AM Show Hr 2 | Harris Co Officials Still In Trouble, Plus Remembering Game 5 Of The W.S. From '17

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Arry Show is on the air. Harriscotti different Attorney.
Kim Ogg is our guest. She was defeated in this
year's Democrat primary by a Sorrows backed and probably more importantly,

(00:36):
Rodney Ellis backed candidate. Most insiders believe that Kim Ogg
was defeated or even challenged in the Democrat primary because
she dared to question the Democrat machine that Rodney Ellis
runs for which Lena Hidalgo is but a puppet. The
charges she brought against Hidalgo's top three people or a

(00:59):
fraudule bid a bid rigging were the last straw for
that crowd. But there are several other issues that have
swirled out there and making the news today. KPRCTV last night,
the supposed owner of the African art that Rodney Ellis
secretly housed on Harris County grounds, costing taxpayers more than

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three hundred thousand dollars, now admits under oath that some
of the pieces in the collection could be stolen. Kim,
I don't know if your office has investigated. I heard
from Fed's years ago that Rodney Ellis's involvement in the
county housing of this African art was criminal and would

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be prosecuted, and somehow it just sort of went away,
which makes me wonder your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It didn't just go away. The office investigated it through
the grand jury process, but we found that to be
very difficult without an investigating agency. We did not have
the rangers, we did not have HPD or the SOO
as I recall, and so several grand juries heard from

(02:15):
people about the art collection. But the statutes relating to
how people benefit, etc. When they're in public office from
things like free art or free storage did not work
very well in the legal context. So what I'm saying is,
while the Feds have really strong laws that can prevent

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and prosecute I think, not prevent corruption, but can be
used to prosecute corruption, the state laws are really weak
and they're narrow, and I think without saying who went
to grand jury and what the grand juror said, I
wasn't there, I can tell you that there was no
true bill produced, meaning they didn't feel the evidence met

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the probable cause standard that a crime had been committed.
This drives a lot of people crazy because we know
it's wrong to use county resources or any government resources
for a private purpose. I think that this art department
that Commissioner Ellis has commissioned and spent millions putting up

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murals around the city. This was thought to be part
of that. And what the origins of art actually are
the providence of the art, we don't know. I'm not
surprised that sam n Jari doesn't know. However, if it
had actually been put into a museum setting without that

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prominence or that authentication process, might have gained in value.
So maybe this was an art scam that was stopped.
It's hard to know. But he should he meaning Commissioner Ellis.
We wrote in a letter to the County Attorney three
years ago saying he should pay this money back. He
spent three hundred thousand plus of county General Fund money

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to refurbish a warehouse, to move the art, to exterminate, etc.
And the Commissioner should pay the general Fund back at
least out of the money that they give themselves in budget.
And to the best of my knowledge, that's never happened.
We've recommended that several times. I don't think County Attorney

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has pursued reclaiming that money, and I think that's a
question for the county attorney. We all have really specific duties,
and the problem is when there's no scrutiny of how
we do those duties. I get scrutiny all day every day.
The haters at the courthouse will feed the media almost
anything to try and make our office answer questions. And

(04:58):
I don't have a problem with that because they do
a good job buying large and if we screw up,
then we should admit it. But I think it would
be important to ask the county attorney, why don't you
pursue you reclaiming this money for taxpayers out of the
commissioner's funds, personal or county should be done.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
It should, and it disturbs me. I've got about two
and a half minutes left. I wanted to save time
for this. Harris County District Attorney Kim august Our guests,
when you look at what your office is handed every day,
cases violence, rapes, sex trafficking, which I think is far
worse than anyone realizes how big of an impact is

(05:37):
illegal immigration on the overall state of security in our community.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Because the numbers we have are so subjective, we know
that there's approximately sixty thousand people who came across the
border just in August of twenty twenty four. If a
fraction of them come through Houston, and a fraction of
those are predatory, like Joscelyn nunger a'sed murderers were, then

