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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So as you might imagine, we are sending show ideas, jokes, articles,
we've read video audio of things that we see Trump's comment,
some random listener saying something.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We need to chase this to ground.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Is there truth to this or not because they claim this,
And oftentimes that's how you find things out. That person
turns out has some inside information, or has a brother
in law, it has some inside information. And that is
our collaborative process that keeps the show running. That's how
we create content. And the challenge is to go from
(01:05):
those conversations late at night, early in the morning while
one person's driving another person is, you know, doing something else.
Someone else said their kids baseball game. And we're sending
these ideas around and the challenge is to get those
ideas corralled wrangled on the show during the morning and
evening in a format that I can share with you.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And one of the themes that comes.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Up is this idea of if you're a normal person
and you're watching what's going on, you start to question
your own sanity new what's happening with Tesla? How can
any democrat in America live with themselves watching these crazy
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white liberals, and it's all crazy white liberals, mostly women,
but all crazy white liberals and men who look black
women and that weird like Tim Cook. They all have
that same haircut, you know, like the sixty year old
white lesbian and Aspen.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
They all have that same look.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
They're kind of thin, they're kind of dressed like Ellen
DeGeneres man or woman. They all kind of look the same.
And the men are effeminate and the women are slightly masculine,
and it's just sort of okay, all right, you don't
you really don't know how to address them. The men
have soft voices and the women have deeper voices, a
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bass or a deep bass at a minimum in Alto
Alto Ramon. But you watch this going on and you
think to yourself, and so Ramon came up with a
little mechanism. Because if you have a bit like Signs
and Wonders, Oh we have a sign of Wonders today.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Everyone, If you have a bit, it's already produced and built.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Then when things come to mind and you go, oh
this fits nicely in that vehicle, that's how that's the
delivery mechanism for this random thought otherwise random thought, you
wonder how to get it on the air.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So you know, one of one of.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Us in the group will send an email like, what
the hell's going on with this tesla terrorism thing?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean, you know what's happening.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But imagine that all of a sudden, just overnight, they
are out keying a tesla and it is coordinated. There
are agitators, well funded, Sorrows backed agitators that are pushing
these sorts of things, this narrative, and then the people, you.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Know, they lurch.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
But two years ago they would have never imagined that
they would be out keying random teslas and parking lots,
and now they're.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Compelled to do it. It's really it's zombie esque, right.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So we will ask you know what well, and then
the conversation will and that's how we develop kind of
need k n E A D kind of work our
what's a term ramon in cooking world other than like
massaging the dough or kneadings one, but isn't there another one?
(04:09):
There's a term for kind of working you know, there's
Russell Lebar taught me muddling, Like if you get a
Moscow mule and you want, say blueberries and could you
muddle some?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And I like that act.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It's kind of a cool thing to see the idea
of muddling something. Anyway, so Ramon came up with deep
thoughts by a sane person, and we will play this
for you. But I'm looking for a better title, and
I thought it should be called what it really is,
which is deep thoughts by Ramon while he's sitting on
the pot.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But give this some thought. It's a just trial. And
now deep thoughts from a sane person.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Remember when buying an electric vehicle wasn't a choice, it
was a moral obligation.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
They said, if you didn't drive.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
An EV, a polar Bear would length into its gluten
free kambucha. They tried to shame us into plugging in
like our souls dependent on it. Every commercial looked like
a yoga retreat for smugness, a silent car gliding down
a road made of guilt and recycled NPR too banks.
But now, oh no, now the same folks are boycotting
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evs faster than they can say range anxiety because apparently
Elon said something mean on Twitter, or maybe their tesla
didn't come with a safe space in the glove box.
And these poor DearS, they're horrified that twenty year old
finance nerds are coming through balance sheets on Reddit, pulling
out bankrupt companies like they just found mold in the pantry.
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Oh no, these doge kids are too young to understand.
But hold up, weren't you just building trines to a
sixteen year old reta Thunberg like she was the reincarnation
of Mother Earth but with better banks.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Let me get this straight.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
A high schooler from Sweden can lecture world leaders on
climate policy, but a twenty three year old can't read
a balance sheet and spot a scam. Where was all
this skepticism and FTX was throwing Super Bowl parties with
your retirement fus. Where was the concern for youth and
inexperience when a teenager with a scowl and a sailboat
was testifying in front of the UF And don't even
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get me started on their panic over misinformation. These are
the same folks who spent three years wearing two masks
alone in a Prius BacT checking memes while drinking almond
milk from a paper straw wrapped in plastic. Now suddenly
they're champions of free speech and fiscal restraint. It's like
watching a vegan get mad that a steakhouse doesn't have
goat milt.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Buddy, you built this and that was deep thoughts.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
From the same person. All right, now here's the other version.
You know what really clogs my cooborated. Remember when buying
an electric vehicle wasn't a choice, it was a moral obligation.
