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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I received an email asking for an update on Bert
Harvey's case, the Free Bert movement, and the answer is
they went to court. They were there fewer than five minutes.
The judge thought it was a ridiculous case and tossed
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it out and ordered that Bert's gonna be given back
to him, which they took, of course. And you know,
I suppose all's well, that ends well. Our friend d
Dan Cogdail represented him, and he had Anthony Osso in
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his office handle the courtroom portion of it. And I've
had friends who were so angry over this case. One
of my friends, Larry Hoffmann, was so furious. He said,
I'm going to buy to find out what the gun was.
I'm buying him a replacement. I said, Larry, I need
you to calm down. We're gonna get his gun back.
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This is ridiculous. And I said, I love that you're
not sheep. You don't just go along to get along,
and as long as you're not the one being hit
in the wackamole game, you're happy. I appreciate that you
have vicarious rage for Bert. However, Bert is taking this
pretty well and he's not going to let him knock
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it not let it knock him off. Course, well just no, no,
I get it. I love that you care. I do.
But you know, I've been thinking a lot about this,
and this is this is a hard thing to reconcile.
So most of you heard me tell the story. Our
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friend Bert Harvey was with his son in his son's truck.
He built this, they renovated or they fixed up an
old truck, and he gave it to his son at sixteen.
It's nothing fancy, but it's his son's truck. He's proud
of it. And so the two of them were in
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the parking lot of Rudy's Barbecue out off two forty
nine and Bert's wife Sarah and his other son, Oh gosh,
my memory. Anyway, so they're two different vehicles and they're
leaving this meet up. They're in a car club and
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it's their family activity, and they're headed back home to Crosby.
So they're on the northwest side. They're headed back home
to Crosby, and Bert's son, sixteen, John says, do a
burnout or peel out as we used to say, or
burn rubber or however you say it. And so in
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this private parking not a public road, everybody else is
up on the porch looking out to watch this, because
it's a car club, that's what they do. And he
does the burnout, pulls up to two forty nine feet
er road right there, turns right the only way you
can go, and an officer happens to hear it, not
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see it, pulls him over. And when the officer puts
in his name Burt's full name is Robert Harvey, he
gets a hit for a Robert Harvey in Ohio. Bad guy,
long criminal history. He comes back, stuffs and cuffs Burt
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stuffs and cuffs his kid. Well, mama gets out of
her vehicles, say an officer, my son did nothing wrong.
He yells at her, get back in the car. Okay,
so he made a mistake, it happens. Did my brother
ever make a mistake in over there years of being
along for I'm sure he did. Who wouldn't write? The
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Lord knows I make enough mistakes. But when he gets
this hardened criminal Bert Harvey from Ohio who's done all
these horrible things and has an FBI tag on him
and really really bad guy, when he gets him to
intake at the Cyprus substation, the officer there gets his
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name and his day of birth. And he said, uh,
what are you here for? And he said, well, he says,
he says, I'm a bad guy and I did all this.
So the officer overhears this, and he says he's got
FBI hold on him. He's gone. The ulsers, let me
run this again. What's your birth date again? Blah does
the whole thing. He says, No, he doesn't. He doesn't.
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You got you got the wrong person. This is not
that guy. So officer, it was at Joseph Johnson, I
think's his name. He he He says, well it was.
It's on the computer in my car. I'll go check it.
He goes out and checks it, and he admits he
got the wrong guy. But pride pride goeth before the fall.
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He couldn't say, my bad. I treated you like a
really bad guy, treated your son like a really bad guy,
because I thought I had on my hands a really
bad guy. And you know what, I completely understand that.
I don't fault you for that. Officer. You're out there
all by your lonesome. You are a target of bad guys.
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You just pulled a guy over who you believe you
made the mistake. But you still reasonably believe that he's
a violent criminal, and he may not want to go
back to prison, and he may be out to kill you.
I could even see that. You might think, you know what,
the kid's probably gonna shoot me while I'm cuffing the dad.
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So I'm going to detain the kid too. Okay, all
of those are mistakes, but they're mistakes that can happen.
You shouldn't do this five times a night, but it
could happen. But the moment you realize you've made a mistake, hey,
let's call this thing quits. My mistake. Can I buy
you guys a barbecue at Rudy's? This was my error,
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and y'all have been good sports about it. No, he didn't.
He puts on the charge. He puts failure to signal.
You're coming from a private property onto a one way road.
You can't go the other way. It's an access road.
He puts the reckless driving. But then here's the one.
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He says, Well, you were committing a crime and you
have a pistol in your truck. Well, Bert has both.
It's open carry in the Steate of Texas, so having
a pistol with no Cromme record is not a crime.
And he also has a concealed handgun license First states
with reciprocity. When he travels outside the state, you can
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still have a CHL, and there are still reasons to
have a CHL. But he has him with unauthorized possession
of a weapon. Well, it's not because he hasn't committed
some terrible crime. So Burt's in jail. He's in the
calaboose for thirty two hours. And this guy, this guy knows,
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he knows what he's done, and he's still out there
as a deputy. He was fired from the jail ten
years ago in a pretty nasty scandal that other law
enforcement officers who know me sent it to me and said,
this ain't the first. But here's the point. Bert's out
all that money and all that time, and he's a
good sport about it. But you don't get made whole
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line of this. He will now open the phone lines
officially seven one three nine nine nine one thousand seven
one three nine nine nine one thousand. I was asked
recently by a listener, if now that we're nationally syndicated,
we're going to use a one eight hundred number, and
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it struck me as an odd question, but I started
thinking about it. First of all, you bout can't get
a one eight hundred number any longer because they're all taken.
