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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, Luck and Load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
The superintendent of schools in Iowa, in the largest school
district in the state. It turns out it is a really,
really bad guy. It turns out he's in the country illegally.
He insisted he be called doctor as if he has
a doctorate, but he doesn't. He was making over three

(00:43):
hundred thousand dollars in a job in a country where
he's not even authorized to work. He was found with
a gun he's not authorized to carry, three thousand dollars
cash and a very very question a set of circumstances
that landed him where he was. How on earth did

(01:05):
this happen? Oh and by the way, he voted in
twenty twenty four, As it turns out, a lot of
illegal aliens vote. Don't believe me. Charlie Colleen is the
Texas state director of Americans for Citizens Voting and he's

(01:26):
our guest. Welcome to the program sir.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
So, first of all, tell us what Americans for Citizens
Voting is.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yes, So, Americans for Citizens Voting is a nationwide movement
to make sure that only US citizens are voting in
all elections.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I didn't expect you to answer so succinctly. You would
be a great guest in deposition A great depots and
so you know, the average person says, well, of course,
you have to be a American to vote in American elections.
Why do we need this organization?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, this is the thing. So many states are what
you would call home rule states. And in a home
rule state, a local government municipality they can choose who
votes in their elections. So they could say, hey, anyone
attending or anyone within our school district is allowed to
vote in our local elections. And so we're founded with

(02:28):
the core mission to make sure that only US citizens
are voting in all elections.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
So well, I'm going to ask some very basic questions
to establish as facts. There are parts of this country
where the local where the municipality home rule municipality is
aware that illegal aliens are voting and perfectly comfortable with that.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Correct. So San Francisco, Chicago, Washington, these are some big
cities that allow non citizens to vote in their elections. Currently,
Texas is a home rule state. So Prop sixteen, if
it passes it would clarify that only US citizens can
vote in all of Texas's elections, and that is on

(03:19):
the ballot win November of this year.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
And so Proposition sixteen would enshrine citizen only voting in
the Texas Constitution this November. That would mean that if
some communist city like Austin wanted to have wanted to
allow it legal aliens to vote, they would not be
allowed to.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Do that, correct, And we think it's really important that
it shows up in the constitution that way. It's enshrined there.
I mean, citizenship is really a privilege, and with that
comes voting. We really believe that people take a longer
term view on their country, on their state when they're
a citizen versus just being a guest. So we just

(04:00):
feel it's very crucially important that this is enshrined in
Texas's constitution.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Just reading from the pages of your own site, is
non citizen voting allowed in the US. In nineteen ninety six,
the US Congress passed the law prohibiting non citizens from
voting in federal elections such as US House, Senate, and
presidential elections. Federal law did not address state or local elections.
As of May of twenty twenty five. Just a few

(04:26):
months ago, Washington, d C. And municipalities in three states California, Maryland,
and Vermont allowed non citizens to vote in local elections.
And then you show a map of where that is.
Do you have a sense of how much of a
difference that has made in say San Francisco elections or
Chicago elections. What percentage of those voters are non citizens?

(04:47):
Is that possible for you to know?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, I mean, ultimately, what I believe is everything you said.
So it's not clear who can vote in these local
elections based on that federal law. So fifteen states have
already passed citizens only voting amendments, and that's why we
feel it's really crucial to make sure that only US
citizens are voting in all of these elections. And here's

(05:12):
the thing. I mean, if you're in this country and
you're not a US citizen, ultimately you're a guest. You
wouldn't go over to someone's house as a guest and
tell them how to rearrange their furniture or change the
art on their wall. And with these crucial decisions that
really are based on choosing the leaders or deciding on policy,

(05:33):
it should only be US citizens voting in these elections.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's crazy that we even have to have this conversation.
I mean, I can't imagine going to China and casting
a vote in their elections. I mean, I can't imagine
that any Chinaman would think that would argue to other Chinamen, No, no, no,
he should get to vote here, even though he has
nothing to do with the country. It's crazy to me

(05:58):
to think, So, what effort, what are you making? Obviously
proposition sixteen, How did this start, Who's been behind it,
what does it look like? How would it be enforced?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, that question that you brought up, or I would say,
like saying, why is this an issue? I can't believe
we're having this conversation. I have that all the time.
It took over three years in the Texas Legislator to
get this passed, two legislative sessions. So I mean, we
really needed to do a good job at convincing Democrats

