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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What it's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Disturbing allegations about a Q sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and
members of his social circle. Those allegations come from newly
unsealed documents from a now settled court case against Epstein
associate Elaine Maxwell. A woman claims that Maxwell groomed her
to be a sex slave to Epstein and was trafficked
to some of his most powerful associates.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
As the training started. Immediately give Jeffrey what he wants.
A lot of this training came from gillin herself and
being a woman. It kind of surprises you that a
woman could actually let stuff like that happen, but not
only let it happen, but to groom into doing it.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
No one knows what it's like to behaved, to be faded,
to say, lies.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
Anti as my coship.
Speaker 8 (01:26):
See he's be he's power players a priority for us
right now?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Can we even touch them?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's like everything you know, it hides in planes side.
Epstein was hiding in plane side.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
We all knew about him, we all knew what he
was doing, but we had no one that would go
after him.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
The airplane that we flew on for this humanitarian mission
was owned by Jeffrey Epstein. And to then learn, oh,
he was actually on some of those flights, and this
Maxwell woman was on some of those flights. I didn't
know him. I've never spent any time with him. I
was with the Clinton Foundation people, That's who I was with.
Speaker 9 (02:10):
She told me everything, she had pictures, she had everything.
She was in hiding for twelve years. We convinced her
to come out. We convinced her to talk to us.
It was unbelievable what we had Clinton, We had everything.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Zamty.
Speaker 10 (02:29):
Asmuss to be There's no question executives at ABC protected
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Why do you think they did that?
Speaker 11 (02:40):
Well because their star anchor's name is George Stepanopolis, and
of course George Stepanopolis worked as Bill Clinton's communications director at.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
The White House.
Speaker 11 (02:49):
And when was all of this information being given to
Amy Orbach at ABC? When did she bring all of
this to her executives to say we should put this
on the air. Oh, right before a twenty sixteen president election,
when Hillary Clinton was running on the Democratic ticket.
Speaker 10 (03:03):
At the time, Amy Robach took this story to her
superiors and they said, I don't know who Jeffrey Epstein is.
His name was already all over the news. Is a
convicted sexophone.
Speaker 12 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (03:12):
One of the things you've been talking about on your
show is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedaphelia,
child trafficking and.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
The green of Joe. All right, what do you mean,
like what?
Speaker 6 (03:27):
No one knows what it's like to be the bad man,
to be the.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Sad Every name released, one of them, and then I
want the prosecutions to begin. You ever noticed that when
an elected official gets in trouble, you know that they've
been caught with the goods dead to rights when they
(03:56):
the final step is Okay, I did it. I'll accept
my punishment. I'll resign. Nobody goes out to the plant
worker and see unit at DuPont and Orange and says, hey, Norman,
(04:17):
you've been stealing money from DuPont millions and millions of dollars.
You've killed five people, and you've covered all this stuff up.
We're going to put you in prison a long time.
We've got you here. It all is, We've got photographing okay.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
All right, you got me.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
I'll I'll leave my job here at DuPont, okay, and
then you just go do something else.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But it's as if if you're an elected official, you've.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Always got this get out of jail free card.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Literally where man, I mean, they got it.
Speaker 14 (04:53):
They got to really really really really really have you
real bad and you go, all right, I'll step down,
and then the prosecutors go okay, and now it'll go away.
Speaker 8 (05:04):
But the guy that owns that the local burger joint
doesn't get that. Let's go to Blake, Blake black a Europe.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Hey, I think you als would call the new guy
commodore Kenda. Why it just has the ring to it.
You asked for the nickname for him. I thought good nickname, Blake. Yeah,
Commodore Kunda. I thought it was a good one. Not
gonna try again, Blake Anacunda.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
Yeah, why you couldn't bury the lead.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's ten times better than commodore Kunda. Did you just
come up with that on the fly? Yeah, because you
call me on the spot. Yeah, that was ten time.
That was good. That was good. It was really good.
All right? How old are you? Thirty one? Height, weight.
Speaker 15 (06:04):
Five ten and a half and I lay about two
fifteen two fifteen.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Okay, Nanda, you don't have to add the half. You're
five to ten.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What you are.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You got any hair?
Speaker 16 (06:20):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
What color is it?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Brown?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Eye color?
Speaker 16 (06:28):
Yeow?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You married?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes? There?
Speaker 8 (06:34):
Religious affiliation if any?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Church of Christ?
Speaker 17 (06:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, I don't have any music. Did you go to
Abiline Christian?
Speaker 14 (06:47):
Well?
Speaker 18 (06:47):
Party in?
Speaker 8 (06:47):
It was party in Arkansas? I had a classmate it
was Church of Christ. Went there'll be good school. What
do you do now?
Speaker 18 (06:55):
Well, I'm kind of the great jobs.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I used to be a teacher getting a lot of
guys on the side.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I can barely hear it, you.
Speaker 15 (07:08):
Blake, Well, I used to be a teacher on I
teach tennis on the side, and I'm working on getting
a tickleball certification. But I'm actually working for a more
stable day job in the meantime as well, because I
don't want to go back into teaching if I can
help it.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Were you teaching in school or just a tennis lesson instructor.
Speaker 15 (07:29):
In the school?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
How much you get per tennis lessons?
Speaker 15 (07:34):
Fifty dollars an hour?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And where were you teaching those? Some I'm on my
loan in Crosby.
Speaker 15 (07:43):
So I'm in my parents neighborhood in a task Casita
and some of the Eagle Point in mot Belview.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Where did you did you play high school? Did you
play college tennis?
Speaker 15 (07:55):
I chose not to play in college because there wasn't
a whole lot of money for it and it was
a big time.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Admit. I played for Summer Creek High School. How far
did you go?
Speaker 15 (08:07):
I just said number one varsity. We went to regionals once,
but I didn't get much farther than that.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
There's a lot of these pickleball bars popping up, and I,
you know, I don't know how I think.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think there's gonna be some money and pickleball lessons.
I really do that might be worth your time.
Speaker 17 (08:25):
And macuis doing Michael, I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Getting her off mom. My favorite chest a song forgive
me time. And I don't think you do something.
Speaker 19 (09:02):
I can't say today that I'm on right hurting by tone.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I don't think of something.
