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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, Luck and Load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Varry Show is.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
On the air.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
On the subject of shrimp. A Khou investigation a short
while back revealed that forty four restaurants in Galveston or Chema,
we're serving foreign shrimp. Why aren't you serving the shrimp

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from the water a foot away? We know why, it's cheaper,
it's frozen. But imagine that. Imagine you're having a shrimp
dinner in Keema or Galveston and you're eating I don't

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think they tell who the restaurants are, but you're eating
shrimp that's come from what, China or Thailand or this
was the story.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Galveston shrimping industry has been sinking for years. Trimpers say
the competition from cheaper, farm raised imported shrimp has driven
down the price per pound of Gulf shrimp so much
they're losing money each time they put gas in their boats.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
There used to be three hundred boats. I think now
there's seven, seven or eight in Galveston. That's sad. It's
just really sad.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Nikki Johnson Coons, also known as the Shrimp Diva, married
into a family of Galveston shrimpers that's made a living
fishing the waters the golf for generations. She wasn't surprised
to learn recent genetic tests performed on shrimp dishes at
forty four seafood restaurants in Galveston and Chema revealed nearly
sixty percent of them were serving shrimp that was imported

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and raised in farms abroad.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
It wasn't shocking the restaurants that failed. I hope that
they come around and to start doing what's right, not
lying to not lying to their customers.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Looking from the outside, you can't really see any difference.
If you just saw a dish with one of the
other items, you wouldn't be able to identify which one
as which.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Dave Williams is a commercial fishery scientist. He's also the
founder of Seed Consulting, the Houston based company that developed
a DNA testing process it says can determine a shrimp's
origin whether it's raw or cooked. Last year, the company
was contracted by the Southern Shrimp Alliance to investigate randomly
selected restaurants in Galveston and Chema that claimed or implied

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they served while old caught golf shrep.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
Fifty of the restaurant serving shrimp with serving the imported
farmery shrimp. Of those, approximately half of them actually said
that they were golf shrimp when they weren't.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
The rest william says, implied they were serving gold shrimp
through the restaurant's marketing. The Federal Trade Commission is the
authority that's supposed to enforce incidents of consumer fraud. The
agency declined or request for an interview today. However, on
its website, the FTC warrants restaurants they may be committing
fraud even by the decorations in their dining rooms like

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fishing nets and boats implying their seafood is caught locally.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
A kind of eating switch.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
I don't think it's fair.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Chris Lopez is the executive chef at Boulevard's Seafood on
the Galveston Sea Wall. His restaurant is among the little
more than a dozen tested by Seed that turned out
to actually be serving wild caught golf shrimp.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
If your toy is you come to Galvin you want
product from these waters.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
You don't want to come here and they get a
frozen product from somewhere.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Now, this makes no sense.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Instead of naming the restaurants that didn't pass the test.
Dave Williams says his company will be sending them letters first.
He's hopeful they'll make the changes on their own for
the sake of their customers and for the sake of
the Texas shrippers.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
And that, my friends, is how you got the American economy.
You see, wages around the world, historically, by historically, in
modern history, have been so much less than American wages.

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American wages are, in that sense, by international standards, artificially high,
which always meant a high standard of living. And they say, well,
it's all relative. What does it matter if you make
twenty dollars an hour here and five dollars an hour
in another country, if everything their cost a quarter is
much true, but it meant that you had international buying power.

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And that was why a middle class American could travel
to much of the world, not Norway or Japan, but
much of the world and think, wow, this is great.
Everything here is so cheap. But that has changed, and
you have seen a coincident rise in wages around the

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world and decrease or stagnation in American wages. And the
reason is because American companies stopped valuing American workers period,
end of story. So what happened was it's driven largely,
not exclusively, but largely by public companies. And public companies goal,

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and it's a noble goal, I'm not going to say
it's not, is to yield the greatest return on investment
that they possibly can, whether that's in the form of
a dividend paid directly to a shareholder, or whether that's
a form of a higher profitability that makes the stock
more desirable, which drives the stock price up. And by

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the way, typically the types of people making decisions are
large shareholders of stock, they're getting stock options all the while,
or just outright stock grants. So as one company says, hey,
it's a lot harder to grow revenues than it is
to cut costs. And that's why you've seen massive cost

