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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time, Luck and load. The Michael Vary Show is on
the air.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Swing Sweet.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Comes, Sweete.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Comes.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Car.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Two days ago, my husband Charlie went to see the
face of his Savior, and he's gone.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Charlie always said.
Speaker 7 (00:57):
That when he was gone, he he wanted to be
remembered for his courage and for his pains. Yeah, women, sweetman,
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And one of the final conversations that he had on
this earth, my husband witnessed.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
For his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Now and for
all eternity, he will stand at his Savior's side wearing
the glorious crown of a murder Sweet.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
He was the perfect father, He was the perfect husband.
Charlie always believed that God's design for marriage and the
family was absolutely amazing.
Speaker 8 (02:03):
And it is, it is, and it was the greatest
shoy of his life.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Before we grow, open the lines in just a moment,
think about what you're going to say. Before you do so,
assume you're on the line when I ask.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You to be.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
If you're not, only you lose, but if you are,
you waste the time of a lot of people. Compose
what you're going to say in your mind and rehearse
it a few times. These are the days where talk
radio shines, where you get to hear the disparate voices
of the people you pass on the road, and you
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always wondered it's going through their mind? How did they
get to where they are today? What shaped them and
molded them and inspired them and scarred them to make
them the juror they are, the voter that they are,
the neighbor that they are, And get to your point
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quickly if you find yourself saying, oh, this one's going
to take a while, let's take a while to take
it and not do it today. Seven one three nine
nine nine one thousand seven one three nine nine nine
one thousand. So when people say to me, I never
heard of Charlie Kirk, my response to that is, isn't
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that wonderful? When they think I'm crazy. I have a
tendency to feel that every bit of good music out
there that has ever existed that I'm possibly going to like,
I've already heard. Therefore, I don't go seeking new music.
And when I do hear something that I haven't heard
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before that I really enjoy, it is delightful because there
is still something left in the world to experience. Imagine
when you've done everything and there's no more mountain to climb.
So if you never heard of Charlie Kirk, you have
a whole body of work you get to go explore now.
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But it also means, and this is important, if you
never heard of Charlie Kirk, who else haven't you heard of?
Who else haven't you heard of? Do you honestly think
you hadn't heard of Charlie Kirk before? And now you've
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heard of him, and you're blown away by his ministry
and you think he's the only one because he was martyred.
When Rush passed, a number of people sent me emails
because they had listened to Rush, literally for decades, some
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of them from really the national syndication day was August first,
eighty eight. There were folks that have been listening to
him since eighty nine or ninety and here it was
February seventeenth, twenty twenty one, thirty three years after national syndication.
In fact, I even heard from a few folks that
had listened to him in Sacramento when he will before
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he was syndicated. But what one of the things that
bothered me that I would receive was this is it,
this is the end. No one will do what Rush
has done. And they mean that as a compliment, and
so I don't respond, but I just internalized, which can't
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be healthy. It's like holding in a sneeze. I just
go know there will be another rush. There must be
another rush. It's important that there's another rush. It does
not dishonor rush that there be another rush. There needs
to be another rush. And so after Charlie's assassination, I
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heard from people that basically this was the first and
last activist minister truth teller, and it was important that
we understand that. I understand that this was never going
to happen again. But it's just not true. There are
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plenty of others. That does not diminish the contributions Charlie
Kirk made. It should excite you. Isaac Newton famously said,
if I have seen further, it is only by standing
on the shoulders of giants. Charlie Kirk wasn't plopped into
the public sphere on his own. He learned from others
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and he took that and he carried the ball down
the field and now he pitches it off and others
will carry the torch as it should be. There are
a lot of good people doing good work out there.
The only thing they can't get is an audience to
pay attention. Because we like the validation of the fact
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that that's the person we're told who's the best. So
if I just like them, then I'm in safe space.
There are preachers who are bringing messages to church every
Sunday that deserve to be amplified based purely on the
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merit of their work. There are elected officials who, in
their own lane, we have a tendency to think that
one person should be the be all end all, and
everyone else pails in comparison to them. But that's not true.
That's not how you build an army. You don't just
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need infantry or just artillery. You build a great sports team.
You can't have a whole team of a pitching staff.
Somebody's got to catch for them. And you don't build
an army to take back your country based purely on
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the guy who speaks to young people on campuses, or
the guy who speaks to this group, or that we
need and want and should have all of them all
right to the phone long seven one three one thousand,
seven one thousand, even folks trying to live off the
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glory of the Charlie Kirk moment feel the need this.
This is how intense the indoctrination is. They feel the
need to say, as you toss governor did Yeah, Charlie
Kirk said some What was the word he used? It
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was an offensive word, provocative things, but suggesting that he
was out, you know, threatening to kill people sort of things.
He said some some something things. I can't remember the word.
I'll find it or maybe somebody I'll find it and
send it to me. This was the governor of Utah
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who has managed to jump to the front of the
stage like Sheila Jackson.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
Lee throughout the process. Oh Charlie, I love you, Charlie. Charlie, Charlie.
