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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Luck and load.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
So Michael Varry Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Jim Mudd is a big fan of the Office. I
never watched, by the way, I never watched the Sopranos Seinfeld.
There's a lot that I've never watched even one episode of,
and it's not something to brag about. I just never
did network TV after about the Dukes of Hazzard or
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so when I when I left home from when I
left home to go to college, I don't think I
ever watched another network regularly scheduled network TV show in
our home. You know, Thursday night you had. I always
thought Falcon Crest was stupid, but you had. I think
(01:17):
Dallas was on Thursday night NTS Landing. We didn't do
Notts Landing either. That that was rich people shows, and
my dad didn't like rich people. That's probably Republican shows.
We weren't going to watch that kind of stuff. But
somehow Dallas wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I don't know how that one slipped through, but we
watched my brother in law, I think it was my
brother and I I think it was Thursday Nights. Uh
was greatest American hero that was a good song. Sing
along with me, believe it or not, walk in on
it and he and I when when the music would start,
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you know, because you'd be doing your homework and stuff
in one.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Or the other of us we go.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You hear that song start, you'd get get a running start,
run getting your bean bag with a yellow bean bag
in an orange.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Bean bag, put them right in front of the TV man.
That's big time.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Logo.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
What's happened to me?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Maybe scoop out some bluebellt ice cream, believed myself.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh, we had good times. We didn't have any bluebellt
ice cream because Walgreens didn't have it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
On sale, because they'd do, like back in those days,
two for three dollars. Remember when I came to Houston,
you'd get two for five dollars. And if we didn't
have that, there was always malted milk, carnation malted milk.
You just put a little milk in with that. You
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got a malt on your hands. If we didn't have that,
get some tostitos out and shave some cheese. This was
before you could buy shredded cheese. I remember, I remember
the first time I ever saw shredded cheese and somebody's fridge,
and thinking, man, how come they hadn't thought of that
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till now, all the time I spent, all the times
I nicked my finger, And now you can just buy
it shredded because they got an industrial facility.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
They can cut that stuff up, make it real easy.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But we'd put a little lump of cheese on each
one of our tostitos, and then we ate our meals
out of a white paper plate and then the brown
woven did y'all have that the brown that it would
fit down in there?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Man, that's that's perfect because then when you're done, you
just throw your paper away and then you put that
brown woven thing. Have you ever owned a nice set
of dishes?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Me?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Neither. You know, when we got married, I was young.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Nothing's family wasn't here, so you know, it was just us,
and we didn't want to burden either one of our parents,
so we didn't do all the stuff people normally do.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But people that I knew, I mean, I can remember.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Being thirty years old. We'd go to a dinner party
at somebody's house and they'd have really nice china in
a china cabinet. That stuff's expensive, I mean, really expensive,
and I can remember saying to people, you know, well,
where did you get this? I'm trying to think of
the names of that stuff, Jasper were or whatever they could.
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There's there's what's the one out of England that that
that's the big deal to have and it would be
one of two ways, either that their grandmother they'd inherited
it from their grandmother because she'd had a set or
at their at their shower. But we didn't do all that.
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So these these well to do river Oaks West Side
families there would be a grandmother or an aunt or
someone or that they'd pitch in together and they by
really expensive silverware and serving dishes and plates and all
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that sort of stuff. And that's fine. But my problem
when you go to a party and they do that
is now I gotta worry. I don't chip the plate,
drop the plate, bang the plate. The good news with
that little brown thatched thing and a piece of white
paper on top of it. Man, you don't have to
worry about anything. And you know, we have very basic
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plates probably I don't know where we got Craton barrel
twenty years ago or something, and people laugh at me
because it's just not something that matters to me. It's
not something that matters to my wife. And she found
a few years ago these bamboo plates. You seen them
at my house, these bamboo plates, and it's like that
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white paper plate thing. You think it's about that thick,
but it's enough to hold your food on it. And
I don't know how much they are a piece. I'm
going to make up a number. It's less than a
dollar apiece. They're not nothing. They're more than that white
paper plate. But let's say they're fifty cents. So if
it's a night that you don't feel like doing the dishes,
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you can throw them away. You rather wash them, but
you could throw them away. And they got a whole
set of those, and we probably have two hundred of
those in a cabinet that if we're around the house
and nobody's over, or if we have a big group,
or if now Michael's friends aren't coming over because Michael's
in college, but if Crockett's friends come over, then we'll
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we pull that out because they're kids, you know, they
don't they don't care. Ramon, you did not get one
call on the Colts anyway. Jim's favorite character was Creed
Bratton on the office, and this is his line.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I've been involved in a number of colts, both as
a leader and a follower.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You have more fun as a follower, but can make
more money as a leader.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't know why I'm not the only one.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Because I see a if I get a Netflix Prime YouTube,
if I get something on some cult leader, I'm watching it.
I mean it is I don't know why I've watched more.
I know more about Jim Jones than a person ought
to know. That is not useful information that I can monetize.
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It's not useful information that makes me better. It's not
useful information it makes me more interesting. I mean, I
know the name of the congressman that's the only congressman
that's ever been assassinated, and he was out at the
plane leaving when they went out and shot him and
Jim Ryan Because why why do I know this? Because
I've watched too many documentaries on cults. I don't know why.
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And you know who I find the least interesting of
all cults. Oddly enough, Helter Skelter. I find Manson to
be the least interesting of them all.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I really was hoping we'd get a cult member or
at least a family member. I did have a few
people email from Amway. I did have a few people
email from the Mormon about Mormons. You know, now you've
got a thing going on now when somebody leaves the
Mormon church.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
There, I get it all the time. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
People think I'm anti Mormon or something. I really don't care.
