January 8, 2026 • 32 mins
Attorney General Ken Paxton joins the show for a candid conversation on defending ICE agents, immigration enforcement, Big Tech data‑privacy battles, fluoride safety agreements, and his clashes with Texas’ political establishment. Michael also dives into local crime stories, teen violence in Baytown, and the cultural shifts shaping today’s Texas.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Arry Show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So in general the Great State of Texas, Ken Paxton
is our guest, uh General Paxton. Earlier we had Congressman
Wesley Hunt on the show. And I will start with
the same type of questions to keep it relatively consistent.
Concerning middle names, you were born Warren Kenneth Paxton Junior.
And I'm curious why you didn't stick with Warren that.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, my dad, my father went by Warren, so I
didn't really choose that. It just happened with my parents.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Were you ever.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No, Oh, it was actually younger and my cousins still
call me it's Kenny and where I don't like these
words transitions, but I transitioned to Ken. But yeah, it
was from like, I don't remember ever being called Warren
unless my mother was mad at me Warren.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I will stick with the theme of the big story
of the day, the ice agent, the woman trying to
kill him in her in her vehicle in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Your thoughts, look, I think when when something like that happens,
these ice agents have to defend themselves, they have to
protect other people. I applaud them for doing that. What
she was doing was absolutely wrong and crazy, and the
consequences are there for her.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Our federal agents, our law enforcement generally have not received
the support of our politicians, our media, our cultural leaders.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And I think that is unfair. I think he's wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think it's bad for public safety. Your thoughts as
a future US senator?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, I think that spend true of many cities, even
I mean like in the city of Austin, where I
spend a lot of time, where my offices are. You know,
they defunded the police, took away a third of their funding,
made it much more difficult for them to go after crime.
And of course you have a DA there that doesn't
really prosecute crime anyway, pushed by George Soros. And then,
of course, you know, our ice agents were co opted
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for four years by the Biden administration and instead of
enforcing federal immigration laws, they were told not to and
they were told to help the cartels get illegals here
as quickly and expeditiously as possible. Completely unconstitutional, wrong, which
is why I had so many lawsuits against the Biden administration.
But it's unfortunate that the last seemingly does not support
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law enforcement and does not support the enforcement of our
laws and the protection of our people, and they encourage lawlessness.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You have been the most active Attorney General in my
lifetime at bringing cases against guys, and I think this
just broke.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Did I see this.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I don't have a date on it, but Attorney General
kN packs and Secure's major agreement with Crest toothpaste manufacturer
to protect children from executive fluoride exposure one of these
I just looked a few minutes ago and just.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Come out that was today was we just released that
right before the show. A matter of fact, I've not
talked to anybody about that. We already had one with
Colgate in September, and the research shows that over exposure
to florid, especially for young kids all the way up
to age six, is dangerous to their metal development. In
knowing that research, these companies continued to advertise the use
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of a large amount of toothpaste and therefore large amounts
of fluoride, And so we started investigations of those companies,
Colgate and Crest, and we got an agreement from Colgate
back in September, and now we've got an agreement from
Crest to stop advertising large uses or uses that are
too great for young kids so that they'll be safe. Obviously,
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you want to protect your teeth. At the same time,
you don't want to overuse something that can be harmful
to development view yeaes.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The Trump administration, particularly Health Secretary Robert Kennedy, has been
very clear on that what started as a conspiracy there,
like most other things, has turned out to be based
in science and fact. December seventeenth, you said I secured
a court order stopping a CCP aligned smart TV company
from spying on Texans. The days of Chinese tech companies
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spying on America's televisions are over.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yes, so that was high sense. It's a Chinese television manufacturer.
There's another one, TCL that we sued. There's three other
from other places, I think, namely South Korea that we
sued to stop them because they record, like every five
hundred milliseconds, They record and take note of what you're watching,
and then they use it information without your consent or knowledge.
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They sell that information to whoever wants that information. What
we argue in the lawsuit is that they have an
obligation if they're going to record that information, they have
an obligation one to disclose that and to provide a
way out of it opt out. That is reasonable because
right now opting out is even if you knew, is
not an easy process. So that is our complaint, and
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we feel like it's unfair to Texas consumers to not
know that everything they're watching is being recorded and sent
somewhere else around the world, even potentially to the Chinese,
likely to the Chinese a headline.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Attorney General Ken Paxton detains fifty illegal aliens in raids
throughout the Houston area the Texas Office of the Attorney
General's Criminal Investigation Division. Attorney General Paxton became the first
Texas law enforcement entity during President Trump's second term to
sign a two eighty seven g agreement which enabled the
Office of the Attorney General to formally assess with and
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facilitate the master deportation of illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think you led the charge on that issue.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes, we did. As matter of fact, when I was
in the Texas House, I was trying to pass the
legislation that allowed the state to do that in conjunction
with the Sedtle government, so that we could maximize enforcement
of our immigration laws because clearly there are never going
to be enough agents in federal or state. So by
adding our little two hundred and twenty five or so
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law enforcement agents, when they're out doing their jobs and
they find that somebody is here illegally, we can now
in conjunction with the federal government, turn them over and
have them deport it. So we're a force multiplier for
the Trump administration and enforcing immigration laws, which is exactly
the opposite of what the Biden administration was doing.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And a reminder for anyone who doesn't remember that John
Cornyn was once the attorney general of the state of
Texas and never did such things. In fact, when I
say that Paxton is the most active attorney general in
my lifetime, that includes Greg Abbott, that includes John Cornyn
before him, John Cornyn was not such an active attorney general.
