November 6, 2025 • 32 mins
Michael Berry dives into the chaos of chicken shortages, the mystery of missing dirty rice, and the cultural quirks of southern fast food. From Doctor John’s jingle legacy to voicemail rants and Dixie debates, it’s a crispy, spicy, and unapologetically southern ride.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. I got a
(00:29):
message from Plus Saunders in our newsroom and he said,
Erica Smith is the name of the new weekend anchor.
I listened to most of her casts. I'm pretty sure
I didn't hear her say that. The guy called and
said that she said millions of people had died in
the Caribbean during the storm, but he is pulling that
(00:51):
news report to see if in fact she did or not.
I'm not saying it makes it okay, but apparently she
is a newbie, so I would imagine, and if she
did say it, pretty sure she knows better. I'm pretty
sure she was nervous. And I'm not saying that you
shouldn't have to be accurate, but that would that would
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count for.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I got a message from Chris Sitz who said, you
were talking about al Copeland. When Doctor John was down
and out in the early eighties, al Copeland hired him
to develop a jingle for Popeye's commercials. Doctor John came
up with love that Chicken from Popeyes and sang the
jingle and Popeyes commercials for several years. Kennedy you're ready
(01:41):
for a Yeah, they just make a part of mind.
(02:08):
I never realized that was doctor John. Did you that's crazy?
You know who he sounds like? There? Uh, one of
the PBS special How a Bill Becomes a Law? Can
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you pull? How a bill becomes a law? That was
quality educational entertainment right there. That's right up there with
Time for Timer. You remember Time for Timer? Oh that
was quality. Yeah, put that on the button bars and
you know you got it. Oh, here we go, Here
we go. You sure got to climb a lot of
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stuffs to get to this Capitol building here in Washington.
I wonder who that's at use scrap of papers. I'm
just a bill. Yes, I'm only a bill, and I'm
sitting here on catint John. It's all long longer. I
love doctor John, which is why it kind of hurt
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my feelings a little bit when the bid came out.
That the way the way it works is these booking
agents will send you, hey, here's what we have coming
out for the next six months, and then there'll be
the price next to them. Some of them don't do
the price. I hate that. Don't you hate that? I'm
obsessed with real estate and wherever we go, I will
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look on the window of the properties for sell there.
But if they don't put the price, because their thought
is we don't give you the price, you'll have to
come in and then we got you. No, No, I
just won't look. It might have been less than I
thought it was. You might be losing a deal. But anyway,
the order came in for doctor John and it wasn't horrible.
(04:02):
In fact, it was lower than you would have expected.
It was like ten grand. And so I think Richard
Gandy was doing our booking at the time, and I said, hey, well,
here's here's who I want from the list of Bellamie brothers,
whoever he had. He didn't have Bellerie brothers. Don Mary
Grubbs did. But anyway, whoever was handling doctor John had
(04:23):
a roster of artists kind of liked Doctor John. Louisiana's
LaRue and maybe Exile and and stuff like that from
that era of that style. And so he, uh, the
next week he goes, all right, so we got this,
We're gonna do this, We're gonna do this. And so
I'm looking at the list and I said, well, did
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you ask about Doctor John. I asked you to ask
about doctor John. Yeah, that's we're not going to make
that work. And I said, we'll find another day, we'll
make it work. I want doctor John. And he kept
him in it hauling because he didn't want to hurt
my feelings and so little did he know. I kind
of got a charge out of it. So I said,
what's the issue and he said, well, he said he
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would never play here, and I said, well, that's stupid.
I guess he doesn't like the redneck country club name.
He doesn't like you. Wait what Yeah, apparently he really
really doesn't like you. And he had some choice words
(05:28):
for why he would never play here. I said, there's
really only two things he could say that would make
me happy. Yes, I'll play under your terms, or I
hate you. You're horrible. I've wasted time in my life
thinking about not liking you. That's as good as him playing,
and it costs me a lot less. Thank you. I
have a good story for the rest of my life.
That's true. That's a true story. Bill. Yes, Sir Ramo said,
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you're eighty two. Yeah, and you know what he told me.
You said take that one fast.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, you talked about churches and Popeye is Popeye had
bought churches. I was introduced to churches when Uncle Sam
brought me to Texas in nineteen sixty four. And that's
their whole office with San Antonio, and my god, it
was the best deal in town. Fifty cents to get
you two big pieces of the chicken and a biscuit.
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And they cut those chickens on a saw. They did
not debone them the way that we would break down
a chicken to go at home. And so you got
two big pieces of the chicken and that biscuit for
fifty cents. It was the best deal in town.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Bill, I turned my microphone off so I could listen
to you. I could just listen to you reminisce all
day long.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
There's a kind of a happiness to your voice and
the way you tell stories. And I can see you
that in your mind's eye, you're going back to that
time and handing them your fifty cents and can't wait
to sit down and eat your your chicken, and you're
happy about it. And it just it conveys through your voice.
(07:09):
I can feel it, I can hear it.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, we've got it. We've got a church that's not
too far from the house, and every Tuesday they got
a special, a two piece special at a just counted price,
And so I get a couple of those for me
and my wife, and uh, every single employee there now
recognizes me. The minute I walk in the door. They're
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starting to fix the box with that and and the
Okra that I want.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So you think they say there's a white guy coming in,
No think goes good with racial human You know what
they say, if you're somewhere and there's a church that's
closed down, you're somewhere you ain't supposed to be very
brigade activate that Michael Barry show. That song triggers people,
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and I can't figure out why. I'll get emails from
people playing that Trick and Soul and they're mad, like
they're not joking, they're genuinely mad about it. And I
have a suspicion as to why it's not good. It's
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it's not a noble reason why I think. I think
that song triggers some people. Can you find out from
corporate headquarters why they took out the dirty rice? Because
I'm not as Popeyes person. That seems to be kind
of part of Remember they used to have the kind
of pretty black woman, and she was the face of
Popeyes and you know, come on in, I'm gonna cook
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for you kind of thing. They were really pushing the
Louisiana pitch to it, and I don't I'm just curious.
