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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time. Time time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. Luke, you will
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see is our guest to discuss the end of the
legislative session. This was I think the eighty seventh. It's
every other year our constitution calls for a biennial one
hundred and fifty day session, unless, of course, the governor
calls a special session.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Luke.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Do you see a special session in the offing? Michael, yeah,
Do you see a special session in the offing?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I do.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
The anticipation is that they might come to get in
August or September, definitely, not July.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
This has now kind of gotten out there, but the
Trump administration has asked Governor Abbot to bring a special
session together to give Texas two more Republican congressional seats.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We have room to.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Do that, and as you can imagine, with the national
battle going on, it would be very helpful to have
one or two more Republicans from the state of Texas.
Almost all of our Republican seats are sixty seventy eighty
percent Republican seats that are, and so we have room
to squeeze in a couple more congressional seats and flip
one or two.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So the Trump administration is pushed for that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And then Governor Abbott when he was at the Harris
County Republican Party Gala said that mentioned that a ban
on taxpayer funded lobbying might be part of his agenda.
That was another major bill that got killed in the
Texas House, never even got a hearing in the State
Affairs Committee. But the Texas Senate did pass about an
eighty percent ban is what they passed, and so they
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got watered down by a number of moderate senators who
teamed up with Democrats to shape a portion of that out.
So I do anticipate at this point we are more
likely to end up in a special session than not.
It will probably be August or September. And at this point,
if redistricting and taxpayer funded lobbying are on it, then
we should all be pretty grateful to Governor Abbott because
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those are those are some great policies.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
If we could get two.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
More Republican congressmen and a ban on taxpayer funded lobbying,
that would make for a strong finish to the session.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The two congressional seats will turn out to be incredibly
important very soon, and I hope we can accomplish that.
As for taxpayer funded lobbying, the history and I know
you know this, but for folks who don't know the
history on that, I don't think Abbott would have taken
this position as strongly as he has. But the school
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voucher bill had opposition from the public schools, and public
schools were funding lobbying, and I think more than anything else,
that's what he is working against. But Greg Abbott has
had a tendency to say something and not follow through.
So I wouldn't tell anybody to hold your breath on
that issue. Let's talk about Dan Patrick's Himp bill. Your
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thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, so I know a lot of people have very
strong opinions on this bill. I didn't start the session
would this being the legislative priority, and so it has
not been an issue that I have cared deeply about
throughout the session. I will just say that as a whole,
I lean more toward getting rid of a lot of
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these stores than not.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I do think that what we really have is kind
of a lesson in self governance.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Ultimately, there was this kind of loophole that opens up
and all of a sudden, every retail strip center in
Texas has a CBD, you know, weed shop that people
are going in, and so I'm on the side of
thinking that that's that's not what we legalized in Texas.
I don't think that's what the legislature mental legalize. And
I think that people basically abusing the freedom they had
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opened up this issue to be as big an issue
as it is. So I'm more toward in favor of
the bill than i am against it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I think we will.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Of course you probably have been following this closely, but
we're days away from knowing whether the governor is going
to sign it, let it go into law without his signature,
or veto that bill, and he has made it clear
that he's heard concerns from both sides. There was an
expansion of the teacup program, which I'm sure you followed,
the Texas Compassionate Use program, and I think that doctor
Olivers and Tony Tinderholt, who is a veteran and has
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a lot of people that are using this in a
good way, fought to have that program pretty significantly expanded
to make sure that veterans still had access to those services.
So that's I think where we're likely. I don't really
truly know where it's going to end up.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Go ahead, but let's let's talk about making sure that
veterans have uh access to What we're talking about is
access to the benefits of THHC. Now, the problem I
have with this is that Dan Patrick is speaking out
of both sides of his mouth. He says uh. He
starts by saying, marijuana's the devil. Everybody's going to die.
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He holds it up with his handshaking and say would
you take this? Would you take this? You could die? No,
you couldn't die. But he said, he's he's shaking his
hands with the little marijuana treats and saying, would you
take this? And the reporters are going, yeah, we've all
taken it, is nothing wrong with you. Would you're crazy?
You would die? Okay, so marijuana, this is reefer madness.
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We're all going to die. And then he comes back
and says, and then they go, but what about all
these veterans who are suffering and are finding relief with this.
It's a medical miracle. And they say, and he goes, oh, well,
we will preserve marijuana. Well, what aren't they going to die?
If we preserve. But we're gonna preserve that. But first,
the teacup exemption requires that you go through a series
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of prescription medications. It requires that you do things that
are highly addictive, which marijuana is not, and highly disruptive
to the treatment people are already getting. So it's one
or the other. And the problem is he's trying to
have his cake and eat it too. He's trying to
win favor with the liquor industry, which is where this
whole thing came from. And look, I love those guys.
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I know all those guys. I love them, I love
their products, I love their business. I want to see
them succeed. But let's be honest. I don't believe this
came from Luke Masius worried that at a strip center
there's a weed shop. This came from the liquor industry
that has said to every their lobbyists have admitted this.
The lobbyists have gone in and talked to state reps
and state senators and said, look, here's the deal. It's
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killing liquor sales. That that's the problem. And so the
beer and wine and retailers don't want it because those
weed shops are it turns out that some number of
people I'm not one of them because it doesn't do
for me what alcohol does. But some number of people
just like me who spend a lot of money on
booze are instead going and buying weed, and the liquor
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companies are seeing it on the bottom line. And that's
all this is about. And that look, Dan Patrick, do
whatever he wants, but to burn our coalition that we've
all worked hard to get to on behalf of something
that the base is not for. In fact, I saw
a poll last week of a majority of Republicans. Just
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Republicans are against the bill. So why spend so much
capital on something that doesn't get us down the road?
That's frustrating to me.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I understand the frustration. There were a number of issues
that I think conservatives did not appreciate the Senate spending
the time on.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
This was one of them.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
The other one was the movie incentive industry expansion of
half a billion dollars. I think it ended up at
three hundred billion dollars for the next two years that
we're going to spend on paying Hollywood to make more
of their films here in Texas.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Things like that, It uh it is going to be interesting.
Hold with me for just a moment, Luke, to see
us as us.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
They like like a Berry shop.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And the lone Darby. You can see this as our guest.
We're talking about the Texas legislative session that just concluded, Luke.
