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or you do genital mutilation and chemical castration.
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Who need it the most.
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Pastor Byron McWilliams of First Odessa is our guest pastor.
Why knowing that it will probably offend some people, maybe
cost you some members, why do you speak out on
why people should vote and how they should vote and
what the issues are facing Christians in America today? Why
do that?
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Man? Michael, That's the question right there. Ultimately, I would
say that it goes back to the time that Donald
Trump ran for the first time and Hillary Clinton was
the opponent, and at the last debate they had the
Hillary Clinton stood flat footed and said she's going to
aboard a baby all the way up to the end
of nine months. And I set there praying and I think, God,
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how do you want me to address this as a pastor?
Because my people need to hear from their pastor. And
I took both platforms at that time looked at him.
The Democratic platform looked like it had been written kind
of by the Antichrist, and the Republican platform looked like
it had been almost a Sunday School lesson because it
referenced God so much. I brought those into the pulpit
with me, and I preached a message using those, the
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dichotomy of those, and looking at that, I prayed about,
what do I need to do here, because I don't
want to offend unnecessarily. But what I have found is
that if you preach the word of God, you're going
to offend people. That's just the bottom line. And so
I prayed about when God, if he wanted me to
preach a message like that, this go round and this
last Sunday is when he gave me the message to preach,
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And man, God calls the shots. I can't do anything
other than what I believe he desires me to do.
Nobody else tells me what to preach. It's just I
go to him, I pray, I seek God's leadership, and
then I step in and hopefully can deliver exactly the
message that he desires me to preach. So that's really
how it came about. I've never really shied away from
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tough subjects. You said something earlier about being fearless. No,
there is fear involved, but the fear cannot be allowed
to stop me from speaking and saying what God wants
me to say.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Do you get complaints?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, I do. It is a We live in
West Texas, and I will tell you that West Texas
is probably one of the reddest places in Texas, and
I love that. But I don't think it would matter
where I live. I'm going to preach the word, and
if I was in Southeast Texas still I would preach there.
I preach the same way when I live there. People
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do complain at times, but people who know me, they
know my heart, and they know that my desires to
lift up and exalt the Lord Jesus above everything else.
And I just feel strongly that if the church is
silent during these perilous times, if the church is silent
when we see all of the evil that is going on,
we we I'll stand before God and I will I
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will have to give an account of why I did
not speak up and why I did not warn the
sheep whom are under my responsibility as their shepherd. That's
so yeah, I get complaints, but the complaints are not
going to stop me from doing what God wants me
to do.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I note your involvement and leadership, rather impressive resume of
service and leadership in the Southern Baptist Convention and the
International Baptist Church. It's it's obviously you are well respected
among among ministers. When you when you look at that
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service and you look at churches across the country, obviously
a lot of pastors are not willing to do what
you're willing to do. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
That's a great question. I've thought about that. I think
fear is certainly the biggest issue for most and I
struggle with that, okay, because I'll tell you why. I
think if I'm going to let fear stop me from
speaking the word of God, that's not really fear. It's cowardice,
and I can't stand that. I think there's a fear
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that some pastors have a have of losing members, and
let's just call it what it is. They don't want
to lose somebody that tithes and gives to the church
because there's budgetary issues. But again, my God does not
just own a cattle on a thousand hills. He owns
a cattle on every hill, and he can provide, and
he does provide. And then I think there is the
fear in the mind of some that they're dishonoring the
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Lord by standing up and speaking, you know, and what
they call politics, I think it's dishonoring to the Lord
to not stand up and not speak truth regardless. And
that's our calling. And you know, for the first time
in American history, you have the pulpits in America that
are practically silent, and world history has an American history
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has never had silent pastors out there, you know, just
just sitting and watching that which is devastating to our culture,
devastating to the generations that are coming behind us. And
they're going to sit by quietly and watch this take
place and not stand up and speak out against it
and seek to lead God's people to deeper, to deeper
holiness toward in honor of Him. I just can't abide
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by that. So I think it's fear. I think it's
fear of losing members. I think it's that big word, fear.
Speaker 9 (07:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I genuinely believe, not just a political comment, genuinely believe
it is much deeper than that, that there is a
move by the devil to silence the church. And I
think that a number of people have succumbed to that.
And I'll tell you, I don't know your finances. I
don't know your church is financing. I will tell you
when I see these churches constantly in the middle of
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a building fund, constantly in the middle of some fund
to enrich the pastor constantly trying to do something bigger.
You know, there was a prayer of job as era
where everybody wanted to expand their lands, and I found
that to be very, very unbiblical. But just like at
the individual level, just like with the United States Treasury,
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when you take on all these debts, you put yourself
in a situation. I tell young people this today, when
they get their first job, do not go lease a
BMW or a Mercedes and take out a loan on
a big house. You've just started your job, because then
you can't leave when you're compromised. And I think that
that has affected a lot of the church. Pastor Byron McWilliams,
can you hold with us for just a moment the
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first Odessa. Yes, And by the way, you can find
him on YouTube or any other site if you want
to see his sermons, and from what I've seen, yes,
they are wonderful. We think sweet tea.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
We don't you think socialist.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You can find Pastor Byron M. Williams on YouTube, not
by his name, by the name of the church, because
he doesn't puff his own name up. It's first Odessa.
They they seem to post most everything they do in
their service for people to enjoy, learn from, grow from.
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I'm guessing they have a department that handles that. But
you can get a lot of his sermons if you
subscribe to our Blast. Jim Mudd, our creative director, will
put a link to the sermon in particular that I
was sent by a listener, which is why I read
my emails for things like that. I would have never
known of this fella or this church. You'll get the
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sermon about why it is important for Christians to participate.
Civic engagement is very, very important.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Pastor.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I do want to take a moment and step back.
