October 22, 2025 • 28 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mark, what'd you get arrested for?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
My wife did. She had a speeding ticket thirty five
years ago, and she went into the driver's to get
myse get my son his driver's license. He was sixteen
years old, and when he gave when she gave them
her license, they arrested her for not paying a traffic
ticket in Sierra Blanca in New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Dang, that's harsh.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And then what.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, I mean, as she called me and said, hey,
you need to come bail me out of jail because
I got arrested, and I thought she was joking. So
the actually the state trooper had to get on the
phone and convince me that he had actually arrested her
at the driver's test station.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And so what came of that?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Nothing? I ended up had just having to bail her
out and then come back and pay the pay the
fine from Sierra Blanca.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Kind of feels like we could have just paid the
fine and a penalty on top of it and avoided
all the criminal repercussions. You know, when you make everybody
into a criminal, then people are less willing to punish
real crime. It was a story somebody email me. You
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see if I can find it. Yeah, uh no, that's
not it. I must have deleted it. But the guy
was saying that he'd had too much to drink, so
he got in the back seat of his car and
went sleep, and the cop pulled up and he's parked
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in the parking lot and told him to get out
of the car. He didn't want to, but the cop insisted,
and then he got him for public intox which he
was inside the car. He wasn't. Look. Cops are human
like everybody else, and some of them make mistakes. And
the ones who make mistakes are more likely to make
mistakes than the others because they're guys that shouldn't have
a badge in the first place. And we've all seen
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that person. They're out of control, power, kick, bad marriage,
unhappy life. Everybody knows about that kind of guy, and
departments and their peers have to be careful to deal
with that kind of guy. Every cop is not right
every time, and if you don't deal with a guy
like that, you reduce confidence and support in law enforcement.
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And our system relies on public support law enforcement, and
that's how Rodney Ellis is allowed to thrive. With these
judges letting everybody lose is if you unfairly enforce the law,
then you create an environment where there is no support
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and respect for the law, and that's when your system collapses.
Whitney and Birmingham writes, my sweet husband was arrested for
DWI in college thirty years ago. No explanation really needed.
He had to call his head deacon at a small
town Baptist church, his dad to Bailey Mount.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
His dad was the head deacon in small town Bapisters.
Daddy made him spend the night in jail to send
a clear message. All that said, my husband had to
get a job to pay his attorney's fees, which is
where he and I met. We'll celebrate twenty years of
marriage in three weeks with three beautiful kids, and I'm
proud to say he has an incredibly successful medical medical
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career as a pulmonologist. Funny how that fateful jail stint
led us to this wonderful life. Thanks and Gigam Whitney
in Birmingham. There's what No the in sentenced him to life, Jim,
But that's not very nice, Czar. Many years ago, I
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had got me a speeding ticket. Oh, this is from
Kenny Allen. That doesn't surprise me. I'm surprised Kenny Alla
hadn't been to prison. Many years ago, I had me
a speeding ticket in some suburb of Dallas Farmer's branch.
I think it was I don't remember why the hell
I was in that part of town, but anyhow, I
get a minor speeding ticket.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I had no intention of ever.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Going back to Farmer's branch, so I paid it by
mail and never thought anything about it.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Fast forward a year or so. I go to get
my driver's license renewed, and.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
The lady behind the counter says she cannot renew my
license because I have an unpaid ticket in Farmer's branch.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I tell her I paid the ticket.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
She says, yes, it's showing paid in Farmer's branch, but
it's not showing up in the OMNI system. So you're
telling me you can't renew my license because someone in
your department has failed to do their job.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I was hot. Next thing I know, she asked, am
I protesting?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I said, you're damn right, I am, bam license suspended.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I changed my mind. I'm not protesting anymore. I thought
I was protesting. I'm not protestings made with the goodness
of real Jello.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Puddinges, a one one year old New Jersey woman who
still works six days a week in her jewelry shop
alongside her daughter and granddaughter, says, if I retire, I
would die. Story from ABC seven in New York City.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Every week you can find Anne Angeleetti on the move,
buzzing around the Diamond District. Okay, she's still bargaining.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Make it a man of price.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Stangimin, I love you you all dest and she's always
looking out for her customers naked straight.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
And there is no stranger to hard work.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
As a child, she left school to help out at
her family grocery store in Brooklyn. Her dad sold ice
door to door in a horse drawn cart. This was
before refrigeration was even invented.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Don't forget out No.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
One hundred, one hundred and one to be exact, But
who's counting. This is a lady who was eighty twenty
years ago and continues to run her own business, Curiosity
Jewelry and Creskill with her daughter and granddaughter.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
If I retire, I would die, so I cannot stay home.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Are on the moon.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
She hasn't stayed home since her husband went off to
fight World War Two and rolled up her sleeves and
went to work at the navy yard, then as a waitress.
But she always had a passion for her fashion.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
How many days a week do you come to work?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Six?
Speaker 7 (06:44):
My store is open five days, huh, and Monday I
go into the city.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
So we asked the secret to her success. Rule number
one self care.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
MT's to get out. You must shower, you must eat,
you must take care.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Of itself, and don't forget to find your happiness.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
If you don't like what you're doing, then change.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
The centenarian says, always focus on building relationships first.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
See I don't care if my customers don't buy. They
come in, we have coffee.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
And clearly her business associates enjoy her too, honest inspecial
for me and myself. That love for what she does
keeps her going one foot in front of the other.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Make the most of that day.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
She's one tough cookie.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
I'm happy working every day.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
How would you get arrested for?
