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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Verie Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I mean when I will now read to you how
much protein there is in average foods that you eat
per one hundred grams.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
It will start with bananas one point one. These will
be increasing, avocados two grams, potatoes two point five, rice
two point seven. That's higher protein than I would have
expected for rice. By the way, I've been wearing. A
continuous glucose monitor does as well. And the thing that

(01:03):
most surprised me, I have very good blood sugar. I
didn't know what my blood sugar would be sort of
all the time, and then when I eat, and my
blood sugar stays pretty low because I fast. So if
you're not putting anything in your body, your blood shair
continues to drop so much so that it's caused me
a problem. I'm in between meters. I have to switch

(01:24):
because this one, when you go below seventy, starts screaming
at you because it thinks you're going to die. And
because healthy people typically don't buy a continuous glucose monitor,
although I think that's changing. I think a lot of
people want to know what they're what different things.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Do to their body.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
But the thing that shocked me and my wife for
her body was how much my glascemic number shot up
with rice. It turns out much more so than with
typical what you would consider what you would assume would
be items that would cause your blood sugar to increase.
Rice two point seven, broccoli two point eight, very high

(02:05):
in protein, spinach two point nine, green peas five point three,
milk six point six, wheat bread eight point eight. That
one chokray lentols nine. You would have expected that, salmon
nine point seven. Greek yogurt ten. Greek yogurt is one

(02:27):
of those things. Ramon, you start reading about there are
a lot of good properties to Greek yogurt. Soybeans thirteen,
eggs thirteen you knew they were high in that. Walnuts fifteen.
Now this is per one hundred grams. So in order
to get more protein out of your wal walnuts than

(02:48):
your eggs, you're gonna have to eat.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
A lot of walnuts.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
But you know, pound for pound it's more protein. Cashew's
fifteen point three chicken thigh sixteen point three, shrimp sixteen
point seven. That one surprised me. Oats sixteen point eight.
You know you think of eating eggs as high in protein.
We're now above eggs in protein and beginning to be

(03:14):
significantly so in items that I would have never imagined.
This was the one that shocked me tofu seventeen grams,
poke chops seventeen point five grams, sunflower seeds twenty one grams.
Did not see that coming. Pistachio nuts twenty one point three.
But nobody actually eats sunflower seeds. You just chew on
them and spit, right, that's what you're supposed to do.

(03:37):
Almonds twenty two grams, black beans twenty two grams, cannellini
beans twenty two gram Nobody eats said twunut twenty three grams,
mung beans or moon beans twenty four mutton twenty five grams,
peanut butter twenty five grams, peanut twenty six beef thirty

(04:02):
one grams, and pumpkin seeds thirty two grams of protein
for every one hundred grams you eat. Pumpkin seeds was
the highest on the entire list. I would have never
imagined that I would just you could not have convinced

(04:23):
me that that was the case. KPRC TV's Amy Davis'
latest investigation says Houston has the worst power outages in
the nation.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Surprise.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
The story from KPRC to me, from the hum of
an air conditioner Incline to a country road in Chambers
County and way out west to Tyler Steers Home.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
In Fort Bend.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It seems like there's a problem that everybody knows about
that nobody can explain.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Why all of these communities have something in common.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Something's got to give on the power.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Power outages in all up to eighteen times more often
than the rest of the country, and nearly seven times
the outages than the rest of the Greater Houston area.
It goes to off, and it comes on and go tovn,
it comes down.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Every time it happens, we hear the air compressor hum
and we're worried about, you know, what that could be doing.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
To the house alone.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Each of these customers complaints would seem isolated. But we
put the August outage data for Houston into an interactive map,
and what we see is that they each live in
outage hotspots. See the areas in red. These are zones
that average more than four outages in just one month.
More than seven outages for people in seven seven four

