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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Joe's legacy of accomplishment over the past three and a
half years is unmatched in modern history. In one term,
he has already surpassed the legacy of most presidents who
served two terms in office.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Or as you are.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans
are better off than they were four years ago?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So I was raised as a middle class kids.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
How he lied to me, not the way you see.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
An undocumented immigrant is not a criminal. And have to
correct course in this conversation. Una persona sis no escreminale.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I will snatch their cap so that we will take over.
Yes we can do that. Yes, yes we can do that.
Yes we can do that.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's what it's.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The question is do you have the will to do it?
I have the.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Will to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We are going to the border. We've been to the border.
So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border.
We've been to the border. We've been to the border,
to the border, and I haven't.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Been to Europe.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And as.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
There's a balance to be struck between being tough and
being a bitch.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Is Oh, yes you are.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I do not like people who want stories to make
to go public but are unwilling to put their name
behind it. I've had a problem with this for many years.
Pasadena concerned Citizen is not the name of a person.
And I received an email reminder of when the Godfather
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when Johnny Fontaine, who is said to be based on
Frank Sinatra, which would make the story uh a fictionalized
version based on the true story of Sinatra's relationship with
with the mafia. When when Johnny Fontaine comes to Vito
Corleone for advice and he's just sobbing and carrying on,
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and you remember what the Godfather, Vito Corleone said to him,
You can act like a man? What come out?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
That's how you turn out a Hollywood monogua Christ like
a woman?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
What can I do?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
What can I do?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Have you ever seen the mouthguard he wore for that movie.
He wore kind of like a like a mouthguard you
will wear for football. It was the lower jaw, but
it's so much bigger than you you would imagine, and
it forced his mouth out at all times so he
couldn't slip back into character. Pretty unpleasant. Looking. The second
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thing this same listener by would crumply sent me was
a listing commercial because they insulted this person by claiming
he has gingivitis, which I always appreciate a high school
level insult. That's trump does the same thing when you
hit people. You can hit a person on something that
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is a post forty or post fifty year old thing,
but when you hit somebody on a very personal level
with something that bothers them. I don't know this, Jeter Fellow,
so I don't know if any of that is true
or not. I'm just saying when you hit someone on
the playground level, it tends to sting a bit more.
And he sent a listing commercial and it got me
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to thinking, play.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
That well, sensit. It isn't ginger vitus, the gumment.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Mature of filling time gingivitis. I'll help protect you, gums.
I'll help protect you gums. History the action hero for
your gump. I'm about to go conspiracy on you. So
if that's going to bother you, tune out now because
I need three minutes for this and then we'll get
back to the cost. So I read an article on
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I read now a lot on health and wellness, and
just because someone writes something or makes a little documentary
looking type thing on YouTube and they seem to have
a commanding voice and maybe even some academic credentials. It's
one of many things you have to consider, but it
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makes sense, and it is that, you know, there comes
a point where major American consumer product companies began poisoning us,
slowly but surely. And one of the things that the
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more I read, the more I believe, is that killing
all bacteria, which they call germs, because germs are all
bad supposedly in your mouth is a bad idea. You
need these bacteria that when so many Americans have poor
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gut health, but with the best of intentions, because you
got to kill everything that's in your gut, right, that's
what you did. You got to kill everything that's in
your gut. Gotta have a clean, fresh, minty mouth with
no germs, which is bacteria. You don't want anything in there.
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Be clean, Get those bad, awful evil things out of there.
Buy this product, and at the end you got a
good burn to it. Who didn't love that listerine burn.
