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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load on.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Verie show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I am not in danger, Skuyler. I am the danger.
A guy opens his store and gets shot and you
think that of me, No, I am the one who knocks.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
This multi agency operation led by DEA with our local, state, tribal,
and federal partners, targeted one of the largest and most
dangerous drug trafficking and foreign terrorist organizations in our country.
The DEA seesed eleven point five kilos of fintanyl, including
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an astounding approximately three million fintanyl pills, the largest seizure
in our name's history.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm sorry when so had to lose. It's the major
of the businesses.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
The head of this organization, Sinaloa organization here in the
country illegally. Six of these guys and women here in
the country illegally. His name is Alberto Salazar Amaya. He
is the leader and he was living in Salem, Oregon.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
With him.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
They got millions of dollars cash cars, but the drugs
were in Albuquerque, Phoenix, and Utah. That's how insulated these
drug dealer cartel leaders make themselves one you can't refuse.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It's the six group.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
We thought about that case in the moment. The first
one of many emails I received one day a few
days ago was from Kevin Bainbridge. I know Kevin because well,
I know Kevin in multiple ways. I don't know that
we've met well. I guess we would have had to
at some point. But his brother is a big shot
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at the Houston Police Department, very well respected, and he
retired from their career there. I bet he did thirty
years and now he's the head of the Spring Branch
Independent School District. And I made the statement that Bainbridge
being over the SBISD is going to be a good thing.
They're going to change their tone. And it wasn't a
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week into him being there that some turd stole a car,
came to the school caused a problem. I think he
just beat his mom to death and literally and comes
to the school and one of their officers put him down.
So yeah, you could say things had changed. Kevin. His
brother used to work at Downing Street and I was
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a frequenter of Downing Street back in two thousand and
three four five ERA. So I received an email about
how he got into the restaurant business and that he
had worked at Clementines for fourteen years as a busboy
and a dishwasher. When he turned sixteen, he went to
work at Papado's Willowbrook, about a quarter mile away, and
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he says, thirty years later, I'm retired from the restaurant industry.
I think he's in the roofing business now. I've worked
at Clementines, Papado, Freebirds, Downing Street Pub, Cisco, Houston, owned
my own restaurant for four years till COVID All because
of a family restaurant that gave me a job as
a dishwasher and a busboy. When you leave a place
where you've been a dishwasher and a busboy for years, right,
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and you have good things to say about them, that
tells you a lot about what kind of place they are.
So I read. Clementine's Restaurant has been a beloved family
owned establishment in northwest Houston since nineteen eighty one. Owned
and operated by Elias and Carolyn Deeck, the restaurant became
a local favorite known for its welcoming atmosphere, live music,
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and hearty Southern and American cuisine. Over the past forty
four years, Clementines has served generations of Houstonians. Ramon, do
you say Clementine or do you say Clementine? I do too, Clementine,
And along the way, it's customers to truly become family.
But it appears to be the case that Clementines is
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closing this Friday. The owner, Elias Deek, is our guest.
Welcome to the program, Elast.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I'm a frequent listener to your show. Thank you for
calling us today.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Elias, you can't be Greek.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well I can tell you a little bit about Clementinees.
I put myself through college working in different restaurants and
me and my wife call then she's been side to
side with me, and we decided to start. We took
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to Clementine over and Clementine has been in our neighborhood
since nineteen seventy seven. Bob and Shirley learn they owned
that place. And when we went there having a meeting
business meeting, I had my daytime job that time. My
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wife she got in love with that because she has
she had previous experience with restaurant business. And her mom
was Danish and her dad Irish American from Buffalo, New York.
And she said, Elias, this is so cute. Let us
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take take it over. And that's what the day we
we decided to buy it and take it over. Uh,
you know so, And since then our journey started. My
boy was three months old when we took it over.
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His name is Jacob and uh and Christina was born
before and then Amanda she was born after that. And
we have a lot of people visited Clementine. We we
have so many young generations worked over there over the years.
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And pause, Paud is just very emotional right now for me, Michael.
You know so, this is just a little part of
all story.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, forty four years Elias to run a restaurant, a
lot of changes in the Willowbrook area over those years,
a family run restaurant, to keep your marriage together, to
raise your children while running a restaurant that is really
really rare and special. I can imagine it's emotional because
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you've put the vast majority of your life, and not
only in number of years, but in hours per day
you have to do that in order to operate a
business like that is nothing short of amazing. Hold with
me for just one moment. The restaurant is clement It
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is in the Willowbrook area off Cypress Creek, Parkway. You
can find it online. And I guess they're opened through
this Friday, and then they're having a little gathering that
is open to the public six o'clock from there. Anyway,
if you've been there, send me an email during the
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break and I'll read them. Race driver Michael Berry Funny,
that's Ramon Duck, King of Dings, suggested for general audiences.
Nineteen sixty and Champions Drive.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I was corrected, but I will tell you that on
the on the website it says sixty four to forty
eight Cypress Creek Parkway, but it does look like it's
nineteen sixty and Champions Drive.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Clementines, after forty four years of this owner and almost
fifty years in business, Clementines is closing on Friday in
the Willowbrook area. Elias Deeck, the owner, is our guest. Elias.
Was there a moment where you decided this is time?
Was was the lease up? Or was there was there
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some landmark? Was there some date that you said, all right,
when this kid graduates, or when this happens or whatever else,
this will be when we close.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Uh? Yes, Michael, it's uh, it's been coming actually way back.
But the love of my staffing, my community, my customers
who will become our dear friends, and they become our family.
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And it's actually been going before the COVID and it's
been it's been such a blessing in the grace of
God that I used to go three steps forward and
two steps backward because I'm not young anymore. But the love,
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the love of this business kept me because right now,
my third generation, my grandkids are working. I just want
to mention we're not closing. I'm retiring. Me and my wife.