(05:36):
zero six and the Pecan Grove and Harvest Green subdivisions
of Fort ben County. Seven in seven seven zero one
four near Walters and Spears Road in North Harris County.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
Something that should be done about it.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
More than six outages in seven seven zero three two
near JFK and Alden Bender and seven seven five two
three in Chambers County. The areas with the most outages
are spread out all over the Houston area, and in August,
the outages we saw were mostly momentary, lasting minutes, sometimes
just seconds long.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Cameras they go off, TV goes off.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
But even if the outages are only one second each,
energy experts say that's not normal.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Even short power outages are disruptive.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Bob Marshall is the CEO of Whisker Labs, the company
that provided the data for this story. The company sells
and installs small plugin teing sensors and homes and businesses
across the country. They allow the company to see real
time data on power outages in just about every city
in the nation.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
And what we see is that the frequency of power
outages in Houston is just regularly higher than what we
see across the country.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Whisker Labs is only tracking the outage doesn't know why
they're so much higher here. For that, we took the
data to Center Point.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
They telling you, guys, anything not yet I didn't think, so.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
We asked for an on camera interview. Centerpoint send an email.
It reads, comparing Houston to cities like Boston, in Seattle
or those in desert climates like Phoenix. Is often in
apples to oranges comparison, citing Gulf Coast weather patterns and
vegetation density as unique to our area. When we asked
why the five areas specifically had so many outages, a

(07:15):
representative wrote, outages can happen for many reasons.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
The systems are sophisticated enough today that they know exactly
what the problem is, and so I really reject those
answers to say, maybe it's this. Maybe it's that we
need to be able to pinpoint where the outages are
and we can do that and then find out why.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Texas Senator Lewis Cole Courst serves on the Business and
Commerce Committee in Austin. She represents the Fort Bend area
that had the highest number of outages in August.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
There's something major wrong in that area, and I, for one,
as their lawmaker, are going to be looking into this
and demanding answers.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I wouldn't hold my breath. We shouldn't need a crisis
in order to have effective systems and government and companies
and delivery of services. But that's what happens, isn't it.
New Orleans had a flooding problem waiting to happen with

(08:16):
the bowl that it was and the broken levee long
before Katrina. Katrina just exposed how bad it had been
and for how long. This is the same story.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is a long term problem. It was allowed to fester.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
Data and night taking knee home.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
You say you want to stay, I say I want.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
It always surprises people when they find out who wrote
this song. I know, you know that's right, the Boss
who Springsteen. He wrote it and recorded it in seventy seven,
but the big hit was the following year for the
Pointer Sisters. I'll admit it. I like the music of

(09:19):
that era. I like disco. I never didn't like disco.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I know that you're not supposed to like disco, and
disco's gay. It is gay.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Disco's gay and black and club music. It's all of
those three things wound into one. It's also very appealing
to me, and I don't know that I chose that consciously.
When disco really got big seventy six, seventy seven, but
really seventy eight seventy nine, I was eight or nine

(09:51):
years old. I was just really beginning to appreciate music,
and I loved my classic country. But I also heard
on the radio what were then the top forty hits
were disco songs, and I thought it was It was
very catchy, very smooth, and for whatever reason, it was

(10:13):
pleasant to my ear. I listened to more music today
that is pre ninety than I do post, definitely post
twenty ten. By far, I listened to what I like.
People get upset at me because they'll said, hey, you

(10:34):
heard his new song I'm Morgan Wallen. No thanks, no, no,
you got to hear this, and I don't. Actually I don't.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
That's just it. I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't have to listen to new songs. I don't
want to listen to new songs. I'm hard headed and
I'm going to I'm going to continue to be hard
headed because I'm going to listen to what I enjoy.
How about that, Cliff, can you hear me this time?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I can't. Where were you? Where did you go? What happened?
Are you all right? Well?

Speaker 6 (11:05):
No, I'm fine. I'm driving and I got a headset
and for some reason then it went on mute or
something like that.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
So sorry, all.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Right, what's your drunk story, Cliff?