Speaker 19 (09:17):
I'll find so many things to do that I'm on
have the time to think of her, and then if
she's still on my mind, I've tried to drink and
to drown with her, and if on her.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
I don't think of something, you know, that's kind of
song where do I go for love? And I still
that vocal performance. You can't maintain that. Nobody can't, I
don't think. But that is the prettiest march. Yes, and
(10:00):
that's voice ever sounded. And and I would argue, there's
there's not There's only a handful of guys.
Speaker 12 (10:08):
Man.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
I can't see that could that can put on a
vocal performance like that. And well, I gotta get to
the calls.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You want to know.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
I know I said it, but I was I was talking. Okay,
you want to know how many? How many's on my list?
You want to know how many guys have delivered a
vocal performance like that in country music?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
How many? Seven? Okay? All right?
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Let mean mark out old boys numbers. He was thirty one,
five ten and a half, two fifteen, brown hair, brown eyes,
Church crisis.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's probably it.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
In between jobs, Tennis instructor, Eagle point uh Top seven
vocal performances in country music. I'm gonna go with I
gotta write these down so I keep the list. I'm
gonna go with Don Gibson. I'm gonna go with Verne Gosden.
Some jackassid doesn't know country music and popped up two
years ago and go.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Can you kiss me? Kenny? Kiss me?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
No?
Speaker 16 (11:00):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Chesty? Can't be on any list except gay. That's it.
You don't put him on any other list.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Okay, I'm the only guy I know that can get
aggravated over a hypothetical conversation.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's that's a sign of insanity. That's not normal. Okay.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
I got Don Gibson, I got Burn Gosden, I've got
George Jones, I've got etc. Because Earl Thomas Connley, Earl
Thomas Connley in Once in a Blue Moon is one
of the great vocal performances in all of music, across
every language. And I've literally heard every language in the
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history of an aramaic, all of it. Okay, so I
got Don Gibson, Burn Gosden, George Jones, etc.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I'm gonna put Merle on there.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Merle Haggard has to be on there. Man, I'm gonna
taste something. It's gonna surprise you. I'm at five, so
I got two more. I'm gonna put Dac David allen
Coe in Jody like a Melody is as pretty you
don't think of David. You think of David Allen co
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dropping in bombs, death, row cussing, fighting motorcycle gangs. But
I'm gonna tell you this, that is as fine a
vocal performance. Now, don't confuse good song with vocal performance.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
What about that? What the fellow who killed it? What
are you telling me? Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Johnny Ace, you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Yeah, he was at the children's he was at the
youth correctional facility, and uh, you know this is my story.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Stop all right? So I got Don Gibson verned guys.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Oh, oh, it's gonna surprise you, but it's what came
to mind. It's gonna surprise you.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I don't want to.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
I know y'all are out there going George, George straight,
George straight, and maybe it should be, maybe it should be.
But I'm gonna tell you who deserves to be at
least in the top ten if he can't make the
top seven.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Sammy Kershaw, Sammy Kershaw.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
I'm gonna put sk right there, and I'm gonna put
King George over here to the side. You know, my
favorite George Jones song, oddly enough, was way past his prime.
Troubadour Troubadour is. He didn't write it, He didn't write
hardly anything, but it's a song that was so perfect
for Oh no, no, sorry, I got I gotta take
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Kershaw off. It just popped in my head because I
thought about him Don Williams. I got to put the
general giant on there. In terms of a vocal performance,
you don't have to over sing a song to provide
a beautiful vote. Oh shoot, I gotta take the I
gotta take d A c Off. I gotta take d
ac off, and I gotta put Randy Travis. Let me
tell you something right now, and I will fight anybody
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over this. Randy Trivittandy Travis had as beautiful a voice
as country music has ever known. And please, please don't,
please don't embarrass yourself by sending me an email with
well by haink Sr. You don't even know who Hank
Senior is. You just heard from people that you're supposed
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to like. It's what Ramone does. That's exactly what Ramond does.
He tells you things that are great because in order
to be part of the smart set, you're supposed to
like that. And then there's this, you know it's it's
like this stupid uh is uh? What's that Mel Gibson
movie I haven't bothered to watch?
Speaker 17 (14:35):
Is?
Speaker 16 (14:35):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Uh with with the Danny Glover? Is it the Christi
Mush movie? And then they oh, diehard. Yeah, we're on
the inside. We produced your conversation that do people have?
It are sport, but it's not.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
It's a conversation that people have because they haven't had
an independent thought in their head ever. All right, that's
my list for now. I got Don Gibson, Verne Gosden. Uh,
you pissed me off.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'm a put Oh.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Oh, I gotta take somebody off to put Mickey Gilly
on there. And you know what's crazy about that? You're
gonna say, Oh, that's because Mickey Gilly is your friend.
Mickey Gilly's voice, Uh, kill me up? Room full of roses?
And plus you got you got the piano.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean let me put yeah, write him down? Whose
version Mickey Gilly's Room full of Roses? He wrote it?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You pull?
Speaker 19 (15:24):
If I sent a rose to oh, come on now
have every time you made you mean.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
What happened Mickey? What would happen?
Speaker 15 (15:33):
You?
Speaker 12 (15:33):
Hell? Hello?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Rose had divine Ricky didn't write every time I cried.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Over room, you just reprised said listen to hand it
by tut battles a ta oh.
Speaker 14 (16:09):
Imitary.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I've put Mickey in my top seven, So who am
I going to take off? I can't take off George Jones.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
There's some about vocal performances, and I mean his his
one of the most distinctive voice in all the country.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I didn't say it take Mickey. You can't take George off?
And Michael Arry show.
Speaker 12 (16:33):
Where that say over? You can lie up the dull
guys a good day.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Explain but here and you don't.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
See is this a little passive aggressive of it by
youth to suggest.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Be let me explain to you. I will explain to
everybody else.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
How come, Keith Whitley, how can you have a top seven?
Keith Whitley? Ain't on him because it's not a top twenty.
You got to take one of these off. We'll take
Don Gibson off? Why because you literally don't know one
song he sings. No, I'm not doing that, not until
you go study Don Gibson. Well, who's the other one?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Vern Gosden?
Speaker 8 (17:26):
Take him off again? You're talking about things you don't
know what you're talking about. Jim ed Brown's voices is
prettiest Keith Whitley, and I didn't even bring him up.