I know you left Woodville in your junior year of
high school.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Yeah, it was my junior year.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Okay, how many times would you guess you've eaten at
the Picket.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
House Oh, buddy, the picket House is wonderful. I grew
up eating at the Picket House. Man. My wife is
listening and she texted me a minute ago and she said, oh, man,
I want some picket House fried chicken. Yeah. So, because
it is good stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
This is I love their website because they don't screw around.
I've read their entire website, which doesn't take that long
on the show before. But it goes like this. The
world famous Picket House restaurant serves boarding house style all
you can eat fried chicken, chicken and dumplings, country vegetables, cobbler, biscuits,
and corn bread and all different condiments for you're liking.
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Are you a fried chicken man, or are you gonna
have the chicken and dumplings?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
No, I'm gonna have both, man, Why not have both
of you there?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I need you to prioritize. We prioritize on this show, pastor.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Then I'm going to prioritised fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Are you going darker or white?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Mean? I'm a boat if I have to pize.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What's that.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
I said? I'm going to prioritize white meat if I
have to prioritize there.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay, that's a terrible choice. But okay, let's see country vegetables.
What is your favorite country vegetables?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
There turn the greens man cobbler.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
What's your favorite? What's your favorite flavor of cobbler?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Peach?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Are you gonna Are you gonna go biscuits or corn bread?
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
I'm doing corn bread all the way.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
This is my favorite. At the end, they've got guidelines.
It says number one, there are no individual menus. They're
not even playing like you want to come here and
play by the rules. You're gonna have a great meal,
but don't start all this separate tabs and on that.
Number two, pick up your own silver wearing drinks as
well as refiels of drinks. Number three, ask for condiments,
extra towels, or whatever you need. We're not wasting a
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bunch of stuff around there. Number four, return your dishes
to the kitchen window. That's not asking too much. Number five,
A plate launch is available upon request. See these are
people that were raised right in my household, and I
guarantee you were raised the same way. My parents set
out very strict rules. And guess what we didn't get.
We didn't need to be beaten. We didn't need to fight.
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My parents set out strict rules, and you understood the rules.
And I think those rules give you comfort and security.
You don't have to keep testing them. I see these
parents raising children where they're begging the child, can we
please please go? We got to get home. Can we
please please go.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
And get nah?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Please?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Little billy please? Can't stand that. Okay, So let me
ask you a question. You probably can't answer this, But
a friend of mine who lives in the Good Bull
says Picket House was great. Now it's only good. The
Blacks sold to the Pentecostals, and the Pentecostals are doing
the best they can. But the quality of food went
down when the Black's left.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Okay, So here's what I can tell you. When I
was growing up, there a woman by the name of
missus Bean, and she was a black lady. I went
to school with her with her son.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Please tell me her son's name was Butter.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
No, it wasn't Butter. I can't help you there, buddy,
you know, but that's good. And she cooked fried chicken
and it was the best fried chicken in person ever
eat on the face of the earth. It's hard for
me to compare between the two now because they still
cook great fried chicken. So I'm not gonna say that
it's just good. I'm gonna probably say it's still great.
We still go there every time we come home.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And how often is that?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Oh not enough?
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Man?
Speaker 6 (13:36):
A couple times a year. We make it back over
to East Texas.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You still have relatives there.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
My mom still lives outside of Woodville. Yeah, Oh really?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
What's her name?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Yeah, her name is Arlene.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh my goodness, I love her already. I love her already.
So I got a message from one of our county commissioners,
are our best county commissioner here in the greater Houston
Ry Harris County, And he said, my mom is from Woodville.
My grandfather, Stanley, who I was named for, was a
deacon at First Baptist Woodville. I love Woodville. And I said, well,
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what's your mother's full name? And he said, ethel Lee
Stanley and her dad is George Thomas Stanley. And my
name is Thomas Stanley STA N D. L. E. Y. Ramsey,
and he's Tom Ramsey. He grew up in Crockett, but
his family. I love all that East Texas stuff, all right.
I got a little trivia for you, hotshot, because I
suspect you might know this, okay, growing up in Woodville
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as you. Did you know that it is in Tyler County.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
M HM.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Woodville is the county seat of Tyler County and was
named for whom.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Ah, that's a great question. I was gonna. I would
love to say John Henry Kirby, because Kirby Lumber Company
and everything had such an impact there. But it had
to be somebody related to the Wood family, and and
I don't really know the ultimate It.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Was named after the second governor of Texas, George Tyler Wood.
He was just he was defeated for No. I had
to look it up. He was defeated for re election. Okay, okay,
And it turns out, you know, I thought, well, who
was the first governor? And I would have thought, well,
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maybe it was Sam Houston.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sam Houston's not elected governor until twenty three years after
the Alamo. He was the seventh governor. Our boy, George
Tyler Wood was the second governor. Did you happen to
know a lawyer from Woodville with the last name Kenny?
Because I had a law school classmate named Robert Kenny
and his dad was a big deal in Woodville.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I did, yes, sir, So he would have been family.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, he would have been a little younger than you.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
What's the hardest part about being a pastor?
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Oh? Man, the demands just from it's the hardest part.
But it's the best part. The demands and loving your
people and shepherding your people. You know, that's that's the
hardest part right there, I would say, But it's the
best part, you know, standing up and preaching, that's wonderful.
I love to do that, and I thank God for
the privilege of getting to do that. And but you know,
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I'm going to preach regardless. If I don't have a church,
probably I'm going to find I'm will find somewhere to
preach and somehow to spread the Word of God. But
loving the people and loving my people here. We've been
here twenty years, man, And when I first got here,
I was like, seriously, we're moving to West Texas, away
from everything I know. And but my family fell in
love out here with the people and with the area,
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and so you know, it's just good people and they
love the Word of God.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Is the most political thing you have to go through
every week, deciding which family, You'll have dinner at there,
There'll have Sunday lunch at their house.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
No, I don't have to do that that much now.