I don't know. I'm not saying this is the case.
I'm just I'm asking the question. I don't think the
Louisiana brand resonates across the country the way the Texas
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brand does. Mind you, I love the Louisiana brand as
much as I do the Texas when I grew up
on the border. I mean, I consider myself half of each.
So I'm not downing Louisiana. But I just don't feel like,
you know, when you say Texas, you get people's attention.
When you say Louisiana. I think you get that in Texas,
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you know, at least as far west as Houston, because
Houston is really West Louisiana, if at least used to
be the number of people who are from Louisiana. I mean,
just reading my emails every day, I always read the
signature line, and it's surprising to me how many people
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the louisi listeners. You would expect, but how many Blussards
and Bourgeois and Bergeron's and all there are? And you know,
you just wonder was it did they come over?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Did their did their parents come over? You just wonder who?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Who?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
But they can because they came from Louisiana. In fact,
this is crazy. You ready for this sit down, for
this remm. I'm visiting with my dad yesterday and he
he doesn't wear his hearing aids, and so I walk
in and it's always so loud and loud noises just
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bother me. So the first thing I do is turn
it down. But yesterday I thought, no, my wife said
how much she had enjoyed watching Duck Dynasty with him,
and Duck Dynasty was on, so I thought, you know what,
I watched Duck Dynasty with him, and let's just see
how he reacts. And somewhere along the way, he says, boy,
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you think these these old boys or not? Boy? He said,
you think these old boys? Uh sound like they're from
West Monroe or what? And I said, oh, yeah, yeah,
And then he said I dated a girl from West Monroe.
Hey what in high school? But what? Okay? Yeah she
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lived in Orange. All right? Of course you know, like
my dad and everybody else, nobody was from Orange. You
just came to Orange, go to work the plants. She's
from West Monroe, h Okay. And then and then they
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I think he went to work in Vinton, but they
stayed in Orange, and I was just like I ever
heard this story before. This is crazy crazy Anyway, I
just don't think the Louisiana brand sells outside our region.
I think probably sells in Mississippi, maybe Alabama, because we
have more of an association with it. But it's not
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like you get to Times Square and you see a
Louisiana kitchen. I mean, I think there is actually a
pop Us there. But the way there is a Texas restaurant.
You go to London, there's a Texas restaurant and it's
just all kitch. Hell. I was in Ethiopia. I was
in Ethiopia and there was a restaurant called Texas Rodeo
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and you walk in and it felt like you were
walking into pinto ranch. I too, it felt like it
felt like you were walking into a Republic Boot Company.
The difference is Republic Boot Company feels like it's been
there one hundred years and there's an art to that
Morgan Weber's got a bar on White Oak or White
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Oak maybe in the Heights called Easy's Letters, and I
will call him and ask him for their monthly liquor sales,
and we just laugh and laugh because it's the least
amount of money they've ever spent on a restaurant. I
mean on a concept. It's a bar, it's on a restaurant.
It's right next to Cultivar. It's the least amount of
money they've ever spent. It's their lowest labor costs because
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they just have a couple of guys slinging beers making cocktails,
and it's they've never marketed nothing. And this thing just
kills it. And he just laughs. He said, math I
could open one hundred of them. I'd be a rich man, Like,
how did this thing hit? But part of the charm
is when you walk in there, it feels like a
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bar from it feels like a bar circa pig stand
era that's just kind of been there forever. There used
to be a place called like Heights Cafe or something
on Houston Avenue, just past the police officers, and it
was right there on the main street, and it looked
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like it could have been there, you know, a hundred
years and and that's what he created there. But anyway,
I'm trying to think there's another place that well, I'll
tell you one is this way is uh, it's over
on Yale. Is it Yale Diner or is it Heights Diner?
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Do you know what I'm talking about? And there's one
down in Paarland too where you can get like a
Yell Street grill. Do you see it. It's on a corner. Yeah,
So Yelle Street Grill is one of those old places
that they don't do anymore, where it can't decide if
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it's going to be a store selling old out of
stock things they bought from TG and Y when they closed,
or if it's going to be a diner. Let's just
do both of them. So when you're sitting here, there'll
be an old Hallmark card that'll hit you on the head.
You know, it'll fall off the shelf. Everything's dusty, everything's
been there forever. Nobody cares. I don't know if any
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of that stuff ever sells or not. Then they have,
you know, a rack of clothes and you go, well,
I don't know, I don't think that's really for the
falls E's and if you know what I mean, maybe
fall eighty one, but it just kind of works. There's
a charm to it. And you know you got a
short order. You got the short order grill over there.
He got fired from waffle House, which is hard to
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do because he'd just gotten out of prison and he
didn't report to his probation officer. So his probation officer
showed up and waffle House was like, we don't need
that kind of drama here. We got enough already from
the customers.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Food chain Poppeys became a victim of its own advertising today.
So many customers lined up for a big special. Some locations,
including one in Penfield, and the city ran out of
chicken tonight. Customers were clucking their disapproval. Customers at the
driving through we're this recorded message, y'all go.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
We are all out, kick in we put ada. Thank
you had a birthday.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Young woman yelled back at the machine that peoples have
kids and they trying.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
To feed whether special and you mean to tell me
that we can't feed our kids if you got shouted
order enough chicken, yall, kne y'all was having a special
almost two.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Months ago and that's wall, but no one was listening.
