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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Very Show is on the air. Let's get out
of here, out Canada.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Canada won't be there before the son that you know
what hit him.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
The Thoughts News Decision desk can now officially project.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
That Donald Trump will be good the forty seventh president
of the United States.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
You guys know that my husband turned Republican this term.
I don't know why I threw his ass out of
the house. I think I'm going to sleep with his friends.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I think that's the only way.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
For the movement starting. We're not going to die your
hair anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
We're not going to do makeup, We're not going to
use filters, We're not gonna go get the skin stuff.
We're not gonna dress up and look nice. Why so
that they can come and act like they own us
because we look like this absolutely not know y'all. The
FOURB movement means like we gonna be cozy, comfy in
our own skin, and everyone over here is like, yeah,

(01:22):
good strapped, get ready, get prepared.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
But you know what, it's fine, let's go bring it on.
You want to fight, I'm ready to fight. There is
a highly trained professional assassin out there right now, and
you have one job. I'm a firm believer in karma

(01:49):
as well as three times a term.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
I'm saying I knows that someone in the White House
is better take their shot right now and better not miss.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
My doors are open for you. If you need a
safe house, I would purchase a clock.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
And if you and I are walking on the same
street in a starkout and you're a white male, you
have to be white for this to count. Okay, E
think if you don't approach me, I will shoot you.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, I know. Just so we're clear. Okay, little white boys.

Speaker 7 (02:16):
And more of your little white boys, I in delete
my video.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I would never do such a thing. Okay, what I say,
I mean unlike most of your friends.

Speaker 7 (02:25):
Okay, if your feelings are hurt and you're triggered, it
means you're going to hell.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
That's what it means.

Speaker 7 (02:31):
So I don't really care how you feel, and I
never will.

Speaker 8 (02:46):
Okay, So since Trump won the election, we're cooked up.

Speaker 9 (02:50):
I'm gonna be leaving the US and I'm gonna be
moving to Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
So we'll see how it goes, and I'll update you guys.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Now that we're all saying what we're thinking.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
I'm gonna go ahead and say that I think if
you would for Donald.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Trump, you're ugly.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
I think you're all freaking ugly, and I think you're
dumb as bricks.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I also not only won't care when all.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
The bad stuff that's gonna happen happens too, I actually
want it to happen to you. I want your taxes
to go up. I want things to be more expensive
for you. I want you to have a complicated pregnancy.
I want all that bad stuff to happen to you,
because that's what you deserve. Also, like, the only silver
lining is it's actually gonna suck for all you Trump
voters way more than it's gonna suck for us Blue voters,
because we actually have educations and good jobs. Y'all are

(03:28):
broke at So it's really gonna suck for you when
he raises your taxes.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
A ton is this cutting off hair.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I'm gonna have to cut.

Speaker 9 (03:34):
It short, being skinny, being hot, and all the things
that the patriarchy wants us to be because clearly they
don't give.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
A vote us.

Speaker 9 (03:43):
They're cutting it off because you That's why I'm crazy,
too crazy, just like all the women before me who
are crazy, so crazy, I will not be giving my
money to the beauty industry anymore. I will not be
giving my money to anyone that help support misogyny and
the patriarchy and keeping women down and making women think
that we need to look a certain way or be
a certain way. You women can stop dating men, stop

(04:06):
having sex.

Speaker 10 (04:07):
With men, stop talking to men, Divorce your husbands, leave
your boyfriends.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Leave them.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Now that the orange turd has won, we should now
rename America hell because it is going to be hell
on earth.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
One's face, trip everyone's rights away. That is no straight
white cys man, So buckle up.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Hope, you freaking Republicans are.