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cutting across the country in the last ten years. Especially,
this has been going on since the eighties to this
degree where you're seeing that companies are finding ways to
simply eliminate every position they possibly can across the board.
Because every position you can eliminate there's a short term
cost in a payout. But even that, even though there

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is not a greater profitability. When there are layoffs but
no changes in output, you'll see an immediate rise in
the stock because the anticipation. So you bake in the
extra profits you're going to make in three, six, nine months.
Whenever those severance packages run out, the market will bake

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that in immediately, price that in immediately. So once one
company says we're no longer going to let's take by
local shrimp, then everybody else says we have to compete.
That was the whole game of illegal immigration. Once one
company started showing up being able to bid a construction

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project with illegal labor which was at a far lower
rate and no benefits, no social security, none of that stuff,
then the guy complying with the law couldn't compete. He couldn't,
especially when labor is the greatest cost in a construction project.
So that was going on for a number of years,
and I think that led to a lot of the
anti illegal sentiment is a lack of any sense of fairness.

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But the question becomes why doesn't the marketplace work? And
this is the one I struggle with. It frustrates me
because if the marketplace worked, consumers would say, is this
a local fit shrimp and if it's not, I don't
care that it's cheaper. I'm going somewhere that it is,
but they don't not so rich and famous are as.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I call it the Michael Berry Shows.

Speaker 7 (08:28):
On this day.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
In nineteen eighty six, Fox Broadcasting Company FBC launches as
the fourth US television network, after of course ABC, NBCCBS.
The first show broadcast on the network, the Late Show

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with Joan Rivers. That would be the end of her
friendship with Johnny Carson. Johnny Carson had mentored her, seem
to be very fond of her, believed she had a
great deal of talent. He would never speak of how
he felt when she left or when she took the

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position with her own late night show. He would never
speak of that, but she would, of course, being Joan
Rivers dish as I think the word was created for her,
maybe on the fact that he was very angry at her.
He cut her off. He went out of his way
to tell people that if you appear as her guest,

(09:35):
you'll never be on our show. Needless to say, he
took it very very personally, and I suppose your reaction
to that is up to you. You can say, well
that wasn't very big of him. He could have been gracious,
he could have helped her succeed. There were enough viewers
out there that everybody could have gotten along. It wasn't

(09:58):
going to really hurt his show at the end of
the day. And it was a sign of his success
to have his protegee go off, or somebody that he
had nurtured anyway, go off and have their own show.
And as a woman on late night TV, this was groundbreaking,
and he had been a big part of really developing
her and exposing her to the networks. Or you could

(10:24):
say Johnny Carson behind the smile was intensely competitive, and
he was, and I think that's one of many examples
of that. The first show to be broadcast on that
new network was The Late Show with Joan Rivers. The
first prime time show for the network was Married with Children.

(10:51):
A scene this is a scene where I'll find something
of his dad's in the attic, and the whole family
tries to guess what he found. Oh, I guess that
that audio wasn't loaded. That's all right, Well it's okay, yeah,
you got it.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Okay, guess what I found in the attic.

Speaker 8 (11:13):
It's something of my father's that served him well for
twenty years and now will serve me for the rest
of my life.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
A pair of socks.

Speaker 8 (11:23):
But what do you think I found? If it's a
rubber woman, Dad, I can explain. You send away for
one archie comic and the next thing you know, they
put you on a list in.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Pumpkin, you found a pumpkin, Daddy.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Did you ever watch that show regularly or you just
watch it some? I never watched that show. I never
watched the Tim Allen show. I never watched the Ray
Romano show. That was That's not an indictment one of
the shows or an insult of the shows or bragging.
That's just a statement that I realize that I am

(12:09):
in the minority in so what well Yet, No, I
didn't say I got lawyer degrees. I'm not watching. I'm
just saying I didn't. There's a lot of the American
cultural iconography that at least yearbook that I did not watch.
A fifty seven inch pothole, which means almost six feet

(12:31):
sorry nearly five feet long in southwest Houston cost more
than one thousand dollars in damages to a family's car.
The city says they are not liable for property damage
resulting from the use, operation, or maintenance of its streets.
Peggy Stewart and her family paid fourteen hundred dollars in
car repairs after slamming into the pothole on Meadow Glen Lane.