This is the example of what not to do. We
love Charlie, Charlie is great. We love Charlie, Charlie. Charlie, Charlie.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Do a simple search of the comments Charlie Kirk made
about the woke governor of Utah. Now, I know we're
not supposed to say this, because I've heard a number
of the gatekeepers from the National Review crowd say all
the right wing is still not skipping an opportunity to
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criticize the governor of Utah. He has been so strong
this week. Sure he has, he's been great, but that
does not undo and a moment of it slipped out.
A moment of it slipped out when he said, yeah,
Charlie has said some strange or crazy I can't remember
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the word. I found it very offensive the way he
described that. It was setting up what was supposed to
be a compliment, but that's not what it did. It
was first burnishing his credentials with the Mitt Romney Bush
wing of the Republican Party. What he was saying was, look,
I'm not getting in bed with the Trump folks. I'm
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just saying, you can't assassinate someone, so let me do
it this way.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
I realize this guy's a kook, RaSE, he's nuts roze,
he's out there and he's inflammatory, and he's setting in
the world on fire.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
But we need to be civilized and you shouldn't kill him. Okay,
how'd I do?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
How do I do?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Guys? How'd I do?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And that's what he did, to which I respond, what
of what he said was so bad? When you have
been brainwashed to such an extent you fear your own
thoughts such that you don't give voice to them. So
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you teach yourself to not even think thoughts that it
would affect upset the other side. You teach yourself not
to speak ill and not to speak positive of someone
who has been vilified. What I say, Oh, inflammatory, yes, inflammatory?
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What's so inflammatory about them? Most of what Charlie Kirk
talked about, it's very upsetting to the left. I spent
a lot of time digging into this. The thing that
he said to upset people the most was talking about
being the person God made you to be, being who
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you were born. You weren't indoctrinated in that, you weren't
coached or coaxed into being what God made you. Those
are your chromosomes. There was no doubt about that. And
to simply say, hey, you don't have to hate yourself,
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you don't have to undertake these very painful, irreversible surgical procedures.
Love yourself for who you are, imperfect in every way,
who you are. Self love was supposed to be the
mantra of the left. Self indulgence, self acceptance. That's the eat, pray,
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love woman, that's her mantra. I'm a middle aged woman
that doesn't enjoy sleeping with the man I'm next to
because he got fat and bald, and he's not glamorous,
and we're not jet sitting around the world. So I'll
leave him, and I'll drink what i want, and I'll
smoke what I want, and i'll take what drugs I want,
and I'll sleep with however many people I want to
whenever I want to. The hedonistic self love the self
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god of narcissists. Charlie was simply saying, you're a child
of God. I love you for who you are, and
so should you and for that. So what's inflammatory about that?
Guarantee you? The governor didn't know what is inflammatory. Stephen King,
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the author wrote when a tribute was paid to Charlie Kirk,
he said he literally encouraged stoning the gaze, to which
reaction was show that to me, everything he said was videoed.
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He was brilliant in that way. He wasn't going to
create content twice. If he was in public, they were
filming it, they were putting it out there. He generated
more content in his few years than anybody because of that,
because he was smart. Why replicate it? Give your army
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all they need here it is. Here's me speaking here,
here's me speaking here. Here's me meeting the people before
during after shaking hands, doing autograph signings. Here's me backstage
before I go. It was brilliant, absolutely brilliant. It's like
a one.
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Male reality TV show.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So you can't say he said something unless you can
point to it, because if he said it such that
you would have heard it, it's in print or it's
on video, and it's not there because he didn't say it.
In fact, he said the opposite of that. The grapers
hated him because he didn't hate the homos and he
didn't hate the trainees. He said, I love you, I
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love you for who you are. I think that this
act is sinful, but I love you for who you are,
and I want you to love you for who you
are because that's what my Bible teaches me. So to
say that he was for stoning the gays. Stephen King
comes back later. He apologizes, said he was wrong within
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an hour. He's back to it. Not because he heard
Charlie Kirk say stone the Gaze. Who says stone the
Gaze in twenty twenty five, by the way, but not
that he ever, who even speaks ill of the gays. Honestly,
who even calls for violence against gays today? No kidding,
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nobody does. So you're already making a fool of yourself
by saying that. It is almost as if you so
desperately want that to be the case. The appetite for
hate is far greater than the supply of it, and
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so they make up for it out of whole call.
All right, to your calls we go, coming up, from
levicians to librarians. Everyone listens to Michael Verry show.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I'm must.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Rush. Limbaugh, even in death, was described as right wing
talk show host. Same with me, Hannity Levin back.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
We're all right wing talk show hosts. We're not just
talk show hosts. It's important you understand, here's the lane
of talk show hosts. We're over in the ditch. We're
the ones that pervert it. We're not allowed to be
discussed as talk show hosts. We're the weirdos. Well, that's odd,
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because when you talk about left wing talk show hosts,
nobody calls them that they're just talk show hosts. That's
true of politicians, media influencers, talkers. It doesn't matter. They've
won the brain game. It is an act of defiance
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to say something nice about Charlie Kirk. That's how powerful
they are. Their greatest power is in convincing you. They're
not wielding it. They are steering everything at all times.