So people do eight three, three and eight eight eight
different ones like that? Did you see the phone line
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gym for the recovered anorexics eight eight eight eight eight
eight eight eight? And I was wondering, why would someone
why would you care? Like, why would you think we
needed to? Does it sound less national to have a
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seven to one to three number? I I don't know.
I mean, I think sometimes people become very accustomed to
the way things are and confuse that with the way
things need to be. Just because that is what people
do doesn't mean that's the best way to do it. Plus,
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I like our number seven one three, nine, one thousand
because you got a Duey decimal system thing going there.
And the due decimal system is awesome because long before computers,
the Dewey decimal system brought order to disorder. It it brought,
it brought, uh stabilized, it stabilized the chaos. And that
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makes things that do that make me very happy. So anyway,
I got to think, and we had once looked at
a one eight hundred number much earlier when we were
trying so hard to seem like we were a national show.
And Brian Hackel, who ran all the numbers for me,
finally came to the conclusion because you not only have
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to have the number, you got to pay for every
call that comes through it, and it adds up fast,
especially because we do a lot of well, I guess
you could have a backline. It wasn't a one eight hundred.
But anyway, the point of all that is, I just
decided that that wasn't really worth the hassle. But I
was curious if you think it matters, because I guess
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every other show does have a one eight hundred number.
But I wonder if that's because the syndicator, just when
they put them on the air, does a one eight
hundred number. And here you go, and they don't have
a number they already. Like the other thing is, in
the course of my lifetime, the whole phone number system changed.
You know, you didn't have to have the area code
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when I was growing up, which that added a packet
of three more numbers, which complicates the thing. And then
and then you had the one area code for the
area So when I came to Houston, you had seven
one three, and I remember you didn't want you didn't
want to have to get stuck with a two eight
one number. Seven one three was cool, but two eight
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one wasn't. And I worked at a downtown law firm,
and I remember if somebody had a two eight one
number that that was the reason to get jabbed because
you had a two eight one. And now there's so
many of these numbers, you you know, it's uh. Then
you had to go eight three, two, three, four six
because you just keep running out numbers. But the one
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eight hundred was such a big deal when we were
growing up, and I guess that did give it a
sense of, you know, this is really big because that's
what you were accustomed to. I probably spend more time
thinking about stupid stuff like that than I ought to.
I was just curious. Shoot me an email if you
have an opinion on the subject. Let's go to the
phone lines. Beckett seven one three nine nine nine one thousand. Beckett,
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you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Go ahead, Hey, Michael, this is Beckett with Seasons Harvest
Cafe in Cyprus. You and I spoke a few months
ago about our restaurant.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Mm hm. That was a very that was a very
deft product placement. I admire that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Go ahead, thank you. So I mentioned back then that
we're opening a new restaurant, which we have opened now.
It is in the black Horse Ranch Bridgelands area at
two ninety and Frye Road. It's a small counter service location,
just kind of grab and go place. So I wanted
to kind of revisit that conversation, let you know that
we have opened up.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Harvest and that we're hiring.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's Seasons Harvest the Farmer's Counter, So the first location
is the farmer's table and the second one is the
farmers counter because it's just a grab and go counter. Well,
I say, Jess, but it's a grab and go counter.
So it's the same website Seasons Harvest dot Farm FA
r M, and we are hiring for a lot of positions.
I want to that out there to your customers. We're
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hiring kitchen managers and sous chefs, bakers, line cooked prep cooks.
They can all apply at Seasonsharvest dot Farm, f A
r M if they're looking for a mission in the area.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Beckett, So I go to your website and under general
store it says homesteading for kids. What is that?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So we do a lot of classes there, one of
which is home setting for kids kids, So we teach
home setting classes for children. We do homeschool groups and
just any kind of kids groups, teaching them how to
like plant seeds, how to can things, just how to
grow anything kind of farm or homestead related. We do
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just all kinds of classes, like soap making classes and
like I said, canning classes and seating classes, growing classes.
So we do adult classes and kids classes. We have
lots of classes out there we do. Some of them
are free, some of them are paid classes. We do
like an extensive farm class out there.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
We do who made the video? Who made the video
that opens when I go to the website.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So a girl that used to work for us, she
doesn't anymore, she moved, but she made just an amateurs
yes and video. She had never done any of it. Yeah,
she had never done any of it before coming to
work with us, and she did a lot of great
things for her super grateful for just kind of everything
that she did.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Well, let me tell you it's really well done. If
I had chance McLean look at it, and I told
him to tear it apart. He'd find thirty five things
where the lighting wasn't right or the angle wasn't right,
because that's what he does. But for me to just
look at the site, and you know, it's a dynamic site.
So I get the actual video, I get a sense
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of the feel that I don't know what she shot
it on. It's I mean, it looks pretty darn good,
especially for some girl that's never done this before. You
still got that long beard, yes, sir. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So the first location, long Roll, the first location is
doing well. We've been in business for fourteen years and
we're we're super grateful to be able to have been
in business that long. I think I explained last time.
We have a farm there on site. We have about
an acre organic garden. We grow all our produce there organic.