(06:29):
in the state legislator to see the wisdom in passing this.
And I mean, this isn't a question of immigration. This
is purely a question of citizenship and voting. So, I mean,
it was a very big legislative campaign to get it
through the Texas Legislator, one of the only states actually
where the Republicans didn't control both the House and Senate

(06:50):
with super majorities. So we're very optimistic. I mean, when
you look at the polling on this, over eighty percent
I believe of Texans are in favor of this, So ultimately,
coming election day, I do think will be successful. But
really the most important thing right now is getting the
word out and letting people know it's going to be
on the ballot. I believe there's seventeen questions on the ballot,

(07:11):
seventeen proposals, so we've got to make sure people go
all the way down to Proposition sixteen and vote yes.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah. The challenge isn't going to be winning the hearts
and minds of the people who show up to vote
in favor of Proposition sixteen. The problem is going to
be getting people to actually show up. I think we
can win the hearts and minds that yes, Proposition sixteen
is a good thing. My concern is getting people to
vote when they don't see anything else of interest on

(07:42):
the ballot. And we will have a contested congressional race
right here in Houston in the Congressional District eighteen, Shila
Jackson Lee's old seat that then Sylvester Turner held for
a moment. And so there will be Democrats showing up
to vote, and we know that they tend to get
this issue very very wrong. Charlie, I am delighted to

(08:05):
know that you're out there. I am delighted to know
that Americans for Citizens voting is out there and that
you're doing good work when no one else is looking.
And I encourage folks to learn more about what he's
doing and support this effort.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Right, I'm Gila Chelae.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
The Michael Very Show.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
You merely adopted the doc.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
I was bording it.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
So John Wayne mccorny has hit the airwaves with a
big buy out of DC. Because if the Swamp can
spend enough money, they can convince enough of you to
send somebody back who works against your interests. That's the play.

(08:55):
So anybody you know that it's for cornying, just under
stand they are as stupid as the swamp thinks they are.
And to be clear, we have neighbors who are that stupid.
We have neighbors that kral Rove can push a button

(09:17):
and they will take some act that Karl Rove wants
them to take and think they did it of their
own volition. It's the craziest thing. And the worst part is,
you know these people, they're not necessarily bad people. If
they could actually see what John Wayne mccornyn is doing,

(09:40):
they'd be shocked. But you can't convince them of it
because they're the nice guy neighbor and they think he's
a nice guy too. Some coins and a nice guy.
He looks like a senator straight out of Central Castle.
You gotta be a good guy, God be Why do
you say that? Well, there was a Chamber of Commerce

(10:02):
lunch for Bear County a couple of months ago, and
I went and he spoke and he seemed I mean,
he seemed good, really really at the Bear County Chamber
Commerce lunch where he spoke, he seemed good. Okay, just

(10:24):
so I'm I'm I'm clear. What what about him seemed good? Well,
he was tell you what you should have heard it.
I was actually wishing you were there, Michael. Why. He
was talking about the Democrats and and he said, I
don't know if it's true, but he said Biden was
practically dead when he was president. He like, they wouldn't

(10:46):
tell anybody, but he was. He was practically dead. And
the Democrats, he said, that auto pen deal, he said,
that's legitimate, that they really did that. They that Biden
didn't know what was going on and they were they
were doing. That's what he said. And you know, I mean,
I gotta figure he knows what he saw about. You

(11:07):
know what I'm saying, Oh, okay, so he's we're gonna
reelect him on that basis. Well, I'm just saying, you know,
I'm I mean, you know, Paxton's you know, past is
no saint. You know he knows saint. But isn't that
what they did to Trump from sixteen? Don't you remember
grabbing them by the hoho do? Don't you remember Egen Carroll?

(11:32):
Don't you remember Republicans saying that Trump couldn't be our
nominee because he couldn't win in November because he wasn't
married to his high school sweetheart. Remember he was a
bad guy. Remember he'd been ahead of the Miss America
pageant and so you know there had to be something there,

(11:54):
and he'd been divorced more than once. We couldn't be
Christian and vote for him. Remember remember how that worked. Well,
John Wayne mccornan is a robot programmed by the establishment
out of DC to do what he is supposed to do.