Speaker 11 (04:27):
Happy, honestly since the boy You cannot imagine how happy
we are. You cannot imagine it is so.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I am emotionally dead when it comes to politics because
I know too much about the process. I know it's
a performative art. I know they're not ever going to
do anything except for self deal and gift speeches. And
that's true in the Republican side. I never actually believed

(05:08):
these things would be done. It is so incredibly glorious.
It makes me emotional, and I always kind of look
down on people that invested that much emotion into the
political process, because I didn't believe that any of it
was real. This guy, he broke all the rules. President

(05:32):
Trump signing an executive order to protect women's sports. The
NCAA says in a statement that they will comply with
his order. Tennis great Martine Navertilova rights on Trump's order quote,
I hate that the Democrats totally failed women and girls
on this very clear issue of women's sports being for

(05:52):
females only. It is shocking that the Democrats could be
so stupid that they took the position they took and
handed this issue to Republicans. It's a ninety five to
five issue. Honestly, it's one of the few issues that
unites everybody except for a handful of freaks and malcontents

(06:16):
and white liberal women who, by the way, they weren't
sitting around thinking, you know, I hate man, I hate this,
I hate this, we need a recycle, I hate this,
I hate this, I hate this, and we should let
boys play in women's sports. They weren't doing that. It
was once that became the issue they took up and
they were attacked by Republicans. You got the angry white,

(06:39):
Elizabeth Warren women and everybody knows these crazy, crazy winches.
Once that happened, they decided with a fervor to start
screeching and crying. And I saw a headline yesterday Cynthia
Cynthia Nixon, which is one of the women on Was
It Sex and the City? She was on headline Cynthia

(07:02):
Nixon reveals her son, her sister's kids, and her friend's
kids are all trans meeting trands is less than one
percent for you to have that many. You're grooming them.
You're making them this way because you love the attention.
You wanted an issue, and here it is. Here's Press

(07:23):
Secretary Carol Lillevitt telling you about what President Trump did
twenty eight.

Speaker 12 (07:30):
So, the executive order that the President, the President will
be signing later this afternoon, as I said, upholds the
promise of Title nine. It also will require the DOJ
to abide by the nationwide previous administration's illegal Title nine
rewrite that would have dissolved single sex spaces and opportunities.
It also requires immediate action, including enforcement actions against schools

(07:54):
and athletic associations comprised of schools that deny women single
sex sports in singles.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
You think to yourself, who thought it was a good idea?
And at the Olympics you see the guy bashing that
woman up. He's a grown man beating up a woman
who thought that was a good idea. President Trump has
signed an order banning the sale of shredded cheese. Wants
to make America great again. The Michael Barry Shaw please clap, please,

(08:24):
please clap. I gave bred a second look because of
Pat Gray in around two thousand and four, two thousand
and five. Pat Gray loved bread, love.

Speaker 13 (08:51):
Bread, a damn a bread.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I didn't even know they were Mormons. Why would I say,
but that Gray loved them. I think he probably mostly
loved them because they were Mormon. That Gray is a Mormon,
is a very very proud Mormon. And I remember he
would just wax nostalgic over bread, and I'd never really

(09:17):
given much thought to him. And I think I probably
gave him a little extra attention after that, you know, Yeah, yeah,
And I do like started a buddy mine the other
day and out of nowhere talking about bands and artists
we like because I really like bread, And I said,
you don't know anything about bread. I do I actually,
do you know anything about Yeah, as a matter of fact,

(09:38):
boddily enough, I do. I do know a fair amount
about bread. But the only thing you really need to
know about bread is that they're Mormon, because that doesn't
happen very often. Remember, we're gonna go to clip number
twenty four. If this time you could be ready so
we don't have to call for it and wait and
then have that awkward moment. Through evidence, a ten year

(10:02):
old boy hurt shielding his sister from shrapnel after a
plane crashed in Philly. I don't know if you saw that.
It looks looks like a missile, doesn't look a plane crack.
Usually a plane crashing is wobbly. You can tell they're
trying to write the ship there. They're struggling to get
it all together, and it kind of mitigates the amount
of damage. This thing looked like it was a suicide mission.