You know, some people get mad that you even call
him Mormon. Remember I asked the question if Mitt Romney
could get elected because he was Mormon, and I got
national criticism. I received an email, I'm a lady that says, Czar,
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today is my ninetieth birthday. I would appreciate it if
you could just wish me a happy birthday on your show.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's all I want. I love how you have such
respect for senior people. She means old people.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Thank you, Belvi, Landry, well, Belvi. I appreciate the request,
but I cannot do it. If I were to say
happy birthday, Belvi, Landry, happy ninetieth birthday, then I would
be overwhelmed with birthday requests. And it's not that I
even mind what happens. Is I get busy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I got papers all over the.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Place, and then I forget, and then people get upset,
and I get mad that they're upset, and then here
we are, and I've learned it's just easier. Roy Belvi Landry.
We'mon ninety years old today. Roy Chance sent me, uh No,
I talked to him.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I talked to him.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
This was two nights ago, and he said a lady
listener of ours had called him and they're trying to
talk their one hundred year old mother to do a
heritage film, no knotsky diet, and apparently she.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Is a hoot. And he's really really rooting for this one.
He's hoping this one comes through Roy right. Zar.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
When we got our first microwave, we discovered nachos. We
would slap cheese whiz on top of Doritos and microwave
those bad boys. I'd get through different strokes, good times
and Sanford and Son in one sitting on those nachos. Sean,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What say you, sir?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
How do you do? Mister Barry?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Good? What you got?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
It's kind of weird listening to you out here. I'm
about fifty miles out or doing a delivery, and I
just happened to catch you on seven ninety and I
heard you talking about Colts. I saw a cult movie,
a cult film documentary about David Koresh, and the one
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weird thing I saw was that none of Koresh's people
were Americans. They were all either foreigners or from overseas.
I didn't know if you realized that.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Well, that's not true, first of all, and.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
This is one of the times I'm going to pull
rank because of a vast expanse of knowledge.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
On this stupid issue. But I'm mildly obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
There were a number of Englishmen, there were a number
of Australians. But I've seen interviews with too many of
the people who were there, and I can tell you
their accents that they were. They were clearly American. You know,
the way he took over that cult is a study
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in and of itself. He that cult existed long before him.
He's not the founder of that cult. He came in
and weaseled his way into the top of it, and
then and then they kind of broke off.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, it's it's it's an interesting deal. I Dick de
Garrett is a friend of mine and he's he's an
amazing lawyer, and he's had some amazing cases. And Dick
de Garrett is the guy you'll remember the lawyer who
went up to the door and went inside and talked
to him and came out. They were trying to negotiate
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an end to all of this and the story he told,
I mean talk about song Freud. This guy is walking
into the house. He could get shot from inside, he
gets shot from outside, and he said he was more
worried defense we're gonna shoot him that than that.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Carescious people were.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And anyway, he has some really I'll see if I
can dig that that interview up, that that discussion, because
he had some very interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Perspectives on that. Let's go to Rob i'b you on
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Go ahead, Hey, Michael, Hey, I just wanted to call in.
I heard you speaking about cults and that sort of thing.
And I was part of a cult with my brother's
sister and mother. It came to be we were originally
I was born up north in New Jersey, and my
parents were divorced at a young age, probably about four
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or five years old, and so of course we lived
with our mom. We didn't see our dad too often,
but she we you know, we went to church every Sunday.
I was baptized in an Episcopalian church, and we started
going to these Bible meetings and it was kind of
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for parents without partners, like single moms and that sort
of thing. And she ran into a group of people
and we started having these Bible meetings at a one
of the people's houses of this small group, and they
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were in the process of getting a church together. And
so there was about maybe six to eight families involved,
and there were husband and wives with children, and there
were a few single moms with kids, and everybody sold
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everything they had, sold their houses, sold their cars, and
put all their money into this church. And the whole
group moved from New Jersey. Now there was people from
other parts of the country, but it started in that
area and ended up renting a property over in Carmene, Texas.
It was about two hundred and fifty acres and there
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was like a warehouse built in a main house and
then like a born area excuse me, they it was
kind of like a Christian based type of church. Was
called the Covenant of Restoration Church. And the guy that
started him and his wife and then the wife's sister
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and her husband were kind of starting the whole thing.
We and of course, you know, moving from up there
down to Texas, we were kind of excited. We did
take a trip down here in the late sixties to
meet with everybody, and then we went back home and
then ended up driving down in a caravan with a
group of some of the church members. So as this
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whole thing progressed, they were had they would have nightly meetings.
They would go through a process of you'd beat uh
called out to confess your sins, and then they'd go
through what they called a travailing process, which you'd beat
a pillow to get your anger out, to repent of
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your sins, that sort of thing. And as this went on,
it became more violent. Whereas they started beating the children
call on just mid day.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I think we might have opened the floodgates on the
cuffs coming in. All right, we're talking about cults.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But first, my friend, the Aggie plumber Michael Robinson, lives
out in College Station and sends me an email with
a link to a Facebook post. He thought it was
next door, but I guess it's a Facebook post. And
a fellow named Ken Poonish had written this. He said,
I'm always willing to try and help someone who is
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young and hard working try to start their own business.
So if you need any pressure washing work done, let
me recommend a young man to you. He came by
yesterday and did my driveway, which had never been professional
clean since the house was built in two thousand and three.
There's nothing nicer than when you when you get a
nice pressure wash on a driveway.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He did.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
That's a very very white experience. That's that's the kind
of thing that white people love.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I love, love, love.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
To see us driveway after it's been pressure washed, even
if it's somebody else's.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He did very nice work.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And I would like to say at a good price,
but I don't know, since I've never paid to have
my driveway cleaned. So he's he not over promising. I mean,
this guy might be he doesn't know the market right,
but he's saying I like this this fella. He did
some good work. I like the price.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But you know, hey, I know how y'all are y'all
love to go? No, no, I come out.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know he's he's getting ready. He charged one hundred
dollars to do the driveway and sidewalk. Mistake fella, mistake
ken ponish. Because there's there's people out there on Facebook
that are miserable, I mean miserable SAPs. They're eating their
stove for they hadn't had a home cooked meal. They
haven't had they haven't held a woman in thirty years.