I don't know how else to ask this. A number
of people feel that Dan Patrick may not be intending
to run for reelection. There's some thought as to whether
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this HMP bill was something you would have that one
would take up because it was so unpopular with base
give in fact, you were there was an event where
he had Brandon Crayton and he introduced him as the
guy he would want to replace him. There have been
some very odd things to happen. Dan and I are
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not best friends by any measure, but I would consider
as having been friendly. I hate the HMP bill and
he knows that. But do you since you know he's
in his seventies, which not just so is Trump, but
do you sense that he's coming back for another session
for another time.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I believe he is.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, I believe he is.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
There have been a lot of different people that have
rumored about his decision and where he will end up.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But Ultimately, I think he is going.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
To come back.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
He was just talking about this a couple of days ago.
I remember the media said, are you going to be
back next session?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
He said yes.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I would just say the things that he's doing he's
already endorsing. He went and worked hard to get Dennis
Paul into that feet, replacing Mace Middleton, to try to
make sure some of the more moderate people thinking about
running didn't jump in. He's acting as somebody who intends
to continue to try to govern this state. And I
will say this about Dan Patrick because yes, I disagree
with them on the film incentives. I understand a lot
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of people's frustration with them on the THHC Bill, even
though something that I lean.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
More towards supporting.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
But as a whole, when we talk about the things
that we got out of this session, whether it's the
China land ban, whether it's getting all this stuff out
of our schools and the filth that ban on taxpayer
funded lobbing, the pass even the election integrity stuff. The
House killed a lot of bills, but those were the
same bills that passed the Senate. Dan Patrick still delivers
eighty to ninety percent of the Conservative policy wins we
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want every single session, and so there are policies that
people disagree with them on, but he has been a
force that has moved our state pretty significantly to the
right over the last ten years. It is going to
be interesting to see kind of what happens over the
next coming sessions. I anticipate him and Governor Abbitt both
running for reelection and serving for another four years, which
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will make them the longest serving governor.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And lieutenant governor in Texas history.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So we will be under this very unique window in
time with having the same lieutenant governor and governor for
many people, like their entire political careers have been under
just these two men.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yep, No, and I would concur with all of that.
I think that if he had not been the lieutenant governor,
the Paxton trial would have ended differently. I think there
are a number of issues like that, and I don't
believe what's interesting Unlike Bullock, who was an or hobby,
but particularly Bullock, I think he gets things done because
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his fellow senators trust him and respect him, and not
by bullying them. And and that's that's a unique leadership trait,
you know, because you got a lot of egos in
the In the Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Centate you mentioned Brandon Creighton, people do mention him often
as a potential replacement of the Patrick. I think as
somebody who's carried the school choice bill, apprenabile of rights,
A lot of this substantive conservative policy is carried by
Senator Creighton. People from Houston definitely see him as somebody
who could be a conservative replacement for Dan Patrick.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No doubt. So the elephant in the room is that
we didn't get any real property tax reform. And that's
what I hear about more than anything else. And it
felt like Republicans didn't even want to talk about it
because they didn't that all they wanted was school vouchers,
and so it was as if property tax reform just
wasn't going to happen. I find that very frustrating, and
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I feel like that's a swing and a miss with
the legislative session.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Your thoughts, So this next week on Wednesday, I'll release
my podcast Will to Be the Bad, right, the good,
the bad, and the ugly. And for me, the bad
is fiscal policy. It's all fiscal Our budget significantly grew.
It's not just that we only provided seven or eight
billion dollars of new property tax relief.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's actually that we spent so much money.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
If we came in with an eight billion dollar surplus
and returned all eight billion dollars to property tax payers,
then there would be maybe some level of understanding that
the average taxpayer could have to say, hey, you know what,
you gave it all back. In this case, they came
in with a neyear twenty four billion dollar surplus, they
returned eight billion. The rest of it went to growing
government pretty substantially, not only within our state budget, but
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they created.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
All these new funds.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And the reason they create all these new dedicated funds
is that those don't apply to the spending limit cap,
and so they get to spend billions of dollars in
all these projects without actually applying it to what they're
limited to spending growth wise. And then the campaign on
we have a conservative budget, but the reality is we're
growing by leaps and bounds state spending across the board.
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I think that's the biggest missed opportunity and something that
I think needs to be a focus the grassroots. When
we pick an issue or two to focus on, we
can really help shape the conversation going into a session.
The issues for conservatives for so long has been that
the House has killed so much that everything's on the list.
And I know you know this, but you're talking to
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your listeners saying, they killed the stuff that's going to
protect your kids from the trainees. They killed the China
land band, they killed all the election integrity, they killed
tax payer funded lobbying, they killed property tax reform. So
the benefit to having a session where we got maybe
fifty percent of what we asked to get done is
that it takes those things off the table and we
don't have to spend the next few years talking about
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China landownership. Instead, we can shift to honing and focusing.
To me, the message on a number of issues, and
one of those top issues has to be properties ex Really,
if that way, when they come back, they know there
is no way they can leave without having done something real,
substantive to lower the average person's tax bill.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Fair enough, Luke Messius, thank you for your time. Keep
up the great work. I love your stuff. I read
it regularly. Many is the time I intend to write
you a note and say it was a very good
perspective in my opinion on an issue of the day.
I think you and I, in fairness probably disagree on
the extent to which social policy should be pushed pushed
versus fiscal Uh. But I think you are a very
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You are a force for good out there, and I
appreciate your work, my man.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Thank you, Michael, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Luke Matthias m A c I A. S. You can
find him online. He has, as I mentioned, a blog,
and he has a podcast, and he speaks a lot
on issues related to Texas government.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
And I think I think he's a he's a good dude.
He's a good dude.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think we got everything accomplished in that conversation that
we needed to. I will be talking to two other
folks about this state legislative session, Brandon Walton's at uh
Texas Scorecard and also Michael quinn Sullivan at Texas Corecard.
I think they both do a fantastic job of covering
the session and they're there all day every day. When
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I on City Council, I used to find it interesting
that there would be people who would write about what
was happening at City Hall, but they weren't there and
they didn't know what deal was being cut by you
really have to stay on things day in and day
out to catch a lot of the nuances. And these
folks do that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
The Interiol, the butterflies with the Michael Berry. They're all Duncans,
and you know Duncan means yo yo, you can.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
You know, there's Grumpy ramon Dan Pastorini. A guy sent
me an email and said, hey, we went to this
place and this woman was singing. Her name was June.