That was more in my other two churches, but not
now I am. I try to love them all, and
there's some you know, obviously in every church there's people
that are easier to love than others. But my goal
was to love them all. God's called me to shepherd
them all, so that's what I desire to do.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You will appreciate this. With the challenges and demands on
your time and energy. When I got elected to city
council in two thousand and one, I went to ed
Young because I couldn't keep up. People wanted me to
go to their kids' bar mitzvah. They wanted me to
go to their kids wedding. And I'd been elected citywide.
It's a big city and a lot of people had
invested in me. They put a lot of time and energy.
And my wife said, why don't you go talk to
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Pastor Young. He'll be able to handle this. He's got
thirty thousand members and they expect a lot more out
of a pastor than a city councilor. And I did,
and he gave me the book Good to Great by
Jim Collins and told me to read that. And he
told me that when somebody wants to have a meeting,
don't have it. Say what Let's talk about what you
need to talk about right now. And he gave me
about three or four bits of advice that have stuck
with me to this very day. So I have from
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a distance and aiation for what you do and how
you do it. But I will tell you that the
highest compliment I can give you is that you I
don't like the whole televangelist, preacher, rock star, megalomaniac, megachurch
thing from when we talked last night. You talk about
shepherding your sheet and and tending your flock, and I
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love that about you. Pastor Byron McWilliams. First Odessa that
you might be a shining example of what the church
should be.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
For a nice meal, Michael Barry.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
Think of our supporters, he called them garbage.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
No way, folks, I can't figure out if y'all are
Nazis or garbage. I need to know. I guess, I
guess you could be both spoke to Pastor Byron McWilliams
by message during the break and he said, you've made
me need to go to the picket house. I thought
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you'd like to know. I'm bringing some Southeast Texas to
West Texas today. I'm about to cook fried chicken and
sausage gumbo for our monthly staff luncheon. When the pastor
of a several thousand strong church has a servant's heart
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to cook for the staff luncheon, that's a good sign
right there. I was talking to a guy the other
day and he owned the business, but he was working
on the project. And I thought, well, that's interesting. I said, well,
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who owns the business? And he said I do. And
I said, but but you're here hammering away and not
just the workers, because I thought you were one of
the workers. And he said, I've never understood standing back
and bossing everybody else around. Hey, I don't have to
hire an extra person. Be if I own the company,
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I should know how to swing a hammer. See, I
got more experience than the rest of these young guys.
D if they see me working, they can't slack. And
it really, it really is a mindset. I took a
wonderful course. I forget the pastor's name. A pastor, I
forget the professor's name. At the University of Houston during
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a summer and the book that we used as the
text was called Distant Neighbors. Now, now, mind you, this
would have been summer of ninety one, and it was
about US Mexico relations, which was very different in nineteen
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ninety one. But the first part of the course was
an understanding of Mexican culture and Mexican politics, and I
don't know how many people really haven't understand. I mean,
it's quite a different history than America's history, and the
different factors at play, the European influence, the post World
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War two movement of Jews and some Nazis, the original
sort of Indian communities that were there, as we would
call them Native American is such a loaded term. But anyway,
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all these combinations that made Mexico what it is, and
I'll never forget that. This concept my professor was very
key to. He said, one of the biggest differences between
Mexico and the United States is the concept of success,
and that if you are successful in Mexico, you become
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what they call a latifundista. You become a person, you
become and you see us in many third world countries
around the world successful. And it's also, by the way,
it is also inner city black culture. You know you
are successful if you walk around peeling off cash, you know,
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making it rain in a grotesquely expensive car, with you know,
bitches and hoes everywhere, dripping with diamonds, in a mansion.
That is this very ostentatious display of wealth, and that
you don't lift a finger for anything. Everyone else does
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the work, everyone else is beneath you. It's very hierarchical,
very aristocratic, even if it's first generations very aristocratic. And
the idea was that what you hoped to achieve in
Mexico was great wealth so that you didn't have to
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be a person who worked. You could boss other people.
I don't know if it's my upbringing. I suspect that
has a great deal to do with it. My parents
had a lot to do with shaping my views. We
didn't like rich people. W didn't like them at all.
They were bad people. They were not like us. They
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didn't have the values we did. Rich people weren't good
parents because they didn't care about their kids like my
parents did, and rich kids were bad because they were brats,
and our concept of rich was quite different than you
would have today. But these were the values that were
kind of instilled, whether spoken or understood, as I was
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growing up. But the idea that someone did not change
their own oil made them a lesser man, not a better,
or cut their own grass made them a lesser man,
not better. It wasn't that we envy them because they
take their car to have the oil changed at the
shop in town. Was that we look down on them
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because they're lazy people and when the end times come,
they can't fend for themselves. In this mindset kind of
pervades a lot, a lot of the of the prepper
mentality that all right, you rich bastards, you've got all
the money in the world, but when they cut off
the grid, what are you going to do. You can't
fend for yourself, you can't purify your own water, you
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can't eat your own food. But that's just I'm giving
you a sense of kind of my journey and intellectual
pathway getting to where I am. And so now I
don't cut my own grass, don't want to. I don't
change my own oil. I don't do things that I'm
not good at if I can afford to pay someone
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else to do it. But I have such a.