(10:25):
I'm not saying it was, but this thing was hurtling
toward the ground like a missile and exploded and a
lot of damage was done. Obviously, all on board died,
but this little boy ten years old was shielding his
sister from shrapnel. He wakes up after all this happens
to ask if he had saved his sister, and he's

(10:48):
very happy to know that he didn't miss seeing the Eagles.
This is Philadelphia after all. In the Super Bowl heartwarming story,
Good Morning.

Speaker 14 (10:55):
America, investigators call me through evidence into what may have
cost that medical transport jet to crash in Philadelphia Friday,
injuring at least twenty four people and killing seven six
on board the jet and one person on the ground.
The cockpit voice recorder now in the hands of the NTSB,
and now the family of one of the survivors, a

(11:15):
ten year old boy, sharing their experience.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
That baby in there, that's birds say up like.

Speaker 14 (11:22):
That Trey Howard was seriously injured by flying debris.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Felt like it was a movie, like a horror movie.
Is that?

Speaker 14 (11:29):
Andre Howard Junior says he was picking up donuts with
three of his kids, ages four, seven, and ten when
the jet came crashing down.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
That's a whole player, right, Dear Vernieth.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Sounded like a missile, was fire and bullets metal at
my car, everyone else's car.

Speaker 14 (11:42):
Andre immediately backed up his car while his son Trey
covered his little sister, protecting.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Her outs on around.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
He has metal out the side of his head.

Speaker 14 (11:51):
A police officer rushed them to the hospital where he
had emergency brain surgery Friday that it was a strong
chance he might messle offless Lee.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
He's now awake and recovering.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Even talking, he says, thank you to everybody.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
The christ Daddy, I'm a celebrity.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
No, you're big than the celebrity.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
You're a superhero, a.

Speaker 15 (12:10):
Little superhero that has been through so much in the
last few days. To lift his spirits, one of his
favorite NBA players of seventy six ers, Tyrese Maxi, visited
him in the hospital. Trey's family says they are so
grateful for everyone to support, but most importantly to still
have their little boy.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Six out of the seven people charged in the City
of Houston water contract scam under Sylvester Turner have been
given plea deals, including Patrise, Lee's brother who she steered
more than seven hundred thousand dollars in contracts to.

Speaker 10 (12:43):
Basically four of the defendants in this criminal case out
of seven, appeared here today and accepted plea deals offered
by the state or the District Attorney's office. The big
headline is no prison time, no jail time for any
of the remaining defendants, we know we told you yesterday.
Patrise Lee accepted a ten year prison sentence for her role.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
But the only person to.

Speaker 10 (13:03):
Have any restitution included in their sentence and their plead
deal is Danielle Hurts.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
As part of her deal to plead guilty to.

Speaker 10 (13:11):
Abuse of official capacity, it's a first degree felony. She
will serve six years probation and pay fifty thousand dollars
restitution now the District Attorney's office. The prosecutor told me
that if she doesn't pay that restitution on time, those
payments that are made through an office here at the courthouse,
then she would go back to her original charges and
she could be put up for a trial because she

(13:31):
would be.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Violating the terms of her deal.

Speaker 10 (13:34):
The other defendants Andrew Thomas, he.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Is Patrice Lee's brother.

Speaker 10 (13:38):
He accepted a plea agreement that has him serving three
years probation eighty hours of community service time, and the
others are all accepted. They pleaded guilty to misdemeanors, dropping
down their felony indictments of bribery to a misdemeanor that
is just gifts to a public servant and that includes
Taisha Coleman, Houston, at olmin Iro Castillo, and Joseph Neary.

(14:02):
There is one defendant remaining in this case. That is
Frank Perkins. He is another contractor. He owned CSC Connections.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
He is supposed to.