(12:17):
Who's running ads on how close he and Trump are, Well,
there's a lot of things John wayn mccorny could say
that I wouldn't say he's lying about that is a lie.
Trump does not like him. And by the way, he
doesn't like Trump. It's easy, very easy to find, very

(12:39):
easy to find all the references that he made to
Trump shouldn't run in twenty twenty four posts. We're not
talking about twenty sixteen. Here, we're talking about he didn't
want him to be president right now as of last year.
How did he all of a sudden see the light

(13:01):
and become just just love Trump, just here to support Trump.
Y'all like Trump and so does he. Yep, we're all
in this together. We love Trump. I'm here, I'm fighting
for Trump ninety nine percent. You know why they had
to put the number ninety nine percent because the perception
is that he votes against Trump on everything. He doesn't

(13:24):
have to. When they name a post office for somebody,
he'll agree to that. So here's all we ask if
you voted against Trump one percent of the time, that's
not very many. Let's lay that out. Let's see what
that one percent looks like. So he's running ads and
how close he is with Donald Trump? And that's a joke.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
John Wayne mccarneh is ready to trump the competition. Ye hauled,
giddy up, and let's go Texas. This's the old boy,
John Wayne McConney. Together with my right hand man, mister
Donald J. Trump, we'll take all those lack of days
ago looney lefts together. That's right. I just got off
the phone with mister Trump's assistant to his second assistant

(14:07):
at mar A Lago, and I may or may not
be playing golf with the President this weekend, whether his schedule,
family allegations, and mood pending. Now, after this possible golf outing,
I could possibly, maybe but not likely, be joining him
for dinner to destroy the evil of our country in
our great state of Texas. That's right, my fellow Texans.
As I've been told him many a time, Trump and

(14:28):
mccorn go together like Rosie o'donald and a chip membership. Hi,
look at this, boys, John Wayne mccornan actually read that
Rosie line. My name's John Wayne mcconnyn. I've been licking
the moot straps of Donald J. Trump for a few
months now, and I shamelessly approve of this message. What

(14:52):
elt you want?

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Right? What do you want? You want to?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Michael Berry?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Just to say the word and I'll throw a glasshole
on it, pug down.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Donald Trump played Mario Hotson music at the White House
for Hakeem Jeffrey's visit to troll him, and we approved
very much. That's just the kind of sophomoric, in your
face humor that we need more of out of a president.
My goodness alive, Randy Rights, I like your saucet. No,

(15:31):
I just kidd Randy Wrights. Michael. On my way home
from Inez yesterday about eight thirty am, I and all
of southbound traffic was stopped by DPS at the exit
from the southbound rest stop to allow four to eight
flatbed eighteen wheelers carrying two armored personnel vehicles each, followed

(15:53):
by ten to fifteen two and a half ton military
troop transport vehicles, all O D Green brand new vehicle
with Mexican military logos on the doors. Mexican drivers in
od uniforms, all escorted by DPS, marked and other unmarked
suv with emergency lighting similar to DPS. The caravan was

(16:14):
about a mile long when I turned off at the
Victoria exit. Very well organized. I was very surprised, to
say the least, obviously headed to Mexico via the Rio
Grand Valley or west of there. You may have addressed
this issue already on the show. This was all new
military equipment. Let me know, saludos a ramone your friend

(16:35):
Randy in Inez. What which part saludos? That's just you know,
like a toast. He's toasting you. Yeah, it's just a
little toast to you. Oh, huge one. I wanted to
get to No, no, no, I do that story letter.
I do that story letter. We get into that story

(16:56):
in just moments. Oh there's a clip I want to play,
but I don't know if I have enough time in
this segment. That's what I'm battling with. I'm thinking thru Czar,
Your topic today made me laugh. I always sent notes

(17:18):
to my husband in his lunch, not every day, but
many days. They were I'm proud of you because thank
you for YadA YadA, and even some that were a
little bit racy. I'm gonna do this to you when
you get home. Sometimes they were just lipstick prints and

(17:39):
and I love you heart. I always figured he just
threw them away with his lunch. Well, he passed away
unexpectedly at fifty two. I was so surprised when I
found in his bedside table every note that I had
ever sent in his lunch, even a napkins I wrote on.