She was married to Dan Pastorini. So I forwarded it
to him and he sends back anybody who gets an
email from me or Emily. At the bottom, it says, hey,
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follow our Facebook.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Here.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We got a new Facebook page because Facebook shut us down,
so we had to start over. And here's our page
where you can buy merch or see our sponsor list
and all this. And he sends me an email, I
already know all your sponsors, I already own all your
merch and I already follow you on Facebook. I know
that's my signature line. Email of the day Mike Rethmeier.
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We were talking about concepts we would like to see
brought back, or that we would like to see. He
says Steak and Ale should be resurrected. He's not the
only one by of them. He says. I'm late to
the party as usual. I worked for Snake and Tail
in nineteen seventy nine. Great place to work. Every lunch
and dinner was busy. Our four night a week house
band was trout fishing in America. We had some very
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hot cocktail waitresses. I attended bar for them from seventy
nine to eighty one. I started at age seventeen. It
was glorious. Sna invented the salad bar. Maybe some other
people want to quibble on that, but that's what he says.
They had very good food at a reasonable price, plus
a great bar and lounge setups. Parenthesis aside, I got
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robbed at gunpoint twice the same store south of Bisonette
on Southwest Freeway. I lost my friend Bob Reid to
a robbery gombat at the store in Terrance County. His
murderer is still on death row up by Livingston. My
sister married my friend Craig Kerrey. We all three worked
there together. I do not hold these incidents, Jermaine to
the conversation as it is. I got history in parenthesis.
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Claire Close, Princess honorable mention to Shakey's Pizza. That's our
email of the day. Then my private investigators sent me
a picture of him singing The Wonder of You by Elvis.
Then we've got somebody needed a show sponsor referral. We
were talking about concepts we'd like to see brought to
Houston or brought back, and ramones were street food. Number
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two was a modern cafe, which we have. Also in
number three was what oh dinner?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
In the show?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yes, say it like it's obvious. If I had remembered,
I wouldn't have asked you, Jackie, why don't you dan
Passrien and just go sit together and just go. Y'all
just grumble. You can say hey, number seven and he
can go, and that'll be y'all's conversation, like like Peanuts
that the teacher wan hu, y'all, y'all can just do
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that for a while, that'll be That'll be y'all's grunt,
your your form of communication. Uh, let's see benefit of
camp hope. Let's see great diners. What we what we
need to see back great diners, the pig stand and
Triple A diner. Triple A used to be over there
in kind of in the heights, like on North Shepherd.
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Did you ever go there? It was black owned and
primarily old white people with some black people.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
B W.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Says, I used to like eat S's on Post Oak
and sam Phillippi. Everything was served to go style from
the counter. The food was always fresh and there was
tons to choose from. Log Cabin Restaurant off fifty nine
North and Old Humble Road, Humble Road, Humble Buffet, fried chicken,
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chicken and dumplings, vegetables served to you at the table.
See people miss the cafeteria. There's a restaurant with a
steam table called Mom's Country Kitchen on Aldan Bender at
Aldan Westfield. They have several meats to choose and a
bunch of sides. Pick a meat, three sides, a roll
in a dessert sixteen dollars. This place is old school
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and has a big following. That's from Lawrence Paget Ramon.
Stephen Arnold says, you've probably been there. But Shandy's in
the Heights. She used to be at Cafe Express and
eighty percent of her menu will remind you of Cafe Express,
but better not sure about the black Kurant tea. She
used to be at Westcott and Memorial small business owner
just asked Johnny Carraba. Yeah, I know exactly where she
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used to be. She used to tell old people and
I don't know why, but we used to live at
a house at one Crestwood, which was my dream home.
And it was an all glass house with steel. Well
it was a glasshouse like it looked like a glass
pyramid and it was not a pyramid. It was it
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was a glass. Everywhere was glass, and it was steel beams.
And the reason it was steel beams is because it
was owned by a guy named Oh, I just forgot
his name, Andre, No, shut up, stop Andre, Andre Crispin.
Andre Crispin was his name. And Andre was a steel
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importer from Belgium. Fascinating guy. And he had built this
house using his he built, he supplied steel. And the
architect who used the most steel was a guy named
Talbot Wilson. Talbot Wilson's famous because he was in his
mid twenties when he was one of the architects of
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record on the Astrodome. And Talbot Wilson's claim to fame
was the span of the Astrodome, which had never been
seen before. The reason you'd never had an indoor stadium
like that is, because you couldn't span the roof without
having I still don't know how they did it, and
I've been told by engineers and architects, and I still
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don't understand it, even after I'm told. Anyway, that was
our dream home and it was all glass and it flooded.
It wasn't supposed to flood. We were sixty one feet
above the Bayu. It's right on the bayou, and we
were not supposed to flood. And we were sixty one
feet above the bayu. And the line, it was the
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highest it could ever go up, was supposedly fifty eight feet. Well,
lo and behold, it came up sixty four and everything
from my children's childhood, from my wife's childhood, everything, all
our old documents, everything finished washed away. Anyway, so we moved.
We moved way out west after that. But Shandy used
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to tell people that, yeah, Michael Berry. They'd say, you
ought to have Michael Berry come in here and talk,
eat here and talk about it. He would love this.
And she would say, yeah, he lives right around the corner.
I was trying to buy his house when he bought it,
and I don't under the house was on the Market.
It was always like I had done something wrong and
people would tell me that story. I never understood it. Oh,
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the great Caruso at West Timer near the Beltway was
great for dinner and a show. Singers would come out
to the tables and walk around and sing. I love
that place. I loved the duck with being cherry sauce.
I mean, that's a memory. That dude's got a memory
right there. Bonanza peanut butter whiskey. Guy, let's see, Eric
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says olive oil belly dancing. There's a great authentic Greek
restaurant in the Woodlands, just all Sawdust in forty five.