Speaker 10 (24:48):
Respect for the people who do do that that that
is and it is very important to me that they
understand that you're no less important or valued or success
full than a multi millionaire or even a billionaire or
a doctor or a lawyer or the things that were
once uh you know, extolled as success.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And you're not garbage. I would like you to call
up and very briefly tell me one reason why you
are not garbage seven one three, one thousand.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
The first step been destroying the black community is to
dismantle the black family. To Michael Berry show, why don't
we ask missus Willie Brown if Kamala Harris cares about
Black families, speak.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Of our supporters, he called them garbage.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
No way, My supporters.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Are far higher quality than crooked Joe or lion common
higher Joe. Can you come the garbage? When when Trump
pulls out? When when Trump won lands at the FBO,
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he comes out, he's got his vest on, he gets
into the truck, which they've turned this deal in less
than twenty four hours. They got the truck. They got
it wrapped, they got it ready, They've got his vest,
they got the whole deal. They pick him up in it.
In Wisconsin, he gets into it. The media has to
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wait back. He drives into the press scrum and stops
and gives his interview out the window of the garbage truck.
The man knows show business. There's never been a politician
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understand it. They had to cut away. We'll play this
for you on the evening show. They had to cut
away from sitd In's coverage. Wolf Blitzer is sitting there
talking about how black people are or whatever it is
they're they're trying to call him na see it all is,
And they said, oh, we're cutting away. President Trump has
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landed and he's in a garbage trunk truck and there
he sat. He didn't give you an opportunity to film
him in anything other than the garbage truck because that
was the shot he wanted. And then he arrives in
Wisconsin and delivers his speech in his bright orange vest.
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It was just perfect. And at that moment, he's the
everyman at that moment, not just garbage men. Working class
Americans said no, he's not like me. In the sense
that he's got to decide before he goes into town
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whether it's worth it to burn the gas to get there.
He not liked me? Were or when when when my kid,
when the school asks for money for some fundraiser or whatever,
I gotta say, well, well, can't y'all find it?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
You sell?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I don't don't have that, but I don't embarrass my kid.
Working class Americans don't think that he struggles to pay
the rent every week, but they do get the sense
that he understands them and that he loves them. He
has a line he's taken to using, which is, you
can't lead America if you don't love Americans. And that
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is just perfect.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
All right.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
So the phone lines, I will ask you, can we
play our garbage tune underneath? Or mom, I will say
your name and ask you if you are garbage, and
if you are not garbage, you tell me quickly why
you're not. No long stories, high volume, high call count,
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high energy. All right, we're gonna go, Steve Walk, David
Christy Frank all the way down three nine, nine, one thousand.
If you're not able to get in yet, just keep
on trying. When Ramon picks up, you Just say your name,
because he's got to turn these calls. You don't need
to tell them what you're gonna call about. Just say
it's Robert and here we go, all right, Steve, Are
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you garbage? As Joe Biden says.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Michael, I'm a convicted fella who was able to work
his life back, turn back his family, great work, win
a wonderful wife, have a great job, able to pay
back on my debt of society only by the great God.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I am not garbage, Steve, God bless you. I believe
in redemption. Takes a strong man to say what you
just said and to do what you've done. Walt, Walt,
are you garbage?
Speaker 9 (29:52):
No?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Sure, I am not garbage. I am a Christian, I
am an American by birth and text by choice. I
love my neighbors, my family, and I'm a great grandfather.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I bet you are a great great grandfather. God bless you,
Wal David Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 9 (30:17):
No?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I'm not garbage, Michael. I believe in God Gun's country,
this great country that we live in, family values. I
love being here.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I'm a capitalist and we don't need what we're getting Amen. No, Amen,
thank you for the call. Christy. Joe Biden says you
are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 9 (30:45):
No, sir, I am not. I have made the image
of God. I am not garbage. But I do want
to commend Joe Biden for the one good thing he's
done as president. He gives millions of Americans that are
struggling a really cheap costume idea for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Amen to that, Well said Christy. Thank you, sweetheart. Frank,
Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I am not garbage.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I'll drive an eighteen wheeler down the road haul in
America's freight to the American people. The only garbage we
have has come across the southern border, and it's being
brought in by the sanitation engineers in the White House.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well said Frank. Living up to the very high standard
I have, which has been earned by eighteen wheel drivers
over the years. And I have maintained that eighteen wheeler
drivers have a lot of time to think while they're driving.
They're not fidgeting with their phone and not rushing to
get into a meeting that I'm on zoom calls, and
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they use that time to really think about who and
what they are, and how they feel about the world
and structure their arguments. What happened our music? We may
don't play forever. Oh damn. See even I have to
struggle folks. Ramona, I'm not garbage, but anyway, our eighteen
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wheeler drivers are always great callers. Brenda. Oh, I'm happy
to see the women are calling today. Brenda. Joe Biden
says you are garbage, sweetheart? Are you garbage?
Speaker 7 (32:19):
I am the stinkiest garbage in the whole state of Texas.
And I love Trump and I believe in freedom, and
I knew that he's going to get in and bring
America back again.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Let's get one more before the break. We'll take more
after that. Seven one three, nine, nine nine one thousand. Doris.
Joe Biden says you are garbage? Are you garbage?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Actually, yes, I am. I work for a garbage company.
Why am I not garbage?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
See that's kind of why we don't let women call.
We had two callers, so fellers seven one three, nine,
nine nine one thousand
It's that time.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
The Michael darry Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
America first includes all Americans, regardless of their race, their gender,
or their sexual orientation.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Why don't WeLive range these United States? We're the ones
who need itn't work.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Lets the rest of the world help.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Us forrarchmage and let's rebuild the mary First.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Our high is bridges.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
At fun part. Who's blessed?
Speaker 7 (00:46):
Who has been cursed?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
There's things to be done all over the.
Speaker 8 (00:53):
World, but let's rebuild the married first.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Our message to black Americans tonight is this, we want
you what we want for every American. Safe neighborhoods, good jobs,
clean streets, a country where you are judged based on
the content of your character, not the color of your
skin or your political beliefs.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Who's only he and watching that?