Speaker 9 (07:55):
Hey, I got rested fifty years ago in little town
of Seymour, Texas for being an escaped convict from Florida.
Mistaken identity. Yeah, I was a student at Tech. I
was on my way to Dallas do research on my
thesis and I got stopped for speedy. They felled me
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in the holding fell They go through my vehicle and
they determined that I'm a tech student and a military dependent,
so they finally let me go. Now the real irony
is that spring I'm in Austin, Texas, and I'm telling
the story to someone and the person standing next to
him is turns out to be a law enforcement officer
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from Florida, and he says, he opens up and says,
you meet the description of that person. They let me go.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Wow, that's that's a story.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
William Wright Czar, my old boss, when we were copier technicians,
went to fix the copier at the League City Police Department.
The dispatch girl let him fix the copier and then
ran his license. He had an old ticket and she
called a beat cop in to arrest him. I refused
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to even go in the door after that, as I
was on parole. Shannon, what'd you get arrested?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
For?
Speaker 10 (09:25):
Me and my friend? We were about twelve years old
and there was a grain factory in our town and
we climbed up to the top of the grain factory.
And broke the lock on the door and proceeded to
swing and fought down into the grain and give me
like a grain silo.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yes, And so you fell into the grain and then
how did you get out?
Speaker 10 (09:49):
There was ladders you climbed back up to the top.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
That sounded like me cool?
Speaker 10 (09:55):
It was cool if we did.
Speaker 11 (09:56):
We're the ones.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
How'd y'all get caught?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (10:01):
A police officer came up and came up there and
loved just about six or seven of us in a car,
took some police station, called all her parents. My dad said,
I'll be there to pick you up before church starts.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So he lets you stay the night.
Speaker 10 (10:16):
No, just today?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh okay, all.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Right, that's an interesting story, Skeeter. How'd you get arrested?
Speaker 12 (10:25):
So I'm twenty one years old. We're in Humble, Texas
where we live at it and there's a nightclub called
Stetson's and we you know, we stayed that night, me
and my buddy until lights came on. He ended up
finding a girl to go home with and I didn't.
I was we had work in the morning. So you know,
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lights came on, everyone runs to the bathroom and you
know it's a long line. I'm like, I can make it.
So I go out to my truck and and I
had to my house, which is about five miles away
from the nightclub, and decide I can't make it.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I got to pull over.
Speaker 12 (11:04):
I gotta go to the bathroom. I gotta do something.
And so I pull over in the Humble County Library
parking lot and I pull over in a you know,
a corner corner of the parking lot, and I open
my door and I, you know, go to pee, and
you know, outside my door. Well before I finish, I
hear a voice from behind me say, hey, you know,
we need to have a conversation when you get done. So,
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you know, I turn around, and of course it's a cop.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Ouch sip the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Simple man, the more you read about this budget bill,
keep the government shut down. Don't ever open it again.
Three point nine million for LGBTQ plus democracy grants in
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the Balkans, thirteen point four million for civic engagements in Zimbabwe,
two point nine million for desert locust relocation in Africa.
Cut every dollar that's not being spent in this country.
Let's do that the first year and the next year
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will cut all the waste within this country. It's ridiculous,
it's absurd, it's it's it's got to stop. We've tolerated it.
They all know it. We all know it. Everyone knows it.
Why are we sending money to relocate locusts in Africa?
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Your money? Every paycheck, you don't see what you were paid.
You see what's left of it. Because the government gets
theirs first, and they take it and then they just
throw it to the wind. Think about that.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
It's infuriating.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
They're not honorable, they're low lives. This scum that is
your money. Imagine sitting idly by and watching this happen. Jordan,
why'd you go to jail?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
I went to my wife's ten year Smithville High School
reunion and she asked me if I had helped pick
up that stuck tiger statue next door, which I didn't
know was the city hall. And I thought it would
be a pretty good idea at that point in the night,
so we loaded it up in the back of our
explore well down at the seven eleven. The officers arrived.
I'm in the passenger seat and I get the knock
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on the window and say, did you steal that Tiger,
and we spent Father's Day weekend in jail, got Frans
pointed over to county and then turns out later the
arresting officer and then having some issues with the department,
and she's now spending time in jail, and I got
a good story out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Wow, what were her issues with the department?
Speaker 8 (14:17):
She was angling for? You know, maybe not getting as
good of treatment because she was a lady. And I
think there were some issues as well with some people
in her family that she might have been taking some
money from that she wasn't supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh wow, how did you know all this?
Speaker 8 (14:33):
Well? After she posted and made fun of us with
the statue after the arrest. Now, I think part of
the reason we didn't get out so quickly was I
didn't realize the wast nest inside the statue when we
lifted it up and put it in the car. The
officers who unloaded it from my vehicle did. That may
be why it took a little bit at a time.
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But yeah, there was a story down the road about
a year later, after we've been checking in and doing
all the things we're supposed to and no, it's cleared.
It never happened.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
How big was the statue?
