I'll cry at tender mercies,
you know, still Magnolias. My daddy's got die, meaning you
(20:38):
can't blame me for crying. My daddy's got die. Met
I've lived. My daddy's that diamets. I think you can't.
You gotta understand. But my mother, my wife, mother, and
my children, huh huh. And so she is the strong
one in the family. And she sat there instill a
foot of water and everything is destroyed. There's there's birth certificates,
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there's everything we owned floating in the water. It's gone.
You're not going to replace it's it's so thoroughly damaged.
And my wife is so bummed for our kids. And
she said, you know, we've lost our home. And the
boys said, quoting her, ma, our home is wherever we are.
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We can move across the street, and it just she
just oh, she says. She probably almost cried. And that's
a serious moment for my wife. She probably almost cried
at the idea that, Wow, they've listened. It's true. Our
home is where the four of us are. It's not documents,
(21:44):
it's not papers. It can't be put in a in
it can't be put behind a glass and brass, it
can't be hung on the wall. Our home is us.
That's that's who we are. A man free on bond
for murdering an Air Force airman who was on leave
in a drive by shooting. That man free on bond
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vanishes days before his trial back in September. This week,
US Marshalls, along with DPS agents, raided an apartment in
East Houston, endangering their own lives to bring him back.
We already had him, but Judge Democrat Veronica Nelson freed
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him on a bond in the first place. I like
Veronica Nelson and her loved ones to have to serve
the warrants to go get these people. I wish evil
that happens to innocent people in this city would happen
to Veronica Nelson every single time she has to sentence
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one of these people, so she'd stop putting them back
out on the streets. I wish every one of these Democrats,
George Sorows, his goofy son who looks like Lena Hidalgo's husband.
I wish every one of these Democrats, Rodney Ellis, every
one of them would have awful things happened to them
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so they would understand what we're talking about here and
they would stop this nonsense. The story from ABC thirteen.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
In twenty four and fled. ABC thirteen obtained exclusive video
of agents raiding a home on Houston's East Side that
led to Ornells's re arrest along with another person.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Right now, there are two people that are in the
Harris County jail. They're being held on connection for the
murder of that twenty twenty one murder of Albert Castillo Junior.
A third person is also in jail. She's accused of
helping one of those men go on the run and
evade police. Go ahead and take a look at your screen.
This is video that was obtained by ABC thirteen and
you're able to see a law enforcement raid of an
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apartment complex on Houston's East Side on Pope Street. The
result of that raid was the rearrast of thirty one
year old at Gio Ornellis, who was accused of the
murder and of removing a GPS angle monitor. Also arrested
a thirty four year old Onastasia Hernandez. She is Ornella's girlfriend.
That two of them do share a child. She's accused
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of helping him if a law enforcement A third person,
a thirty year old Jose Cabrera, is also charged in
the murder, but he was already in jail. He was
being held in connection with another crime. ABC thirteen spoke
to the victim's sister, who says that she's overwhelmed to
know that the accused are back behind bars.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
I'm happy, sad, I beat. Nothing's gonna bring my brother back,
but at least the peace, the peace, Well, my brother's
(24:51):
able to arrest.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
The peace.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Families did not have to suffer twice. Is that simple?
These democrats who do this, these awful bashed or democrats who.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
Do this he'll just go ahead and say it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Sorry to Michael Barry Show. Oh, I see what you're doing.
We're doing fire songs today as your firefighters Coriput, all right,
I got you. Wherever you are city of Houston, outside
city of Houston. Love it then and Tone Greenland. You
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pass a fire department today, go grab some food and
bring it to him. Nobody loves food like firefighters. Ramon,
what would be the cutoff time if you was to
if you were to bring donuts to the fire department,
what would be the time at which you're like, that's weird? Ten?
No cut off or donuts not per fire? Like you
(26:02):
know something. You said that so knowledgeably. That was funny.
Sometimes you're funny. I mean, don't there's nothing to worry about.
It killed Ricky Henderson, But I had pneumonia in November
and I still have a cough. I mean, nobody other
than me and Mary Tally Boden think it's a big deal.
(26:23):
But and my wife. But the problem is my wife
wants me to go back and see Mary Taly Boneen,
and I really don't want to have stuff stuck in me,
really really don't want to have stuff stuck in me.
Very very much do. I don't want to have stuck
in me stuff stuck in me? No serious question. What
is the reasonable time? All joking aside that you go,
(26:45):
all right, let's switch over to lunch from donuts. Eleven.