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He was securing funds to run for the United States Senate,
not doing his job. You have upset the Republican establishment,
the Karl Robes. You defeated a Bush in a campaign
you ran for speaker when the other candidate had the
Democrats support.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You have offended.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
The TLR crowd. You have offended the establishment crowd. You've
offended the Bush crowd. And in so doing, I think
a lot of the base has recognized exactly what is
going on. It's going to be very interesting to see
how this plays out because Cornyn has that established money
and he has that establishment support, and you have always
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been the outsider that the only people that were for
you were voters in everyday Texans.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And this is going to be the.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
First pitched battle that we've seen with a challenger to
a rhino establishment sitting incumbent where the challenger and now too,
but where the challenger has name id and a track
record and some money. But it's going to be very fascinating.
Can you hold with us for just a moment?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The Attorney General State of Texas, Kim Paxson is our guest.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Quinnans Flop Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The Attorney General Kim Paxton is our guest.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He is a candidate for the United States Senate along
with Wesley Hunt, the seat that is currently held by
John Cornyan, the incumbent for over twenty years, who was
running for reelection. I want to talk for a moment
about why the establishment went after you, and I've seen
it since you were back in the House and ran
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for Speaker against the Speaker candidate that was supported by
all the Democrats. I've seen it in the Senate then
you where you dared run again and star candidate. I've
seen it in the Attorney General's race where you dared
run against a Bush family member and Karl Rove got
very involved.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And now I'm seeing it in this Senate race.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I traced the same names, the same interest the same rhinos,
the same establishments, the same tactics through it all.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No, it's it's absolutely true. And we saw that even
in my impeachment. Carl Road was tied to that. TLR
was tied to that. They had people in my office
they were communicating with and worked with. They were tied
to the Biden administration. Even the Biden administration sent people,
you know, lawyers to help the Republicans to their impeachment.
So this was a it wasn't just the Republicans, also Democrats,
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and they were all aligned. Obviously had had different interests.
I was suiting the Biden administration, you know, two or
three times a month, and obviously the Carl Rove and
the Bushes had other plans for the first age race
against Tan Branch, who very close ally of col Road,
and George Bush. But also then of course they ran
George P. Bush against me. So it's kind of shocking
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to me because I spent a lot of my time
helping raise money and working for campaigns for the Bushes,
both the father and George w And it was shocking
to me to find such resistance and really the use
of the legal system to try to take me out
when they couldn't win at the ballot box.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well drunk dates, not in the state House, not leaving
the state House anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
So I guess there is justice to all of this.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
One of the cases you brought, I'll look at the headline,
Paxton lawsuit against East Plano Islamic Center, EPIC and the
Meadow Project formerly Epic City. You have said that is
about violations of the law, not religious differences.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
What happened there.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, So we're still we sued them over security law
violations because we believe that they violated both state and
federal security laws. And so we're in the middle of
that lawsuit. It hasn't progressed past filing. We haven't really
had any significant hearing yet, but we are on course
to stop them from continuing to operate outside the law.
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And as you said, we are a First Amendment country,
but we are not a Shuria law country. And there
is a distinction between defending First Amendment rights to free
speech and religious liberty and imposing or pushing another set
of laws outside of state and federal and constitutional laws.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You sued and won a settlement with Meta, which is Facebook,
for one point four billion dollars. They agreed to pay
the State of Texas the taxpayers for unlawfully capturing and
using biometric data facial recognition.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yes, it was a it's actually a lawsuit that I
brought to my office. I've seen it. I knew that
we had a pretty strong state law that prevented them
from stealing our faces without our consent and then also
retaining that information and selling that information. And clearly Meta
violated those laws. And so it was a complicated case.
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It took a lot of money because you have to
hire a lot of experts, and it's a complicated sort
of legal and financial structure. But we were able to
successfully after a couple of years, settle with them because
it was clear and they knew it that they had
violated our state laws. And so yeah, the taxpayers of
text its benefited, and the legislature now has another one
point four billion dollars that they could use to benefit
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the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You had a record setting settlement for Google's violations of
Texan's data privacy rights, including unauthorized collection of our location data,
even when we opted out, one of the biggest data
privacy enforcements. It was called one of the biggest data
privacy enforcements by any single state.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
One point three seven five billion in with Google. Does
that get their attention?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yes, it does. They didn't want to go to trial
for sure, because you know, we have more discovery and
there's no doubt that they were taking information that they
promised that they wouldn't take, that they weren't tracking us
if you opted out, and they shouldn't have done anyway,
shouldn't you should have to opt in. But given that
you could opt out, and if you chose to opt out,
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it still gathered your information. So it was a deceptive
trade practice. It was wrong, and I certainly I'm not
comfortable with these companies having my information without my permission
and then they use it for their advantages. They monetize it,
and they sell it, and they do it all without
your permission, and you don't benefit in any way. Actually,
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it's to your detriment. Some of this information is information
you may not want sold. It may hurt you in
the future when you're trying to purchase health insurance or
car instructs.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
A cumulative three point three four billion dollar opioid related settlement,
series of o opioid related settlements with major companies that
everyone knows who have preyed upon us, and I think
Fiser brought that to people's attention, but it's certainly not
the first. How did those come about?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Those? You know, we're probably I spent more time working
on opioids cases, both a manufacturer part of you. Spent
a lot of time in Cleveland, traveling the country, meeting
with ags and then trying to get an agreement among
fifty seven states and territories against the distributors, which were
are three major distributors. I actually led the sort of
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negotiation to get that done. And it's quite a challenge
when you're trying to get fifty seven states and territories
to agree to their allocation, because every state thinks they
deserve more, including Texas, and so I spent a couple
of several years negotiating those and working with the leadership
team three Democrats and there were three Republicans, and we
got those done. And hopefully that money is going. It's
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controlled out of controller and a committee. Hopefully that money
is going where I hope it would get, which is
to help deal with the opioid crisis. I've had too
many friends of ours lose their children, and it was
very personal to me to make sure that we got
money to help resolve and correct that situation so that
less of our children are dying.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I was a confirmed anti tort tort reform voter tort reform.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Proponent. I hated plaints attorneys. They were evil.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Lawsuit abuse was destroying our state MEDMU was destroying our
medical practices. Companies didn't want to open here, And as
often happens, the pendulum swung the wrong way, such that
I've had friends who have medical problems with the doctor's
caused and the payout is so little that lawyers won't
take them. I personally witnessed that that pendulum seems to
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swing back and forth. But the anti plaintiffs lawyer or
the tort reform crowd seems to have come after you,
and I don't think think that we have achieved a balance.