Speaker 8 (15:07):
I would say, you know, it didn't feel like probably
two hundred pounds at the time, but just the same
as the Huddo hippos are all over the place, the
Smithfield Tigers are all over the place with the statues.
And it took two of us to put it in
the car.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But well, one of you was a girl.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
Though, no, no, no, my wife did not do it.
We had we actually, her best girlfriend's husband helped me
lift it, and I got to know them really well
over the next eighteen hours. But you did.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Did y'all have to put the back seat down?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Or how tall was it?
Speaker 8 (15:40):
I'd say it was probably three feet tall, probably three
feet probably about three feet long.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Was it on a pedestal or anything?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Was it on the ground?
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Yes, a flat platform on the ground. But I didn't
realize this bars in the middle of downtown Smithville, which
you know, I didn't know the surroundings very well. I
didn't know what was the city hall's statue.
Speaker 13 (16:02):
You got an action like that, yeah, yeah, well, and
at any point the bartender who called it in, who
was sitting outside when the smoke break, could have said, guys,
put that down, and that probably would have been enough
to stop us.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
But now we got a better story.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
How much would you guess you had to dream?
Speaker 8 (16:22):
Well, they didn't have a DJ for the night, and
I'm kind of known for having a pretty decent playlist,
so I got I got to dream free and I
did not drive, but uh, I could still pick up
a tiger.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
M made sense at the time.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
How old were you?
Speaker 8 (16:39):
Let's see, this was uh seven years ago, so I
think I was twenty seven. Little baby girl on the way,
I'm a plumbering college station. I called you about the
Chrispykreeing Donuts having the best last batch a couple of
months back.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Oh yes, yes, yes they burned.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Down, Yes they did. Now I'm a plumber up here
in college station. Met my wife at a bar that
I used to run and own here and we had
a great time doing that. But uh no, we had
a baby girl at about two years old in one
that was just months old, staying in her parents' house
in Smithville while we went to this reunion, and I
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don't enjoy driving back through there.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
So how did that go?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Where your wife had to tell her parents who were
keeping your granddaughter, are their granddaughter? That their son in
laws in jail.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Oh no, no, but what worse than that? She was
in the cell too down for me. I called from
the back of the squad car. I was able to
get my phone out. I called my mother in law,
I called my mom, and I called my boss and
uh I made I mean, I made three phone calls
and it wasn't that big of an issue. I guess
nobody knew I did, and they took it after that.
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But I just needed to make sure the kids knew
where we were, and parents knew where we were and
didn't know how long we'd be in there, being Father's
Day weekend, so I need to make sure work knew
where I was.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wow, that's a story.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Yeah it is, and that's all it is. Now, there's
it never happened.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You have your own plumbing shopper, you work for somebody else.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
No, I work for JBG Plumbing. I've been at it
ten years and uh we do commercial and residential. But
h I love it. I didn't come from this background
I did. I love the bar and restaurant industry I
got to have. I got to have Ray Wiley Hubbard
and Walt Wilkins and Gary p and just wonderful time
doing that stuff. But the long nights and having a family,
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it it added up, and so.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You became yes, sir, you don't chew your nails, do you?
Speaker 8 (18:41):
No? I do not.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You know, it all needs to roll downhill, it does.
You know my friend Michael Robinson.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
I've got a shop next door to him.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Oh you do.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
We're on Highway thirty next to him. Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Do you have anything bad to say about him?
Speaker 8 (18:55):
I don't know him personally, but I drop by his
sign every day.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
All right, Well check and see if you can find
anything dirty on him. Let me know, I will wade.
Why did you go to jail?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Go here to sterilize an animal? Back around two thousand
and one, me and my wife got a dog from
the pound and we decided, you know, we had it
for a few days. We didn't know it had parbo
and had damn well died up underneath the porch. Years
go by years. I'm talking probably eight nine years from driving.
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I didn't put on my tournament signal and cop comes
up behind me, pulls me on over, give him all
my stuff, and he goes, well, you got a warrant
for your arrest. I was like, what, I don't have
any warrants and he goes, yes, sir, you got a
city warrant. Asked what it was about. He said, I
don't know until we get back to the jail.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
I was like, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So I'm sitting there in the holding cell and I
see him starting laughing, and I'm like, why are you laughing?
He says, what you're in here for? I was like,
what is it? Well, he said, well, did you get
the doll from the pound and not cut off its balls?
I was like, yeah, yeah, long time ago.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
I did enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Margaret writes, I got a spitting ticket outside of the grange.
I just forgot to pay it. A year later, I
got stopped in the same area by the same deputy.
He was so proud of himself, remembering my car, a
little red BMW, and was thrilled to take me to jail.
So I got my one phone call and I called
a friend in Houston come bail me out. She called
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my brother to do it, and he did, letting me
know I'd taken him away from an Oilers playoff game
on TV. After I'd been in the cell for a bit,
they put another woman in with me. She was in
for stabbing her boyfriend. Obviously, the deputy wanted to make
sure I learned my lesson. That might have been what
he wanted to do. I give him benefit of the doubt. Mark,
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what'd you get arrested for?
Speaker 14 (20:58):
Yes, sir, I got a I said for DUI drove
in from Hester's Park, Colorado, the conro and a buddy
of mine owed me some money for an airplane over
in h Cyprus. So he said, come on over, I'll
pay you money because I came into town to sell
all my goods so I could go into the military.