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They are a sad sack. But they got that Internet
connection by God, and they're on there. And whatever you post.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
If you say I bought something nice and it's ten dollars,
I got it for nine.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Oh okay, you you must be a barrel of laughs,
a whole lot of fun anyway, so he gives the price.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But here's the part that had me. You're ready. Just
a heads up. He's a very nice guy and very respectful,
but he is also can you guess what he is?
How would he know if he's home? No, that's not
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he might be I don't know. Huh what do you
think it is? Why would you say black? On on Earth?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Would it be black? Just a heads up. He is
very nice and very respectful, but he is also.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Why would it be Mexican? If he's Mexican, you'd assume
he's Mexican. Ooh not Mormon. If Mormons come to your
house and knock on the door, it is not to
pressure wash your house.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That'd be nice if.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It was.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You whose Mormon is Ken Jennings.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know, Mormons have the highest per capita income of
any religious affiliation in the country. And the good thing
about Mormons, unlike some people, is when you brag on
Mormons how successful they are, they don't get mad. You go,
you know, your people are gonna take over the world,
y'all control everything.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
They don't go raw, don't say that, they go, that's
very nice of you. It's it's yeah, that's that's wow.
Thank you. Justin heads up. He's very nice and very respectful.
But he is also so.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
A very large young man. It kind of gets your attention.
So I had to ask. He said he was six
nine and weighs four hundred pounds, so kind of a
gentle giant. So if you need anything picked up moved,
he might be willing to help you with that too.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Now, what would make you think he wants to do
your moving just because he's a big old boy.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
See, that's why you want to be a little fellow
Like Ah, I got this guy. He's a pressure washer.
He's really good. His price as good as a young man.
I'd like to help him out, but he's built like
Kat Williams, so he's probably not gonna be able to
help much. And then there it is Country Power Cleaning
eight three oh seven four three eighty eight ninety one
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says power washed driveways, fence, walkway porches, concrete free estimates,
military and seniors discount. He's got it all, Country Power Cleaners.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's called now you.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Go eight three oh seven four three eighty eight ninety one.
Jack Gantcy is that fella's name, gentle giant? Six nine
four hundred pounds. I'm glad he told that. Can you imagine? Oh, well,
you know, ponies?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He good.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
He good guy, keeps his yard mowed down and keeps
washes his car every Saturday, gets up, washes his car,
moses grass.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
He don't watch Cotege football. I don't trust the guy
doesn't do that.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
He'll get up under the eves, you know, and and
and clean that out. He's, uh yeah, he'll he'll touch
up as he he's a good neighbor.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
He's he's a good neighbor, look after you stuff. You know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
He doesn't let his newspaper sit out in the driveway
like grives me crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
For you.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
If he's going out of town, he calls and cancels
it because I can't stand that newspaper piling up. It
just runs down the neighborhood. Everything always looks nice, you know.
He uh, he get he does the armor ale on
the tires and the whole thing. I mean, he takes
care of his stuff, you know what I mean. He
takes care of his stuff. Garage door comes open. He uh,
he parks into garage like you're supposed to do. Garage
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door comes open. You look in there. He's got his
stuff labeled and and and nice. I think he had
that sunflower floor coating come in and do the flooring
and all. He's got everything organized. He's got the stuff
hanging on the wall, that stuff piled up.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And uh. Yeah, he's a he's a nice fellow. He's
he's he's a good good guy.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, old Ken Ponish. But he didn't tell me the
guy was gonna be six nine four pounds.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
That's a big fella rut there. That guy comes walking
up your driveway, you.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Better hope he's carrying a pressure washer, because that'd take
a few shots to take him down.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Old boys, twenty five piece shooter wouldn't get that. Yeah,
I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Little peace shooter would would take this this big, gentle
giant down. Let's go, oh, Rob, I didn't get to
the end of the travailing wrap me up there.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, that was something that we did at every Bible meeting,
and everybody had a pillow and you'd beat the pillow to,
you know, get your anger out and show some sort
of repentance of what you you know, confess to. And
you know, a lot of the kids, me included, didn't
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understand a lot of the things that we were supposed
to confess confess to. You know, we just didn't understand this.
It was like an Old Testament fire and brimstone. You know,
if you don't confess every sin or every bad thought
you ever had, you were gonna get struck down dead.
And at one point they had a little prayer room
off to the side with like a little makeshift altar,
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and you go in there and talk to two of
the head people, and that's literally what they told me.
At one point. Of course, I'm shaking like a leaf,
you know, I'm like, Holy crap I'm gonna get, you know,
struck down and by lightning and died because I didn't
tell them every bad thought or every bad thing I've
ever done in my life up until that point. So
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and it, you know, to be very scary, and most
of the adults were brainwashed to believe that everything was happening.
Was you know, that this was all the right thing
to do. You know, they quote certain verses out of
the Bible, and it just got to be more violent
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as the weeks went by. They at one point they
shaved my head and I had to fast for a
week and stay out of school for a week and
dig this ditch to repent for the things that I did.
I literally had no food or water for a week.
Now during that time, I snuck some food in the
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middle of the night, and of course I got caught.
They beat me for it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Are you sure this wasn't just pinnecost.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Because I'm gonna tell you, I grew up in a
community of post There were probably more Pentecostals, we call
them Pennies. There were probably more Pennies my school. Then
there were Southern Baptists, and we were the second biggest.