We have local farms that delivered to us several times
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a week to get to support our community. We have
chickens and goats there on the bar, and you lived
there in classes chicken classes we do at times. We
morally live up the street poor.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Foot Ditch and Michael Berry shows the Evil Canevo stunt
cycle brom Ideal. You know in the sixties, seventies, maybe
into the eighties, they would have those local shows where
you'd have, you know, the clown and the different variety,
and the kids would be live. And I wonder why
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they don't do that anymore. That was I don't really
know what children's programming is now because my kids aren't
little and so, but it they used to do. All
of that stuff used to be live and local. I
don't know if the cost was prohibitive. I don't know
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if kids moved on to SpongeBob square Pants. I don't
know what happened. But when I was a kid, there
was programming for kids and it was adults, and it
was not animated, and it was it was funny. Captain
Kangaroo was quality programming that still holds up. You look
at the captain's hairdoo. You look at his suit, that
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jean that was the little left handed lesbian that she
would wear, the same one that the the was my
wife called the red suit with white piping. I just
learned that phrase. And then that you'd have the boxes
and it pop out. Everybody back in the day wanted
to be on Captain Kangaroo. Everybody wanted to be a
guest on Captain Kangaroo. But you don't get that anymore.
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I wonder why is it Alisa or Alissa? Either way,
you're on the Michael.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Berrige Lisa, how are you there?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Can you spell it for me?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
If I spell it for it'll be even worse. It's
s h A.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Okay, say that again, e l I s h A.
You're not enjoying this little exercise.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Silent. Yeah. I've explained it my whole life, so.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, I'm used to it, So say it once for me. Elisa, Elisa, Okay,
all right, Now did your mom intend for the h
to be silent or did you just decide that Elisha
sounded like it wasn't a white girl? Why age.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
My My grandmother's middle name is Alicia. She's Mexican Oka,
and so my name is a play on that. But
I guess maybe in the nineties when Alisha, Alissa, Alicia
were all popular, my mom thought maybe that would be,
you know, a play on a name. H.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
What's your middle name, Marie? So it didn't bother you
so much that you changed it. Like a lot of people,
if they don't like their first name, they just go
by the middle name.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh, No.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
The good news about going by a middle name is
then when you get mail or a phone call for
that name you don't go by, but is your technical
first name on the on the forms that they've bought,
then you know it's not for you. Yeah, what did
you call about, Elisa?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What call?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
What? What? What did you call about? What was the
purpose of your call?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm god. Update about Burt. My homeschool
my kids, and they'll be glad to hear about Burt.
They thought that call was just great the other day.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh awesome. How old are your kids.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Nine and ten?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And how do you How long have you homeschooled.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Them since COVID?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And has that been harder or easier than you thought?
How would? What's different about it than you imagined it?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It is so much easier than I thought. And that's
what I tell everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Okay, what was I thought you had that didn't turn
out to be true? Why is it easier? What made
it easier?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I thought I had to become a teacher. I thought
I had to do lesson plans and organize and you know,
really have it all together to be a perfect teacher.
And that's just not the case.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And what is the case.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
We get to enjoy mornings together and not be rushed around,
and I get to sit down and do a couple
hours of work here with the kids in the morning.
We get to incorporate anything on our farm, anything that
we have going on in life. Our schedules just.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So easy, you know what's interesting. And Lisa, let's say
that one percent of Americans, American families live on a
family farm. I don't know the numbers, but I know
it's gotta be low, all right, So let's say it's
one percent of that one percent, I'll bet you fifty
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percent of them homeschool. And it's almost as if people
get to a point in their lives where they're seeking
a level of wholesomeness, simplicity in a good way, peace,
control over your life. You know you talked about in
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the mornings, you're not rushed. I think that's one of
the things that we take for granted, you know, when
when we have to do so much of public education
or going to a school period is the getting there
and getting home, and so much of it is the
lining up and the silliness of crowd control, which is
which is what it is, and the conformity of it all.
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And and when you talk about education from the perspective
of an individual growing and learning and building skills and
developing and all those things, you don't necessarily need a school.
And so much of what the school day has become
has nothing to do with the development of the individual,
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whether academically.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's crowd control, it's right, it's the kids. How long
does it take the line up to go to how
long does it take the lineup to go to lunch?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
So how long does it take for bus line?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay? So let's go through. Good on you, by the way, LASSI.
If I forget to tell you because we run out
of time, Good on you for being willing to accept
the chance. Because I can imagine that you're laying in
bed before this starts and thinking, I'm not a teacher.
What am I going to do? So how do you
decide what we're going to do today?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well, it's been really nice here in Iowa the last
few days, so it's short time. My youngest would rather
do chores and get paid any day of the week
than school, and so he's got a fantastic work ethic
at nine years old. And if it's a cold chili
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day out, we'll stay in and do bookwork. And by bookwork,
I mean it is very minimal compared to what people think.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And do you have a do you have a syllabus
or do you have some curriculum or something online? Because
I know there are a lot of resources.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I don't do much online. The only things we really
do with computers are typing lessons, okay, and I pick
and pick from this curriculum or this curriculum and kind
of mash them together. But my kids are, you know,
further than what they would be in their grade in school,
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and so I get to keep going and going grade
by grade as fast as we want. I was, and
so they're a couple books that we like to buy
and they work on them throughout the year, and that's
kind of the way we do it. We do a
lot of pencil work. We're not all on computers like
a lot of I think kids in school are.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Now. Yeah, I think this is just fascinating in wonderful.
I think there are all a lot of mothers out there,
especially who have a guilt because they would like to
homeschool and they're scared of the challenge or they can't
quite pull the trigger and they wish they could. Can
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you hang with us or just a moment? I think
it's very inspiringly.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
So I really do that ag and your name is
still got me all messed up that the rest of
that I like, I used to get right.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I typically do get nasty message when I say this,
but I think people don't hear what I'm saying. I
used to think that homeschoolers were weirdos, and maybe they
were back then, when I was growing up, I had
a distant relative that they were very poor and the
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door to their trailer never closed all day. It was
open all day long, no air conditioning, which in Orange,
Texas is I mean, that's man's pretty third world standards.
