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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air. I received
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an email from my listener named wave Gola that reads,
I believe I can speak about this now. It's been
hard to in Baytown. We live on an island, one
bridge on and one bridge off. We had but I
call a serial killer living here, and a really great
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friend and neighbor was struck down by him at the
end of his shooting spree with life dead. Four people
and I believe two others shot. My friend, A truck
driver just got home and I was on the phone
with him in my house when he was gunned down,
talking to him. He just pulled up across the street.
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I heard everything. I ran out and saw other neighbors
told me he went down a street that was a horseshoe.
I called BPD, which is presumably a Baytown Police Department,
and ran to get the only gun I had that
was outside, a little twenty five pocket pistol. He came
hard right at me. I was at this point on
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the phone with Baytown Police Department and ran to confront
this person. He came around the corner and I stood
pointing my gun at him. Told BPD his plates and description.
He was killed by BPD down the road. I took
an ambulance to get to my friend over twenty minutes
with everyone else shot up. He was a hell of
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a guy. I miss him every day. Thank you. Even
writing this has helped a little. God bless Wade. Welcome
to the program.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
When did all this happen?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh, this happened October fifth.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Twenty twenty to holes relatively.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah, he knew what I did.
Of course, we lived, you know, across from each other
for over ten years. And he was a truck driver.
Of course I said that in my email. And and
I'm a vessel agent, so you know, he knew that
from time to time I had to go to a
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vessel and excuse me, from time to time and I
had to go to a vessel to uh to go
and tend to sign documents, to see the captain and whatnot.
We had we had talked and talked earlier the day
and I told him, listen, I gotta go to Beaumont.
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I gotta, you know, take care of some documentation and whatnot.
And so on his way home he had called me
and said, wait, there's a there's a wreck and he said,
I don't know. There there's there's people. They're all bloody
and stuff like that. I was like, oh, well, you know,
he said, I don't know if you can get out.
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He said, you know, I don't know which way you're going.
I said, well, I got to go to Beaumont and
he said okay. He said, this is down Evergreen, which
is the road where the golf course used to be.
Now it's a one of those disc golf course now.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
In a park.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
But uh, he he came on in, got off the
phone with me for a second, got on the phone
with his cousin. And what he does, you know, when
once he parks his truck, he gets on trocyy Betrode
and he'll open up for god awful reason. He loads
the butt eyes one of those thirty two ounce ugly
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but god, they're awful of drink. But he he'd liked
to drink those when he get on the road, because
you knew he was safe on the road. I mean,
it's pretty, you know, woodsy road coming on down till
you get to the bridge.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And so he stopped.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Over there where we have our mailboxes, and he talked
to his nephew or his cousin for a minute and
then he decided to go on off. Well, he wasn't
paying attention. There was a lady behind him that that
had already been shot in the arm by this guy.
And what he had saw coming in was that that
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evil person had shot a gentleman in the head when
when he was coming out and shot I believe shot
his wife as well. I'm not one hundred and ten
percent on that one. And then he he came in,
saw that lady shot her and then come back around
or something and she how it comes in, it's a tee.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So the lady took a right.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Brian took a left, and Brian came on in, got
back on the phone with me and it's like, hey,
you about to leave.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
On out and whatnot. I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
About to get on out of here, and you know,
I got to get on down there.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And so that's when I.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Heard a guy go, hey, you a gang banger, and
so okay, let me back up for a second. Brian
lased to back in his truck, so he saw the
truck behind him, and so he just stopped and was
waving him on to you know, go pass, so he
could you know, back up, and you know, his truck
into the driveway and and so all I heard was, well,
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we were talking, hey, are you a gang banger? And
Brian goes what he goes, are you a m gang banger?
And Brian goes, no, my truck driver. I just and
then you know that's saying no. That was that was
when I heard that, and then ran on out, told
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my wife called nine one one, get my phone, call
nine one one, come on out, and you.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Know, of course he was. He was gone.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Now at the time, we we we we After I
confronted him down the road, we got Brian out, started
doing CPR and trying and yeah, I did take about
you know, twenty minutes, over twenty minutes for the the.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Cops to get here.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
They were kind of confused with all the shootings that
had happened with this gentleman he when he when I
came out, the only gun I could get at the time,
of course, I said, my email was my twenty five.
I had my my colt in the house, but I
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didn't know if I had enough time, you know, and
and I'd left another one with my brother, uh, you know,
mistakenly in his truth.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I didn't mean to, but my nine that would have helped.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But when I saw him come around. The only reason
why I didn't the fire this what kills me. There
was other neighbors back behind, and I was afraid of
you know what was the ricochet was something that happens
with that hits one of my mind papers behind.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That that.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And so the only thing I could do was to
give the description to the cops. Now they had the
tapes and everything else. So he blasts around the corner.
My wife is in the truck trying to unbuckle brian seatbelt.
Laurie's wife was on the other side, and he comes
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holding but past my wife, and I was so afraid
that he was going to hit her. And then, you know,
thank God Lord get out when she did.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But Wade hold on just a moment. George Benard Shore
and the words that were taken by Robert F. K.