The Popeyes on Lake Avenue was closed by dinner time.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think that's bad because I'm sure of hungry no chicken,
no chicken. Well, they just had a chicken, I said.
I'm called a.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Customer service spot.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I swear there's another Popeyes there.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They always run out of food sides, whether if it's mats,
chasing gravy colds, they always run out of something.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's very disbur wanted some chicken in the build.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Other locations ran out of chicken too. The four ninety
nine special too good to pass up.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I just left pen filled Popeyes.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
They were out of chicken there.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I ranswered the city to this one and they're out too.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
This is ridiculous. They should have had a stock pile
of chicken for this day.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Oh, they should have attractive tail out back with extra
chicken on ice.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You know, maybe it was the economy that caused the
rush on chicken at.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Their price and this dnage.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You know that is a good deal.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Isn't that sad?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
In this economy, people trying to spend money they don't
want it. I was trying to me my family tonight
can't get that bucket in now, customers felt duped. I'm
never coming back now, I'm serious. I'm done. They gotta
get their stuff together. You know, they put their advertisements
on and then they don't don't show up for it.
You're more disappointed than angry. You know, we've been looking
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forward to this day.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
They advertised it on National TV.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
How you gonna run out of chicken?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
That's all I have to say.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Airy customers there, Pope says the franchises are individually owned
and responsible for ordering their own chicken.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I like the ones that are judging them so much
because you know the businesses they run are well run,
and you know their personal lives are entirely in order tidy,
a place for everything and everything in its place. You
know their stuff. They got their stuff together. Now, why
can't other people? You know there is This didn't always
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used to be the case. You didn't see black people
in Orange when I was growing up. Who if they forgot,
if they forgot to give them their ketchup packet would
come in there and rake everything off the top of
the counter, including the cash regstr You didn't see that,
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You didn't see it. Something changed the blacks I grew
up with. Their mothers were so much harder on them
than even my mother. And that's saying something, because my
mother was harder on us than any I knew, strict
disciplinary but I started at Western Start, so I had
black classmates there, and their parents were tough on them,
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very tough on them and strict, and in fact, it
was a higher standard, which is probably what we've done
with our kids. It was a higher standard because there
was the expect there was the understanding that people expect
you to be less than your white peers, so you
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have to be better to be as good. There can
be no cloud over you. If something is stolen, they're
gonna think you did it. Something's broken, they're gonna think
you did it. If a girl claims that somebody did
something to her, they're gonna think you did it. So
you have to be better than the other kids, because
you don't get a presumption. So that made the blacks
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of my era into better citizens. They tried harder, they
worked harder, they stayed cleaner. I mean, that was it.
And then something changed. This nonsense, this daily nonsense of
going into fast food restaurants and tearing the place up
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because your order is not perfect. That's really not about
to catch up packet. That's a person on edge that
has been taught to rage like that because raging gets
your way. Everybody has been if you live in a city,
everybody has been to a store where the fat black
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lady is cutting up and you make eye contact with
a black person and they'll be like, I swear, I
don't have anything to do with this. I'm as embarrassed
of it as you are. I'm more embarrassed than you are.
They hate it. They've seen it before, just not spilling
out on the West side. They're used to it in
third word, and you'll see this behavior. It's like a
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petulant child. And what happens with the petulant child. It
always blew my mind. These parents you beat a birthday
party and the parent who would go over there kid,
you know, Ethan or Nahaniel or whatever the little private
school names are, it's time to go oh no, no,
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no no, don't get upsetting, no no no. And it
was all about coddling this kid till they they would
try it. And they're trying to save face because they
know the other parents are watching this, but they don't
what they ought to do is pick the kid up
by his ear and swat his ass, walk him to
the car and say you do that again, and it's
going to be ten times worse and shame that kid.
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But they don't dare do that, so they'll say, okay,
all right, okay, we'll stay ten more minutes, but that's it.
And then the kid goes off because the kid knows
the ten minutes is going to do it again. Ten
minutes turns into thirty. He gets his way. Well, that
kid doesn't learn any good life lessons from that. So
when these people, when a criminal justice system doesn't prosecute crime,
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when the private sector doesn't want to deal with them
for fear of being called racist and having an activist
on your front door, you know, Ramon, everybody told Beethoven
he would never be a composer because he was deaf.
Did he listen? They got this new movie out called
(22:37):
Love Your Boom, And in the movie, I'm in there
three times? Did I mention that? Did I mention that wrong?
Three times? So I figured they were going to cut
me out because the day I was interviewing it was
me Archie Manning, Bond Miller and somebody else, I'm not
(23:09):
Archie Peyton. And we did our interview in Denver, and
so when I found out who all was being interviewed,
I thought, well, they don't even give me much play.
Lillo me always getting a short end of the step,
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Lollo me the little engine it could. And then they
changed the concept. So originally it was going to be
three generations of Phillips coaches, Bum, Wade, Wes. I don't
know if that's been done before, certainly not with this
level of success. Wes and Wade both have Super Bowl
rings and Bom, as you know, went to the championship
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game twice and it's fascinating. Well anyway, so then the
movie was bought by different group and they changed it
from celebrating the Phillips lineage to being about Phillips and
they it's love you, Bum, and I thought, well they
cut me out. So they said, hey, would you like
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to do an interview on air? Everybody that is in
it has said they'd be glad to talk to you,
and I said, nah, I'm not in it. I thought
I was going to be in it. They said, you're
in it, So they sent me the screen there and
I'm not the kind of person that's going to watch
a movie looking for myself. But Michael Berry show.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Jello brand pudding pops, maybe the goodness of real jello pudding.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The listener asked me, what happened to Diddy? Where did
he end up? Sex predator, sex addict, freak show Diddy?