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As a minority, it was such incredible seething hatred for
Saddam Hussein because he represented a very small portion of
the population. But they had the levers of power and
they kept that power. The Saudi royal family does the same,
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and that happens in this country as well. The governor
saying that Charlie Kirk says inflammatory things, but he didn't
deserve to be assassinated, and that too a week when
he has tried every way possible to associate himself inextricably
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with Charlie Kirk. The amazing, the amazing, how that works. Tom,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Go ahead, Tom, mister Barry, I appreciate you taking a call.
Thank you. Simply enough. Two thousand years ago a man
was persecuted for telling the truth, and here we are
on Sunday. Our pastor compared the deception all the way
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back to the Garden of Eden and realized that Satan
has been blaming everybody else for the problem, except Satan himself.
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When Adam was in the garden, he said, the woman
gave me the fruit, and the woman said, well, the
serpent told me to take it. It was okay. Everybody deflected,
everybody blamed somebody else, and here we are. Nothing's changed.
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We as Christians just need to be steadfast and stand
our ground and continue to be steadfast.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Steadfast such a good word because it suggests something more
than a shirt short and frenzied outburst of emotion. It
suggests that it is continuous. We I think we're very
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good at being angry, and it's self indulgent. We're very
good at being angry because we can have this extreme
anger and in a week it's forgotten. So I've received
a lot of messages from people and I'm not angry enough.
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I'm like expressing that anger, to which I respond, in
two weeks, I'll still be at this, and you'll be
over on sports radio, or you'll be doing your fantasy league,
or you'll have moved on. At Las Stevenson Bad Politics
Great Wordsmith famously said patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts
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of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the
tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime. Yes, I am
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happy to see people being fired for celebrating the assassination
of a fellow American. Yes, i am happy to see
their teeth gnashing. I'm happy to see their frustration and
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anger and sense of betrayal. I'm happy to see them
marginalized from polite society, because polite society doesn't have a
face to it. It's the large and madding crowd, each
one of whom makes up that people don't recognize. When
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the New York Yankees were the first to put Charlie
Kirk's picture on their jumbo dron, the rest of the
league gasped, we can't do that, can we? And whether
they Cooter couldn't do that wasn't going to be determined
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in the owner's meetings during the off season. It wasn't
going to be determined by the billionaire owners. It was
going to be determined by the guys shopping behind you
in HB and the person in front of you at
the gas pump and you. And what the New York Yankees,
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in a step of great strength, showed is that if
we do what we believe in, others will follow. If
we show the people what they want, they'll follow. If
we wait on the people to show us, they may
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never lead. What's happened since then, Oh, they can't get
in on it fast enough. Cede Lamb called for the
cowboys to do it. They delayed another day, and then
finally they said they would. Stores are making the most
of this. Politicians are now speaking out, but the internet
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is forever. Are you the guy that called to silence
Charlie kirk or called him the worst of our instincts?
How long ago was that? Sixty days? You think we
don't remember. What you're seeing is that it's okay to
speak out when you make it okay to speak out.
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But when you run out, fire off a few rounds,
and are run back and hide in your bunker, you
don't own the neutral ground. You've got to take it,
hold it, claim it, and defend it all day, every day.
And that's not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion.
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That is continuous and constantly.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
With his finger on the pulse, king up team continues
on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
The Good Time.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
David, You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, David, David,
you may have your hand on the mute button. Could
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be choked up, could be choked, could be choked with no.
Guy Lewis here too, with three strikes. Think to yourself,
what if Guy Lewis had taken two swings at that
and then decided, you know what, I'm gonna take a
couple of pitches. What if he hadn't reared back and said,
I'm swinging for the fences on this one. David, would
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you like to contribute? The problem is his name is
not David. You've written his name as David, but his
name is Fabian or some other long huh oh, here
we go.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
No, it's a different David.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Hello, I'm David.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Are you the same David that was just it? I'm David.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I'm the David that's got the miracle. I'm the guy
that's got the miracle. They put on hold and then
sent me off to some place. It was a hair
salon or something. No it was no, it was a
pet place that I swear to God, I'm David and
I have a miracle and you can hold it in
your hand, you can see it. I swear to God
to you it's the truth. Michael Berry, please listen to me.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'll be honest with you. You're already three quarters on
my mind.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'm the guy.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Okay, okay, okay, I'm it.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I'm I got it. You won't believe it, sir, Michael,
I am David.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Put him a home.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Down.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Down. If somebody says I swear to God to make
their point, I already don't believe them. If somebody says
I'm not lying, you can ask so and so. I'm
not asking so and so, and I'm not believing you.