And so I went over his house and he sat down.
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He paid me the money he owed me. He goes, oh,
just sound. I was watch the football game for a
little while, and he said, hey, we just have a
cocktail with me and whatever. So I had one drink
with him, got watched a little bit of football, got
in my car, drove two blocks, I pulled over our constable,
go to DUI went to jail and I so I
was so embarrassed. I never had that happen before. So
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I sat in there like two or three days, and
finally I called the Chief petty officer because I was
going in the coast guard, and I said, I told
him what trouble got. He goes, well, we don't need
to be talking to you anymore. We don't use characters
like you. And I ended up sitting in there like
five days before I called my mom and dad asked
them to get me out of jail.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Now, Mark, you're telling me you got a d w
I and you had only one drink.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
That's it.
Speaker 14 (22:12):
But I'd driven from Amarillo all the way into Houston,
you know that. You know, I was pretty spent. Plus
I'd driven the day before from Estes to Amarello, so
I was I'd been driving a couple of days, you know,
for long days, and I was spent already when I
got into Conro and then when I went to the
guy's house, I was spent then. And then he gave
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me a I remember, I had a Scotch and soda,
and uh it was probably a pretty healthy one.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And uh, well, scotch and soda that's not one drink.
If the glass is big enough and you got a
sufficient amount of scotch in there, that's multiple drinks. That
can be four drinks and one five drinks in one.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
It could have been.
Speaker 14 (22:54):
But I just remember I just had one glass and
one drink and I was done. That was it.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Just for the record, I don't think you had one drink.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It might have come in one receptacle, but that is
not one drink.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Tim, You're up.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Let me miss you.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Tim.
Speaker 15 (23:20):
Oh, hey, hey, Michael. Yeah, okay. I get a call
back in nineteen ninety four at my house from some
collection agency in San Diego saying I had four warrants
for my wrist. I needed to pay some amount of money.
I laughed at him and I said, no, you're wrong,
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and I hung up on him. They called right back
and they said, this is not a joke. You have
four traffic wants out of the city Houston. You need
to go pay those or they're going to come take
you to jail. And I said, well, here's my address,
Come take me to jail. So I hang up on
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him again. They called back and they said, you're not
taking this very seriously. And I said, well, I don't
have four ones out of HPD, so yeah, it's not serious.
I hung up on him, and then I called them
constable that patrolled our neighborhood in Precinct four, and I
knew him real well. And I called him. I said, hey,
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come by the house. So he came by the house
and I said, I got three calls, said, I got
these warrants. Run my license. So he ran my license
and he's using my phone at my house right, and
he goes, uh huh. He called HPD and they're like.
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He's like, I'm not taking him into custody. I'm standing
in his living room. He asked me to call you,
and I know him. There's obviously some mistake.
Speaker 14 (24:54):
So fast forward.
Speaker 15 (24:55):
He says, I'm not taking him into custody. It's into
my shift. He'll come down take care of this. So
I go down there, I set a court date. I
go back, and they did all this in like two days. Right,
I'm sitting in court and they go through the whole docket.
There's just me, my wife, and an officer sitting there.
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Officer turns around, looks at me and goes, what's your name?
And I told him my name and he goes, you're
not the guy I pulled over, And I said, well,
I tried to tell everybody that, but nobody seemed to listen.
So we go up in front of the judge and
they read the name off and there's a guy. He
lives in the Bashtrop area. We had the exact same
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first and last name, different middle and the same date
of birth, both born in Texas. So I ended up
getting warrants because of a clerical error out of the
city of Houston, different middle name, same guy. So let
me fast forward, real quick. I ended up becoming a
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police officer, and I'm in a training class and there's
a sergeant from the Bashtrop area. Now, you know, you
stand up and introduce yourself and all that. And I
introduced myself and he turns around. He goes, man, there's
another guy with your name with a middle initial starts
with B. He goes, he's a total turd. I've arrested
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him like five times. And I said, well, yeah, well,
and I told him the story. So this guy ends
up on my credit report two different times. It's just
been a mess. Wow, been a mess.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
That's no fun, Mike.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Why'd you end up in jail?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Murder in the first degree one year ago, Derk County,
San Antonio, one hundred thousand dollars bond five to twenty
years eighty two days later they said, you're how we
were kidding? Can go home now? And we're still in
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the middle of that story. Because then I did get
an attorney in June, he disappeared on me, and there's
three thousand. I don't want anybody to go through the
hell I went through for the sady two days. Bear
County Jail was built for a little over three thousand.
They're housing five thousand. They're not meeting minimum state or
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federal requirements on meals, and it's just simply because of
lousy detective work by San Antonio Police Department.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Isn't wrong on the jail stuff. That's interesting, But I
gotta hear how you get booked on first degree murder
if in fact you didn't do it? Why do the
best calls always end up at the end of the segment?
Hold on with me. I got to hear this bit.