There's really nothing like the old yellow before they put
the you know, the green has a better flavor. The
old yellow boy, you knew what you were That was
pine sal in your mouth. I don't believe that's a
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good thing. As it turns out, our bodies have a
number of mechanisms to deal with external problems, and the
body heals itself many ways. And yet, if I'm selling
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a product to people who are self conscious of bad breath,
so you always start with something that's in people's mind. Oh,
bad breath. People don't want to have bad breath, bad
breath when they wake up. So what we'll do is
we'll freshen the breath. But what if we get fresh
in the breath and make it seem like we're also
making you healthier. Yeah, what if the thing that's causing
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the bad breath, the bad breath is uh, is evil
and is going to kill you. So we can both
give you fresh breath, put a little pep in your step,
make you healthier. It's medicinal. And so you get people
using a product that is actually quite bad for them
and has a number of things in it that you
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shouldn't be using. How does that happen? How does it
happen that the food? How does it happen that McDonald's
is eliminated beef tallow and started using seed oils. And
you want to go conspiracy theory. You look at how
evil seed oils are. You look at how much it's
been subsidized. You look at how much people are even
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the same diet and getting fatter. Yeah, I'm done.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
This was just officially endorsed by IRS agency.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You believe the Michael Barry show.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I'd rather not have that enduring been in Dexie Tagmas
down to the for Dixie Lan's where I was born
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Early Lord one Frostium, Luguay.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
On this day in eighteen sixty three, the first Texas
Cavalry USA left New Orleans for South Texas as part
of the Evil Union effort to interdict the lucrative trade
between Confederate Texas and Mexico. The first was one of
two regiments of Unionist cavalry from Texas to serve in
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the Civil War. The second was formed in Brownsville after
the Rio Grand Campaign got underway. Loyalty to the Union
was anything but a major consensus in Texas during the
Civil War. A total of one thy, nine hundred and
fifteen Texas men served the Union cause. In contrast, to
the many thousands who served the Confederacies, Brownsville was a
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center of Unionist sentiment. Significant numbers of civilians who supported
the North fled to the Lower Rio Grand, where a
provisional state government was set up under Andrew J. Hamilton,
and where Edmund J. Davis and others recruited cavalrymen for
the North. Davis had formed the First Texas Cavalry in
New Orleans in eighteen sixty two. In November eighteen sixty
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four of the regiment was merged with the second into
the first Texas Volunteer Cavalry. This new twelve company regiment
engaged in patrolling and reconnaissance duties until the end of
the war and was mustered out of service on November fourth,
eighteen sixty five. And for those of you who think
that the war was fought over slavery, do you really
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believe that people in Brownsville were signing up to fight
their neighbors over slavery? Do you really believe that all
those poor kids that left their family farm to go
fight against the Joe Biden Kamala Harris national government intervention,
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to go fight against the federal government destroying their community.
Do you really think they were fighting for slavery. It
blows my mind how many people say, Michael, I don't
understand your views on the Civil War. I don't know.
Abraham Lincoln was good, slavery was bad, and we should
just understand that and never speak of Robert E. Lee
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again because he was a bad man. We have to
change all the schools to Spanish words so that we
can have soccer instead of football. And I don't understand
your position, Michael, I don't understand it because we had
to keep America okay. Well, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
sent federal troops to remove the barbed wire that the
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state of Texas put on our southern border to keep
illegal aliens from coming in. The federal government came in
and took the power away from our state government to
protect our border from illegal aliens coming in, illegal aliens
that they're going to give nine thousand dollars to do
You support that? No, you should, because America and the
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Union and whatever Washington, DC wants is better than what
you locally want. Gosh, it's almost as if the best
government is local government, and we shouldn't be told what
to do by people. Six states away. But you just
keep believing slavery by the same people pitching Kamala Harris,
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a COVID vaccine and all sorts of other nonsense to
you because it's not true. Did you get Robert Jeter
on the line? Apparently, this guy Jeter is my kind
of guy, kind of about half. He was described by
one friend of mine in Pasadena as a nerdy bulldog.
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He means well, and truth be told, he's probably right
about most of his complaints. Everybody's known him for years
and years and his family. He's a running joke as
this gadfly around city hall. But he's a force for good.
And yeah, he might have gingivitis, that's what he said. Well,
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I tend to like people like that. I tended to
like people like that. When I was on city council.
There were people who would come down. There was one dude.
He had aides. I can't remember his name. He was
a He's a gay guy and he had aids, and
I mean, he was nuts, There's no question he was nuts.
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But he was a force for good. I mean, if
you got over the fact that he was weird as
all get out and he was going to be at
city council every week, and he was going to insult
city council for the things that city council did. He
never insulted me, but that he was actually right. You
were spending money on things that shouldn't be spent on.
