AM Show HR 3 - ​Derrick Wynne Was Discharged From The Army For Refusing The Covid Shot

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
George Santayana famously said, those who do not learn the
lessons of history are doomed to repeat them. This is
what drives the world's jewry, as it is known the
Jewish community to never let anyone forget that the Holocaust happened,

(00:24):
under the theory that when you do, you dishonor the
memory of those who died, but you make it possible
to happen again. There are a number of Armenians who
would argue that their genocide was forgotten. And I have
so much anger over not COVID, not a virus, but

(00:49):
over the people who made horrible decisions and ruined lives.
And I've had a number of them say to me
since then, well I was scared. Okay, well I got
scared last night. I heard something go bump in the night,
so I just went outside and pulled my machine gun
out and shot everybody, shot through the windows of every
one of the houses in case it might be a

(01:10):
bad guy. And they were over. No, that doesn't work
that way. You being in a state of fear does
not authorize you to make bad decisions and ruin other
people's lives. One of the ways that was done, and
this President is trying to solve this problem, trying to
fix it, trying to make it right. Is that brave,

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honorable Americans who wore the uniform to protect and defend
our country lost their jobs because they would not take
the clot shot people of principle, and that is awful,
is absolutely awful. And doctor Mary Tally Boden, who has

(01:52):
evangelized against the dangers of that damn clot shot, informed me,
because I believe she has a podcast, has continue she's
on the war path. I don't think she'll ever stop,
and I hope she don't never stop. I hope nobody
who was affected by this will ever stop lest we
forget what happened. She brought to my attention a fellow
by the name of Derek Wynn, who I understand was

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kicked out of the army for refusing the clock shot
that killed so many people, including my brother, and he
has been spending the last three and a half years
since then trying to get politicians to act on provable
crimes within the Department of Defense. And there's more that
he is up to, and we will visit with him now.
Derek Winn, first of all, thank you for being willing

(02:35):
to serve our country before this awful thing was done
to you.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So tell me what happened, and take your time. We're
in no hurry to tell me how long you served
and where you served, and then we'll get to how
you were kicked out from doing what you were meant.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
To do, all right. I enlisted pretty much at the
height of COVID, when they were still kind of touting
that the vaccine would be a voluntar, Harry, and they
still had this very compassionate, loving kind of tone, and
so I never really thought that the mandate would would
really reach me, especially not you know, in the infantry

(03:10):
I was joining as an infantryman. So I joined, I
was I went through boot camp in June of twenty twenty.
I served until July of twenty twenty two, and I enlisted, yeah,
pretty much at the height of COVID. I never I

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never thought that it would get to me. And slowly
but surely, as they were able to kind of convince
more and more people to get this thing, their their
tone slowly changed and once they had basically, you know,
fifty to fifty one percent of the population to comply,
with this, everything became about, you know, mandates and the

(03:55):
coercive tactics and stuff like that really started to kind
of show their face.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Derek. An interesting point, and that is that once people
made the decision to submit themselves, to subjugate themselves to
the suggestion of something that was going to protect them,
most of that was based on fear. It was not
baits on their better instincts. I never took the shot

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and never would. Once people made that decision, it was
interesting to watch them transform from now that I did it,
all of you have to do it. And it's sort
of like you know, when someone wears green on St.
Patrick's Day, they they're very keen that you do, or
they pinch you extra hard because they need the validation
of the bandwagon. The lemmings want other lemmings to jump

(04:45):
off the cliff with them because there is there is
comfort in company. And I noticed that people, once they
did that, became more willing to support authoritarianism. So it
went from hey, let's all do this so we all
live because we all want to live, to you do
it or will kill you. And it sounds like that's
kind of the point at which we got to with

(05:06):
you and then walk me through from there.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yes, I said from the beginning every opportunity I've had
that this was a litmus test for freedom, and if
we had collectively kind of shrugged this off, they would
have never gotten this far. But they kept eroding away
at us and moving the goalposts as the game went on.
But basically once I started to once it was mandated
within the DoD, the Secretary of Defense mandated that every

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service member were to take an FDA approved vaccine, and
at the time, there was no such vaccine ever made.
There was no such vaccine in the DoD's possession whatsoever,
So it was physically impossible to comply with these mandates
even if you wanted to. And they knew this from
the start, And what they were doing is knowingly falsely
representing EA products as if they were FDA approved vaccines,