You don't know a lot of people that live like
that these days. This was, mind you, this was forty
five years ago. But the kids were described by their
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parents as homeschooled, and we would say, but there's no
actual education going on here. They're just home. They're not homeschooled,
they're just home. So maybe that kind of gave me
the wrong idea of what homeschooling was. And then I
was on city council and I had made some positive
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statements based on what I was learning about homeschooling, and
so I was asked to speak to the homeschool graduation
and I started. I kind of became, inadvertently this sort
of poster boy for a public person who was in
favor of homeschooling. And I didn't even have kids. I
kind of felt like I was posing here. But the
more I learned, the more kids I saw. So yesterday
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I was talking to one of our show sponsors and
named Tillman Holloway. Some people will remember his grandfather, Jack Trotter,
who was a big deal in Houston many years ago,
and Tilman's grandfather. On the other side's a guy named
Bud McFadden, number sixty one at the University of Texas,
legendary football player, went to the NFL Hall of Famer
in the NFL, and Tilman is the smartest offensive lineman
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you're ever going to meet in your life. And he too,
wore sixty one for the University of Texas, blocked for
Vince Young. But he's brilliant. I mean, the guy's absolutely brilliant.
And he was homeschooled, and he talked about being you know,
homeschooled and then going to the University of Texas. Austin's
kind of a wild scene and I said, were you
ready for college? He said, I graduated summa cum laane.
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I think so, I said, dude, you're a right guard,
you're an offensive lineman. They got a finance degree with
highest honors from the University of Texas in a tough
business school. Yeah, I'd say you were ready for college.
So I see all these stories. Well, there are more
people who were homeschooled or who are now homeschooling than
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you realize. Chance McLain, for instance, he just sent me
a message zar. A good point to make is smart
homeschool parents don't try to recreate school school as we
know it and more importantly, as we remember it. It's gone.
A lot of new homeschool parents try to recreate something
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that doesn't exist anymore. And wasn't that efficient to begin with?
This lady you have on the air is spot on.
Read books, challenge your kids, get them out in the world.
It was terrifying and people judged the hell out of us,
but I'm grateful that we did it. My kids split
time between Northland Christian and homeschool. Gunn didn't technically graduate
high school. Yet she graduated from A and M easily
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with high honors. Of course she did because she's brilliant.
But I know so many people like this, Alisa, thanks
for hanging around. Can I speak to one of your
two kids for a moment?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, Asher is right here.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Okay, Hello, Asher? Can you spell your mom's first name? No?
I cannot, you cannot. Okay, what are you learning? I
was not homeschooled, but I'm very interested in homeschooling. It
seems kind of cool. I would like to know what
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a day in the life is like when you're homeschool
Do you like it?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Kindness?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Okay, so tell me something you like about it?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh, you gonna spend time with her?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
A lot?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
She said. You do a lot of chores.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
What are the chores that you're good at?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You gotta have some chores. Okay. What are the chores
you like?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Do?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Right? The chicken coop?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Cleaning out the chicken coop? Okay? Do you name the
chickens some of them? Do you go out and get
the eggs in the morning?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I mean not in the morning, but sometimes that night.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Well, I will tell you this, Asher, I would go
with my grandmother when I was younger than you, and
I would go out into the chicken coop with her
and we would check make sure that the chickens were
all safe, because the foxes would come in and or
you know, different animals coyotes or different things would come
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in and attack them, or do you even dogs if
they could get to them. And looking for the eggs.
The egg hunt was the highlight of going with my grandmother.
And it was so much fun to look for those
eggs and then to bring the eggs back and then
she would make the eggs and that was such a
fun time for Does your mom make eggs sometimes? If
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you if you eat eggs that she makes, do you
like them? Scrambled? Fried? Omelet? What's your egg style?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Can I'm scrambled?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Do you ever listen to our show.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Only when her ties it on?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Only when she has it on? Okay? Have you ever
thought about being a talk show host as a career? No,
what would you like to do? If I if you
had to say right now, even if you're not sure,
what would you say that would be? I don't know, Well,
you gotta do something I don't know. I still don't know,
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all right, Well, think it over. Okay, all right, can
I talk to your mom again? Ashra? Thanks for visiting
with us. By the way, here, well, Hi, that's not
an easy thing to do because he can't see me.
He doesn't know who I am. I'm a disembodied voice
asking these random questions that he has no reason why
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I'm asking. So, what is the biggest challenge Elisa to homeschooling?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
For you? And by the way, we spoke to a
Lisa during the break, if there's someone out there that
would like some advice because you're thinking of taking the
plunge to become a homeschool family. She has agreed. I
don't give out personal information, especially for women on the air,
So you can email me and I will afford them
to her and she can respond to you. But what's
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the biggest challenge that you did not foresee?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Honestly, that's hard to think about. A challenge about I
guess maybe filling our day with activities when it's cold out,
I guess, But I don't know. I'm not a huge
preacher of things in general, but I just I the
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time that I get with my kids that people will
never have sending their kids to public school, is a
thing I cherish and I'm so grateful for the most
even if we do absolutely nothing, just being able to
see and speak to your kids at any time during
the day has been the best thing we've ever done
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in our lives. My husband works out of town. He's
a real estate developer, so he's not here some weeks,
but we're forever grateful when he does get to be
home with us and work from home.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
God bless you. I love. That feels very wholesome. Those
kids are going to be the better for it, and
you're going to be the better for it. So if
someone has a question related to or maybe you're a
homeschool mom or dad and you want to bounce some
ideas or share some things that we or said you have,
if you'll email me, I will not respond to you.
I will forward it onto Elisa. All right, I know
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we had some other folks on the line. Hang tight,
will get to you.
I received an email asking for an update on Bert
Harvey's case, the Free Bert movement, and the answer is
they went to court. They were there fewer than five minutes.