These children speak Chinese.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And Bannist and Michael Verry H.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Wade Gola is our guests mom throwing a little collective
soul in on us story of a shooting that he
was involved with. Wait, I didn't understand why this person
began this shooting spree.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
At first, we didn't either, you know. Was what we
learned afterwards was, uh, he worked for a tattoo parlor
and this all stem from his uh, his girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He was a jealous, jealous soul.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I guess he two weeks for a week beforehand, he
had lured one of the guys that he works with
at the tattoo parlor and his girlfriend out to the
old field off of Evergreen and in the back of the.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Where some of the old ridge are.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
He he had shot and killed them two a week beforehand,
and you know, nobody knew about it. You know this,
you know this, And then they found them, I believe
two days after Brian was shot. I'd have to look
back on that one and see. But then he had
he was sick, man.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
He he burnt a cat alive and he had got
charges on that.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Uh. Then he had beat up his his girlfriend because
this Austin from I believe he thought she was cheaping
on him, and so then he had put her in
the hospital. She was in the hospital or if they
wouldn't allow him to come see her. So he got
into a rage. Now how he got that gun, You
know if he was a felon, I don't know, but
you know he had the gun, you know, a forty
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cawl pistol, and it was pure just rage. And then
what it was why he shot the gentleman in the
head because the guy cut him off when he was
trying to pull out, and he was, I believe, a
neighbor of his. They lived, you know, kind of close
to each other. And Brown was just sitting in his
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truck talking to me. You know, there was no he
didn't do nothing to the gentleman, know nothing, you know,
he was just sitting here and I come to find out.
I believe the reason why he didn't ran his truck
against me or try to hit me, I was across
the street in somebody else's yard.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Point line still have him or or he I believe
he had ran out of bullets.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Uh when when he fired in the brine, that was
his last four bullets. And at the time I didn't
know it, but we had found one of the maintenance
workers that works around here. He had went on over
there and was cleaning out stuff, and even the cops
missed it.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Found a gun.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
We the whole time for weeks or a month or so.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We we thought maybe he had threw it in the water,
maybe you know it, We just didn't know where it was.
The cops couldn't find a gun. Nobody could find a gun.
And the maintenance worker he found it and turned it in,
thank god. But he found it in a vent. It
was a trailer they lived in, so you know, he
had put it way down deep in the event. And
how he found that and the cops didn't find out,
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I have no idea, but uh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, that got away. When you approach him, he gets away.
And do we know where he goes from there?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So when he took that that corner and he started
headed towards my wife and Lorie, I gave the descriptions
to the cops because I was on the phone with
the cops the whole time, and I told him the
license plate number and the color of car. Well, the
copts were already working the scene and had an ambulance
and everything down the road from where that gentleman was
struck in the head, so they were already there when
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he comes out and comes down the road, because like
I said, there's one bridge on, one bridge off and
it all happened right before it curved, before you get
to Evergreen, this is where it all happened. They opened
fire on them because they already knew it was a
dodge of gold color with this licensed blade, and so
they already had a description. They knew he was coming
down because I told him.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I said, he's.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Heading and you know, he's hauling ass down the road
right now. I said, he's coming to y'all. You know,
because I could look on the back side of my
property and see the main road, so I could see
him going down the road. And so I was hauling
and you know, on the phone with them and uh
what the cop that that that When they finally came
on over here and I talked to him and everything else,
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he said, well, you killed him. I said, no, sorry,
I did. And he goes, no, you did. He said
we we we we got him, he says, and and
what he said, we we we also you know, put
the dogs on as well. I was like, well, you know,
at the time, you know, that makes you a little bit.
You know, he's gone, he can't hurt nobody else.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So but I didn't. I didn't believe that I did it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You know, I believe I was helped in, you know,
making sure he wasn't going to do it again.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But I don't think well, did.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The autopsy show that there was a twenty five around
twenty five round?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
No, no, no, see, my I did never. I never
did discharge my my farm. I never did. Now, what
he shot Brian with was a forty cow. And so
once we got Brian out, we we started DOINGPR. Cops came,
they did CPR, ambulance finally came about thirty forty minutes later.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
They finally showed up.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I mean, and so they said that he had a
slight heartbeat, which I call bull on that because we
know what the autopsy is now. But what it was.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Was when.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm sorry, when when when he was shot with the
autopsy it blasted a whole rope to his heart, I
mean blasted to his heart, went through his boslngs, hit
his spine as well.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Was one of the other one.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I think the last one just missed them all together
and hit the hit the door, and so.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And so. At the time they were doing CPR, they
said they got slight heartbeat, so they life lighted them.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They took him down the road, they got him on
so we were thinking there.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Was a chancel, you know, chance that he made survive,
but there was none. He was pretty much dla when.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
They got them to Memorial and uh, and that was
that was it on on.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But we didn't know that at the.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Time, you know, it was it was still yeah, you know,
we're just trying to do everything. We cared tops. You know,
they they the Beyton PD got Loria out and got
her to the hospital. They had shut down the whole road. Uh,
there was nobody going in and out of here till
I believe it was like three four o'clock.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
In the morning when they finally opened up everything.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well that's a story, that's for sure. That is that
is a story. Thank you for the message, Thank you
for sharing it with us. You know, I am increasingly
of the belief that we are too protective of people
who are in the middle of committing crimes. We make
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our officers wait too long, we show too much restraint.
You don't want somebody else being hit in the crossfire.
But I am increasingly of the opinion that we need
more aggressive policing when someone is in the commission of
violent crimes, and much much harsher approaches to like to
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smash and grab folks in San Francisco, the evil, evil
stunt cycle rum ideal. I suppose this is irony or
the sort of nonsense that we have tolerated for too
long in this country. That needs to come to an end,
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and that means some Republicans are going to have to
be booted out of office, and it means people like
Greg Abbott is going to actually have to do something.
Yesterday day, the State House approved ivermectin over the counter.
You know that horse paste. You don't want to take
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that if you have COVID it's horse paste. Remember do
you know how many lives were saved because of it?