He's very calm about it.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Worst degree murder in jail for eighty two days. They
told me we were just kidding. Claim I crushed a
man's cull. What's the brains ooze out? Like I was
busting is it?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And then I laughed while I was doing it. What
they claim
Mark, what'd you get arrested for?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
My wife did. She had a speeding ticket thirty five
years ago, and she went into the driver's to get
myse get my son his driver's license. He was sixteen
years old, and when he gave when she gave them
her license, they arrested her for not paying a traffic
ticket in Sierra Blanca in New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Dang, that's harsh.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And then what.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, I mean, as she called me and said, hey,
you need to come bail me out of jail because
I got arrested, and I thought she was joking. So
the actually the state trooper had to get on the
phone and convince me that he had actually arrested her
at the driver's test station.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And so what came of that?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Nothing? I ended up had just having to bail her
out and then come back and pay the pay the
fine from Sierra Blanca.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Kind of feels like we could have just paid the
fine and a penalty on top of it and avoided
all the criminal repercussions. You know, when you make everybody
into a criminal, then people are less willing to punish
real crime. It was a story somebody email me. You
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see if I can find it. Yeah, uh no, that's
not it. I must have deleted it. But the guy
was saying that he'd had too much to drink, so
he got in the back seat of his car and
went sleep, and the cop pulled up and he's parked
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in the parking lot and told him to get out
of the car. He didn't want to, but the cop insisted,
and then he got him for public intox which he
was inside the car. He wasn't. Look. Cops are human
like everybody else, and some of them make mistakes. And
the ones who make mistakes are more likely to make
mistakes than the others because they're guys that shouldn't have
a badge in the first place. And we've all seen
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that person. They're out of control, power, kick, bad marriage,
unhappy life. Everybody knows about that kind of guy, and
departments and their peers have to be careful to deal
with that kind of guy. Every cop is not right
every time, and if you don't deal with a guy
like that, you reduce confidence and support in law enforcement.
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And our system relies on public support law enforcement, and
that's how Rodney Ellis is allowed to thrive. With these
judges letting everybody lose is if you unfairly enforce the law,
then you create an environment where there is no support
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and respect for the law, and that's when your system collapses.
Whitney and Birmingham writes, my sweet husband was arrested for
DWI in college thirty years ago. No explanation really needed.
He had to call his head deacon at a small
town Baptist church, his dad to Bailey Mount.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
His dad was the head deacon in small town Bapisters.
Daddy made him spend the night in jail to send
a clear message. All that said, my husband had to
get a job to pay his attorney's fees, which is
where he and I met. We'll celebrate twenty years of
marriage in three weeks with three beautiful kids, and I'm
proud to say he has an incredibly successful medical medical
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career as a pulmonologist. Funny how that fateful jail stint
led us to this wonderful life. Thanks and Gigam Whitney
in Birmingham. There's what No the in sentenced him to life, Jim,
But that's not very nice, Czar. Many years ago, I
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had got me a speeding ticket. Oh, this is from
Kenny Allen. That doesn't surprise me. I'm surprised Kenny Alla
hadn't been to prison. Many years ago, I had me
a speeding ticket in some suburb of Dallas Farmer's branch.
I think it was I don't remember why the hell
I was in that part of town, but anyhow, I
get a minor speeding ticket.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I had no intention of ever.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Going back to Farmer's branch, so I paid it by
mail and never thought anything about it.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Fast forward a year or so. I go to get
my driver's license renewed, and.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
The lady behind the counter says she cannot renew my
license because I have an unpaid ticket in Farmer's branch.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I tell her I paid the ticket.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
She says, yes, it's showing paid in Farmer's branch, but
it's not showing up in the OMNI system. So you're
telling me you can't renew my license because someone in
your department has failed to do their job.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I was hot. Next thing I know, she asked, am
I protesting?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I said, you're damn right, I am, bam license suspended.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I changed my mind. I'm not protesting anymore. I thought
I was protesting. I'm not protestings made with the goodness
of real Jello.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Puddinges, a one one year old New Jersey woman who
still works six days a week in her jewelry shop
alongside her daughter and granddaughter, says, if I retire, I
would die. Story from ABC seven in New York City.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Every week you can find Anne Angeleetti on the move,
buzzing around the Diamond District. Okay, she's still bargaining.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Make it a man of price.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Stangimin, I love you you all dest and she's always
looking out for her customers naked straight.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
And there is no stranger to hard work.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
As a child, she left school to help out at
her family grocery store in Brooklyn. Her dad sold ice
door to door in a horse drawn cart. This was
before refrigeration was even invented.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Don't forget out No.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
One hundred, one hundred and one to be exact, But
who's counting. This is a lady who was eighty twenty
years ago and continues to run her own business, Curiosity
Jewelry and Creskill with her daughter and granddaughter.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
If I retire, I would die, so I cannot stay home.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
Are on the moon.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
She hasn't stayed home since her husband went off to
fight World War Two and rolled up her sleeves and
went to work at the navy yard, then as a waitress.
But she always had a passion for her fashion.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
How many days a week do you come to work?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Six?
Speaker 7 (06:44):
My store is open five days, huh, and Monday I
go into the city.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
So we asked the secret to her success. Rule number
one self care.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
MT's to get out. You must shower, you must eat,
you must take care.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Of itself, and don't forget to find your happiness.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
If you don't like what you're doing, then change.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
The centenarian says, always focus on building relationships first.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
See I don't care if my customers don't buy. They
come in, we have coffee.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
And clearly her business associates enjoy her too, honest inspecial
for me and myself. That love for what she does
keeps her going one foot in front of the other.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
Make the most of that day.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
She's one tough cookie.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
I'm happy working every day.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
How would you get arrested for?