(12:56):
She says, I don't think it was a pothole. It
was more like a crater. The city says they are
not liable. Stewart says, I felt that I made a
strong argument about the damage and neglect that I thought
the City of Houston made in repairing the street. In fact,
they haven't repaired the cavity. There is no curb, and
the curb is the only way to sustain the repair
to the street. According to state law, the city is

(13:17):
only liable when property damage is caused by city employees
negligent operation of a motor driven vehicle or equipment, and
that employee would be personally liable.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
That's uh uh, that's comforting, isn't it so. At the
very time that we had a five foot long pothole,
we had a rainbow intersection in Montrose that, due to
some construction, had been torn up. But it's been replaced.
The road has been replaced and yes, all the payments

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have been made to put the Rainbow crosswalk back, because
I suppose that's more important than anything else. Apparently, Governor
Abbot has asked tex dot to enforce strict roadway guidelines,

(14:16):
threatening to withhold state and federal funding from cities that
failed to comply with the order to remove what he
calls any and all political ideologies from streets. The governor
said in a statement, Texans expect their taxpayer dollars to
be used wisely, not advanced advanced political agendas on Texas roadways. Today,

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I directed the Texas Department of Transportation to ensure Texas
counties and cities remove any and all political ideologies from
our streets. Abbot's order states that taxpayer dollars are not
meant to advance political agendas and that non standard surface
marketings that do not promote traffic control are prohibited. He
added that maintaining roadway safety should be a primary concern.

(14:59):
Any that refuses to comply with the federal and federal
road standards will face consequences, including the withholding or denial
of state and federal road funding and suspension of agreements
with tech dot. Well, he'll never actually follow through with that,
but I guess he got a press release out of it.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
So here we are.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Weeks ago, Mayor John Whitmyer said the City of Houston
was broke, and it is now it is spending sixteen
million dollars on a super hub for the homeless. City
officials announcing plans this week to purchase a property on
Emancipation Avenue to serve as a new super hub for
the city's homeless population. I don't think that's necessarily a
terrible idea. I mean, nobody wants to say it this way,

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and so it will never be said this way. But
I think it's good to be honest and to have
honest conversations, even though they offend people. What you're really
trying to do is find someplace to round all the
homeless up and dump them. And you can say, oh,
that's not not you don't live next to them. Okay,
you don't live next to them, so spare me the bs.

(16:05):
What you're trying to do is round these people and
all of their trash, heap, dubsters and salvage yards that
they create and dump them in one place. And if
you're actually going to keep rounding them up and dumping
them in that place. Okay, yeah, hope for that, I
told them man on a jagged tent.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Inmates escaped from New Orleans and the Orleans Parish Justice
Center in May.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
The tenth of those has been captured in Atlanta. Derek
Groves was serving a life sentence for second degree murder,
convicted last year for opening fire during a Marty Grass
block party that killed two people and wounded several others.
It was also convicted of two counts of manslaughter in
a separate case. Wus Marshall. Brian Fair said Groves was

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located after a search that lasted several hours at an
Atlanta home. The story from Fox eight in Our Beloved.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
This was the scene on Honeysuckle Streets.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
It wasn't there yet. I was gonna say some nice
things about New Orleans Fox eight in Our Beloved.

Speaker 9 (17:18):
This was the scene on Honeysuckles.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
We're not there yet. We're not there yet.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I had a couple more, a couple more things to
say about about that. Okay, Fox eight and Our Beloved,
this was the.