And that happened in the same week that Mary Tally
Boden is being punished by the Texas Medical Association for
prescribing ivermectin because they don't want you prescribing ivermectin because
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the pharmaceutical companies don't get paid for that, just like
with hydroxy chloroquin. Mary Taly Boden joins us for a
brief update on this case. She was our guest a
few days ago. How did you react when you get
the news that ivermectin over the counter has gone over
the counter. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Stunned, a little stunned.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I didn't think it would ever happen in Texas after
everything that that drug has put me through.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And how does it work? And why does it work?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Well, it has twenty mechanisms of action. But the key
thing with covid, and actually this is true with any
RNA virus, it blocks the virus from entering the nucleus
of the cell and also inhibits an enzyme that the
virus needs to replicate, So it has broader applications than
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just covid. It's it's truly an amazing drug, and it
has a lot of anti inflammatory actions as well.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
We call those off label applications.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
She hates when I talk medicine makes her crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So why was?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Do you know why it was originally used for horses?
If you don't, it's okay. I'm kind of curious how
that started.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I don't know exactly why. I mean, because you know
pair sites, but I don't know that it.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Was originally I think it came in combination. I don't
know that it was first used on animals from what I.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Understand, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
So let me understand who, I mean, who would be
a person that might use over the counter ivermectin. Is
this someone that is already sick and if so with
what or is this a prophylactic approach to overall good
health and warding off viruses.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Well, yeah, honestly, it's the best thing we have for
the common cold at this point. So I see it
being used in that in that facility, it's you know,
people are starting to use it for cancer. It's not
something that I am treating with because I just don't
do a lot of cancer in my practice. But I
do see a lot of people getting ivermectin from the
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fees store or Mexico or India to take for can sir,
And you know we're hearing, Yeah, I'm seeing benefits with
the vaccine injured. I had a patient the other day
who I've been trying to help for four years now,
I mean just really severe symptoms and we finally had
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a breakthrough by going on a much higher dose of
ibermectum than I would have normally given him and he
finally got relief. So I'm see, you know, I see
the vaccine injured daily in my office. So we still
have a lot of work to do ivermecin. This is
a big win, but we really need to get these
mRNA shots pulled off the.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Market, agreed, And they're continuing to jab. Let's talk about
you put something up the other day, your suggestion to
people to find out if they have spike proteins, and
I think you said they could go to lab Quest
or wherever else and get a basic test done. Can
you explain that.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yeah, so it's lab Core and I would not go
to QUEST because the cut off at QUEST is much lower.
But at lab Core you can test your spike protein
and a body level.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
And we don't have a way to directly.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Measure spike protein. And the theory is and the people
that got the shots that the body is continuing to
produce spipe protein and that's why they continue to have
these symptoms. So the next best thing to measuring the
spike protein itself is to measure the body's response to that,
which is a spike protein.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And a body level.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
And what I am finding and the patients that got
the shots, and these are people, you know, for the
most part, in my practice, I'm seeing people that got two,
maybe three shots total, but years following these shots their
sky their spike protein antibody levels are sky high. Like
when I compared those that got the shots to those
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that didn't get the shots, the spike protein and a
body level is ten times higher than the people and
the people that got the shots than the people that didn't.
And in some case, in many cases I looked at it,
seven percent, the level was so high that it could
not be measured by the test, So over twenty five thousand,
which is not normal when you've gotten a shot so
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long ago and you haven't had a recent infection. It's
a very stark difference in what we're seeing and it
deserves further research.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Do you think that people are dying today currently from
side effects of the COVID shot that they took in say,
spring of twenty one, for four and a half years later.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Unfortunately, yes, when you look at all calls, mortality data
continues to rise, disability data continues to rise. Unfortunately, the
government won't give us up to date cancer data. They're
giving us projections based on old data, but they're not
giving us the most recent data. But from what I'm
hearing amongst friends of mine at M. D. Anderson is
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it's alarming. The cancer and the young people. Advanced stage
cancer presenting in young people is something you know more
than they've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
All right, I've got about a minute. I want to
pin you down on this where exactly is what exactly
is the state of your practice. I know they've been
trying to finish you off. You are currently practicing? Are
you able to continue practicing?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Yeah, I've moved my office to the west side of
town Spring Branch.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Area, and yeah, I've.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Signed a least for three years, so I'll go for
at least that long until they can't let me.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, I don't think they're going to take my
license away. And this fight is probably going.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
To take years. I mean, I have to appeal to
the state District Court and then from there I may
have to appeal to the Texas Supreme Court. And it's
already been four years having them made it to that point,
so hopefully.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I can at least write out the three year lease.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You and I spoke by email before you were on recently,
and I was under the impression you were no longer
some time ago, no longer accepting new patients as you
dealt with all this. Then a number of people flooded
me with emails wanting to get in. Are you accepting
new patients? And how do people go about that? I
will say on your behalf so you don't have to.
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I know that you became a little frustrated that you
wanted to practice medicine and not have political rallies, and
a lot of people began reaching out wanting to talk
politics and medical politics and all of that when you
wanted to be a practicing physician. So you want to
weed that out. I get it. You want people who
need your medical care. But I've got thirty seconds. How
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do people who want to come and see you see you?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
That's why it's to call or email our office front
desk at breathemd dot org or seven one three four nine.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Two two three four zero.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I do not accept new patients online anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And that had something to do with that. Yeah, you
take the longest to answer after I asked a question
TD guests I've ever had, Mary Tellygrodon, thank you for
ben our guests. So it appears we have a cult
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here in Houston, and the ministry leaders have been arrested,
including these self proclaimed apostle as. The FBI has rated
their Northwest Houston Campus. The story from KHOU. I think
it's definitely some coal life activities.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
That's how Vincent Escobido describes what he's seen next door
at this former hotel along the North Freeway. The FBI
raiding the property Wednesday, which federal prosecutors say is one
of nine locations tied to the Kingdom of God Global Church,
a so called religious ministry at the center of a
nationwide investigation the FBI.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They're calling out to them on megaphones and stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I heard that authorities in North Carolina and Florida today
arresting the self professed leaders of the organization, fifty three
year old David Taylor and fifty six year old Michelle Brannan.