How important is that in this race?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I think it's really important. You know, It's unfortunate because
I was, like you, I've voted to restrict recoveries to
lower balance, trying to balance out the interests of healthcare
access and costs with the concept of being able to
recover if you've been harmed and being able to recover
what you deserve to recover. So there's always a balance there,
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and I've always struggled with it. But I think you're right.
We have been some of these instances, we have gone
too far.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Attorney General Ken Paxton, thank you for your town.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You know only smoke mister Biden.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
The Michael Arry Show, Well, you heard from Ken Paxton,
you heard from Wesley Hunt.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You know who John Cornyan is.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If you have a thought on that race, but only
if it has changed your opinion. If you're a Hunt
Cornyn or voter who just wants to say you're a
Hunt Corner or Paxton voter, that doesn't really tell us
anything new. We have polls that reflect that if your
opinion has changed in any way, shape or form as
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a result of something new, including those conversations you're welcome
to call us seven one three nine nine nine one
thousand seven one three nine nine nine one thousand. There's
a terrible case Baytown High School. When I first saw
the name of the victim, which is MEISMERM I S
E R, I thought, oh my goodness, that's not a
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very common name. We have a big fan of the
show who we've gotten over the year's named Donnie Meismer.
He's a pipeline superintendent. He works out on the pipeline,
sleeps in his truck, works all day long, has a
little camper, sorry, sleeps in a little camper next to
the pipelines, and drives the pipeline. He is the real
deal landman except going to Dallas and meeting with the
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boardroom and Andy Garcia and that whole lifestyle. He is
the guy that's actually out there on the pipeline. He'll
send me photos of pipe being lowered and raised, and
sand being put in and fluids and all these fascinating
things that they do to keep it all rolling. And
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it's fascinating business. And it turns out it's his cousin's son,
and it's just so senseless, you know, It's so senseless.
I've always thought of teenage suicide, which is more common
than you realize, having had teenagers, that you know about
it because you live in fear of it. When you
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hear these stories of some kid you knew, and the
thing that gets you is whatever has upset that kid
so much at fifteen or seventeen, If you can get
them through those few day they would look back on
that moment and laugh. Susie Smith broke up with me good.
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I can't believe I was that upset? How many times?
How many things do you remember when you were that
age that were the most important thing in the world
at the time you were raging over it. Had some
folks over the other night, and Ramone brought his two
sons and they were playing in our backyard and they're
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about twelve of us sitting around a fire, and we're
all smoking cigars and having drinks and talking and sharing stories,
and all of a sudden, his son July comes running
up his dad, my head and his head's bleeding, and
my head a rock fell, and it hit me and
Ramone with the discernment that only a father of two
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boys can have glances at his younger brother who's actually
bigger though, looks at his younger brother Oliver and as
what happened, and he said, well, I did you.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Throw the rock? Well, I just I did. So the
older brother was.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Protecting the younger brother. He was coming to dad for
help because his head was busted open, blood was gushing out,
and he was trying to protect his younger brother. He
was basically just saying, Hey, I think I need some
help because it's blood gushing out of my head.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And a rock.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You need to know a rock hit it, so you
have the you know, you tell the docs, you know,
like you kill the snake to bring it in, we
know what kind of venom we're working with. And the
younger brother hadn't thought through his story yet, and he
was at that point in a world of hurt, and
at that moment, he felt like a guy that you
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know that just got caught for murder. At that moment,
you are internalizing all of these emotions, and I just
think to myself, you know, you see a kid and
they're so set that they've gotten in trouble for this
or that, and at that moment, their little brain it's
not fully formed. It makes all the sense in the
world to take their life if you're a teenager. Andre
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Matthews charged with murdering Andrew Meismer after a fight in
science class at Sterling High School in Beytown, a dispute
over a twenty one dollar vape pen.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Twenty one dollar vape pen. He took a.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Pen and stabbed it hard enough into Andrew Meismer's throat.
Obviously he hit an.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Artery, and.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Then he held him in a choke hold, which of
course probably increased the pressure and the blood continued to gush.
He has been denied bail and as part of the
proposition three changes. But we also know prosecutors have released
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that the school disciplinary records show an escalating pattern of
troubling behavior, including a prior accident in which he incident
in which he allegedly brought a knife to school. And
it's another one of these cases where you see that
a kid is escalating. At each level, they're escalating, and
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if it's not dealt with, if it's not stopped, if.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
They don't learn.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Impulse control is very difficult for young men. Having been
a young man, impulse you know, as older men, you
sit around the fire and you brag about the fact
that some guy mouthed off to you, and you busted
his jaw. But hopefully there comes a point in your
life where you realize whatever that guy that Maltoff said,
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you busting his jaw is probably not going to teach
him the lesson you'd like to teach him, and it's
very likely going to cause a series of problems.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
And we had to coach football.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Coach at said he didn't like to pass the ball
because there are only three things that could happen, and
two of them were bad. Sorry, four things that can happened,
and three of them were bad. And it's kind of
the same deal. Either you get hurt, in which case
the slight he offended was a lot less than you
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get in a whip, because this guy's a better fighter
than you expected, or you hurt him, which is better
than him hurting you. But it might lead to some
serious problems, which comes to number three, which is the
legal problems that can result from it all. And that
is certainly different than it used to be many years ago.