But they man some of those parents. They were hard
on their kids. I mean hard on them. But let
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me tell you something. You get you one in Penny Girls,
she's about sophomore junior year. She's ready to start putting
makeup on and stop wearing the sister wife outfit. Them
girls are going crazy over they make up for lost time.
See Fox is showing it on continuous loop. A mother
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who is walking in to identify her child who's been killed,
and her legs buckle and she's doing the ugly cry.
Her face is so contorted, and there's a trooper walking
beside her trying to hold her up. He doesn't expect
her to collapse. It's getting worse and worse and worse
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than boom, and they're showing it on loop. How dead
inside do you have to be to go?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Oh? Cut to camera three. Yeah, we got that woman
collapsing over there. That's the mother of one of the
dead kids. How sick do you have to be?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I read something somebody wrote yesterday. It said, dear media,
parking cameras outside of school after a mass shooting to
film crying kids. It's not journalism, it's grief porn. Tell
the story without exploiting the victims. The story is the shooting.
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Let those kids leave with dignity. News isn't therapy voyeurism.
And I thought, damn, that's pretty deep. That must be
somebody pretty deep. And then I look over at the
Twitter handle. It's ramon, who'd you steal that from? I
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mean that that is a succinct statement that gets to
the heart of the matter. Dear media, parking camera's outside
of school after a mass shooting to film crying kids
is not journalism, it's grief porn. Tell the story without
exploiting the victims. The story is the shooting. Let those
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kids leave with dignity. News isn't therapy voyeurism. You got
thesaurus out.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
On that one, Richard. What you got?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, hey, Yazar, I got a double. I got a
plate story and a cold story all on one. So
my wife in the mid the mid eighties, when she
was in high school, she tried to figure out what
place in glass is she gonna take the to go
to college. Well her her mom said, Hey, go to
Diamond Champra Shymerock, and every time you fill up, you
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get a stamp, a little green stamp. She saves. I
guess she got enough gas. She got a whole plate, said,
and these plates we still have. I don't know what
kind of steel were, mortar stoneware. They're made at them,
but they're like made out of the same stuff that
Captain America shield is made out of. There, we still
have them. You could throw them at he could throw
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them around and they don't break. And then she so
she had enough plates and glasses to take to her
to her colt that she went to that Aggie Cold
over there in College Station. So we still have them.
I don't know. Thirty something years later they worked great.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I got an email from a fellow who said, my
sister in law was in a colt and she murdered
my brother and the children and her lover's wife and
conspired to murder her niece's husband. It was a huge
story that went viral and worldwide and lasted six years.
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She had murder trials in Idaho, of which she was
convicted in serving five life sentences, and just last month
she was convicted of my brother's murder in Phoenix and
got life. Man, there's crazy people out there. There are
just crazy. I do believe this, though. I believe there
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are people who are prone to cults. They're inclined toward it.
It's a certain personality. Do you ever notice how often
the women are wafish, they're on my what? Oh is
it Jerry or Gary?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Oh it's spelled with a G, but it might be Jerry. Yes, sir,
all right, I got about three and a half minutes.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But obviously this is a powerful story. What was the
name of the cult this woman was in.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Preparing a people?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Okay, Michael, this is Bobby your brother.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Shut up, yes, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
And and why did she commit the murders?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
What?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
What? What?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
What? How did the cult leave murder.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
My brother for money? And she murdered my brother for
his life insurance money. She murdered him because he was
a dark spirit and a zombie. And she it murdered
her own daughter and a seven year old Laurie.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yes, I found her.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I got my little brother.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I can tell I love Bobby, Doomsday Prepper group. Laurie. Oh,
she's smoking hot. That never happens, right, holy wow, I
look her up.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Good night, Loriy Ballow, Dave Bell.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, Chad day Bill. I actually remember this case oddly enough.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Right, it was it was everywhere my sister was on
doctor peel and just everywhere.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Oh my goodness, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
A big damn The story journalists were beaten by door
down to try and get me the in of you,
but I wouldn't do it. I stayed in the background.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
How did she kill your brother?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Shot him? Well, she had her brother do it, shot
him in the chest. Then when he hit the floor
and was laying there dying, he shot him again in
the lower abdomen while he's laying on the floor. And
the freaking cops didn't even suspect anything was a foul.
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They thought it was a domestic violence type guild. When
they rolled his body over and saw a bullet hole
in the floor, I mean, come on, oh, man.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
And then, did did you say he murdered she murdered
their children?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yes? Uh, the little seven year old boy was autistic,
and they duck taped his hands and feet together, put
a bag over his head, and duck taped it to
his face. Oh my goodness, his whole his whole mouth
and everything before they put the bag over his head.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And Bobby, come on, man, by the way, to be clear,
I'm not laughing at the murder of this child.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Obviously, don't think that's fine.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm laughing because Bobby chimes in at the background, and
I find it's it's a great routine.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
He talked to oh.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I gotta I gotta
pause you to we can come back. We can say God,
and we can refer to that place where beavers live.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
But we can't do them both at the same time.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
All right, So, so you get the news your your
brother's been murdered. Just does she kill kill the kids
at the same time.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
No, they that wasn't until later, a couple of months later.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
This woman's a demon, she's the she devil, Yes.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
She was, but she thought she was a deity. She
thought she was above God and she could uh you know,
she inby it thinks they're above God. And that's just
that ain't right.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I can't imagine what it would be like to go
through this.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
So, so did she kill the ldren herself or she
have her brother do that too?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Well, we're not sure. But they found a hair on
the duct her hair on the duct tape that was
used on jj A, the little boy, and uh,
It's that time time, time, time.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Luck and load.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
So Michael Varry Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Jim Mudd is a big fan of the Office. I
never watched, by the way, I never watched the Sopranos Seinfeld.