Federal prosecutors say they ran call centers in Michigan, Florida, Texas.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And Missouri.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
This indictment alleging they forced their unpaid victims to reach
out for unobtainable monetary donation amounts and would punish them
if they failed to reach those goals. The punishments purportedly
including food restrictions, humiliation, and physical and psychological assaults. The
victims also allegedly forced to sleep in the call centers
and other ministry houses and unable to leave without permission
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something Escubido says he believes.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
He's so it just kind of weird stuff seeing people
from the window, and like whenever you notice them back
to kind of like look away or get away from
the window. That's that's definitely odd. I never really saw
anyone actually leave the place.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Federal prosecutor say this scheme pulled in fifty million dollars
in donations since twenty fourteen. A lot of that money
allegedly spent on luxury properties, luxury vehicles, boats, jet skis,
and ATVs.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Isn't that always what they do? Why is it when
people get easy money, it's always sports cars and boats
and some motorcycles and some ATVs. I'm gonna call Philip
Orange at Houston Motorsports and ask him what percentage of
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people that are coming in are people that are engaged
in mortgage fraud or like some huge scam. And it
always worries me when the things I think are cool
are things that those people think are cool. You know,
we used to do a little bit when when somebody
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when the death penalty was enforced the state of Texas
used to have this real cool deal where they would
before you were to be put to death. The next
day they go, we're gonna put you to death because
you committed capital murder. You're a bad guy, and for that,
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we're gonna murder you. But before we murder you, like
a capon, we're gonna stuff you full of how much
food you want make a list, and so we would
read the list and you would guess whether the person
was black or white. And the fact is you'd never
know because it was always fried chicken. You could order
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whatever you want, fried chicken, stay, watermelon, ice cream, turnip greens,
corn bread. And I don't know about you, but I've
had situations. When I was growing up, there was a
Ramada inn on iten. It's still there, but now it's
some Indian gowns and it's like the I don't know,
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remodeled in or something. It's bad. It's been hit by
the flood two many times. And when my dad would
work a shutdown, he'd take a little portion. That means
he'd work all weekend long not leave there, so he
wouldn't get a weekend. I would just stay and work
because they would shut down the plant or a shutdown
as it was referred to, and they would shut down
the plant and clean everything. And he liked it because
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it was he could make a little extra money. And
they would do that before school started and before Christmas,
the two times the working man needs money the most.
And when he would do that, the next Saturday it
would be a little treat. We would go to the
Ramana End. They had a seafood buffet and I don't
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remember how much it costs, but we could not eat
after about four o'clock on Friday, because by God, we
were spending good money. Probably wasn't that much, but it
was a lot of money to my parents to go
to the Ramanta End to have a seafood buffet. And
on Saturday, you woke up, you have water and that
was it. And you didn't need to overdo the water
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because we were going there to punish that place. When
we walked out of there, they were going to go,
oh man, let's not let them back. Get here again,
them people. And there were things you were not allowed
to put on your plate because those are filler. That
would be hushpuppies, that would be French fries, that would
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be salad. You were to go for the catfish and
the shrimp maximum damage done. And I can remember being
frustrated that I couldn't eat as much as I wanted
to because somehow that that was gonna make it better. Well,
this cult got us to talking. On the show, Comedian
Maria Bamford has a bit about always wanting to join
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a cult.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Sometimes I get kind of a bad attitude at work.
Stop being a team player. Forget why I started temping
in the first place, which is to make a difference.
Remember one day, one day, I was a sitting in
the employee kitchen drinking non dairy creamer straight from the curtain,
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and a girlfriend she came out to me and she said, Hey, Maria,
I've been taking this class that's really changed my life.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Would you like to come tonight at a seven thirty
pm with the DoubleTree Santa Monica.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
There's no obligation and it's free. Cheryl joined your cult.
I always wanted to be in one. You know, get
to wear a uniform. You have any major life questions,
check the manual.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
There is a God, there is a plan, and the
spaceship is coming. We went at least have you know
with the Guru.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
She said, Maria, what's something you want to make manifest
in your life, like a new car.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
What do you really want? A new car? What do
you really want?
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Toyota four Runner SR five Limited leather that runs on
dreams and starlight. She got mad at me because I
didn't have the cash for the brainwash weekend. Ray, Let's
think of all the ways we can get four hundred
and ninety five dollars tonight.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Do you have a charge card? Nope? Do you have
something you could sell? I bet my soul might be
worth something. Is there is there anyone you could borrow
it from?
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Oh man, if you could spot me.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
So we were talking about this story as we prepped,
and we decided we want to hear from former cult
members or families of cult members. Priority given to former
cult members. No, no, not cowboy fans successful cults. Were
you a leader or a follower? What made you join
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the cult? How did you get out? What claims did
the leader make? Were they God? Or they had the dream?