They said, if you didn't drive an EV, a polar
bear would weep into its gluten Creek umbucha.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
They tried to shame us and are plugging in like
our souls depended on it. Every commercial looked like a
yoga retreat for smugness, a silent car gliding down a
road made of guilt and recycled MPR tote bag. But now,
oh no, Now the same folks are boycotting evs faster
than they can say range anxiety because apparently Elon said
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something meanie weeny on the Twitter winter, or maybe their
Tesla didn't come with a safe space in the glove box.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And these poor DearS, they're horrified.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The twenty year old finance nerds are combing through balance
sheets on Reddit, calling out bankrupt companies like they just
found mold in the pantry. Oh no, these doge kids.
Oh they're too young to understand. But hold up, weren't
you just building shrines to a sixteen year old Greta
Thumberg like she was the reincarnation of Mother Earth with
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better bangs.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Let me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
A high schooler from Sweden can lecture world leaders on
climate policy, but a twenty three year old can't read
a balance sheet and spot a scam. What was all
this skepticism when FTX was throwing Super Bowl parties with
everything I'll happen.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
The first one better? Hey me, come on, I still
think it should.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Be called deep thoughts by Ramon while sitting on the pipe.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's what they ask is the Michael Berry Show?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Yeah, well, you had the time of your life.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
We had one of the strangest coincidences happened this morning.
There's no point to this story. I'm just telling you
because it's such a strange coincidence. So yesterday, whilst driving
on the iten Feeeder Road at Beltway eight and I
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eastbound going under the beltway, the song Crying by Aerosmith
comes on, and I remember how the tempo changes and
the key changes and becomes a totally different song in
the middle of the song, and how cool it was,
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and it really showcases Stephen Tyler's voice at its peak.
And I was just thinking, that's such a good song.
So I did what I always do, its just amed
it so that the next day or whenever, when Ramone
Ramone picks the bumps, but occasionally he'll go, you got
anything on your mind, because there'll be something related to
what we're about to do. And so at eight thirty
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this morning, unsolicited, I said, can you play Crying by Aerosmith?
And he gave me that look your dog gives you
when they're not sure why you're doing what you're doing.
And I thought, well, I know he knows the song.
He loves Aerosmith. Why do you ask for that? And
I said because I heard it yesterday. He said, because
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Ramona is needy. You didn't listen to what I sent
last night? And I said no, and he said did
you I didn't. Oh, okay, well I'm not playing Crying okay.
So he plays something else I remember what it was,
and then he plays the piece that he had produced
about Steven Tyler, because it's Steven Tyler's birthday today, and
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it was just odd. In twenty years of doing this,
I have never asked for crying by Aerosmith one time.
Today happened to be the day I asked for it.
We do four segments an hour. Five hours is twenty
segments a day. Out of those twenty segments, a five
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percent chance if I was going to ask him for
it today is a five percent chance.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That I would do it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It exactly the moment that he had his bit queued
up to play and it happened.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's a god thing, Ramon, That's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That's what I've decided. Unfortunately, this is not a god thing.
It's a signs of wonders, so disturbing.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
All the damn money, of money and the drugs. It's
just damn beyond everything. What's it mean?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
What's it leading to?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
I don't know. If you'd have told me twenty years
ago i'd see children walking the streets of our Texas
towns with their green hair bones and their noses. I
just flat out withn't the bleak signs and wonders.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
But I think once you quit here in Sir and ma'am,
rest is thing to follow.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh, it's the tad. It's the dismal pad. It is
not the one thing, the one thing. Signs and wonders, Fars,
signs and wonders, talk Fire, it's.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
The visual party, Signs and wondrous signs and wonders.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
The story from Fox twenty six, And bear in mind
the fact pattern is disturbing enough. They're fourteen, that is,
at most a freshman in high school, more likely an
eighth grader. They're still in middle school or junior high,
however you called it. These kids are in junior high
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doing this.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
We still struggling with the pain. You still feel like
if it's a dream, like if it's something that is happening,
like you'd be in a dream that you can't get
out of.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
A memorial grows on the playground at the village of
Baytown Apartments where fourteen year old and Nya Zachary was
shot and killed shortly after coming home from school March
twenty first. Her father, Joseph Zachary, devastated losing his little.
Speaker 10 (13:00):
We have to look at where she took her lass
breath at right here in this park, and I knew
when it happened and everything. She probably was trying to
reach out to her father and try to get to
her father and never think for help.
Speaker 11 (13:15):
Baytown Police confirmed the fourteen year old male suspect, a
Goose Creek ISD student, is in custody in charge with murder.
The family tells us Anaya had problems with the suspect
that school before she.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Was on a bus.
Speaker 12 (13:27):
She said to him for him to leave her alone,
but she but he didn't want to stop that. But
when she got out of the bus, the bus driver
lived led him off the bus too. If you don't
live here, why would you let this child get off
this bus if he lives over there.
