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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. Trust doct disease.
That every all mixed up? You think so. My practologist
used to be a photographer. He took X ray told
me to bend over and say cheese.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
While we didn't know that much about Joe Biden's health,
we know even less about Donald Trump's health. He was
completely untransparent during the twenty twenty three eight twenty twenty
four campaign.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
He has not been transparent.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Then we're in the midst of a presidential cover up
of Donald Trump's mental and pysical condition, and his doctors

(01:02):
are part of the cover up under his orders.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
That much, we know that much his fact.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
But it is.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Essential that Republicans especially, and I've talked to some Republicans
on the Hill, and indeed there are Republicans in the
Senate who are furious, concerned, worried about the president's mental health,
physical health, and they too want some disclosure of what
the real facts are here. But it's time for them
to step up and demand because we've never had a

(01:28):
presidential crisis of leadership such as this. We don't know
what damage may have been done. We don't know the
tests to his vital signs. We need full disclosure and
immediately the real possibility that this is a time that

(02:04):
the twenty fifth Amendment needs to be considered. This is
a cover up. It is a cover up clearly directed
by the President of the United States in his closest
aids in the White House and his family. There are
people in the national security of bureaucracy who are terribly
worried about what is going on in terms of America's
adversaries and particularly the Russians and the Chinese taking advantage

(02:26):
of this situation.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's ongoing. I believe Director.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Ray is very, very at the FBI is very concerned
about the President's health, mental and physical, and how it
is undermining this lack of disclosure the national security interests
of this country.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Company what heart disease?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
She said that he does not have heart disease.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
He seen him before the show Corny, But yes, I
think so.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Technically he has non clinical athroscotic cornary h corniathroscorosis.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Some of this, uh.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Maybe, Samantha Sanderson, I mean you've heard these terms before,
cornary athoscrosis, cornary.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Art disease, heart disease. People use these terms interchangeably.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
And you know, I think, what what the test has
shown that he does have a mild form common form
of heart disease.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Nobody else really exhausted with all of this? President, Is
he one hundred percent healthy? Is he one hundred percent healthy?
And then Trump, I'm great, the greatest, the greatest has
ever been. Nobody's healthier, I'm great. No, he can't be.
He's almost eighty, he's he's got, he's got, he got
some wrong with him. He can't be president. And then,

(04:19):
of course the obvious reply is, well, what about the
brain dead dude that you never asked a question of
that was falling over, stumbling down, drooling, fondling. What about
that you never asked about that? And then we just
go back and forth. It's so tiresome and tedious. I mean,

(04:40):
we talk about it every day. It makes makes for
entertaining talk, I suppose, but at some point it's just silly. Okay, Well, yeah,
I'm sure Donald Trump has some form of heart disease.
I doubt there's a seventy nine year old alive who doesn't.

(05:05):
I'm sure there is some form of plaque build up
in his body. How could there not be. I had
dinner with my cardiologist, Stan Dukeman last night and we
were talking about stints, and you know what exactly a

(05:25):
stint is, And you know, still, I think of a
stint as a culvert. You've got an artery that has
plaque in there, and plaque is the enemy. So you
want to go in there and stretch that thing out
and get a good flow going right, much like a
fellow that's got prostate cancer. You want to get the

(05:47):
flow going again. And is there anything more fun for
a fella than you know, when a culvert or something
a drain is clogged up and you get in there
and you bust it all loosen and it flows there,
it goes it's flowing. And he was telling me about

(06:07):
the spring loaded stints that they use now, and it
goes in as spring loaded and this balloon opens up
and it is like a pipeline through there is you
can't press in on it. And it's basically, you know,
it's it's securing that this drainage pipe is going to

(06:28):
push some blood through there. It's pretty darn fascinating. So
to ask if the president has heart disease, first of all,
he's not up for reelection. So it's not like we're
looking at his long term health more than four years
from now. Most everybody, especially by the time they're seventy nine,

(06:50):
is going to have some heart deficiency minus one hundred percent.
Year seven. I saw often I'll have something on in
the background, but I can't listen to it because we're
working in the studio and recording things. And it said