Calm down, speak quen spoken to, don't talk over me,
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and don't sound like a spaz. You've called before, and
Ramon already put bat blank crazy on there. So I'm
at the edge already. Okay, So just know you're on
double secret probation. You're that close to being block forever.
So with that in mind, use your inside voice. Slow down.
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This miracle that you're trying to hype yourself up about,
and hope I come along for the ride needs to
slow its roll. Now you got one shot.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Go ahead, David, look, and all I wanted to do
was send you pictures of it. And I didn't want
to sound like a freak or anything.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh you did that, David. I have an email address
that I on the air fifteen times a day. If
you wanted to send me pictures or something, why didn't
you send them?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Because all this stuff went down with Glenn Beck and
this stone I have held a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's why you didn't send it. No, no, David Holand
no no. Most people just tune you out as crazy.
I'm going to do you the favor or disfavor of
playing along. You told me I wanted to send you
photos of it, and I said why didn't you? You
have my email address, and you started telling me about
Glenn back. So you said you wanted to send me
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photos of it. Why didn't you, sir?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I met Glenn Beck. I send your name, Michael Barry because.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh, hold on, hold on, I got remote, give him
Glenn's number. You know what, you should call Glenn. That
would be great. Call Glenn and share this with him.
That's I'm sure Glenn would love your miracle rock. It
sounds like a wonderful idea. Let's go to Bertha. Bertha,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 10 (29:06):
Go ahead, Good morning, Michael. I am sorry for everybody's
laws losing mister Kirk. It's hit us all hard. And
you mentioned Anderson Cooper before. I've seen his picture. Don't
know who he is, don't listen to him or anybody
else like him. But I tried to read the Bible
every night and with other books related to the Bible,
and it seems like we're gonna have another archangel I've
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been having right now looking down and helping all of us.
And the same day mister Kirk was killed, I was
reading my Bible that night and I came across Chapter
nine and Ezekiel, and they talked about God sending an
angel to put a mark on the forehead of all
the believers. Only people to see these marks will be
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other believers. No one else will be able to see that.
And they're I'm trying to piece together old and New
Testaments because they do fit together to make one big picture.
Israel comes into this picture too, with what's happening in Israel.
All these things are connected. And now we see that
things that are being connected this way. There's want to
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be a few just a remnant of the israel people
left before the end times come, and Israeli people, the
Jews will be I guess they will have the mark
on them. At the bottom of the Bible. In my Bible,
there's a small caption that says what this mark sort
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of looks like, not quite it's supposed to be. I'm
not going to say what it is because I want
people to go in there read the whole chapter of Ezekiel.
If they have the little captionings in their Bible as
mind as it says what the mark probably will look like,
they as close as they could come to identifying it.
That mark is in there, and I just want people
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to go into that Bible and start reading the whole Bible,
because it all pulls together with the times.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Bertha, I don't know how many times you've spoken in public.
I don't know how many times you've spoken on a
talk show, but I get a sneaking suspicion that it
is not very often. And I am grateful that you
feel comfortable calling to share your testimony, your deep thoughts,
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your vision. That's not easy to do. It's not easy
to state something so deeply held in public. Good on you.
Good on you, Richard Jore on Michael Berry.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Show, Heyzur Yeah, one thing about Charlie, I want to
speak a little good but Charlie is he did there's
a doctor and that's called it security.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
He had internal security.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
He knew for sure that if he was killed, he
would be in the presence of God and that's where
the real blessings come. And on that subject, I wanted
to maybe, uh, you know, tell. You'll hear people say,
especially if they go to megachurches no offense, but well offense.
Maybe they're told that if you come, if you accept Jesus,
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if you trust in Jesus, he'll solve all your problems.
That's a false, that's false. He'll solve your eternal problem,
which would be if you don't trust him and your
attorney is very bad, you mean lake a fire. So
I think the problem with a lot of people is
they think that coming to Jesus will solve all the problems.
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They're temporal in this lot of problems, and that's just
not true. Unfortunately, it's not a popular message, but it's
biblical messages. He he stores up your blessings where in
heaven in this world you will have persecution, and you
will be hated because you love me. That's the message,
and it's not Papa Lung, but it's a true message.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Great radio voice, Richard and great point. Good Sir. You know,
it's a lot like physical health, spiritual health. It's a
lot like physical health. Things that hurt the most, the
things that burn the most, The things that will be
most rewarding are the things that are hardest to do
and hurt the most. That's what the health and wellness
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I mean, the Peace and Prosperity doctorate is. That's the people.
We won the game because God was on our side.
You've never read the Bible and you don't understand the
Christian faith.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
That's not my success.
It's that time, time, time.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Time, Luck and load. The Michael Vary Show is on
the air.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Swing Sweet.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Comes, Sweete.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Comes.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Car.
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Two days ago, my husband Charlie went to see the
face of his Savior, and he's gone.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Charlie always said.
Speaker 7 (00:57):
That when he was gone, he he wanted to be
remembered for his courage and for his pains. Yeah, women, sweetman,
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And one of the final conversations that he had on
this earth, my husband witnessed.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
For his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Now and for
all eternity, he will stand at his Savior's side wearing
the glorious crown of a murder Sweet.