We still, thank God, we still have a great business.
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We're still doing good. And I feel the economy in
general is going to be so strong starting in August,
and you know, I have no doubt about that. If
I can survive, a lot of small business can survive
by quality and quality, good service. And all I was
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every time I'm there, I always hugged the ladies and
greet everyone. And it's been very emotional for me to say,
to pull the trigger, to be honest with you, it's
been very emotional.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I've been hearing from employees, customers, and they all talk
about you like family. One fellow named Steve Kasmaya, writes
Elias Deke and Clementines gave a head start to my
American dream. In nineteen ninety nine, I was an eighteen
year old immigrant going through the challenges of my first
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year in the United States. They gave me a shot.
They hired me as a busboy. My conversational English improved.
They made me a waiter. I spent three years with them.
I was able to save up the money to go
through the process legally to become a United States citizen,
and I'm very proud of that fact. And they helped
make that dream come true. It's a great story.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Thank you, thank you. Yes, we did help a lot
of kids. According to our records, thousands of kids helped.
We used to hire them between sixteen and above. Sometimes
they used to lie about their age. I have a
young man drove from Dallas two days ago. He was
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one of my cooks. He came to say goodbye. He's
a big shot right now with the car industry, with
the big corporations. And we have thousands of people. I
started way back in the early eighties and Flying School District,
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they call it home economics, and they used to send
me some kids and we have rules to go through.
And I give him a kind of program and twenty
hours program. I paid them the minimum wage and they
enjoyed it, and they have to take a test and
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all of this. So they all came back with their
family and their kids and the kids of now coming
to be our customer. It's been a great home run.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And last, where were you born? Where were you raised?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I was born in Bayreuth, Lebanon, Lebanon, Okay, I thought
you were agreed. Yeah, no, I am my religion. I'm
a Greek Orthodoxy, but I was born in Bayreuth, Lebanon.
I came here to get my education. I attended My
first college was South Texas. During their college downtown Houston,
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it becomes University Houston, and I joined the civil engineering department,
and I put myself through college. Who worked with all
the big boys here? From it goes from I know
all the Mendola, the Pappets and all the others. I
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always learned to stay in business, it takes a lot
of previous experience. I have a chance to go through
that channel of meeting a lot of people, you know.
God bless him. He passed. Vinton Mandola. He was a
good friend of mine. I worked on the first restaurant
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Memphis Downtown. I work at the University Club. That's all.
The processes started when I was going to college, and
then after that I started working for Corporate America, and
I said no more restaurant to my wife. She what
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I open was, I'll just been the all blessing.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now, will you stay in town or will you move out?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
To me? Yes, yes, no, no, no, no, no, I've been.
I've been in the Houston, even though I'm still having
para act. I've been here for fifty four years and
I love excess. I love Houston. I have all my
kids here, as you know, I have three wonderful kids, Christina, Jacob, Amanda,
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i have four grandkids as Hayley, Joseph, Kathon, and baby Elias.
And I'm not gonna go anywhere. I'm gonna stay here
hoping that the legacy will keep going. Maybe somebody. I'm
being kind of interviewing people because there's somebody gonna take
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over again. As I told you, we're retiring, taking over,
taking over Lemon time. That's what That's what.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
My wish because it's a great story. And enjoy your retirement.
Thank you for sharing it with us. Champions. This is
a parent from the Champions community. This is a big
deal out there. Healthcare in America is broken. You know it,
I know it, we all know it. Obamacare made it
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much much, much worse. And we talk about the thing
we talk about the most is the insurance and what
the insurance covers and doesn't. Well, that's a big part
of it. But what I wonder how many people know
how miserable the doctors are through Little League Baseball? And
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I know and I know a man named Will Davis
who's a doctor, and several years ago he began he
transitioned out of a group practice into a concierge program.
And so every time the dads of various kids who
all know each other, got together, I will ask people
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what they're doing, and then I, as you can imagine,
start drilling down and asking questions. And I was reading
more and more about this concierge care. And we think
of it from the perspective of the patient. The money
spent primarily is what most people are thinking about, But
nobody talks about the doctors. When I was growing up,
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doctor Raleigh Allen delivered me and he transitioned his practice
as folks used to do family practice general practice to
Marty Rutledge and doctor Rutli's from the time I was
when doctor Allen retired and moved to clear Lake. Doctor
Rutli's was the doctor in Orange that a lot of
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folks had. It wasn't the only doctor in town, but
and he seemed to enjoy what he was doing. And
we would go in and he'd close the door and
we'd talk, and we'd talk about my health and what
I was eating, and how I was sleeping, and was
I nervous, and was I anxious? And was I did
I have any worries? You know, suicide was talked about
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a lot back then, and he knew me pretty well
that there was no risk for me. But those were
the kind of things your doctor would talk to you
about before the counseling and all that. A doctor was
somebody who genuinely cared about you. They did. They were
one part minister, one part therapist, one part scientist. And
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you loved them. And you stuck with that doctor. And
you didn't wait out in the waiting room for five hours.
And it wasn't a mill, you know, you didn't walk
in there. They see you write your script, move out.
Then you get forty letters. You don't know if the
insurance's company is going to put This is messed up.
This is not rational. So I've got one friend who's
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a doctor who if he performs a procedure, they have
to call and get approval from the insurance company. Well,
they may not answer. Insurance company is no hurry. So
he has a girl who calls their girl. And then
an insurance company tells you whether they'll cover it or not.
And sometimes they say yes, you perform it and they
don't cover it. Well, the patient thought that was covered
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by the insurance, and some patients just can't cover that.