(07:12):
that his doctor had noted that he has good genes.
And then we go back to the Sydney Sweeney and
then you've got people who are professionally aggrieved and offended,
really really dumb people. And that's what we have. That's
what the entertainment of politics. Politics is not governance any longer,

(07:35):
hasn't been in some time. It is entertainment. It is sport.
It is a distraction from real life. It has replaced
for many people sports or hobbies. That's why of the
Fox News is you know, get the ratings that they do,
is because people enjoy the sport of politics and culture

(07:59):
and and that crossroads of watching these really really not
very smart people, and that if I were black, I
would be bummed out. Why don't you ever put anybody
smart and black on the air to talk about racial
issues instead of really stupid people. It's Tracy Bird. Hey, y'all,

(08:22):
if you drink, don't drive, do the watermelon crawl and
listen to the TSAR of talk my buddy Michael Berry
from the mail back and receive the email from an individual,
I will use the name John Doe, although we did
verify that this is a real person. I was diagnosed

(08:45):
with stomach cancer at MD Anderson in Houston. They recommended
chemotherapy and radiation. I saw firsthand what that poison did
to my family members. I have received more messages from
people who have told me that chemotherapy killed their loved one.

(09:10):
Cancer didn't. I'm not an expert on the subject. I'm
not sure how many doctors are to be honest, but
it sure does seem to be something that is a
common denominator of commentary on the subject that chemotherapy did

(09:30):
not help, it hurt anyway. This fellow continues. So someone
recommended rs Rick Simpson oil. The problem with that is
it has to be made with thirty percent THHC indicica strain,
which is illegal in the state of Texas. I'm not
a pot smoker by any means, I have not even
tried cannabis till three years ago when I received my diagnosis,

(09:54):
so I had to make it myself and follow the
treatment schedule. In four months, my tumor had shrunk to
one sixth of its size. I don't believe that pot
should be legalized. I'm already a part of Teacup. That's
the Compassionate Use program. The medical marijuana Texas has only
zero point three percent. It needs to be raised. How

(10:16):
can the Texas legislature limit the amount of THHC in
medical cannabis. It should be determined between the doctor and
the patient. I'm sad to say that my Republican party
was also trying to ban it. I have all my
scans and medical records. Just wanted to get my story
out there to legislator. Legislator, since I first, since I

(10:37):
have first hand knowledge, can you help me? Well, we'll
refer to him as John Doe.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Welcome to the program, sir, Hello, yes, sir, okay, tell
me first roll about your diagnosis.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
How did you come to find out that you had
stomach cancer?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Harry had problems with my stomach seven years before the diagnosis.
I was diagnosed with castroparesis. It makes you when you eat,
your nerve and your stomach that pushes the food into
your cold was dead and so it sits in your
stomach and you throw up eight to thirteen times a day.

(11:28):
And I carry that for seven I mean seven years
at that point, and so I started I'm going to
I went to hundreds of doctors and they didn't know
what to do or they just said at an upset stomach.
And I got hooked up with a doctor that specializes

(11:49):
that doctor quickly in Houston Methodists, and he did a
surgery where you go in your stomach and you shoot
that with botox and it worked. It worked for about
four years, and then I ended up with a feeding

(12:10):
two because it came back. And so doing a routine
checkup on it.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Is where they found it.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
And they referred me to m Dams. So when I
went to them, they found it right off the bat
with scans and stuff. But more importantly was so one
of the things the recommendations coming out of them was
chemo and radiation. And I have a cousin that had

(12:44):
had colon cancer and they removed his stomach, is, bladder
and everything because it metastasized and he started doing this
treatment along with the radiation and came up and today.