Speaker 7 (01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
He was the perfect father, He was the perfect husband.
Charlie always believed that God's design for marriage and the
family was absolutely amazing.
Speaker 8 (02:03):
And it is, it is, and it was the greatest
shoy of his life.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Before we grow, open the lines in just a moment,
think about what you're going to say. Before you do so,
assume you're on the line when I ask.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You to be.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
If you're not, only you lose, but if you are,
you waste the time of a lot of people. Compose
what you're going to say in your mind and rehearse
it a few times. These are the days where talk
radio shines, where you get to hear the disparate voices
of the people you pass on the road, and you
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always wondered it's going through their mind? How did they
get to where they are today? What shaped them and
molded them and inspired them and scarred them to make
them the juror they are, the voter that they are,
the neighbor that they are, And get to your point
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quickly if you find yourself saying, oh, this one's going
to take a while, let's take a while to take
it and not do it today. Seven one three nine
nine nine one thousand seven one three nine nine nine
one thousand. So when people say to me, I never
heard of Charlie Kirk, my response to that is, isn't
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that wonderful? When they think I'm crazy. I have a
tendency to feel that every bit of good music out
there that has ever existed that I'm possibly going to like,
I've already heard. Therefore, I don't go seeking new music.
And when I do hear something that I haven't heard
(03:54):
before that I really enjoy, it is delightful because there
is still something left in the world to experience. Imagine
when you've done everything and there's no more mountain to climb.
So if you never heard of Charlie Kirk, you have
a whole body of work you get to go explore now.
(04:14):
But it also means, and this is important, if you
never heard of Charlie Kirk, who else haven't you heard of?
Who else haven't you heard of? Do you honestly think
you hadn't heard of Charlie Kirk before? And now you've
(04:36):
heard of him, and you're blown away by his ministry
and you think he's the only one because he was martyred.
When Rush passed, a number of people sent me emails
because they had listened to Rush, literally for decades, some
(04:57):
of them from really the national syndication day was August first,
eighty eight. There were folks that have been listening to
him since eighty nine or ninety and here it was
February seventeenth, twenty twenty one, thirty three years after national syndication.
In fact, I even heard from a few folks that
had listened to him in Sacramento when he will before
(05:20):
he was syndicated. But what one of the things that
bothered me that I would receive was this is it,
this is the end. No one will do what Rush
has done. And they mean that as a compliment, and
so I don't respond, but I just internalized, which can't
(05:42):
be healthy. It's like holding in a sneeze. I just
go know there will be another rush. There must be
another rush. It's important that there's another rush. It does
not dishonor rush that there be another rush. There needs
to be another rush. And so after Charlie's assassination, I
(06:04):
heard from people that basically this was the first and
last activist minister truth teller, and it was important that
we understand that. I understand that this was never going
to happen again. But it's just not true. There are
(06:25):
plenty of others. That does not diminish the contributions Charlie
Kirk made. It should excite you. Isaac Newton famously said,
if I have seen further, it is only by standing
on the shoulders of giants. Charlie Kirk wasn't plopped into
the public sphere on his own. He learned from others
(06:51):
and he took that and he carried the ball down
the field and now he pitches it off and others
will carry the torch as it should be. There are
a lot of good people doing good work out there.
The only thing they can't get is an audience to
pay attention. Because we like the validation of the fact
(07:12):
that that's the person we're told who's the best. So
if I just like them, then I'm in safe space.
There are preachers who are bringing messages to church every
Sunday that deserve to be amplified based purely on the
(07:34):
merit of their work. There are elected officials who, in
their own lane, we have a tendency to think that
one person should be the be all end all, and
everyone else pails in comparison to them. But that's not true.
That's not how you build an army. You don't just
(07:56):
need infantry or just artillery. You build a great sports team.
You can't have a whole team of a pitching staff.
Somebody's got to catch for them. And you don't build
an army to take back your country based purely on
(08:18):
the guy who speaks to young people on campuses, or
the guy who speaks to this group, or that we
need and want and should have all of them all
right to the phone long seven one three one thousand,
seven one thousand, even folks trying to live off the
(08:44):
glory of the Charlie Kirk moment feel the need this.
This is how intense the indoctrination is. They feel the
need to say, as you toss governor did Yeah, Charlie
Kirk said some What was the word he used? It
(09:07):
was an offensive word, provocative things, but suggesting that he
was out, you know, threatening to kill people sort of things.
He said some some something things. I can't remember the word.
I'll find it or maybe somebody I'll find it and
send it to me. This was the governor of Utah
(09:28):
who has managed to jump to the front of the
stage like Sheila Jackson.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
Lee throughout the process. Oh Charlie, I love you, Charlie. Charlie, Charlie.