The judge thought it was a ridiculous case and tossed
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it out and ordered that Bert's gonna be given back
to him, which they took, of course. And you know,
I suppose all's well, that ends well. Our friend d
Dan Cogdail represented him, and he had Anthony Osso in
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his office handle the courtroom portion of it. And I've
had friends who were so angry over this case. One
of my friends, Larry Hoffmann, was so furious. He said,
I'm going to buy to find out what the gun was.
I'm buying him a replacement. I said, Larry, I need
you to calm down. We're gonna get his gun back.
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This is ridiculous. And I said, I love that you're
not sheep. You don't just go along to get along,
and as long as you're not the one being hit
in the wackamole game, you're happy. I appreciate that you
have vicarious rage for Bert. However, Bert is taking this
pretty well and he's not going to let him knock
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it not let it knock him off. Course, well just no, no,
I get it. I love that you care. I do.
But you know, I've been thinking a lot about this,
and this is this is a hard thing to reconcile.
So most of you heard me tell the story. Our
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friend Bert Harvey was with his son in his son's truck.
He built this, they renovated or they fixed up an
old truck, and he gave it to his son at sixteen.
It's nothing fancy, but it's his son's truck. He's proud
of it. And so the two of them were in
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the parking lot of Rudy's Barbecue out off two forty
nine and Bert's wife Sarah and his other son, Oh gosh,
my memory. Anyway, so they're two different vehicles and they're
leaving this meet up. They're in a car club and
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it's their family activity, and they're headed back home to Crosby.
So they're on the northwest side. They're headed back home
to Crosby, and Bert's son, sixteen, John says, do a
burnout or peel out as we used to say, or
burn rubber or however you say it. And so in
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this private parking not a public road, everybody else is
up on the porch looking out to watch this, because
it's a car club, that's what they do. And he
does the burnout, pulls up to two forty nine feet
er road right there, turns right the only way you
can go, and an officer happens to hear it, not
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see it, pulls him over. And when the officer puts
in his name Burt's full name is Robert Harvey, he
gets a hit for a Robert Harvey in Ohio. Bad guy,
long criminal history. He comes back, stuffs and cuffs Burt
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stuffs and cuffs his kid. Well, mama gets out of
her vehicles, say an officer, my son did nothing wrong.
He yells at her, get back in the car. Okay,
so he made a mistake, it happens. Did my brother
ever make a mistake in over there years of being
along for I'm sure he did. Who wouldn't write? The
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Lord knows I make enough mistakes. But when he gets
this hardened criminal Bert Harvey from Ohio who's done all
these horrible things and has an FBI tag on him
and really really bad guy, when he gets him to
intake at the Cyprus substation, the officer there gets his
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name and his day of birth. And he said, uh,
what are you here for? And he said, well, he says,
he says, I'm a bad guy and I did all this.
So the officer overhears this, and he says he's got
FBI hold on him. He's gone. The ulsers, let me
run this again. What's your birth date again? Blah does
the whole thing. He says, No, he doesn't. He doesn't.
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You got you got the wrong person. This is not
that guy. So officer, it was at Joseph Johnson, I
think's his name. He he He says, well it was.
It's on the computer in my car. I'll go check it.
He goes out and checks it, and he admits he
got the wrong guy. But pride pride goeth before the fall.
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He couldn't say, my bad. I treated you like a
really bad guy, treated your son like a really bad guy,
because I thought I had on my hands a really
bad guy. And you know what, I completely understand that.
I don't fault you for that. Officer. You're out there
all by your lonesome. You are a target of bad guys.
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You just pulled a guy over who you believe you
made the mistake. But you still reasonably believe that he's
a violent criminal, and he may not want to go
back to prison, and he may be out to kill you.
I could even see that. You might think, you know what,
the kid's probably gonna shoot me while I'm cuffing the dad.
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So I'm going to detain the kid too. Okay, all
of those are mistakes, but they're mistakes that can happen.
You shouldn't do this five times a night, but it
could happen. But the moment you realize you've made a mistake, hey,
let's call this thing quits. My mistake. Can I buy
you guys a barbecue at Rudy's? This was my error,
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and y'all have been good sports about it. No, he didn't.
He puts on the charge. He puts failure to signal.
You're coming from a private property onto a one way road.
You can't go the other way. It's an access road.
He puts the reckless driving. But then here's the one.
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He says, Well, you were committing a crime and you
have a pistol in your truck. Well, Bert has both.
It's open carry in the Steate of Texas, so having
a pistol with no Cromme record is not a crime.
And he also has a concealed handgun license First states
with reciprocity. When he travels outside the state, you can
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still have a CHL, and there are still reasons to
have a CHL. But he has him with unauthorized possession
of a weapon. Well, it's not because he hasn't committed
some terrible crime. So Burt's in jail. He's in the
calaboose for thirty two hours. And this guy, this guy knows,
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he knows what he's done, and he's still out there
as a deputy. He was fired from the jail ten
years ago in a pretty nasty scandal that other law
enforcement officers who know me sent it to me and said,
this ain't the first. But here's the point. Bert's out
all that money and all that time, and he's a
good sport about it. But you don't get made whole
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line of this. He will now open the phone lines
officially seven one three nine nine nine one thousand seven
one three nine nine nine one thousand. I was asked
recently by a listener, if now that we're nationally syndicated,
we're going to use a one eight hundred number, and
(08:18):
it struck me as an odd question, but I started
thinking about it. First of all, you bout can't get
a one eight hundred number any longer because they're all taken.