(13:05):
Uh So it went on for about four months, five months,
him taking the rs UP and doing the chemo and radiation,
and when it was finished. When he was finished, he
still had some cancer cells and it had come to
his lungs, but he stole he he the doctors were

(13:26):
just astounded that because he had uh it came, it
went from colon to other parts of his body. And
so he started. He stayed on the r s O
treatment and he was on it for about eight months
and right now, uh he's in remission. So I went,

(13:48):
I mean, when I got my diagnosis, uh, I just
I chose a different way. I didn't want that stuff
in my body because I've seen it doing with a
mom and other loved ones and it would just it
just I thought it was worse for them than the

(14:09):
actual cancer. And so that's why a friend of mine
told me about or it so and so me, I
got on YouTube, I got on everything, searched it on
the computer, bought books about it, everything researched it. And
what I found was if you tried to buy it

(14:31):
in California Denver, different places that it gets stopped. You
don't get it whenever they can't sell it to you
with the Texas address. So I learned how to make it.
And I don't know if y'all wanted me to go

(14:52):
into how you make it, but basically what you do
is you take I do.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Hold on remote him up. I can barely hear him.
Are you speaking right into the phone? No blue tooth,
no speaker phone? Because I can hard? Okay, Mom, could
you bring up that pace? Yes, sir, okay, talk as
loud as you can. Go ahead, tell me how you
make it?

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yes, sir. You take your bud and you take say
two ounces of bud. You put it in a grinder,
electric grinder or you're uh, some people use.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
There.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Oh, I can't remember what the name is, but you
you basically grind it down and you put it in
a glass jar and you cover that glass jar to
about an inch and a half about an inch over
which where your but bud level is. So you've got

(15:53):
a top part of the liquid a buzz. You did
take it and put it over a power bath with
pot hold on.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Just a second, hold on. It is Sevester Turner, the
mayor and a human being voila Michael Bettyshaw fellow who
emailed me and asks that his name be kept confidential.
We do not generally honor that, especially if you're offering
an opinion, because you need to stand behind your opinion.

(16:29):
But he shared his story not for the purpose of
coming on the air. I emailed him back and said,
would you be willing to come on the air and
share your story? He said, I would. Would you mind
if we don't use my name because it involves the
use of THHC medical marijuana. I would rather that not

(16:49):
be known publicly. So we did a check to make
sure he was a real person, and he is, and
we decided to honor that we do not typically do.
But we decided his name really is not relevant to
the story. It's the details of the story. So he
is diagnosed with a stomach cancer. We're calling him John Doe. John,

(17:13):
can can you go back? Okay? Ramon wants this is
called Juan do why he's okay?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
All right?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Whatever? Whatever you're distracting me, Juan, I want to go
back to that stomach cancer because I never heard of this.
You know, I understand the concept of peristalsis which you know,
you can lay prone and eat or drink something and
your body will push it down even though gravity's not assisting.

(17:39):
But I have never heard of this condition. You said
the food would sit in your stomach and it would
not continue down. What exactly is the mechanism that is
supposed to keep plunging that thing further in that wasn't working.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
It's the nerve on the bottom of your stomach. And
the disease is called gastro priess. Okay, and and and
so that nerve is responsible for pushing.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
The food.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
After it leaves the stomach into your cold and that
nerve was was damage. I'm diabetic, and that nerve was
not working no more. And so they put a they
went through my mouth, went to it, and that nerve
they would shoot up with botox and it would make

(18:33):
it make it start working. The first one they did,
it worked for about five years, and it was only
supposed to work for six months. I was supposed to
have that procedure every six months, but the first one
worked for five five years, and at the five years

(18:55):
I started getting sick again, really bad, and I dropped down.
I'm a two hundred and thirty pound guy. And I
was when I when they put me in the hospital,
I was down to one hundred and forty two.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Oh wow, and.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, and I couldn't walk, I couldn't do anything. My
mom and dad had to when I when they released me,
they had to carry me to the bathroom and stuff.
And this time, Oh, I was forty forty two forty four?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Were you married when that happened.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
I had a long term, ten year old, I mean
ten year relationship with someone I'm still with today. I
know everybody's probably saying, I all need to get buried.
And know what do you wait?

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
No, Well, how come she's not there when your stomach's
all tore up?