Speaker 10 (14:09):
Appear here tomorrow to accept or not accept any deal
that the state is offering him.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Kim Ogg was on k tr h's Morning News today.
She was set to talk about two of the three
Lena Hidalgo staffers who in their case. The last left
was Alex Triantophlos, who is scheduled for court today, and
she brought up that she thinks he will get a

(14:39):
plea deal as well, So scam the taxpayers and I'll
make a lot of money if you ever get caught
take a plea deal. Well, what kind of message are
we sending? What kind of message in these cases are

(14:59):
we sending to people that there will ever be any accountability?
Because there is not. There simply is not. And there's
Sylvester Turner.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
In Congress, Marvin Agamagara.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
After everything that guy did, It's the Michael Barry Show.
The listener emailed and said, I'm mean, you don't do
I truly believe any loon It wasn't a regular recurring segment.
It was just on on the spur, but it seemed

(15:38):
like a good time We should probably do and I
truly believe so we'll take your calls now. Seven one
three nine nine nine one thousand and seven one three
nine nine nine one thousand. You will remember that President
Trump sued CBS after they did an interview with Kamala
Harris on sickixty minutes, and that interview was then selectively

(16:06):
edited to take out the parts where she was the dumbest.
We knew it was bad when Trump demanded that they
release the transcript and they refused. Why would a news
agency refuse to release the transcript, the written version of

(16:32):
an interview, the video portion of which they had already released.
That's weird. Usually, you want everybody to read your interviews,
You want them to circulate everywhere, except that to release
the transcript, you would either have to release the exact

(16:56):
facsimile of what aired, or you would have to release
the edited or the the interview in full, which somebody
could read along while watching the interview and realize you
basically let her campaign edit the interview. You have zero credibility.

(17:19):
You want to know why nobody trusts you because of
this right here. Well, as part of the lawsuit, Cemis
has released the raw, unedited footage of the interview with
Kamala Harris. And I'm not exaggerating when I tell you
it's worse than you would have thought. I if you

(17:43):
thought she sounded like a dumb dumb in the interview,
you have no idea what they cut out. And by
the way, by doing so, she sat down, dumb dum
that she is. She left and they said, oh God,

(18:05):
if people know she's that dumb, they won't vote for her.
So you would think that you would say, all right,
well the show airs on Sunday, people are not going
to know how dumb she is. But their answer was no, no, no, no,
no no, we will hide it because we want her
to get elected despite being a dumb dumb. Now think

(18:27):
about that form, think about what those people want for
this country, and that tells you everything you need to know.
Ramon is an I truly believes, are truly ken? What

(19:10):
do you truly believe?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, Michael, I truly believe the uh this, this this
business attacking Elon Musk was saving us money has gotten
to be a personal thing. And uh and anybody who
would who would disfuse.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
That must have a personal stake in this money that's
going overseas.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
And I just wonder how much of that money is
coming back to the Democrat Party.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Until the A lot, a lot, and we're only going
to see more. We found out yesterday that Politico, a
supposed journalism organization in the United States, received eight point
one million dollars. I saw one chart that showed funds
flowing into Chelsea Clinton's Tiede s Foundation foundation for over

(19:58):
seven hundred million million dollars. The New York Times received money,
Bill Crystal received money. Lindsey Graham was associated is associated
as the director on an organization that is receiving money.
The more you see, the more grotesque it's going to grow.

(20:19):
There are a lot of people hoping that their hand
won't be caught in the cookie jar because they know
they've been receiving all this money. Patrisha, what do you
truly believe?

Speaker 16 (20:32):
I truly believe that rolling luggage is what ruined airline travel?
Why because it used to me, you go to the airport,
you had the lug all your stuff right, so you
didn't you pack too much? You didn't. You didn't try
to overdo it. You took your luggage and you just
cruise to your.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Gate, just relaxed.

Speaker 16 (20:53):
Now everybody wants to self all their packages that you've
got to go through security and you got to carry
all your stuff. Then you got to make sure you
get everything in that overhead compartment, and nobody has enough
to face for it. And it just used to be
so much better when people would just take what they
needed and not try to cram everything in.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Point Patricia, are you do you work in the industry.

Speaker 9 (21:16):
I do not.