When you know, us fifty five year old are sitting
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around the fire, a lot of people had a barroom
brawl or a high school fight or a fight somewhere
at some time, and you didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's not on your record.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Somewhere along the way, somebody decided in one over everybody
else that for everything that ever happens, we have to
prosecute it and put it on your record. The schools,
the bars, you name it. And I don't know that
that's necessarily true. There should be some room for some
discretion where you can say, all right, you guys have
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both blooded each other's nose at this bar.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You're both stupid, you're both drunk.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Call your wives, have them come pick you up, and
tomorrow send an email saying you're sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Let's move on. He's eating right now. He can't be
Michael Berry, Sir, please do not call him the fat picket.
See I'm trying to be nice. Don't call him a
fat picky. From the old Number one, The Great Guy Clark.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Talking about his years as a songwriter in la in
the early seventies, the Long Beach Freeway that he would
drive and the frustrations he had. You know, so much
great art comes from struggle. Many rivers to cross by
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Jimmy Cliff, the story of how he was going back
and forth from Jamaica to England and when he was
in one, he would think I should be in the other.
He was so big in the islands, such a star,
but he was a big fish in small pond. So
he would take the boat to England where he was
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the small fish in the big pond and couldn't quite
make it, but he knew he had to make it
there to really be what he wanted to be. Just
didn't want to be the big star in the little
on the little island.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And the.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Challenges and the struggles that you go through as an artist,
and I think that this one right here is what
I love about Guy Clark. What I love about that
style of writing is it's not intended to be high society.
It's not intended to be Shakespearean. It is very accessible.
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It is the hymming way of songwriting. It's very relatable
and accessible. It is the short, punchy sentence, very descriptive.
Himingway said his advice for writers, or write one true word,
write one true sentence. When you finished with that one
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true sentence, whatever that may be, a heavy set woman
walked into the room, then pause and write another. And
just write true sentences that are true to you. And
once you have strung together a few of them.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You have a book.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
It's an interesting style. But Guy Clark's writing style, it's
very different in that sense than some of the traditional
music of the day that was intended for a bubblegum
pop audience. And yeah, you had that even then. And
then of course nineteen seventy two Jerry Jeff Walker sings
it and makes it famous. I tell you he does
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a very good cover of that is Craigor Gregor does
a very very good cover of that song. A Houston
man sentenced for his role in a jugging robbery ring.
They call themselves the Hiram Clark Money Team. Days after
robbing an ATM technician in the Dallas area of more
than two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, a Houston jeweler
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posted a social media of a video of the suspect
with a stack of cash buying a diamond rolex, a
diamond necklace, and other jewelry. At the time of his arrest,
he was on probation in Collin County for aggravated robbery
and engaging in organized criminal activity.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Corey DeShawn Holloway, thirty.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
We having Deshaun's at my school, joinving Deshawn's was sentenced
to more than seven years in federal prison for his
role in the jugging robbery of an ATM technician in
the Dallas area. He admitted that during the early morning
hours of July third of last year, he traveled from
Houston to Dallas in a rental car with the intent
to commit robbery. He admitted that after arriving in the
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DFW area, he followed an ATM technician to multiple stops
as the technician repaired ATMs in Irving, Grand Prairie, Arlington,
and ultimately mid Lothian, Texas. At approximately five thirty five
PM on July third, Holloway approached the ATM technician as
he was servicing an ATM and a Chase Bank located
in mid Lothian. Mid Lothian, Holloway along with Johnny Juwan Clark.
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We didn't have any Jawan's at my high school. To
John and Roosevelt Ford Valentine. His mama had high hopes
for him. Named after two presidents. We're wearing hoodies. Wonder
why they wear hoodies? One of they wear hoodies. I
remember a particular case of Trayvon where they said that
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they weren't wearing hoodies for any I know. I think
people that wear hoodies don't all commit crimes, but a
certain demographic young black men who commit crimes all seemed
to wear hoodies. He approached the technician from behind and
forced him to the ground, kept his fist to the
back of the victim's head. As canisters containing US currency
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were removed from the atm by Holloway and Valentine. About
two hundred and sixty thousand dollars in US currency was
taken during the robbery. Court records revealed that after the robbery,
Holloway and two of his co defendants fled from the
Chase bank in the rental car and met co defendant
Tierra Tunisia Brandyburg. We have these Tunisies at us Yeah, Brandyburg,
at an apartment complex near the bank. The stolen money
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was loaded into a Range Rover. Oh okay, go on,
sister girl and driven back to Houston. Were not gonna
carry the stolen money in a rental car and we're
gonna put that in a nice card.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
We're gonna put that in a Range Rover.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Evidence present presented in court revealed it two days after
the robbery, a jewelry store in Houston posted a video
on social media of Holloway in the store and possession
of large quality quantities of cash and purchasing a diamond rolex,
a diamond necklace, and other as people inappropriately say, jewelry.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That always amuses me. Let's let's spell this word showy
j E W makes jw e L makes l r
y makes.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Re jew ull ree. But if you spell it j
U l e R, why you get jewelry? Which has
nothing to do with that, But that's how most people
say it. One of them got forty one months, one
of them got ninety six months. And then old boy,
how muchhould he get? Not enough that, I'll tell you
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what a dumb ass. Normally you steal the jewelry and
sell it for cash what you can use for most anything,
because you have no real use for jewelry.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
You're a hood rat. But these hood rats steal the
cash and go by jewelry. My goodness, just go to.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Horror when you jackass. Nobody's gonna believe you're wearing a
real rolex anyway. And by the way, where are you
wearing the rolex for the next jugging job? What were
well what can you tell we're gonna do a sketch
from the guy. What can you tell us about the guys? Well,
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it was a man.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
He's about eighteen, he's about six two. He was wearing
a black hoodie, gray shorts, and a Rolex and white
Nike shoes. And uh, he wore his socks up high,
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white Sox tube socks. Yeah, well, let's give all that,
but not his skin color.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Like, where is that guy.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Wearing a diamond Rolex to a house party? He wears
it into a house party. Another hood rat puts a
bullet and it takes his rolex.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
What a culture? What a culture?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And you wonder how Jasmine Crockett has a serious chance
at the US Senate.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Everybody gets representation.