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Oh? She was, She was there. She was in the
hospital with me and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay, So I know this isn't the thrust of your point.
You want to get to the treatment. But I want
to understand why were you losing weight? So when this food?
So were you in it? So basically you were, believe
it right, because the only way to disgorge this food,
since you couldn't pass it through your tract, is to

(20:34):
puke it back up. So you couldn't. I couldn't get
anything absorbed into your system nutrient wise, and I suppose
you probably felt like I hate the word gird, but
that's what they call it. You probably had a pretty
nasty case of acid reflux.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yes, sir, real bad. Whenever it would start during the day,
Say I would try to eat an egg or something
like that, I would throw it up at eight o'clock
in the morning. By nine thirty, I'm throwing it up
and I don't eat anything else the rest of the
day because I'm still about the last four or five

(21:17):
times in the day that I would throw up. It
was pure acid. It would burn your lips.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's I knew somebody that was bliemic many
years ago, and she was friends with my wife and
I and we learned a lot about that as she
was going through trying to deal with that. And it
destroys your teeth. I mean, it could cause itself a
jail cancer. Those those though you know that the what

(21:48):
do they call it, that come up and burn your
your stomach. Acids are Wow, they can't dissolve a razor blade.
I think in seven years it's you don't want that
coming back. It's not meant to You got have a
back preventer. All right, so you start this treat.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
And I've already spent I've already spent twenty thousand dollars
getting my teeth redone.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Because of it. Yes, sir, have mercy, okay, all right,
and I'm sorry. What do you do for a living?

Speaker 4 (22:20):
I work for refinery for the last twenty eight years.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
And were they pretty good with you going through all this?

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Well, it kind of got bad at the end. Before
I went in the hospital the last time. For that,
they were understanding stuff like and when I have salesmen
from construct I mean from contractors and stuff, come and
see me. One of them that used to work for me,

(22:53):
he was sitting in my office and I was talking
to him, and I couldn't get my trash can out
fast enough and I ended up throwing up on the
desk and partially his clothes. And that was the end
I took. I took a six month leave of short
term disability, and that time I was in the hospital

(23:16):
for five months because of the weight loss, me not
getting I was malnutrition the whole ninety yards and so.
And then I went back to work after I got
out of the hospital after a month of being in
the hospital, out of the hospital and so and now

(23:41):
I got a feeding to. So what is happening is
with them feeding to, I can drain the acid off
my stomach on one line. One line goes to my
coal and where the bags of nutrition goes straight to
my co and bypasses my stomach.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Okay, So then how did you get into the THC
treatment and you start making that walk me through that?

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Okay, I didn't do it for the gastro parises at
this point. You know, at that point I had that
too then, So I wasn't throwing up. I wasn't doing
anything but on a routine visit for them to look
at my stomach and stuff like that, they found it

(24:37):
and it wasn't inside of my stomach. It was on
the outside and that scan picked it up and so
they burst.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
All right, hold on just a second. I don't care
if somebody do you suspects you. You can't shoot Michael.
Our guests had a horrible stomach cancer. It made life

(25:14):
almost impossible to live. And then he found a treatment
that involved th HC. So, John, why don't you take
it away on that treatment and how it helped you.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yes, sir, I was taking RSO.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Rick Simpsons, sorry, okay, okay, one Ramona's in my ear
and he's ear taking me go ahead. One m.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
I was taking the RSO treatment and it's what the
dosage is, a size grain of rits three times a
day in your mouth. And I took that for three
and a half months. When I went back to M.

(26:06):
D Anderson, they scanned me again and that tumor had
shrinked to trunk to one sixth the size that it
was in three and a half months of doing that treatment.
And I continued that treatment. They scheduled me this for
surgery to take it out, and they did, and I

(26:30):
still maintained that schedule of that or a show schedule
for two and a half months after that. And so
I took a short term disability that way I wouldn't
be getting protested and stuff like that at work. And

(26:50):
and it worked, I mean after they turned it off,
pulled it out, I didn't have any other sign My
blood work was come back good after at the end
of that six months and stuff. And uh, when I
when I went into N. D Anderson the second time,