Ed Bruce, is this prettiest Keith Whitley, and I didn't
bring him up. The point of a top seven is
you got to make tough decisions from mong You gotta
make tough decisions in life. And yes, Conway is in
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the conversation, but I'm not putting Conway above Don Gibson,
Vern Goston or George Jones or Andy Travis or Don
Williams in terms of just a beautiful voice. And I
love Conway probably more than anybody has ever loved Conway.
I love Harold Jenkins aka Conway since nineteen fifty nine
when he first hit big with its only make believe, Tony,
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are we doing to take one?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Take one off?
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Put one on?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We didn't even announce it, And everybody's on the line
for that. All right, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
Yeah, take off VTC and put on Kenny Rogers, No way,
Kitty Rodgers. Not a great vocalist. Kenny Rodgers many many
many things, many many things is Kenny. But a great
vocalist is not Kenny Rodgers is not in the top thirty.
Kenny Rogers is not in the top fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
No, he does have a distinctive voice, but not a
great voice.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
He's not His voice is not an instrument of beauty.
It's a good voice, it's not even a great voice.
And we're certainly not taking off etc. To put Kenny
on there. And I love Kenny. You can like somebody.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Look, I really enjoyed talking to David Klingler yesterday. Teach
me the Bible dot com. That's the podcast in the website.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
But I'm not I'm going to tell you he's the
greatest quarterback to ever play quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals,
just because I like the guy and he wouldn't want
me to. That honor goes to Kenny Anderson period. Next question,
sid you're only Michael berry Shaw.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Michael, I'm not versed in country music, but I do
have one. I don't think you guys rounded out the
rock tunes yesterday, the seventh one. Here's one for you,
A deep purple Smoke on the Water.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Okay, but I want you to understand what the category was,
and let's see if you still want to submit that.
The category was not seven greatest rock songs, although it
might have appeared to be the case.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It was songs that are that are epic, truly epic,
and I.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
Use that word sparingly, truly epic, songs that you've heard
so many times that you you don't think of them,
you don't remember to list them, you don't ever go
to actively listen to it, because you've heard it so
many times it feels trite, and then there it comes.
I mean, you hear that opening of a hotel California,
you go, oh crap, I forgot how much I like
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this song. So no, I can't put that. That's no, no, no,
it's said, it doesn't it doesn't. Uh, Doug, you're up,
called Doug, I thank you. Really.
Speaker 18 (20:20):
I have to admit I like Keith Whitley and I
I heard your disagreement on that, but you also miss
Merle Hackard did not have Meryl.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
I got him number five on my list right here.
I got Don Gibson, Verba Austin, George Jones, E, TC,
Merle Haggard, Randy Travis.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Don Willis. I'm getting old. I guess my hearing's going well,
it's okay. I was bouncing around but.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
I didn't want to put Merle on there, if I
can be completely honest, and the reason is, Merle Haggard
is the most complete country music singer. He's a five
tool player. He's that Japanese dude gambles and blames it
on his trainer in Los Angeles? Was it sho hee Otani?
Is that his name?
Speaker 12 (21:03):
Ramon?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That dude?
Speaker 16 (21:06):
That dude.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
I mean, if he stays healthy and he stays motivated,
that guy could I mean, he he could set records
that haven't been seen since Babe Ruth because of the
combo of the hitting and pitching.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Anyway, Uh, what did he just say?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
The thing about Merle Haggard is he's a five to
a player.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
He's he's one of the greatest songwriters of all time
and the only guy who's in the top twenty all
time as country music artist who is also a great songwriter.
The only two guys, sorry, the only three guys sorry,
would be David Allen, Coo Whalon and Willie Like Tom
Paul is not a great singer, you give me great
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But anyway, I don't don't get off on that. But
I didn't want to put me on there because I
think of Merle primarily as a great songwriter who's also
a great singer, And I didn't want it. This was
about vocal performances. There are guys who are just an
incredible voice. For instance, Alan Jackson. I'm not an Alan
Jackson fan. I don't need to hear that you are.
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The Chattahoochee song, in my opinion, is stupid, stupid.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's cheap and cheesy and and plays to the lowest
common denominator. But remember When.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Remember When is one of the most beautiful country songs
of all time.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It's up there with Keeper of the Stars. In fact,
it's actually a prettier.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Song structurally and and in execution. It's an absolutely glorious song.
Uh you know who else I didn't put up here
because I did it on the fly. John Henderson. Now
he's not going in the top seven, but I'm gonna
tell you this, John Henderson's gonna be in the top twenty.
And we're gonna we're gonna do swinging, and we're gonna
do chicken truck.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Chicken truck.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
I mean, it's the That is the single greatest song
about a chicken truck ever ever written or sang. Let's
go Bill, who's eighty one going on eighty two?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Bill?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You're up? Bill dropped? Okay, Well maybe he won't make
Adie two when she'll drop.
Speaker 18 (23:10):
Maybe he got my eighty ad on fired up here.
First he was talking about Epstein. Now country music and
out of storyteller, So I don't know where to start.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Just do the country music. We'll have to tell you
hear about Epstein tomorrow.
Speaker 18 (23:20):
Well it died in two thousand, But Cody Jenks and
Clint Black singing nothing's news. When Clint Black comes in
with his part, he sounds the best he's ever sounded.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
And that is saying something because Clint Black, you know,
there is a whole I was driving back from San
Antone last night with a buddy of mine, Michael Robinson,
and he is he is for a young guy.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
He's only like forty five for a young guy.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
He has a keen appreciation for classic country, and he
made some stupid statements I had to correct him on.
But pretty much he's got a good head on his shoulder,
considering that he learned at the foot of his father.
But you know, all the music that we're talking about
was before he was born, so he didn't he didn't
know what he's talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
He just what he's been told, but pretty good.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
And we were talking about the the neo classical movement
and and that is, you know, early to mid eighties
and really picks up in Earnest and that is is uh,
George Strait is kind of the you know, on the
front end of that.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
But Earl Thomas Connelly was huge as that.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
And then you've got Alan Jackson and Blake Shelton comes
along about the time that that Tracy Bird does, and
Mark Chestnut.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And Clint Black and and those guys are I mean,
you talk about pure, beautiful.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
Traditional kind of Ed Bruce style classic country voices. That's
a that's a beautiful that's a great time in country music.
