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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time lucking load. So Michael
Very Show is on the air. Here's Johnny. I am
the danger. I am the one who knocks. We'll do
it a lot, and we'll do it live.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Last year I spent more money on spill liquor. There's
fires from one side of this world to the other
than you may. You're talking to the rolics wearing diamond
ring wearing Je's stealing, who wheeling, dealing livings in right,
Jack flying set off a gun, and I'm having a
hard time holding his allegators.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
John in the spoke up Salid, this one alwful. She
can tell that a way here.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
That I was bad to the bowl, head of the bowl,
bad of the bowl, bad of the bowl.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Let my dog. So now that'll be the end of it.
I will not look for you. I will not pursue you.
But if you don't I will look for you. I
will find you, and I will kill you.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
A minute the half that I'm bad of the bowl,
bad of the bowl, bad of the ball.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I want to pray, what again, I tell you I
double day.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Our friends at the Public Mood Company in the Heights,
we'll be having a shin dig Today open to the
public from two to seven, sort of an open house
come party.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's a celebration of the one hundredth anniversary of the building.
Chris Conrad owns there that is Republic Boot Company, and
there'll be live music, they'll be drinks, they'll be pop ups,
it'll be it'll be a good time. You know, people
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who are good at what they do understand that what
you think you're doing is not usually what you're actually doing.
You're in you know, cal McNair understands that they're in
the entertainment business. Now Texans fans don't hear that entertain football.
It's entertainment. It's entertainment. The problem is our house of
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representatives are in Texas has gotten into the entertainment business
rather than the problem solving business. But Chris Conrad at
Republic Boot Company understands that not only do you have
to make a quality custom boot, but you got to
create an experience. And I don't think anybody does that
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the way they do. Nobody does that in town the
way they do. He gets it. There's always live music.
You go in and have a whiskey, and it matters
because it's more than just a pair of boots. It
is a whole experience around it. But anyway, I was thinking,
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you know, it's a it's a shindig. I said the
word shindig, and I looked up the word shindig tonight today.
This earlier. The word first was first recorded in eighteen
fifty nine as a southernism for a kick in the show.
(04:01):
That's what it originally meant. Of course, as they say,
within the next decade, it came to mean a loud
and lively party. Also, the little left handed lesbian Affirmative
Action press secretary Carinne Jean Pierre just wants you to
know she's she's got a book out and she has
(04:22):
left the Democrat Party. Just so you know, breaking news.
She has announced she has left the Democrat Party. She
is now independent. Well, what are the ramifications that she's
left it? It's different now she woke up and she's
no longer the Democrat Party. What does that mean? Juj
(04:43):
just wanted you to know that, just wants you to
know what what what she was? Yeah, and she also
fed her cats yesterday and both of those are about
as relevant to your life. Let's go to Randy Rendi.
You're up.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Michael.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
My little analogy is, you know, like my wife calls
me and said, hey, honey, I forgot to lay something
out of the freezer. Stop by Hib and get something
to cook for dinner tonight. So I go to Hib
get something cooked for dinner, and I tell you, hey, wife,
come help me unload all my groceries. And she's gonna
be like, well, okay, here's what's for dinner. Well, what's
all this? Well, you know, Fourth of July is coming up,
(05:23):
so I got four briskets and about twelve twenty rex
of ribs. Okay, well what's this? Oh, well, you know
Thanksgiving's coming up, so I need to get a Thanksgiving
turkey and do it. Well what's this, Well that's Christmas ham, right,
and you know the ham was there, so I figured
I need to get the ham. Well what's this? Well,
you know, Hib, if you buy six bottles of wine,
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you get ten percent off. She goes, okay, well did
you need sixty bottles of wine? Well, oh, you know,
ten percent off. I figured that and that's the whole deal.
And she as send to me. She goes, all this
food is gonna go to Laates. That's what exactly is
happening here. If we need money for the boar enforcement,
then pass a bill to get some money for the border.
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We don't need to pass a four trillion dollar debt
increase and all this stuff. And that's what Elon's saying.
He's like, Man, I'm doing and I'm working hard to
get all of these cuts and save us money. You
just wasted my time. And for a guy like Elon,
and you know that too, Michael, the most important thing
that guy has is time. And if you waste that
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guy's time, he's gonna get hissed off. And I'm kind
of with Elon on this. We don't need to spend
all this. This is what the whole point was to
cut all of this, and here we are just gonna
go waste it because we need this big beautiful bill.
We don't need this big beautiful bill.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No doubt.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
I think.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think what we're witnessing is the real power of
the swamp that President Trump. And I'm not saying one
way or the other is better necessarily, I think President
Trump would love to be able to take a chainsaw
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to the budget and carve out huge swaths of expenditures,
and he rode a wave of popularity at the beginning
of the administration with the release of information about all
the waste, and I think people thought this thing's going
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off a cliff. But maybe, just maybe we're getting it
under control. Maybe just maybe this is going to be
our moment because people have given up hope. The problem is,
in some ways that dosee exposures probably did some harm
to President Trump's big beautiful bill because now people were
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in powered and I think people expected to see massive changes,
and the Republicans didn't give him what he wanted. And
I think at some point he's decided I got to
claim a victory. I got to get this thing through.