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You were self dealing, you were doing this, You were
doing this, you were doing this, And at one point, I,
just to tweak my colleagues, punched out. He would come
down and speak every week, and everybody would would leave
the horseshoe. They'd go to the back so it wouldn't
have to hear him in his three minutes would be up,
and just because I enjoyed doing things like this, at
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the end, I said, thank you for thank you for
your comments, mister cavaughan, and I will read what you've submitted.
Because he said packast everybody. He lost his mind. He
couldn't believe it. And I went in the back and
they said, oh my god, why do you do that?
Now He'll never go away because I like to amuse myself.
So yeah, I mean the you guys, Guerrero and Ronaldo.
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I know them because when we were getting Mickey Gilly
Boulevard named, they were the ones that fought against us,
and I do hear bad things about him, So yeah,
so maybe you know listen, I will tell you Tom
Bazan came down to city council every week when I
was there. He's an appraiser and he's a citizen activist,
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and he would come down and he would go he'd
put the paper here, and put the paper here. Here's
your budget today, and here's your budget ten years ago.
In the budget it says that you're paying for this
and you won't have to pay for it again. And yeah,
for these ten years, you paid for it, and you
got this, and you got this, and you got this,
and you got this and you got this. And people
hated him, hated him. He was nutters, and he is nutters.
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He's my friend. He's nutters. Who else would spend all
this time on something that doesn't pay and it probably
hurt his business. But when I went look for a
piece of dirt a property for the Redneck Country Club,
I called him because he's also he also has a
broker's license, because I wanted to put some money in
his back pocket, because I appreciate the fact that there
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are good people who, with great sacrifice to themselves, are
out there calling out Marissa Hanson. Great example, people will
say to me, she's nuts, Michael, she says something. I
don't care. I don't care if she's nuts. She's out
there doing research and I don't know if she's nuts
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or not. I don't know if Robert Jeter's nuts. I
know Tomas on his nuts, but he's my nuts. He's
my guy. And people would say. People will say to me,
you know you you retweeted something by Marissa Hanson and
I said, yeah, tell me what she's she's the one
that dug up this project on Green's Road that the
county's involved in. Did somebody else do it? I mean,
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if somebody else did it first, and she's ripping the workoff,
let me know, because she's not and she ain't making
any money at it. So we need some people that
are nuts. We need some people that are going half mad.
We need some people that are going half mad to
call out governmental waste because most people are not gonna
watch what happens at their little community. You need a
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nuts person at your local school board. You need it
in your local town, You need it at your mud meetings,
because when you don't, bad things happen, and the people
who are being called out. They don't like these kind
of people. Wayne Dolchefino does not get a standing ovation
when he walks into city council meetings anywhere across the state.
I can tell you that they hate him, they despise him,
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they'll tell you anything about it. But he has a
job to do right, and we need some nuts like that.
We've got Robert Jeter on the line. Oh, Thomasson's on
the line. I swear I didn't know that when I
said the worst vice president in the history of our
christ the Michael Berry. We can't afford four more years
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of this, and it's sad. I used to say that
unlike anybody, I knew my wife lost her mom when
my wife was nine years old, that I had not
lost any immediate family, and I knew how lucky I was,
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what a blessing that is. And then within two and
a half years, my brother dies unexpectedly and my mom dies,
which we never would have believed. My mom would go
before my dad. My dad's had chronic diabetes and other
health problems his entire life, and he does everything possible
to take care of himself. But he drew a bad
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hand but boys, he bluffed his way through that and
made it a long way just just by sheer dint
of determination. Anyway, I used that as a reminder and
a motivation that, you know, live every day to the
because it's gone before you know it. I think of
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all the people it's just been eleven years since the
RCC opened, all the people that I got to meet,
and some of them I got to know pretty well
because of that place, both on the stage and in
the audience, and getting to spend some time with Chris
Christofferson was pretty darn special. And you know, somebody told
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me recently that it wasn't dementia he had. They discovered
that it was lime disease. Did you know this? They
discovered it was lime disease. And apparently this happens where
people will have they'll have traits that mirror dementia, but
it's actually lime disease. There's no punchline, that's it. Robert Jeter, Yes,
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what are you doing to upset all these fine people
in Pasadena?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Telling it like it is so? And I do apologize.