Speaker 8 (01:20):
Who's in charge of it all?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
God bless the army.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Got this a liberty, Get down the risk of it all.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Him posision of the back and away. Freedom is stuck in.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
First, Let's get out of wreck, get back on the.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Track, and let's rebuild and marry.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Our message to gay Americans tonight is this, You're free
to marry. Who you want if you want, without the
government standing in your way on small but it doesn't
mean that boys get to compete with girls and girls sports,
or you do genital mutilation and chemical castration.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
On our children.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Why don't muliver right?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
These United States were the ones.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Who need it the most.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You think I'm blind to smoke boys, It ain't no dot.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Pastor Byron McWilliams of First Odessa is our guest pastor.
Why knowing that it will probably offend some people, maybe
cost you some members, why do you speak out on
why people should vote and how they should vote and
what the issues are facing Christians in America today? Why
do that?
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Man? Michael, That's the question right there. Ultimately, I would
say that it goes back to the time that Donald
Trump ran for the first time and Hillary Clinton was
the opponent, and at the last debate they had the
Hillary Clinton stood flat footed and said she's going to
aboard a baby all the way up to the end
of nine months. And I set there praying and I think, God,
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how do you want me to address this as a pastor?
Because my people need to hear from their pastor. And
I took both platforms at that time looked at him.
The Democratic platform looked like it had been written kind
of by the Antichrist, and the Republican platform looked like
it had been almost a Sunday School lesson because it
referenced God so much. I brought those into the pulpit
with me, and I preached a message using those, the
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dichotomy of those, and looking at that, I prayed about,
what do I need to do here, because I don't
want to offend unnecessarily. But what I have found is
that if you preach the word of God, you're going
to offend people. That's just the bottom line. And so
I prayed about when God, if he wanted me to
preach a message like that, this go round and this
last Sunday is when he gave me the message to preach,
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And man, God calls the shots. I can't do anything
other than what I believe he desires me to do.
Nobody else tells me what to preach. It's just I
go to him, I pray, I seek God's leadership, and
then I step in and hopefully can deliver exactly the
message that he desires me to preach. So that's really
how it came about. I've never really shied away from
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tough subjects. You said something earlier about being fearless. No,
there is fear involved, but the fear cannot be allowed
to stop me from speaking and saying what God wants
me to say.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Do you get complaints?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Yeah, yeah, I do. It is a We live in
West Texas, and I will tell you that West Texas
is probably one of the reddest places in Texas, and
I love that. But I don't think it would matter
where I live. I'm going to preach the word, and
if I was in Southeast Texas still I would preach there.
I preach the same way when I live there. People
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do complain at times, but people who know me, they
know my heart, and they know that my desires to
lift up and exalt the Lord Jesus above everything else.
And I just feel strongly that if the church is
silent during these perilous times, if the church is silent
when we see all of the evil that is going on,
we we I'll stand before God and I will I
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will have to give an account of why I did
not speak up and why I did not warn the
sheep whom are under my responsibility as their shepherd. That's
so yeah, I get complaints, but the complaints are not
going to stop me from doing what God wants me
to do.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I note your involvement and leadership, rather impressive resume of
service and leadership in the Southern Baptist Convention and the
International Baptist Church. It's it's obviously you are well respected
among among ministers. When you when you look at that
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service and you look at churches across the country, obviously
a lot of pastors are not willing to do what
you're willing to do. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
That's a great question. I've thought about that. I think
fear is certainly the biggest issue for most and I
struggle with that, okay, because I'll tell you why. I
think if I'm going to let fear stop me from
speaking the word of God, that's not really fear. It's cowardice,
and I can't stand that. I think there's a fear
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that some pastors have a have of losing members, and
let's just call it what it is. They don't want
to lose somebody that tithes and gives to the church
because there's budgetary issues. But again, my God does not
just own a cattle on a thousand hills. He owns
a cattle on every hill, and he can provide, and
he does provide. And then I think there is the
fear in the mind of some that they're dishonoring the
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Lord by standing up and speaking, you know, and what
they call politics, I think it's dishonoring to the Lord
to not stand up and not speak truth regardless. And
that's our calling. And you know, for the first time
in American history, you have the pulpits in America that
are practically silent, and world history has an American history
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has never had silent pastors out there, you know, just
just sitting and watching that which is devastating to our culture,
devastating to the generations that are coming behind us. And
they're going to sit by quietly and watch this take
place and not stand up and speak out against it
and seek to lead God's people to deeper, to deeper
holiness toward in honor of Him. I just can't abide
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by that. So I think it's fear. I think it's
fear of losing members. I think it's that big word, fear.
Speaker 9 (07:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I genuinely believe, not just a political comment, genuinely believe
it is much deeper than that, that there is a
move by the devil to silence the church. And I
think that a number of people have succumbed to that.
And I'll tell you, I don't know your finances. I
don't know your church is financing. I will tell you
when I see these churches constantly in the middle of
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a building fund, constantly in the middle of some fund
to enrich the pastor constantly trying to do something bigger.
You know, there was a prayer of job as era
where everybody wanted to expand their lands, and I found
that to be very, very unbiblical. But just like at
the individual level, just like with the United States Treasury,
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when you take on all these debts, you put yourself
in a situation. I tell young people this today, when
they get their first job, do not go lease a
BMW or a Mercedes and take out a loan on
a big house. You've just started your job, because then
you can't leave when you're compromised. And I think that
that has affected a lot of the church. Pastor Byron McWilliams,
can you hold with us for just a moment the
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first Odessa. Yes, And by the way, you can find
him on YouTube or any other site if you want
to see his sermons, and from what I've seen, yes,
they are wonderful. We think sweet tea.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
We don't you think socialist.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You can find Pastor Byron M. Williams on YouTube, not
by his name, by the name of the church, because
he doesn't puff his own name up. It's first Odessa.