That's part of governing. And wherever you come down on that,
I think that's a lot of where we are right now.
(08:20):
With more up to Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Any time you Freddy Fender has to rank as one
of the great stage now because Baltimar where just doesn't
have the same Can you imagine hearing white people pronounce
his name.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I like that guy because he would have had to
have a nickname. Baldi, Baldi, Hugh Erta, Hugh Urta. How
do you say here to Herda? How do you say it?
Whatever you know I'm talking about the one does the
tear Drop song. He's good. You know he's from Corpus.
You know what's the name they call him? Baldy. I
think these real names longer than that. It's like something
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something whatever. And then here it does this last name?
I think how you pronounce it? Uh, let's go to Kevin. Kevin,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Go ahead, Lorden.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
I actually wanted to get your take on a couple
of things. Michael.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Number one.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
A couple of months ago, Trump and Musque, we're going
to go to Fort Knox and tell us what they've found.
And then it went radio silent. So my conspiracy ship
theory radar one up and said, well, maybe there's something
going on there that they don't want us to know about.
So I wanted to see what your take was on
the whole Fort Knox thing and their visit. And then
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I had one other thing for you.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So I thought a lot about this. You have to
be careful because if you state anything that can be
perceived or misperceived by eighty five percent of our audience,
they will say, you're not support Trump, you never suported Trump,
you didn't sport Trump. Twenty sixteen, because Trump could fart
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and it didn't happen. I mean, Trump can do no wrong,
and I think that that is a dangerous approach for
a number of reasons. It's also undemocratic and un American.
By the same token, I am not one to quickly
criticize Trump as quickly as I would normally, because there
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is such a barrage incoming already that one has to
be careful because his agenda is I want his agenda
to be accomplished, and you don't want to wound him
in such a way that he's not able to do that.
So I'm mindful of that and I hold back. But
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as regards the I'll take the Fort Knox issue in particular,
when the President said we're going to go there, We're
going to see what's there, and we don't think there's
anything there. I don't know. I've people are uncomfortable not knowing.
If I say I don't know something, they get upset
because they know and they want me to know. Well,
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you don't know. You trusted Dan Bongeno or Glenn Beck
or who Sean Hannity or Thomas Massey or whoever you trusted,
you trusted someone else. You don't know, You just think
you know, and I don't know what's in fortnotes. There
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are a number of different theories. I continue to study
the issue, but I for the president to say they're
going to do that and then not do it. The
most charitable analysis would be he wanted to expose it,
He got there and it's so bad he can't tell us,
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can't tell us because it's that bad. That is a
charitable review. But you're welcome to have it. Then there
is he doesn't know and he just moved on possible
and there's pretty much anything in between, or he does
know and it turns out there is gold there. I
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tell true, Miss, it doesn't matter. Those are theories that
have to be put on the table. That's that's how
you that's the scientific method. You have to question. You
have to put the various theories out on the table,
even theories you don't believe. They have to be given voice.
I do think that Trump is a master, a master
at creating a number of headlines, and he floods his zone.
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Obama's administration used to do that. They would come at
you with so many bad actions that we couldn't focus
on all of them, and it's it's a Mike Leech offense.
You've got so much, you got a widespread in between
each linemen you got, you got wide receivers out, you
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got every you got trips right and one level. How
does that even happen? You've got an empty backfield and
then you've got motion, and you throw people off because
they're so distracted. So one theory is that didn't even matter.
It didn't matter to Trump. It stole the headlines for
the day. And what he's trying to do is keep
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this ship afloat, keep it headed in the right direction,
and then he has to throw off you know, flames
here and there to distract, to catch you know, shiny
objects here and there. That is the theory I hold
the most too. My problem is, and most people don't care.
When you just said that right now, I suspect most
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people said, oh yeah, what did happen with Fort Knox?
They were going to go to Fort Knox? Because if
there's a constant new and every watch Fox News, you know,
they got a chiron and then they got you know,
exploding news. We're going to this person, and everything's always
a rush. You ever notice everything's a rush? All right,
we got eighteen guests in this secue. You got a
brady bunch boxes. And then they do the whole thing
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of their intros. Okay, all right, and then they go
to the first person and he starts, and then about
the time he's halfway through, you know, a short answer,
they go, all right, we're out of time. Okay, we're
gonna get because you're supposed to have pace, they're creating pace,
but you're never actually getting in and digging into in
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any depth an analysis of what's going on. I suspect
Trump does that to distract, to entertain, to enliven, and
it's not really an issue he cares much. That's my suspicion.
And that's not a criticism, that's actually just an analysis
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of one of the things he does. He's a showman.