(18:03):
So Yes, your topic today made me smile. Thank you, cheers, Kelly.
I'm gonna tell you something. When you bury somebody who
is dear to you, we say barry. A lot of
people cremate now, but I'll say barry. For the purposes

(18:25):
of somebody dying, there's a real odd thing that happens.
And those of you who buried your spouse, I'm sure
it's got to be worse, or your child, I cannot imagine.
But when you bury someone close to you, there is
a surreal tends to be the only word we use

(18:46):
for a whole wide range of things, because I don't
think we have the vocabulary for another one, nor do I.
But there is something, and I don't know the right
word to describe this emotion or this fear feeling, and
it's not that you're bawling. It's not that you're you
can't keep it together. It's just it's almost an uneasiness,

(19:12):
but not an uneasiness in necessarily a terrible way. There
is a very odd feeling when you bury someone that
you love and you go back to their space, you
go back to their bedside stand, you go back to
little mundane things, or even in some ways more odd,

(19:33):
you go back to the sink where they brush their teeth,
and you see their things, and it takes on a
whole new meaning, and it's almost indescribable because in some
ways it's extremely profound and in some ways it's extremely mundane.

(19:56):
And maybe that's what makes this moment, creates this this
uneasiness as to this space and what this space means,
because this space is from a physics perspective, in our
physical world, simply pieces of plastic, you know, formed into

(20:19):
a cup holder and a rod that has bristles on
the end. There's a toothbrush and a tube that has
some National Conglomerates product in there, and and then there's
there's a hair brush, which is just a bunch of plastic.
But that was their stuff, and that was what they used,

(20:42):
and part of you thinks, my goodness, I'm in the
presence of that person. That person is here. This was
their life, this was their life, this is where they stood,
this is the actions they took, this is how they
did them, this is this is the the essence of
that human being. And then part of you thinks, yeah,

(21:05):
but realistically, did those things really matter to them at all?
That's just the things that happen to be beside them
as they're going through their lives, and so you go
searching for things that were of meaning. You know, the
chair they love to sit in. For my brother, it
was his truck and his console, and I used to

(21:26):
One of the irritating things I do with friends of
mine is I have a theory that people carry too
much junk in their wallet. And so I will say,
you know, I bet you have a bunch of wasted
stuff in your wallet. And if you're a person who says, look,
I want to have a bunch of wasted stuff in
my wallet, so be it. I'm not a person to

(21:47):
bother you about it. But I think most people just
have become kind of a hoarder with their wallet don't
even realize it. So I'll say, I pull out my wallet,
which I take great pride in. It's two credit cards
and a in an ID, and it's the thinnest thing possible,
so I can put it in my back pocket. You
can hardly tell I have anything in my back pocket,

(22:08):
because I read an article years ago about back problems
from the wallet, and I'll say, I bet you've got
thirty things in your wallet that are wasteful.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Ah, So all.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Right, pull it out. And I always ask, you know,
is this going to get uncomfortable, like you know, some
dude's rubber is going to fall out, like we're in
tenth grade? But I ask, and then I take things
out and they'll there will invariably be five or more
frequent user cards for a company that doesn't exist anymore.

(22:38):
Don't think we're going to need our Blockbuster card anymore?
Pretty sure we're good on that one. Can I throw that? Yeah?
And at this point it gets to be kind of
an embarrassment. Okay, Well, here's a frequent user card for
a fried chicken joint in Louisiana and you haven't lived
in Santamon in twenty years yet. Can I go ahead

(23:00):
and throw that? Yeah? Okay, here we have the assistant
manager at Hurts. Uh, this car looks like it's been
in here for ten years. Oh shoot, I forgot about that.
They had They had claimed that I wrecked the car
and I didn't. In that manager, she was willing to
help me, and so will we handle that issue? Yeah, okay,

(23:21):
so we So we're three for three already. Things. We
don't need to be hauling around all thing. How long
you've hauled this thing around? He might get drunk.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Say no, I'm just having.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
He might Hey not that sums that donte Yeah, walk
walk walk. You can't get it?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yes, say.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's way worse than what you play. Listener Daniel wrote,
I don't know if it's really mariachi, but I'd eat
some Mexican food to this. Well. Recently we had Roy

(24:59):
marshma friend from Everyone's Internet on and eventually AOL would
dominate the field. But of course the times they are
a changing and change is the only constant constant. And
so we have some very bad news to report. The

(25:21):
grandfather of the Internet world, AOL dial up Internet that's
passed away. Who in the hell was still using AOL
dial up Internet? Apparently somebody was, because the announcement has

(25:42):
come that they finally shut it down, and somewhere some
ted Kazinski out in the little cabin is real bummed
out because his solar crank and his stolen dial up
Internet access is more. So, please bow your heads with me,