Speaker 11 (13:47):
The family also says once Anaya got to the apartment playground,
the suspect approached and started shooting. Neighbors believed the suspect's
parent may be facing charges. Baytown PD says that will
be determined by the day.
Speaker 10 (14:01):
Day we got to live and see how we're gonna
go a boy this ship without seeing.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Her face really devastating.
Speaker 13 (14:09):
So under Texas law, parents are guardians may be held
criminally liable if a child younger than seventeen gains access
to a readily dischargeable firearm due to a failure to
secure it. But the circumstances regarding the weapon used in
this murder have yet to be announced.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Another story from Khou whip number twelve from them.
Speaker 14 (14:37):
Even with this guilty plead, the trial will continue so
the jury can decide a punishment. The prosecution is seeking
the death penalty, arguing that Davis's words aren't enough to
absolve his crimes. In the courtroom today, the prosecution played
audio from nine to one one calls that were made
on the day of this triple murder back in June
twenty twenty one. Investigators have said Davis was hired by
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a childhood friend, Alexis Williams, to carry out the killing
of her ex girlfriend, Danievia Lagway and her family at
the family's apartment. Davis fatally shot Lagway, her husband, Gregory Carhe,
and their six year old daughter, Harmony. And their opening
statements today, prosecutors painted Davis as a career criminal with
a record that started when he was a teenager. The
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defense argued that it was Davis's rough childhood and family
history that led him here does plea of guilty.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
These are just words. We know what his actions are.
Don't let him pretend to be something else.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
There are forces that can affect a human being, that
make you do things that other people wouldn't do, and
you're about to learn that now.
Speaker 14 (15:53):
Today the prosecution called a family member of the victim
to the stand. A Houston police officer also testified. Court
officials have told those that the sentencing phase of this
trial that we're now in could last several weeks. The
last death penalty case in Harris County's three years ago.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Marry SUPERI that week could stop this.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Bobby Braddock, you really putting them talk about a powerhouse
songwriting Chris.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Bobby Braddock wrote a lot of songs for a lot
of artists. I bet he had at least twenty maybe
twenty five artists that you would know, Lacey Dalton, I
think Travis Tritt.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
He wrote would You Catch a Falling Star?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
For John Anderson, which is one of the grittiest and
sad songs of an aging former star. His His big
Tour bus has been turned back in for a rapevan
for an a teen ban or the.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Scooby Doo ban Ban.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
We're still trying to come up with a title for
Ramone's new segment. We think it should start with Deep
Thoughts by or deep thoughts from and our top contenders
so far, feel free to send yours, deep thoughts from
Ramone on the Throne, deep thoughts from the Bidet of Reckoning,
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deep thoughts by the Porcelain Pundit, or from the Porcelain Pundit,
Feel free to send yours along. So ABC thirteen had
a ridiculous story about how HID is making enrollment difficult
for students with criminal charges or records. Now, we just
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played you a story in Beytown of a fourteen year
old pump who came home from school, goes over to
this girl's apartment. She rebuffs him. He goes back to
his apartment, pulls out a pistol and comes back and
shoots her as she's running away from him. But that's
not good enough. When he's done, he's going to do
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it like in the movies. He goes and stands over
her and blasts her in the head. So imagine the scene.
You know, there were little kids in diapers running around
in the middle of that yard. They're all built the
same way. You got the four corners, and then in
the in the middle you got the guys out playing
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dominoes and tricks being turned and the deals being the
drugs being dealt, and there's little kids out there and
everybody's kind of got an eye on them more or less,
and and kids saw that, I mean, just brutal, just vicious. Well,
would you want that kid going to your school? I mean,
would you want that kid going to school with your kid?
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Would you want to teach that kid? Would you want
to have that kid at your school as a teacher?
Would you want him in your class? You see all
these videos now about these students who beat their teachers,
I mean to death, beat them unconscious. I mean, you're
talking about a different culture. You're talking about a different
subset society. And don't worry that it's racial, because black
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people will tell you about it. They know it better
than anybody, because they're the ones often stuck in it.
They're the ones that have to deal with it more
than you do. You can move to the other side
of town, they're stuck. And so ABC thirteen has this
story about how they're having.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Trouble getting into school. Little Tremaine.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He commits, well, you commit one murder, one murder. It's
like the old you suck well, you know, he commit
one murder, and the schools this mother is very upset here.
He did he killed one person, and now they act
like they.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Don't want him in the school. Oh, yo, you don't
want you too? Good for my son? You know, yo?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know my kid?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You's school? Oh okay, okay, So that's that. That ain't fair?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
How that go?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Be fair? Y'all, y'all go tell oh you can't come school? Well,
why how come he can't come school? He got he
got rights, he got rights. HISD doesn't want him there.