Speaker 6 (11:17):
I haven't got a drunk story for you. Forty years ago,
I was young and bought me a new full wheel
drive truck. At one point during that first week, I
went out with my buddy and we all drank a
little bit. Now we wasn't doing but we had been drinking.
Now when I left, I was headed home out in
the country and i'm and it was raining, and I

(11:38):
see this car over in the ditch and these three
guys trying to push it out. Another guy down on
the opposite side of the car with a flash light.
So me, being me having a full little drive, I
pull up next to you and say, hey, y'all want
me to pull? Yeah, you need to help. By that time,
the guy with the flash light come around the car

(11:58):
and he's got one of them two foot long maglight
and he puts it up on his shoulder. The shine
of at me just like any police officer would do
anyways that he says, no, we're fine, you go on ahead.
Well then that's when I realized they weren't pushing that
car out. They were getting arrested. So I left real quick.

(12:20):
Instead of going on, I went to my parents' house.
I parked in the barn and slept there all night
because I was scared to go home. Forged it come
get me.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
All right.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Cliff described that story to Ramon as the funniest story.
You won't believe it. I think he's got arch Manning's
PR team behind him.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Joel, you're up, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, I just wanted to comment about your power company story.
I guess it was mainly about Center Point, but there's
a lot of reasons that we have adages. After I
retired from the City of Texas City, I went to
work for our local power company, which was Texas New
Mexico down in Galveston County, and they also had a

(13:08):
big footprint in Brazoria County and that's office I worked
out of in Angleton. But I have pictures of me
back in the sixties when I was a kid there
where you can't find a tree in the background. You
absolutely can. You know, look and there's no trees anywhere.

(13:32):
And now I look around Galveston, Fort Ben Bssoria County,
and it's just we're just covered with trees. And you know,
I don't think the infrastructure was ever or hasn't been
able to keep up with, you know, the growth of
the cities and everything else. Now a good bit of

(13:55):
that is is their own damn fault. But you know,
the power poles that they set back in the you know,
sixties and seventies, they're not near tall enough and people
planted trees everywhere all around them. I live in an
area nown in Fort Ben County that in about three

(14:19):
and a half square miles there's thirty two houses, and
all up and down the roads in there, there's trees
right along the power lines. And I belong to the
Centerpoint Text Alerts that whenever I get an outage, you know,
I get a text alert from them, and sometimes they'll call.

(14:42):
But you know, invariably, if there's a outage, it was
because of a tree branch that went across the power line.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I agree with you on that. I also agree there
is a duty on the individual homeowner to keep trees
trimmed back. Homeowners don't believe that they have that duty.
I've had this conversation one hundred times. They believe it

(15:16):
is the duty of the power company to come and
trim the trees on the homeowner's property that extend above
the power line. When the tree came later to the game,
and that is just an attempt to transfer wealth from
the company to the individual. In this case, transferred duty

(15:39):
from the individual to the company, and then there is
frustration when the tree falls or when a limb falls
and the power is out. There's no doubt of that.
In fact, I've seen corridors where you drive along and
say how long until the power is out in that area.
I think that, much like illegal immigrat, this is a

(16:00):
multifaceted problem with many many sources at its root. I
also think that Centerpoint made incredible wealth over a long
period of time, and I'm not opposed to them making
a profit even with governmental protection, but they did not
reinvest in infrastructure, and I do think that is why
there's a lot of deferred maintenance on all this trimming.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Create around for a man life. This is a fellow
named Dave Finley on.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
My Way kind of a singer songwriter might be a mechanic.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
He might work in dispatch for.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
A eighteen wheeler company. Just kind of a big, fat
white dude. We're in a ball cap all the time
with a skill, and the skill is singing. I love
covers outside the original.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Genre.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Do you see that Joe Rogan had Lionel Ritchie on recently? Yeah,
something Michael Jackson. You know it would not be enough
to fulfill me, but a certain part of me is
jealous of the Tucker Carlson. Joe Rogan, you know, do
one interview.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Per day.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
And then call it today and you've got a hype
machine behind you that that's you know, pushing it out
all day, so you only prep for that interview. And
I think there's a huge market for it. There's there's
nobody doing it quite as I mean, there's nobody in
the realm of what Rogan's doing in terms of numbers.
And he certainly doesn't mail it in. I mean that