Speaker 16 (21:17):
You're just a traveler and I don't even travel that much,
probably because.

Speaker 9 (21:20):
I don't like it that much.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
But yeah, yeah, no, it's You've hit on one of
my one of the things I'm very interested in. And
I think you're right. I'm fortunate that my wife is
anti luggage. You think it shows a lack of discipline
for people to bring their entire house with them. But
I see these people and it's always the woman, And

(21:43):
in a lot a lot of these women who kind
of fancy themselves sort of influencer wannabes. They look and
act like Kim Kardashian, and they're dressed to the nines even,
and there's their poor kids over there like, well, I
guess no time. Mama didn't have any time for us,
and her husband's over there they get boy, this is
really over the top, and they're lugging. I mean, they've

(22:04):
got a house with them. It's the Beverly Hill Villages
and you're just thinking, my goodness, you're going away for
two years. What are you doing. And the other one
is the people who bring onto the plane an item
that is clearly too large for the overhead compartment. And
it blows my mind because it's a battle. They're ready

(22:28):
for the battle from when they go past the gate
when they get on. There's no room for the If
everybody did what they did, then there would be no
room for anything. And in many cases it won't even
fit in the overhead even if there's nothing in there already.
It's the ultimate self centeredness. It's the ultimate nothing. Nobody

(22:49):
else matters. The rules don't matter, the sense of shared
space don't matter. And I think what it would help
is if just one time somebody stood up and punched
that in the mouth and he go, you know, everybody
will know, now don't do.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
That and get involved fiberglass hood with air grabbing scoops.

Speaker 14 (23:06):
With them, Michael Berry fuckinghood.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Dens Shoosmobile Escape from the Ordinary Markets. I get an
email report every morning from David Malesby at Camp Hope
of somebody that's done something nice with their treasure or
time for Camp Hope. Some of them are whoppers of

(23:31):
amounts of money. Weatherford Corporation gave I think a quarter
million dollars at one point. Russell Lebarro has given hundreds
and hundreds of thousands, and he writes checks off of
a dish that they sell and two dollars for each.
The Plateau Soldado goes toward it and different people do
amazingly big things. And some people come every you know,

(23:52):
Tuesday and spend four hours in volunteer. It's amazing at
what everyone does. Today's was that Rich Edie, the owner
of a Birds Unlimited, visited the campus and he brought
an autograph copy of a book called Ornotherapy or Your Mind,
Body and Soul, signed by the author, and it's a

(24:14):
book about what they call mindful birding, how obsessing over birds,
watching birds, focusing on birds has been in many cases
a path toward a healthier mindset. And a calmer mind,
which is just a goal here. So Rich Eadie surveys

(24:35):
the five acre campus and developed a scheme of plan
schematic to install bird feeders and he's going to provide
the bird food at no cost so the guys would
have it. And I say that because war is an
awful thing, or so I've heard. And when these guys

(24:55):
go and come back, they pay for that for the
rest of their lives. And you might be surprised. There
may be something you can do for these guys that
can help them to heal. And only you know what
that is. So and if that is the case, email
me and I'll connect you with with David Molsby. And
if you want to support wild Birds Unlimited, we spend

(25:15):
a lot of time watching birds in our backyard and
it is one of our great joys to be steal
and relax and enjoy God's beautiful nature. Seven and three
nine one thousand. It's and I truly believe Will Starts

(25:38):
are truly.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
We should start with Bill because he's eighty one going
on eighty two, Bill, what do you truly believe?

Speaker 6 (25:55):
I believe that.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
If we lost Bill Joy, what do you truly believe.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Oh, I truly.

Speaker 17 (26:03):
Believe that Michael Berry and your wife, your beautiful wife,
are like the Donald Trump and millenia of Eastern Oh that's.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Very sweet to say, Mary, What do you truly believe?
I truly believe that there are so many people that
think they are the exception to the rules. And I
also truly.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Believe that Michael Berry is ninety nine point nine.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Percent right all the time.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oh that's rush Limbaugh numbers. Wow, we haven't had them
audit it in a while, Michelle, what do you truly believe?