It's that time time time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So Michael Arry Show is on the air.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So in general the Great State of Texas, Ken Paxton
is our guest, uh General Paxton. Earlier we had Congressman
Wesley Hunt on the show. And I will start with
the same type of questions to keep it relatively consistent.
Concerning middle names, you were born Warren Kenneth Paxton Junior.
And I'm curious why you didn't stick with Warren that.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, my dad, my father went by Warren, so I
didn't really choose that. It just happened with my parents.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Were you ever.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No, Oh, it was actually younger and my cousins still
call me it's Kenny and where I don't like these
words transitions, but I transitioned to Ken. But yeah, it
was from like, I don't remember ever being called Warren
unless my mother was mad at me Warren.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I will stick with the theme of the big story
of the day, the ice agent, the woman trying to
kill him in her in her vehicle in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Your thoughts, look, I think when when something like that happens,
these ice agents have to defend themselves, they have to
protect other people. I applaud them for doing that. What
she was doing was absolutely wrong and crazy, and the
consequences are there for her.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Our federal agents, our law enforcement generally have not received
the support of our politicians, our media, our cultural leaders.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And I think that is unfair. I think he's wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think it's bad for public safety. Your thoughts as
a future US senator?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, I think that spend true of many cities, even
I mean like in the city of Austin, where I
spend a lot of time, where my offices are. You know,
they defunded the police, took away a third of their funding,
made it much more difficult for them to go after crime.
And of course you have a DA there that doesn't
really prosecute crime anyway, pushed by George Soros. And then,
of course, you know, our ice agents were co opted
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for four years by the Biden administration and instead of
enforcing federal immigration laws, they were told not to and
they were told to help the cartels get illegals here
as quickly and expeditiously as possible. Completely unconstitutional, wrong, which
is why I had so many lawsuits against the Biden administration.
But it's unfortunate that the last seemingly does not support
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law enforcement and does not support the enforcement of our
laws and the protection of our people, and they encourage lawlessness.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You have been the most active Attorney General in my
lifetime at bringing cases against guys, and I think this
just broke.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Did I see this.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I don't have a date on it, but Attorney General
kN packs and Secure's major agreement with Crest toothpaste manufacturer
to protect children from executive fluoride exposure one of these
I just looked a few minutes ago and just.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Come out that was today was we just released that
right before the show. A matter of fact, I've not
talked to anybody about that. We already had one with
Colgate in September, and the research shows that over exposure
to florid, especially for young kids all the way up
to age six, is dangerous to their metal development. In
knowing that research, these companies continued to advertise the use
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of a large amount of toothpaste and therefore large amounts
of fluoride, And so we started investigations of those companies,
Colgate and Crest, and we got an agreement from Colgate
back in September, and now we've got an agreement from
Crest to stop advertising large uses or uses that are
too great for young kids so that they'll be safe. Obviously,
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you want to protect your teeth. At the same time,
you don't want to overuse something that can be harmful
to development view yeaes.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
The Trump administration, particularly Health Secretary Robert Kennedy, has been
very clear on that what started as a conspiracy there,
like most other things, has turned out to be based
in science and fact. December seventeenth, you said I secured
a court order stopping a CCP aligned smart TV company
from spying on Texans. The days of Chinese tech companies
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spying on America's televisions are over.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yes, so that was high sense. It's a Chinese television manufacturer.
There's another one, TCL that we sued. There's three other
from other places, I think, namely South Korea that we
sued to stop them because they record, like every five
hundred milliseconds, They record and take note of what you're watching,
and then they use it information without your consent or knowledge.
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They sell that information to whoever wants that information. What
we argue in the lawsuit is that they have an
obligation if they're going to record that information, they have
an obligation one to disclose that and to provide a
way out of it opt out. That is reasonable because
right now opting out is even if you knew, is
not an easy process. So that is our complaint, and
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we feel like it's unfair to Texas consumers to not
know that everything they're watching is being recorded and sent
somewhere else around the world, even potentially to the Chinese,
likely to the Chinese a headline.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Attorney General Ken Paxton detains fifty illegal aliens in raids
throughout the Houston area the Texas Office of the Attorney
General's Criminal Investigation Division. Attorney General Paxton became the first
Texas law enforcement entity during President Trump's second term to
sign a two eighty seven g agreement which enabled the
Office of the Attorney General to formally assess with and
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facilitate the master deportation of illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I think you led the charge on that issue.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes, we did. As matter of fact, when I was
in the Texas House, I was trying to pass the
legislation that allowed the state to do that in conjunction
with the Sedtle government, so that we could maximize enforcement
of our immigration laws because clearly there are never going
to be enough agents in federal or state. So by
adding our little two hundred and twenty five or so
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law enforcement agents, when they're out doing their jobs and
they find that somebody is here illegally, we can now
in conjunction with the federal government, turn them over and
have them deport it. So we're a force multiplier for
the Trump administration and enforcing immigration laws, which is exactly
the opposite of what the Biden administration was doing.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And a reminder for anyone who doesn't remember that John
Cornyn was once the attorney general of the state of
Texas and never did such things. In fact, when I
say that Paxton is the most active attorney general in
my lifetime, that includes Greg Abbott, that includes John Cornyn
before him, John Cornyn was not such an active attorney general.
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He was securing funds to run for the United States Senate,
not doing his job. You have upset the Republican establishment,
the Karl Robes. You defeated a Bush in a campaign
you ran for speaker when the other candidate had the
Democrats support.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You have offended.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
The TLR crowd. You have offended the establishment crowd. You've
offended the Bush crowd. And in so doing, I think
a lot of the base has recognized exactly what is
going on. It's going to be very interesting to see
how this plays out because Cornyn has that established money
and he has that establishment support, and you have always
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been the outsider that the only people that were for
you were voters in everyday Texans.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And this is going to be the.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
First pitched battle that we've seen with a challenger to
a rhino establishment sitting incumbent where the challenger and now too,
but where the challenger has name id and a track
record and some money. But it's going to be very fascinating.