Speaker 16 (25:04):
When I was a kid, Uncle riam and supperbed me
to bed with a picture of stone walled Jackson above
my head. Then Daddy came in to kiss his little man,
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with gin on his breath and a Bible in his hand.
He talked about honor and things I shouldn't know. Then
he staggered little as he went out the door. I
can still hear the soft southern winds and the live old.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Trees and those Williams boys.
Speaker 16 (25:53):
They still mean a lot to me. Hain't him Tennessee,
I guess swell.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So dude, the good old boys. Like one of the
great honors of my life.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Was I wanted to track down Bob McDill who wrote
that song, so many of Don Williams's best songs.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And he was from Beaumont. Uh I think he was from.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
Screen starts with a sea right outside of Beaumont.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Not Camden on the water, Camden on the lake. But
what's it called, uh, Conroe, It's like April sounding. He said.
It was used to play tennis. There a guy named
any One. He was a Ruben.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Darn it.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
I can't remember what the call, but anyway, that's where
he was from. And I got an email from somebody
who was a listener who said, Bob mcdillan knows who
you are.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He's a fan, and he would welcome your call. He
authorized me to give you his number. I was like,
there's no way he lives in Nashville.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
We were on in Nashville. There's no way he's listening
to me. And I called and it rang about eight
times because old people still have landlines, so you just
let it ring.
Speaker 15 (27:32):
For you.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Remember the old days, you.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Go, hey, get the phone, and everybody would argue because
nobody wanted to get the phone. Like you would go
an entire day without talking to somebody on the phone.
That's so crazy to think there would be an entire
day that would go by. You didn't think anything of it.
You didn't call anybody, and nobody called you. Michael Robinson
made a line yesterday he said, Uh, I called him
(27:55):
on the phone. He said, I needed to know you
know what to do with So I called him on
the phone and I said, do you ever think how
funny that line is? How else would you call him?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Like?
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Hi, you called him on the phone. But there was
a time when you'd go to the it was a
it was an ordeal. You'd have to get the white
pages out or the yellow pages that was for white people,
devermund So you'd have the white Pages and the Yellow
Pages and you'd look.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Up the number and you'd get there and it had
been marked or whatever.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
And you'd hear stories about businesses would go to the
public telephone and they would they would have it on
a on a thing like how you can't steal the
pen at stores and stuff they'd have it hooked so
you wouldn't steal their Yellow pages. And businesses would take
out their competitors' ads in the yellow page. They tear
them out so you couldn't you couldn't see them. Good
times that right there. But anyway, that that story was
(28:46):
about me bragging that Bob McDill knew.
Speaker 15 (28:49):
Who I was.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
In case you were wondering what that's what the point
of that story was. You know the point in your
life at which you decide I'm going to brag about
stuff that I'm proud of and you can choose whether.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
To like it or not.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Because I enjoy hearing stories where I'm the hero that
I tell the point at which you reached that and
stop worrying what other people think about you.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
You'll be a whole lot happier. I'm telling you.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
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Hey body notice that Sean Hannity says Berner. I wonder
if people hear him say that, but he does spell
it out.
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Speaker 8 (30:50):
I haven't seen Sean in a little while, but we're
going to be together in Palm Beach in early June,
and I am I'm going to do it. I'm gonna go, Sean.
I'm not making fun of you. I really want to
know if you realize you're saying Berner, and I guarantee
you he's going to go.
Speaker 15 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
He's from New York, so it's kind of a New
York thing. But I have decided that I'm going to
say it.
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We have a good relationship.
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It's not jocular the way it is with Ramon, where
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and it sounds like a phone that you know is
your secondary phone, like your Tiger Woods for.
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You side hustles, you side pieces. It's burn uh burn nuh, Sean.
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I can't do that, but I will go, Hey, I
just out of curious, you know you and I both
speak for burn uh you know burn uh is and
then see how he responds.
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I feel like there's somebody else and I'm forgetting, and
then they're going to be mad. By the way, I
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Both deeply invested in writing instruments, and I use a
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I write using as you probably know, I write using
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pencil because that's what my father used and he got
me using that from an early early age, and so
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I'm a partisan to the pentail P two o five
point five milimeter black with the silver trump However, I
use blue and red to mark things up when we're
on the show so things stick out. And then I
use a Sharpie brand highlighter and I use orange with
the smear guard because it sticks out the best. Needless
(32:48):
to say, we spend a lot of time talking about
writing instruments, and Ramone is always trying new writing instruments,
and it's sort of like me with cigars. I don't
like to try new stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I like to have my thing. I drink the same
bottle of red wine, I drink the same beer. I drink.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
I smoked the same cigar, and so I tell people,
don't don't give me anything other than what I do now.
I did try barre Fight whiskey because they asked me
to it.
Speaker 15 (33:11):
I love it.
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But anyway, I got to tell you about this pen.
It's it's made by Schneider. It's a point six milimeter.
This is the first one he's ever asked me to try.
It says one business own. It's made by Schneider s
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the finest writing instrument I've ever held in my hand
for less than one hundred dollars. And I when you write,
it doesn't smear, which is a big deal to me.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
This really is a This is a breakthrough ramon.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
It's a Schneider brand point six millimeter. He gave me
the blue and he's just ordered twelve more.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
This is really a game changer. This is huge. I'm
just gonna write stories right now. Ste I thought it
was a felt tip. I don't want a felt tip,
but I I thought it was. I said no, no,
but it's not. But it looks like a felt tip
What it's that time, time, time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Disturbing allegations about a Q sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and
members of his social circle. Those allegations come from newly
unsealed documents from a now settled court case against Epstein
associate Elaine Maxwell. A woman claims that Maxwell groomed her
to be a sex slave to Epstein and was trafficked
to some of his most powerful associates.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
As the training started. Immediately give Jeffrey what he wants.
A lot of this training came from gillin herself and
being a woman. It kind of surprises you that a
woman could actually let stuff like that happen, but not
only let it happen, but to groom into doing it.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
No one knows what it's like to behaved, to be faded,
to say, lies.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
Anti as my coship.
Speaker 8 (01:26):
See he's be he's power players a priority for us
right now?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Can we even touch them?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's like everything you know, it hides in planes side.