They do belly dancing every Friday night with the plate
breaking to really good food, and the dancers do not
look anything trans Eric from Spring no trans there. Steven said,
I had to thrill o my life listening to Don
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Williams at the Old ten Hall, and it wasn't so
loud that you couldn't hear yourself think. Several people emailing
that the Dinner Bell Diner is still open, but the
MEM's brothers don't own it anymore, so the food's not
as good. Pacific Yardhouse in Conroe, Music and Dinner great
little place, lots of character. So there are still some
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dinner in a lots of folks, say in the spaghetti warehouse,
which is different than spaghetti Western. I want to go
back to one of these women, are chief Michaelberry. I
think that there might be, because.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I got nothing going on down there.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Probably skip the light fad than go.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Churned corn wheels across the ball.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I was feeling kind of seasick.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
The crowd called out the brow. The room was homing harder.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
As a seiling.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Wait when we call it on that dream.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
The wage bron trade has a mento his chair, not
a vicious mass.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Just go Steve.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It is believed that record company owner Shape Guy Stevens,
who was close friends with the band, came up with
the name pro call Harem, which he said was a
misspelling of the Latin phrase pro cool haroun or harun,
which roughly means far beyond these things. It was also
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the pedigree name of his Siamese cat, who he actually
marked as pro call his which there's a whole history
behind why he named the cat there, but you get
the point. That is the most credible version of how
the uh how the name came about? Ramon hold on,
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I want to read you some of these concepts, because
there were good ones. Just one second, can you play
something nice while I'm doing that? All right, here we
go the Boston Sea Party on West Timer. I think
that was owned by by Borcock. Next check and see,
but I believe he Uh, I think that was by Borcock.
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I loved two roads in Rice Village on the second story.
I remember that. I just have an office right next
to that spaghetti warehouse. Uh Monell's in Nashville Southern. Oh, Man,
you know it's Confederate house. Man, don't get me talking
about the Confederate house. Bring it back. Grandi's Black Eyed
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Pea and showbiz. I can't believe anybody would actually, with
a straight face say they wanted Grandy used to come back.
Farrell's ice cream parlor. Oh, they had one in North Mentiuval.
I always forget y'all had a Farrell's over here, because
we had a Farrel's at Parkdale Mall. It was a
big deal village in pizza at Westbury Square in West
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Timriine or at Westbury Square wind swept In on airlines
south of West Road. Family Diner Triple A was the
south end of the Farmer's Market on Airline. Yeah, no,
I remember Dinner Bell Cafeteria, Dean Goss Theater, Dinner Bell
Belly Dancers. That again, is that place called olive Oil.
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Joe said, bring back der Wiener Stinsel. I agree, Although
we had James Coney Island, which was our very own
der Winier Stinzel that was based here. You get people
talking about James Coney Island. There's a lot of memories
to James Coney Island. Funny thing, small world. We were
talking about benjie Leavitt earlier. Benji Levitt is the grandson
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of mort Levitt. I believe it's Morton, Milton, Morton, and
I forget their first name. But the Levitt's and the
Levitts owned Grocer's Supply. You know the orange it looks
like a like a traffic sign. They owned grocery supply
and a lot of things came out of But they
the grocery Supply family owned James Coney Island. I think
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they're I think they're slowly but surely closing or selling
those locations, the ones that they owned. My friend Darren
used to be there, used to be their their CEO.
That's why they were always parked out at the RCC
went first open. We didn't have a kitchen yet, and
they were kind of enough to send the Coney Cruiser
out every night. Let's see, there's one in Ginado called
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Rear Window, Rear window listening room. Mucky Duck. Yep, Munkey
Duck is nice and Munkey Duck is a listening room.
So if you're actually there to hear the music. Oh,
I got a I got Blancos. The owner of Blancos
used to come to the RCC and tell us that
we were better than Blancos, which I don't believe was true,
but that was like the ultimate compliment. Victoria Station. Let's
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see restaurants we miss Old Santa Cino Inn near the
Battleship Texas. Corville's Restaurant. I got an email from Donnie Corville,
and I have never been there, but he said, come
be our guest at Hayes Carl's show in Beaumont at Corville's.
We've been doing this for over twenty years, dinner and
a show. You never hear anybody talk about the place,
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but Tracy Bird told me it's one of his favorite
places to play because the folks are because there's dinner,
there's less drunkenness, and people really listen to the show.
Robert says, bring back Ponchos, the Loubies and Tomball is
still open, very crowded at three point thirty. Phil Subaru,
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Phil the Oil Check, the gas, old San Francisco Steakhouse.
I don't know what that one was. The Red Lion
on South Maine, old English home with the British taxi
out front, Trader Vicks. Right down the street at the
Shamrock Hilton, there's still a Red Lion and it's on Shepherd.
And this sounds crazy because the guy's an Englishman. But
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the Red Lion on Shepherd in between Westheimer and say
West Gray, on the west side of the street. My
wife will tell you if it's not. It's some of
the best Indian food in all of Houston. And it's
a British pub, which is not really out of character
if you know anything about that. We need to bring
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back Luby's and Wyatt's. Barber says dinner. Dean Goss. Stanless
says Windmill Dinner Theater. A bunch of people said Windmill
Dinner Theater. I guess that went away. But that one
came up a lot dinner and a show Today is
going to watch the uncut live drama unfold at waffles
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at waffle house Chef's Kiss, that's actually true. Mighty BikeE
Burgers on South Shepherd and a Hogi Shop also on Shephard.
Dean Goss Dinner Theater, Dean Goss Dinner Theater, Windmill Dinner Theater.
That one came up a lot Modern Diner. There's a
Cafe Express on West Gray near Marshall's. I think that's
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the last one left. We used to wear Cafe Express
out Magic Island. Magic Island came up a few times.
Wind Mill Dinner Theater, the Great Caruso. Did you ever
go to the Great Caruso O? Vermon?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Apparently? I thought Ramon was joking earlier about scallops just
being shaved pieces of stingrays. I got an email from
a fellow says Ramone is partially correct. Reputable restaurants use
genuine scallops, which are mussels or bivalves similar to clams
and oysters. Some restaurants do use stingray or other skate
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wings cut in circles to replicate scallops at a much
lower cost. My grandparents were in the seafood whole cell
industry for many years, and my grandma taught me this
when I was young. You know what else people do
they use instead of crab meat? They use uh, well,
what is that? Filler? Fish? Ramon? The Chinese do it
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and they raise it in farms you're talking about. It
starts with a C.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
God.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I can't remember it, but they're apparently a lot of
times when you think you're eating crab, you're not eating crab.
I guess if you don't know any better, it doesn't
really matter. Christopher says, bring back pof folks. Did y'all
have po folks over here? We had a po folks
in Beaumont, and I loved PO folks. I thought that
was the coolest thing ever. My parents and I would
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go over to Po folks. That's good eating right there.
You can keep sending your emails. By the way, if
you have not heard back from us on Palm Beach three,
you can send another request. I think we've sent all
our responses now.