So I talk to a lot of doctors and I
asked these questions about how insurance changes their practice. It's
very frustrating because there are things that insurance won't pay for.
Now I've got my own opinion. You're not going to
like to hear this, and that is people will go
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out and buy a new car every three months, but
god forbid, I had to pay an extra two hundred
dollars to get a replacement heart when I've got ninety
nine percent blockage. It's amazing to me how cheap people
can be on the important stuff, and how freewheeling. They
can be on things that aren't really that that important.
I mean a new vehicles, new vida. Don't get me wrong.
My point is a lot of people will complain about
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things and the price when in the priority of things,
if you got X number of dollars, I'd allocate more
over here than to the other stuff. But in any case,
so that brings me to the following story. And then
we're going to talk to some conciers doctors about how
they like it. And if you are a person who
is a patient and you have switched to concierge and
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you'd like to share your story, I'd be happy to
hear it. So we brought my dad to Houston after
my mom passed Optember nineteen. Speaking of which, by the way,
fellas reminder Mother's Day, this Sunday, this Sunday, we're at Wednesday.
You better call Connie Stagner to Corey Diamonds. You better
make your reservations with Gringos or a Federal American grill
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or Big City Wings for this Friday night or Saturday
night or Sunday brunch. You better start getting the kids reminded. Hey,
you know, make a card for Mom. Anyway, So when
my mom passed, we started getting worried. He has a
full time caretaker and she's like family. When my brother died,
I hired her. She came in. Her mother and my
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mother were friends. She's my age, Her brother and I
played ball against each other. A great family, and so
it was like it was like my own sister was
there taking care of my parents. My dad died, it
was just her and him, and she can handle it, right.
He's got a lot of medical needs, but she can
handle it. She was doing a great job. But then
she had to go home. She's married, she's she's got
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dogs to feed, she's got things to do. So we
had to get caretakers. And then you're you know, it's
a cycle of people, and they don't. So we moved
him to Houston. We could be there and then all
the grandkids can see him, and my siblings can see him,
and my wife goes by every day, and I go
by almost every day, five days out of seven. And
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it is a delight to have him here. But the
unfortunate thing is his medical care. Doctor Rutledge is still
his doctor. If you can believe that it's been my
doctor's I was a little kid. So we needed to
get an interocrinologist because diabetes is his biggest issue. So
he's got a pump. And you know when when people
think they know what I'm talking about because they got
a pump or they're his pancs creates no insulin, so
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his numbers will fluctuate from below one hundred to above
three hundred, just like that his blood sugar and either
one of those can be catastrophic. He has been hospital
hospitalized so many times over the years. You I told
you wouldn't believe it. So we need a doctor here,
an indocrinologist who can take care of him. So I
called a couple doctor buddies of mine, and I was
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recommended to a woman named Anew Davis. She's Indian. Surprise,
She's married to a fellow named Jay Davis, and they
have another doctor in there in their practice. I think
it's called river Oaks Doctors or river Oaks something something something. Anyway, No,
it's not fancy Romone. That's who I was referred to.
That's who people like. So my wife gets on the
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phone with her and she is just over the moon,
excited over the moon. She said, great news. I got
him a new endochronologist and a new primary care all
in one. She's wonderful his first appointment is and she
tells us it's a concierge style practice and much better
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for us to deal with. The office visits are not
covered by insurance twenty two hundred dollars annual retainer which
covers all out of office consultations. She will also do
home visits to the old folks Home. She will deal
with and she goes through the various things that he has.
I'm not going to mention those. An office visit is
five hundred dollars an hour, but it's broken into increments
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of five minutes. After the first office visit, we will
not need that many office visits. They will answer the
phone at any time to figure out what to do
if his sugar goes up, or sugar goes down, or
he has any other medical need. They have a few
patients at the old Folks Home already, so she's quite
familiar with it. The office is in River Oaks. I'd
really like to try them. I really liked their approach.
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It'll be easier for us to deal with the concierge
style practice for him. I think he'll like it. A lot,
and so I get home and we start talking. Mind
So I start calling around and talking to doctors about
concierge and all that this particular woman will make home
visits or old folks homes visits. In this case, sometimes
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you can't get mom or dad or yourself out of
the out of the house. Imagine a visit to your house.
How cool is it?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Not all concierge doctors do that. I don't want to
say that. But the doctors that are doing it, We're
gonna talk to Will Davis as a friend of mine.
In a moment, he may we may be gathered together
as dads. He'll step out and take a phone call
or text messages, and he's treating a patient. That's what
people want.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Mincacle Barry's.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I am in a very fortunate situation. I have had
friendships with doctors for every part of my body, and
I mean every part of my body for a very
long time. Partly because I find doctors fascinating, because they're
a strange combination of scientists and therapists and there is
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an applied level to it, and partly because it's nice
to be able to text and say, hey, what should
I do here, Oh, come in. So I've had some
of my doctors on the air over the years, gim
Months my primary, Mohit Kara, my urologists, Stan Dukman my cardiologist,
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and on and on and on. As you age, it's
going to be something. If you're not there yet, or
for your parents, it's going to be something. And until
you have been through the hell of trying to get
an appointment in less than a year, waiting rooms for
hours on end, and God help you if the C
word comes up, because now you're thrown into a whole
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different world. Do you do radiation? Do you do chemo?
When can you get in to see a specialist? Do
you get a second? This is this is not this
is not healthcare. This is not what we once knew.
So the marketplace always finds an answer. It just takes
a minute. And a current answer for many people, not
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just patients, but or but but doctors is concierge's care
where you basically give a chunk of money up front
and you pay separately aside from what the insurance pays,
and you're paying for a value. So there'll be people
who I don't pay nobody. I bet my insurers don't
curR injuries, don't care. I pay insurance. Okay, Well insurance
is not paying the doctor properly, and the doctor doesn't
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want to practice that way. So you know that money
you spent over here, that was dumb. If you spend it,
you're buying access to a doctor on his cell phone.