Seven one three nine nine nine one thousand seven one
three nine nine nine one thousand seven one three nine
nine nine one thousand. Oh, we're going to fiss the
Mormons off because somebody's gonna call up
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air. I received
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an email from my listener named wave Gola that reads,
I believe I can speak about this now. It's been
hard to in Baytown. We live on an island, one
bridge on and one bridge off. We had but I
call a serial killer living here, and a really great
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friend and neighbor was struck down by him at the
end of his shooting spree with life dead. Four people
and I believe two others shot. My friend, A truck
driver just got home and I was on the phone
with him in my house when he was gunned down,
talking to him. He just pulled up across the street.
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I heard everything. I ran out and saw other neighbors
told me he went down a street that was a horseshoe.
I called BPD, which is presumably a Baytown Police Department,
and ran to get the only gun I had that
was outside, a little twenty five pocket pistol. He came
hard right at me. I was at this point on
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the phone with Baytown Police Department and ran to confront
this person. He came around the corner and I stood
pointing my gun at him. Told BPD his plates and description.
He was killed by BPD down the road. I took
an ambulance to get to my friend over twenty minutes
with everyone else shot up. He was a hell of
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a guy. I miss him every day. Thank you. Even
writing this has helped a little. God bless Wade. Welcome
to the program.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
When did all this happen?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh, this happened October fifth.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Twenty twenty to holes relatively.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yes, sir, yes, sir. Yeah, he knew what I did.
Of course, we lived, you know, across from each other
for over ten years. And he was a truck driver.
Of course I said that in my email. And and
I'm a vessel agent, so you know, he knew that
from time to time I had to go to a
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vessel and excuse me, from time to time and I
had to go to a vessel to uh to go
and tend to sign documents, to see the captain and whatnot.
We had we had talked and talked earlier the day
and I told him, listen, I gotta go to Beaumont.
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I gotta, you know, take care of some documentation and whatnot.
And so on his way home he had called me
and said, wait, there's a there's a wreck and he said,
I don't know. There there's there's people. They're all bloody
and stuff like that. I was like, oh, well, you know,
he said, I don't know if you can get out.
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He said, you know, I don't know which way you're going.
I said, well, I got to go to Beaumont and
he said okay. He said, this is down Evergreen, which
is the road where the golf course used to be.
Now it's a one of those disc golf course now.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
In a park.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
But uh, he he came on in, got off the
phone with me for a second, got on the phone
with his cousin. And what he does, you know, when
once he parks his truck, he gets on trocyy Betrode
and he'll open up for god awful reason. He loads
the butt eyes one of those thirty two ounce ugly
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but god, they're awful of drink. But he he'd liked
to drink those when he get on the road, because
you knew he was safe on the road. I mean,
it's pretty, you know, woodsy road coming on down till
you get to the bridge.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And so he stopped.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Over there where we have our mailboxes, and he talked
to his nephew or his cousin for a minute and
then he decided to go on off. Well, he wasn't
paying attention. There was a lady behind him that that
had already been shot in the arm by this guy.
And what he had saw coming in was that that
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evil person had shot a gentleman in the head when
when he was coming out and shot I believe shot
his wife as well. I'm not one hundred and ten
percent on that one. And then he he came in,
saw that lady shot her and then come back around
or something and she how it comes in, it's a tee.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So the lady took a right.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Brian took a left, and Brian came on in, got
back on the phone with me and it's like, hey,
you about to leave.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
On out and whatnot. I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
About to get on out of here, and you know,
I got to get on down there.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And so that's when I.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Heard a guy go, hey, you a gang banger, and
so okay, let me back up for a second. Brian
lased to back in his truck, so he saw the
truck behind him, and so he just stopped and was
waving him on to you know, go pass, so he
could you know, back up, and you know, his truck
into the driveway and and so all I heard was, well,
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we were talking, hey, are you a gang banger? And
Brian goes what he goes, are you a m gang banger?
And Brian goes, no, my truck driver. I just and
then you know that's saying no. That was that was
when I heard that, and then ran on out, told
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my wife called nine one one, get my phone, call
nine one one, come on out, and you.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Know, of course he was. He was gone.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Now at the time, we we we we After I
confronted him down the road, we got Brian out, started
doing CPR and trying and yeah, I did take about
you know, twenty minutes, over twenty minutes for the the.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Cops to get here.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
They were kind of confused with all the shootings that
had happened with this gentleman he when he when I
came out, the only gun I could get at the time,
of course, I said, my email was my twenty five.
I had my my colt in the house, but I
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didn't know if I had enough time, you know, and
and I'd left another one with my brother, uh, you know,
mistakenly in his truth.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I didn't mean to, but my nine that would have helped.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But when I saw him come around. The only reason
why I didn't the fire this what kills me. There
was other neighbors back behind, and I was afraid of
you know what was the ricochet was something that happens
with that hits one of my mind papers behind.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That that.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And so the only thing I could do was to
give the description to the cops. Now they had the
tapes and everything else. So he blasts around the corner.
My wife is in the truck trying to unbuckle brian seatbelt.
Laurie's wife was on the other side, and he comes
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holding but past my wife, and I was so afraid
that he was going to hit her. And then, you know,
thank God Lord get out when she did.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But Wade hold on just a moment. George Benard Shore
and the words that were taken by Robert F. K.