Speaker 9 (17:28):
Scene on Honeysuckle Street in.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Our Take five. We'll do it live, We'll do it live.
If you know, you know Fox eight, New Orleans with
our in our beloved if in slight Decline. New Orleans

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has the story this.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
Was the scene on Honeysuckle Street in Southwest Atlanta. New Orleans.
US Marshall's contacted Atlanta authorities over the summer with a
tip from crime stoppers of Greater New Orleans. We're told
law enforcement spent the next months narrowing down Groves location.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
Ever since the escape, which was in May, the US
Marshals in New Orleans, along with several other departments, started
basically a task force just for this case and have
spent thousands of hours working tons of leads. We can't
say exactly what brought us here, but it was a
very thorough investigation, mainly by our New Orleans Marshals, and

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then they sent us information which we corroborated and was
able to locate him at this location.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
We are so thankful for the bravery encourage all the
officers involved in this operation.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
He is the tenth of ten individuals to be taken
into custody from the Orleans Parish incident.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
New Orleans Deputy US Marshal Brian Fair emphasized bringing Grows
back into custody was a collaborative.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Effort, the law enforcement effort between the Les Sheriff's office,
the New Orleans Police Department, Louiana State Police, h I, FBI.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
And the US Marshalls.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
So all these agencies contributed to what happened today.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
And Fair says it's not clear whether Groves had been
working or had otherwise changed his appearance while on the
run for nearly five months. Fair says the investigation into
grooves escape and subsequent disappearance is ongoing.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
That's pretty impressive five months. They don't usually make it
that way either, they make it forever, like, uh, what's
the what is the woman? It was a godmother to Tupac,
the woman that killed the cop in New Jersey. She
ended up in Cuba. She made it a lot. I mean,

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she made it until she died and then the left
all celebrated how great she was now that she had died.
But usually what happens is they get out, either they're
captured as part of the exit, you know, before they
can kind of get themselves established, or once they get
themselves even slightly established, you know, they need money quickly

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and they're not real sharp, so they have to commit
petty crimes and get caught doing that, or most common
they go see mama. There's two things that every thug
when he breaks out of prison needs to do. One
is go see mama. Number two is go lay up
with this baby mamas and maybe make another baby real
quick while he's in prison. And you have to wonder

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about it. I mean, honestly, you have to wonder what
kind of woman makes a baby with the kind of
person who ends up in a career. I understand there
are gonna be some guys who turn bad. There are
gonna be some guys who surprise you that they, you know,
were harboring a secret. But by and large, these guys

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are completing utter thugs in some of these women themselves
work and it's it's there's a total there's a total
change of direction in it's a flip of the whole
role system where women chase the men in inner city
thug life, and the man is, you know, the preening princess,

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and you know he's got what she wants. It's the
craziest thing. It is the craziest thing. He doesn't have
to work. He's like you know, in the old days,
a beautiful woman you should get married and her husband
take care of her, and she'd take care of the
house and raise the kids. But she was the you know,
she was the prize boy with this group. My goodness Alive.

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I saw the headlines, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
I didn't get a chance to go back and check
it out. It was while we were recording. I was
in the middle of doing spots and I said, well,
finish this next spot, and then I'll go back and well,
let me do this so I don't forget it, and
I'll go back, and I forgot to ever go back.
It was Dolly Parton. And so the story this week

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has been that Dolly Parton's sister asked for prayers for
her sister's health. I could be wrong. I'm not, certainly
not a Nashville insider in that sense, but has her
sister been her spokesman in the past. That felt a

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little awkward. You know, who is where's her sister been?
Did we know about her before? But you know whatever. However,
then I see a video yesterday and I don't know
who was who was it? But I see a video
yesterday that that was Dolly and she looked good. I

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don't know what the condition is, if it's the kind
of thing that would hospitalize her, cause her to look frail,
or whatever else. If somebody can give me a one
minute synopsis on the situation and get right to it
with good facts, what you believe to be correct, I
will put you on the air seven one three nine
nine nine one thousand, seven one three nine nine nine

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one thousand. But anyway, I hope she is doing well.
Her politics are absolutely whack, but there is no doubt
that we love these stories of people who seem to
defy gravity and time by by performing well late into

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their lives and kind of embracing the old in a way.
Hers is a little different than say Betty White or
George Burns, but I can think of so so many
of these folks that became just national treasures that we
want to keep alive. I don't know what kind of
shape Thomas Soul is in mentally or physically, but I

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would love for the President to do something for him
while he is still alive. My understanding is he won't.
He doesn't do public appearances any longer. But for my money,
he's the greatest living thinker, the greatest thinker alive today,
and he should be honored as such, and I would
love to see President Trump do so. I don't know

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how many people in Trump's orbit have that level of
awareness of Thomas Soul to be willing and able to
do that, but in any case. A new poll is
out from the Hobby School at the University of Houston
as well as Texas Southern. I guess they've worked together
on this all polls are specious. All polls are suspect.