What's that worth to you? So you can sit and
wait fifteen hours? Penny wise, pound foolish. But other people say,
and look, everybody has a different income level and wealth level,
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but where you are at, for a lot of people,
it makes sense to get out of the traditional insurance
game and have a concierge doctor. So one of them
that I've been paestoring questions like this for a long
time is doctor Will Davis. And the good thing for
me with him is I watched him transition from part
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of a practice to being concierge, from the asking questions about,
you know, working through how this would work financially, professionally,
time wise, patient wise, and all that. He doesn't just
take all comers. Now you've got this group of people,
you're like a pastor. This is your flock. These are
your people that you take care of. You develop a relationship,
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so when they call, you don't need them to fill
out fifteen documents. You know their story, you know their
spouse and their whole family. I think it's pretty cool.
It feels a lot more like what I grew up with,
which I think was a pretty good system. Doctor will Davis,
Welcome to the program. Thank you, Michael. I appreciate you
having me on this morning. Don't get all formal on
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me now. We've smoked too many cigars together, or is
that probably ruins your credibility. If people knew that you
have a better bourbon collection than I do, and you
may smoke more cigars than I do, I'm not sure
they still trust you, but I do. I think I
see how people respect you as their doctor. Let's talk,
first of all, from the doctor's perspective about why this
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made sense for you to go to concierge.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Well, so, I had been in practice for about twenty
years at the time, or twenty one years, and they had,
actually the company that I partnered up with, called MDVIP,
had been looking out asking me to join their group
of conciers doctors for about five years.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And I was at the point where I was seeing.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Thirty five patients to day, I was getting burntout. You know,
I tried really hard to provide concierge level care to
patients doing that load, which you know, really affected me
and my family life. And then this opportunity came along
and I was like, you know, I think it's time
to make a change. And for me, it has been
a absolute blessing.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I mean, I think I've gotten.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
A little bit of quality of life back.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I'm a much better doctor than ever was before because
I know my patient's better. I'm able to discuss things
with them in a longer fashion. They have much greater
access to me, and like you said just a minute ago,
I don't have to you know, review a whole chart
just to know who they are. I know who they
are just because of the patients I've been taken care
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So you know, we talked over the years about I
don't know to say it's burnout, but frustration. And you know,
you got into this to help people, to heal people,
to treat people. What about the practice where you were,
the way medicine was being practiced, how has that changed
for you? Why did you make this change in that way?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
So do you mean why did I go switch from
thirty five patients to.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Like ten to twelve a day.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
I mean, I just think it made more sense for
me to go ahead and you know, get some control
back in my life, which I think this has allowed
me to do. Like I said, I can actually enjoy
my life more now outside of work when I'm still
as you said, I mean, we may be at a
dinner or something and I'm taking calls or text from patients,
which is totally fine and I'm happy to do it,
but I don't have to be at the office all
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the time. And you know, it allows me to work
and see instead of you know, see four to ten
patients or twelve patients, and my patients can get in
same day, next day. I mean, my patients, you know,
really enjoy it because they have that access and availability
to me that they.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Never had before.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Well. And I think the great frustration that I hear
from the patient perspective is the idea that the doctor
doesn't have time for you. And it's not because he
doesn't want to. It's because the NBAS took over. I
remember in the early nineties with Hillary Care, and it
was the battle was was it going to be a
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company like a private equity type group buying out these
you know HCA type deals buying out the practice, or
was the government going to take over the practice but
the doctor was no longer going to control the practice.
And that was very clear. Let's talk a little bit
about the way your practice works. So you sent me
the email yesterday that you send to a new patient.
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But in a minute and a half or so, walk
walk us through as a new patient what this looks
like to be your patient.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
So basically, a patient will come into the office, we
do a meet and greet, they go I go ahead
and tell them the amounts, which is, you know, it's
a little over two thousand dollars per year, and they're
able to use HSA or FSA.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
They go ahead and they come in and they do
a pre physical.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Evaluation and then come in and do a physical and
so we go ahead and talk about why it makes
sense for them to go ahead and do this. And
a lot of them are frustrated, like you said, they
can't go ahead and.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
See the doctor when they want to.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
They go ahead and they wait for hours or days,
you know, to be able to be seen where we
can see them in a very quick and timely fashion.
So then they go ahead and have this and they.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Can get their high.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Quality physical and we do what's called an executive physical,
so we go above and beyond what is traditionally done
in most offices to go ahead and try to create
a much better picture of a person's health rather than
just a couple of numbers. And again, my patients are
not just numbers to me.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
They're actually real people.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Where before based on all the old restrictions by the
Medicare Medicare, the traditional insurances, the hospitals where you have
to follow all these rules, and now you can do more.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Hold with me for just a moment. We have another
concierge doctor that we will speak to after doctor Will Davis. Folks,
it's not a show sponsor. I'm not suggesting that that
you that you find a new doctor. I am saying,
don't wait until you're sick to find yourself a doctor.
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Don't wait. Look, you know that your heart's likely to
give out. That's the number one way you're gonna go.
So go see Stan Dukman, or find a cardiologist that's
recommended by your doctor, read their reviews, go see them,
Go get a check up, get your baseline now, These
are the kinds of things you can't wait. It's coming
to you, right, you're marching, you're whistling past the graveyard, folks,
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So might as well ahead of time, get ahead of
this the same way you did with your investments and
everything else. All right, More concierge healthcare talk coming up.
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load on.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Verie show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I am not in danger, Skuyler. I am the danger.