So people do eight three, three and eight eight eight
different ones like that? Did you see the phone line
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gym for the recovered anorexics eight eight eight eight eight
eight eight eight? And I was wondering, why would someone
why would you care? Like, why would you think we
needed to? Does it sound less national to have a
(09:00):
seven to one to three number? I I don't know.
I mean, I think sometimes people become very accustomed to
the way things are and confuse that with the way
things need to be. Just because that is what people
do doesn't mean that's the best way to do it. Plus,
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I like our number seven one three, nine, one thousand
because you got a Duey decimal system thing going there.
And the due decimal system is awesome because long before computers,
the Dewey decimal system brought order to disorder. It it brought,
it brought, uh stabilized, it stabilized the chaos. And that
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makes things that do that make me very happy. So anyway,
I got to think, and we had once looked at
a one eight hundred number much earlier when we were
trying so hard to seem like we were a national show.
And Brian Hackel, who ran all the numbers for me,
finally came to the conclusion because you not only have
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to have the number, you got to pay for every
call that comes through it, and it adds up fast,
especially because we do a lot of well, I guess
you could have a backline. It wasn't a one eight hundred.
But anyway, the point of all that is, I just
decided that that wasn't really worth the hassle. But I
was curious if you think it matters, because I guess
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every other show does have a one eight hundred number.
But I wonder if that's because the syndicator, just when
they put them on the air, does a one eight
hundred number. And here you go, and they don't have
a number they already. Like the other thing is, in
the course of my lifetime, the whole phone number system changed.
You know, you didn't have to have the area code
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when I was growing up, which that added a packet
of three more numbers, which complicates the thing. And then
and then you had the one area code for the
area So when I came to Houston, you had seven
one three, and I remember you didn't want you didn't
want to have to get stuck with a two eight
one number. Seven one three was cool, but two eight
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one wasn't. And I worked at a downtown law firm,
and I remember if somebody had a two eight one
number that that was the reason to get jabbed because
you had a two eight one. And now there's so
many of these numbers, you you know, it's uh. Then
you had to go eight three, two, three, four six
because you just keep running out numbers. But the one
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eight hundred was such a big deal when we were
growing up, and I guess that did give it a
sense of, you know, this is really big because that's
what you were accustomed to. I probably spend more time
thinking about stupid stuff like that than I ought to.
I was just curious. Shoot me an email if you
have an opinion on the subject. Let's go to the
phone lines. Beckett seven one three nine nine nine one thousand. Beckett,
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you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Go ahead, Hey, Michael, this is Beckett with Seasons Harvest
Cafe in Cyprus. You and I spoke a few months
ago about our restaurant.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Mm hm. That was a very that was a very
deft product placement. I admire that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Go ahead, thank you. So I mentioned back then that
we're opening a new restaurant, which we have opened now.
It is in the black Horse Ranch Bridgelands area at
two ninety and Frye Road. It's a small counter service location,
just kind of grab and go place. So I wanted
to kind of revisit that conversation, let you know that
we have opened up.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Harvest and that we're hiring.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
It's Seasons Harvest the Farmer's Counter, So the first location
is the farmer's table and the second one is the
farmers counter because it's just a grab and go counter. Well,
I say, Jess, but it's a grab and go counter.
So it's the same website Seasons Harvest dot Farm FA
r M, and we are hiring for a lot of positions.
I want to that out there to your customers. We're
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hiring kitchen managers and sous chefs, bakers, line cooked prep cooks.
They can all apply at Seasonsharvest dot Farm, f A
r M if they're looking for a mission in the area.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Beckett, So I go to your website and under general
store it says homesteading for kids. What is that?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So we do a lot of classes there, one of
which is home setting for kids kids, So we teach
home setting classes for children. We do homeschool groups and
just any kind of kids groups, teaching them how to
like plant seeds, how to can things, just how to
grow anything kind of farm or homestead related. We do
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just all kinds of classes, like soap making classes and
like I said, canning classes and seating classes, growing classes.
So we do adult classes and kids classes. We have
lots of classes out there we do. Some of them
are free, some of them are paid classes. We do
like an extensive farm class out there.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
We do who made the video? Who made the video
that opens when I go to the website.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So a girl that used to work for us, she
doesn't anymore, she moved, but she made just an amateurs
yes and video. She had never done any of it. Yeah,
she had never done any of it before coming to
work with us, and she did a lot of great
things for her super grateful for just kind of everything
that she did.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Well, let me tell you it's really well done. If
I had chance McLean look at it, and I told
him to tear it apart. He'd find thirty five things
where the lighting wasn't right or the angle wasn't right,
because that's what he does. But for me to just
look at the site, and you know, it's a dynamic site.
So I get the actual video, I get a sense
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of the feel that I don't know what she shot
it on. It's I mean, it looks pretty darn good,
especially for some girl that's never done this before. You
still got that long beard, yes, sir. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So the first location, long Roll, the first location is
doing well. We've been in business for fourteen years and
we're we're super grateful to be able to have been
in business that long. I think I explained last time.
We have a farm there on site. We have about
an acre organic garden. We grow all our produce there organic.
We have local farms that delivered to us several times
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a week to get to support our community. We have
chickens and goats there on the bar, and you lived
there in classes chicken classes we do at times. We
morally live up the street poor.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Foot Ditch and Michael Berry shows the Evil Canevo stunt
cycle brom Ideal. You know in the sixties, seventies, maybe
into the eighties, they would have those local shows where
you'd have, you know, the clown and the different variety,
and the kids would be live. And I wonder why
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they don't do that anymore. That was I don't really
know what children's programming is now because my kids aren't
little and so, but it they used to do. All
of that stuff used to be live and local. I
don't know if the cost was prohibitive. I don't know
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if kids moved on to SpongeBob square Pants. I don't
know what happened. But when I was a kid, there
was programming for kids and it was adults, and it
was not animated, and it was it was funny. Captain
Kangaroo was quality programming that still holds up. You look
at the captain's hairdoo. You look at his suit, that
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jean that was the little left handed lesbian that she
would wear, the same one that the the was my
wife called the red suit with white piping. I just
learned that phrase. And then that you'd have the boxes
and it pop out. Everybody back in the day wanted
to be on Captain Kangaroo. Everybody wanted to be a
guest on Captain Kangaroo. But you don't get that anymore.