This is the example of what not to do. We
love Charlie, Charlie is great. We love Charlie, Charlie. Charlie, Charlie.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Do a simple search of the comments Charlie Kirk made
about the woke governor of Utah. Now, I know we're
not supposed to say this, because I've heard a number
of the gatekeepers from the National Review crowd say all
the right wing is still not skipping an opportunity to
(10:13):
criticize the governor of Utah. He has been so strong
this week. Sure he has, he's been great, but that
does not undo and a moment of it slipped out.
A moment of it slipped out when he said, yeah,
Charlie has said some strange or crazy I can't remember
(10:34):
the word. I found it very offensive the way he
described that. It was setting up what was supposed to
be a compliment, but that's not what it did. It
was first burnishing his credentials with the Mitt Romney Bush
wing of the Republican Party. What he was saying was, look,
I'm not getting in bed with the Trump folks. I'm
(10:56):
just saying, you can't assassinate someone, so let me do
it this way.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
I realize this guy's a kook, RaSE, he's nuts roze,
he's out there and he's inflammatory, and he's setting in
the world on fire.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
But we need to be civilized and you shouldn't kill him. Okay,
how'd I do?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
How do I do?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Guys? How'd I do?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And that's what he did, to which I respond, what
of what he said was so bad? When you have
been brainwashed to such an extent you fear your own
thoughts such that you don't give voice to them. So
(11:39):
you teach yourself to not even think thoughts that it
would affect upset the other side. You teach yourself not
to speak ill and not to speak positive of someone
who has been vilified. What I say, Oh, inflammatory, yes, inflammatory?
(12:00):
What's so inflammatory about them? Most of what Charlie Kirk
talked about, it's very upsetting to the left. I spent
a lot of time digging into this. The thing that
he said to upset people the most was talking about
being the person God made you to be, being who
(12:25):
you were born. You weren't indoctrinated in that, you weren't
coached or coaxed into being what God made you. Those
are your chromosomes. There was no doubt about that. And
to simply say, hey, you don't have to hate yourself,
(12:46):
you don't have to undertake these very painful, irreversible surgical procedures.
Love yourself for who you are, imperfect in every way,
who you are. Self love was supposed to be the
mantra of the left. Self indulgence, self acceptance. That's the eat, pray,
(13:13):
love woman, that's her mantra. I'm a middle aged woman
that doesn't enjoy sleeping with the man I'm next to
because he got fat and bald, and he's not glamorous,
and we're not jet sitting around the world. So I'll
leave him, and I'll drink what i want, and I'll
smoke what I want, and i'll take what drugs I want,
and I'll sleep with however many people I want to
whenever I want to. The hedonistic self love the self
(13:39):
god of narcissists. Charlie was simply saying, you're a child
of God. I love you for who you are, and
so should you and for that. So what's inflammatory about that?
Guarantee you? The governor didn't know what is inflammatory. Stephen King,
(14:00):
the author wrote when a tribute was paid to Charlie Kirk,
he said he literally encouraged stoning the gaze, to which
reaction was show that to me, everything he said was videoed.
(14:20):
He was brilliant in that way. He wasn't going to
create content twice. If he was in public, they were
filming it, they were putting it out there. He generated
more content in his few years than anybody because of that,
because he was smart. Why replicate it? Give your army
(14:41):
all they need here it is. Here's me speaking here,
here's me speaking here. Here's me meeting the people before
during after shaking hands, doing autograph signings. Here's me backstage
before I go. It was brilliant, absolutely brilliant. It's like
a one.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Male reality TV show.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So you can't say he said something unless you can
point to it, because if he said it such that
you would have heard it, it's in print or it's
on video, and it's not there because he didn't say it.
In fact, he said the opposite of that. The grapers
hated him because he didn't hate the homos and he
didn't hate the trainees. He said, I love you, I
(15:18):
love you for who you are. I think that this
act is sinful, but I love you for who you are,
and I want you to love you for who you
are because that's what my Bible teaches me. So to
say that he was for stoning the gays. Stephen King
comes back later. He apologizes, said he was wrong within
(15:38):
an hour. He's back to it. Not because he heard
Charlie Kirk say stone the Gaze. Who says stone the
Gaze in twenty twenty five, by the way, but not
that he ever, who even speaks ill of the gays. Honestly,
who even calls for violence against gays today? No kidding,
(16:00):
nobody does. So you're already making a fool of yourself
by saying that. It is almost as if you so
desperately want that to be the case. The appetite for
hate is far greater than the supply of it, and
(16:20):
so they make up for it out of whole call.
All right, to your calls we go, coming up, from
levicians to librarians. Everyone listens to Michael Verry show.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I'm must.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Rush. Limbaugh, even in death, was described as right wing
talk show host. Same with me, Hannity Levin back.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
We're all right wing talk show hosts. We're not just
talk show hosts. It's important you understand, here's the lane
of talk show hosts. We're over in the ditch. We're
the ones that pervert it. We're not allowed to be
discussed as talk show hosts. We're the weirdos. Well, that's odd,
(17:19):
because when you talk about left wing talk show hosts,
nobody calls them that they're just talk show hosts. That's
true of politicians, media influencers, talkers. It doesn't matter. They've
won the brain game. It is an act of defiance
(17:40):
to say something nice about Charlie Kirk. That's how powerful
they are. Their greatest power is in convincing you. They're
not wielding it. They are steering everything at all times.