Can you hold with us for just a moment?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The Attorney General State of Texas, Kim Paxson is our guest.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Quinnans Flop Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The Attorney General Kim Paxton is our guest.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
He is a candidate for the United States Senate along
with Wesley Hunt, the seat that is currently held by
John Cornyan, the incumbent for over twenty years, who was
running for reelection. I want to talk for a moment
about why the establishment went after you, and I've seen
it since you were back in the House and ran
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for Speaker against the Speaker candidate that was supported by
all the Democrats. I've seen it in the Senate then
you where you dared run again and star candidate. I've
seen it in the Attorney General's race where you dared
run against a Bush family member and Karl Rove got
very involved.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And now I'm seeing it in this Senate race.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I traced the same names, the same interest the same rhinos,
the same establishments, the same tactics through it all.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No, it's it's absolutely true. And we saw that even
in my impeachment. Carl Road was tied to that. TLR
was tied to that. They had people in my office
they were communicating with and worked with. They were tied
to the Biden administration. Even the Biden administration sent people,
you know, lawyers to help the Republicans to their impeachment.
So this was a it wasn't just the Republicans, also Democrats,
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and they were all aligned. Obviously had had different interests.
I was suiting the Biden administration, you know, two or
three times a month, and obviously the Carl Rove and
the Bushes had other plans for the first age race
against Tan Branch, who very close ally of col Road,
and George Bush. But also then of course they ran
George P. Bush against me. So it's kind of shocking
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to me because I spent a lot of my time
helping raise money and working for campaigns for the Bushes,
both the father and George w And it was shocking
to me to find such resistance and really the use
of the legal system to try to take me out
when they couldn't win at the ballot box.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Well drunk dates, not in the state House, not leaving
the state House anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
So I guess there is justice to all of this.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
One of the cases you brought, I'll look at the headline,
Paxton lawsuit against East Plano Islamic Center, EPIC and the
Meadow Project formerly Epic City. You have said that is
about violations of the law, not religious differences.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
What happened there.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, So we're still we sued them over security law
violations because we believe that they violated both state and
federal security laws. And so we're in the middle of
that lawsuit. It hasn't progressed past filing. We haven't really
had any significant hearing yet, but we are on course
to stop them from continuing to operate outside the law.
(11:16):
And as you said, we are a First Amendment country,
but we are not a Shuria law country. And there
is a distinction between defending First Amendment rights to free
speech and religious liberty and imposing or pushing another set
of laws outside of state and federal and constitutional laws.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You sued and won a settlement with Meta, which is Facebook,
for one point four billion dollars. They agreed to pay
the State of Texas the taxpayers for unlawfully capturing and
using biometric data facial recognition.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yes, it was a it's actually a lawsuit that I
brought to my office. I've seen it. I knew that
we had a pretty strong state law that prevented them
from stealing our faces without our consent and then also
retaining that information and selling that information. And clearly Meta
violated those laws. And so it was a complicated case.
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It took a lot of money because you have to
hire a lot of experts, and it's a complicated sort
of legal and financial structure. But we were able to
successfully after a couple of years, settle with them because
it was clear and they knew it that they had
violated our state laws. And so yeah, the taxpayers of
text its benefited, and the legislature now has another one
point four billion dollars that they could use to benefit
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the state of Texas.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You had a record setting settlement for Google's violations of
Texan's data privacy rights, including unauthorized collection of our location data,
even when we opted out, one of the biggest data
privacy enforcements. It was called one of the biggest data
privacy enforcements by any single state.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
One point three seven five billion in with Google. Does
that get their attention?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yes, it does. They didn't want to go to trial
for sure, because you know, we have more discovery and
there's no doubt that they were taking information that they
promised that they wouldn't take, that they weren't tracking us
if you opted out, and they shouldn't have done anyway,
shouldn't you should have to opt in. But given that
you could opt out, and if you chose to opt out,
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it still gathered your information. So it was a deceptive
trade practice. It was wrong, and I certainly I'm not
comfortable with these companies having my information without my permission
and then they use it for their advantages. They monetize it,
and they sell it, and they do it all without
your permission, and you don't benefit in any way. Actually,
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it's to your detriment. Some of this information is information
you may not want sold. It may hurt you in
the future when you're trying to purchase health insurance or
car instructs.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
A cumulative three point three four billion dollar opioid related settlement,
series of o opioid related settlements with major companies that
everyone knows who have preyed upon us, and I think
Fiser brought that to people's attention, but it's certainly not
the first. How did those come about?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Those? You know, we're probably I spent more time working
on opioids cases, both a manufacturer part of you. Spent
a lot of time in Cleveland, traveling the country, meeting
with ags and then trying to get an agreement among
fifty seven states and territories against the distributors, which were
are three major distributors. I actually led the sort of
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negotiation to get that done. And it's quite a challenge
when you're trying to get fifty seven states and territories
to agree to their allocation, because every state thinks they
deserve more, including Texas, and so I spent a couple
of several years negotiating those and working with the leadership
team three Democrats and there were three Republicans, and we
got those done. And hopefully that money is going. It's
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controlled out of controller and a committee. Hopefully that money
is going where I hope it would get, which is
to help deal with the opioid crisis. I've had too
many friends of ours lose their children, and it was
very personal to me to make sure that we got
money to help resolve and correct that situation so that
less of our children are dying.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I was a confirmed anti tort tort reform voter tort reform.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Proponent. I hated plaints attorneys. They were evil.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Lawsuit abuse was destroying our state MEDMU was destroying our
medical practices. Companies didn't want to open here, And as
often happens, the pendulum swung the wrong way, such that
I've had friends who have medical problems with the doctor's
caused and the payout is so little that lawyers won't
take them. I personally witnessed that that pendulum seems to
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swing back and forth. But the anti plaintiffs lawyer or
the tort reform crowd seems to have come after you,
and I don't think think that we have achieved a balance.