And so I looked, he's at Fort Dix. No, I'm serious,
that's where he is. What I just realized, you are
(25:03):
so childish? My goodness, a lie? Do you know where
Dixie comes from? It was a bank in New Orleans.
I'm gonna get one out of one hundred and forty
seven details of this story wrong, and there's gonna be
somebody just relishing writing to me it's not true. Michael.
(25:23):
You said he came out of the bank, turned right,
he turned left. There's somebody that's gonna be so proud
of it. But I'm gonna tell the story anyway. Here
we go. There was a bank in New Orleans and
they issued a note and it was the Dix or
I guess probably the d I don't know how it
was pronounced dix. It had a French origin, and that
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became sort of recognized as Southern currency, the land where
Southern currency was passed became Dixie like Christendom for Christianity,
Dixie came the place where the Dick's note was passed.
Why are you not looking at me?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
What do you?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
What do you? Uh? And a whole car that I
nw Oh yeah, no, I remember that Ramon had an
old car that he named Dixie and it was sad
because he wrecked it and he had to tell his wife,
my Dixie wrecked, and you know she was not happy
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about that. Of course, who would be? Kimberly writes Tzar.
My brother, Ken Walmack developed the church's Chicken got to
Love It ad campaign back in the day, featuring the
woman and her dog that was so popular for years.
He modeled her after our beloved housekeeper Bbe that raised us.
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First thing she'd do when she got to our house
was take off her wig. Lol. I always loved those
ads because the actress looked a lot like bb. I
just watched a few. If it didn't bring tears to
my eyes, I'll call you one day and tell you
more about Ken and his current endeavors. He's an interesting guy.
And then she links me to Kenwalmack dot com and
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signs it Kim, Kim and Ken. Why do people do that? Rama?
What do you think about when people name their kids
all the same initial like Chris, Kurt Colin, Kayleban? What
do you think about that you don't have a problem with.
What do you think about people who name their children
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out of characters from Lonesome Dove? You go with that's
that's a class move on your part. Michael Barry Show,
Can we help you?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Hi? Tell Michael that I call BS on his explanation
of Dixie ask him to ask him to comment about
the Mason Dixon line.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Thanks a lot. The best part about that call is
Ramone's pretty even kill. Pearl Jim wrote the song even
Flow about Ramon early in his career. Very little rattles,
very little, but when people call, he's got to shift
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in his seat over to a whole different console, and
he's got like eight screens in front of him already,
and I'm pulling on him over here, and and you
have to realize it'd be like being Dan Pastorini's pit chief.
You know, you got a pit crew trying to do this,
and your your your client is Dan Pastorini. You can
imagine it probably wouldn't be very easy to do, because
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he'd be driving you crazy, literally, But people will call
and he has to shift over and go over there
and get and they'll say tell Michael that, and he'll go, ho,
hold on, I'll let you tell him now, don't talk,
just tell him as if he's just gonna sit and
take messages all day. And during the break, Hey, Bob
(28:57):
wants you to know that Marlboro Reds costs a little
more than gold. Susie wanted you to know that it's
really makes some dick some mone which is where the
dix comes from. It's not the Dick's note out of
New Orleans. And he calls BS on that, and then
Greg wants you to know that, like, why would we
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do that? What would be the purpose of discussing anything
that we talk on the air off the air, But
it it makes him irrationally angry, which I must admit
I kind of find funny. There is something, there is
something funny about that we're gonna play some music. I
was looking for this story I was going to tell
(29:38):
you about. I can't find it. Can we close with
that with that chicken story? Because each one of them, individually,
what the the man on the street pissed off chicken,
people say is funny and it's own right.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Go ahead, shake pop Bines became a victim of its
own advertising today, so many customers lined up for a
big special. Some locations, including one in Penfield, and the
city ran out of chicken tonight. Customers were clucking their disapproval.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Customers at the drawing through were this recorded message.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
We are called for today, thank you and a good day.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Hold on, hold on. I don't recall that always being
the case, but black women today the blessed thing. That's
a that's a big one. They'll cuss you out and
then tell you to be blessed. I was at a
grocery store the other day and this woman clearly did
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not did not like her job. And I asked her
a question and sheerated, and as I'm leaving, it was
almost like she thought I was going to put in
a complainer, and she said, I have a blessed day.
I thought, well, that was kind of kind of a
non sequitor from where we were. Okay, all right, go ahead,
young woman yelled back at the machine.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Peoples have kids that they're trying to feed for the special,
and you mean to tell me that we can't feed
our kids.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Chicken out there? It is you mean to tell me
we can't feed our kids. That is American culture today.
No matter how much the President brags that were the
greatest nation in the world looks to us, we are
still no better than the weakest link. We are still
arguing with people who were mad at Popeye's that if
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Popeyes doesn't do the chicken special and runs out of chicken,
they cannot feed their kids. That was the only option,
was Popeye's.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Hundred y'all was having a special almost two.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Months ago, and that's wrong. No one was listening.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
More.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Signs on Lake Avenue was closed by dinner time.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I think that's bad because I'm sure of hungry no chicken,
no chicken.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
They just had a chicken right there, caught of no chicken?
Are they just out of chicken? Sir? I'm I must
we are having a failure to communicate. Can you tell
me the difference in your question in your mind between
no chicken and they just out of chicken? What would
(32:23):
be Sorry, sir, we don't have any chicken. Wait, wait,
what you mean y'all have no chicken? Do you mean
y'all don't have no chicken. Are you just out of chicken?
Uh uh well,
It's that time time time, time, Luck and load. The
Michael Verie Show is on the air. I got a
(00:29):
message from Plus Saunders in our newsroom and he said,
Erica Smith is the name of the new weekend anchor.