(18:03):
As a minority, it was such incredible seething hatred for
Saddam Hussein because he represented a very small portion of
the population. But they had the levers of power and
they kept that power. The Saudi royal family does the same,
(18:27):
and that happens in this country as well. The governor
saying that Charlie Kirk says inflammatory things, but he didn't
deserve to be assassinated, and that too a week when
he has tried every way possible to associate himself inextricably
(18:49):
with Charlie Kirk. The amazing, the amazing, how that works. Tom,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Go ahead, Tom, mister Barry, I appreciate you taking a call.
Thank you. Simply enough. Two thousand years ago a man
was persecuted for telling the truth, and here we are
on Sunday. Our pastor compared the deception all the way
(19:26):
back to the Garden of Eden and realized that Satan
has been blaming everybody else for the problem, except Satan himself.
(19:47):
When Adam was in the garden, he said, the woman
gave me the fruit, and the woman said, well, the
serpent told me to take it. It was okay. Everybody deflected,
everybody blamed somebody else, and here we are. Nothing's changed.
(20:09):
We as Christians just need to be steadfast and stand
our ground and continue to be steadfast.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Steadfast such a good word because it suggests something more
than a shirt short and frenzied outburst of emotion. It
suggests that it is continuous. We I think we're very
(20:43):
good at being angry, and it's self indulgent. We're very
good at being angry because we can have this extreme
anger and in a week it's forgotten. So I've received
a lot of messages from people and I'm not angry enough.
(21:04):
I'm like expressing that anger, to which I respond, in
two weeks, I'll still be at this, and you'll be
over on sports radio, or you'll be doing your fantasy league,
or you'll have moved on. At Las Stevenson Bad Politics
Great Wordsmith famously said patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts
(21:31):
of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the
tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime. Yes, I am
(22:00):
happy to see people being fired for celebrating the assassination
of a fellow American. Yes, i am happy to see
their teeth gnashing. I'm happy to see their frustration and
(22:20):
anger and sense of betrayal. I'm happy to see them
marginalized from polite society, because polite society doesn't have a
face to it. It's the large and madding crowd, each
one of whom makes up that people don't recognize. When
(22:42):
the New York Yankees were the first to put Charlie
Kirk's picture on their jumbo dron, the rest of the
league gasped, we can't do that, can we? And whether
they Cooter couldn't do that wasn't going to be determined
(23:02):
in the owner's meetings during the off season. It wasn't
going to be determined by the billionaire owners. It was
going to be determined by the guys shopping behind you
in HB and the person in front of you at
the gas pump and you. And what the New York Yankees,
(23:25):
in a step of great strength, showed is that if
we do what we believe in, others will follow. If
we show the people what they want, they'll follow. If
we wait on the people to show us, they may
(23:46):
never lead. What's happened since then, Oh, they can't get
in on it fast enough. Cede Lamb called for the
cowboys to do it. They delayed another day, and then
finally they said they would. Stores are making the most
of this. Politicians are now speaking out, but the internet
(24:08):
is forever. Are you the guy that called to silence
Charlie kirk or called him the worst of our instincts?
How long ago was that? Sixty days? You think we
don't remember. What you're seeing is that it's okay to
speak out when you make it okay to speak out.
(24:33):
But when you run out, fire off a few rounds,
and are run back and hide in your bunker, you
don't own the neutral ground. You've got to take it,
hold it, claim it, and defend it all day, every day.
And that's not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion.
(24:55):
That is continuous and constantly.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
With his finger on the pulse, king up team continues
on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
The Good Time.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
David, You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, David, David,
you may have your hand on the mute button. Could
(25:33):
be choked up, could be choked, could be choked with no.
Guy Lewis here too, with three strikes. Think to yourself,
what if Guy Lewis had taken two swings at that
and then decided, you know what, I'm gonna take a
couple of pitches. What if he hadn't reared back and said,
I'm swinging for the fences on this one. David, would
(25:56):
you like to contribute? The problem is his name is
not David. You've written his name as David, but his
name is Fabian or some other long huh oh, here
we go.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
No, it's a different David.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Hello, I'm David.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Are you the same David that was just it? I'm David.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I'm the David that's got the miracle. I'm the guy
that's got the miracle. They put on hold and then
sent me off to some place. It was a hair
salon or something. No it was no, it was a
pet place that I swear to God, I'm David and
I have a miracle and you can hold it in
your hand, you can see it. I swear to God
to you it's the truth. Michael Berry, please listen to me.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'll be honest with you. You're already three quarters on
my mind.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'm the guy.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Okay, okay, okay, I'm it.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I'm I got it. You won't believe it, sir, Michael,
I am David.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Put him a home.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Down.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Down. If somebody says I swear to God to make
their point, I already don't believe them. If somebody says
I'm not lying, you can ask so and so. I'm
not asking so and so, and I'm not believing you.