A guy opens his store and gets shot and you
think that of me, No, I am the one who knocks.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
This multi agency operation led by DEA with our local, state, tribal,
and federal partners, targeted one of the largest and most
dangerous drug trafficking and foreign terrorist organizations in our country.
The DEA seesed eleven point five kilos of fintanyl, including
(00:51):
an astounding approximately three million fintanyl pills, the largest seizure
in our name's history.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm sorry when so had to lose. It's the major
of the businesses.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
The head of this organization, Sinaloa organization here in the
country illegally. Six of these guys and women here in
the country illegally. His name is Alberto Salazar Amaya. He
is the leader and he was living in Salem, Oregon.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
With him.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
They got millions of dollars cash cars, but the drugs
were in Albuquerque, Phoenix, and Utah. That's how insulated these
drug dealer cartel leaders make themselves one you can't refuse.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It's the six group.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
We thought about that case in the moment. The first
one of many emails I received one day a few
days ago was from Kevin Bainbridge. I know Kevin because well,
I know Kevin in multiple ways. I don't know that
we've met well. I guess we would have had to
at some point. But his brother is a big shot
(02:25):
at the Houston Police Department, very well respected, and he
retired from their career there. I bet he did thirty
years and now he's the head of the Spring Branch
Independent School District. And I made the statement that Bainbridge
being over the SBISD is going to be a good thing.
They're going to change their tone. And it wasn't a
(02:47):
week into him being there that some turd stole a car,
came to the school caused a problem. I think he
just beat his mom to death and literally and comes
to the school and one of their officers put him down.
So yeah, you could say things had changed. Kevin. His
brother used to work at Downing Street and I was
(03:12):
a frequenter of Downing Street back in two thousand and
three four five ERA. So I received an email about
how he got into the restaurant business and that he
had worked at Clementines for fourteen years as a busboy
and a dishwasher. When he turned sixteen, he went to
work at Papado's Willowbrook, about a quarter mile away, and
(03:34):
he says, thirty years later, I'm retired from the restaurant industry.
I think he's in the roofing business now. I've worked
at Clementines, Papado, Freebirds, Downing Street Pub, Cisco, Houston, owned
my own restaurant for four years till COVID All because
of a family restaurant that gave me a job as
a dishwasher and a busboy. When you leave a place
where you've been a dishwasher and a busboy for years, right,
(04:02):
and you have good things to say about them, that
tells you a lot about what kind of place they are.
So I read. Clementine's Restaurant has been a beloved family
owned establishment in northwest Houston since nineteen eighty one. Owned
and operated by Elias and Carolyn Deeck, the restaurant became
a local favorite known for its welcoming atmosphere, live music,
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and hearty Southern and American cuisine. Over the past forty
four years, Clementines has served generations of Houstonians. Ramon, do
you say Clementine or do you say Clementine? I do too, Clementine,
And along the way, it's customers to truly become family.
But it appears to be the case that Clementines is
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closing this Friday. The owner, Elias Deek, is our guest.
Welcome to the program, Elast.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I'm a frequent listener to your show. Thank you for
calling us today.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Elias, you can't be Greek.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well I can tell you a little bit about Clementinees.
I put myself through college working in different restaurants and
me and my wife call then she's been side to
side with me, and we decided to start. We took
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to Clementine over and Clementine has been in our neighborhood
since nineteen seventy seven. Bob and Shirley learn they owned
that place. And when we went there having a meeting
business meeting, I had my daytime job that time. My
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wife she got in love with that because she has
she had previous experience with restaurant business. And her mom
was Danish and her dad Irish American from Buffalo, New York.
And she said, Elias, this is so cute. Let us
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take take it over. And that's what the day we
we decided to buy it and take it over. Uh,
you know so, And since then our journey started. My
boy was three months old when we took it over.
(06:31):
His name is Jacob and uh and Christina was born
before and then Amanda she was born after that. And
we have a lot of people visited Clementine. We we
have so many young generations worked over there over the years.
(07:01):
And pause, Paud is just very emotional right now for me, Michael.
You know so, this is just a little part of
all story.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, forty four years Elias to run a restaurant, a
lot of changes in the Willowbrook area over those years,
a family run restaurant, to keep your marriage together, to
raise your children while running a restaurant that is really
really rare and special. I can imagine it's emotional because
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you've put the vast majority of your life, and not
only in number of years, but in hours per day
you have to do that in order to operate a
business like that is nothing short of amazing. Hold with
me for just one moment. The restaurant is clement It
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is in the Willowbrook area off Cypress Creek, Parkway. You
can find it online. And I guess they're opened through
this Friday, and then they're having a little gathering that
is open to the public six o'clock from there. Anyway,
if you've been there, send me an email during the
(08:21):
break and I'll read them. Race driver Michael Berry Funny,
that's Ramon Duck, King of Dings, suggested for general audiences.
Nineteen sixty and Champions Drive.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I was corrected, but I will tell you that on
the on the website it says sixty four to forty
eight Cypress Creek Parkway, but it does look like it's
nineteen sixty and Champions Drive.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Clementines, after forty four years of this owner and almost
fifty years in business, Clementines is closing on Friday in
the Willowbrook area. Elias Deeck, the owner, is our guest. Elias.
Was there a moment where you decided this is time?
Was was the lease up? Or was there was there
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some landmark? Was there some date that you said, all right,
when this kid graduates, or when this happens or whatever else,
this will be when we close.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Uh? Yes, Michael, it's uh, it's been coming actually way back.
But the love of my staffing, my community, my customers
who will become our dear friends, and they become our family.
(09:47):
And it's actually been going before the COVID and it's
been it's been such a blessing in the grace of
God that I used to go three steps forward and
two steps backward because I'm not young anymore. But the love,
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the love of this business kept me because right now,
my third generation, my grandkids are working. I just want
to mention we're not closing. I'm retiring. Me and my wife.