There's a lot that I've never watched even one episode of,
and it's not something to brag about. I just never
did network TV after about the Dukes of Hazzard or
(00:57):
so when I when I left home from when I
left home to go to college, I don't think I
ever watched another network regularly scheduled network TV show in
our home. You know, Thursday night you had. I always
thought Falcon Crest was stupid, but you had. I think
(01:17):
Dallas was on Thursday night NTS Landing. We didn't do
Notts Landing either. That that was rich people shows, and
my dad didn't like rich people. That's probably Republican shows.
We weren't going to watch that kind of stuff. But
somehow Dallas wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I don't know how that one slipped through, but we
watched my brother in law, I think it was my
brother and I I think it was Thursday Nights. Uh
was greatest American hero that was a good song. Sing
along with me, believe it or not, walk in on
it and he and I when when the music would start,
(01:51):
you know, because you'd be doing your homework and stuff
in one.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Or the other of us we go.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You hear that song start, you'd get get a running start,
run getting your bean bag with a yellow bean bag
in an orange.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Bean bag, put them right in front of the TV man.
That's big time.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Logo.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
What's happened to me?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Maybe scoop out some bluebellt ice cream, believed myself.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Oh, we had good times. We didn't have any bluebellt
ice cream because Walgreens didn't have it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
On sale, because they'd do, like back in those days,
two for three dollars. Remember when I came to Houston,
you'd get two for five dollars. And if we didn't
have that, there was always malted milk, carnation malted milk.
You just put a little milk in with that. You
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got a malt on your hands. If we didn't have that,
get some tostitos out and shave some cheese. This was
before you could buy shredded cheese. I remember, I remember
the first time I ever saw shredded cheese and somebody's fridge,
and thinking, man, how come they hadn't thought of that
(03:02):
till now, all the time I spent, all the times
I nicked my finger, And now you can just buy
it shredded because they got an industrial facility.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
They can cut that stuff up, make it real easy.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But we'd put a little lump of cheese on each
one of our tostitos, and then we ate our meals
out of a white paper plate and then the brown
woven did y'all have that the brown that it would
fit down in there?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Man, that's that's perfect because then when you're done, you
just throw your paper away and then you put that
brown woven thing. Have you ever owned a nice set
of dishes?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Me?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Neither. You know, when we got married, I was young.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Nothing's family wasn't here, so you know, it was just us,
and we didn't want to burden either one of our parents,
so we didn't do all the stuff people normally do.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But people that I knew, I mean, I can remember.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Being thirty years old. We'd go to a dinner party
at somebody's house and they'd have really nice china in
a china cabinet. That stuff's expensive, I mean, really expensive,
and I can remember saying to people, you know, well,
where did you get this? I'm trying to think of
the names of that stuff, Jasper were or whatever they could.
(04:26):
There's there's what's the one out of England that that
that's the big deal to have and it would be
one of two ways, either that their grandmother they'd inherited
it from their grandmother because she'd had a set or
at their at their shower. But we didn't do all that.
(04:46):
So these these well to do river Oaks West Side
families there would be a grandmother or an aunt or
someone or that they'd pitch in together and they by
really expensive silverware and serving dishes and plates and all
(05:08):
that sort of stuff. And that's fine. But my problem
when you go to a party and they do that
is now I gotta worry. I don't chip the plate,
drop the plate, bang the plate. The good news with
that little brown thatched thing and a piece of white
paper on top of it. Man, you don't have to
worry about anything. And you know, we have very basic
(05:30):
plates probably I don't know where we got Craton barrel
twenty years ago or something, and people laugh at me
because it's just not something that matters to me. It's
not something that matters to my wife. And she found
a few years ago these bamboo plates. You seen them
at my house, these bamboo plates, and it's like that
(05:53):
white paper plate thing. You think it's about that thick,
but it's enough to hold your food on it. And
I don't know how much they are a piece. I'm
going to make up a number. It's less than a
dollar apiece. They're not nothing. They're more than that white
paper plate. But let's say they're fifty cents. So if
it's a night that you don't feel like doing the dishes,
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you can throw them away. You rather wash them, but
you could throw them away. And they got a whole
set of those, and we probably have two hundred of
those in a cabinet that if we're around the house
and nobody's over, or if we have a big group,
or if now Michael's friends aren't coming over because Michael's
in college, but if Crockett's friends come over, then we'll
(06:37):
we pull that out because they're kids, you know, they
don't they don't care. Ramon, you did not get one
call on the Colts anyway. Jim's favorite character was Creed
Bratton on the office, and this is his line.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I've been involved in a number of colts, both as
a leader and a follower.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You have more fun as a follower, but can make
more money as a leader.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't know why I'm not the only one.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Because I see a if I get a Netflix Prime YouTube,
if I get something on some cult leader, I'm watching it.
I mean it is I don't know why I've watched more.
I know more about Jim Jones than a person ought
to know. That is not useful information that I can monetize.
(07:23):
It's not useful information that makes me better. It's not
useful information it makes me more interesting. I mean, I
know the name of the congressman that's the only congressman
that's ever been assassinated, and he was out at the
plane leaving when they went out and shot him and
Jim Ryan Because why why do I know this? Because
I've watched too many documentaries on cults. I don't know why.
(07:46):
And you know who I find the least interesting of
all cults. Oddly enough, Helter Skelter. I find Manson to
be the least interesting of them all.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I really was hoping we'd get a cult member or
at least a family member. I did have a few
people email from Amway. I did have a few people
email from the Mormon about Mormons. You know, now you've
got a thing going on now when somebody leaves the
Mormon church.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
There, I get it all the time. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
People think I'm anti Mormon or something. I really don't care.