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I wonder why is it Alisa or Alissa? Either way,
you're on the Michael.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Berrige Lisa, how are you there?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Can you spell it for me?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
If I spell it for it'll be even worse. It's
s h A.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Okay, say that again, e l I s h A.
You're not enjoying this little exercise.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Silent. Yeah. I've explained it my whole life, so.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Okay, I'm used to it, So say it once for me. Elisa, Elisa, Okay,
all right, Now did your mom intend for the h
to be silent or did you just decide that Elisha
sounded like it wasn't a white girl? Why age.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
My My grandmother's middle name is Alicia. She's Mexican Oka,
and so my name is a play on that. But
I guess maybe in the nineties when Alisha, Alissa, Alicia
were all popular, my mom thought maybe that would be,
you know, a play on a name. H.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
What's your middle name, Marie? So it didn't bother you
so much that you changed it. Like a lot of people,
if they don't like their first name, they just go
by the middle name.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh, No.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
The good news about going by a middle name is
then when you get mail or a phone call for
that name you don't go by, but is your technical
first name on the on the forms that they've bought,
then you know it's not for you. Yeah, what did
you call about, Elisa?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What call?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
What? What? What did you call about? What was the
purpose of your call?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm god. Update about Burt. My homeschool
my kids, and they'll be glad to hear about Burt.
They thought that call was just great the other day.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh awesome. How old are your kids.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Nine and ten?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
And how do you How long have you homeschooled.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Them since COVID?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And has that been harder or easier than you thought?
How would? What's different about it than you imagined it?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It is so much easier than I thought. And that's
what I tell everybody.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Okay, what was I thought you had that didn't turn
out to be true? Why is it easier? What made
it easier?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I thought I had to become a teacher. I thought
I had to do lesson plans and organize and you know,
really have it all together to be a perfect teacher.
And that's just not the case.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And what is the case.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
We get to enjoy mornings together and not be rushed around,
and I get to sit down and do a couple
hours of work here with the kids in the morning.
We get to incorporate anything on our farm, anything that
we have going on in life. Our schedules just.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So easy, you know what's interesting. And Lisa, let's say
that one percent of Americans, American families live on a
family farm. I don't know the numbers, but I know
it's gotta be low, all right, So let's say it's
one percent of that one percent, I'll bet you fifty
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percent of them homeschool. And it's almost as if people
get to a point in their lives where they're seeking
a level of wholesomeness, simplicity in a good way, peace,
control over your life. You know you talked about in
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the mornings, you're not rushed. I think that's one of
the things that we take for granted, you know, when
when we have to do so much of public education
or going to a school period is the getting there
and getting home, and so much of it is the
lining up and the silliness of crowd control, which is
which is what it is, and the conformity of it all.
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And and when you talk about education from the perspective
of an individual growing and learning and building skills and
developing and all those things, you don't necessarily need a school.
And so much of what the school day has become
has nothing to do with the development of the individual,
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whether academically.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's crowd control, it's right, it's the kids. How long
does it take the line up to go to how
long does it take the lineup to go to lunch?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
So how long does it take for bus line?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay? So let's go through. Good on you, by the way, LASSI.
If I forget to tell you because we run out
of time, Good on you for being willing to accept
the chance. Because I can imagine that you're laying in
bed before this starts and thinking, I'm not a teacher.
What am I going to do? So how do you
decide what we're going to do today?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Well, it's been really nice here in Iowa the last
few days, so it's short time. My youngest would rather
do chores and get paid any day of the week
than school, and so he's got a fantastic work ethic
at nine years old. And if it's a cold chili
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day out, we'll stay in and do bookwork. And by bookwork,
I mean it is very minimal compared to what people think.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And do you have a do you have a syllabus
or do you have some curriculum or something online? Because
I know there are a lot of resources.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I don't do much online. The only things we really
do with computers are typing lessons, okay, and I pick
and pick from this curriculum or this curriculum and kind
of mash them together. But my kids are, you know,
further than what they would be in their grade in school,
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and so I get to keep going and going grade
by grade as fast as we want. I was, and
so they're a couple books that we like to buy
and they work on them throughout the year, and that's
kind of the way we do it. We do a
lot of pencil work. We're not all on computers like
a lot of I think kids in school are.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Now. Yeah, I think this is just fascinating in wonderful.
I think there are all a lot of mothers out there,
especially who have a guilt because they would like to
homeschool and they're scared of the challenge or they can't
quite pull the trigger and they wish they could. Can
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you hang with us or just a moment? I think
it's very inspiringly.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
So I really do that ag and your name is
still got me all messed up that the rest of
that I like, I used to get right.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I typically do get nasty message when I say this,
but I think people don't hear what I'm saying. I
used to think that homeschoolers were weirdos, and maybe they
were back then, when I was growing up, I had
a distant relative that they were very poor and the
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door to their trailer never closed all day. It was
open all day long, no air conditioning, which in Orange,
Texas is I mean, that's man's pretty third world standards.