We still, thank God, we still have a great business.
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We're still doing good. And I feel the economy in
general is going to be so strong starting in August,
and you know, I have no doubt about that. If
I can survive, a lot of small business can survive
by quality and quality, good service. And all I was
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every time I'm there, I always hugged the ladies and
greet everyone. And it's been very emotional for me to say,
to pull the trigger, to be honest with you, it's
been very emotional.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I've been hearing from employees, customers, and they all talk
about you like family. One fellow named Steve Kasmaya, writes
Elias Deke and Clementines gave a head start to my
American dream. In nineteen ninety nine, I was an eighteen
year old immigrant going through the challenges of my first
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year in the United States. They gave me a shot.
They hired me as a busboy. My conversational English improved.
They made me a waiter. I spent three years with them.
I was able to save up the money to go
through the process legally to become a United States citizen,
and I'm very proud of that fact. And they helped
make that dream come true. It's a great story.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Thank you, thank you. Yes, we did help a lot
of kids. According to our records, thousands of kids helped.
We used to hire them between sixteen and above. Sometimes
they used to lie about their age. I have a
young man drove from Dallas two days ago. He was
(12:24):
one of my cooks. He came to say goodbye. He's
a big shot right now with the car industry, with
the big corporations. And we have thousands of people. I
started way back in the early eighties and Flying School District,
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they call it home economics, and they used to send
me some kids and we have rules to go through.
And I give him a kind of program and twenty
hours program. I paid them the minimum wage and they
enjoyed it, and they have to take a test and
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all of this. So they all came back with their
family and their kids and the kids of now coming
to be our customer. It's been a great home run.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And last, where were you born? Where were you raised?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I was born in Bayreuth, Lebanon, Lebanon, Okay, I thought
you were agreed. Yeah, no, I am my religion. I'm
a Greek Orthodoxy, but I was born in Bayreuth, Lebanon.
I came here to get my education. I attended My
first college was South Texas. During their college downtown Houston,
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it becomes University Houston, and I joined the civil engineering department,
and I put myself through college. Who worked with all
the big boys here? From it goes from I know
all the Mendola, the Pappets and all the others. I
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always learned to stay in business, it takes a lot
of previous experience. I have a chance to go through
that channel of meeting a lot of people, you know.
God bless him. He passed. Vinton Mandola. He was a
good friend of mine. I worked on the first restaurant
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Memphis Downtown. I work at the University Club. That's all.
The processes started when I was going to college, and
then after that I started working for Corporate America, and
I said no more restaurant to my wife. She what
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I open was, I'll just been the all blessing.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Now, will you stay in town or will you move out?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
To me? Yes, yes, no, no, no, no, no, I've been.
I've been in the Houston, even though I'm still having
para act. I've been here for fifty four years and
I love excess. I love Houston. I have all my
kids here, as you know, I have three wonderful kids, Christina, Jacob, Amanda,
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i have four grandkids as Hayley, Joseph, Kathon, and baby Elias.
And I'm not gonna go anywhere. I'm gonna stay here
hoping that the legacy will keep going. Maybe somebody. I'm
being kind of interviewing people because there's somebody gonna take
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over again. As I told you, we're retiring, taking over,
taking over Lemon time. That's what That's what.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
My wish because it's a great story. And enjoy your retirement.
Thank you for sharing it with us. Champions. This is
a parent from the Champions community. This is a big
deal out there. Healthcare in America is broken. You know it,
I know it, we all know it. Obamacare made it
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much much, much worse. And we talk about the thing
we talk about the most is the insurance and what
the insurance covers and doesn't. Well, that's a big part
of it. But what I wonder how many people know
how miserable the doctors are through Little League Baseball? And
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I know and I know a man named Will Davis
who's a doctor, and several years ago he began he
transitioned out of a group practice into a concierge program.
And so every time the dads of various kids who
all know each other, got together, I will ask people
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what they're doing, and then I, as you can imagine,
start drilling down and asking questions. And I was reading
more and more about this concierge care. And we think
of it from the perspective of the patient. The money
spent primarily is what most people are thinking about, But
nobody talks about the doctors. When I was growing up,
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doctor Raleigh Allen delivered me and he transitioned his practice
as folks used to do family practice general practice to
Marty Rutledge and doctor Rutli's from the time I was
when doctor Allen retired and moved to clear Lake. Doctor
Rutli's was the doctor in Orange that a lot of
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folks had. It wasn't the only doctor in town, but
and he seemed to enjoy what he was doing. And
we would go in and he'd close the door and
we'd talk, and we'd talk about my health and what
I was eating, and how I was sleeping, and was
I nervous, and was I anxious? And was I did
I have any worries? You know, suicide was talked about
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a lot back then, and he knew me pretty well
that there was no risk for me. But those were
the kind of things your doctor would talk to you
about before the counseling and all that. A doctor was
somebody who genuinely cared about you. They did. They were
one part minister, one part therapist, one part scientist. And
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you loved them. And you stuck with that doctor. And
you didn't wait out in the waiting room for five hours.
And it wasn't a mill, you know, you didn't walk
in there. They see you write your script, move out.
Then you get forty letters. You don't know if the
insurance's company is going to put This is messed up.
This is not rational. So I've got one friend who's
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a doctor who if he performs a procedure, they have
to call and get approval from the insurance company. Well,
they may not answer. Insurance company is no hurry. So
he has a girl who calls their girl. And then
an insurance company tells you whether they'll cover it or not.
And sometimes they say yes, you perform it and they
don't cover it. Well, the patient thought that was covered
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by the insurance, and some patients just can't cover that.