He gets it. That's what most politicians don't know.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
What's the name you say, Michael Goddy?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I think that last caller had a second question I
didn't get to, but I'll continue on that discussion. I
seem to lose a lot of folks on this issue,
on this personality trait, including my wife. When I state
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something that I believe to be true, an observation. Most
of the time it is without judgment. So if I
say that, I don't think Trump cared much about Fort Knox.
I think it's one of those things. I think it
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fits within a narrative that he has created. It's very
important to his governance that you cannot trust your government
and you cannot trust the media. And I think it's
important that he do that because we're constantly told by
people in government that we have, you know, to protect
democracy by the people endangering it. And I think that
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by creating an environment a tumultuous sense of trust or
lack of trust, he opens people to the idea that
whatever you see in the news is probably not what's
really happening. And I credit Trump for that. It has
been credited to uh Adam Carolla, the use of the
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first use of the word fake news, or the number
of folks that that you know, hey, you can say
they said it at this time, and then other people
you never know. These these these things are dynamic, But
I don't When Pambondi said we're going to release the
Epstein files and we're gonna do it now, there was
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a great deal of energy among the base for two
reasons Number one, these bastards did something awful and they
need to be exposed. Even if they don't right in jail,
they need to be exposed because that that's gonna there's
gonna be some people off themselves. They're gonna unlive themselves
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as a result of that, because of the shame and
embarrassment's gonna come out of there. They won't be able
to handle it, and it'll ruin them. It will ruin well,
it'll ruin some folks. The second reason is we just
really like salacious details, and that's we don't want to
admit that. We like to We like to uh cloak
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uh wrap our uh interest in sort of details, in
something more high minded. But there's a certain amount of
we just like to know who's a dirty old pervert.
We want the details. Although I have been strangely uninterested
in the Diddy true and I don't know why that is.
I was interested before it, I haven't followed a thing
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about it. I mean, they're all in one big freak show.
They're all weirdos, they're all screwing each other, they're all.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
One thing that has exposed is a lot of people
get to the top by submitting to sexual acts by
powerful people. I mean, in that sense, it's no different
than Howard Wines, than Harvey Weinstein, and it wasn't you know.
You think about the Rose McGowan and those who came
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forward to expose Harvey Weinstein, those weren't the only ones.
They're just the only ones mad because they didn't get
any more roles and they wanted it known what happened
to them. There's a lot of people that did get
the role and did become famous. Look, if you're willing
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to abandon your family, move to Hollywood and wait tables
on the midnight shift to get a chance to read
for a role with three seconds on screen, yeah, a
lot of those people are gonna have sex with Harvey
Weinstein to get the role because at that point they've
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kind of been screwed a bunch of different ways already.
But when the announcement came that we were going to
have the Epstein files and then we didn't get the
Epstein files, there were a series of these kind of
rug pulls, and I don't think people really care. I
think the Democrats and the Trump haters will say, hey, hey, guys,
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where's the Fort Knox Gold or is there not any Huh,
where's the Epstein files? Y'all were promised, but I don't
they already didn't like Trump. The people who love Trump,
you can't prime lose from Trump. So and I don't
know that the people in the middle double back. I
think a lot of people go there's a lot more entertainment, open,
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brazen entertainment to the political process today than there has
been in the past, and Trump uses that to his advantage.
So I think a lot Look, it's what you get
used to. You get numbed to those sorts of things,
And starting in twenty sixteen, we did, and I'm not
sure that's all bad. We had candidates driven from public
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life because of an indiscretion that they had had, you know,
some number of years before, who might have been better
legislators or leaders than the next guy, who you know,
is supposedly pristine in his sex life. I think that
Trump kind of reduced the bar to that and said, hey,
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what are you going to do? What are you going
to do as a leader, and how are you going
to do it? And I think that became more sort
of pride of place in what you're doing. Let's go
to Dave David on The Michael Berrig Show.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
Yeah, I just don't get what Trump has to pound
his chest about, you know, beating the Democratic ticket. He's
not honest with himself. He's narcisstic to the point of
mental illness. I voted for him all three times, but
look what the alternative was. I mean, he doesn't even
acknowledge the fact that he beat an extremely beatable ticket
in disarray, in absolute disarray. He's got no character, and
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nobody calls him out for it, or at least nobody
on the right side of the spectrum. I mean, Roger
Stallbach's got character. Tony Dungee's got character. Compare those two
to Trump and see what you get.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, hold on is character as you define it? Which
is which is almost with a with a moral or
is that the most important thing? Because I can tell
you this, Tony Dungee has said a couple of things
with regard to race that we're in the Barack Obama category.
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Tony Dungee is against abortion, and for some reason, our
folks tend to conflate you're against abortion with you agree
with me on other things, and you cannot do that.
If Amy Cony Barrett has not been your example. You
cannot do that, you know. Mike Pence rose to be
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the vice president on the basis that he woke up
in the morning saying he was against abortion. He went
to bed at night saying he was against abortion, and
when it came time he turned on Trump, MAGA, the
American people, decency, honor, and everything else, but he was
still against abortion. Being pro life and having pro life policies,
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both as law and in culture, are an important part
of our movement, but they are not the only part.