These children speak Chinese.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And Bannist and Michael Verry H.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Wade Gola is our guests mom throwing a little collective
soul in on us story of a shooting that he
was involved with. Wait, I didn't understand why this person
began this shooting spree.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
At first, we didn't either, you know. Was what we
learned afterwards was, uh, he worked for a tattoo parlor
and this all stem from his uh, his girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He was a jealous, jealous soul.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I guess he two weeks for a week beforehand, he
had lured one of the guys that he works with
at the tattoo parlor and his girlfriend out to the
old field off of Evergreen and in the back of the.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Where some of the old ridge are.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
He he had shot and killed them two a week beforehand,
and you know, nobody knew about it. You know this,
you know this, And then they found them, I believe
two days after Brian was shot. I'd have to look
back on that one and see. But then he had
he was sick, man.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
He he burnt a cat alive and he had got
charges on that.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Uh. Then he had beat up his his girlfriend because
this Austin from I believe he thought she was cheaping
on him, and so then he had put her in
the hospital. She was in the hospital or if they
wouldn't allow him to come see her. So he got
into a rage. Now how he got that gun, You
know if he was a felon, I don't know, but
you know he had the gun, you know, a forty
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cawl pistol, and it was pure just rage. And then
what it was why he shot the gentleman in the
head because the guy cut him off when he was
trying to pull out, and he was, I believe, a
neighbor of his. They lived, you know, kind of close
to each other. And Brown was just sitting in his
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truck talking to me. You know, there was no he
didn't do nothing to the gentleman, know nothing, you know,
he was just sitting here and I come to find out.
I believe the reason why he didn't ran his truck
against me or try to hit me, I was across
the street in somebody else's yard.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Point line still have him or or he I believe
he had ran out of bullets.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Uh when when he fired in the brine, that was
his last four bullets. And at the time I didn't
know it, but we had found one of the maintenance
workers that works around here. He had went on over
there and was cleaning out stuff, and even the cops
missed it.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Found a gun.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
We the whole time for weeks or a month or so.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We we thought maybe he had threw it in the water,
maybe you know it, We just didn't know where it was.
The cops couldn't find a gun. Nobody could find a gun.
And the maintenance worker he found it and turned it in,
thank god. But he found it in a vent. It
was a trailer they lived in, so you know, he
had put it way down deep in the event. And
how he found that and the cops didn't find out,
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I have no idea, but uh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, that got away. When you approach him, he gets away.
And do we know where he goes from there?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So when he took that that corner and he started
headed towards my wife and Lorie, I gave the descriptions
to the cops because I was on the phone with
the cops the whole time, and I told him the
license plate number and the color of car. Well, the
copts were already working the scene and had an ambulance
and everything down the road from where that gentleman was
struck in the head, so they were already there when
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he comes out and comes down the road, because like
I said, there's one bridge on, one bridge off and
it all happened right before it curved, before you get
to Evergreen, this is where it all happened. They opened
fire on them because they already knew it was a
dodge of gold color with this licensed blade, and so
they already had a description. They knew he was coming
down because I told him.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I said, he's.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Heading and you know, he's hauling ass down the road
right now. I said, he's coming to y'all. You know,
because I could look on the back side of my
property and see the main road, so I could see
him going down the road. And so I was hauling
and you know, on the phone with them and uh
what the cop that that that When they finally came
on over here and I talked to him and everything else,
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he said, well, you killed him. I said, no, sorry,
I did. And he goes, no, you did. He said
we we we we got him, he says, and and
what he said, we we we also you know, put
the dogs on as well. I was like, well, you know,
at the time, you know, that makes you a little bit.
You know, he's gone, he can't hurt nobody else.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
So but I didn't. I didn't believe that I did it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You know, I believe I was helped in, you know,
making sure he wasn't going to do it again.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
But I don't think well, did.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
The autopsy show that there was a twenty five around
twenty five round?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
No, no, no, see, my I did never. I never
did discharge my my farm. I never did. Now, what
he shot Brian with was a forty cow. And so
once we got Brian out, we we started DOINGPR. Cops came,
they did CPR, ambulance finally came about thirty forty minutes later.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
They finally showed up.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I mean, and so they said that he had a
slight heartbeat, which I call bull on that because we
know what the autopsy is now. But what it was.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Was when.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm sorry, when when when he was shot with the
autopsy it blasted a whole rope to his heart, I
mean blasted to his heart, went through his boslngs, hit
his spine as well.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Was one of the other one.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I think the last one just missed them all together
and hit the hit the door, and so.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And so. At the time they were doing CPR, they
said they got slight heartbeat, so they life lighted them.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They took him down the road, they got him on
so we were thinking there.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Was a chancel, you know, chance that he made survive,
but there was none. He was pretty much dla when.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
They got them to Memorial and uh, and that was
that was it on on.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But we didn't know that at the.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Time, you know, it was it was still yeah, you know,
we're just trying to do everything. We cared tops. You know,
they they the Beyton PD got Loria out and got
her to the hospital. They had shut down the whole road. Uh,
there was nobody going in and out of here till
I believe it was like three four o'clock.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
In the morning when they finally opened up everything.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well that's a story, that's for sure. That is that
is a story. Thank you for the message, Thank you
for sharing it with us. You know, I am increasingly
of the belief that we are too protective of people
who are in the middle of committing crimes. We make
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our officers wait too long, we show too much restraint.
You don't want somebody else being hit in the crossfire.
But I am increasingly of the opinion that we need
more aggressive policing when someone is in the commission of
violent crimes, and much much harsher approaches to like to
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smash and grab folks in San Francisco, the evil, evil
stunt cycle rum ideal. I suppose this is irony or
the sort of nonsense that we have tolerated for too
long in this country. That needs to come to an end,
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and that means some Republicans are going to have to
be booted out of office, and it means people like
Greg Abbott is going to actually have to do something.
Yesterday day, the State House approved ivermectin over the counter.
You know that horse paste. You don't want to take
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that if you have COVID it's horse paste. Remember do
you know how many lives were saved because of it?