Epstein was hiding in plane side.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
We all knew about him, we all knew what he
was doing, but we had no one that would go
after him.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
The airplane that we flew on for this humanitarian mission
was owned by Jeffrey Epstein. And to then learn, oh,
he was actually on some of those flights, and this
Maxwell woman was on some of those flights. I didn't
know him. I've never spent any time with him. I
was with the Clinton Foundation people, That's who I was with.
Speaker 9 (02:10):
She told me everything, she had pictures, she had everything.
She was in hiding for twelve years. We convinced her
to come out. We convinced her to talk to us.
It was unbelievable what we had Clinton, We had everything.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Zamty.
Speaker 10 (02:29):
Asmuss to be There's no question executives at ABC protected
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Why do you think they did that?
Speaker 11 (02:40):
Well because their star anchor's name is George Stepanopolis, and
of course George Stepanopolis worked as Bill Clinton's communications director at.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
The White House.
Speaker 11 (02:49):
And when was all of this information being given to
Amy Orbach at ABC? When did she bring all of
this to her executives to say we should put this
on the air. Oh, right before a twenty sixteen president election,
when Hillary Clinton was running on the Democratic ticket.
Speaker 10 (03:03):
At the time, Amy Robach took this story to her
superiors and they said, I don't know who Jeffrey Epstein is.
His name was already all over the news. Is a
convicted sexophone.
Speaker 12 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (03:12):
One of the things you've been talking about on your
show is your allegation that government officials are aiding in pedaphelia,
child trafficking and.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
The green of Joe. All right, what do you mean,
like what?
Speaker 6 (03:27):
No one knows what it's like to be the bad man,
to be the.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Sad Every name released, one of them, and then I
want the prosecutions to begin. You ever noticed that when
an elected official gets in trouble, you know that they've
been caught with the goods dead to rights when they
(03:56):
the final step is Okay, I did it. I'll accept
my punishment. I'll resign. Nobody goes out to the plant
worker and see unit at DuPont and Orange and says, hey, Norman,
(04:17):
you've been stealing money from DuPont millions and millions of dollars.
You've killed five people, and you've covered all this stuff up.
We're going to put you in prison a long time.
We've got you here. It all is, We've got photographing okay.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
All right, you got me.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
I'll I'll leave my job here at DuPont, okay, and
then you just go do something else.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But it's as if if you're an elected official, you've.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
Always got this get out of jail free card.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Literally where man, I mean, they got it.
Speaker 14 (04:53):
They got to really really really really really have you
real bad and you go, all right, I'll step down,
and then the prosecutors go okay, and now it'll go away.
Speaker 8 (05:04):
But the guy that owns that the local burger joint
doesn't get that. Let's go to Blake, Blake black a Europe.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Hey, I think you als would call the new guy
commodore Kenda. Why it just has the ring to it.
You asked for the nickname for him. I thought good nickname, Blake. Yeah,
Commodore Kunda. I thought it was a good one. Not
gonna try again, Blake Anacunda.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
Yeah, why you couldn't bury the lead.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's ten times better than commodore Kunda. Did you just
come up with that on the fly? Yeah, because you
call me on the spot. Yeah, that was ten time.
That was good. That was good. It was really good.
All right? How old are you? Thirty one? Height, weight.
Speaker 15 (06:04):
Five ten and a half and I lay about two
fifteen two fifteen.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
Okay, Nanda, you don't have to add the half. You're
five to ten.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What you are.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You got any hair?
Speaker 16 (06:20):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
What color is it?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Brown?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Eye color?
Speaker 16 (06:28):
Yeow?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You married?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yes? There?
Speaker 8 (06:34):
Religious affiliation if any?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Church of Christ?
Speaker 17 (06:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, I don't have any music. Did you go to
Abiline Christian?
Speaker 14 (06:47):
Well?
Speaker 18 (06:47):
Party in?
Speaker 8 (06:47):
It was party in Arkansas? I had a classmate it
was Church of Christ. Went there'll be good school. What
do you do now?
Speaker 18 (06:55):
Well, I'm kind of the great jobs.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I used to be a teacher getting a lot of
guys on the side.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I can barely hear it, you.
Speaker 15 (07:08):
Blake, Well, I used to be a teacher on I
teach tennis on the side, and I'm working on getting
a tickleball certification. But I'm actually working for a more
stable day job in the meantime as well, because I
don't want to go back into teaching if I can
help it.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Were you teaching in school or just a tennis lesson instructor.
Speaker 15 (07:29):
In the school?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
How much you get per tennis lessons?
Speaker 15 (07:34):
Fifty dollars an hour?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And where were you teaching those? Some I'm on my
loan in Crosby.
Speaker 15 (07:43):
So I'm in my parents neighborhood in a task Casita
and some of the Eagle Point in mot Belview.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Where did you did you play high school? Did you
play college tennis?
Speaker 15 (07:55):
I chose not to play in college because there wasn't
a whole lot of money for it and it was
a big time.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Admit. I played for Summer Creek High School. How far
did you go?
Speaker 15 (08:07):
I just said number one varsity. We went to regionals once,
but I didn't get much farther than that.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
There's a lot of these pickleball bars popping up, and I,
you know, I don't know how I think.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think there's gonna be some money and pickleball lessons.
I really do that might be worth your time.
Speaker 17 (08:25):
And macuis doing Michael, I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Getting her off mom. My favorite chest a song forgive
me time. And I don't think you do something.
Speaker 19 (09:02):
I can't say today that I'm on right hurting by tone.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I don't think of something.
Speaker 19 (09:17):
I'll find so many things to do that I'm on
have the time to think of her, and then if
she's still on my mind, I've tried to drink and
to drown with her, and if on her.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
I don't think of something, you know, that's kind of
song where do I go for love? And I still
that vocal performance. You can't maintain that. Nobody can't, I
don't think. But that is the prettiest march. Yes, and
(10:00):
that's voice ever sounded. And and I would argue, there's
there's not There's only a handful of guys.
Speaker 12 (10:08):
Man.
Speaker 8 (10:08):
I can't see that could that can put on a
vocal performance like that. And well, I gotta get to
the calls.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You want to know.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
I know I said it, but I was I was talking. Okay,
you want to know how many? How many's on my list?
You want to know how many guys have delivered a
vocal performance like that in country music?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
How many? Seven? Okay? All right?