It's that time. Time time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. Luke, you will
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see is our guest to discuss the end of the
legislative session. This was I think the eighty seventh. It's
every other year our constitution calls for a biennial one
hundred and fifty day session, unless, of course, the governor
calls a special session.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Luke.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Do you see a special session in the offing? Michael, yeah,
Do you see a special session in the offing?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I do.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
The anticipation is that they might come to get in
August or September, definitely, not July.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
This has now kind of gotten out there, but the
Trump administration has asked Governor Abbot to bring a special
session together to give Texas two more Republican congressional seats.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
We have room to.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Do that, and as you can imagine, with the national
battle going on, it would be very helpful to have
one or two more Republicans from the state of Texas.
Almost all of our Republican seats are sixty seventy eighty
percent Republican seats that are, and so we have room
to squeeze in a couple more congressional seats and flip
one or two.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So the Trump administration is pushed for that.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
And then Governor Abbott when he was at the Harris
County Republican Party Gala said that mentioned that a ban
on taxpayer funded lobbying might be part of his agenda.
That was another major bill that got killed in the
Texas House, never even got a hearing in the State
Affairs Committee. But the Texas Senate did pass about an
eighty percent ban is what they passed, and so they
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got watered down by a number of moderate senators who
teamed up with Democrats to shape a portion of that out.
So I do anticipate at this point we are more
likely to end up in a special session than not.
It will probably be August or September. And at this point,
if redistricting and taxpayer funded lobbying are on it, then
we should all be pretty grateful to Governor Abbott because
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those are those are some great policies.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
If we could get two.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
More Republican congressmen and a ban on taxpayer funded lobbying,
that would make for a strong finish to the session.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The two congressional seats will turn out to be incredibly
important very soon, and I hope we can accomplish that.
As for taxpayer funded lobbying, the history and I know
you know this, but for folks who don't know the
history on that, I don't think Abbott would have taken
this position as strongly as he has. But the school
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voucher bill had opposition from the public schools, and public
schools were funding lobbying, and I think more than anything else,
that's what he is working against. But Greg Abbott has
had a tendency to say something and not follow through.
So I wouldn't tell anybody to hold your breath on
that issue. Let's talk about Dan Patrick's Himp bill. Your
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thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, so I know a lot of people have very
strong opinions on this bill. I didn't start the session
would this being the legislative priority, and so it has
not been an issue that I have cared deeply about
throughout the session. I will just say that as a whole,
I lean more toward getting rid of a lot of
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these stores than not.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I do think that what we really have is kind
of a lesson in self governance.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Ultimately, there was this kind of loophole that opens up
and all of a sudden, every retail strip center in
Texas has a CBD, you know, weed shop that people
are going in, and so I'm on the side of
thinking that that's that's not what we legalized in Texas.
I don't think that's what the legislature mental legalize. And
I think that people basically abusing the freedom they had
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opened up this issue to be as big an issue
as it is. So I'm more toward in favor of
the bill than i am against it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I think we will.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Of course you probably have been following this closely, but
we're days away from knowing whether the governor is going
to sign it, let it go into law without his signature,
or veto that bill, and he has made it clear
that he's heard concerns from both sides. There was an
expansion of the teacup program, which I'm sure you followed,
the Texas Compassionate Use program, and I think that doctor
Olivers and Tony Tinderholt, who is a veteran and has
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a lot of people that are using this in a
good way, fought to have that program pretty significantly expanded
to make sure that veterans still had access to those services.
So that's I think where we're likely. I don't really
truly know where it's going to end up.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Go ahead, but let's let's talk about making sure that
veterans have uh access to What we're talking about is
access to the benefits of THHC. Now, the problem I
have with this is that Dan Patrick is speaking out
of both sides of his mouth. He says uh. He
starts by saying, marijuana's the devil. Everybody's going to die.
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He holds it up with his handshaking and say would
you take this? Would you take this? You could die? No,
you couldn't die. But he said, he's he's shaking his
hands with the little marijuana treats and saying, would you
take this? And the reporters are going, yeah, we've all
taken it, is nothing wrong with you. Would you're crazy?
You would die? Okay, so marijuana, this is reefer madness.
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We're all going to die. And then he comes back
and says, and then they go, but what about all
these veterans who are suffering and are finding relief with this.
It's a medical miracle. And they say, and he goes, oh, well,
we will preserve marijuana. Well, what aren't they going to die?
If we preserve. But we're gonna preserve that. But first,
the teacup exemption requires that you go through a series
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of prescription medications. It requires that you do things that
are highly addictive, which marijuana is not, and highly disruptive
to the treatment people are already getting. So it's one
or the other. And the problem is he's trying to
have his cake and eat it too. He's trying to
win favor with the liquor industry, which is where this
whole thing came from. And look, I love those guys.
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I know all those guys. I love them, I love
their products, I love their business. I want to see
them succeed. But let's be honest. I don't believe this
came from Luke Masius worried that at a strip center
there's a weed shop. This came from the liquor industry
that has said to every their lobbyists have admitted this.
The lobbyists have gone in and talked to state reps
and state senators and said, look, here's the deal. It's
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killing liquor sales. That that's the problem. And so the
beer and wine and retailers don't want it because those
weed shops are it turns out that some number of
people I'm not one of them because it doesn't do
for me what alcohol does. But some number of people
just like me who spend a lot of money on
booze are instead going and buying weed, and the liquor
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companies are seeing it on the bottom line. And that's
all this is about. And that look, Dan Patrick, do
whatever he wants, but to burn our coalition that we've
all worked hard to get to on behalf of something
that the base is not for. In fact, I saw
a poll last week of a majority of Republicans. Just
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Republicans are against the bill. So why spend so much
capital on something that doesn't get us down the road?
That's frustrating to me.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I understand the frustration. There were a number of issues
that I think conservatives did not appreciate the Senate spending
the time on.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
This was one of them.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
The other one was the movie incentive industry expansion of
half a billion dollars. I think it ended up at
three hundred billion dollars for the next two years that
we're going to spend on paying Hollywood to make more
of their films here in Texas.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Things like that, It uh it is going to be interesting.
Hold with me for just a moment, Luke, to see
us as us.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
They like like a Berry shop.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
And the lone Darby. You can see this as our guest.
We're talking about the Texas legislative session that just concluded, Luke.