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which was basically not giving these soldiers informed consent as
to what was being put into their bodies, so they
weren't able to. Basically they weren't able to. They never
had full knowledge of what these vaccines were, and the
dd was knowingly falsely misrepresenting what these products were because
they were trying to sell this new mRNA technology, and

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we were basically being used as the guinea pigs for
these first batches because all of our medical information was
spored into one database, the d MED system. Okay, that
allows all of them to circumnavigate, circumnavigate all the hippo
laws that prevent your doctor from talking to my doctor
and comparing notes. And since we believed that they were

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running basically a global test on this new mRNA technology,
we were being used as a subset for the entire
country because all of our spouses and all of our children,
they all received care through the d MED system as well,
So it made us the perfect little Petri dish. And
so within the d O D you know, whistleblowers got

(07:03):
a hold of the DMD system and they they they
basically were trying to expose these huge upticks in all
these adverse side effects causes a direct result of these shots.
And instead of listening to these people, they silenced them
and locked them out of their credentials so they could
no longer access the database. And then they went in

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and and and fudge the numbers. You know, they said
the system went down. A bunch of people have screenshots
of this of the of the numbers before they were changed,
and they're trying to do everything they can to to
obfuscate the data to make it to where there's no
direct correlation between all these adverse side effects and the
Indian UH the n r n A technology. So there

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was a battle within the d o D going on
right after the mandate, and they are people within the Derek.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Wouldn't even just a moment. Derek whims down the army
for refusing the clot shot, but he refuses to be
kept down. This story gets more interesting coming out to
Michael Berry show. So Derek Wynn as our guest. He
was in the United States Army. He refused the clot
shot and he was kicked out. We're supposed to be
building a military to fight wars, and we're kicking people

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out for not being willing to be guinea pigs on
some stupid shot that ended up killing a lot of people.
This is misplaced priorities. This is how you lose wars.
This is how civilizations fall. He's our guest because he's
not going quietly, all right, So problems at the DoD.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Go ahead, Yes, sir, So people within the DoD knew
that they never had and at thea approved vaccine within
their possession. So people like myself were basicallywithstanding all the
coercive tactics that they were using against us. And so
let me back it up. It initially started off completely voluntary,

(09:00):
and they had this very nice, compassionate tone, and then
once so many people complied, then the mandates became inevitable
because now they've got fifty percent of the people who
complied with it, they can smash you if they want to.
So you could see all this inner agency collusion between
the CDC, the World Health Organization, the DoD and it

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was like as soon as the CDC would approve, they
approved one vaccine right and the very day that it
was approved, it was pulled from market and never produced.
And then they piggybacked all of these EUA products onto
this one vaccine that got approved, and they said, oh, well,
these vaccines are made with the same formulation, so you
could just use them as if they were the same ones, Okay,

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So then that gave them the authorization to start pushing
these EA vaccines onto US, where they were falsely representing
this product as it was as if it was FDA approved,
because they were saying oh, this is pretty much the same,
but there's a legal and a medical distinct between these
two vaccines. Okay, So there was like a tug of
war going on within the legal office because people basically

(10:07):
caught them. You know, they had these big, huge grand
plans and when they forgot to dot one you know
I and cross one T, and we caught them on
it in a checkmate move basically. So what they had
to do is they had to send the Secretary of Manpower.
I believe her name is Terry Aderim. She came out
and wrote a force wide memo and I don't have

(10:29):
it on me because I'm not at my desk, but
it says something along the lines of you could use
these EUA products as if they were FDA approved vaccines.
And that's what gave basically all the legal offices within
the d OD the green light to start hammering down
on anybody who refused this stuff. And they were using

(10:50):
every tactic they could think of, you know, they were
they were weaponizing. What they did is they framed this
as a force readiness issue because we were technically at
war with COVID, so they framed this the force readiness issue,
and they started targeting leaders from the top down. Okay,
and you can track this all the way up to
the top. And so what they did is they targeted leaders,
and they said, this is a force readiness issue. If

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you can't get one hundred percent of your people vaccinated,
they're not deployable. So you're not an effective you're not
a combat effective unit. So if you can't get the
job done, will replace you with somebody who can. So
now everyone in a leadership position is now put in this.
This they weaponized basically your life or your livelihood. And
they they put leaders in a position to where they

(11:33):
had to choose, you know, to to burn their the
guys below them, to protect their careers or you know,
you know, basically destroy themselves. And very few people lacked
the integrity to choose the you know, the hard left
instead of the easy right. And and it trickled downwards,
and so that that created an environment to where you