And like every other group, they want to be the
only part. And that's how we end up. And look,
there's folks like Colin Powell, and they go, well, he
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looked good in his uniform. He comes out and he
supports Barack Obama, becomes a left wing nut, but he
looked good in his uniforms activates the Michael Berry show.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Boys, get out in the room filled up with.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
All when listener emailed, he's got five hundred and thirty
five congressman and senators to wrangle. That's how you end
up with the BBB. You know, I believe, whatever you
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may think of what Elon has said, I believe that
Elon came into this process with a pure heart. I
think this was the dad who agreed to coach the
team because they didn't have one, and it's important that
the kids play a competitive sport and that that team
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not get dropped, so he took on the role. I
think he came in with the intention of doing very
good things and now separate and aside. I think he
got a real kick out of the star power of
hanging out with Donald Trump. That's not to say Elon
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was not a star, but there's nothing like Trump World.
And I think he enjoyed bringing his kid, throwing him
on his shoulders, strolling around. I think he enjoyed how
he was being interviewed with a with a different degree
of gravitas. It was just a different way he was
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talked to. He was discussed as being a very powerful man.
And in the political world in America, you don't overnight
attain that role if you run for office. By the
time you get it, they've taken a few pounds of flesh.
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He was, you know, flip the switch. He was there.
He was being allowed to run roughshod over anybody that
got in his way, and that's the power you don't get.
That's the great frustration of politics, and he got such
great response from most Americans as to what Doge was doing. Now,
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I do believe there were death threats, and that is
I will tell you that that is unnerving and it's
something he hadn't experienced before, and there was a toll taken.
I'm sure he was getting complaints from within the investor
relations groups of his companies. Sure, I'm sure he had
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longtime friends who were saying, what do you doing. Trump's
a monster, how are your help? I think, by and
large it was a very positive experience. And I think
he expected that the first budget bill that came out
was going to have his fingerprints on it, and that
was going to be his swan song and it was
going to be glorious, and then it wasn't. And I
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think that frustrated him. I do, And I think in
almost a naive way, this was his coming to grips
with the fact that the level of change you hope
to bring is probably not going to happen. And there's
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a certain there's a certain part of you that dies
at that moment, a certain part of the inner innocence
and optimism and hope, because if in Trump's first if
Trump's first bill when he's more popular he has ever been,
the Democrats are discredited, and you've had this opportunity and
you have exposed waste on a level Americans have never seen.
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You still can't get what you hoped to see in
the bill. I think that's devastating. And I think I
think he thought, I want a better bill, and I'm
willing to lay everything, every bit of political capital I
have developed into getting a better bill. And that's not
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how Trump plays. Trump does love him, hate him, or
wherever in between. Trump Trump's a brawler. You know, he
went after Thomas Massey, he got kind of rough with
Rand Paul last week. He does not like to be
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questioned and criticized. And that's not a judgment, that's a fact,
and that's part of That's a big part of his success.
It's a big part of his success because many people
hold their tongue. There were a lot of Republicans who
held their tongue and voted for that in the House
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when they didn't want to or when they wanted more
or maybe a little further right, and that was not
what they had intended. I think there was a lot
of that going on However, they did not want to
be the one that he was targeting. So in that sense,
you know, this is the bully pulpit, and if you
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don't build it and maintain it, then you don't have
a power to wield Trump. Trump wields that power as
the iron fist behind the velvet glove. And sometimes that
glove has to come off and people have to be
reminded because every one of them has an ego, and
that's what he does. He goes after Republicans much harder,
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and he does democracy. Noticed. He really makes it personal
with Republicans as opposed to Democrats, and that is because
he is also the leader of a party. There are
things he needs their vote on. But I think that
Elon came into this in the last you know, couple
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of weeks, since he's come out hard against this bill.
I think he was careful to avoid criticizing Trump personally.
I think he was careful to avoid creating a direct conflict.
I think he thought he could operate outside the system
and push this thing more toward a conservative, fiscally conservative bill.
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And I think Trump's way of getting him to lay
off was to take a shot. And that's a very
natural response for him. I don't think Trump is is
losing sleep over this conflict. The fact that that Elon
took a conciliatory tone last night tells me that he is.
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I think I think he's I wouldn't be shocked if
if Elon kind of goes back to industry and and
gets out of this process because he's not used to
taking a punch. He's a smart guy. I have the
utmost respect for his brains, his his ability to effect things,
to make things happen, to manifest you know, these visions.
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But I think this process has left him a little
beaten up. Uh And and Trump will keep Trump will
keep moving forward.
It's that time time time, time lucking load. So Michael
Very Show is on the air. Here's Johnny. I am
the danger. I am the one who knocks. We'll do
it a lot, and we'll do it live.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Last year I spent more money on spill liquor. There's
fires from one side of this world to the other
than you may. You're talking to the rolics wearing diamond
ring wearing Je's stealing, who wheeling, dealing livings in right,
Jack flying set off a gun, and I'm having a
hard time holding his allegators.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
John in the spoke up Salid, this one alwful. She
can tell that a way here.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
That I was bad to the bowl, head of the bowl,
bad of the bowl, bad of the bowl.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Let my dog. So now that'll be the end of it.