(27:12):
I mean the third time, they asked me what are
you taking? And I tried to tell them and he's like, no,
there's no way, and they argued with me, and the
doctor said, well, you know, we can't recommend that, and
I was thinking in my head, yeah, because big Farmer's

(27:33):
painting for all the prescription and drugs cancer treatment shall do.
So it worked for me and I'm still cancer free,
and I just hate the fact that Damn Patrick is
sitting up in Austin trying to ban the stuff. And

(27:58):
I talked to my state Senator, Robert Nichols, and.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
They blew me all they don't want to hear it.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
And then I tried to call my house, Sir.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
They don't want to hear it, No, they don't.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
And then I went to my representative, which covers Chambers
County and Galston County, and they didn't want to hear it.
They both voted the bannit yep. And so I'm sitting
here thinking, you know, that's a constitutional violation. You're I'm
trying to pursue a life and you're taking that away

(28:37):
from me. You know.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You know, here is the thing. This is a very
very complex, difficult issue. So much of public policy is
good versus evil bad guys that are like rabid animals

(29:01):
that prey on people, and then they finally get caught
bashing somebody's head in Do we send them away forever?
Do we send them away for a long time or sorrows?
Do we release them back out on the streets. These
aren't complicated. The pretty easy. We can deal with these
pretty easily. But THCHC an evolving understanding of how it

(29:28):
can help some people. Just like most every other thing,
there is the capacity to abuse this drug. There's no
doubt about that, just as there is with alcohol or
for that matter, coft syrup or hair spray or food

(29:52):
or fill in the blank. These individuals do not want
to hear this because they don't want to have to
with difficult subjects. They want to make their position, They
want to take their position. They want to make their statement.
They want to shoehorn their position into how they're patriotic

(30:16):
and good and not evil and strong and smart and American.
And then you got a lot of people out here,
including veterans, for whom this is the only thing that
has given them any relief, begging please don't take this away.
Pain is a horrible thing. Suffering is a horrible thing.

(30:41):
If you could find a way to give someone a
palliative response, solution to pain and suffering. Why wouldn't you
and the idea that you could turn your back on that.
This is that dumbass lubbook Republican State Senator Charles Perry,
who Dan Patrick put in charge of this, so Rose

(31:04):
o'donald gives him the call you I'm mc ginn it,
i'mmagin it. He's asked if this was the nineteen thirties,
would you be for prohibition? And he says I probably would,
knowing what I do today because Alky Hall's bad Prohibition
is one of the stupidest positions public policy positions this

(31:29):
country has ever taken, and it costs this country dearly.
And this dumb ass in the name of supposedly being concerned. See,
this is why we lose elections. We're not gaining any voters.
Let me be clear on this. We're not gaining any
voters from Dan Patrick's position on this, just a question
of how many we lose. But all I hear every day,
I don't hear anybody going I love this band, this

(31:50):
is great. All I hear all I hear is I
won't vote for Republicans after this. Dan Patrick is an idiot.
Dan Patrick is making a stupid move, and he put
Charles Perry in charge, and like a dog that he's
told to go over here and sit. That's what Charles
Perry's doing. I don't have time to play the clip

(32:13):
in this segment, but I will the next one. He
has asked, he has asked, and you'll hear him say it.
If this was the nineteen thirties, would you be a prohibitionist?
I probably would, knowing what I do now. We got
too many people dying from regulated products. Well, first of all,

(32:33):
not one person is dying from marijuana. Not one. That
is a medical fact, that is a scientific fact. Not one,
not a few, not a couple dozen, not such a
minimal amount that we don't need to work, not one.

(32:57):
We don't need Republicans who could fit in in Iran.
We don't need Republicans clucking that everybody else is debauched.
Y'all overre having a drink before noon on Sunday, we're

(33:17):
gonna put into blue log. Y'all ought not be out
after nine o'clock. Ain't nothing good to come of it.
And y'all ought not be eat up with that dope
over there, and then you find and y'a ought not
be running around. You find out that guys like this
every time, You find out that guys like this are
hiding so many things. And then when they're busted, boy,

(33:38):
they want the forgiveness.
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