They they seem to post most everything they do in
their service for people to enjoy, learn from, grow from.
(09:26):
I'm guessing they have a department that handles that. But
you can get a lot of his sermons if you
subscribe to our Blast. Jim Mudd, our creative director, will
put a link to the sermon in particular that I
was sent by a listener, which is why I read
my emails for things like that. I would have never
known of this fella or this church. You'll get the
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sermon about why it is important for Christians to participate.
Civic engagement is very, very important.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Pastor.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I do want to take a moment and step back.
I know you left Woodville in your junior year of
high school.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Yeah, it was my junior year.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Okay, how many times would you guess you've eaten at
the Picket.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
House Oh, buddy, the picket House is wonderful. I grew
up eating at the Picket House. Man. My wife is
listening and she texted me a minute ago and she said, oh, man,
I want some picket House fried chicken. Yeah. So, because
it is good stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
This is I love their website because they don't screw around.
I've read their entire website, which doesn't take that long
on the show before. But it goes like this. The
world famous Picket House restaurant serves boarding house style all
you can eat fried chicken, chicken and dumplings, country vegetables, cobbler, biscuits,
and corn bread and all different condiments for you're liking.
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Are you a fried chicken man, or are you gonna
have the chicken and dumplings?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
No, I'm gonna have both, man, Why not have both
of you there?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I need you to prioritize. We prioritize on this show, pastor.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Then I'm going to prioritised fried chicken.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Are you going darker or white?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Mean? I'm a boat if I have to pize.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What's that.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
I said? I'm going to prioritize white meat if I
have to prioritize there.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Okay, that's a terrible choice. But okay, let's see country vegetables.
What is your favorite country vegetables?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
There turn the greens man cobbler.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
What's your favorite? What's your favorite flavor of cobbler?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Peach?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Are you gonna Are you gonna go biscuits or corn bread?
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
I'm doing corn bread all the way.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
This is my favorite. At the end, they've got guidelines.
It says number one, there are no individual menus. They're
not even playing like you want to come here and
play by the rules. You're gonna have a great meal,
but don't start all this separate tabs and on that.
Number two, pick up your own silver wearing drinks as
well as refiels of drinks. Number three, ask for condiments,
extra towels, or whatever you need. We're not wasting a
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bunch of stuff around there. Number four, return your dishes
to the kitchen window. That's not asking too much. Number five,
A plate launch is available upon request. See these are
people that were raised right in my household, and I
guarantee you were raised the same way. My parents set
out very strict rules. And guess what we didn't get.
We didn't need to be beaten. We didn't need to fight.
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My parents set out strict rules, and you understood the rules.
And I think those rules give you comfort and security.
You don't have to keep testing them. I see these
parents raising children where they're begging the child, can we
please please go? We got to get home. Can we
please please go.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
And get nah?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Please?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Little billy please? Can't stand that. Okay, So let me
ask you a question. You probably can't answer this, But
a friend of mine who lives in the Good Bull
says Picket House was great. Now it's only good. The
Blacks sold to the Pentecostals, and the Pentecostals are doing
the best they can. But the quality of food went
down when the Black's left.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Okay, So here's what I can tell you. When I
was growing up, there a woman by the name of
missus Bean, and she was a black lady. I went
to school with her with her son.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Please tell me her son's name was Butter.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
No, it wasn't Butter. I can't help you there, buddy,
you know, but that's good. And she cooked fried chicken
and it was the best fried chicken in person ever
eat on the face of the earth. It's hard for
me to compare between the two now because they still
cook great fried chicken. So I'm not gonna say that
it's just good. I'm gonna probably say it's still great.
We still go there every time we come home.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And how often is that?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Oh not enough?
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Man?
Speaker 6 (13:36):
A couple times a year. We make it back over
to East Texas.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You still have relatives there.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
My mom still lives outside of Woodville. Yeah, Oh really?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
What's her name?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Yeah, her name is Arlene.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh my goodness, I love her already. I love her already.
So I got a message from one of our county commissioners,
are our best county commissioner here in the greater Houston
Ry Harris County, And he said, my mom is from Woodville.
My grandfather, Stanley, who I was named for, was a
deacon at First Baptist Woodville. I love Woodville. And I said, well,
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what's your mother's full name? And he said, ethel Lee
Stanley and her dad is George Thomas Stanley. And my
name is Thomas Stanley STA N D. L. E. Y. Ramsey,
and he's Tom Ramsey. He grew up in Crockett, but
his family. I love all that East Texas stuff, all right.
I got a little trivia for you, hotshot, because I
suspect you might know this, okay, growing up in Woodville
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as you. Did you know that it is in Tyler County.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
M HM.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Woodville is the county seat of Tyler County and was
named for whom.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Ah, that's a great question. I was gonna. I would
love to say John Henry Kirby, because Kirby Lumber Company
and everything had such an impact there. But it had
to be somebody related to the Wood family, and and
I don't really know the ultimate It.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Was named after the second governor of Texas, George Tyler Wood.
He was just he was defeated for No. I had
to look it up. He was defeated for re election. Okay, okay,
And it turns out, you know, I thought, well, who
was the first governor? And I would have thought, well,
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maybe it was Sam Houston.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sam Houston's not elected governor until twenty three years after
the Alamo. He was the seventh governor. Our boy, George
Tyler Wood was the second governor. Did you happen to
know a lawyer from Woodville with the last name Kenny?
Because I had a law school classmate named Robert Kenny
and his dad was a big deal in Woodville.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I did, yes, sir, So he would have been family.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, he would have been a little younger than you.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
What's the hardest part about being a pastor?
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Oh? Man, the demands just from it's the hardest part.
But it's the best part. The demands and loving your
people and shepherding your people. You know, that's that's the
hardest part right there, I would say, But it's the
best part, you know, standing up and preaching, that's wonderful.