Put him in another is you.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Want to put him in a state institution, put him
in a prison. No, no, they don't want him there.
Good for them, high agency move.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well done.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Uh then I'm reminded of the story. In twenty twenty three,
Wisdom High School was called. A Wisdom High School student
who was free on multiple bonds for armed robbery was
allowed to attend classes because you know, we don't we
don't want to tell.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Him no, we want to go along. We don't want
to upset anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And there was a lockdown on the campus when he
returned to the campus after he and his buddies robbed
a man at a nearby apartment complex. Yeah, yeah, you know,
during the break between second and third period. We had
ten minutes, so I would run down. We had a
vending machine and a doctor Pepper machine, and I would
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get a Snickers and a doctor pepper between second and
third period, and from in the one hundred feet it
took from there to get to Miss Martin's class. Third period,
I would scarf the Snickers and the doctor pepper and
man died. It feel good and you got doctor pepper.
Burps is coming out your nose. It's delicious, It's delightful.
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That's between second and third period. That's what I did.
What does this guy do? He goes out to the
apartment complex next door, puts a gun in somebody's face,
and takes their money. I mean, you know, we all
distressed a little differently. You know, his second and third
period breaks very different from mine. This same kid who
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the school was in lockgun and the ffred he's gonna
shoot herver at school. He had been charged with the
crime when he was eleven in sixth grade. He had
been charged with a crime. You're almost starting to get
the idea that there are certain people who can't live
amongst us. They're awful people. There are certain people who
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cannot live amongst us. This is why you see stories
like this PTSD. It's not just for people who serve
in war. There are people who see things and have
to deal with things. There was a story.
Speaker 15 (22:32):
Earlier about two Harris County deputies and a retired deputy
all died by suicide within the span of a week,
and I think within a month this has all just happened.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I think within a month it was four. There was
another one. They have.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Mental health counseling for law enforcement, and some take advantage
of it and some don't. And I think one of
the things that's important is to de shame it. We
don't shame you for realizing you had a heart attack.
Now you need to alter your diet, sleep, water, exercise.
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We don't shame you for having diabetes, go get help
or any other condition. But there is a personal shame
of depression and the effects that I think this line
of work can have. And it's real. My brother served
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two years as an undercover.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Officer at one point, and they would have to wore
a mullet and change his.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Whole appearance, and they have to go and do these
drug buys, and he had to live the character and
in two years we were.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
We did a little interdiction, like, Chris, you got to
get out of this. It's affecting you. These guys go
through some real pray for your law enforce on The
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 16 (24:06):
I've always been the kind of men who doesn't believe
even strings, long term obligations are just unnecessary things. The girl,
You've got me thinking while I'm drinking one more dear,
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if I'm hid for a hardy, then why the hell
master here? I'm testing my resistance and it's well and
mighty things. See this movie got the feeling I shot
before enough.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
O range time it's fantast tells me it's awesomely fantastic,
awesomely awful or awfully awesome, doesn't matter. Turn it out,
turn out to the you clue everybody else watching was
good er.
Speaker 16 (25:04):
While you're turning me every which way, But she turned
me every which way but inside the fires burning me
in my mind. You just keep turning me every which way.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
But babe, there's no which used.
Speaker 16 (25:29):
To turn me every which way?
Speaker 13 (25:34):
Uh Lo.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Rangutan's name was Clyde. If I remember tray the morn
and I find Saint Clint Easwood's character's name.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Was Filo, Philo Fellow, those memories Fillow and Clyde.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
That's a long time. And you talking about almost in
my forty years.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
What was this seventy nine came out seventy eight, seventy seven,
Right in that era, I was eight years old. Man,
when you're eight years old, you don't just have a
crush on Pharaoh Fawcet. I mean you feel a certain
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way and you don't even know why. And I'm not
talking about a burning in your loins, Ramona. I'm talking
about at that point, you just think to yourself, Yeah,
she's not.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Like those other girls.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'd play with her, we'd go back riding together, because
you're eight, you know. But then you have this just
admiration for men you want to be like. But I
think back to men that I admired in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I remember when Noel Ryan came. I was ten.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I remember, I mean Earl Campbell was a god. Dan
Pastorini was man. You couldn't be cooler than Dan Pastorini.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You just you couldn't. There was no cooler cool than
Dan Pastorini.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I mean, I would you know, I could just imagine,
you know, hopping in the truck with bum Phillips and
you're driving, you know, out to his place out near
the George Ranch that he had at that time, Like
that would just be the greatest thing ever, Pap Paul
Bum how many times you go run or this Sunday,
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I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Know, probably about fifty years. What what you're thinking?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean, those were just those were your dream conversations
at that time. It's absolute dream conversations. So we've had
a spate of deputies Harris County Sheriff's deputies commit suicide,
several of.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Them women young, and they're young. These women. I didn't
look at their exact age, but I saw their photos.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I think I think two of the four were Hispanic women,
and they look like they are at the most thirty.