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Let mean mark out old boys numbers. He was thirty one,
five ten and a half, two fifteen, brown hair, brown eyes,
Church crisis.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's probably it.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
In between jobs, Tennis instructor, Eagle point uh Top seven
vocal performances in country music. I'm gonna go with I
gotta write these down so I keep the list. I'm
gonna go with Don Gibson. I'm gonna go with Verne Gosden.
Some jackassid doesn't know country music and popped up two
years ago and go.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Can you kiss me? Kenny? Kiss me?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
No?
Speaker 16 (11:00):
Can you?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Chesty? Can't be on any list except gay. That's it.
You don't put him on any other list.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Okay, I'm the only guy I know that can get
aggravated over a hypothetical conversation.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's that's a sign of insanity. That's not normal. Okay.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
I got Don Gibson, I got Burn Gosden, I've got
George Jones, I've got etc. Because Earl Thomas Connley, Earl
Thomas Connley in Once in a Blue Moon is one
of the great vocal performances in all of music, across
every language. And I've literally heard every language in the
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history of an aramaic, all of it. Okay, so I
got Don Gibson, Burn Gosden, George Jones, etc.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I'm gonna put Merle on there.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Merle Haggard has to be on there. Man, I'm gonna
taste something. It's gonna surprise you. I'm at five, so
I got two more. I'm gonna put Dac David allen
Coe in Jody like a Melody is as pretty you
don't think of David. You think of David Allen co
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dropping in bombs, death, row cussing, fighting motorcycle gangs. But
I'm gonna tell you this, that is as fine a
vocal performance. Now, don't confuse good song with vocal performance.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
What about that? What the fellow who killed it? What
are you telling me? Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Johnny Ace, you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Yeah, he was at the children's he was at the
youth correctional facility, and uh, you know this is my story.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Stop all right? So I got Don Gibson verned guys.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Oh, oh, it's gonna surprise you, but it's what came
to mind. It's gonna surprise you.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I don't want to.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
I know y'all are out there going George, George straight,
George straight, and maybe it should be, maybe it should be.
But I'm gonna tell you who deserves to be at
least in the top ten if he can't make the
top seven.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Sammy Kershaw, Sammy Kershaw.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
I'm gonna put sk right there, and I'm gonna put
King George over here to the side. You know, my
favorite George Jones song, oddly enough, was way past his prime.
Troubadour Troubadour is. He didn't write it, He didn't write
hardly anything, but it's a song that was so perfect
for Oh no, no, sorry, I got I gotta take
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Kershaw off. It just popped in my head because I
thought about him Don Williams. I got to put the
general giant on there. In terms of a vocal performance,
you don't have to over sing a song to provide
a beautiful vote. Oh shoot, I gotta take the I
gotta take d A c Off. I gotta take d
ac off, and I gotta put Randy Travis. Let me
tell you something right now, and I will fight anybody
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over this. Randy Trivittandy Travis had as beautiful a voice
as country music has ever known. And please, please don't,
please don't embarrass yourself by sending me an email with
well by haink Sr. You don't even know who Hank
Senior is. You just heard from people that you're supposed
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to like. It's what Ramone does. That's exactly what Ramond does.
He tells you things that are great because in order
to be part of the smart set, you're supposed to
like that. And then there's this, you know it's it's
like this stupid uh is uh? What's that Mel Gibson
movie I haven't bothered to watch?
Speaker 17 (14:35):
Is?
Speaker 16 (14:35):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Uh with with the Danny Glover? Is it the Christi
Mush movie? And then they oh, diehard. Yeah, we're on
the inside. We produced your conversation that do people have?
It are sport, but it's not.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
It's a conversation that people have because they haven't had
an independent thought in their head ever. All right, that's
my list for now. I got Don Gibson, Verne Gosden. Uh,
you pissed me off.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'm a put Oh.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Oh, I gotta take somebody off to put Mickey Gilly
on there. And you know what's crazy about that? You're
gonna say, Oh, that's because Mickey Gilly is your friend.
Mickey Gilly's voice, Uh, kill me up? Room full of roses?
And plus you got you got the piano.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean let me put yeah, write him down? Whose
version Mickey Gilly's Room full of Roses? He wrote it?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You pull?
Speaker 19 (15:24):
If I sent a rose to oh, come on now
have every time you made you mean.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
What happened Mickey? What would happen?
Speaker 15 (15:33):
You?
Speaker 12 (15:33):
Hell? Hello?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Rose had divine Ricky didn't write every time I cried.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Over room, you just reprised said listen to hand it
by tut battles a ta oh.
Speaker 14 (16:09):
Imitary.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I've put Mickey in my top seven, So who am
I going to take off? I can't take off George Jones.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
There's some about vocal performances, and I mean his his
one of the most distinctive voice in all the country.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I didn't say it take Mickey. You can't take George off?
And Michael Arry show.
Speaker 12 (16:33):
Where that say over? You can lie up the dull
guys a good day.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Explain but here and you don't.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
See is this a little passive aggressive of it by
youth to suggest.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Be let me explain to you. I will explain to
everybody else.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
How come, Keith Whitley, how can you have a top seven?
Keith Whitley? Ain't on him because it's not a top twenty.
You got to take one of these off. We'll take
Don Gibson off? Why because you literally don't know one
song he sings. No, I'm not doing that, not until
you go study Don Gibson. Well, who's the other one?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Vern Gosden?
Speaker 8 (17:26):
Take him off again? You're talking about things you don't
know what you're talking about. Jim ed Brown's voices is
prettiest Keith Whitley, and I didn't even bring him up.
Ed Bruce, is this prettiest Keith Whitley, and I didn't
bring him up. The point of a top seven is
you got to make tough decisions from mong You gotta
make tough decisions in life. And yes, Conway is in
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the conversation, but I'm not putting Conway above Don Gibson,
Vern Goston or George Jones or Andy Travis or Don
Williams in terms of just a beautiful voice. And I
love Conway probably more than anybody has ever loved Conway.
I love Harold Jenkins aka Conway since nineteen fifty nine
when he first hit big with its only make believe, Tony,
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are we doing to take one?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Take one off?
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Put one on?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We didn't even announce it, And everybody's on the line
for that. All right, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
Yeah, take off VTC and put on Kenny Rogers, No way,
Kitty Rodgers. Not a great vocalist. Kenny Rodgers many many
many things, many many things is Kenny. But a great
vocalist is not Kenny Rodgers is not in the top thirty.