How important is that in this race?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I think it's really important. You know, It's unfortunate because
I was, like you, I've voted to restrict recoveries to
lower balance, trying to balance out the interests of healthcare
access and costs with the concept of being able to
recover if you've been harmed and being able to recover
what you deserve to recover. So there's always a balance there,
(16:27):
and I've always struggled with it. But I think you're right.
We have been some of these instances, we have gone
too far.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Attorney General Ken Paxton, thank you for your town.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You know only smoke mister Biden.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
The Michael Arry Show, Well, you heard from Ken Paxton,
you heard from Wesley Hunt.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You know who John Cornyan is.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
If you have a thought on that race, but only
if it has changed your opinion. If you're a Hunt
Cornyn or voter who just wants to say you're a
Hunt Corner or Paxton voter, that doesn't really tell us
anything new. We have polls that reflect that if your
opinion has changed in any way, shape or form as
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a result of something new, including those conversations you're welcome
to call us seven one three nine nine nine one
thousand seven one three nine nine nine one thousand. There's
a terrible case Baytown High School. When I first saw
the name of the victim, which is MEISMERM I S
E R, I thought, oh my goodness, that's not a
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very common name. We have a big fan of the
show who we've gotten over the year's named Donnie Meismer.
He's a pipeline superintendent. He works out on the pipeline,
sleeps in his truck, works all day long, has a
little camper, sorry, sleeps in a little camper next to
the pipelines, and drives the pipeline. He is the real
deal landman except going to Dallas and meeting with the
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boardroom and Andy Garcia and that whole lifestyle. He is
the guy that's actually out there on the pipeline. He'll
send me photos of pipe being lowered and raised, and
sand being put in and fluids and all these fascinating
things that they do to keep it all rolling. And
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it's fascinating business. And it turns out it's his cousin's son,
and it's just so senseless, you know, It's so senseless.
I've always thought of teenage suicide, which is more common
than you realize, having had teenagers, that you know about
it because you live in fear of it. When you
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hear these stories of some kid you knew, and the
thing that gets you is whatever has upset that kid
so much at fifteen or seventeen, If you can get
them through those few day they would look back on
that moment and laugh. Susie Smith broke up with me good.
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I can't believe I was that upset? How many times?
How many things do you remember when you were that
age that were the most important thing in the world
at the time you were raging over it. Had some
folks over the other night, and Ramone brought his two
sons and they were playing in our backyard and they're
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about twelve of us sitting around a fire, and we're
all smoking cigars and having drinks and talking and sharing stories,
and all of a sudden, his son July comes running
up his dad, my head and his head's bleeding, and
my head a rock fell, and it hit me and
Ramone with the discernment that only a father of two
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boys can have glances at his younger brother who's actually
bigger though, looks at his younger brother Oliver and as
what happened, and he said, well, I did you.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Throw the rock? Well, I just I did. So the
older brother was.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Protecting the younger brother. He was coming to dad for
help because his head was busted open, blood was gushing out,
and he was trying to protect his younger brother. He
was basically just saying, Hey, I think I need some
help because it's blood gushing out of my head.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And a rock.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You need to know a rock hit it, so you
have the you know, you tell the docs, you know,
like you kill the snake to bring it in, we
know what kind of venom we're working with. And the
younger brother hadn't thought through his story yet, and he
was at that point in a world of hurt, and
at that moment, he felt like a guy that you
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know that just got caught for murder. At that moment,
you are internalizing all of these emotions, and I just
think to myself, you know, you see a kid and
they're so set that they've gotten in trouble for this
or that, and at that moment, their little brain it's
not fully formed. It makes all the sense in the
world to take their life if you're a teenager. Andre
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Matthews charged with murdering Andrew Meismer after a fight in
science class at Sterling High School in Beytown, a dispute
over a twenty one dollar vape pen.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Twenty one dollar vape pen. He took a.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Pen and stabbed it hard enough into Andrew Meismer's throat.
Obviously he hit an.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Artery, and.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Then he held him in a choke hold, which of
course probably increased the pressure and the blood continued to gush.
He has been denied bail and as part of the
proposition three changes. But we also know prosecutors have released
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that the school disciplinary records show an escalating pattern of
troubling behavior, including a prior accident in which he incident
in which he allegedly brought a knife to school. And
it's another one of these cases where you see that
a kid is escalating. At each level, they're escalating, and
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if it's not dealt with, if it's not stopped, if.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
They don't learn.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Impulse control is very difficult for young men. Having been
a young man, impulse you know, as older men, you
sit around the fire and you brag about the fact
that some guy mouthed off to you, and you busted
his jaw. But hopefully there comes a point in your
life where you realize whatever that guy that Maltoff said,
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you busting his jaw is probably not going to teach
him the lesson you'd like to teach him, and it's
very likely going to cause a series of problems.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
And we had to coach football.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Coach at said he didn't like to pass the ball
because there are only three things that could happen, and
two of them were bad. Sorry, four things that can happened,
and three of them were bad. And it's kind of
the same deal. Either you get hurt, in which case
the slight he offended was a lot less than you
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get in a whip, because this guy's a better fighter
than you expected, or you hurt him, which is better
than him hurting you. But it might lead to some
serious problems, which comes to number three, which is the
legal problems that can result from it all. And that
is certainly different than it used to be many years ago.
When you know, us fifty five year old are sitting
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around the fire, a lot of people had a barroom
brawl or a high school fight or a fight somewhere
at some time, and you didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's not on your record.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Somewhere along the way, somebody decided in one over everybody
else that for everything that ever happens, we have to
prosecute it and put it on your record. The schools,
the bars, you name it. And I don't know that
that's necessarily true. There should be some room for some
discretion where you can say, all right, you guys have
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both blooded each other's nose at this bar.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You're both stupid, you're both drunk.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Call your wives, have them come pick you up, and
tomorrow send an email saying you're sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Let's move on. He's eating right now. He can't be
Michael Berry, Sir, please do not call him the fat picket.