So I talk to a lot of doctors and I
asked these questions about how insurance changes their practice. It's
very frustrating because there are things that insurance won't pay for.
Now I've got my own opinion. You're not going to
like to hear this, and that is people will go
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out and buy a new car every three months, but
god forbid, I had to pay an extra two hundred
dollars to get a replacement heart when I've got ninety
nine percent blockage. It's amazing to me how cheap people
can be on the important stuff, and how freewheeling. They
can be on things that aren't really that that important.
I mean a new vehicles, new vida. Don't get me wrong.
My point is a lot of people will complain about
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things and the price when in the priority of things,
if you got X number of dollars, I'd allocate more
over here than to the other stuff. But in any case,
so that brings me to the following story. And then
we're going to talk to some conciers doctors about how
they like it. And if you are a person who
is a patient and you have switched to concierge and
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you'd like to share your story, I'd be happy to
hear it. So we brought my dad to Houston after
my mom passed Optember nineteen. Speaking of which, by the way,
fellas reminder Mother's Day, this Sunday, this Sunday, we're at Wednesday.
You better call Connie Stagner to Corey Diamonds. You better
make your reservations with Gringos or a Federal American grill
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or Big City Wings for this Friday night or Saturday
night or Sunday brunch. You better start getting the kids reminded. Hey,
you know, make a card for Mom. Anyway, So when
my mom passed, we started getting worried. He has a
full time caretaker and she's like family. When my brother died,
I hired her. She came in. Her mother and my
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mother were friends. She's my age, Her brother and I
played ball against each other. A great family, and so
it was like it was like my own sister was
there taking care of my parents. My dad died, it
was just her and him, and she can handle it, right.
He's got a lot of medical needs, but she can
handle it. She was doing a great job. But then
she had to go home. She's married, she's she's got
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dogs to feed, she's got things to do. So we
had to get caretakers. And then you're you know, it's
a cycle of people, and they don't. So we moved
him to Houston. We could be there and then all
the grandkids can see him, and my siblings can see him,
and my wife goes by every day, and I go
by almost every day, five days out of seven. And
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it is a delight to have him here. But the
unfortunate thing is his medical care. Doctor Rutledge is still
his doctor. If you can believe that it's been my
doctor's I was a little kid. So we needed to
get an interocrinologist because diabetes is his biggest issue. So
he's got a pump. And you know when when people
think they know what I'm talking about because they got
a pump or they're his pancs creates no insulin, so
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his numbers will fluctuate from below one hundred to above
three hundred, just like that his blood sugar and either
one of those can be catastrophic. He has been hospital
hospitalized so many times over the years. You I told
you wouldn't believe it. So we need a doctor here,
an indocrinologist who can take care of him. So I
called a couple doctor buddies of mine, and I was
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recommended to a woman named Anew Davis. She's Indian. Surprise,
She's married to a fellow named Jay Davis, and they
have another doctor in there in their practice. I think
it's called river Oaks Doctors or river Oaks something something something. Anyway, No,
it's not fancy Romone. That's who I was referred to.
That's who people like. So my wife gets on the
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phone with her and she is just over the moon,
excited over the moon. She said, great news. I got
him a new endochronologist and a new primary care all
in one. She's wonderful his first appointment is and she
tells us it's a concierge style practice and much better
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for us to deal with. The office visits are not
covered by insurance twenty two hundred dollars annual retainer which
covers all out of office consultations. She will also do
home visits to the old folks Home. She will deal
with and she goes through the various things that he has.
I'm not going to mention those. An office visit is
five hundred dollars an hour, but it's broken into increments
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of five minutes. After the first office visit, we will
not need that many office visits. They will answer the
phone at any time to figure out what to do
if his sugar goes up, or sugar goes down, or
he has any other medical need. They have a few
patients at the old Folks Home already, so she's quite
familiar with it. The office is in River Oaks. I'd
really like to try them. I really liked their approach.
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It'll be easier for us to deal with the concierge
style practice for him. I think he'll like it. A lot,
and so I get home and we start talking. Mind
So I start calling around and talking to doctors about
concierge and all that this particular woman will make home
visits or old folks homes visits. In this case, sometimes
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you can't get mom or dad or yourself out of
the out of the house. Imagine a visit to your house.
How cool is it?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Not all concierge doctors do that. I don't want to
say that. But the doctors that are doing it, We're
gonna talk to Will Davis as a friend of mine.
In a moment, he may we may be gathered together
as dads. He'll step out and take a phone call
or text messages, and he's treating a patient. That's what
people want.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Mincacle Barry's.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I am in a very fortunate situation. I have had
friendships with doctors for every part of my body, and
I mean every part of my body for a very
long time. Partly because I find doctors fascinating, because they're
a strange combination of scientists and therapists and there is
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an applied level to it, and partly because it's nice
to be able to text and say, hey, what should
I do here, Oh, come in. So I've had some
of my doctors on the air over the years, gim
Months my primary, Mohit Kara, my urologists, Stan Dukman my cardiologist,
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and on and on and on. As you age, it's
going to be something. If you're not there yet, or
for your parents, it's going to be something. And until
you have been through the hell of trying to get
an appointment in less than a year, waiting rooms for
hours on end, and God help you if the C
word comes up, because now you're thrown into a whole
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different world. Do you do radiation? Do you do chemo?
When can you get in to see a specialist? Do
you get a second? This is this is not this
is not healthcare. This is not what we once knew.