Speaker 9 (07:55):
Hey, I got rested fifty years ago in little town
of Seymour, Texas for being an escaped convict from Florida.
Mistaken identity. Yeah, I was a student at Tech. I
was on my way to Dallas do research on my
thesis and I got stopped for speedy. They felled me
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in the holding fell They go through my vehicle and
they determined that I'm a tech student and a military dependent,
so they finally let me go. Now the real irony
is that spring I'm in Austin, Texas, and I'm telling
the story to someone and the person standing next to
him is turns out to be a law enforcement officer
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from Florida, and he says, he opens up and says,
you meet the description of that person. They let me go.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Wow, that's that's a story.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
William Wright Czar, my old boss, when we were copier technicians,
went to fix the copier at the League City Police Department.
The dispatch girl let him fix the copier and then
ran his license. He had an old ticket and she
called a beat cop in to arrest him. I refused
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to even go in the door after that, as I
was on parole. Shannon, what'd you get arrested?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
For?
Speaker 10 (09:25):
Me and my friend? We were about twelve years old
and there was a grain factory in our town and
we climbed up to the top of the grain factory.
And broke the lock on the door and proceeded to
swing and fought down into the grain and give me
like a grain silo.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yes, And so you fell into the grain and then
how did you get out?
Speaker 10 (09:49):
There was ladders you climbed back up to the top.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
That sounded like me cool?
Speaker 10 (09:55):
It was cool if we did.
Speaker 11 (09:56):
We're the ones.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
How'd y'all get caught?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (10:01):
A police officer came up and came up there and
loved just about six or seven of us in a car,
took some police station, called all her parents. My dad said,
I'll be there to pick you up before church starts.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So he lets you stay the night.
Speaker 10 (10:16):
No, just today?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oh okay, all.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Right, that's an interesting story, Skeeter. How'd you get arrested?
Speaker 12 (10:25):
So I'm twenty one years old. We're in Humble, Texas
where we live at it and there's a nightclub called
Stetson's and we you know, we stayed that night, me
and my buddy until lights came on. He ended up
finding a girl to go home with and I didn't.
I was we had work in the morning. So you know,
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lights came on, everyone runs to the bathroom and you
know it's a long line. I'm like, I can make it.
So I go out to my truck and and I
had to my house, which is about five miles away
from the nightclub, and decide I can't make it.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I got to pull over.
Speaker 12 (11:04):
I gotta go to the bathroom. I gotta do something.
And so I pull over in the Humble County Library
parking lot and I pull over in a you know,
a corner corner of the parking lot, and I open
my door and I, you know, go to pee, and
you know, outside my door. Well before I finish, I
hear a voice from behind me say, hey, you know,
we need to have a conversation when you get done. So,
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you know, I turn around, and of course it's a cop.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Ouch sip the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Simple man, the more you read about this budget bill,
keep the government shut down. Don't ever open it again.
Three point nine million for LGBTQ plus democracy grants in
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the Balkans, thirteen point four million for civic engagements in Zimbabwe,
two point nine million for desert locust relocation in Africa.
Cut every dollar that's not being spent in this country.
Let's do that the first year and the next year
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will cut all the waste within this country. It's ridiculous,
it's absurd, it's it's it's got to stop. We've tolerated it.
They all know it. We all know it. Everyone knows it.
Why are we sending money to relocate locusts in Africa?
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Your money? Every paycheck, you don't see what you were paid.
You see what's left of it. Because the government gets
theirs first, and they take it and then they just
throw it to the wind. Think about that.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
It's infuriating.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
They're not honorable, they're low lives. This scum that is
your money. Imagine sitting idly by and watching this happen. Jordan,
why'd you go to jail?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
I went to my wife's ten year Smithville High School
reunion and she asked me if I had helped pick
up that stuck tiger statue next door, which I didn't
know was the city hall. And I thought it would
be a pretty good idea at that point in the night,
so we loaded it up in the back of our
explore well down at the seven eleven. The officers arrived.
I'm in the passenger seat and I get the knock
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on the window and say, did you steal that Tiger,
and we spent Father's Day weekend in jail, got Frans
pointed over to county and then turns out later the
arresting officer and then having some issues with the department,
and she's now spending time in jail, and I got
a good story out of it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Wow, what were her issues with the department?
Speaker 8 (14:17):
She was angling for? You know, maybe not getting as
good of treatment because she was a lady. And I
think there were some issues as well with some people
in her family that she might have been taking some
money from that she wasn't supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh wow, how did you know all this?
Speaker 8 (14:33):
Well? After she posted and made fun of us with
the statue after the arrest. Now, I think part of
the reason we didn't get out so quickly was I
didn't realize the wast nest inside the statue when we
lifted it up and put it in the car. The
officers who unloaded it from my vehicle did. That may
be why it took a little bit at a time.
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But yeah, there was a story down the road about
a year later, after we've been checking in and doing
all the things we're supposed to and no, it's cleared.
It never happened.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
How big was the statue?