(17:41):
guy will.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Sit there and talk. You can tell at the end
of the interviews people are like, can I please be done?
I'm wore out.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Because you know you're on your best behavior, right, you know,
the whole world is Washington's got a big audience and
Tuckers are tighter interviews. By the way, this week, I
don't get to watch anything else. I watch reviews of
things and clips of things, but a number of folks
sent it to me. Steve Toath was on Tucker this
week talking about his race with Dan Crenshaw, and Tucker

(18:11):
shares my view of Dan Crenshaw that he got to Washington,
d C. And sold us out, and that he's a
very very dark figure, very dark figure more than just
he's not voting the right way. And Tucker feels, as
I do, that he needs to be defeated. He is, well,

(18:34):
I'll leave it there. So he had an in depth
interview with Steve Toath, and I think Toad did.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Very very well.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I would encourage you to watch that. John Bank, who
was the third candidate in that race, who I don't know,
but I know his father in law, Willie Langston. We
used to be in Sunday School together at Second Baptist
twenty five years ago. His father in law was one
of the Houstonians who was very big behind Ted Cruz early.

(19:05):
WILLI was extremely involved in that twenty twelve election. I
was involved on the promotion and messaging side. WILLI was
involved on the money side.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
And for those.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Of you who remember a powerhouse, small but powerhouse firm
in the area called Avalon Advisors, Willie was one of
the guys there. Every one of the small group there
was an all star in their own right, and Willie
certainly one of them. He was also a big force
behind Second Baptist. Anyway, he had reached out and asked

(19:40):
if I would support his son in law in the
race against Dan Crinshaw. And the guy's name is John
bunk Bo nc K. He'd never run for office before,
and I don't know how old is I would guess
he's probably forty years old, young family. I think he's
some sort of professional, maybe nance, maybe private equity.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I don't know. But I had told him at the.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Time, I'm not going to invest emotionally in that race
for now because it's early, and I think Toath has
the lion's share of Challenger Upstart support because he's represented
that area. He's been very consistent. He's a constitutional conservative,

(20:24):
he's a Tea party guy. He's a guy that has
been there for the base and been right on the
issues and worked very hard he's not pretentious, he's not
somebody trying to lord over other people. He's the opposite
of Dan Crenshaw, and in that district, I think he's
going to win. So it has been my position on

(20:44):
most of these races, unless it's a very high profile race,
not to bring candidates on this early. And this is
a great example why John Bonk has now moved from
the second congressional district race, which is challenging Dan Crenshaw,
over to the thirty eighth Congressional district race, which is

(21:06):
the seat that Wesley Hunt will be abandoning. And again
because number of questions, Wesley Hunt doesn't have to leave
his congressional seat because he's running for office. He doesn't
have to leave his congressional seat. He just won't be
on the ballot for reelection in March. That's how that works.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
A number of other people have.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Asked, you know, is there more at play in Wesley
Hunt's entrance into the race, And the answer is I
don't know, but I don't think so. And the logic
of the argument, this is what I've heard from a
lot of folks who either know him or are involved
in the process and don't know him, and they're trying

(21:49):
to look for the angle. There's a big thing among
people who are kind of the political chattering class. These
are people who who know politicians, maybe even have them,
have a texting relationship, and like to think they know
more than they do because they had lunch with somebody,

(22:09):
or they were an event where that person was, and
so they like to offer political analysis. And their political
analysis consists of pulling together the gossip they hear from
everybody they hear it from and kind of bundling that
up and or number two, looking for every angle possible,

(22:31):
giving voice to it and trying to seem smart. But
usually there's no there there there's no fire with smoke.
But what I'm hearing a lot of and I will
repeat this as a thing I am hearing a lot
of some of you are dunderheads. And don't understand that
I am not saying I believe this to be the case.