(26:04):
and let's take a moment to honor the once great
actually just sort of average at best. AOL dial up
Internet rest in peace.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Friends. We are gathered here today to honor a fallen pioneer.
It wasn't the fastest, it wasn't the prettiest, but good
God on Matty, it was ours. I'm talking about.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
The AOL dillar be lant born in the days of
pages and Tamagotchi's laid to rest sometime between you Got
Mail and Netflix and Chin. We remember the sound that
glorious screen squawk, robot making car I got too D
two being strangled with the czine, the national anthem of

(27:03):
the late nineties, A sound that met you was seconds
away from checking your hotmail, printing out a map, quest
directions to Grandma's, and hoping that no one in the
house is going to.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Pick up that phone. We remember the chat rooms, oh yes,
the chat rooms. Where asl was our declaration of independence,
where we all became poets, we became philosophers, and lord,
we don't become liars. Yeah, I'm like totally eighteen stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Totally blind.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
No, I'm not sitting in Mom's basement in dunk a
ruse Marpara made for frankfa Oh. We remember the AOL
CDs mailed every American household, whether he one of them
or not, shiny coasters promising five hundred three hours, and
by nineteen ninety eight AOL and distributed so many CDs
you could tell your kitchen backsplash with them, and some

(27:55):
of us did ylt.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
We remember the buffero Oh, the written images loaded like
a polaroid stuck in molasses, watching half of Pamela Anderson
jpeg load line by line like the world's slowest strip tease.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
A single picture could take three family arguments and our
hot pocket to finish. We remember aim away messages, song lyrics,
cryptic breakup quotes, and b RB bathroom. They were the
Facebook statues of their time. And if you're lucky, your
crush left a message that made you wonder if maybe
it was about you. And yet, even in its flowers,

(28:35):
AOL dial up gave us something It gave us the
patience of the saints, the cunning of the thieves, the
courage to tie up the family phone line for three
straight hours, knowing full well Dad was expecting get important calls.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Son, I want to beat that butter of you on that.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Dial with me. So today, as we lay AOL dial
up to rest, let us not mourn what we've lost,
to celebrate what we've gained.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
You've got mail, the memes, the chat handles, the glorious
lies about being away while actually sitting right there refreshing
your friend's list. Rest in peace, my good friend, Aoil,
for though you were gone, your ghost lives on. Every
time Wi Fi drops during a zoom call and we

(29:22):
all hear your faint whisper goodbye.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Well can you hear that sound?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Now, I'm gonna let the Diva doves take us home.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
We waited patiently through that down tome book, collecting hot salt.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
That age sure, he swelled.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Shee beef was a prayer in disguise.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
Building dreams on the pixel. Latest Scots Chicago emergency room
doctor's gone viral on TikTok for revealing the craziest object
he's removed from a patient's.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
But ready for this one. It was a desk top
candle jar, and of course the flavor pumpkin spice.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
I don't know what it is, but whenever I tell
people I'm an emergency room doctor, they always ask me
two things. What is the sickest thing You've ever seen?
And what's the weirdest thing you've ever pulled out someone's butt?
I see a lot of it. People come in with
stuff up the butt.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I see.

Speaker 8 (30:26):
One of the most memorable ones was a guy came
in whose complaint was personal problems, which I always know
is going to be usually butt stuff. I go in
to see him and he says that he and his
girlfriend got a little crazy last night or maybe two
days ago, put something up there and he can't get
it out. I said, you know what, no judgment, I

(30:48):
get it. This was a Yankee candle and I'm not
talking about just the little baby one. I'm talking about
the desktop jar and not just the top, but the
whole damn thing. So I stopped asking questions like how'd
you get it up there? Or what were you thinking?
Because it's not important. The question now becomes how do
you get it out? And really, for things that are

(31:09):
really big. You can't just reach up there and grab
them and pull them out because the suction causes a
vacuum to pull it back in. So really the treatment
is to paralyze them in the operating room with anesthesia
like you would for an operation, although you don't operate
on them, but it requires critical care, anesthesia, intubation, putting
them on a ventilator. You'd give them medication that relaxes

(31:32):
every muscle in their bodies so you can go up
and grab it, you know, and an er. We always
like to guess things like hemoglobin levels and alcohol levels
and things like that. This time I won the bet
pumpkin spice.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
It was October.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
It was easy.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
So when Kunda sent that around, he said, this just
goes to prove that pumpkin smut spice smells like ass,
to which Jim Mudd responded, you have your head up yours.
And we've had something of a raging debate going on
all morning as to whether pumpkin spice smells like ass

(32:13):
or not. And I feel like we've gotten away from
the fact that a dude put a pumpkin spice candle
up his butthole
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