You have me, You have me had a little bit
of a disadvantage. I have not been listening to the
show today. Am I radio has been busted for a
number of years.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Robert,
When you say I haven't been listening today, do you
normally listen?
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I used to listen to you religiously up until about
five six years ago. This is you know what.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I was on your side, but now I'm over there
with Guerrero and Sandoval or whatever the other.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
That's okay, that's okay. I used to listen to right
since you were on the Chris Bakers Show talking about graffiti.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh wow, do you know who Chris Baker's producer was?
I do not Ramon Jay Robles. That's a long day back.
Your radio is busted. Where was your radio?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
It's the truck radio. Oh I just I just never
got around to fix it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
We're gonna we're gonna get your radio. Hold on that.
That is that's my commitment to you. And then you
have no excuse what your truck is it?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Two thousand and one Chevy Tahoe.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
See he calls his Tahoe a truck. You see that.
I do the same thing, and Ramon doesn't like it.
What is wrong with the radio?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I'm the second or third owner. So I don't know
particularly who was the.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
One that had the song this, this, this, but there
ain't nothing wrong with the radio. You remember that song anyway?
All right, So so what got you involved to be
a gadfly activist at By the way, I did some
checking on you during the break Aaron Timpany. It was
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Aaron Timmand yeah, I thought so, but I wasn't positive,
and the feedback came back rather consistently that yeah, he's
nutear and squirrel turds, but he's actually he does good work.
He's he's he's a taxpayer advocate, he's a common sense as.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I've been attending pasting a city council meeting since twenty sixteen,
regularly speaking on issues. A lot of that was inspired
by you and the other folks I listen to on
ktr AH. And I'm not got to give you credit
here because you're the one that said, if you're going
to do something, put your name on it, which is
why at the last council meeting I put my name
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on it when I called out these comments directly to council.
I wasn't hiding. I do not communicate and honestly, and
I typically don't reach out to media.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Why do you not reach out idea?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Well, have you present company excluded? Can you name that
many folks in media that are honest?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes? And here's the other thing. Look, Robert, if you're
out there doing what people say you're doing, and you
take up one hundred causes, I'm going to disagree with
you on somewhere between three and thirteen. And that's okay.
That's how this process is supposed to work. So I'm
not going to tell you I'm gonna agree with you
on everything you ever do because that's your opinion, because
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you may be wrong.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
That would be weird.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
If you did right, exactly one of us would not
be necessary. That being said, if you're trying to win,
if the goal is to kill a bad bill or
get something done that a city or county or state
or any other entity is not doing, media can be
can be an asset, and just like any other tool
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or weapon, it can go one way or another, but
it's certainly not going to hurt you. What I find, Robert,
is the single greatest impediment to people who do what
you do. And I would say this if Tom Bezan
and Marissa Hansen and there's good people out there doing
what you're doing. Your greatest impediment is not that you're
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not on the side of good, or that you don't
you don't have facts, or that you your your argument
is wrong. Your your greatest weakness is you don't have
you get You get smothered for lack of oxygen. So
unless people understand what you're doing, then you can't. You
be surprised, Robert, and I do realize. I did do
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some checking on you during the break, and I called
several people who I respect, and they said, yeah, no,
he he really does. He does good work for for
no personal game.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Hold on.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Mass deportation. Imagine what that would look like using you trust.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Keep them coming. Folks are out there voting. Montgomery County
is up. Sandy Peterson is checking. Montgomery County voting is up.
This is a good year. One listener says. I'm a
waller ID teacher and I voted during my conference period.
I took two teachers who are of the same mindset
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with me to cast their votes as well. There were
a handful of people voting at eight thirty and everyone
working was over sixty. Yes, I did vote all the
way down the list. Robert Jeter is a citizen activist
in Pasadena. Robert, I did some more checking on you,
and somebody told me, I don't believe he's got a
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truck because he walks everywhere.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I've been known to save guests and walk places that
are not too far.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's a good way to make people think you're crazy.
I like it.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Well, I also do a lot of knocking on doors
and talking to voters, so people are going to see
me out everywhere walking.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Robert, I want to be clear, I like crazy.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
No, I get that.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Now, I have a friend of.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Mine who's a Republican Party official who said you're the
best block walker she's ever seen.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I'm also a senior party official on the Advisory Committe,
uh with the Republican Party.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh well, then you probably know who I'm talking about.