(22:52):
I'm telling you what I am hearing people say. That
doesn't mean it's true. That means they're saying it for
whatever reason. Some people are paid to spread rumors. Some
people are just making stuff up. Some people are telling
the truth. When I put it out there, it is
to give you another data point to consider. It does
not mean that I am endorsing it. So don't email me.

(23:12):
I know that you think this. No, if I thought that,
i'd say that. Have I ever held back? I've been
talking about blacks for the last two hours. Do I
seem like I'm afraid to say my opinion to you?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Anyway?

Speaker 7 (23:24):
Ramona?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
So as I was saying, So, the argument goes that
Trump is going to endorse Wesley Hunt and Corning's going
to step out, and that Wesley Hunt wouldn't have gotten
into the race unless that was the case, because Wesley's
not an idiot. He wouldn't get into the race unless

(23:48):
Corny steps down and he gets Trump's endorsement. He's too
smart to do that. He loses his congressional seat that
he just got, that was created for him. There's no
way he gives up his congressional seat if he's not
practically guaranteed the Senate seat. Well, I will address that.

(24:13):
Hang tight, what are you doing? Aren't we up on
a break?

Speaker 7 (24:19):
Well?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
What are you doing? Oh? You have a You're determining
will go to break? You have that authority since when
I don't even know how you do it. It's hard timed.
How do you do you have to override the system
to screw it up? That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
That dude just should stick to just writing songs and
I'll try to sing, all right. So here is the
question that I'm getting a lot of, and I would
do my best to address it. So the theory goes

(25:03):
like this. Wesley Hunt just got elected three years ago.
He ran five years ago, barely lost to Lizzie Fletcher.
Hell of a good race, came out of nowhere, had
a lot of support. Here is a young veteran, beautiful family,

(25:23):
young kids, smart guy, Houston kid, whence Saint John's played football,
had all sorts of records as a running back. There
by all accounts, good football player, good looking guy, presents
himself well, happens to be black, happens to be Republican.

(25:45):
That should not be the lead point, but it cannot
be overlooked because a number of people are excited. Should
they be, should they not be, That's up to them
and your judgment. But if I'm telling you what things are,
that's not a judgment on what things are. It is

(26:06):
what I see, and I see a lot of big
money guys, a lot of the big money donor class
like the idea of a black Republican male because it
is very rare and you cannot deny that money is
going to flow in a situation like that.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I've had a number of friends who say, yeah, but
you wait till they get to East Texas, where you're from.
They're not going to like a black guy, and certainly
not a black guy and a white woman. I don't
believe that's going to matter to people. I really don't.
I don't think that's going to be the primary decision making.

(26:52):
I think people say that because they have a seed
in their own heart and they love to say that
my people are all racists, but you know they're so good,
to which I reply, I think he got over seventy
percent of the vote in North Houston suburban community. Why

(27:12):
aren't those people bothered that he was black?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
They weren't.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
For every guy that's bothered that he doesn't want a
black Republican and I don't believe that happens. I really don't,
But let's assume it does for everyone that that's true.
There's a black Republican who votes for him because he's
also black, or there's a white Republican who votes for
him because they liked the idea of voting for black
I don't think that changes the dynamics of a race

(27:38):
or against. I don't think that's going to be the
factor that's going to matter. And I don't appreciate that
people say it is interestingly those have been people who
are for Wesley Hunt. Not that Wesley has or would
ever say that, but these are people who a lot
of people if you don't like their candidate, they like

(28:00):
to now bring up kind of Democrat issues. I had
friends who were for Kamala, went on friends acquaintances who
were from Kamala and they told me that I didn't
like the fact. They didn't say that I didn't like
because she was because she was black. They said, I
don't like because she was a woman. No, I don't
like her because she's an idiot. She just happens to
be a woman. So here is the question I get,