You know, some people get mad that you even call
him Mormon. Remember I asked the question if Mitt Romney
could get elected because he was Mormon, and I got
national criticism. I received an email, I'm a lady that says, Czar,
(08:43):
today is my ninetieth birthday. I would appreciate it if
you could just wish me a happy birthday on your show.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's all I want. I love how you have such
respect for senior people. She means old people.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Thank you, Belvi, Landry, well, Belvi. I appreciate the request,
but I cannot do it. If I were to say
happy birthday, Belvi, Landry, happy ninetieth birthday, then I would
be overwhelmed with birthday requests. And it's not that I
even mind what happens. Is I get busy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I got papers all over the.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Place, and then I forget, and then people get upset,
and I get mad that they're upset, and then here
we are, and I've learned it's just easier. Roy Belvi Landry.
We'mon ninety years old today. Roy Chance sent me, uh No,
I talked to him.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I talked to him.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
This was two nights ago, and he said a lady
listener of ours had called him and they're trying to
talk their one hundred year old mother to do a
heritage film, no knotsky diet, and apparently she.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Is a hoot. And he's really really rooting for this one.
He's hoping this one comes through Roy right. Zar.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
When we got our first microwave, we discovered nachos. We
would slap cheese whiz on top of Doritos and microwave
those bad boys. I'd get through different strokes, good times
and Sanford and Son in one sitting on those nachos. Sean,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
What say you, sir?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
How do you do? Mister Barry?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Good? What you got?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
It's kind of weird listening to you out here. I'm
about fifty miles out or doing a delivery, and I
just happened to catch you on seven ninety and I
heard you talking about Colts. I saw a cult movie,
a cult film documentary about David Koresh, and the one
(10:55):
weird thing I saw was that none of Koresh's people
were Americans. They were all either foreigners or from overseas.
I didn't know if you realized that.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Well, that's not true, first of all, and.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
This is one of the times I'm going to pull
rank because of a vast expanse of knowledge.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
On this stupid issue. But I'm mildly obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
There were a number of Englishmen, there were a number
of Australians. But I've seen interviews with too many of
the people who were there, and I can tell you
their accents that they were. They were clearly American. You know,
the way he took over that cult is a study
(11:50):
in and of itself. He that cult existed long before him.
He's not the founder of that cult. He came in
and weaseled his way into the top of it, and
then and then they kind of broke off.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, it's it's it's an interesting deal. I Dick de
Garrett is a friend of mine and he's he's an
amazing lawyer, and he's had some amazing cases. And Dick
de Garrett is the guy you'll remember the lawyer who
went up to the door and went inside and talked
to him and came out. They were trying to negotiate
(12:28):
an end to all of this and the story he told,
I mean talk about song Freud. This guy is walking
into the house. He could get shot from inside, he
gets shot from outside, and he said he was more
worried defense we're gonna shoot him that than that.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Carescious people were.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And anyway, he has some really I'll see if I
can dig that that interview up, that that discussion, because
he had some very interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Perspectives on that. Let's go to Rob i'b you on
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Go ahead, Hey, Michael, Hey, I just wanted to call in.
I heard you speaking about cults and that sort of thing.
And I was part of a cult with my brother's
sister and mother. It came to be we were originally
I was born up north in New Jersey, and my
parents were divorced at a young age, probably about four
(13:27):
or five years old, and so of course we lived
with our mom. We didn't see our dad too often,
but she we you know, we went to church every Sunday.
I was baptized in an Episcopalian church, and we started
going to these Bible meetings and it was kind of
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for parents without partners, like single moms and that sort
of thing. And she ran into a group of people
and we started having these Bible meetings at a one
of the people's houses of this small group, and they
(14:08):
were in the process of getting a church together. And
so there was about maybe six to eight families involved,
and there were husband and wives with children, and there
were a few single moms with kids, and everybody sold
(14:31):
everything they had, sold their houses, sold their cars, and
put all their money into this church. And the whole
group moved from New Jersey. Now there was people from
other parts of the country, but it started in that
area and ended up renting a property over in Carmene, Texas.
It was about two hundred and fifty acres and there
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was like a warehouse built in a main house and
then like a born area excuse me, they it was
kind of like a Christian based type of church. Was
called the Covenant of Restoration Church. And the guy that
started him and his wife and then the wife's sister
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and her husband were kind of starting the whole thing.
We and of course, you know, moving from up there
down to Texas, we were kind of excited. We did
take a trip down here in the late sixties to
meet with everybody, and then we went back home and
then ended up driving down in a caravan with a
group of some of the church members. So as this
(15:37):
whole thing progressed, they were had they would have nightly meetings.
They would go through a process of you'd beat uh
called out to confess your sins, and then they'd go
through what they called a travailing process, which you'd beat
a pillow to get your anger out, to repent of
(16:01):
your sins, that sort of thing. And as this went on,
it became more violent. Whereas they started beating the children
call on just mid day.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I think we might have opened the floodgates on the
cuffs coming in. All right, we're talking about cults.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But first, my friend, the Aggie plumber Michael Robinson, lives
out in College Station and sends me an email with
a link to a Facebook post. He thought it was
next door, but I guess it's a Facebook post. And
a fellow named Ken Poonish had written this. He said,
I'm always willing to try and help someone who is
(16:48):
young and hard working try to start their own business.
So if you need any pressure washing work done, let
me recommend a young man to you. He came by
yesterday and did my driveway, which had never been professional
clean since the house was built in two thousand and three.
There's nothing nicer than when you when you get a
nice pressure wash on a driveway.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
He did.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
That's a very very white experience. That's that's the kind
of thing that white people love.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I love, love, love.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
To see us driveway after it's been pressure washed, even
if it's somebody else's.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He did very nice work.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And I would like to say at a good price,
but I don't know, since I've never paid to have
my driveway cleaned. So he's he not over promising. I mean,
this guy might be he doesn't know the market right,
but he's saying I like this this fella. He did
some good work. I like the price.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
But you know, hey, I know how y'all are y'all
love to go? No, no, I come out.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know he's he's getting ready. He charged one hundred
dollars to do the driveway and sidewalk. Mistake fella, mistake
ken ponish. Because there's there's people out there on Facebook
that are miserable, I mean miserable SAPs. They're eating their
stove for they hadn't had a home cooked meal. They
haven't had they haven't held a woman in thirty years.