I got to tell you, if you know people in
high stress jobs, let me back up and say this,
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if you have never known of suicide, it is the
most awful thing you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
It is.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
You know, you've had people die in your life, Yes,
that's unfortunate, but to have someone you love commit suicide
that will never leave you, you will take that with
you for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
There just nowhere around it.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Because then you will internalize an accident, all right, an
accident is terrible, but we know accidents happen. A heart attack, Okay, fine,
you know it's gonna happen to us. All just a
question to win, right, But suicide.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Is man, it's it hurts everybody so so so badly.
I get hate mail when I say this.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
What I'm say it anyway because I believe it. It bothers
me when people say of a person who commits suicide
that he took the easy.
Speaker 17 (29:33):
Way out, he was a coward. I don't believe that
at all. I think it's a very brave thing to do.
I think it's a very difficult thing to do. I
don't want people to do it. I don't, but I
think it's awful to say that.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
A person is a coward for doing it. It's hard
to do. It's why so many people fail at it.
If you think about it, if you want to kill yourself,
you can kill yourself not that hard. But people can't
do it because our nature, from the moment we're born
is to survive. That's what gave Marcus Latreuell the will
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to crawl for miles with his body.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Riddled with bullets, he should have been dead.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
The will to survive. You see out in the wilderness
that the Andian Mountain crash and those people that engaged
in cannibalism, unspeakable things because of the will to survive.
The Donner Party, I mean, the things that happen, the
things that people are willing to do, are the things
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that they do to survive. For someone to commit suicide,
my heart aches for people who do that because I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Of the death.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
The death has happened, You're not going to change that.
All I can think about is how much pain did
that person have? How much pain did that person have
that it made sense to them to kill themselves, because
you know, when you kill yourself, you're making everybody else sad.
And you have come to the conclusion of, hey man,
I'm sorry y'all about all this. I'm sorry that everybody's
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going to have to suffer because of this. But this
pain is unbearable. This pain is something I can't I can't,
I can't deal with anymore. I think that's the pain
that the rest of us will never understand. I don't
think we can. Oh that's not true, Michael. I had
a down maybe, but maybe the depth of pain. And
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these are the sorts of things that's psychosomatic. These are
the sorts of things, you know, one person's pain over
another one. When I was growing up, there were several
kids in our region who committed suicide in high school.
You know, Bobby commits suicide because Susie breaks up with him.
We're freshman, fool, what are you doing? In ten years
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you'd be you know, you'd thank God for unanswered prayers
that you didn't marry her. But at that time, in
his crazy mind, that mind is a powerful thing, his
crazy mind that made all the sense in the world. So,
if you've got somebody in your life, a nurse, could
be a teacher, a firefighter, a police officer, a warrior.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
A veteran.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
That serves in a high stress environment, trauma involved, tell
them you love them, help them, get help, Listen to them,
read up on it, find somebody to get them home.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We went looking for.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
We ended up with family Psychiatry of the Williams. We
went looking for a show sponsor in that space because
I decided that it was bothering me obviously. PTSD Foundation
Camp hope is to keep these guys from committing suicide
and give them the tools to survive. But then people
started sending their stories of their kid or their wife
with their husband, or their dad, or somebody in their
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life that committed suicide, their employee.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Sorry, I'm sorry to end the show on such a
dark note. But the answer is have high agency and
do something about it.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
M HM.
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
So Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So as you might imagine, we are sending show ideas, jokes, articles,
we've read video audio of things that we see Trump's comment,
some random listener saying something.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
We need to chase this to ground.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Is there truth to this or not because they claim this,
And oftentimes that's how you find things out. That person
turns out has some inside information, or has a brother
in law, it has some inside information. And that is
our collaborative process that keeps the show running. That's how
we create content. And the challenge is to go from
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those conversations late at night, early in the morning while
one person's driving another person is, you know, doing something else.
Someone else said their kids baseball game. And we're sending
these ideas around and the challenge is to get those
ideas corralled wrangled on the show during the morning and
evening in a format that I can share with you.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And one of the themes that comes.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Up is this idea of if you're a normal person
and you're watching what's going on, you start to question
your own sanity new what's happening with Tesla? How can
any democrat in America live with themselves watching these crazy
(01:54):
white liberals, and it's all crazy white liberals, mostly women,
but all crazy white liberals and men who look black
women and that weird like Tim Cook. They all have
that same haircut, you know, like the sixty year old
white lesbian and Aspen.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
They all have that same look.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
They're kind of thin, they're kind of dressed like Ellen
DeGeneres man or woman. They all kind of look the same.