Speaker 3 (26:40):
I truly believe American people are winning?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Oh? Wow, did you ever I told a friend of
mine yesterday? He said, are you enjoying this? I said,
I don't want to make light of this answer. I
never believed this day would come. I didn't. We were
packing around the edges, we were making incremental gains one
step forward and two back, but just we had to
fight because the fight was where I never believed we

(27:05):
would get to this awesome state, Cliff, what do you
truly believe?

Speaker 13 (27:12):
I truly believe that if you looked up Jeffrey f
State and P Diddy's guest list get fined, ninety nine
percent of the people they are grabbing about the country
out down to getting.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Money off of the Democrats, and to imagine what they
were doing. Imagine there's no doubting that you know what
you're up to when you hop a plane and go
to a private island to engage in sex with an
underage child. There's no doubt that you got snooker or

(27:47):
that she lied about her a. You went to great
pains to put yourself in a situation where you could
get away with this horrible crime. You took in infredible
effort to do that, and that shows a mental state
which is important in the eyes of the law. That

(28:08):
shows a mental state that is severe and file. Let's
go to Derek, which Ramon has spelled d E R
I K. I think I've seen it all now, Derek,
you're up.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I truly believe that the Left is both brilliant, sinister
and evil and how they're able to group these coalitions
together that work in there and say groups worst interest
i e. Women and black folk. Women with the trans
issue and black folk with the immigration and birthright citizens
citizenship issue.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Derek, are you black?

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I am, Ramon, how come you do to put on
the black line how do you spell your name.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
V E r i Q?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (28:59):
What d e r i Q?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I heard you, Derek. That's the craziest spelling of Derek
I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, have you ever? Have you ever seen the Arabian
spelling of say l q?

Speaker 13 (29:15):
Where?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
So just the a l apostrophe Q. That's where it
comes from, Is it really?

Speaker 16 (29:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
If it's more of a street name. What do you
do to tell you the story of it offline? You
a laugh?

Speaker 2 (29:29):
What do you do for a living, Derek?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
I work for him instality?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
What do you do for them?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
I do the testing and uh, you know that sort
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
The water to you called the show before. It's been
a long time, but you've called the show.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, sir, I think I.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Remember which minsicipant. I don't want to get you in trouble,
how about that?

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yeah, that's why I don't say.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know, I'm fascinated by people like you, Derek.

Speaker 10 (29:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Thomas Soul has written a a lot about it. Here
has a book called Black Rednecks.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
The Great Thomassola. He changed my life. First book.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
And what made you read that book?

Speaker 3 (30:13):
I was in the military and I was on the
carrier and uh, and I couldn't sleep. We were working
a lot, I mean, and I just put to the
library to kind of slow brain down. And I found
two books. One book I can't remember the name of it,
but it was on systems of Government, and I found
Thomas Ould and both changed my life. Really, I changed

(30:35):
my belief system. Really. So you reading this, yeah, Well,
I would read in the library because we were working
a shift of eight on, eight off, and so so
sometimes you couldn't sleep. You would get in something and
you'd be up for days. Uh, And so I would
read in my book. I would read in the library.

(30:57):
I mean, I always had a book. I even took
a book on watch, even though you didn't get much
time to read on watch doing what we was doing.
But the book on systems of Government changed my perception
on private versus public and capitalism, you know. And I
put socialism, communism, fascism under the heading of Marxism. But

(31:21):
you know, the differences between each and how they affect corporations,
how they affect people, how they affect society, education.

Speaker 8 (31:28):
All that, and it just, you know, it just enlightened me.
I was only nineteen or twenty at the time. So
it broadened my just let's just say it broadened my horizons.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yes, but you had to be willing to go to
the library and check out a book. In order to
receive that information. You had to make yourself a willing
special What a great story there to
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