(11:55):
couldn't you couldn't report the corruption of your commanding officer
because the guy reading the paperwork was the guy who
forced him to do it. You know. So all of
this this basically bending the knee, you know, it trickled
downwards and I was at PFC. You know, I wasn't
in very long and I was at the bottom of
the totem pole, you know. So the layers of failure

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that had to happen to get to me are just astounding,
you know. And I had I was lucky enough to
have a decent enough team who once I was able
to articulate a very clear reasoning for why I was refusing,
and I was able to lay out my case, you know,
they I was able to directly articulate my case to them.
They were like, wow, dude, you're actually you got it
sewn up. You actually taught me some stuff. I might

(12:40):
have to go back and rethink my decisions, but you know,
I'll go to bat for you if I can. But
as soon as the paperwork went up to chain a
command to some people i'd never met, people that never
knew me, you know, never. I've got stacks of paperwork
from everybody I've ever worked with saying I was a
stellar soldier, you know. And but the the people that
had never met me, they were passing down this stuff

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from a legal office. Every step of the way. This
was this was you know, everybody delegated their leadership to
to legal offices. So lawyers were kind of running plays
on this the entire time, telling people what to do,
handing them memos basically cookie cutter memos to sign and
stuff like that, because there was no playbook for this.
So every every support you know, air quotes leader just

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delegated their their command authority to some lawyer who then
basically told them to do whatever what was in the
best interest of the d of D as a whole
instead of their you know, the people who they were
put in position to to, you know, protect and lead.
So they created an environment within the d o D
that basically they they were they turned the heat up,

(13:45):
you know, they were they were basically telling us, you know,
my I was in a unit that went on a
nine month rotation. Uh, some of my guys were there
for nine months, uh, to Europe. And typically when you're
allowed to come home, you get like a week or
two to go visit your family because you've been gone
for so long. And they told these young impressionable kids,
you know, days before we left, that hey, if you're
not vaccinated, you're not going to be able to go

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home and see your family. So of course these young
guys line up, you know, and and they used, you know,
everything they could to squeeze, you know, and whittle whittle
people down until you know, because everybody talked a big
game at first, you know, everybody's like, oh, they're gonna
have to hold me down, and I'm not taking it.
I'm not taking it. But man, they they put every
ounce of pressure they could they could on our throats

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and they they used every tactic they could and it
and and every you know a lot of people folded
and and people because of that, it created like this
momentum within the d O D. Yeah, it was just
like an avalanche of authority basically, and we became like
the others and and it was an incentive to burn

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people and they were at the time, there was such
a culture. This was such a contentious sub To even suggest,
you know, that the vaccine didn't come from a wet market.
You know, we were being called conspiracy theorists for even
saying that. And then we were being called conspiracy theorists
and for refusing to believe that this you know, vaccine
that they cooked up in months that was you know, expedited. Basically,

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we were supposed to believe that that was the end
all be all and and any hesitation to that. There
were people within the DoD that were labeled as insider
threats for refusing the vaccine, people who had stellar career.
Senior Airman Lance Castle look his story up. He was
a seventeen year airman. I believe he might have had

(15:39):
a little bit more time than that. He was months
away from retiring when this happened, and he refused the vaccine,
and his leadership did everything they could to burn him
for it. They put him on trumped up charges and
he beat those charges. And since he was on trial
and not his leadership, they just sent him back to
his unit. Oh you're guilt, you're innocent, go back to
your unit. You're good to go. So that's same leadership

(16:00):
was now in charge of him again, and they just
did it again. And he was trying to report what
happened to him and try to get anybody to listen
to him.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
He sent out, you're making my blood boil. This is infurious, Derek.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
He just shows me what it's like to be, you know,
a real man. I have never met someone so wonderful.
I call him rich the Michael Barry.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
You know, we don't do as many interviews as we
used to do. We used to do a lot of interviews,
and so Brad Gloria, who booked our interviews, took a
position with Serious Radio, and because we we we just

(16:46):
weren't doing as many interviews. And I didn't want to
do that as much as we were because people were
complaining they wanted more of us talking and fewer interviews.
And I find that a lot of interviews are just
some guy pitching a book or some guy with some
project coming on, and it just really there's nothing, there's
no value to the listener. And then you have a

(17:11):
situation where somebody's not selling anything and they come to
your attention. A doctor named Mary Tally Boden, who's been
on the war path over this craziness in COVID, sent
me a message said, hey, you may want to talk
to this guy. I talked to him. I think she
has a podcast. She said, I talked to him and
this is your kind of story. And he was kicked