And the men are effeminate and the women are slightly masculine,
and it's just sort of okay, all right, you don't
you really don't know how to address them. The men
have soft voices and the women have deeper voices, a
(02:34):
bass or a deep bass at a minimum in Alto
Alto Ramon. But you watch this going on and you
think to yourself, and so Ramon came up with a
little mechanism. Because if you have a bit like Signs
and Wonders, Oh we have a sign of Wonders today.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Everyone, If you have a bit, it's already produced and built.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Then when things come to mind and you go, oh
this fits nicely in that vehicle, that's how that's the
delivery mechanism for this random thought otherwise random thought, you
wonder how to get it on the air.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So you know, one of one of.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Us in the group will send an email like, what
the hell's going on with this tesla terrorism thing?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean, you know what's happening.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But imagine that all of a sudden, just overnight, they
are out keying a tesla and it is coordinated. There
are agitators, well funded, Sorrows backed agitators that are pushing
these sorts of things, this narrative, and then the people, you.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Know, they lurch.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
But two years ago they would have never imagined that
they would be out keying random teslas and parking lots,
and now they're.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Compelled to do it. It's really it's zombie esque, right.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So we will ask you know what well, and then
the conversation will and that's how we develop kind of
need k n E A D kind of work our
what's a term ramon in cooking world other than like
massaging the dough or kneadings one, but isn't there another one?
(04:09):
There's a term for kind of working you know, there's
Russell Lebar taught me muddling, Like if you get a
Moscow mule and you want, say blueberries and could you
muddle some?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And I like that act.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It's kind of a cool thing to see the idea
of muddling something. Anyway, so Ramon came up with deep
thoughts by a sane person, and we will play this
for you. But I'm looking for a better title, and
I thought it should be called what it really is,
which is deep thoughts by Ramon while he's sitting on
the pot.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But give this some thought. It's a just trial. And
now deep thoughts from a sane person.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Remember when buying an electric vehicle wasn't a choice, it
was a moral obligation.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
They said, if you didn't drive.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
An EV, a polar Bear would length into its gluten
free kambucha. They tried to shame us into plugging in
like our souls dependent on it. Every commercial looked like
a yoga retreat for smugness, a silent car gliding down
a road made of guilt and recycled NPR too banks.
But now, oh no, now the same folks are boycotting
(05:16):
evs faster than they can say range anxiety because apparently
Elon said something mean on Twitter, or maybe their tesla
didn't come with a safe space in the glove box.
And these poor DearS, they're horrified that twenty year old
finance nerds are coming through balance sheets on Reddit, pulling
out bankrupt companies like they just found mold in the pantry.
(05:37):
Oh no, these doge kids are too young to understand.
But hold up, weren't you just building trines to a
sixteen year old reta Thunberg like she was the reincarnation
of Mother Earth but with better banks.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Let me get this straight.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
A high schooler from Sweden can lecture world leaders on
climate policy, but a twenty three year old can't read
a balance sheet and spot a scam. Where was all
this skepticism and FTX was throwing Super Bowl parties with
your retirement fus. Where was the concern for youth and
inexperience when a teenager with a scowl and a sailboat
was testifying in front of the UF And don't even
(06:13):
get me started on their panic over misinformation. These are
the same folks who spent three years wearing two masks
alone in a Prius BacT checking memes while drinking almond
milk from a paper straw wrapped in plastic. Now suddenly
they're champions of free speech and fiscal restraint. It's like
watching a vegan get mad that a steakhouse doesn't have
goat milt.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Buddy, you built this and that was deep thoughts.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
From the same person. All right, now here's the other version.
You know what really clogs my cooborated. Remember when buying
an electric vehicle wasn't a choice, it was a moral obligation.
They said, if you didn't drive an EV, a polar
bear would weep into its gluten Creek umbucha.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
They tried to shame us and are plugging in like
our souls depended on it. Every commercial looked like a
yoga retreat for smugness, a silent car gliding down a
road made of guilt and recycled MPR tote bag. But now,
oh no, Now the same folks are boycotting evs faster
than they can say range anxiety because apparently Elon said
(07:23):
something meanie weeny on the Twitter winter, or maybe their
Tesla didn't come with a safe space in the glove box.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And these poor DearS, they're horrified.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The twenty year old finance nerds are combing through balance
sheets on Reddit, calling out bankrupt companies like they just
found mold in the pantry. Oh no, these doge kids.
Oh they're too young to understand. But hold up, weren't
you just building shrines to a sixteen year old Greta
Thumberg like she was the reincarnation of Mother Earth with
(07:52):
better bangs.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Let me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
A high schooler from Sweden can lecture world leaders on
climate policy, but a twenty three year old can't read
a balance sheet and spot a scam. What was all
this skepticism when FTX was throwing Super Bowl parties with
everything I'll happen.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
The first one better? Hey me, come on, I still
think it should.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Be called deep thoughts by Ramon while sitting on the pipe.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
That's what they ask is the Michael Berry Show?
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Yeah, well, you had the time of your life.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
We had one of the strangest coincidences happened this morning.