I will not look for you. I will not pursue you.
But if you don't I will look for you. I
will find you, and I will kill you.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
A minute the half that I'm bad of the bowl,
bad of the bowl, bad of the ball.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I want to pray, what again, I tell you I
double day.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Our friends at the Public Mood Company in the Heights,
we'll be having a shin dig Today open to the
public from two to seven, sort of an open house
come party.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It's a celebration of the one hundredth anniversary of the building.
Chris Conrad owns there that is Republic Boot Company, and
there'll be live music, they'll be drinks, they'll be pop ups,
it'll be it'll be a good time. You know, people
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who are good at what they do understand that what
you think you're doing is not usually what you're actually doing.
You're in you know, cal McNair understands that they're in
the entertainment business. Now Texans fans don't hear that entertain football.
It's entertainment. It's entertainment. The problem is our house of
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representatives are in Texas has gotten into the entertainment business
rather than the problem solving business. But Chris Conrad at
Republic Boot Company understands that not only do you have
to make a quality custom boot, but you got to
create an experience. And I don't think anybody does that
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the way they do. Nobody does that in town the
way they do. He gets it. There's always live music.
You go in and have a whiskey, and it matters
because it's more than just a pair of boots. It
is a whole experience around it. But anyway, I was thinking,
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you know, it's a it's a shindig. I said the
word shindig, and I looked up the word shindig tonight today.
This earlier. The word first was first recorded in eighteen
fifty nine as a southernism for a kick in the show.
(04:01):
That's what it originally meant. Of course, as they say,
within the next decade, it came to mean a loud
and lively party. Also, the little left handed lesbian Affirmative
Action press secretary Carinne Jean Pierre just wants you to
know she's she's got a book out and she has
(04:22):
left the Democrat Party. Just so you know, breaking news.
She has announced she has left the Democrat Party. She
is now independent. Well, what are the ramifications that she's
left it? It's different now she woke up and she's
no longer the Democrat Party. What does that mean? Juj
(04:43):
just wanted you to know that, just wants you to
know what what what she was? Yeah, and she also
fed her cats yesterday and both of those are about
as relevant to your life. Let's go to Randy Rendi.
You're up.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Michael.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
My little analogy is, you know, like my wife calls
me and said, hey, honey, I forgot to lay something
out of the freezer. Stop by Hib and get something
to cook for dinner tonight. So I go to Hib
get something cooked for dinner, and I tell you, hey, wife,
come help me unload all my groceries. And she's gonna
be like, well, okay, here's what's for dinner. Well, what's
all this? Well, you know, Fourth of July is coming up,
(05:23):
so I got four briskets and about twelve twenty rex
of ribs. Okay, well what's this? Oh, well, you know
Thanksgiving's coming up, so I need to get a Thanksgiving
turkey and do it. Well what's this, Well that's Christmas ham, right,
and you know the ham was there, so I figured
I need to get the ham. Well what's this? Well,
you know, Hib, if you buy six bottles of wine,
(05:43):
you get ten percent off. She goes, okay, well did
you need sixty bottles of wine? Well, oh, you know,
ten percent off. I figured that and that's the whole deal.
And she as send to me. She goes, all this
food is gonna go to Laates. That's what exactly is
happening here. If we need money for the boar enforcement,
then pass a bill to get some money for the border.
(06:04):
We don't need to pass a four trillion dollar debt
increase and all this stuff. And that's what Elon's saying.
He's like, Man, I'm doing and I'm working hard to
get all of these cuts and save us money. You
just wasted my time. And for a guy like Elon,
and you know that too, Michael, the most important thing
that guy has is time. And if you waste that
(06:25):
guy's time, he's gonna get hissed off. And I'm kind
of with Elon on this. We don't need to spend
all this. This is what the whole point was to
cut all of this, and here we are just gonna
go waste it because we need this big beautiful bill.
We don't need this big beautiful bill.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
No doubt.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
I think.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think what we're witnessing is the real power of
the swamp that President Trump. And I'm not saying one
way or the other is better necessarily, I think President
Trump would love to be able to take a chainsaw
(07:13):
to the budget and carve out huge swaths of expenditures,
and he rode a wave of popularity at the beginning
of the administration with the release of information about all
the waste, and I think people thought this thing's going
(07:36):
off a cliff. But maybe, just maybe we're getting it
under control. Maybe just maybe this is going to be
our moment because people have given up hope. The problem is,
in some ways that dosee exposures probably did some harm
to President Trump's big beautiful bill because now people were
(08:00):
in powered and I think people expected to see massive changes,
and the Republicans didn't give him what he wanted. And
I think at some point he's decided I got to
claim a victory. I got to get this thing through.
That's part of governing. And wherever you come down on that,
I think that's a lot of where we are right now.