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out of the army for refusing the COVID shot. And
I'm listening to him talk and I hear these stories
and it just makes me so damn mad. We're not
talking about saying to somebody Hey, sorry, but I'm not
going to serve you a Hamburg today because you didn't
take the COVID shot. We're talking about people who've dedicated

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their lives to being a nurse or a pilot, or
in this case, a warrior in our army, and you're
gonna you're going to dishonor them in this way. I
can tell Derek, you know, I am a person that
believes that if people, when they're wronged, would stand up

(18:13):
and fight back and not allow it to happen, a
lot fewer people in the future would be wronged. When
a woman is raped, hunt that man down, prosecute him.
Have every person you you know help you when a child.
If if if when the priests or pastors or boy
Scout leaders or anyone else is a pedophile with a kid,

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If if the parents would instead of saying, well, we
don't want to do anything, just you know, and they
didn't allow him just to be relocated, but went after him,
it would save people in the future. The fact that
you are I can hear that anger in your voice,
and that's what I encourage. That's how you bring about change.
I can tell you are a fighter and seem like

(18:56):
you'd be very good for the United States Army because
you got me off, that's for sure, all right, So
go ahead, Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yes, sir. So the reason why this is so important
to me is because I truly believe in the values.
I was willing to die for what this this military
stands for, and for what this country stands for. So
so this these ethos that the DoD pretends to portray,
you know, the like loyalty, duty, respect, honor, courage, your
selfless sacrifice, all that. Like I was willing to die

(19:27):
for those values. And until those values are truly portrayed
by this institution and there's accountability for what happened to us,
the d D is a hollow husk of everything that
it claims to be, and people of value in this
country will no longer serve. And there was a there
was a mass exodus as a direct result of this,

(19:47):
this vaccine mandate, and generational families that have served this
country are telling their children to never serve in the
United States military because of what happened to us. And
until that's righted, the d o D will get quality.
Our quantity over quality. If that, you know, they may
get a couple of Trump bumps and every every now
and again. But people of value no longer want to

(20:11):
serve this institution and this is a voluntary force. So
we as a country will fail if there's not accountability
for what happened to people who are willing to serve
in this organization. You know, like you can give him
all the incentives you want, all the bonuses you want,
or whatever, you can't buy people that are willing to
die on a battlefield to protect the homeland. You know

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that that's that's that's in the heart of this country
and they're spitting in the face of that by by
trying to cover up what happened and obviouscate the truth
and and blame everything on de I. You know, DI
is an incredible annoyance and there is a huge tactical
you know, issue with with all the issues of DEI,

(20:54):
but it is being used as a scapegoat to cover
up the mass exits from the d d of people
who are truly willing to die for this country. And
and people if they didn't leave there, they're retiring as
soon as they can and they're get there there checking out.
And that's why I believe, you know, they're they're focusing
so much on on oh yeah, retention numbers are so good.

(21:17):
But within the d D, you know, people whistleblowers were
trying to call this out, all these these issues that
were happening, and they silenced them instead of listening to them.
And I believe, and a lot of other people believe
it's because this new mRNA technology has trillions and trillions
of dollars set to be made behind it. And if

(21:38):
people within the DD were coming out and telling the public, hey,
you know, there's this there's a lot of issues with that,
they wouldn't have been able to sell that to anybody.
There wouldn't have been a single you know, they wouldn't
have been able to incentivize you with you know, one
hundred dollars gift cards or you know, a dozen Krispy
Kremes or whatever they were using to try to trick

(21:59):
people into this, because the thing was you had to
take it voluntarily, because if you took it voluntarily, you
don't have a claim later on in the future if
it does mess you up. So the way that they
rolled this out showed it's like a huge level of premeditation.
And this premeditation we can prove within the DoD because

(22:19):
everybody that committed crimes signed their name at the bottom
of crimes. Everything that's done in the DD is done
through paperwork, and we can extrapolate the same tactics that
were used on us within the DoD onto every sector
of society. Basically Mary Tally, Boden, police officers, firefighters, teachers,
every single one of them. They did, they squeezed them

(22:41):
in the same way. They were basically using the DoD
as like a little testing grounds to see what they
could get away with, and then you extrapolate that onto
the civilian population. So we can prove all of that.
But the thing is is our fight has been so
nichely within the DoD, and we've been inside this ex
chamber for the last few years that, you know, the