So the marketplace always finds an answer. It just takes
a minute. And a current answer for many people, not
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just patients, but or but but doctors is concierge's care
where you basically give a chunk of money up front
and you pay separately aside from what the insurance pays,
and you're paying for a value. So there'll be people
who I don't pay nobody. I bet my insurers don't
curR injuries, don't care. I pay insurance. Okay, Well insurance
is not paying the doctor properly, and the doctor doesn't
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want to practice that way. So you know that money
you spent over here, that was dumb. If you spend it,
you're buying access to a doctor on his cell phone.
What's that worth to you? So you can sit and
wait fifteen hours? Penny wise, pound foolish. But other people say,
and look, everybody has a different income level and wealth level,
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but where you are at, for a lot of people,
it makes sense to get out of the traditional insurance
game and have a concierge doctor. So one of them
that I've been paestoring questions like this for a long
time is doctor Will Davis. And the good thing for
me with him is I watched him transition from part
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of a practice to being concierge, from the asking questions about,
you know, working through how this would work financially, professionally,
time wise, patient wise, and all that. He doesn't just
take all comers. Now you've got this group of people,
you're like a pastor. This is your flock. These are
your people that you take care of. You develop a relationship,
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so when they call, you don't need them to fill
out fifteen documents. You know their story, you know their
spouse and their whole family. I think it's pretty cool.
It feels a lot more like what I grew up with,
which I think was a pretty good system. Doctor will Davis,
Welcome to the program. Thank you, Michael. I appreciate you
having me on this morning. Don't get all formal on
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me now. We've smoked too many cigars together, or is
that probably ruins your credibility. If people knew that you
have a better bourbon collection than I do, and you
may smoke more cigars than I do, I'm not sure
they still trust you, but I do. I think I
see how people respect you as their doctor. Let's talk,
first of all, from the doctor's perspective about why this
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made sense for you to go to concierge.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Well, so, I had been in practice for about twenty
years at the time, or twenty one years, and they had,
actually the company that I partnered up with, called MDVIP,
had been looking out asking me to join their group
of conciers doctors for about five years.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
And I was at the point where I was seeing.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Thirty five patients to day, I was getting burntout. You know,
I tried really hard to provide concierge level care to
patients doing that load, which you know, really affected me
and my family life. And then this opportunity came along
and I was like, you know, I think it's time
to make a change. And for me, it has been
a absolute blessing.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I mean, I think I've gotten.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
A little bit of quality of life back.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I'm a much better doctor than ever was before because
I know my patient's better. I'm able to discuss things
with them in a longer fashion. They have much greater
access to me, and like you said just a minute ago,
I don't have to you know, review a whole chart
just to know who they are. I know who they
are just because of the patients I've been taken care
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So you know, we talked over the years about I
don't know to say it's burnout, but frustration. And you know,
you got into this to help people, to heal people,
to treat people. What about the practice where you were,
the way medicine was being practiced, how has that changed
for you? Why did you make this change in that way?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
So do you mean why did I go switch from
thirty five patients to.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Like ten to twelve a day.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
I mean, I just think it made more sense for
me to go ahead and you know, get some control
back in my life, which I think this has allowed
me to do. Like I said, I can actually enjoy
my life more now outside of work when I'm still
as you said, I mean, we may be at a
dinner or something and I'm taking calls or text from patients,
which is totally fine and I'm happy to do it,
but I don't have to be at the office all
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the time. And you know, it allows me to work
and see instead of you know, see four to ten
patients or twelve patients, and my patients can get in
same day, next day. I mean, my patients, you know,
really enjoy it because they have that access and availability
to me that they.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Never had before.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Well. And I think the great frustration that I hear
from the patient perspective is the idea that the doctor
doesn't have time for you. And it's not because he
doesn't want to. It's because the NBAS took over. I
remember in the early nineties with Hillary Care, and it
was the battle was was it going to be a
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company like a private equity type group buying out these
you know HCA type deals buying out the practice, or
was the government going to take over the practice but
the doctor was no longer going to control the practice.
And that was very clear. Let's talk a little bit
about the way your practice works. So you sent me
the email yesterday that you send to a new patient.
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But in a minute and a half or so, walk
walk us through as a new patient what this looks
like to be your patient.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
So basically, a patient will come into the office, we
do a meet and greet, they go I go ahead
and tell them the amounts, which is, you know, it's
a little over two thousand dollars per year, and they're
able to use HSA or FSA.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
They go ahead and they come in and they do
a pre physical.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Evaluation and then come in and do a physical and
so we go ahead and talk about why it makes
sense for them to go ahead and do this. And
a lot of them are frustrated, like you said, they
can't go ahead and.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
See the doctor when they want to.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
They go ahead and they wait for hours or days,
you know, to be able to be seen where we
can see them in a very quick and timely fashion.
So then they go ahead and have this and they.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Can get their high.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Quality physical and we do what's called an executive physical,
so we go above and beyond what is traditionally done
in most offices to go ahead and try to create
a much better picture of a person's health rather than
just a couple of numbers. And again, my patients are
not just numbers to me.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
They're actually real people.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Where before based on all the old restrictions by the
Medicare Medicare, the traditional insurances, the hospitals where you have
to follow all these rules, and now you can do more.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Hold with me for just a moment. We have another
concierge doctor that we will speak to after doctor Will Davis. Folks,
it's not a show sponsor. I'm not suggesting that that
you that you find a new doctor. I am saying,
don't wait until you're sick to find yourself a doctor.
(33:08):
Don't wait. Look, you know that your heart's likely to
give out. That's the number one way you're gonna go.
So go see Stan Dukman, or find a cardiologist that's
recommended by your doctor, read their reviews, go see them,
Go get a check up, get your baseline now, These
are the kinds of things you can't wait. It's coming
to you, right, you're marching, you're whistling past the graveyard, folks,
(33:32):
So might as well ahead of time, get ahead of
this the same way you did with your investments and
everything else. All right, More concierge healthcare talk coming up.
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