(06:11):
the impact of even a tiny percentage of folks committing
crimes does a great deal of damage, a disproportionate amount
of damage. So we don't have a good bead on
how percentage wise it's affecting crime. But I've got a
very good understanding from talking to parents of individuals murdered

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by illegal aliens that one is too many. So, you know,
until we get enforcement of immigration laws on a major level,
I don't think we're going to have a handle on
just how much it's impacted, how much it's cost us, etc.
I would say the cost of a kid's life, you know,

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is should be enough. Texans have sacrificed enough, and it's
time that we enforce the law.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
We've got about a minute left, and the question that's
coming across is what happens when you're gone. Obviously you
can't know who your replacement is, but how concerned are
you the cases that you worked up particularly if the
Democrat who defeated you, apparently with pledges of a lot
less serious prosecution, wins.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know, I think that it's a question that I
want to ask Houstonians, how concerned are you about who
will be the top law enforcement official and who will
they report to? With four million dollars of source money
and the backing of Commissioner Ellis investigated over Afghan art

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and clearly ticked about it with the support of Judge
Lina Hidalgo, whose staffers have been indicted and currently awake trial,
with her endorsement of the Democratic candidate, I worry that
these political supporters who were also criminal targets, or at
least their staffers were. I think it looks conflicted, it

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looks bad, and that we should watch the action of
the new district attorney on the cases that are pending.
You know, we've done some great public corruption work. As
soon as we met fewer roadblocks and got more assistants
from the rangers, who I'm just really grateful to, we've

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been able to really bring some good public corruption cases.
I want our public to know every one of those.
I'm going to provide you around us and we'll see
what the next DA does with those cases.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Harris County District Journey kim O, thank.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
You my pleasure. Michael Barry, you're giving them the inso,
Michael Berry, because you're a public Paul Revere kind of
ring in the warnings.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
The story of the African art and Rodney Ellis's involvement,
whether charges are ever brought, is quite the scuttle butt
at Harris County Commissioner's Court and has been for years.
There are millions of dollars flying around. There are supposed

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African art exhibits. Back in twenty twenty there was a
county shed warehouse that was converted to store. We don't
know how valuable the art is because one allegation is

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that it's all fraudulent. It's all fake. It's African art,
so not your average person can tell the difference. How
was it acquired with? Whose funds? Now the county, seemingly
as a stopgap or cover up, is putting the art
all over public buildings. Who paid for this art? What

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we do know is that back in twenty twenty, Ridneyella
spent three hundred and twenty six thousand dollars in county
funds to transform a warehouse into a storage facility for
over one thousand pieces of the art at no cost
to whoever owns it. And that's where it gets interesting.

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He got no approval from the county to do so.
Surveillance videos showed him showing off the private collection to
family friends others. You heard the name Sam Nunjari, who's
said to be a close friend of Rodney Ellis. He
claimed to be the owner. He was in business with

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Rodney Ellis's sister in law at the time. Because we
all keep this very close, he was taken to court.
This is where it happens. This is the same thing
as Fat Fanny Willis in Atlanta. Remember, we wouldn't have
known what she was up to except for the fact
that she was having an affair with Nathan Wade, who
was a married man, and Nathan's Wade. Nathan Wade's wife said,

(11:39):
uh huh. She takes him to court and says he's
banging the district attorney and she's paying him for it.
So Nunjari, the guy that's in on this whole thing,
He gets taken to court by a woman named Darlene Jarrett,
who says he owes her over a million dollars in
a civil order and then Nanjari files for bankruptcy so

(12:05):
he doesn't have to auction off the art. Well, now
under oath, Nanjari says, well, they said, well you own
this art, and he says it might be stolen. So
now his answer in the civil suit to this woman