(08:20):
With more up to Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Any time you Freddy Fender has to rank as one
of the great stage now because Baltimar where just doesn't
have the same Can you imagine hearing white people pronounce
his name.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I like that guy because he would have had to
have a nickname. Baldi, Baldi, Hugh Erta, Hugh Urta. How
do you say here to Herda? How do you say it?
Whatever you know I'm talking about the one does the
tear Drop song. He's good. You know he's from Corpus.
You know what's the name they call him? Baldy. I
think these real names longer than that. It's like something
(09:04):
something whatever. And then here it does this last name?
I think how you pronounce it? Uh, let's go to Kevin. Kevin,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Go ahead, Lorden.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
I actually wanted to get your take on a couple
of things. Michael.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Number one.
Speaker 9 (09:20):
A couple of months ago, Trump and Musque, we're going
to go to Fort Knox and tell us what they've found.
And then it went radio silent. So my conspiracy ship
theory radar one up and said, well, maybe there's something
going on there that they don't want us to know about.
So I wanted to see what your take was on
the whole Fort Knox thing and their visit. And then
(09:41):
I had one other thing for you.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So I thought a lot about this. You have to
be careful because if you state anything that can be
perceived or misperceived by eighty five percent of our audience,
they will say, you're not support Trump, you never suported Trump,
you didn't sport Trump. Twenty sixteen, because Trump could fart
(10:04):
and it didn't happen. I mean, Trump can do no wrong,
and I think that that is a dangerous approach for
a number of reasons. It's also undemocratic and un American.
By the same token, I am not one to quickly
criticize Trump as quickly as I would normally, because there
(10:26):
is such a barrage incoming already that one has to
be careful because his agenda is I want his agenda
to be accomplished, and you don't want to wound him
in such a way that he's not able to do that.
So I'm mindful of that and I hold back. But
(10:48):
as regards the I'll take the Fort Knox issue in particular,
when the President said we're going to go there, We're
going to see what's there, and we don't think there's
anything there. I don't know. I've people are uncomfortable not knowing.
If I say I don't know something, they get upset
because they know and they want me to know. Well,
(11:10):
you don't know. You trusted Dan Bongeno or Glenn Beck
or who Sean Hannity or Thomas Massey or whoever you trusted,
you trusted someone else. You don't know, You just think
you know, and I don't know what's in fortnotes. There
(11:31):
are a number of different theories. I continue to study
the issue, but I for the president to say they're
going to do that and then not do it. The
most charitable analysis would be he wanted to expose it,
He got there and it's so bad he can't tell us,
(11:56):
can't tell us because it's that bad. That is a
charitable review. But you're welcome to have it. Then there
is he doesn't know and he just moved on possible
and there's pretty much anything in between, or he does
know and it turns out there is gold there. I
(12:20):
tell true, Miss, it doesn't matter. Those are theories that
have to be put on the table. That's that's how
you that's the scientific method. You have to question. You
have to put the various theories out on the table,
even theories you don't believe. They have to be given voice.
I do think that Trump is a master, a master
at creating a number of headlines, and he floods his zone.
(12:44):
Obama's administration used to do that. They would come at
you with so many bad actions that we couldn't focus
on all of them, and it's it's a Mike Leech offense.
You've got so much, you got a widespread in between
each linemen you got, you got wide receivers out, you
(13:07):
got every you got trips right and one level. How
does that even happen? You've got an empty backfield and
then you've got motion, and you throw people off because
they're so distracted. So one theory is that didn't even matter.
It didn't matter to Trump. It stole the headlines for
the day. And what he's trying to do is keep
(13:31):
this ship afloat, keep it headed in the right direction,
and then he has to throw off you know, flames
here and there to distract, to catch you know, shiny
objects here and there. That is the theory I hold
the most too. My problem is, and most people don't care.
When you just said that right now, I suspect most
(13:52):
people said, oh yeah, what did happen with Fort Knox?
They were going to go to Fort Knox? Because if
there's a constant new and every watch Fox News, you know,
they got a chiron and then they got you know,
exploding news. We're going to this person, and everything's always
a rush. You ever notice everything's a rush? All right,
we got eighteen guests in this secue. You got a
brady bunch boxes. And then they do the whole thing
(14:14):
of their intros. Okay, all right, and then they go
to the first person and he starts, and then about
the time he's halfway through, you know, a short answer,
they go, all right, we're out of time. Okay, we're
gonna get because you're supposed to have pace, they're creating pace,
but you're never actually getting in and digging into in
(14:34):
any depth an analysis of what's going on. I suspect
Trump does that to distract, to entertain, to enliven, and
it's not really an issue he cares much. That's my suspicion.
And that's not a criticism, that's actually just an analysis
(14:56):
of one of the things he does. He's a showman.
He gets it. That's what most politicians don't know.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
What's the name you say, Michael Goddy?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I think that last caller had a second question I
didn't get to, but I'll continue on that discussion. I
seem to lose a lot of folks on this issue,
on this personality trait, including my wife. When I state
(15:31):
something that I believe to be true, an observation. Most
of the time it is without judgment. So if I
say that, I don't think Trump cared much about Fort Knox.