And that happened in the same week that Mary Tally
Boden is being punished by the Texas Medical Association for
prescribing ivermectin because they don't want you prescribing ivermectin because
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the pharmaceutical companies don't get paid for that, just like
with hydroxy chloroquin. Mary Taly Boden joins us for a
brief update on this case. She was our guest a
few days ago. How did you react when you get
the news that ivermectin over the counter has gone over
the counter. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Stunned, a little stunned.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I didn't think it would ever happen in Texas after
everything that that drug has put me through.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And how does it work? And why does it work?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Well, it has twenty mechanisms of action. But the key
thing with covid, and actually this is true with any
RNA virus, it blocks the virus from entering the nucleus
of the cell and also inhibits an enzyme that the
virus needs to replicate, So it has broader applications than
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just covid. It's it's truly an amazing drug, and it
has a lot of anti inflammatory actions as well.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
We call those off label applications.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
She hates when I talk medicine makes her crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So why was?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Do you know why it was originally used for horses?
If you don't, it's okay. I'm kind of curious how
that started.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I don't know exactly why. I mean, because you know
pair sites, but I don't know that it.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Was originally I think it came in combination. I don't
know that it was first used on animals from what I.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Understand, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
So let me understand who, I mean, who would be
a person that might use over the counter ivermectin. Is
this someone that is already sick and if so with
what or is this a prophylactic approach to overall good
health and warding off viruses.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Well, yeah, honestly, it's the best thing we have for
the common cold at this point. So I see it
being used in that in that facility, it's you know,
people are starting to use it for cancer. It's not
something that I am treating with because I just don't
do a lot of cancer in my practice. But I
do see a lot of people getting ivermectin from the
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fees store or Mexico or India to take for can sir,
And you know we're hearing, Yeah, I'm seeing benefits with
the vaccine injured. I had a patient the other day
who I've been trying to help for four years now,
I mean just really severe symptoms and we finally had
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a breakthrough by going on a much higher dose of
ibermectum than I would have normally given him and he
finally got relief. So I'm see, you know, I see
the vaccine injured daily in my office. So we still
have a lot of work to do ivermecin. This is
a big win, but we really need to get these
mRNA shots pulled off the.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Market, agreed, And they're continuing to jab. Let's talk about
you put something up the other day, your suggestion to
people to find out if they have spike proteins, and
I think you said they could go to lab Quest
or wherever else and get a basic test done. Can
you explain that.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yeah, so it's lab Core and I would not go
to QUEST because the cut off at QUEST is much lower.
But at lab Core you can test your spike protein
and a body level.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
And we don't have a way to directly.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Measure spike protein. And the theory is and the people
that got the shots that the body is continuing to
produce spipe protein and that's why they continue to have
these symptoms. So the next best thing to measuring the
spike protein itself is to measure the body's response to that,
which is a spike protein.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And a body level.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
And what I am finding and the patients that got
the shots, and these are people, you know, for the
most part, in my practice, I'm seeing people that got two,
maybe three shots total, but years following these shots their
sky their spike protein antibody levels are sky high. Like
when I compared those that got the shots to those
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that didn't get the shots, the spike protein and a
body level is ten times higher than the people and
the people that got the shots than the people that didn't.
And in some case, in many cases I looked at it,
seven percent, the level was so high that it could
not be measured by the test, So over twenty five thousand,
which is not normal when you've gotten a shot so
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long ago and you haven't had a recent infection. It's
a very stark difference in what we're seeing and it
deserves further research.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Do you think that people are dying today currently from
side effects of the COVID shot that they took in say,
spring of twenty one, for four and a half years later.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Unfortunately, yes, when you look at all calls, mortality data
continues to rise, disability data continues to rise. Unfortunately, the
government won't give us up to date cancer data. They're
giving us projections based on old data, but they're not
giving us the most recent data. But from what I'm
hearing amongst friends of mine at M. D. Anderson is
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it's alarming. The cancer and the young people. Advanced stage
cancer presenting in young people is something you know more
than they've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
All right, I've got about a minute. I want to
pin you down on this where exactly is what exactly
is the state of your practice. I know they've been
trying to finish you off. You are currently practicing? Are
you able to continue practicing?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Yeah, I've moved my office to the west side of
town Spring Branch.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Area, and yeah, I've.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Signed a least for three years, so I'll go for
at least that long until they can't let me.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, I don't think they're going to take my
license away. And this fight is probably going.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
To take years. I mean, I have to appeal to
the state District Court and then from there I may
have to appeal to the Texas Supreme Court. And it's
already been four years having them made it to that point,
so hopefully.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I can at least write out the three year lease.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You and I spoke by email before you were on recently,
and I was under the impression you were no longer
some time ago, no longer accepting new patients as you
dealt with all this. Then a number of people flooded
me with emails wanting to get in. Are you accepting
new patients? And how do people go about that? I
will say on your behalf so you don't have to.
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I know that you became a little frustrated that you
wanted to practice medicine and not have political rallies, and
a lot of people began reaching out wanting to talk
politics and medical politics and all of that when you
wanted to be a practicing physician. So you want to
weed that out. I get it. You want people who
need your medical care. But I've got thirty seconds. How
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do people who want to come and see you see you?
Speaker 5 (24:58):
That's why it's to call or email our office front
desk at breathemd dot org or seven one three four nine.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Two two three four zero.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I do not accept new patients online anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And that had something to do with that. Yeah, you
take the longest to answer after I asked a question
TD guests I've ever had, Mary Tellygrodon, thank you for
ben our guests. So it appears we have a cult
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here in Houston, and the ministry leaders have been arrested,
including these self proclaimed apostle as. The FBI has rated
their Northwest Houston Campus. The story from KHOU. I think
it's definitely some coal life activities.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
That's how Vincent Escobido describes what he's seen next door
at this former hotel along the North Freeway. The FBI
raiding the property Wednesday, which federal prosecutors say is one
of nine locations tied to the Kingdom of God Global Church,
a so called religious ministry at the center of a
nationwide investigation the FBI.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They're calling out to them on megaphones and stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I heard that authorities in North Carolina and Florida today
arresting the self professed leaders of the organization, fifty three
year old David Taylor and fifty six year old Michelle Brannan.