I listened to most of her casts. I'm pretty sure
I didn't hear her say that. The guy called and
said that she said millions of people had died in
the Caribbean during the storm, but he is pulling that
(00:51):
news report to see if in fact she did or not.
I'm not saying it makes it okay, but apparently she
is a newbie, so I would imagine, and if she
did say it, pretty sure she knows better. I'm pretty
sure she was nervous. And I'm not saying that you
shouldn't have to be accurate, but that would that would
(01:12):
count for.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I got a message from Chris Sitz who said, you
were talking about al Copeland. When Doctor John was down
and out in the early eighties, al Copeland hired him
to develop a jingle for Popeye's commercials. Doctor John came
up with love that Chicken from Popeyes and sang the
jingle and Popeyes commercials for several years. Kennedy you're ready
(01:41):
for a Yeah, they just make a part of mind.
(02:08):
I never realized that was doctor John. Did you that's crazy?
You know who he sounds like? There? Uh, one of
the PBS special How a Bill Becomes a Law? Can
(02:33):
you pull? How a bill becomes a law? That was
quality educational entertainment right there. That's right up there with
Time for Timer. You remember Time for Timer? Oh that
was quality. Yeah, put that on the button bars and
you know you got it. Oh, here we go, Here
we go. You sure got to climb a lot of
(02:55):
stuffs to get to this Capitol building here in Washington.
I wonder who that's at use scrap of papers. I'm
just a bill. Yes, I'm only a bill, and I'm
sitting here on catint John. It's all long longer. I
love doctor John, which is why it kind of hurt
(03:16):
my feelings a little bit when the bid came out.
That the way the way it works is these booking
agents will send you, hey, here's what we have coming
out for the next six months, and then there'll be
the price next to them. Some of them don't do
the price. I hate that. Don't you hate that? I'm
obsessed with real estate and wherever we go, I will
(03:38):
look on the window of the properties for sell there.
But if they don't put the price, because their thought
is we don't give you the price, you'll have to
come in and then we got you. No, No, I
just won't look. It might have been less than I
thought it was. You might be losing a deal. But anyway,
the order came in for doctor John and it wasn't horrible.
(04:02):
In fact, it was lower than you would have expected.
It was like ten grand. And so I think Richard
Gandy was doing our booking at the time, and I said, hey, well,
here's here's who I want from the list of Bellamie brothers,
whoever he had. He didn't have Bellerie brothers. Don Mary
Grubbs did. But anyway, whoever was handling doctor John had
(04:23):
a roster of artists kind of liked Doctor John. Louisiana's
LaRue and maybe Exile and and stuff like that from
that era of that style. And so he, uh, the
next week he goes, all right, so we got this,
We're gonna do this, We're gonna do this. And so
I'm looking at the list and I said, well, did
(04:43):
you ask about Doctor John. I asked you to ask
about doctor John. Yeah, that's we're not going to make
that work. And I said, we'll find another day, we'll
make it work. I want doctor John. And he kept
him in it hauling because he didn't want to hurt
my feelings and so little did he know. I kind
of got a charge out of it. So I said,
what's the issue and he said, well, he said he
(05:06):
would never play here, and I said, well, that's stupid.
I guess he doesn't like the redneck country club name.
He doesn't like you. Wait what Yeah, apparently he really
really doesn't like you. And he had some choice words
(05:28):
for why he would never play here. I said, there's
really only two things he could say that would make
me happy. Yes, I'll play under your terms, or I
hate you. You're horrible. I've wasted time in my life
thinking about not liking you. That's as good as him playing,
and it costs me a lot less. Thank you. I
have a good story for the rest of my life.
That's true. That's a true story. Bill. Yes, Sir Ramo said,
(05:52):
you're eighty two. Yeah, and you know what he told me.
You said take that one fast.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, you talked about churches and Popeye is Popeye had
bought churches. I was introduced to churches when Uncle Sam
brought me to Texas in nineteen sixty four. And that's
their whole office with San Antonio, and my god, it
was the best deal in town. Fifty cents to get
you two big pieces of the chicken and a biscuit.
(06:23):
And they cut those chickens on a saw. They did
not debone them the way that we would break down
a chicken to go at home. And so you got
two big pieces of the chicken and that biscuit for
fifty cents. It was the best deal in town.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Bill, I turned my microphone off so I could listen
to you. I could just listen to you reminisce all
day long.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
There's a kind of a happiness to your voice and
the way you tell stories. And I can see you
that in your mind's eye, you're going back to that
time and handing them your fifty cents and can't wait
to sit down and eat your your chicken, and you're
happy about it. And it just it conveys through your voice.
(07:09):
I can feel it, I can hear it.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, we've got it. We've got a church that's not
too far from the house, and every Tuesday they got
a special, a two piece special at a just counted price,
And so I get a couple of those for me
and my wife, and uh, every single employee there now
recognizes me. The minute I walk in the door. They're
(07:34):
starting to fix the box with that and and the
Okra that I want.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So you think they say there's a white guy coming in,
No think goes good with racial human You know what
they say, if you're somewhere and there's a church that's
closed down, you're somewhere you ain't supposed to be very
brigade activate that Michael Barry show. That song triggers people,
(08:06):
and I can't figure out why. I'll get emails from
people playing that Trick and Soul and they're mad, like
they're not joking, they're genuinely mad about it. And I
have a suspicion as to why it's not good. It's
(08:27):
it's not a noble reason why I think. I think
that song triggers some people. Can you find out from
corporate headquarters why they took out the dirty rice? Because
I'm not as Popeyes person. That seems to be kind
of part of Remember they used to have the kind
of pretty black woman, and she was the face of
Popeyes and you know, come on in, I'm gonna cook
(08:50):
for you kind of thing. They were really pushing the
Louisiana pitch to it, and I don't I'm just curious.