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So I've never been one to push polls before, and
I'm not one now. But here is what the poll
they claim reveals, and that is in the Democrat primary,
forty six percent for Colin alredy forty two percent for
James Talerico. In the Republican primary for US Senate Ken
Paxton leading the field at thirty four, John Cornyn leading

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the field at thirty three, Wesley Hunt leading the field
at twenty two. Now, I would like to see how
that poll was conducted, because there's always biases added in,
sometimes by design, sometimes inadvertent. It's not possible to take
a perfect poll, but there are things you can do

(28:42):
to make them more accurate, and by accurate, that is
more reflective of what the vote would be if the
vote were held today. And one of the ways that
you see that polls are inaccurate, for instance, is polling
all Texans, not reducing it to registered voters. Remember, in

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the state of Texas, we don't register by party. We
register as a voter. That means we have passed the
test that we are eligible to vote, so that on
election day, whether that be a primary or the general election,
the primary is to depict the party's nominees. That general
is for November. That just means that we're eligible to vote,

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so that when we show up, we're not in the
country illegally or a resident of another state or country.
If you only if you only poll Texans, then you're
going to get a skewed number because those aren't Most
of those people won't even be able to vote, they're
not eligible to vote. Number two, if you only poll

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registered voters, now you're polling voters who are registered but
may not vote. So you can be a registered voter,
but you haven't voted in twelve years, you're not votvoting
this time.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Either.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
You're much more likely to get a predictive or accurately
reflective poll if you are polling people most likely to vote,
and the better poll is a subpole of that, which
is a three R poll, and that is somebody who
voted in the last three Republican primaries, and in this case,

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since this will be twenty six, that would be twenty four,
twenty two, and twenty The most predictive of those three
primaries is going to be twenty twenty two. If you
are a Republican primary voter in twenty twenty two. That
means you voted when Trump was not on the ballot,
in a Republican primary, when there weren't any really sexy

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races to pay attention to. If you are a Republican
primary voter and Trump is on the ballot, you are
not necessarily a consistent primary voter. That's the power of Trump.
And by the way, we saw the same thing with
Democrats with Barack Obama in his first in his first campaign.

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So I don't know how accurate these polls will be
based on what they've done, but that's what it reveals.
Paxton at thirty four, Cornin at thirty three, Wesley Hunt
at twenty two, which of course adds up if you
did the quick math, to be eighty nine percent leaving
eleven percent undecided. That's about where I would have expected it.

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In fact, I probably would have expected twenty five percent undecided,
but somewhere between twenty five and ten percent undecided. At
this point, A lot of undecided voters will end up
never voting if they never gravitate toward another one of
the candidates. We now begin the actual campaign with Wesley

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Hunt in the race we begin the campaign, and one
of the things we're noticing for those of you who
are Paxton supporters who feared Wesley Hunt's entrance into the campaign.
In a Texas Monthly interview, Wesley Hunt said Ken Paxton
is the best attorney general in the entire country. If

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I don't win, I would want him to win, and
if it's me and him in a runoff, I consider
that a win for the state. So I understand the
theory is that Wesley Hunt is a plant from the
Feds and that that's from Corny's people. But boy, they
sure are playing these things that they deserve an award
for the acting if that's the case, because Wesley Hunt

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has only attacked John Cornyn, and John Cornyn since Wesley
Hunt has been in has only attacked Wesley Hunt, and
Wesley Hunt is saying very nice things about Ken Paxton.
Those two like each other. I know that to be
the case. Wesley and Ken Paxton. They've gotten along in
the in the past few years very very well, and

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they would be wise to not fire at each other
and continue to both attack from different angles. Like a
great Roberty Lee advance on John Cornyn because he can't
fend them both off at the same time, and that
would weaken him and put them in a primary and
then go at it, tear each other up, you know how,

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Like when they'll have like a Chad Knows on Tomo.
They'll have like a regular MMA guy and then two
midgets and they're coming at it from different angles.