Federal prosecutors say they ran call centers in Michigan, Florida, Texas.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And Missouri.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
This indictment alleging they forced their unpaid victims to reach
out for unobtainable monetary donation amounts and would punish them
if they failed to reach those goals. The punishments purportedly
including food restrictions, humiliation, and physical and psychological assaults. The
victims also allegedly forced to sleep in the call centers
and other ministry houses and unable to leave without permission
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something Escubido says he believes.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
He's so it just kind of weird stuff seeing people
from the window, and like whenever you notice them back
to kind of like look away or get away from
the window. That's that's definitely odd. I never really saw
anyone actually leave the place.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Federal prosecutor say this scheme pulled in fifty million dollars
in donations since twenty fourteen. A lot of that money
allegedly spent on luxury properties, luxury vehicles, boats, jet skis,
and ATVs.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Isn't that always what they do? Why is it when
people get easy money, it's always sports cars and boats
and some motorcycles and some ATVs. I'm gonna call Philip
Orange at Houston Motorsports and ask him what percentage of
(27:48):
people that are coming in are people that are engaged
in mortgage fraud or like some huge scam. And it
always worries me when the things I think are cool
are things that those people think are cool. You know,
we used to do a little bit when when somebody
(28:14):
when the death penalty was enforced the state of Texas
used to have this real cool deal where they would
before you were to be put to death. The next
day they go, we're gonna put you to death because
you committed capital murder. You're a bad guy, and for that,
(28:39):
we're gonna murder you. But before we murder you, like
a capon, we're gonna stuff you full of how much
food you want make a list, and so we would
read the list and you would guess whether the person
was black or white. And the fact is you'd never
know because it was always fried chicken. You could order
(29:03):
whatever you want, fried chicken, stay, watermelon, ice cream, turnip greens,
corn bread. And I don't know about you, but I've
had situations. When I was growing up, there was a
Ramada inn on iten. It's still there, but now it's
some Indian gowns and it's like the I don't know,
(29:26):
remodeled in or something. It's bad. It's been hit by
the flood two many times. And when my dad would
work a shutdown, he'd take a little portion. That means
he'd work all weekend long not leave there, so he
wouldn't get a weekend. I would just stay and work
because they would shut down the plant or a shutdown
as it was referred to, and they would shut down
the plant and clean everything. And he liked it because
(29:48):
it was he could make a little extra money. And
they would do that before school started and before Christmas,
the two times the working man needs money the most.
And when he would do that, the next Saturday it
would be a little treat. We would go to the
Ramana End. They had a seafood buffet and I don't
(30:11):
remember how much it costs, but we could not eat
after about four o'clock on Friday, because by God, we
were spending good money. Probably wasn't that much, but it
was a lot of money to my parents to go
to the Ramanta End to have a seafood buffet. And
on Saturday, you woke up, you have water and that
was it. And you didn't need to overdo the water
(30:32):
because we were going there to punish that place. When
we walked out of there, they were going to go,
oh man, let's not let them back. Get here again,
them people. And there were things you were not allowed
to put on your plate because those are filler. That
would be hushpuppies, that would be French fries, that would
(30:54):
be salad. You were to go for the catfish and
the shrimp maximum damage done. And I can remember being
frustrated that I couldn't eat as much as I wanted
to because somehow that that was gonna make it better. Well,
this cult got us to talking. On the show, Comedian
Maria Bamford has a bit about always wanting to join
(31:17):
a cult.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Sometimes I get kind of a bad attitude at work.
Stop being a team player. Forget why I started temping
in the first place, which is to make a difference.
Remember one day, one day, I was a sitting in
the employee kitchen drinking non dairy creamer straight from the curtain,
(31:40):
and a girlfriend she came out to me and she said, Hey, Maria,
I've been taking this class that's really changed my life.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Would you like to come tonight at a seven thirty
pm with the DoubleTree Santa Monica.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
There's no obligation and it's free. Cheryl joined your cult.
I always wanted to be in one. You know, get
to wear a uniform. You have any major life questions,
check the manual.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
There is a God, there is a plan, and the
spaceship is coming. We went at least have you know
with the Guru.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
She said, Maria, what's something you want to make manifest
in your life, like a new car.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
What do you really want? A new car? What do
you really want?
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Toyota four Runner SR five Limited leather that runs on
dreams and starlight. She got mad at me because I
didn't have the cash for the brainwash weekend. Ray, Let's
think of all the ways we can get four hundred
and ninety five dollars tonight.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Do you have a charge card? Nope? Do you have
something you could sell? I bet my soul might be
worth something. Is there is there anyone you could borrow
it from?
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Oh man, if you could spot me.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
So we were talking about this story as we prepped,
and we decided we want to hear from former cult
members or families of cult members. Priority given to former
cult members. No, no, not cowboy fans successful cults. Were
you a leader or a follower? What made you join
(33:28):
the cult? How did you get out? What claims did
the leader make? Were they God? Or they had the dream?
Seven one three nine nine nine one thousand seven one
three nine nine nine one thousand seven one three nine
nine nine one thousand. Oh, we're going to fiss the
Mormons off because somebody's gonna call up
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