(28:22):
and I'll do my best to answer as I believe
it to be. People say Trump has to be endorsing
Wesley Hunt. I don't believe he will endorse in this race.
I don't he likes Paxton, he likes Hunt. I don't
believe he'll endorse. Now, if he does endorse, I'll say
I didn't think he would endorse. Certainly. I don't think

(28:43):
he'll endorse early because of the alienation of Corn and
the problems that causes him with the Senate. But let's
say he stays out of the race all the way
or till the very end. The question becomes, does Wesley
have Corn's endorsement? I don't believe he does. A lot

(29:06):
of people believe that he wouldn't have entered without it.
He has not told me. He knows that Paxton and
I go back, and both Paxton and Hunt Wesley have
kind of given me the respect of I'm not going
to ask you to take a side, and that's where
we've sort of left it. And they probably both because
politicians are paranoid, I was to They probably both think

(29:29):
that I'm supporting the other one, and I'd rather just
keep it that way so that I can comment on
the race without having a dog in the hunt. But
I do want to beat Cornying, that's for sure. So
with that in mind, the question I keep getting is
just Trump endorse Wesley. I don't think he does, but
we'll see that something may change that he does, but
I don't believe. So the second question is why would

(29:52):
you run for a Senate seat when you have a
safe house seat. This is going to come off as
a criticism of Wesley, and that is not the intention.
This is a reality that you have to understand. Remember,
when you're on a jury for a serial killer, you
can't say, well, I wouldn't have done that, so I

(30:14):
don't think he did it. Everybody's motivation is different Trump's motivation.
When you say to yourself, if I was Trump, I'd
take my money and go lay on the beach, You're
not Trump. He's different from you, and you have to respect.
You have to acknowledge that people are different and are
driven by different things. I think some people, I know

(30:35):
some people get to Congress and you know, you start
with the idea, I'm going to DC and be part
of the capitol. I'm going to change the laws. We're
going to change the country. You get there and even
though your party is in the majority, which his is,
you are one out of four hundred thirty five, and
you're in the bad the bottom thirty five of the

(30:57):
four hundred and thirty five.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
It is all seniority.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
So now it's really just like you have an interesting resume,
which is like having a good PR agent. So you
can go on Bill Maher, you can go on to
radio interviews and you do that.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
You do that all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Congressman fill in the blank is our guest, and you
can get on radio shows, you can get on TV shows,
you know, if you're good enough. And he's got a
great story. He's got a great military story. He is
a black Republican, so he's high energy. So that happens.
But at some point, pretty early on, it happens that
you get there and realize, wait a second, I'm flying

(31:36):
back and forth from where I live, where my family is.
I got to be back. They want me in the
district constantly. A lot of the time i'm up here.
It's just BS work. It's just constant BS. And the
only thing you actually do that's any power is you
go cast a vote.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
You can't be.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Wrong on that vote. You got to be where Trump
is or the people back home are gonna hate you.
So you're not even really using your brain. You're just
showing up at a lot of events. So why do
you give up a congressional seat to run for the
Senate because the Senate's where the powers at. It's where
all the power's at. Unless you're the Speaker of the House,
there's no power to be in a congressman. So, as

(32:12):
I have said, if you run and.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Lose, you still win.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
For most people. If you run and win, you win.
We know that if you run and lose, most people
like why would you run and lose, then you will.
You won't have your congressional seat because a lot of
people with high ambitions get there and realize I'm not
a swamp creature. I can't hang around here long enough
to rise up in the ranks. Morgan Latrell is stepping down.
He would have been reelected for as long as he
wanted to serve. I've seen this happen a lot, where

(32:38):
a guy gets there. The only reason Crenshaw stays there
is it looks like he's run a financial firm or something.
He's inside, or he's doing some trading or whatever. So
that is the answer to that. There is no glory
to being a congressman. Very few people want to go
there and stay there.
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