Speaker 8 (15:07):
I would say, you know, it didn't feel like probably
two hundred pounds at the time, but just the same
as the Huddo hippos are all over the place, the
Smithfield Tigers are all over the place with the statues.
And it took two of us to put it in
the car.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But well, one of you was a girl.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
Though, no, no, no, my wife did not do it.
We had we actually, her best girlfriend's husband helped me
lift it, and I got to know them really well
over the next eighteen hours. But you did.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Did y'all have to put the back seat down?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Or how tall was it?
Speaker 8 (15:40):
I'd say it was probably three feet tall, probably three
feet probably about three feet long.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Was it on a pedestal or anything?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Was it on the ground?
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Yes, a flat platform on the ground. But I didn't
realize this bars in the middle of downtown Smithville, which
you know, I didn't know the surroundings very well. I
didn't know what was the city hall's statue.
Speaker 13 (16:02):
You got an action like that, yeah, yeah, well, and
at any point the bartender who called it in, who
was sitting outside when the smoke break, could have said, guys,
put that down, and that probably would have been enough
to stop us.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
But now we got a better story.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
How much would you guess you had to dream?
Speaker 8 (16:22):
Well, they didn't have a DJ for the night, and
I'm kind of known for having a pretty decent playlist,
so I got I got to dream free and I
did not drive, but uh, I could still pick up
a tiger.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
M made sense at the time.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
How old were you?
Speaker 8 (16:39):
Let's see, this was uh seven years ago, so I
think I was twenty seven. Little baby girl on the way,
I'm a plumbering college station. I called you about the
Chrispykreeing Donuts having the best last batch a couple of
months back.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Oh yes, yes, yes they burned.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Down, Yes they did. Now I'm a plumber up here
in college station. Met my wife at a bar that
I used to run and own here and we had
a great time doing that. But uh no, we had
a baby girl at about two years old in one
that was just months old, staying in her parents' house
in Smithville while we went to this reunion, and I
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don't enjoy driving back through there.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
So how did that go?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Where your wife had to tell her parents who were
keeping your granddaughter, are their granddaughter? That their son in
laws in jail.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Oh no, no, but what worse than that? She was
in the cell too down for me. I called from
the back of the squad car. I was able to
get my phone out. I called my mother in law,
I called my mom, and I called my boss and
uh I made I mean, I made three phone calls
and it wasn't that big of an issue. I guess
nobody knew I did, and they took it after that.
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But I just needed to make sure the kids knew
where we were, and parents knew where we were and
didn't know how long we'd be in there, being Father's
Day weekend, so I need to make sure work knew
where I was.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Wow, that's a story.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Yeah it is, and that's all it is. Now, there's
it never happened.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You have your own plumbing shopper, you work for somebody else.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
No, I work for JBG Plumbing. I've been at it
ten years and uh we do commercial and residential. But
h I love it. I didn't come from this background
I did. I love the bar and restaurant industry I
got to have. I got to have Ray Wiley Hubbard
and Walt Wilkins and Gary p and just wonderful time
doing that stuff. But the long nights and having a family,
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it it added up, and so.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You became yes, sir, you don't chew your nails, do you?
Speaker 8 (18:41):
No? I do not.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
You know, it all needs to roll downhill, it does.
You know my friend Michael Robinson.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
I've got a shop next door to him.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Oh you do.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
We're on Highway thirty next to him. Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Do you have anything bad to say about him?
Speaker 8 (18:55):
I don't know him personally, but I drop by his
sign every day.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
All right, Well check and see if you can find
anything dirty on him. Let me know, I will wade.
Why did you go to jail?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Go here to sterilize an animal? Back around two thousand
and one, me and my wife got a dog from
the pound and we decided, you know, we had it
for a few days. We didn't know it had parbo
and had damn well died up underneath the porch. Years
go by years. I'm talking probably eight nine years from driving.
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I didn't put on my tournament signal and cop comes
up behind me, pulls me on over, give him all
my stuff, and he goes, well, you got a warrant
for your arrest. I was like, what, I don't have
any warrants and he goes, yes, sir, you got a
city warrant. Asked what it was about. He said, I
don't know until we get back to the jail.
Speaker 8 (19:50):
I was like, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So I'm sitting there in the holding cell and I
see him starting laughing, and I'm like, why are you laughing?
He says, what you're in here for? I was like,
what is it? Well, he said, well, did you get
the doll from the pound and not cut off its balls?
I was like, yeah, yeah, long time ago.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
I did enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Margaret writes, I got a spitting ticket outside of the grange.
I just forgot to pay it. A year later, I
got stopped in the same area by the same deputy.
He was so proud of himself, remembering my car, a
little red BMW, and was thrilled to take me to jail.
So I got my one phone call and I called
a friend in Houston come bail me out. She called
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my brother to do it, and he did, letting me
know I'd taken him away from an Oilers playoff game
on TV. After I'd been in the cell for a bit,
they put another woman in with me. She was in
for stabbing her boyfriend. Obviously, the deputy wanted to make
sure I learned my lesson. That might have been what
he wanted to do. I give him benefit of the doubt. Mark,
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what'd you get arrested for?
Speaker 14 (20:58):
Yes, sir, I got a I said for DUI drove
in from Hester's Park, Colorado, the conro and a buddy
of mine owed me some money for an airplane over
in h Cyprus. So he said, come on over, I'll
pay you money because I came into town to sell
all my goods so I could go into the military.