You don't know a lot of people that live like
that these days. This was, mind you, this was forty
five years ago. But the kids were described by their
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parents as homeschooled, and we would say, but there's no
actual education going on here. They're just home. They're not homeschooled,
they're just home. So maybe that kind of gave me
the wrong idea of what homeschooling was. And then I
was on city council and I had made some positive
(25:33):
statements based on what I was learning about homeschooling, and
so I was asked to speak to the homeschool graduation
and I started. I kind of became, inadvertently this sort
of poster boy for a public person who was in
favor of homeschooling. And I didn't even have kids. I
kind of felt like I was posing here. But the
more I learned, the more kids I saw. So yesterday
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I was talking to one of our show sponsors and
named Tillman Holloway. Some people will remember his grandfather, Jack Trotter,
who was a big deal in Houston many years ago,
and Tilman's grandfather. On the other side's a guy named
Bud McFadden, number sixty one at the University of Texas,
legendary football player, went to the NFL Hall of Famer
in the NFL, and Tilman is the smartest offensive lineman
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you're ever going to meet in your life. And he too,
wore sixty one for the University of Texas, blocked for
Vince Young. But he's brilliant. I mean, the guy's absolutely brilliant.
And he was homeschooled, and he talked about being you know,
homeschooled and then going to the University of Texas. Austin's
kind of a wild scene and I said, were you
ready for college? He said, I graduated summa cum laane.
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I think so, I said, dude, you're a right guard,
you're an offensive lineman. They got a finance degree with
highest honors from the University of Texas in a tough
business school. Yeah, I'd say you were ready for college.
So I see all these stories. Well, there are more
people who were homeschooled or who are now homeschooling than
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you realize. Chance McLain, for instance, he just sent me
a message zar. A good point to make is smart
homeschool parents don't try to recreate school school as we
know it and more importantly, as we remember it. It's gone.
A lot of new homeschool parents try to recreate something
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that doesn't exist anymore. And wasn't that efficient to begin with?
This lady you have on the air is spot on.
Read books, challenge your kids, get them out in the world.
It was terrifying and people judged the hell out of us,
but I'm grateful that we did it. My kids split
time between Northland Christian and homeschool. Gunn didn't technically graduate
high school. Yet she graduated from A and M easily
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with high honors. Of course she did because she's brilliant.
But I know so many people like this, Alisa, thanks
for hanging around. Can I speak to one of your
two kids for a moment?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes, Asher is right here.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Okay, Hello, Asher? Can you spell your mom's first name? No?
I cannot, you cannot. Okay, what are you learning? I
was not homeschooled, but I'm very interested in homeschooling. It
seems kind of cool. I would like to know what
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a day in the life is like when you're homeschool
Do you like it?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Kindness?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Okay, so tell me something you like about it?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh, you gonna spend time with her?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:43):
A lot?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
She said. You do a lot of chores.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
What are the chores that you're good at?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
You gotta have some chores. Okay. What are the chores
you like?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Do?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Right? The chicken coop?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Cleaning out the chicken coop? Okay? Do you name the
chickens some of them? Do you go out and get
the eggs in the morning?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I mean not in the morning, but sometimes that night.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Well, I will tell you this, Asher, I would go
with my grandmother when I was younger than you, and
I would go out into the chicken coop with her
and we would check make sure that the chickens were
all safe, because the foxes would come in and or
you know, different animals coyotes or different things would come
(29:41):
in and attack them, or do you even dogs if
they could get to them. And looking for the eggs.
The egg hunt was the highlight of going with my grandmother.
And it was so much fun to look for those
eggs and then to bring the eggs back and then
she would make the eggs and that was such a
fun time for Does your mom make eggs sometimes? If
(30:07):
you if you eat eggs that she makes, do you
like them? Scrambled? Fried? Omelet? What's your egg style?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Can I'm scrambled?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Do you ever listen to our show.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Only when her ties it on?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Only when she has it on? Okay? Have you ever
thought about being a talk show host as a career? No,
what would you like to do? If I if you
had to say right now, even if you're not sure,
what would you say that would be? I don't know, Well,
you gotta do something I don't know. I still don't know,
(30:51):
all right, Well, think it over. Okay, all right, can
I talk to your mom again? Ashra? Thanks for visiting
with us. By the way, here, well, Hi, that's not
an easy thing to do because he can't see me.
He doesn't know who I am. I'm a disembodied voice
asking these random questions that he has no reason why
(31:12):
I'm asking. So, what is the biggest challenge Elisa to homeschooling?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
For you? And by the way, we spoke to a
Lisa during the break, if there's someone out there that
would like some advice because you're thinking of taking the
plunge to become a homeschool family. She has agreed. I
don't give out personal information, especially for women on the air,
So you can email me and I will afford them
to her and she can respond to you. But what's
(31:40):
the biggest challenge that you did not foresee?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Honestly, that's hard to think about. A challenge about I
guess maybe filling our day with activities when it's cold out,
I guess, But I don't know. I'm not a huge
preacher of things in general, but I just I the
(32:10):
time that I get with my kids that people will
never have sending their kids to public school, is a
thing I cherish and I'm so grateful for the most
even if we do absolutely nothing, just being able to
see and speak to your kids at any time during
the day has been the best thing we've ever done
(32:32):
in our lives. My husband works out of town. He's
a real estate developer, so he's not here some weeks,
but we're forever grateful when he does get to be
home with us and work from home.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
God bless you. I love. That feels very wholesome. Those
kids are going to be the better for it, and
you're going to be the better for it. So if
someone has a question related to or maybe you're a
homeschool mom or dad and you want to bounce some
ideas or share some things that we or said you have,
if you'll email me, I will not respond to you.
I will forward it onto Elisa. All right, I know
(33:06):
we had some other folks on the line. Hang tight,
will get to you.
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