But anyway, she said she said that.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Uh, let's see what see if.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I can find this. Let me just just funny you
say that about block about blockwalking, because that was her. Uh.
Let's see, Robert is the best block walker on the planet.
And Tom Beason will give local governments hell and always
be right on the facts. How about that?
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Robert sounds good? So I know we have limited time.
I did want to let you know there are ongoing
investigations uh with Pastina PD. The version of what you
read on the air from those comments in that group
chat between Counselman Guerrero, councilmanibar and myself was the unredacted version,
not the one I read to council. And I'm not
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accusing PPD of leaking that, which means that someone connected
to Guero or Ibarra would have had to have sent
you that email because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Oh no, no no. I assure you this did not
come from them. The messages I received, and there were multiples,
were not with the intention of shaming you. They were
with the intention of bringing to public light what the
city councilmen.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Some of the people in their camp are not necessarily
favorable to them. They have folks are starting to jump
ship and the Democrat party is attacking itself from within.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
What was the issue? What is the what is the
underlying issue that you brought to the table.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
This actually that group chat didn't even stem from an issue.
Guerrero just randomly started Ebar created a group chat. Guerrero
just started randomly going off on me. On August twentieth,
and that continued on for some weeks, and then I
reported some of those comments that crossed the legal line. There's,
like I said, there's ongoing investigations, but when.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Are there something.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
They were hitting on a whole bunch of topics. They
they seem to believe I'm on the spectrum. Uh, they
seem to Uh.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No, no, I'm sorry, hold on, hold on. Those are
personal attacks they're making on you. Right, I get all that,
But did you criticize an expenditure by the city, or
an action by the city, or or a deal that
they did that is what was it underlying issue there?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I don't know. I've criticized many expenditures and that that
would be difficult to narrow down. I don't know which
one in particular they're upset about. Recently, there was a
wall installed in the council meeting, separating the council members
from the public. And I did say, it's a good
thing the mayor put this wall up here to uh
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protect us from some of his animals.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Uncounseled, Oh, my goodness, you don't care for Wagner.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I have no use for him, and I don't think
the citizens of passing and do much either.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Really I like him, but but you know, listen, I
can't say that every action he's taken has been a
good action. I can tell you he was a great
police officer for HPD for many years, and I know
people who do business in Pasadena like the.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Job with you.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
What's that.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
His disciplinary record would be in contrast to that?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You know. I will tell you, though, Robert, if you
spent any time, and maybe you have, you see a
long term police officer that the number of officers who've
never been disciplined by some highly political chief to cover
their own ass is few and far between. And some
of the best officers I've ever known because they're willing
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to run into a fire and get somebody out in
violation of policies. But be that as it may, my
guess would be that Wagner wouldn't be your problem the
way Guerrero and Ibarro are.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Not.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
This week.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
See, I like you because even people who are out
to help you and praise you, you're going to end
up aggravating them by the end of it. And that
there's a certain charm.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Absolutely yeah, And that's not lost on me. But my
comments at the last council meeting with my dad in
the audience, insisting that Guero and Ibarra apologized to my dad.
But my comments at the last council meeting, we're actually
a footnote. Guerrero, before the meeting even started, had instigated
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a short man into attacking another senior citizen who was
there with his severely autistic son, and that short man
in ended up being escorted out of the meeting and
arrested for disrupting the meeting. So my comments the council
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were honestly a footnote had incited. Ah, I'm five nine
and he comes up to my.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Shoulders, so I but it's not a midget.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Not far from Robert.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
This is christinating because you described I've never heard anybody
described as a short man in the way that you
would describe someone with a purely identifiable feature, like well,
there was a black man that walked in, then there
was a Hispanic man that walked in, and then there
was a short man that and the short man did this?
Have you ever heard that? Rymm, that's such an interesting
just We're gonna have to think on this. I didn't
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know if short man was a euphemism for midget. Do
they call them dwarves now and not midgets. That feels
that's I think midget's much better because when I think
of dwarves, I think of snow white and that I
wouldn't want to be called a dwarf. You people are like, oh,
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do your magic, You're a dwarf.