I don't know how else to ask this. A number
of people feel that Dan Patrick may not be intending
to run for reelection. There's some thought as to whether
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this HMP bill was something you would have that one
would take up because it was so unpopular with base
give in fact, you were there was an event where
he had Brandon Crayton and he introduced him as the
guy he would want to replace him. There have been
some very odd things to happen. Dan and I are
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not best friends by any measure, but I would consider
as having been friendly. I hate the HMP bill and
he knows that. But do you since you know he's
in his seventies, which not just so is Trump, but
do you sense that he's coming back for another session
for another time.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I believe he is.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, I believe he is.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
There have been a lot of different people that have
rumored about his decision and where he will end up.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But Ultimately, I think he is going.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
To come back.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
He was just talking about this a couple of days ago.
I remember the media said, are you going to be
back next session?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
He said yes.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I would just say the things that he's doing he's
already endorsing. He went and worked hard to get Dennis
Paul into that feet, replacing Mace Middleton, to try to
make sure some of the more moderate people thinking about
running didn't jump in. He's acting as somebody who intends
to continue to try to govern this state. And I
will say this about Dan Patrick because yes, I disagree
with them on the film incentives. I understand a lot
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of people's frustration with them on the THHC Bill, even
though something that I lean.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
More towards supporting.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
But as a whole, when we talk about the things
that we got out of this session, whether it's the
China land ban, whether it's getting all this stuff out
of our schools and the filth that ban on taxpayer
funded lobbing, the pass even the election integrity stuff. The
House killed a lot of bills, but those were the
same bills that passed the Senate. Dan Patrick still delivers
eighty to ninety percent of the Conservative policy wins we
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want every single session, and so there are policies that
people disagree with them on, but he has been a
force that has moved our state pretty significantly to the
right over the last ten years. It is going to
be interesting to see kind of what happens over the
next coming sessions. I anticipate him and Governor Abbitt both
running for reelection and serving for another four years, which
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will make them the longest serving governor.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And lieutenant governor in Texas history.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
So we will be under this very unique window in
time with having the same lieutenant governor and governor for
many people, like their entire political careers have been under
just these two men.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yep, No, and I would concur with all of that.
I think that if he had not been the lieutenant governor,
the Paxton trial would have ended differently. I think there
are a number of issues like that, and I don't
believe what's interesting Unlike Bullock, who was an or hobby,
but particularly Bullock, I think he gets things done because
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his fellow senators trust him and respect him, and not
by bullying them. And and that's that's a unique leadership trait,
you know, because you got a lot of egos in
the In the Texas.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Centate you mentioned Brandon Creighton, people do mention him often
as a potential replacement of the Patrick. I think as
somebody who's carried the school choice bill, apprenabile of rights,
A lot of this substantive conservative policy is carried by
Senator Creighton. People from Houston definitely see him as somebody
who could be a conservative replacement for Dan Patrick.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No doubt. So the elephant in the room is that
we didn't get any real property tax reform. And that's
what I hear about more than anything else. And it
felt like Republicans didn't even want to talk about it
because they didn't that all they wanted was school vouchers,
and so it was as if property tax reform just
wasn't going to happen. I find that very frustrating, and
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I feel like that's a swing and a miss with
the legislative session.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Your thoughts, So this next week on Wednesday, I'll release
my podcast Will to Be the Bad, right, the good,
the bad, and the ugly. And for me, the bad
is fiscal policy. It's all fiscal Our budget significantly grew.
It's not just that we only provided seven or eight
billion dollars of new property tax relief.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's actually that we spent so much money.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
If we came in with an eight billion dollar surplus
and returned all eight billion dollars to property tax payers,
then there would be maybe some level of understanding that
the average taxpayer could have to say, hey, you know what,
you gave it all back. In this case, they came
in with a neyear twenty four billion dollar surplus, they
returned eight billion. The rest of it went to growing
government pretty substantially, not only within our state budget, but
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they created.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
All these new funds.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And the reason they create all these new dedicated funds
is that those don't apply to the spending limit cap,
and so they get to spend billions of dollars in
all these projects without actually applying it to what they're
limited to spending growth wise. And then the campaign on
we have a conservative budget, but the reality is we're
growing by leaps and bounds state spending across the board.
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I think that's the biggest missed opportunity and something that
I think needs to be a focus the grassroots. When
we pick an issue or two to focus on, we
can really help shape the conversation going into a session.
The issues for conservatives for so long has been that
the House has killed so much that everything's on the list.
And I know you know this, but you're talking to
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your listeners saying, they killed the stuff that's going to
protect your kids from the trainees. They killed the China
land band, they killed all the election integrity, they killed
tax payer funded lobbying, they killed property tax reform. So
the benefit to having a session where we got maybe
fifty percent of what we asked to get done is
that it takes those things off the table and we
don't have to spend the next few years talking about
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China landownership. Instead, we can shift to honing and focusing.
To me, the message on a number of issues, and
one of those top issues has to be properties ex Really,
if that way, when they come back, they know there
is no way they can leave without having done something real,
substantive to lower the average person's tax bill.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Fair enough, Luke Messius, thank you for your time. Keep
up the great work. I love your stuff. I read
it regularly. Many is the time I intend to write
you a note and say it was a very good
perspective in my opinion on an issue of the day.
I think you and I, in fairness probably disagree on
the extent to which social policy should be pushed pushed
versus fiscal Uh. But I think you are a very
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You are a force for good out there, and I
appreciate your work, my man.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Thank you, Michael, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Luke Matthias m A c I A. S. You can
find him online. He has, as I mentioned, a blog,
and he has a podcast, and he speaks a lot
on issues related to Texas government.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
And I think I think he's a he's a good dude.
He's a good dude.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think we got everything accomplished in that conversation that
we needed to. I will be talking to two other
folks about this state legislative session, Brandon Walton's at uh
Texas Scorecard and also Michael quinn Sullivan at Texas Corecard.
I think they both do a fantastic job of covering
the session and they're there all day every day. When
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I on City Council, I used to find it interesting
that there would be people who would write about what
was happening at City Hall, but they weren't there and
they didn't know what deal was being cut by you
really have to stay on things day in and day
out to catch a lot of the nuances. And these
folks do that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
The Interiol, the butterflies with the Michael Berry. They're all Duncans,
and you know Duncan means yo yo, you can.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
You know, there's Grumpy ramon Dan Pastorini. A guy sent
me an email and said, hey, we went to this
place and this woman was singing. Her name was June.