I love to do that, and I thank God for
the privilege of getting to do that. And but you know,
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I'm going to preach regardless. If I don't have a church,
probably I'm going to find I'm will find somewhere to
preach and somehow to spread the Word of God. But
loving the people and loving my people here. We've been
here twenty years, man, And when I first got here,
I was like, seriously, we're moving to West Texas, away
from everything I know. And but my family fell in
love out here with the people and with the area,
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and so you know, it's just good people and they
love the Word of God.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Is the most political thing you have to go through
every week, deciding which family, You'll have dinner at there,
There'll have Sunday lunch at their house.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
No, I don't have to do that that much now.
That was more in my other two churches, but not
now I am. I try to love them all, and
there's some you know, obviously in every church there's people
that are easier to love than others. But my goal
was to love them all. God's called me to shepherd
them all, so that's what I desire to do.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You will appreciate this. With the challenges and demands on
your time and energy. When I got elected to city
council in two thousand and one, I went to ed
Young because I couldn't keep up. People wanted me to
go to their kids' bar mitzvah. They wanted me to
go to their kids wedding. And I'd been elected citywide.
It's a big city and a lot of people had
invested in me. They put a lot of time and energy.
And my wife said, why don't you go talk to
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Pastor Young. He'll be able to handle this. He's got
thirty thousand members and they expect a lot more out
of a pastor than a city councilor. And I did,
and he gave me the book Good to Great by
Jim Collins and told me to read that. And he
told me that when somebody wants to have a meeting,
don't have it. Say what Let's talk about what you
need to talk about right now. And he gave me
about three or four bits of advice that have stuck
with me to this very day. So I have from
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a distance and aiation for what you do and how
you do it. But I will tell you that the
highest compliment I can give you is that you I
don't like the whole televangelist, preacher, rock star, megalomaniac, megachurch
thing from when we talked last night. You talk about
shepherding your sheet and and tending your flock, and I
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love that about you. Pastor Byron McWilliams. First Odessa that
you might be a shining example of what the church
should be.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
For a nice meal, Michael Barry.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
Think of our supporters, he called them garbage.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
No way, folks, I can't figure out if y'all are
Nazis or garbage. I need to know. I guess, I
guess you could be both spoke to Pastor Byron McWilliams
by message during the break and he said, you've made
me need to go to the picket house. I thought
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you'd like to know. I'm bringing some Southeast Texas to
West Texas today. I'm about to cook fried chicken and
sausage gumbo for our monthly staff luncheon. When the pastor
of a several thousand strong church has a servant's heart
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to cook for the staff luncheon, that's a good sign
right there. I was talking to a guy the other
day and he owned the business, but he was working
on the project. And I thought, well, that's interesting. I said, well,
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who owns the business? And he said I do. And
I said, but but you're here hammering away and not
just the workers, because I thought you were one of
the workers. And he said, I've never understood standing back
and bossing everybody else around. Hey, I don't have to
hire an extra person. Be if I own the company,
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I should know how to swing a hammer. See, I
got more experience than the rest of these young guys.
D if they see me working, they can't slack. And
it really, it really is a mindset. I took a
wonderful course. I forget the pastor's name. A pastor, I
forget the professor's name. At the University of Houston during
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a summer and the book that we used as the
text was called Distant Neighbors. Now, now, mind you, this
would have been summer of ninety one, and it was
about US Mexico relations, which was very different in nineteen
(20:48):
ninety one. But the first part of the course was
an understanding of Mexican culture and Mexican politics, and I
don't know how many people really haven't understand. I mean,
it's quite a different history than America's history, and the
different factors at play, the European influence, the post World
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War two movement of Jews and some Nazis, the original
sort of Indian communities that were there, as we would
call them Native American is such a loaded term. But anyway,
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all these combinations that made Mexico what it is, and
I'll never forget that. This concept my professor was very
key to. He said, one of the biggest differences between
Mexico and the United States is the concept of success,
and that if you are successful in Mexico, you become
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what they call a latifundista. You become a person, you
become and you see us in many third world countries
around the world successful. And it's also, by the way,
it is also inner city black culture. You know you
are successful if you walk around peeling off cash, you know,
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making it rain in a grotesquely expensive car, with you know,
bitches and hoes everywhere, dripping with diamonds, in a mansion.
That is this very ostentatious display of wealth, and that
you don't lift a finger for anything. Everyone else does
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the work, everyone else is beneath you. It's very hierarchical,
very aristocratic, even if it's first generations very aristocratic. And
the idea was that what you hoped to achieve in
Mexico was great wealth so that you didn't have to
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be a person who worked. You could boss other people.
I don't know if it's my upbringing. I suspect that
has a great deal to do with it. My parents
had a lot to do with shaping my views. We
didn't like rich people. W didn't like them at all.
They were bad people. They were not like us. They
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didn't have the values we did. Rich people weren't good
parents because they didn't care about their kids like my
parents did, and rich kids were bad because they were brats,
and our concept of rich was quite different than you
would have today. But these were the values that were
kind of instilled, whether spoken or understood, as I was
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growing up. But the idea that someone did not change
their own oil made them a lesser man, not a better,
or cut their own grass made them a lesser man,
not better. It wasn't that we envy them because they
take their car to have the oil changed at the
shop in town. Was that we look down on them
(24:01):
because they're lazy people and when the end times come,
they can't fend for themselves. In this mindset kind of
pervades a lot, a lot of the of the prepper
mentality that all right, you rich bastards, you've got all
the money in the world, but when they cut off
the grid, what are you going to do. You can't
fend for yourself, you can't purify your own water, you
(24:24):
can't eat your own food. But that's just I'm giving
you a sense of kind of my journey and intellectual
pathway getting to where I am. And so now I
don't cut my own grass, don't want to. I don't
change my own oil. I don't do things that I'm
not good at if I can afford to pay someone
(24:45):
else to do it. But I have such a.