Oh I would have said ten. Okay, But you know what,
that's what I love about. You're very inclusive, very open minded. Okay,
so up until eleven. So if you're in the sound
of my voice right now, there's a station, you're at
your office. You're at your office, and go, wait a second,
I'm just down the street from sixes. Oh, by the way,
(27:08):
if you want to be an insider, say the number
of the station and make it plural. Oh, you work
over at twenties And people are like, oh, ye are
you fire? That's the way firefighters talk. If you just
get the vernacular, the lingo, the jargon of people's industry,
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then and you throw it in there very confidently, like
there's nothing and you don't wait on a response. You
just like, yeah, what whoa what he whoa?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
What do you how do you know? How do you know?
It gives you that people are like, oh, you must
have been ten years at a station. How do you know?
About sex is. Oh, I can talk about it.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
You know it is.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You know, your's vast experience doing many, many things. But
I appreciate your service. Oh wait, how do you know?
So up until you say eleven, I'm gonna let you.
I'm gonna let you run this program up until eleven,
Go get some doughnuts? Should it be Shipley's with an ass?
Should be Shipley's, all right? Not Krispy Kreme? You think
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firefighters like Shipley's all Right? I got an email from
a one yesterday. They had just had a terrible thing happen,
and the Utasca seat of Fire Department had responded and
at the end of it all, they're gonna survive, she realized.
As the firefighters were walking off, she runs her husband
(28:29):
doesn't know what's happening, and she says, there's one of y'all,
Michael Berry, Michael Berry's nephew. And they said, no, ma'am,
he's with the Humble Fire Department. And she said, how
do you know that? We all know him? And we
listened to his uncle and she said, oh, okay, I
just thought I might have had a chance to meet
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his nephew. And they chuckled and they walked off, and
her husband said, I'm not going to tell her story
what happened to them, but trust me, it was a
horrible thing that happened to them that they needed the
fire department. And her husband said, seriously, that just happened,
and you're trying to find out if one of those gus.
She said, well, you know, she emails me every single day.
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I've got people who email. The rule is you only
get one email per day. She uses her one email
per day by nine o'clock every morning. Name is Jennifer.
That's all I'll say. And so I've got little old ladies,
young women, young guys, you know whatever. I'm a routine guy,
and I can tell based on the time that emails
come in. There are people who will email at eight
(29:32):
thirty every single day, or you know, eleven oh one
when the show first goes off the morning, off in
the morning. So the morning I got it, I got
a question for you. So I'm not going to say
his name because it's a personal detail and I wouldn't
do that like Claypool. So we're playing pick a ball.
I took an hour and fifteen minutes because we had
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a busy schedule as you know, yesterday I didn't even
tell Ramon why I was leaving. I said, I'll be
back in an hour and a half because it's in
a minute home. Seven minutes back I showed up, they
were already warmed up. I don't have time to warm up, guys.
We got to play pick away. I get get back
to the studio. Was it two o'clock and it was
freezing cold yesterday, So we're out there and everything I
got shriveled up. But you know, ten minutes in you
(30:17):
move around, you're fine. And so my buddy whose name
I'm not going to mention that clipool, he tells a
story in the middle of the game.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
His son.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Was born, his youngest son and who's at the University
of Texas now his oldest son's at Georgia, and he says,
the son is born and they have the stork. I
guess in the room outside the room where you put
the name on it. We're not a traditional family because
(30:53):
my wife didn't grow up here, and I don't know
any of the traditions because we didn't have them, and
my wife didn't have them because she grew up India,
so I didn't know about this. So apparently there be
a store and you put the baby's name and wait,
and so they put the baby's name, and wait and
everything else, and the baby's name is Blake. And then
they're looking at the baby and his wife, his sweet, beautiful,
(31:17):
wonderful wife, Lorie. I don't know, I can't say her name,
never mind, says he's not a Blake. Well, what do
you mean he's not a blake? Well, you know your
wife's just giving birth. You're not gonna come to You're right,
he's not a blake. What is he exactly? He's Connor.
(31:38):
So they've got family members out in the waiting room.
I cast to get the sorry, my friend has to
get the sharpiet walk out mark through Blake. Blake was
not born seven pounds four ounces yesterday at six thirty
eight am. Connor was, and I got this is pneumonia
(32:05):
from two months ago. I should be over by now.
And so I thought I got to do one segment
on crazy naming stories. The husbands would be more likely
to call in let me tell what my wife did.
But if I could get some of the women to
call in, there's gonna be some funny stories. Well, he
(32:27):
was gonna be Ingram, you know the these names. Now,
I got a nephew named Brayden, a niece named Bailey.
My brother was into the you know, the new names
of the day instead the traditional names like Crockett. That's
a joke, but there's got to be some funny. We
looked at our baby and realized he wasn't a blake.
(32:47):
How do I said? I'm sorry? I said to my friend,
how do you know that wasn't a blake. I mean,
it's a little, it's a it's a collection of cells.
How do you know anyway? Seven one three nine nine
nine one thousand,
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