(18:07):
They are a sad sack. But they got that Internet
connection by God, and they're on there. And whatever you post.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
If you say I bought something nice and it's ten dollars,
I got it for nine.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Oh okay, you you must be a barrel of laughs,
a whole lot of fun anyway, so he gives the price.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
But here's the part that had me. You're ready. Just
a heads up. He's a very nice guy and very respectful,
but he is also can you guess what he is?
How would he know if he's home? No, that's not
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he might be I don't know. Huh what do you
think it is? Why would you say black? On on Earth?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Would it be black? Just a heads up. He is
very nice and very respectful, but he is also.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Why would it be Mexican? If he's Mexican, you'd assume
he's Mexican. Ooh not Mormon. If Mormons come to your
house and knock on the door, it is not to
pressure wash your house.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That'd be nice if.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It was.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You whose Mormon is Ken Jennings.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know, Mormons have the highest per capita income of
any religious affiliation in the country. And the good thing
about Mormons, unlike some people, is when you brag on
Mormons how successful they are, they don't get mad. You go,
you know, your people are gonna take over the world,
y'all control everything.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
They don't go raw, don't say that, they go, that's
very nice of you. It's it's yeah, that's that's wow.
Thank you. Justin heads up. He's very nice and very respectful.
But he is also so.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
A very large young man. It kind of gets your attention.
So I had to ask. He said he was six
nine and weighs four hundred pounds, so kind of a
gentle giant. So if you need anything picked up moved,
he might be willing to help you with that too.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Now, what would make you think he wants to do
your moving just because he's a big old boy.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
See, that's why you want to be a little fellow
Like Ah, I got this guy. He's a pressure washer.
He's really good. His price as good as a young man.
I'd like to help him out, but he's built like
Kat Williams, so he's probably not gonna be able to
help much. And then there it is Country Power Cleaning
eight three oh seven four three eighty eight ninety one
(20:44):
says power washed driveways, fence, walkway porches, concrete free estimates,
military and seniors discount. He's got it all, Country Power Cleaners.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's called now you.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Go eight three oh seven four three eighty eight ninety one.
Jack Gantcy is that fella's name, gentle giant? Six nine
four hundred pounds. I'm glad he told that. Can you imagine? Oh, well,
you know, ponies?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
He good.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
He good guy, keeps his yard mowed down and keeps
washes his car every Saturday, gets up, washes his car,
moses grass.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
He don't watch Cotege football. I don't trust the guy
doesn't do that.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
He'll get up under the eves, you know, and and
and clean that out. He's, uh yeah, he'll he'll touch
up as he he's a good neighbor.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
He's he's a good neighbor, look after you stuff. You know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
He doesn't let his newspaper sit out in the driveway
like grives me crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
For you.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
If he's going out of town, he calls and cancels
it because I can't stand that newspaper piling up. It
just runs down the neighborhood. Everything always looks nice, you know.
He uh, he get he does the armor ale on
the tires and the whole thing. I mean, he takes
care of his stuff, you know what I mean. He
takes care of his stuff. Garage door comes open. He uh,
he parks into garage like you're supposed to do. Garage
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door comes open. You look in there. He's got his
stuff labeled and and and nice. I think he had
that sunflower floor coating come in and do the flooring
and all. He's got everything organized. He's got the stuff
hanging on the wall, that stuff piled up.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And uh. Yeah, he's a he's a nice fellow. He's
he's he's a good good guy.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, old Ken Ponish. But he didn't tell me the
guy was gonna be six nine four pounds.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
That's a big fella rut there. That guy comes walking
up your driveway, you.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Better hope he's carrying a pressure washer, because that'd take
a few shots to take him down.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Old boys, twenty five piece shooter wouldn't get that. Yeah,
I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Little peace shooter would would take this this big, gentle
giant down. Let's go, oh, Rob, I didn't get to
the end of the travailing wrap me up there.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Well, that was something that we did at every Bible meeting,
and everybody had a pillow and you'd beat the pillow to,
you know, get your anger out and show some sort
of repentance of what you you know, confess to. And
you know, a lot of the kids, me included, didn't
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understand a lot of the things that we were supposed
to confess confess to. You know, we just didn't understand this.
It was like an Old Testament fire and brimstone. You know,
if you don't confess every sin or every bad thought
you ever had, you were gonna get struck down dead.
And at one point they had a little prayer room
off to the side with like a little makeshift altar,
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and you go in there and talk to two of
the head people, and that's literally what they told me.
At one point. Of course, I'm shaking like a leaf,
you know, I'm like, Holy crap I'm gonna get, you know,
struck down and by lightning and died because I didn't
tell them every bad thought or every bad thing I've
ever done in my life up until that point. So
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and it, you know, to be very scary, and most
of the adults were brainwashed to believe that everything was happening.
Was you know, that this was all the right thing
to do. You know, they quote certain verses out of
the Bible, and it just got to be more violent
(24:20):
as the weeks went by. They at one point they
shaved my head and I had to fast for a
week and stay out of school for a week and
dig this ditch to repent for the things that I did.
I literally had no food or water for a week.
Now during that time, I snuck some food in the
(24:41):
middle of the night, and of course I got caught.
They beat me for it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Are you sure this wasn't just pinnecost.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Because I'm gonna tell you, I grew up in a
community of post There were probably more Pentecostals, we call
them Pennies. There were probably more Pennies my school. Then
there were Southern Baptists, and we were the second biggest.