Speaker 10 (24:48):
Respect for the people who do do that that that
is and it is very important to me that they
understand that you're no less important or valued or success
full than a multi millionaire or even a billionaire or
a doctor or a lawyer or the things that were
once uh you know, extolled as success.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And you're not garbage. I would like you to call
up and very briefly tell me one reason why you
are not garbage seven one three, one thousand.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
The first step been destroying the black community is to
dismantle the black family. To Michael Berry show, why don't
we ask missus Willie Brown if Kamala Harris cares about
Black families, speak.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Of our supporters, he called them garbage.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
No way, My supporters.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Are far higher quality than crooked Joe or lion common
higher Joe. Can you come the garbage? When when Trump
pulls out? When when Trump won lands at the FBO,
(26:00):
he comes out, he's got his vest on, he gets
into the truck, which they've turned this deal in less
than twenty four hours. They got the truck. They got
it wrapped, they got it ready, They've got his vest,
they got the whole deal. They pick him up in it.
In Wisconsin, he gets into it. The media has to
(26:25):
wait back. He drives into the press scrum and stops
and gives his interview out the window of the garbage truck.
The man knows show business. There's never been a politician
(26:45):
understand it. They had to cut away. We'll play this
for you on the evening show. They had to cut
away from sitd In's coverage. Wolf Blitzer is sitting there
talking about how black people are or whatever it is
they're they're trying to call him na see it all is,
And they said, oh, we're cutting away. President Trump has
(27:06):
landed and he's in a garbage trunk truck and there
he sat. He didn't give you an opportunity to film
him in anything other than the garbage truck because that
was the shot he wanted. And then he arrives in
Wisconsin and delivers his speech in his bright orange vest.
(27:32):
It was just perfect. And at that moment, he's the
everyman at that moment, not just garbage men. Working class
Americans said no, he's not like me. In the sense
that he's got to decide before he goes into town
(27:55):
whether it's worth it to burn the gas to get there.
He not liked me? Were or when when when my kid,
when the school asks for money for some fundraiser or whatever,
I gotta say, well, well, can't y'all find it?
Speaker 6 (28:08):
You sell?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I don't don't have that, but I don't embarrass my kid.
Working class Americans don't think that he struggles to pay
the rent every week, but they do get the sense
that he understands them and that he loves them. He
has a line he's taken to using, which is, you
can't lead America if you don't love Americans. And that
(28:33):
is just perfect.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
All right.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
So the phone lines, I will ask you, can we
play our garbage tune underneath? Or mom, I will say
your name and ask you if you are garbage, and
if you are not garbage, you tell me quickly why
you're not. No long stories, high volume, high call count,
(28:55):
high energy. All right, we're gonna go, Steve Walk, David
Christy Frank all the way down three nine, nine, one thousand.
If you're not able to get in yet, just keep
on trying. When Ramon picks up, you Just say your name,
because he's got to turn these calls. You don't need
to tell them what you're gonna call about. Just say
it's Robert and here we go, all right, Steve, Are
(29:16):
you garbage? As Joe Biden says.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Michael, I'm a convicted fella who was able to work
his life back, turn back his family, great work, win
a wonderful wife, have a great job, able to pay
back on my debt of society only by the great God.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I am not garbage, Steve, God bless you. I believe
in redemption. Takes a strong man to say what you
just said and to do what you've done. Walt, Walt,
are you garbage?
Speaker 9 (29:52):
No?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Sure, I am not garbage. I am a Christian, I
am an American by birth and text by choice. I
love my neighbors, my family, and I'm a great grandfather.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I bet you are a great great grandfather. God bless you,
Wal David Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 9 (30:17):
No?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I'm not garbage, Michael. I believe in God Gun's country,
this great country that we live in, family values. I
love being here.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I'm a capitalist and we don't need what we're getting Amen. No, Amen,
thank you for the call. Christy. Joe Biden says you
are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 9 (30:45):
No, sir, I am not. I have made the image
of God. I am not garbage. But I do want
to commend Joe Biden for the one good thing he's
done as president. He gives millions of Americans that are
struggling a really cheap costume idea for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Amen to that, Well said Christy. Thank you, sweetheart. Frank,
Joe Biden says you are garbage. Are you garbage?
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I am not garbage.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I'll drive an eighteen wheeler down the road haul in
America's freight to the American people. The only garbage we
have has come across the southern border, and it's being
brought in by the sanitation engineers in the White House.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Well said Frank. Living up to the very high standard
I have, which has been earned by eighteen wheel drivers
over the years. And I have maintained that eighteen wheeler
drivers have a lot of time to think while they're driving.
They're not fidgeting with their phone and not rushing to
get into a meeting that I'm on zoom calls, and
(31:46):
they use that time to really think about who and
what they are, and how they feel about the world
and structure their arguments. What happened our music? We may
don't play forever. Oh damn. See even I have to
struggle folks. Ramona, I'm not garbage, but anyway, our eighteen
(32:09):
wheeler drivers are always great callers. Brenda. Oh, I'm happy
to see the women are calling today. Brenda. Joe Biden
says you are garbage, sweetheart? Are you garbage?
Speaker 7 (32:19):
I am the stinkiest garbage in the whole state of Texas.
And I love Trump and I believe in freedom, and
I knew that he's going to get in and bring
America back again.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Let's get one more before the break. We'll take more
after that. Seven one three, nine, nine nine one thousand. Doris.
Joe Biden says you are garbage? Are you garbage?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Actually, yes, I am. I work for a garbage company.
Why am I not garbage?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
See that's kind of why we don't let women call.
We had two callers, so fellers seven one three, nine,
nine nine one thousand
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