She was married to Dan Pastorini. So I forwarded it
to him and he sends back anybody who gets an
email from me or Emily. At the bottom, it says, hey,
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follow our Facebook.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Here.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
We got a new Facebook page because Facebook shut us down,
so we had to start over. And here's our page
where you can buy merch or see our sponsor list
and all this. And he sends me an email, I
already know all your sponsors, I already own all your
merch and I already follow you on Facebook. I know
that's my signature line. Email of the day Mike Rethmeier.
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We were talking about concepts we would like to see
brought back, or that we would like to see. He
says Steak and Ale should be resurrected. He's not the
only one by of them. He says. I'm late to
the party as usual. I worked for Snake and Tail
in nineteen seventy nine. Great place to work. Every lunch
and dinner was busy. Our four night a week house
band was trout fishing in America. We had some very
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hot cocktail waitresses. I attended bar for them from seventy
nine to eighty one. I started at age seventeen. It
was glorious. Sna invented the salad bar. Maybe some other
people want to quibble on that, but that's what he says.
They had very good food at a reasonable price, plus
a great bar and lounge setups. Parenthesis aside, I got
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robbed at gunpoint twice the same store south of Bisonette
on Southwest Freeway. I lost my friend Bob Reid to
a robbery gombat at the store in Terrance County. His
murderer is still on death row up by Livingston. My
sister married my friend Craig Kerrey. We all three worked
there together. I do not hold these incidents, Jermaine to
the conversation as it is. I got history in parenthesis.
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Claire Close, Princess honorable mention to Shakey's Pizza. That's our
email of the day. Then my private investigators sent me
a picture of him singing The Wonder of You by Elvis.
Then we've got somebody needed a show sponsor referral. We
were talking about concepts we'd like to see brought to
Houston or brought back, and ramones were street food. Number
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two was a modern cafe, which we have. Also in
number three was what oh dinner?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
In the show?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yes, say it like it's obvious. If I had remembered,
I wouldn't have asked you, Jackie, why don't you dan
Passrien and just go sit together and just go. Y'all
just grumble. You can say hey, number seven and he
can go, and that'll be y'all's conversation, like like Peanuts
that the teacher wan hu, y'all, y'all can just do
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that for a while, that'll be That'll be y'all's grunt,
your your form of communication. Uh, let's see benefit of
camp hope. Let's see great diners. What we what we
need to see back great diners, the pig stand and
Triple A diner. Triple A used to be over there
in kind of in the heights, like on North Shepherd.
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Did you ever go there? It was black owned and
primarily old white people with some black people.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
B W.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Says, I used to like eat S's on Post Oak
and sam Phillippi. Everything was served to go style from
the counter. The food was always fresh and there was
tons to choose from. Log Cabin Restaurant off fifty nine
North and Old Humble Road, Humble Road, Humble Buffet, fried chicken,
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chicken and dumplings, vegetables served to you at the table.
See people miss the cafeteria. There's a restaurant with a
steam table called Mom's Country Kitchen on Aldan Bender at
Aldan Westfield. They have several meats to choose and a
bunch of sides. Pick a meat, three sides, a roll
in a dessert sixteen dollars. This place is old school
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and has a big following. That's from Lawrence Paget Ramon.
Stephen Arnold says, you've probably been there. But Shandy's in
the Heights. She used to be at Cafe Express and
eighty percent of her menu will remind you of Cafe Express,
but better not sure about the black Kurant tea. She
used to be at Westcott and Memorial small business owner
just asked Johnny Carraba. Yeah, I know exactly where she
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used to be. She used to tell old people and
I don't know why, but we used to live at
a house at one Crestwood, which was my dream home.
And it was an all glass house with steel. Well
it was a glasshouse like it looked like a glass
pyramid and it was not a pyramid. It was it
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was a glass. Everywhere was glass, and it was steel beams.
And the reason it was steel beams is because it
was owned by a guy named Oh, I just forgot
his name, Andre, No, shut up, stop Andre, Andre Crispin.
Andre Crispin was his name. And Andre was a steel
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importer from Belgium. Fascinating guy. And he had built this
house using his he built, he supplied steel. And the
architect who used the most steel was a guy named
Talbot Wilson. Talbot Wilson's famous because he was in his
mid twenties when he was one of the architects of
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record on the Astrodome. And Talbot Wilson's claim to fame
was the span of the Astrodome, which had never been
seen before. The reason you'd never had an indoor stadium
like that is, because you couldn't span the roof without
having I still don't know how they did it, and
I've been told by engineers and architects, and I still
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don't understand it, even after I'm told. Anyway, that was
our dream home and it was all glass and it flooded.
It wasn't supposed to flood. We were sixty one feet
above the Bayu. It's right on the bayou, and we
were not supposed to flood. And we were sixty one
feet above the bayu. And the line, it was the
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highest it could ever go up, was supposedly fifty eight feet. Well,
lo and behold, it came up sixty four and everything
from my children's childhood, from my wife's childhood, everything, all
our old documents, everything finished washed away. Anyway, so we moved.
We moved way out west after that. But Shandy used
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to tell people that, yeah, Michael Berry. They'd say, you
ought to have Michael Berry come in here and talk,
eat here and talk about it. He would love this.
And she would say, yeah, he lives right around the corner.
I was trying to buy his house when he bought it,
and I don't under the house was on the Market.
It was always like I had done something wrong and
people would tell me that story. I never understood it. Oh,
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the great Caruso at West Timer near the Beltway was
great for dinner and a show. Singers would come out
to the tables and walk around and sing. I love
that place. I loved the duck with being cherry sauce.
I mean, that's a memory. That dude's got a memory
right there. Bonanza peanut butter whiskey. Guy, let's see, Eric
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says olive oil belly dancing. There's a great authentic Greek
restaurant in the Woodlands, just all Sawdust in forty five.