Kenny Rogers is not in the top fifty.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
No, he does have a distinctive voice, but not a
great voice.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
He's not His voice is not an instrument of beauty.
It's a good voice, it's not even a great voice.
And we're certainly not taking off etc. To put Kenny
on there. And I love Kenny. You can like somebody.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Look, I really enjoyed talking to David Klingler yesterday. Teach
me the Bible dot com. That's the podcast in the website.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
But I'm not I'm going to tell you he's the
greatest quarterback to ever play quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals,
just because I like the guy and he wouldn't want
me to. That honor goes to Kenny Anderson period. Next question,
sid you're only Michael berry Shaw.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Michael, I'm not versed in country music, but I do
have one. I don't think you guys rounded out the
rock tunes yesterday, the seventh one. Here's one for you,
A deep purple Smoke on the Water.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
Okay, but I want you to understand what the category was,
and let's see if you still want to submit that.
The category was not seven greatest rock songs, although it
might have appeared to be the case.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It was songs that are that are epic, truly epic,
and I.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
Use that word sparingly, truly epic, songs that you've heard
so many times that you you don't think of them,
you don't remember to list them, you don't ever go
to actively listen to it, because you've heard it so
many times it feels trite, and then there it comes.
I mean, you hear that opening of a hotel California,
you go, oh crap, I forgot how much I like
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this song. So no, I can't put that. That's no, no, no,
it's said, it doesn't it doesn't. Uh, Doug, you're up,
called Doug, I thank you. Really.
Speaker 18 (20:20):
I have to admit I like Keith Whitley and I
I heard your disagreement on that, but you also miss
Merle Hackard did not have Meryl.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
I got him number five on my list right here.
I got Don Gibson, Verba Austin, George Jones, E, TC,
Merle Haggard, Randy Travis.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Don Willis. I'm getting old. I guess my hearing's going well,
it's okay. I was bouncing around but.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
I didn't want to put Merle on there, if I
can be completely honest, and the reason is, Merle Haggard
is the most complete country music singer. He's a five
tool player. He's that Japanese dude gambles and blames it
on his trainer in Los Angeles? Was it sho hee Otani?
Is that his name?
Speaker 12 (21:03):
Ramon?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That dude?
Speaker 16 (21:06):
That dude.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
I mean, if he stays healthy and he stays motivated,
that guy could I mean, he he could set records
that haven't been seen since Babe Ruth because of the
combo of the hitting and pitching.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Anyway, Uh, what did he just say?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
The thing about Merle Haggard is he's a five to
a player.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
He's he's one of the greatest songwriters of all time
and the only guy who's in the top twenty all
time as country music artist who is also a great songwriter.
The only two guys, sorry, the only three guys sorry,
would be David Allen, Coo Whalon and Willie Like Tom
Paul is not a great singer, you give me great
(21:51):
But anyway, I don't don't get off on that. But
I didn't want to put me on there because I
think of Merle primarily as a great songwriter who's also
a great singer, And I didn't want it. This was
about vocal performances. There are guys who are just an
incredible voice. For instance, Alan Jackson. I'm not an Alan
Jackson fan. I don't need to hear that you are.
(22:13):
The Chattahoochee song, in my opinion, is stupid, stupid.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's cheap and cheesy and and plays to the lowest
common denominator. But remember When.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
Remember When is one of the most beautiful country songs
of all time.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It's up there with Keeper of the Stars. In fact,
it's actually a prettier.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Song structurally and and in execution. It's an absolutely glorious song.
Uh you know who else I didn't put up here
because I did it on the fly. John Henderson. Now
he's not going in the top seven, but I'm gonna
tell you this, John Henderson's gonna be in the top twenty.
And we're gonna we're gonna do swinging, and we're gonna
do chicken truck.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Chicken truck.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
I mean, it's the That is the single greatest song
about a chicken truck ever ever written or sang. Let's
go Bill, who's eighty one going on eighty two?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Bill?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You're up? Bill dropped? Okay, Well maybe he won't make
Adie two when she'll drop.
Speaker 18 (23:10):
Maybe he got my eighty ad on fired up here.
First he was talking about Epstein. Now country music and
out of storyteller, So I don't know where to start.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Just do the country music. We'll have to tell you
hear about Epstein tomorrow.
Speaker 18 (23:20):
Well it died in two thousand, But Cody Jenks and
Clint Black singing nothing's news. When Clint Black comes in
with his part, he sounds the best he's ever sounded.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
And that is saying something because Clint Black, you know,
there is a whole I was driving back from San
Antone last night with a buddy of mine, Michael Robinson,
and he is he is for a young guy.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
He's only like forty five for a young guy.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
He has a keen appreciation for classic country, and he
made some stupid statements I had to correct him on.
But pretty much he's got a good head on his shoulder,
considering that he learned at the foot of his father.
But you know, all the music that we're talking about
was before he was born, so he didn't he didn't
know what he's talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
He just what he's been told, but pretty good.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
And we were talking about the the neo classical movement
and and that is, you know, early to mid eighties
and really picks up in Earnest and that is is uh,
George Strait is kind of the you know, on the
front end of that.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
But Earl Thomas Connelly was huge as that.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
And then you've got Alan Jackson and Blake Shelton comes
along about the time that that Tracy Bird does, and
Mark Chestnut.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And Clint Black and and those guys are I mean,
you talk about pure, beautiful.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
Traditional kind of Ed Bruce style classic country voices. That's
a that's a beautiful that's a great time in country music.
Speaker 16 (25:04):
When I was a kid, Uncle riam and supperbed me
to bed with a picture of stone walled Jackson above
my head. Then Daddy came in to kiss his little man,
(25:27):
with gin on his breath and a Bible in his hand.
He talked about honor and things I shouldn't know. Then
he staggered little as he went out the door. I
can still hear the soft southern winds and the live old.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Trees and those Williams boys.
Speaker 16 (25:53):
They still mean a lot to me. Hain't him Tennessee,
I guess swell.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So dude, the good old boys. Like one of the
great honors of my life.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Was I wanted to track down Bob McDill who wrote
that song, so many of Don Williams's best songs.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And he was from Beaumont. Uh I think he was from.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
Screen starts with a sea right outside of Beaumont.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Not Camden on the water, Camden on the lake. But
what's it called, uh, Conroe, It's like April sounding. He said.