Calm down, speak quen spoken to, don't talk over me,
(27:17):
and don't sound like a spaz. You've called before, and
Ramon already put bat blank crazy on there. So I'm
at the edge already. Okay, So just know you're on
double secret probation. You're that close to being block forever.
So with that in mind, use your inside voice. Slow down.
(27:40):
This miracle that you're trying to hype yourself up about,
and hope I come along for the ride needs to
slow its roll. Now you got one shot.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Go ahead, David, look, and all I wanted to do
was send you pictures of it. And I didn't want
to sound like a freak or anything.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh you did that, David. I have an email address
that I on the air fifteen times a day. If
you wanted to send me pictures or something, why didn't
you send them?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Because all this stuff went down with Glenn Beck and
this stone I have held a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's why you didn't send it. No, no, David Holand
no no. Most people just tune you out as crazy.
I'm going to do you the favor or disfavor of
playing along. You told me I wanted to send you
photos of it, and I said why didn't you? You
have my email address, and you started telling me about
Glenn back. So you said you wanted to send me
(28:36):
photos of it. Why didn't you, sir?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I met Glenn Beck. I send your name, Michael Barry because.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh, hold on, hold on, I got remote, give him
Glenn's number. You know what, you should call Glenn. That
would be great. Call Glenn and share this with him.
That's I'm sure Glenn would love your miracle rock. It
sounds like a wonderful idea. Let's go to Bertha. Bertha,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 10 (29:06):
Go ahead, Good morning, Michael. I am sorry for everybody's
laws losing mister Kirk. It's hit us all hard. And
you mentioned Anderson Cooper before. I've seen his picture. Don't
know who he is, don't listen to him or anybody
else like him. But I tried to read the Bible
every night and with other books related to the Bible,
and it seems like we're gonna have another archangel I've
(29:30):
been having right now looking down and helping all of us.
And the same day mister Kirk was killed, I was
reading my Bible that night and I came across Chapter
nine and Ezekiel, and they talked about God sending an
angel to put a mark on the forehead of all
the believers. Only people to see these marks will be
(29:51):
other believers. No one else will be able to see that.
And they're I'm trying to piece together old and New
Testaments because they do fit together to make one big picture.
Israel comes into this picture too, with what's happening in Israel.
All these things are connected. And now we see that
things that are being connected this way. There's want to
(30:13):
be a few just a remnant of the israel people
left before the end times come, and Israeli people, the
Jews will be I guess they will have the mark
on them. At the bottom of the Bible. In my Bible,
there's a small caption that says what this mark sort
(30:34):
of looks like, not quite it's supposed to be. I'm
not going to say what it is because I want
people to go in there read the whole chapter of Ezekiel.
If they have the little captionings in their Bible as
mind as it says what the mark probably will look like,
they as close as they could come to identifying it.
That mark is in there, and I just want people
(30:55):
to go into that Bible and start reading the whole Bible,
because it all pulls together with the times.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Bertha, I don't know how many times you've spoken in public.
I don't know how many times you've spoken on a
talk show, but I get a sneaking suspicion that it
is not very often. And I am grateful that you
feel comfortable calling to share your testimony, your deep thoughts,
(31:29):
your vision. That's not easy to do. It's not easy
to state something so deeply held in public. Good on you.
Good on you, Richard Jore on Michael Berry.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Show, Heyzur Yeah, one thing about Charlie, I want to
speak a little good but Charlie is he did there's
a doctor and that's called it security.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
He had internal security.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
He knew for sure that if he was killed, he
would be in the presence of God and that's where
the real blessings come. And on that subject, I wanted
to maybe, uh, you know, tell. You'll hear people say,
especially if they go to megachurches no offense, but well offense.
Maybe they're told that if you come, if you accept Jesus,
(32:23):
if you trust in Jesus, he'll solve all your problems.
That's a false, that's false. He'll solve your eternal problem,
which would be if you don't trust him and your
attorney is very bad, you mean lake a fire. So
I think the problem with a lot of people is
they think that coming to Jesus will solve all the problems.
(32:46):
They're temporal in this lot of problems, and that's just
not true. Unfortunately, it's not a popular message, but it's
biblical messages. He he stores up your blessings where in
heaven in this world you will have persecution, and you
will be hated because you love me. That's the message,
and it's not Papa Lung, but it's a true message.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Great radio voice, Richard and great point. Good Sir. You know,
it's a lot like physical health, spiritual health. It's a
lot like physical health. Things that hurt the most, the
things that burn the most, The things that will be
most rewarding are the things that are hardest to do
and hurt the most. That's what the health and wellness
(33:35):
I mean, the Peace and Prosperity doctorate is. That's the people.
We won the game because God was on our side.
You've never read the Bible and you don't understand the
Christian faith.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
That's not my success.
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