There's no point to this story. I'm just telling you
because it's such a strange coincidence. So yesterday, whilst driving
on the iten Feeeder Road at Beltway eight and I
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eastbound going under the beltway, the song Crying by Aerosmith
comes on, and I remember how the tempo changes and
the key changes and becomes a totally different song in
the middle of the song, and how cool it was,
(09:16):
and it really showcases Stephen Tyler's voice at its peak.
And I was just thinking, that's such a good song.
So I did what I always do, its just amed
it so that the next day or whenever, when Ramone
Ramone picks the bumps, but occasionally he'll go, you got
anything on your mind, because there'll be something related to
what we're about to do. And so at eight thirty
(09:38):
this morning, unsolicited, I said, can you play Crying by Aerosmith?
And he gave me that look your dog gives you
when they're not sure why you're doing what you're doing.
And I thought, well, I know he knows the song.
He loves Aerosmith. Why do you ask for that? And
I said because I heard it yesterday. He said, because
(10:00):
Ramona is needy. You didn't listen to what I sent
last night? And I said no, and he said did
you I didn't. Oh, okay, well I'm not playing Crying okay.
So he plays something else I remember what it was,
and then he plays the piece that he had produced
about Steven Tyler, because it's Steven Tyler's birthday today, and
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it was just odd. In twenty years of doing this,
I have never asked for crying by Aerosmith one time.
Today happened to be the day I asked for it.
We do four segments an hour. Five hours is twenty
segments a day. Out of those twenty segments, a five
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percent chance if I was going to ask him for
it today is a five percent chance.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That I would do it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It exactly the moment that he had his bit queued
up to play and it happened.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's a god thing, Ramon, That's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That's what I've decided. Unfortunately, this is not a god thing.
It's a signs of wonders, so disturbing.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
All the damn money, of money and the drugs. It's
just damn beyond everything. What's it mean?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
What's it leading to?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
I don't know. If you'd have told me twenty years
ago i'd see children walking the streets of our Texas
towns with their green hair bones and their noses. I
just flat out withn't the bleak signs and wonders.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
But I think once you quit here in Sir and ma'am,
rest is thing to follow.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh, it's the tad. It's the dismal pad. It is
not the one thing, the one thing. Signs and wonders, Fars,
signs and wonders, talk Fire, it's.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
The visual party, Signs and wondrous signs and wonders.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
The story from Fox twenty six, And bear in mind
the fact pattern is disturbing enough. They're fourteen, that is,
at most a freshman in high school, more likely an
eighth grader. They're still in middle school or junior high,
however you called it. These kids are in junior high
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doing this.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
We still struggling with the pain. You still feel like
if it's a dream, like if it's something that is happening,
like you'd be in a dream that you can't get
out of.
Speaker 11 (12:46):
A memorial grows on the playground at the village of
Baytown Apartments where fourteen year old and Nya Zachary was
shot and killed shortly after coming home from school March
twenty first. Her father, Joseph Zachary, devastated losing his little.
Speaker 10 (13:00):
We have to look at where she took her lass
breath at right here in this park, and I knew
when it happened and everything. She probably was trying to
reach out to her father and try to get to
her father and never think for help.
Speaker 11 (13:15):
Baytown Police confirmed the fourteen year old male suspect, a
Goose Creek ISD student, is in custody in charge with murder.
The family tells us Anaya had problems with the suspect
that school before she.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Was on a bus.
Speaker 12 (13:27):
She said to him for him to leave her alone,
but she but he didn't want to stop that. But
when she got out of the bus, the bus driver
lived led him off the bus too. If you don't
live here, why would you let this child get off
this bus if he lives over there.
Speaker 11 (13:47):
The family also says once Anaya got to the apartment playground,
the suspect approached and started shooting. Neighbors believed the suspect's
parent may be facing charges. Baytown PD says that will
be determined by the day.
Speaker 10 (14:01):
Day we got to live and see how we're gonna
go a boy this ship without seeing.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Her face really devastating.
Speaker 13 (14:09):
So under Texas law, parents are guardians may be held
criminally liable if a child younger than seventeen gains access
to a readily dischargeable firearm due to a failure to
secure it. But the circumstances regarding the weapon used in
this murder have yet to be announced.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Another story from Khou whip number twelve from them.
Speaker 14 (14:37):
Even with this guilty plead, the trial will continue so
the jury can decide a punishment. The prosecution is seeking
the death penalty, arguing that Davis's words aren't enough to
absolve his crimes. In the courtroom today, the prosecution played
audio from nine to one one calls that were made
on the day of this triple murder back in June
twenty twenty one. Investigators have said Davis was hired by
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a childhood friend, Alexis Williams, to carry out the killing
of her ex girlfriend, Danievia Lagway and her family at
the family's apartment. Davis fatally shot Lagway, her husband, Gregory Carhe,
and their six year old daughter, Harmony. And their opening
statements today, prosecutors painted Davis as a career criminal with
a record that started when he was a teenager. The
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defense argued that it was Davis's rough childhood and family
history that led him here does plea of guilty.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
These are just words. We know what his actions are.