I don't know. I'm not saying this is the case.
I'm just I'm asking the question. I don't think the
Louisiana brand resonates across the country the way the Texas
(09:13):
brand does. Mind you, I love the Louisiana brand as
much as I do the Texas when I grew up
on the border. I mean, I consider myself half of each.
So I'm not downing Louisiana. But I just don't feel like,
you know, when you say Texas, you get people's attention.
When you say Louisiana. I think you get that in Texas,
(09:37):
you know, at least as far west as Houston, because
Houston is really West Louisiana, if at least used to
be the number of people who are from Louisiana. I mean,
just reading my emails every day, I always read the
signature line, and it's surprising to me how many people
(09:59):
the louisi listeners. You would expect, but how many Blussards
and Bourgeois and Bergeron's and all there are? And you know,
you just wonder was it did they come over?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Did their did their parents come over? You just wonder who?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Who?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
But they can because they came from Louisiana. In fact,
this is crazy. You ready for this sit down, for
this remm. I'm visiting with my dad yesterday and he
he doesn't wear his hearing aids, and so I walk
in and it's always so loud and loud noises just
(10:42):
bother me. So the first thing I do is turn
it down. But yesterday I thought, no, my wife said
how much she had enjoyed watching Duck Dynasty with him,
and Duck Dynasty was on, so I thought, you know what,
I watched Duck Dynasty with him, and let's just see
how he reacts. And somewhere along the way, he says, boy,
(11:04):
you think these these old boys or not? Boy? He said,
you think these old boys? Uh sound like they're from
West Monroe or what? And I said, oh, yeah, yeah,
And then he said I dated a girl from West Monroe.
Hey what in high school? But what? Okay? Yeah she
(11:34):
lived in Orange. All right? Of course you know, like
my dad and everybody else, nobody was from Orange. You
just came to Orange, go to work the plants. She's
from West Monroe, h Okay. And then and then they
(11:56):
I think he went to work in Vinton, but they
stayed in Orange, and I was just like I ever
heard this story before. This is crazy crazy Anyway, I
just don't think the Louisiana brand sells outside our region.
I think probably sells in Mississippi, maybe Alabama, because we
have more of an association with it. But it's not
(12:16):
like you get to Times Square and you see a
Louisiana kitchen. I mean, I think there is actually a
pop Us there. But the way there is a Texas restaurant.
You go to London, there's a Texas restaurant and it's
just all kitch. Hell. I was in Ethiopia. I was
in Ethiopia and there was a restaurant called Texas Rodeo
(12:37):
and you walk in and it felt like you were
walking into pinto ranch. I too, it felt like it
felt like you were walking into a Republic Boot Company.
The difference is Republic Boot Company feels like it's been
there one hundred years and there's an art to that
Morgan Weber's got a bar on White Oak or White
(12:57):
Oak maybe in the Heights called Easy's Letters, and I
will call him and ask him for their monthly liquor sales,
and we just laugh and laugh because it's the least
amount of money they've ever spent on a restaurant. I
mean on a concept. It's a bar, it's on a restaurant.
It's right next to Cultivar. It's the least amount of
money they've ever spent. It's their lowest labor costs because
(13:21):
they just have a couple of guys slinging beers making cocktails,
and it's they've never marketed nothing. And this thing just
kills it. And he just laughs. He said, math I
could open one hundred of them. I'd be a rich man, Like,
how did this thing hit? But part of the charm
is when you walk in there, it feels like a
(13:42):
bar from it feels like a bar circa pig stand
era that's just kind of been there forever. There used
to be a place called like Heights Cafe or something
on Houston Avenue, just past the police officers, and it
was right there on the main street, and it looked
(14:04):
like it could have been there, you know, a hundred
years and and that's what he created there. But anyway,
I'm trying to think there's another place that well, I'll
tell you one is this way is uh, it's over
on Yale. Is it Yale Diner or is it Heights Diner?
(14:28):
Do you know what I'm talking about? And there's one
down in Paarland too where you can get like a
Yell Street grill. Do you see it. It's on a corner. Yeah,
So Yelle Street Grill is one of those old places
that they don't do anymore, where it can't decide if
(14:49):
it's going to be a store selling old out of
stock things they bought from TG and Y when they closed,
or if it's going to be a diner. Let's just
do both of them. So when you're sitting here, there'll
be an old Hallmark card that'll hit you on the head.
You know, it'll fall off the shelf. Everything's dusty, everything's
been there forever. Nobody cares. I don't know if any
(15:13):
of that stuff ever sells or not. Then they have,
you know, a rack of clothes and you go, well,
I don't know, I don't think that's really for the
falls E's and if you know what I mean, maybe
fall eighty one, but it just kind of works. There's
a charm to it. And you know you got a
short order. You got the short order grill over there.
He got fired from waffle House, which is hard to
(15:34):
do because he'd just gotten out of prison and he
didn't report to his probation officer. So his probation officer
showed up and waffle House was like, we don't need
that kind of drama here. We got enough already from
the customers.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Food chain Poppeys became a victim of its own advertising today.
So many customers lined up for a big special. Some locations,
including one in Penfield, and the city ran out of
chicken tonight. Customers were clucking their disapproval. Customers at the
driving through we're this recorded message, y'all go.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
We are all out, kick in we put ada. Thank
you had a birthday.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Young woman yelled back at the machine that peoples have
kids and they trying.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
To feed whether special and you mean to tell me
that we can't feed our kids if you got shouted
order enough chicken, yall, kne y'all was having a special
almost two.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Months ago and that's wall, but no one was listening.
The Popeyes on Lake Avenue was closed by dinner time.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I think that's bad because I'm sure of hungry no chicken,
no chicken. Well, they just had a chicken, I said.