I think it's one of those things. I think it
(15:53):
fits within a narrative that he has created. It's very
important to his governance that you cannot trust your government
and you cannot trust the media. And I think it's
important that he do that because we're constantly told by
people in government that we have, you know, to protect
democracy by the people endangering it. And I think that
(16:13):
by creating an environment a tumultuous sense of trust or
lack of trust, he opens people to the idea that
whatever you see in the news is probably not what's
really happening. And I credit Trump for that. It has
been credited to uh Adam Carolla, the use of the
(16:39):
first use of the word fake news, or the number
of folks that that you know, hey, you can say
they said it at this time, and then other people
you never know. These these these things are dynamic, But
I don't When Pambondi said we're going to release the
Epstein files and we're gonna do it now, there was
(17:00):
a great deal of energy among the base for two
reasons Number one, these bastards did something awful and they
need to be exposed. Even if they don't right in jail,
they need to be exposed because that that's gonna there's
gonna be some people off themselves. They're gonna unlive themselves
(17:22):
as a result of that, because of the shame and
embarrassment's gonna come out of there. They won't be able
to handle it, and it'll ruin them. It will ruin well,
it'll ruin some folks. The second reason is we just
really like salacious details, and that's we don't want to
admit that. We like to We like to uh cloak
(17:42):
uh wrap our uh interest in sort of details, in
something more high minded. But there's a certain amount of
we just like to know who's a dirty old pervert.
We want the details. Although I have been strangely uninterested
in the Diddy true and I don't know why that is.
I was interested before it, I haven't followed a thing
(18:06):
about it. I mean, they're all in one big freak show.
They're all weirdos, they're all screwing each other, they're all.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
One thing that has exposed is a lot of people
get to the top by submitting to sexual acts by
powerful people. I mean, in that sense, it's no different
than Howard Wines, than Harvey Weinstein, and it wasn't you know.
You think about the Rose McGowan and those who came
(18:40):
forward to expose Harvey Weinstein, those weren't the only ones.
They're just the only ones mad because they didn't get
any more roles and they wanted it known what happened
to them. There's a lot of people that did get
the role and did become famous. Look, if you're willing
(19:01):
to abandon your family, move to Hollywood and wait tables
on the midnight shift to get a chance to read
for a role with three seconds on screen, yeah, a
lot of those people are gonna have sex with Harvey
Weinstein to get the role because at that point they've
(19:23):
kind of been screwed a bunch of different ways already.
But when the announcement came that we were going to
have the Epstein files and then we didn't get the
Epstein files, there were a series of these kind of
rug pulls, and I don't think people really care. I
think the Democrats and the Trump haters will say, hey, hey, guys,
(19:46):
where's the Fort Knox Gold or is there not any Huh,
where's the Epstein files? Y'all were promised, but I don't
they already didn't like Trump. The people who love Trump,
you can't prime lose from Trump. So and I don't
know that the people in the middle double back. I
think a lot of people go there's a lot more entertainment, open,
(20:07):
brazen entertainment to the political process today than there has
been in the past, and Trump uses that to his advantage.
So I think a lot Look, it's what you get
used to. You get numbed to those sorts of things,
And starting in twenty sixteen, we did, and I'm not
sure that's all bad. We had candidates driven from public
(20:28):
life because of an indiscretion that they had had, you know,
some number of years before, who might have been better
legislators or leaders than the next guy, who you know,
is supposedly pristine in his sex life. I think that
Trump kind of reduced the bar to that and said, hey,
(20:49):
what are you going to do? What are you going
to do as a leader, and how are you going
to do it? And I think that became more sort
of pride of place in what you're doing. Let's go
to Dave David on The Michael Berrig Show.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
Yeah, I just don't get what Trump has to pound
his chest about, you know, beating the Democratic ticket. He's
not honest with himself. He's narcisstic to the point of
mental illness. I voted for him all three times, but
look what the alternative was. I mean, he doesn't even
acknowledge the fact that he beat an extremely beatable ticket
in disarray, in absolute disarray. He's got no character, and
(21:28):
nobody calls him out for it, or at least nobody
on the right side of the spectrum. I mean, Roger
Stallbach's got character. Tony Dungee's got character. Compare those two
to Trump and see what you get.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well, hold on is character as you define it? Which
is which is almost with a with a moral or
is that the most important thing? Because I can tell
you this, Tony Dungee has said a couple of things
with regard to race that we're in the Barack Obama category.
(22:01):
Tony Dungee is against abortion, and for some reason, our
folks tend to conflate you're against abortion with you agree
with me on other things, and you cannot do that.
If Amy Cony Barrett has not been your example. You
cannot do that, you know. Mike Pence rose to be
(22:24):
the vice president on the basis that he woke up
in the morning saying he was against abortion. He went
to bed at night saying he was against abortion, and
when it came time he turned on Trump, MAGA, the
American people, decency, honor, and everything else, but he was
still against abortion. Being pro life and having pro life policies,
(22:51):
both as law and in culture, are an important part
of our movement, but they are not the only part.