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is causing real problems for Rodney Ellis, because why is
Rodney Ellis spending three hundred and twenty six thousand dollars
in county funds to store art for his friend that
his friend now says is stolen. KPRC TV.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
The whole thing with this art is stretch.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's been that way since we first reported the costly
three hundred and twenty six thousand dollars transformation of a
Harris County maintenance shed to store over one thousand pieces
of private African art for free, even though there was
no approval by the county to do so. There's lots
right here.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Who has the keys to all of this?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
It was all under the control of Commissioner Rodney Ellis,
who showed off the private collection to family and others,
giving them private tours. And when we showed up asking questions,
Commissioner Alice had no answers. So if you want to
ask them what I'm asking a tough question and we'll
respond sir, I'm asking you.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
I'm asking you a symphony question.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
We need to get answers, sir about what's inside that
maintenance shed.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Sir.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
We were told by the county the private collection had
only one owner, sam and Janieri, who was in business
with the commissioner, Ellis's sister in law. And after KPRC
two investigates exposed all of it, a criminal investigation was launched,
with a grand jury declining to indict Ellis for the
hundreds of thousands of dollars spent in connection to the art.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Remember these are taxpayers dollars.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
It tells me that there's a lot of effort to
keep this stuff from big soul.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Attorney Walker wants it sold on behalf of his client,
Darlene Jarrett, because the engineery owes her over one million
dollars and the sale of the African art can cover it.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Only.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Walker had to go back to court on Tuesday because
Neugeniery has filed restraining orders and even bankruptcy to avoid
having the art sold off.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
I mean, I'm just trying to get this stuff sold
so I could satisfy my client's judgment.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Newgenery does not have ownership papers for all the art
and admitted that not only is there another owner of
the art, but some of it may have been stolen.
The significant development has gone ignored by law enforcement for
nearly a year. According to Walker, has anybody from Harris
County District Attorney's Office investigated.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
That new development?

Speaker 6 (14:47):
No, not that I know.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Former Prosecutor Angela Welton has a four second opinion to
all of this.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Well, I think that it is ripe for an investigation.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Welton tried public corruption cases when she worked at the DA.
Welton believes the fact that the engineering testified to additional
ownership and that some of the art might be stolen
is significant enough to give the original criminal investigation a
whole new look and potentially take it before a new
grand jury.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It all stinks, and everybody down there knows it stinks.
Lena hid Allgo's entire leadership is that the direction of
Rodney ellis the bid rigging scandal that's in ken paxt
at the Attorney General's Office right now, All of it.
The twenty twenty two election, when the ballots didn't show up.

(15:41):
Clifford Tatum, who was brought in from Washington, d C.
To rig that election that Alex Meeler rightfully won.

Speaker 8 (15:47):
All of it, all of it.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
A woman has been found guilty in the twenty twenty
two drunk driving hit and run killing of Harris County
Sergeant Ramon Gutierrez.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
You remember this, Convicted of intoxication manslaughter. This is nearly
forty three year old Lavilia Spry, reacting yesterday to a
forty three year sentence. Today, she returned to court in
a jail jumpsuit, apologizing to the family of Deputy Sergeant
Ramon Gutierrez and describing the hit and run crash that
killed him as an accident.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Driving drunk is not an accident, and killing somebody when
you're driving drunk is a predictable consequence. Therefore, it could
have been prevented.

Speaker 8 (16:29):
Gutierrez died in January of twenty twenty two while working
an off duty job along the Beltway. He was directing
traffic for an oversized load when investigators say a highly
intoxicated Spry drove around emergency vehicles and struck Gutierrez before
leaving the scene. The forty five year old husband and
father of three, was a twenty year law enforcement veteran

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who ironically worked vehicular crimes involving d wi's.

Speaker 9 (16:54):
My dad spent his entire life dedicated to keeping trunk
drivers off the street, to keeping families safe.

Speaker 8 (17:01):
His son, Alfredo, was among three family members who read
impact statements in court. We were not allowed to record audio,
but they were clearly emotional, as were the family's embraces
later in the hallway.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
My dad was an amazing man. He was everything that
we asked police officers to be. He was everything that
we asked a father to be.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
Spry said she sees Sergeant gutierres in her dreams and
believes he would forgive her. Her attorneys telling us she
expressly wanted to speak to his family. I felt that
her responding and making sure that the family knew that
she truly, truly was sorry, was the appropriate thing for
her to do. At the time of his death, Gutierrez
was picking up extra jobs to help pay for his

(17:45):
daughter's upcoming wedding.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Could happen to anybody, what happens, It's what happens. Illegal
immigrants is devastating this country. A Jewish man in Chicago
on his way to temple shot and killed by an
illegal alien who's now been determined to be from North Africa.