But they man some of those parents. They were hard
on their kids. I mean hard on them. But let
(25:12):
me tell you something. You get you one in Penny Girls,
she's about sophomore junior year. She's ready to start putting
makeup on and stop wearing the sister wife outfit. Them
girls are going crazy over they make up for lost time.
See Fox is showing it on continuous loop. A mother
(25:34):
who is walking in to identify her child who's been killed,
and her legs buckle and she's doing the ugly cry.
Her face is so contorted, and there's a trooper walking
beside her trying to hold her up. He doesn't expect
her to collapse. It's getting worse and worse and worse
(25:56):
than boom, and they're showing it on loop. How dead
inside do you have to be to go?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Oh? Cut to camera three. Yeah, we got that woman
collapsing over there. That's the mother of one of the
dead kids. How sick do you have to be?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I read something somebody wrote yesterday. It said, dear media,
parking cameras outside of school after a mass shooting to
film crying kids. It's not journalism, it's grief porn. Tell
the story without exploiting the victims. The story is the shooting.
(26:40):
Let those kids leave with dignity. News isn't therapy voyeurism.
And I thought, damn, that's pretty deep. That must be
somebody pretty deep. And then I look over at the
Twitter handle. It's ramon, who'd you steal that from? I
(27:04):
mean that that is a succinct statement that gets to
the heart of the matter. Dear media, parking camera's outside
of school after a mass shooting to film crying kids
is not journalism, it's grief porn. Tell the story without
exploiting the victims. The story is the shooting. Let those
(27:26):
kids leave with dignity. News isn't therapy voyeurism. You got
thesaurus out.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
On that one, Richard. What you got?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, hey, Yazar, I got a double. I got a
plate story and a cold story all on one. So
my wife in the mid the mid eighties, when she
was in high school, she tried to figure out what
place in glass is she gonna take the to go
to college. Well her her mom said, Hey, go to
Diamond Champra Shymerock, and every time you fill up, you
(28:01):
get a stamp, a little green stamp. She saves. I
guess she got enough gas. She got a whole plate, said,
and these plates we still have. I don't know what
kind of steel were, mortar stoneware. They're made at them,
but they're like made out of the same stuff that
Captain America shield is made out of. There, we still
have them. You could throw them at he could throw
(28:22):
them around and they don't break. And then she so
she had enough plates and glasses to take to her
to her colt that she went to that Aggie Cold
over there in College Station. So we still have them.
I don't know. Thirty something years later they worked great.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I got an email from a fellow who said, my
sister in law was in a colt and she murdered
my brother and the children and her lover's wife and
conspired to murder her niece's husband. It was a huge
story that went viral and worldwide and lasted six years.
(29:00):
She had murder trials in Idaho, of which she was
convicted in serving five life sentences, and just last month
she was convicted of my brother's murder in Phoenix and
got life. Man, there's crazy people out there. There are
just crazy. I do believe this, though. I believe there
(29:21):
are people who are prone to cults. They're inclined toward it.
It's a certain personality. Do you ever notice how often
the women are wafish, they're on my what? Oh is
it Jerry or Gary?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Oh it's spelled with a G, but it might be Jerry. Yes, sir,
all right, I got about three and a half minutes.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
But obviously this is a powerful story. What was the
name of the cult this woman was in.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Preparing a people?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Okay, Michael, this is Bobby your brother.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Shut up, yes, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
And and why did she commit the murders?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
What?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
What? What?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
What? How did the cult leave murder.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
My brother for money? And she murdered my brother for
his life insurance money. She murdered him because he was
a dark spirit and a zombie. And she it murdered
her own daughter and a seven year old Laurie.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yes, I found her.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I got my little brother.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I can tell I love Bobby, Doomsday Prepper group. Laurie. Oh,
she's smoking hot. That never happens, right, holy wow, I
look her up.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Good night, Loriy Ballow, Dave Bell.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, Chad day Bill. I actually remember this case oddly enough.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Right, it was it was everywhere my sister was on
doctor peel and just everywhere.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Oh my goodness, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
A big damn The story journalists were beaten by door
down to try and get me the in of you,
but I wouldn't do it. I stayed in the background.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
How did she kill your brother?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Shot him? Well, she had her brother do it, shot
him in the chest. Then when he hit the floor
and was laying there dying, he shot him again in
the lower abdomen while he's laying on the floor. And
the freaking cops didn't even suspect anything was a foul.
(31:51):
They thought it was a domestic violence type guild. When
they rolled his body over and saw a bullet hole
in the floor, I mean, come on, oh, man.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
And then, did did you say he murdered she murdered
their children?
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Yes? Uh, the little seven year old boy was autistic,
and they duck taped his hands and feet together, put
a bag over his head, and duck taped it to
his face. Oh my goodness, his whole his whole mouth
and everything before they put the bag over his head.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And Bobby, come on, man, by the way, to be clear,
I'm not laughing at the murder of this child.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Obviously, don't think that's fine.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm laughing because Bobby chimes in at the background, and
I find it's it's a great routine.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
He talked to oh.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I gotta I gotta
pause you to we can come back. We can say God,
and we can refer to that place where beavers live.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
But we can't do them both at the same time.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
All right, So, so you get the news your your
brother's been murdered. Just does she kill kill the kids
at the same time.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
No, they that wasn't until later, a couple of months later.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
This woman's a demon, she's the she devil, Yes.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
She was, but she thought she was a deity. She
thought she was above God and she could uh you know,
she inby it thinks they're above God. And that's just
that ain't right.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I can't imagine what it would be like to go
through this.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
So, so did she kill the ldren herself or she
have her brother do that too?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Well, we're not sure. But they found a hair on
the duct her hair on the duct tape that was
used on jj A, the little boy, and uh,
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