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general population has no idea what they truly did, and
they're trying to basically get away with it. It's as
if the DoD jaywalked on the way to commit a
murder and they're like apologizing for the jaywalking and then
trying to say, yeah, yeah, if everything's okay. You know,
they're offering to buy us back with back pay and

(23:25):
stuff like that, which is nothing more than hush money
to cover up their crimes, because if enough people fall
for it, they can then say the recruiting and retention
crisis wasn't as bad, you know, because oh, look at
all these people who came back. But what they did
is they basically forced us into financial ruin by just
changing our lives, you know, out of nowhere, destroying everything

(23:47):
we had, and then dangling back pay that was already
allotted to them by the taxpayers anyways, and dangling back
pay in front of us, as if that's an incentive
to come back. Like we like, we're some battered wives
who are just going to forgive, you know, what was
done to us without a true even apology, even an acknowledgment.
And there's an order of operations to what needs to

(24:09):
happen here, and the d D seems to be fully
willing to skip over the acknowledgment part, you know, it
wants to obvious gate the truth and pretend as if
this was like a political thing, but it was an
institutional thing that was being done, and it was extrapolated
throughout every sector of our society, and whistleblowers within the

(24:31):
DoD there's hundreds of us can prove it and I've
spent the last three and a half years trying to
get my Congressman Brian Babben, trying to get Senator Ted Cruz.
You know, Governor Greg Abbott, I'm a signatory of a
document called the Declaration of Military Accountability.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Hold just a moment, you led perfectly into what I
wanted to talk about, which is what yes Republican elected
officials have and have not done as.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
A result of It's of the world as we know it.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Michael end of the world.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Five.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
His name is Derek Wynn. He served in the United
States Army honorably. He refused to get an experimental clot shot.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
That's based on the mr NA platform that is now
very very suspect. More and more studies coming out to
say this is a terrible way to do it. But
either way, forcing a medical decision on a person and
kicking him out of our army over this and he's
not going lightly. So I want to talk about Well,

(25:43):
let's talk about Brian Babbin's office. I'm disappointed to hear
that his staff will not let him speak with you,
which means I mean, he could make that happen if
he wanted to, because Brian Babins's son Leif or life.
I don't know if it's leave for life is good
buddies with with Jocko Willink And I mean, and he's
a guy's a badass Navy seal, and you know, you
would assume this guy would be very pro military guy.

(26:07):
I'm just I'm disappointed and surprised by this. Can you
speak to what's happened there.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yes, sir, Well, so there's there's there's the constitution, and
there's the institution, okay, and and and there's people who
are willing to die for the Constitution. And there are
people who are willing to die for the institution, okay.
And if he's so connected with the DoD, he may
not have the integrity to tell people, you know, tell
his buddies, hey, you messed up, you know, And that

(26:34):
takes that That's not an easy conversation to have. And
so I think, especially with all this money behind this technology,
I think it's political suicide to to really rock this boat.
So I think politicians have done everything in their power
to keep me at arms distance and treat me as
a disgruntled individual instead of a canary in the coal mine,

(26:56):
so that they can keep their heads safely buried in
the sand and pretend to still be out here like
these Charlatans, you know, you know, pretending to represent us,
but in actuality, they're I mean, in my opinion, they're
looking out for themselves. And at least that's the opinion
I get from his office, because, like I said, I've
never been able to actually have a conversation with him directly.

(27:17):
I've gone to the office and begged them to schedule
a phone meeting. I begged them for a skype meeting.
I told them I'd drive to Washington on my own
dime if that's what it took for me to get
a face to face And every time they give me
these polite pleasantries just to get me off the phone.
And for years I believed them, you know, and I thought, oh,
maybe it's just a scheduling thing or whatever, and they

(27:37):
kind of gas lit me into trying to you know,
shut me up. But after calling and calling and calling,
and as the narrative shifted more and more in our favor,
and more things came to light to expose that I
wasn't just some paranoid schizophrenic showing up to their office
with some three ring binder full of files. I thought
for sure that that they would you know, gain some

(27:59):
type of appetite to listen to my plea. But the
more they tried to basically just get me to shut up,
the more I realized that they had zero desire to
look into this, which you know, I'm bringing to them
crimes against humanity, you know, and they're out there pretending
to be these you know, Captain America conservatives when in reality,