(18:14):
I believe it's Morocco, but it might be Algeria, who
screamed out alu Akbar Alabar before unloading his gun into him.
As police responded, he got in a shootout police. I
hope they killed him. I'm not sure yet. The cost
of illegal immigration.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
The Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 10 (18:49):
Little boy in a baseball hat stands in the field
with his ball and bat, says.

Speaker 11 (19:01):
I am the greatest player of them all. Puts his
bad on his shoulder, and he tosses up his ball,
and the ball goes up and the ball comes down,
swings as bad all.

Speaker 10 (19:16):
The way around the world. So still you can hear
the sound of the baseball falls to the ground.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Ramon Roblez celebrating his fifteenth wedding anniversary with Amy today,
which means that seven years ago today, twenty seventeenth, was
their eighth wedding anniversary, and on that day Houston had
never won a World Series. It was to be Game
five of the twenty seventeen World Series, the first game

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of that series. The Dodgers went up three to one.
It didn't look good. The Astros rallied back seven to six.
In Game two three, the Astros would take it five
to three. Game four of the Dodgers at six to two,
pivotal Game five in a series that the Dodgers would

(20:14):
come back and win Game six three to one, taking
it to a Game seven, which the Astros would manage
to win five to one. And Cashman is still bitching
about it to this day. There was a beautiful, beautiful occasion.
But that Game five, the pivotal Game five. If the
Astros had lost and then lose as they did the

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next day to the two days later to the Dodgers
series would over, would be over. There would be no championship.
The Sports Illustrated cover would not have come true. But
as you recall, in a thirteen to twelve win, the
Astros in ten innings, fourteen hits a piece one era

(20:55):
apiece did win that game. The next day are very on.
Ramona Roubles made a little montage, little story about what
had happened last night, and since that was seven years
ago today a skimmitt.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
Listen, there was an old one and that's line past
Iran in a left field front base and Taylor's scores
falls kicked by Marlin and left turner's scores. Hernandez goes
to third. Two runs come home on the single by
Foresight and it's a two to nothing Dodgers league.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's lifted in the left field.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
That's trouble.

Speaker 11 (21:32):
Marvint gets Alz with the chase and he'll had to
play it on a bounce scoring.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Its foresythe puts the Dodgers up forward to nothing on
an RBI single by Barnes.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Two runners at scoring position.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
First piss from Kershaw and.

Speaker 12 (21:50):
He lifts this one left field.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Horiba work.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I love Sparky.

Speaker 7 (21:59):
Three two again and l two by.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
He's just high in the air.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
It's pretty deep the center. Taylor is going back at
the wall looking up.

Speaker 12 (22:08):
Say you later on game time.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Pray run hold up, we're holding.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Out too by. It's seven to seven.

Speaker 13 (22:18):
Here's the first pitch for Borrow and it's Bringer a.

Speaker 12 (22:22):
Toad for the ball and center and crossing it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
The left field.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
We're tight again.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I don't got her over the train track. It's eight today.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Hit hard to left field, sitting the left fielder back
and it's over his head.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Fragman's got a chance to score.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
He's racing here cuts.

Speaker 12 (22:43):
The throat of the plate. Not this time, that's rock leave.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
Correa popped the left.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
It's pretty deep racing across Peter said one of the
warning shirt.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
It's gone.

Speaker 13 (22:57):
It's gone, Ron Homer by Carlos Correa's love a day, Astro.

Speaker 12 (23:08):
And Alex lenses in a last under build. That's a bay,
said Fisher. Raup started coming home. Keep your up with
the baseball that thought it up like thot an time
Ascros with Astros wet Alice Drakeman comes through for the
walk off Army Ice single and the Astros win thurta day.
That's called it ten days leave the World Series streak
games to two.