See I'm trying to be nice. Don't call him a
fat picky. From the old Number one, The Great Guy Clark.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Talking about his years as a songwriter in la in
the early seventies, the Long Beach Freeway that he would
drive and the frustrations he had. You know, so much
great art comes from struggle. Many rivers to cross by
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Jimmy Cliff, the story of how he was going back
and forth from Jamaica to England and when he was
in one, he would think I should be in the other.
He was so big in the islands, such a star,
but he was a big fish in small pond. So
he would take the boat to England where he was
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the small fish in the big pond and couldn't quite
make it, but he knew he had to make it
there to really be what he wanted to be. Just
didn't want to be the big star in the little
on the little island.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And the.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Challenges and the struggles that you go through as an artist,
and I think that this one right here is what
I love about Guy Clark. What I love about that
style of writing is it's not intended to be high society.
It's not intended to be Shakespearean. It is very accessible.
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It is the hymming way of songwriting. It's very relatable
and accessible. It is the short, punchy sentence, very descriptive.
Himingway said his advice for writers, or write one true word,
write one true sentence. When you finished with that one
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true sentence, whatever that may be, a heavy set woman
walked into the room, then pause and write another. And
just write true sentences that are true to you. And
once you have strung together a few of them.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
You have a book.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
It's an interesting style. But Guy Clark's writing style, it's
very different in that sense than some of the traditional
music of the day that was intended for a bubblegum
pop audience. And yeah, you had that even then. And
then of course nineteen seventy two Jerry Jeff Walker sings
it and makes it famous. I tell you he does
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a very good cover of that is Craigor Gregor does
a very very good cover of that song. A Houston
man sentenced for his role in a jugging robbery ring.
They call themselves the Hiram Clark Money Team. Days after
robbing an ATM technician in the Dallas area of more
than two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, a Houston jeweler
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posted a social media of a video of the suspect
with a stack of cash buying a diamond rolex, a
diamond necklace, and other jewelry. At the time of his arrest,
he was on probation in Collin County for aggravated robbery
and engaging in organized criminal activity.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Corey DeShawn Holloway, thirty.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
We having Deshaun's at my school, joinving Deshawn's was sentenced
to more than seven years in federal prison for his
role in the jugging robbery of an ATM technician in
the Dallas area. He admitted that during the early morning
hours of July third of last year, he traveled from
Houston to Dallas in a rental car with the intent
to commit robbery. He admitted that after arriving in the
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DFW area, he followed an ATM technician to multiple stops
as the technician repaired ATMs in Irving, Grand Prairie, Arlington,
and ultimately mid Lothian, Texas. At approximately five thirty five
PM on July third, Holloway approached the ATM technician as
he was servicing an ATM and a Chase Bank located
in mid Lothian. Mid Lothian, Holloway along with Johnny Juwan Clark.
(28:45):
We didn't have any Jawan's at my high school. To
John and Roosevelt Ford Valentine. His mama had high hopes
for him. Named after two presidents. We're wearing hoodies. Wonder
why they wear hoodies? One of they wear hoodies. I
remember a particular case of Trayvon where they said that
(29:07):
they weren't wearing hoodies for any I know. I think
people that wear hoodies don't all commit crimes, but a
certain demographic young black men who commit crimes all seemed
to wear hoodies. He approached the technician from behind and
forced him to the ground, kept his fist to the
back of the victim's head. As canisters containing US currency
(29:29):
were removed from the atm by Holloway and Valentine. About
two hundred and sixty thousand dollars in US currency was
taken during the robbery. Court records revealed that after the robbery,
Holloway and two of his co defendants fled from the
Chase bank in the rental car and met co defendant
Tierra Tunisia Brandyburg. We have these Tunisies at us Yeah, Brandyburg,
at an apartment complex near the bank. The stolen money
(29:52):
was loaded into a Range Rover. Oh okay, go on,
sister girl and driven back to Houston. Were not gonna
carry the stolen money in a rental car and we're
gonna put that in a nice card.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
We're gonna put that in a Range Rover.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Evidence present presented in court revealed it two days after
the robbery, a jewelry store in Houston posted a video
on social media of Holloway in the store and possession
of large quality quantities of cash and purchasing a diamond rolex,
a diamond necklace, and other as people inappropriately say, jewelry.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That always amuses me. Let's let's spell this word showy
j E W makes jw e L makes l r
y makes.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Re jew ull ree. But if you spell it j
U l e R, why you get jewelry? Which has
nothing to do with that, But that's how most people
say it. One of them got forty one months, one
of them got ninety six months. And then old boy,
how muchhould he get? Not enough that, I'll tell you
(30:54):
what a dumb ass. Normally you steal the jewelry and
sell it for cash what you can use for most anything,
because you have no real use for jewelry.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
You're a hood rat. But these hood rats steal the
cash and go by jewelry. My goodness, just go to.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Horror when you jackass. Nobody's gonna believe you're wearing a
real rolex anyway. And by the way, where are you
wearing the rolex for the next jugging job? What were
well what can you tell we're gonna do a sketch
from the guy. What can you tell us about the guys? Well,
(31:35):
it was a man.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
He's about eighteen, he's about six two. He was wearing
a black hoodie, gray shorts, and a Rolex and white
Nike shoes. And uh, he wore his socks up high,
(31:58):
white Sox tube socks. Yeah, well, let's give all that,
but not his skin color.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Like, where is that guy.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Wearing a diamond Rolex to a house party? He wears
it into a house party. Another hood rat puts a
bullet and it takes his rolex.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
What a culture? What a culture?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And you wonder how Jasmine Crockett has a serious chance
at the US Senate.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Everybody gets representation.
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