It was used to play tennis. There a guy named
any One. He was a Ruben.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Darn it.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
I can't remember what the call, but anyway, that's where
he was from. And I got an email from somebody
who was a listener who said, Bob mcdillan knows who
you are.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He's a fan, and he would welcome your call. He
authorized me to give you his number. I was like,
there's no way he lives in Nashville.
Speaker 8 (27:21):
We were on in Nashville. There's no way he's listening
to me. And I called and it rang about eight
times because old people still have landlines, so you just
let it ring.
Speaker 15 (27:32):
For you.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Remember the old days, you.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Go, hey, get the phone, and everybody would argue because
nobody wanted to get the phone. Like you would go
an entire day without talking to somebody on the phone.
That's so crazy to think there would be an entire
day that would go by. You didn't think anything of it.
You didn't call anybody, and nobody called you. Michael Robinson
made a line yesterday he said, Uh, I called him
(27:55):
on the phone. He said, I needed to know you
know what to do with So I called him on
the phone and I said, do you ever think how
funny that line is? How else would you call him?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Like?
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Hi, you called him on the phone. But there was
a time when you'd go to the it was a
it was an ordeal. You'd have to get the white
pages out or the yellow pages that was for white people,
devermund So you'd have the white Pages and the Yellow
Pages and you'd look.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Up the number and you'd get there and it had
been marked or whatever.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
And you'd hear stories about businesses would go to the
public telephone and they would they would have it on
a on a thing like how you can't steal the
pen at stores and stuff they'd have it hooked so
you wouldn't steal their Yellow pages. And businesses would take
out their competitors' ads in the yellow page. They tear
them out so you couldn't you couldn't see them. Good
times that right there. But anyway, that that story was
(28:46):
about me bragging that Bob McDill knew.
Speaker 15 (28:49):
Who I was.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
In case you were wondering what that's what the point
of that story was. You know the point in your
life at which you decide I'm going to brag about
stuff that I'm proud of and you can choose whether.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
To like it or not.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Because I enjoy hearing stories where I'm the hero that
I tell the point at which you reached that and
stop worrying what other people think about you.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
You'll be a whole lot happier. I'm telling you.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Speaking of Happy Happy birthday to our friend Jason Mullen.
Jason Mullen owns top tax Defenders dot com. And they're
the people that when you get a letter from the irs,
they're the people who go to bat for you. And
we've had people I had I had a gathering of
people who had used Top Tax Defenders on our recommendation
(29:34):
and fought the IRS and won.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
There was a guy who had a six that IRS
said they that he owed.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Six hundred thousand, six hundred twenty nine thousand for weird
memory for numbers, and they knocked it down to nothing
because it was an interpretation on a ruling and they
were right. There was another guy that the IRS said
he owed over eight hundred thousand, and they knocked it
all the way down to forty. Anyway, Jason Mullen, it
(30:02):
has been a show sponsor of our show Top Tax
Defenders dot Com for years and then when we went
national October seventh, or when we went into syndication with Premiere,
the same group that syndicated Rush, they were there were
three companies that immediately said in Houston that immediately said
(30:23):
we want a sponsor, because it's a separate deal in
sponsoring us in Houston, we want to sponsor him on
Premiere and that was US COINS Top Tax Defenders, and
well Berner because Berna was already on.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
With us in Houston for the for the launchers.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Hey body notice that Sean Hannity says Berner. I wonder
if people hear him say that, but he does spell
it out.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
B Y r n A.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
I haven't seen Sean in a little while, but we're
going to be together in Palm Beach in early June,
and I am I'm going to do it. I'm gonna go, Sean.
I'm not making fun of you. I really want to
know if you realize you're saying Berner, and I guarantee
you he's going to go.
Speaker 15 (31:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:04):
He's from New York, so it's kind of a New
York thing. But I have decided that I'm going to
say it.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
We have a good relationship.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
It's not jocular the way it is with Ramon, where
I can go, Hey, your dumb ass, You're saying burner
and it sounds like a phone that you know is
your secondary phone, like your Tiger Woods for.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
You side hustles, you side pieces. It's burn uh burn nuh, Sean.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
I can't do that, but I will go, Hey, I
just out of curious, you know you and I both
speak for burn uh you know burn uh is and
then see how he responds.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
We'll see anyway.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Happy birthday to Jason Mullen today Top tax Defenders dot
com am I forgetting somebody else that went national with
us on day one us coin uh huh us coins.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Top tax defenders.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
I feel like there's somebody else and I'm forgetting, and
then they're going to be mad. By the way, I
just had a life changing experience.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Ramone and I are.
Speaker 8 (32:02):
Both deeply invested in writing instruments, and I use a
blue and a red because everything is printed out in black.
I write using as you probably know, I write using
a pintel point five millimeter P two o five mechanical
pencil because that's what my father used and he got
me using that from an early early age, and so
(32:25):
I'm a partisan to the pentail P two o five
point five milimeter black with the silver trump However, I
use blue and red to mark things up when we're
on the show so things stick out. And then I
use a Sharpie brand highlighter and I use orange with
the smear guard because it sticks out the best. Needless
(32:48):
to say, we spend a lot of time talking about
writing instruments, and Ramone is always trying new writing instruments,
and it's sort of like me with cigars. I don't
like to try new stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I like to have my thing. I drink the same
bottle of red wine, I drink the same beer. I drink.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
I smoked the same cigar, and so I tell people,
don't don't give me anything other than what I do now.
I did try barre Fight whiskey because they asked me
to it.
Speaker 15 (33:11):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
But anyway, I got to tell you about this pen.
It's it's made by Schneider. It's a point six milimeter.
This is the first one he's ever asked me to try.
It says one business own. It's made by Schneider s
C H N E I D E R. It says
point six millimeter for it says four documents. This is
(33:31):
the finest writing instrument I've ever held in my hand
for less than one hundred dollars. And I when you write,
it doesn't smear, which is a big deal to me.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
This really is a This is a breakthrough ramon.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
It's a Schneider brand point six millimeter. He gave me
the blue and he's just ordered twelve more.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
This is really a game changer. This is huge. I'm
just gonna write stories right now. Ste I thought it
was a felt tip. I don't want a felt tip,
but I I thought it was. I said no, no,
but it's not. But it looks like a felt tip
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