Speaker 10 (23:37):
Here come to Astros burning with desire.

Speaker 11 (23:41):
Here come to Astros U and.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Ord jd Vance set to travel to Austin tomorrow and
sit down for three hours with Joe Rogan for his podcast.
Rogan announcing this morning that Kamala Harris has not refused
the podcast after all that was reported because a staffer

(24:06):
of hers said that, but instead she has laid down
her demands. He will do the podcast, but not for
three hours as Trump did, as all the guests do
but for one hour and he has to fly to her.
I think Rogan understands writings on the wall at this
point that would be a terrible, terrible capitulation.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
For him to do that.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
He doesn't need to do it. So jd Vance will
do the podcast tomorrow. Big news the Kamala Harris campaign
is shifting resources because they have It's like at the Alamo,
you know, they have different gaps beginning to open up.
They're pulling money out of North Carolina, which was a

(24:52):
battleground state, seemingly having given up on North Carolina where
they're losing ground. Remember that was the big storm and
she's sitting for the Call Her Daddy podcast while people
were dying. Body bags hadn't even arrived yet, remember that. Well,
the people of North Carolina do The concern was would

(25:14):
they show up and vote? Oh, they're showing up and voting.
For sure. They would crawl across glass to vote against
Coamala Harrison vote for Donald Trump. At this point, so
the Harris campaign is pulling their money, some reports as
much as two million dollars out of North Carolina and
putting it into Virginia, which was not supposed to be

(25:35):
in play.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
But now is.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
And I'll remind you the Democrats say non citizens are
not voting in America. They can't register to vote, they're
not voting. So Glenn Youngkin, the Republican governor of Virginia,
had the roles scrubbed and they had a number of
non citizens who were registered vote.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
So they checked the.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Lists and they said, you're a non citizen and you're
registered to vote. You're no longer registered to vote. You
cannot vote, much less be registered to vote in the
state of Virginia if you're not a citizen. The Biden
administration has sued them, so we have gone from that's
a lie, you conspiracy theorist, Nazi maga people, that's a

(26:26):
lie that non citizens are registered to vote, much less voting.
Now they're suing the state of Virginia to let the
non citizens vote. Pay attention.

Speaker 12 (26:39):
They think that Tom.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Country with them.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
Michael Berry, we think sweet tea.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
We don't think socialist. In the group calltes white dudes

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for Harris?

Speaker 7 (27:22):
Have you seen this?

Speaker 4 (27:23):
White dudes for Harris? Anybody know? Are some of you here?

Speaker 13 (27:27):
White dudes fan?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Doesn't sound like it. But I'm not worried about them
at all because their wives and their wives lovers.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Are all voting for me.

Speaker 13 (27:37):
This is Casey casem on American Top forty in Hollywood.
We're up to our long distance request and dedication and
it's from a hard working white dude for Harris in
Pennsylvania who has found himself all alone on his anniversary
and he writes, Dear Casey, today is my seventh anniversary.

(27:58):
My wife Jenna and I met our sophomore year at Brown.
She was an education major and I was in Women's studies.
We had a History of Queer literature class together and
joined a study group, and well sparks began to fly,
and the rest is history. It was like everything in

(28:18):
her life was exactly what I needed in my life.
I didn't have many friends, so I made my way
into her peer group. In fact, her best friend, Jake,
was my best man at our wedding. Jake is such
a great guy and he's always there for her. He
even went to her bachelorette party just the two of them. Well,

(28:40):
over the years, Jake has struggled finding work as a
personal trainer, so we opened up our doors and now
he lives with us in our home. I can't tell
you what a blessing it is to know that while
I'm off on business travel, Jenna has such a dear
and close friend to keep her company. Well, Casey, I'm
not away at work right now. I'm home alone, and

(29:03):
Jake and Jenna are on a much needed vacation at
a Sandals resort in Jamaica. I want you to tell
Jenna how much she means to me. Tell her how
grateful I am that she has six foot two inch
one hundred and eighty five pounds of chiseled granite fitness
guru Jake as a best friend. Tell her to bring
me home some seashells from Jamaica. Tell her that the

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whole house will be sparkly clean when she and Jake
come home, And tell her that her special relationship with
Jake is an inspiration to what friendship can mean. Casey,
could you please play Careless Whisper by George Michael for
my wife and her best friend. Jake signed Bryce into

(29:47):
Boys Pennsylvania. Well, Bryce, it sounds like Jenna has it
all figured out here. It is your long distance request
and dedication.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Why dude, star Harris? Why dudes wore Harris?