(28:21):
you know, they they don't care. I mean, their actions
at least lead me to believe, or their lack thereof
lead me to believe that they have, you know, no
desire to help the people. And what was an obvious,
you know, bait and switch, an obvious coercive, top down
pyranny basically, and so people like Ted Cruz he gets

(28:44):
out there. I had spent hours on the phone with
his former military legislative assistant, Tim dill okay, and I've
explained to him the intricacies of what happened, and there's
no way whatsoever they were not knowledgeable of what basically
the things I'm telling you right now because I talked
to them about it, and the entire time we're like, oh,

(29:07):
we're gonna have to talk to our lawyers about this,
and blah blah blah. And so he has the opportunity
to get the heads of the DoD and the State
Department and all that under oath in front of the
world and in front of the American people, and he
knowingly and willingly only focused on the fact that all
of the religious accommodation request within the dd they were

(29:30):
being blanket denied. So up until COVID, if you didn't
want to get a vaccine for whatever reasons, you could
file a request to not get it, and they were
handing them out willy nilly because you weren't being used
as a labrat at the time. So when people started
filing religious accommodation request because they believed XYZ was in
the shots or for whatever reasons, honestly, a lot of

(29:52):
people were just using it as a way to get
out of it, because they saw that as a way
to get out of it. So the DoD was blanket
denying all of these because they couldn't have anybody in
the DoD not getting tested. It would mess up their
statistics and their numbers. So they went through thousands and thousands,
like hundreds of thousands of these requests and were denying

(30:13):
them at a rate like somebody did the match, but
it was like every few seconds, just long enough for
them to find where to click to deny. They were
just powering through these things, and that's a constitutional violation.
So Ted Cruz gets the head of the d D
on oath. He knows about the totality of the bait
and switch that was done to us, but he instead

(30:35):
uses that as an opportunity to grant stand to his
constituents about how he's an advocate for religious freedom and
he's going to fight for our religious rights and blah
blah blah blah blah, knowing that there's a greater crime
that was committed, but he refused to say a single
word about it, and that to me told me everything
I needed to know. So I'm an we Initially, there

(30:59):
was a document called the Declaration of Military Accountability and
two hundred and thirty one service members signed it, and
I handed this document to Governor Ted Cruz. All right,
my local representative is Briscoe Caine, and I.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Spent another hour Governor Greg Abbott.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
My apologies, yes, sir, yeah, my apologies. So my my
elected representative. My local representative is Briscoe Caine. He got
a hold of my number and I spent hours talking
to him on the phone about this, and he told
me there was nothing he could do for me because
Texas House was out of session. I had to wait
nine months before he could do anything, so he stayed
conveniently silent on it. But through him, he was doing

(31:40):
a campaigning event and Greg Abbott was in town. So
I showed up to that event and I personally handed
the Declaration of military accountability and some more paperwork to
Governor Greg Abbott himself. I have photo evidence of me
doing it, and I pled with him for for a
good thirty forty five seconds, please look into the there's

(32:00):
you know, I was made homeless because of this, you know,
and and there's all kinds of people falling through the
cracks because of what was done on an institutional level.
And I begged him to look into it. And I've
never once gotten a single phone call back from anyone
in his office. I've never once seen him make a
post about it. I've never want like and so even

(32:22):
my Congressman, Brian Badman, I go in there and talk
to them, and they I'd say, you know, hey, the
people need to know what happened. You know, I'm seeing
you all day every day posting these dumb posts like
about Taco Tuesday and these irrelevant things that mean nothing,
and you can't make one social media post about this.
So they were basically gaslighting me and telling me, oh,

(32:45):
we can't make individual posts for people with individual grievances.
And they were trying to do everything they could to
treat me as a disgruntled individual. Anytime they wanted to
talk to me, it was about, oh, how can we
get you back in the military, or how can we
get your discharged us upgraded. You know, they were basically
trying to work with the government to cover up our crimes.

(33:06):
They deleted all of the negative paperwork that they gave
us for refusing the shot internally, and now basically, in
twenty years time, the only proof that we were kicked
out for refusing the shot is like these stacks of
paperwork that each one of us has. That's the only
thing proving on not some crazy nut job. They just
made it all up because they doctored build the paperwork.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
We are out of time, but our conversation continues. There
will be plenty more of this interview on our podcast.
It will be listed as bonus podcast with Derek whenn
a US Army. They'll be posted to the podcast and
you can hear it in its entirety, including the bonus portions.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Over there. Wells has left for me, Thank you and
good night.