I'm called a.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Customer service spot.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I swear there's another Popeyes there.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They always run out of food sides, whether if it's mats,
chasing gravy colds, they always run out of something.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's very disbur wanted some chicken in the build.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Other locations ran out of chicken too. The four ninety
nine special too good to pass up.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I just left pen filled Popeyes.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
They were out of chicken there.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I ranswered the city to this one and they're out too.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
This is ridiculous. They should have had a stock pile
of chicken for this day.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Oh, they should have attractive tail out back with extra
chicken on ice.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You know, maybe it was the economy that caused the
rush on chicken at.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Their price and this dnage.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You know that is a good deal.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Isn't that sad?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
In this economy, people trying to spend money they don't
want it. I was trying to me my family tonight
can't get that bucket in now, customers felt duped. I'm
never coming back now, I'm serious. I'm done. They gotta
get their stuff together. You know, they put their advertisements
on and then they don't don't show up for it.
You're more disappointed than angry. You know, we've been looking
(17:41):
forward to this day.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
They advertised it on National TV.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
How you gonna run out of chicken?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
That's all I have to say.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Airy customers there, Pope says the franchises are individually owned
and responsible for ordering their own chicken.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I like the ones that are judging them so much
because you know the businesses they run are well run,
and you know their personal lives are entirely in order tidy,
a place for everything and everything in its place. You
know their stuff. They got their stuff together. Now, why
can't other people? You know there is This didn't always
(18:26):
used to be the case. You didn't see black people
in Orange when I was growing up. Who if they forgot,
if they forgot to give them their ketchup packet would
come in there and rake everything off the top of
the counter, including the cash regstr You didn't see that,
(18:47):
You didn't see it. Something changed the blacks I grew
up with. Their mothers were so much harder on them
than even my mother. And that's saying something, because my
mother was harder on us than any I knew, strict
disciplinary but I started at Western Start, so I had
black classmates there, and their parents were tough on them,
(19:12):
very tough on them and strict, and in fact, it
was a higher standard, which is probably what we've done
with our kids. It was a higher standard because there
was the expect there was the understanding that people expect
you to be less than your white peers, so you
(19:33):
have to be better to be as good. There can
be no cloud over you. If something is stolen, they're
gonna think you did it. Something's broken, they're gonna think
you did it. If a girl claims that somebody did
something to her, they're gonna think you did it. So
you have to be better than the other kids, because
you don't get a presumption. So that made the blacks
(19:55):
of my era into better citizens. They tried harder, they
worked harder, they stayed cleaner. I mean, that was it.
And then something changed. This nonsense, this daily nonsense of
going into fast food restaurants and tearing the place up
(20:15):
because your order is not perfect. That's really not about
to catch up packet. That's a person on edge that
has been taught to rage like that because raging gets
your way. Everybody has been if you live in a city,
everybody has been to a store where the fat black
(20:37):
lady is cutting up and you make eye contact with
a black person and they'll be like, I swear, I
don't have anything to do with this. I'm as embarrassed
of it as you are. I'm more embarrassed than you are.
They hate it. They've seen it before, just not spilling
out on the West side. They're used to it in
third word, and you'll see this behavior. It's like a
(20:58):
petulant child. And what happens with the petulant child. It
always blew my mind. These parents you beat a birthday
party and the parent who would go over there kid,
you know, Ethan or Nahaniel or whatever the little private
school names are, it's time to go oh no, no,
(21:20):
no no, don't get upsetting, no no no. And it
was all about coddling this kid till they they would
try it. And they're trying to save face because they
know the other parents are watching this, but they don't
what they ought to do is pick the kid up
by his ear and swat his ass, walk him to
the car and say you do that again, and it's
going to be ten times worse and shame that kid.
(21:43):
But they don't dare do that, so they'll say, okay,
all right, okay, we'll stay ten more minutes, but that's it.
And then the kid goes off because the kid knows
the ten minutes is going to do it again. Ten
minutes turns into thirty. He gets his way. Well, that
kid doesn't learn any good life lessons from that. So
when these people, when a criminal justice system doesn't prosecute crime,
(22:08):
when the private sector doesn't want to deal with them
for fear of being called racist and having an activist
on your front door, you know, Ramon, everybody told Beethoven
he would never be a composer because he was deaf.
Did he listen? They got this new movie out called
(22:37):
Love Your Boom, And in the movie, I'm in there
three times? Did I mention that? Did I mention that wrong?
Three times? So I figured they were going to cut
me out because the day I was interviewing it was
me Archie Manning, Bond Miller and somebody else, I'm not
(23:09):
Archie Peyton. And we did our interview in Denver, and
so when I found out who all was being interviewed,
I thought, well, they don't even give me much play.
Lillo me always getting a short end of the step,
(23:30):
Lollo me the little engine it could. And then they
changed the concept. So originally it was going to be
three generations of Phillips coaches, Bum, Wade, Wes. I don't
know if that's been done before, certainly not with this
level of success. Wes and Wade both have Super Bowl
rings and Bom, as you know, went to the championship
(23:52):
game twice and it's fascinating. Well anyway, so then the
movie was bought by different group and they changed it
from celebrating the Phillips lineage to being about Phillips and
they it's love you, Bum, and I thought, well they
cut me out. So they said, hey, would you like
(24:14):
to do an interview on air? Everybody that is in
it has said they'd be glad to talk to you,
and I said, nah, I'm not in it. I thought
I was going to be in it. They said, you're
in it, So they sent me the screen there and
I'm not the kind of person that's going to watch
a movie looking for myself. But Michael Berry show.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Jello brand pudding pops, maybe the goodness of real jello pudding.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The listener asked me, what happened to Diddy? Where did
he end up? Sex predator, sex addict, freak show Diddy?