Speaker 5 (30:12):
There?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Dudes, they're white and them for Harris.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
New ad from the Trump campaign features Joscelyn nunger A,
mother of twelve year old Joscelyn Mother. Sorry, features Joscelyn
uh Nungerray's mother, the twelve year old little girl, Alexis
Nungeray is her mother. I'm sorry I got the name, sir.

(30:41):
Alexis mother. Alexis Nungery is the mother of twelve year
old Joscelyn nunger A, who was murdered by two illegals
who had been freed by the Biden Harris administration. Here
is that Trump ad.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Sunday night, I asked her to not stay up super
late because of her coming to work with me in
the morning first to do her summer school. She said, okay.
I told her good night and I love you. I
went to bed, not realizing that that was going to
be the last time I saw her.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
We're best friend.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
God think it again.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
I woke up to notice she wasn't in your bed.
I'm in my heart trying not to lose my mind
because I don't know where she is. I finally remembered
her phone had a location on and her phone was
pinging just two minutes down the road right behind the skatepark.

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I start driving to the direction of the phone was
being pinged at, and I see a couple of cop
cars with lights on. I see yellow tape and meet.
My heart drops and sinks to the bottom of my stomach.
My daughter's hands and ankles were both bound. She was

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strangled to death with left with no pants, and I
know in my heart she fought incredibly hard. She was
not going down without a fight.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
We begin with two men we're learning our charge with
capital murder tonight, accused of killing a twelve.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Year old girl police.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
These men strangled her before dumping her into that creek.
Both men were in the country illegally.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
Apprehended than released by border patrol less than three weeks
before Jocelyn's death. Man accused of killing Joscelyn Noungray are
affiliated with the gang known for brutal violence.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Kamala Harris was in charge of immigration in our borders.
If we had better border policies and not open borders
and not these catcher release policies, I truly believe this
all could have been prevented under her being vice president
of this country. My daughter's life was ripped away from her.

(33:17):
She had her entire life ahead of her. My daughter
is six feet in the ground based off of policies
that she allowed to keep. Kamala Harris did have one job,
and she not only failed, not me, she failed my daughter.

(33:41):
She failed Joscelyn. You know she was only twelve. President
Trump reached out gave me his sincereous condolences as not
a former president, but just as a father, someone who cares.
I believe Donald Trump needs to be back in office.
I can at least know that my next child will

(34:05):
be safe in this country.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Former acting Ice Director under Donald Trump, Tom Holman on
sixty Minutes, This is why you have to deport.

Speaker 14 (34:24):
Hear a lot of people say, you know, the talk
of a mass deportation is racist, it's threatening to immigrant community.
It's not threatened to the immigrant community. It should be
threatening to the illegal immigrant community. But on the heels
of his historic illegal immigration crisis, that has to be done.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
What would the largest deportation in American history.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Look like to you?

Speaker 14 (34:51):
Well, let me tell you what's not going to be. First,
it's not going to be a mass sweep of neighborhoods.
It's not going to be building concentration camps. Read at all.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
But if mass deportation is not going to be as
you said, massive sweeps and concentration.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
Can be, what is it.

Speaker 14 (35:08):
They'll be targeted arrest, We'll know who we're going to rest,
where we're most likely to find them based on numerous
investigative processes.

Speaker 8 (35:16):
How many people would be deported.

Speaker 14 (35:20):
That's that's a You can't answer that question.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Why not?

Speaker 14 (35:23):
How many officers do have?

Speaker 7 (35:25):
Is there a written plan on this that I know