And like every other group, they want to be the
only part. And that's how we end up. And look,
there's folks like Colin Powell, and they go, well, he
(23:11):
looked good in his uniform. He comes out and he
supports Barack Obama, becomes a left wing nut, but he
looked good in his uniforms activates the Michael Berry show.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Boys, get out in the room filled up with.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
All when listener emailed, he's got five hundred and thirty
five congressman and senators to wrangle. That's how you end
up with the BBB. You know, I believe, whatever you
(23:46):
may think of what Elon has said, I believe that
Elon came into this process with a pure heart. I
think this was the dad who agreed to coach the
team because they didn't have one, and it's important that
the kids play a competitive sport and that that team
(24:07):
not get dropped, so he took on the role. I
think he came in with the intention of doing very
good things and now separate and aside. I think he
got a real kick out of the star power of
hanging out with Donald Trump. That's not to say Elon
(24:29):
was not a star, but there's nothing like Trump World.
And I think he enjoyed bringing his kid, throwing him
on his shoulders, strolling around. I think he enjoyed how
he was being interviewed with a with a different degree
of gravitas. It was just a different way he was
(24:51):
talked to. He was discussed as being a very powerful man.
And in the political world in America, you don't overnight
attain that role if you run for office. By the
time you get it, they've taken a few pounds of flesh.
(25:11):
He was, you know, flip the switch. He was there.
He was being allowed to run roughshod over anybody that
got in his way, and that's the power you don't get.
That's the great frustration of politics, and he got such
great response from most Americans as to what Doge was doing. Now,
(25:36):
I do believe there were death threats, and that is
I will tell you that that is unnerving and it's
something he hadn't experienced before, and there was a toll taken.
I'm sure he was getting complaints from within the investor
relations groups of his companies. Sure, I'm sure he had
(25:58):
longtime friends who were saying, what do you doing. Trump's
a monster, how are your help? I think, by and
large it was a very positive experience. And I think
he expected that the first budget bill that came out
was going to have his fingerprints on it, and that
was going to be his swan song and it was
going to be glorious, and then it wasn't. And I
(26:23):
think that frustrated him. I do, And I think in
almost a naive way, this was his coming to grips
with the fact that the level of change you hope
to bring is probably not going to happen. And there's
(26:45):
a certain there's a certain part of you that dies
at that moment, a certain part of the inner innocence
and optimism and hope, because if in Trump's first if
Trump's first bill when he's more popular he has ever been,
the Democrats are discredited, and you've had this opportunity and
you have exposed waste on a level Americans have never seen.
(27:08):
You still can't get what you hoped to see in
the bill. I think that's devastating. And I think I
think he thought, I want a better bill, and I'm
willing to lay everything, every bit of political capital I
have developed into getting a better bill. And that's not
(27:31):
how Trump plays. Trump does love him, hate him, or
wherever in between. Trump Trump's a brawler. You know, he
went after Thomas Massey, he got kind of rough with
Rand Paul last week. He does not like to be
(27:55):
questioned and criticized. And that's not a judgment, that's a fact,
and that's part of That's a big part of his success.
It's a big part of his success because many people
hold their tongue. There were a lot of Republicans who
held their tongue and voted for that in the House
(28:15):
when they didn't want to or when they wanted more
or maybe a little further right, and that was not
what they had intended. I think there was a lot
of that going on However, they did not want to
be the one that he was targeting. So in that sense,
you know, this is the bully pulpit, and if you
(28:36):
don't build it and maintain it, then you don't have
a power to wield Trump. Trump wields that power as
the iron fist behind the velvet glove. And sometimes that
glove has to come off and people have to be
reminded because every one of them has an ego, and
that's what he does. He goes after Republicans much harder,
(28:59):
and he does democracy. Noticed. He really makes it personal
with Republicans as opposed to Democrats, and that is because
he is also the leader of a party. There are
things he needs their vote on. But I think that
Elon came into this in the last you know, couple
(29:19):
of weeks, since he's come out hard against this bill.
I think he was careful to avoid criticizing Trump personally.
I think he was careful to avoid creating a direct conflict.
I think he thought he could operate outside the system
and push this thing more toward a conservative, fiscally conservative bill.
(29:47):
And I think Trump's way of getting him to lay
off was to take a shot. And that's a very
natural response for him. I don't think Trump is is
losing sleep over this conflict. The fact that that Elon
took a conciliatory tone last night tells me that he is.
(30:10):
I think I think he's I wouldn't be shocked if
if Elon kind of goes back to industry and and
gets out of this process because he's not used to
taking a punch. He's a smart guy. I have the
utmost respect for his brains, his his ability to effect things,
to make things happen, to manifest you know, these visions.
(30:34):
But I think this process has left him a little
beaten up. Uh And and Trump will keep Trump will
keep moving forward.
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