They do belly dancing every Friday night with the plate
breaking to really good food, and the dancers do not
look anything trans Eric from Spring no trans there. Steven said,
I had to thrill o my life listening to Don
(24:10):
Williams at the Old ten Hall, and it wasn't so
loud that you couldn't hear yourself think. Several people emailing
that the Dinner Bell Diner is still open, but the
MEM's brothers don't own it anymore, so the food's not
as good. Pacific Yardhouse in Conroe, Music and Dinner great
little place, lots of character. So there are still some
(24:31):
dinner in a lots of folks, say in the spaghetti warehouse,
which is different than spaghetti Western. I want to go
back to one of these women, are chief Michaelberry. I
think that there might be, because.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I got nothing going on down there.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Probably skip the light fad than go.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Churned corn wheels across the ball.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I was feeling kind of seasick.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
The crowd called out the brow. The room was homing harder.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
As a seiling.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Wait when we call it on that dream.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
The wage bron trade has a mento his chair, not
a vicious mass.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Just go Steve.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It is believed that record company owner Shape Guy Stevens,
who was close friends with the band, came up with
the name pro call Harem, which he said was a
misspelling of the Latin phrase pro cool haroun or harun,
which roughly means far beyond these things. It was also
(26:47):
the pedigree name of his Siamese cat, who he actually
marked as pro call his which there's a whole history
behind why he named the cat there, but you get
the point. That is the most credible version of how
the uh how the name came about? Ramon hold on,
(27:10):
I want to read you some of these concepts, because
there were good ones. Just one second, can you play
something nice while I'm doing that? All right, here we
go the Boston Sea Party on West Timer. I think
that was owned by by Borcock. Next check and see,
but I believe he Uh, I think that was by Borcock.
(27:33):
I loved two roads in Rice Village on the second story.
I remember that. I just have an office right next
to that spaghetti warehouse. Uh Monell's in Nashville Southern. Oh, Man,
you know it's Confederate house. Man, don't get me talking
about the Confederate house. Bring it back. Grandi's Black Eyed
(27:54):
Pea and showbiz. I can't believe anybody would actually, with
a straight face say they wanted Grandy used to come back.
Farrell's ice cream parlor. Oh, they had one in North Mentiuval.
I always forget y'all had a Farrell's over here, because
we had a Farrel's at Parkdale Mall. It was a
big deal village in pizza at Westbury Square in West
(28:15):
Timriine or at Westbury Square wind swept In on airlines
south of West Road. Family Diner Triple A was the
south end of the Farmer's Market on Airline. Yeah, no,
I remember Dinner Bell Cafeteria, Dean Goss Theater, Dinner Bell
Belly Dancers. That again, is that place called olive Oil.
(28:38):
Joe said, bring back der Wiener Stinsel. I agree, Although
we had James Coney Island, which was our very own
der Winier Stinzel that was based here. You get people
talking about James Coney Island. There's a lot of memories
to James Coney Island. Funny thing, small world. We were
talking about benjie Leavitt earlier. Benji Levitt is the grandson
(29:00):
of mort Levitt. I believe it's Morton, Milton, Morton, and
I forget their first name. But the Levitt's and the
Levitts owned Grocer's Supply. You know the orange it looks
like a like a traffic sign. They owned grocery supply
and a lot of things came out of But they
the grocery Supply family owned James Coney Island. I think
(29:26):
they're I think they're slowly but surely closing or selling
those locations, the ones that they owned. My friend Darren
used to be there, used to be their their CEO.
That's why they were always parked out at the RCC
went first open. We didn't have a kitchen yet, and
they were kind of enough to send the Coney Cruiser
out every night. Let's see, there's one in Ginado called
(29:49):
Rear Window, Rear window listening room. Mucky Duck. Yep, Munkey
Duck is nice and Munkey Duck is a listening room.
So if you're actually there to hear the music. Oh,
I got a I got Blancos. The owner of Blancos
used to come to the RCC and tell us that
we were better than Blancos, which I don't believe was true,
but that was like the ultimate compliment. Victoria Station. Let's
(30:12):
see restaurants we miss Old Santa Cino Inn near the
Battleship Texas. Corville's Restaurant. I got an email from Donnie Corville,
and I have never been there, but he said, come
be our guest at Hayes Carl's show in Beaumont at Corville's.
We've been doing this for over twenty years, dinner and
a show. You never hear anybody talk about the place,
(30:33):
but Tracy Bird told me it's one of his favorite
places to play because the folks are because there's dinner,
there's less drunkenness, and people really listen to the show.
Robert says, bring back Ponchos, the Loubies and Tomball is
still open, very crowded at three point thirty. Phil Subaru,
(30:54):
Phil the Oil Check, the gas, old San Francisco Steakhouse.
I don't know what that one was. The Red Lion
on South Maine, old English home with the British taxi
out front, Trader Vicks. Right down the street at the
Shamrock Hilton, there's still a Red Lion and it's on Shepherd.
And this sounds crazy because the guy's an Englishman. But
(31:18):
the Red Lion on Shepherd in between Westheimer and say
West Gray, on the west side of the street. My
wife will tell you if it's not. It's some of
the best Indian food in all of Houston. And it's
a British pub, which is not really out of character
if you know anything about that. We need to bring
(31:40):
back Luby's and Wyatt's. Barber says dinner. Dean Goss. Stanless
says Windmill Dinner Theater. A bunch of people said Windmill
Dinner Theater. I guess that went away. But that one
came up a lot dinner and a show Today is
going to watch the uncut live drama unfold at waffles
(32:02):
at waffle house Chef's Kiss, that's actually true. Mighty BikeE
Burgers on South Shepherd and a Hogi Shop also on Shephard.
Dean Goss Dinner Theater, Dean Goss Dinner Theater, Windmill Dinner Theater.
That one came up a lot Modern Diner. There's a
Cafe Express on West Gray near Marshall's. I think that's
(32:23):
the last one left. We used to wear Cafe Express
out Magic Island. Magic Island came up a few times.
Wind Mill Dinner Theater, the Great Caruso. Did you ever
go to the Great Caruso O? Vermon?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Apparently? I thought Ramon was joking earlier about scallops just
being shaved pieces of stingrays. I got an email from
a fellow says Ramone is partially correct. Reputable restaurants use
genuine scallops, which are mussels or bivalves similar to clams
and oysters. Some restaurants do use stingray or other skate
(32:58):
wings cut in circles to replicate scallops at a much
lower cost. My grandparents were in the seafood whole cell
industry for many years, and my grandma taught me this
when I was young. You know what else people do
they use instead of crab meat? They use uh, well,
what is that? Filler? Fish? Ramon? The Chinese do it
(33:20):
and they raise it in farms you're talking about. It
starts with a C.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
God.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I can't remember it, but they're apparently a lot of
times when you think you're eating crab, you're not eating crab.
I guess if you don't know any better, it doesn't
really matter. Christopher says, bring back pof folks. Did y'all
have po folks over here? We had a po folks
in Beaumont, and I loved PO folks. I thought that
was the coolest thing ever. My parents and I would
(33:48):
go over to Po folks. That's good eating right there.
You can keep sending your emails. By the way, if
you have not heard back from us on Palm Beach three,
you can send another request. I think we've sent all
our responses now.
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