And so I looked, he's at Fort Dix. No, I'm serious,
that's where he is. What I just realized, you are
(25:03):
so childish? My goodness, a lie? Do you know where
Dixie comes from? It was a bank in New Orleans.
I'm gonna get one out of one hundred and forty
seven details of this story wrong, and there's gonna be
somebody just relishing writing to me it's not true. Michael.
(25:23):
You said he came out of the bank, turned right,
he turned left. There's somebody that's gonna be so proud
of it. But I'm gonna tell the story anyway. Here
we go. There was a bank in New Orleans and
they issued a note and it was the Dix or
I guess probably the d I don't know how it
was pronounced dix. It had a French origin, and that
(25:45):
became sort of recognized as Southern currency, the land where
Southern currency was passed became Dixie like Christendom for Christianity,
Dixie came the place where the Dick's note was passed.
Why are you not looking at me?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
What do you?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
What do you? Uh? And a whole car that I
nw Oh yeah, no, I remember that Ramon had an
old car that he named Dixie and it was sad
because he wrecked it and he had to tell his wife,
my Dixie wrecked, and you know she was not happy
(26:28):
about that. Of course, who would be? Kimberly writes Tzar.
My brother, Ken Walmack developed the church's Chicken got to
Love It ad campaign back in the day, featuring the
woman and her dog that was so popular for years.
He modeled her after our beloved housekeeper Bbe that raised us.
(26:49):
First thing she'd do when she got to our house
was take off her wig. Lol. I always loved those
ads because the actress looked a lot like bb. I
just watched a few. If it didn't bring tears to
my eyes, I'll call you one day and tell you
more about Ken and his current endeavors. He's an interesting guy.
And then she links me to Kenwalmack dot com and
(27:12):
signs it Kim, Kim and Ken. Why do people do that? Rama?
What do you think about when people name their kids
all the same initial like Chris, Kurt Colin, Kayleban? What
do you think about that you don't have a problem with.
What do you think about people who name their children
(27:33):
out of characters from Lonesome Dove? You go with that's
that's a class move on your part. Michael Barry Show,
Can we help you?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Hi? Tell Michael that I call BS on his explanation
of Dixie ask him to ask him to comment about
the Mason Dixon line.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Thanks a lot. The best part about that call is
Ramone's pretty even kill. Pearl Jim wrote the song even
Flow about Ramon early in his career. Very little rattles,
very little, but when people call, he's got to shift
(28:14):
in his seat over to a whole different console, and
he's got like eight screens in front of him already,
and I'm pulling on him over here, and and you
have to realize it'd be like being Dan Pastorini's pit chief.
You know, you got a pit crew trying to do this,
and your your your client is Dan Pastorini. You can
imagine it probably wouldn't be very easy to do, because
(28:36):
he'd be driving you crazy, literally, But people will call
and he has to shift over and go over there
and get and they'll say tell Michael that, and he'll go, ho,
hold on, I'll let you tell him now, don't talk,
just tell him as if he's just gonna sit and
take messages all day. And during the break, Hey, Bob
(28:57):
wants you to know that Marlboro Reds costs a little
more than gold. Susie wanted you to know that it's
really makes some dick some mone which is where the
dix comes from. It's not the Dick's note out of
New Orleans. And he calls BS on that, and then
Greg wants you to know that, like, why would we
(29:17):
do that? What would be the purpose of discussing anything
that we talk on the air off the air, But
it it makes him irrationally angry, which I must admit
I kind of find funny. There is something, there is
something funny about that we're gonna play some music. I
was looking for this story I was going to tell
(29:38):
you about. I can't find it. Can we close with
that with that chicken story? Because each one of them, individually,
what the the man on the street pissed off chicken,
people say is funny and it's own right.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Go ahead, shake pop Bines became a victim of its
own advertising today, so many customers lined up for a
big special. Some locations, including one in Penfield, and the
city ran out of chicken tonight. Customers were clucking their disapproval.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Customers at the drawing through were this recorded message.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
We are called for today, thank you and a good day.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Hold on, hold on. I don't recall that always being
the case, but black women today the blessed thing. That's
a that's a big one. They'll cuss you out and
then tell you to be blessed. I was at a
grocery store the other day and this woman clearly did
(30:44):
not did not like her job. And I asked her
a question and sheerated, and as I'm leaving, it was
almost like she thought I was going to put in
a complainer, and she said, I have a blessed day.
I thought, well, that was kind of kind of a
non sequitor from where we were. Okay, all right, go ahead,
young woman yelled back at the machine.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Peoples have kids that they're trying to feed for the special,
and you mean to tell me that we can't feed
our kids.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Chicken out there? It is you mean to tell me
we can't feed our kids. That is American culture today.
No matter how much the President brags that were the
greatest nation in the world looks to us, we are
still no better than the weakest link. We are still
arguing with people who were mad at Popeye's that if
(31:34):
Popeyes doesn't do the chicken special and runs out of chicken,
they cannot feed their kids. That was the only option,
was Popeye's.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Hundred y'all was having a special almost two.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Months ago, and that's wrong. No one was listening.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
More.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Signs on Lake Avenue was closed by dinner time.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I think that's bad because I'm sure of hungry no chicken,
no chicken.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
They just had a chicken right there, caught of no chicken?
Are they just out of chicken? Sir? I'm I must
we are having a failure to communicate. Can you tell
me the difference in your question in your mind between
no chicken and they just out of chicken? What would
(32:23):
be Sorry, sir, we don't have any chicken. Wait, wait,
what you mean y'all have no chicken? Do you mean
y'all don't have no chicken. Are you just out of chicken?
Uh uh well,
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