And so I went over his house and he sat down.
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He paid me the money he owed me. He goes, oh,
just sound. I was watch the football game for a
little while, and he said, hey, we just have a
cocktail with me and whatever. So I had one drink
with him, got watched a little bit of football, got
in my car, drove two blocks, I pulled over our constable,
go to DUI went to jail and I so I
was so embarrassed. I never had that happen before. So
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I sat in there like two or three days, and
finally I called the Chief petty officer because I was
going in the coast guard, and I said, I told
him what trouble got. He goes, well, we don't need
to be talking to you anymore. We don't use characters
like you. And I ended up sitting in there like
five days before I called my mom and dad asked
them to get me out of jail.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Now, Mark, you're telling me you got a d w
I and you had only one drink.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
That's it.
Speaker 14 (22:12):
But I'd driven from Amarillo all the way into Houston,
you know that. You know, I was pretty spent. Plus
I'd driven the day before from Estes to Amarello, so
I was I'd been driving a couple of days, you know,
for long days, and I was spent already when I
got into Conro and then when I went to the
guy's house, I was spent then. And then he gave
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me a I remember, I had a Scotch and soda,
and uh it was probably a pretty healthy one.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And uh, well, scotch and soda that's not one drink.
If the glass is big enough and you got a
sufficient amount of scotch in there, that's multiple drinks. That
can be four drinks and one five drinks in one.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
It could have been.
Speaker 14 (22:54):
But I just remember I just had one glass and
one drink and I was done. That was it.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Just for the record, I don't think you had one drink.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It might have come in one receptacle, but that is
not one drink.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Tim, You're up.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Let me miss you.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Tim.
Speaker 15 (23:20):
Oh, hey, hey, Michael. Yeah, okay. I get a call
back in nineteen ninety four at my house from some
collection agency in San Diego saying I had four warrants
for my wrist. I needed to pay some amount of money.
I laughed at him and I said, no, you're wrong,
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and I hung up on him. They called right back
and they said, this is not a joke. You have
four traffic wants out of the city Houston. You need
to go pay those or they're going to come take
you to jail. And I said, well, here's my address,
Come take me to jail. So I hang up on
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him again. They called back and they said, you're not
taking this very seriously. And I said, well, I don't
have four ones out of HPD, so yeah, it's not serious.
I hung up on him, and then I called them
constable that patrolled our neighborhood in Precinct four, and I
knew him real well. And I called him. I said, hey,
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come by the house. So he came by the house
and I said, I got three calls, said, I got
these warrants. Run my license. So he ran my license
and he's using my phone at my house right, and
he goes, uh huh. He called HPD and they're like.
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He's like, I'm not taking him into custody. I'm standing
in his living room. He asked me to call you,
and I know him. There's obviously some mistake.
Speaker 14 (24:54):
So fast forward.
Speaker 15 (24:55):
He says, I'm not taking him into custody. It's into
my shift. He'll come down take care of this. So
I go down there, I set a court date. I
go back, and they did all this in like two days. Right,
I'm sitting in court and they go through the whole docket.
There's just me, my wife, and an officer sitting there.
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Officer turns around, looks at me and goes, what's your name?
And I told him my name and he goes, you're
not the guy I pulled over, And I said, well,
I tried to tell everybody that, but nobody seemed to listen.
So we go up in front of the judge and
they read the name off and there's a guy. He
lives in the Bashtrop area. We had the exact same
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first and last name, different middle and the same date
of birth, both born in Texas. So I ended up
getting warrants because of a clerical error out of the
city of Houston, different middle name, same guy. So let
me fast forward, real quick. I ended up becoming a
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police officer, and I'm in a training class and there's
a sergeant from the Bashtrop area. Now, you know, you
stand up and introduce yourself and all that. And I
introduced myself and he turns around. He goes, man, there's
another guy with your name with a middle initial starts
with B. He goes, he's a total turd. I've arrested
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him like five times. And I said, well, yeah, well,
and I told him the story. So this guy ends
up on my credit report two different times. It's just
been a mess. Wow, been a mess.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
That's no fun, Mike.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Why'd you end up in jail?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Murder in the first degree one year ago, Derk County,
San Antonio, one hundred thousand dollars bond five to twenty
years eighty two days later they said, you're how we
were kidding? Can go home now? And we're still in
(27:04):
the middle of that story. Because then I did get
an attorney in June, he disappeared on me, and there's
three thousand. I don't want anybody to go through the
hell I went through for the sady two days. Bear
County Jail was built for a little over three thousand.
They're housing five thousand. They're not meeting minimum state or
(27:26):
federal requirements on meals, and it's just simply because of
lousy detective work by San Antonio Police Department.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Isn't wrong on the jail stuff. That's interesting, But I
gotta hear how you get booked on first degree murder
if in fact you didn't do it? Why do the
best calls always end up at the end of the segment?
Hold on with me. I got to hear this bit.
He's very calm about it.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Worst degree murder in jail for eighty two days. They
told me we were just kidding. Claim I crushed a
man's cull. What's the brains ooze out? Like I was
busting is it?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And then I laughed while I was doing it. What
they claim
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