Don't let him pretend to be something else.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
There are forces that can affect a human being, that
make you do things that other people wouldn't do, and
you're about to learn that now.
Speaker 14 (15:53):
Today the prosecution called a family member of the victim
to the stand. A Houston police officer also testified. Court
officials have told those that the sentencing phase of this
trial that we're now in could last several weeks. The
last death penalty case in Harris County's three years ago.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Marry SUPERI that week could stop this.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Bobby Braddock, you really putting them talk about a powerhouse
songwriting Chris.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Bobby Braddock wrote a lot of songs for a lot
of artists. I bet he had at least twenty maybe
twenty five artists that you would know, Lacey Dalton, I
think Travis Tritt.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
He wrote would You Catch a Falling Star?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
For John Anderson, which is one of the grittiest and
sad songs of an aging former star. His His big
Tour bus has been turned back in for a rapevan
for an a teen ban or the.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Scooby Doo ban Ban.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
We're still trying to come up with a title for
Ramone's new segment. We think it should start with Deep
Thoughts by or deep thoughts from and our top contenders
so far, feel free to send yours, deep thoughts from
Ramone on the Throne, deep thoughts from the Bidet of Reckoning,
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deep thoughts by the Porcelain Pundit, or from the Porcelain Pundit,
Feel free to send yours along. So ABC thirteen had
a ridiculous story about how HID is making enrollment difficult
for students with criminal charges or records. Now, we just
(17:52):
played you a story in Beytown of a fourteen year
old pump who came home from school, goes over to
this girl's apartment. She rebuffs him. He goes back to
his apartment, pulls out a pistol and comes back and
shoots her as she's running away from him. But that's
not good enough. When he's done, he's going to do
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it like in the movies. He goes and stands over
her and blasts her in the head. So imagine the scene.
You know, there were little kids in diapers running around
in the middle of that yard. They're all built the
same way. You got the four corners, and then in
the in the middle you got the guys out playing
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dominoes and tricks being turned and the deals being the
drugs being dealt, and there's little kids out there and
everybody's kind of got an eye on them more or less,
and and kids saw that, I mean, just brutal, just vicious. Well,
would you want that kid going to your school? I mean,
would you want that kid going to school with your kid?
(18:57):
Would you want to teach that kid? Would you want
to have that kid at your school as a teacher?
Would you want him in your class? You see all
these videos now about these students who beat their teachers,
I mean to death, beat them unconscious. I mean, you're
talking about a different culture. You're talking about a different
subset society. And don't worry that it's racial, because black
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people will tell you about it. They know it better
than anybody, because they're the ones often stuck in it.
They're the ones that have to deal with it more
than you do. You can move to the other side
of town, they're stuck. And so ABC thirteen has this
story about how they're having.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Trouble getting into school. Little Tremaine.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He commits, well, you commit one murder, one murder. It's
like the old you suck well, you know, he commit
one murder, and the schools this mother is very upset here.
He did he killed one person, and now they act
like they.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Don't want him in the school. Oh, yo, you don't
want you too? Good for my son? You know, yo?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know my kid?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You's school? Oh okay, okay, So that's that. That ain't fair?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
How that go?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Be fair? Y'all, y'all go tell oh you can't come school? Well,
why how come he can't come school? He got he
got rights, he got rights. HISD doesn't want him there.
Put him in another is you.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Want to put him in a state institution, put him
in a prison. No, no, they don't want him there.
Good for them, high agency move.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well done.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Uh then I'm reminded of the story. In twenty twenty three,
Wisdom High School was called. A Wisdom High School student
who was free on multiple bonds for armed robbery was
allowed to attend classes because you know, we don't we
don't want to tell.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Him no, we want to go along. We don't want
to upset anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
And there was a lockdown on the campus when he
returned to the campus after he and his buddies robbed
a man at a nearby apartment complex. Yeah, yeah, you know,
during the break between second and third period. We had
ten minutes, so I would run down. We had a
vending machine and a doctor Pepper machine, and I would
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get a Snickers and a doctor pepper between second and
third period, and from in the one hundred feet it
took from there to get to Miss Martin's class. Third period,
I would scarf the Snickers and the doctor pepper and
man died. It feel good and you got doctor pepper.
Burps is coming out your nose. It's delicious, It's delightful.
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That's between second and third period. That's what I did.
What does this guy do? He goes out to the
apartment complex next door, puts a gun in somebody's face,
and takes their money. I mean, you know, we all
distressed a little differently. You know, his second and third
period breaks very different from mine. This same kid who
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the school was in lockgun and the ffred he's gonna
shoot herver at school. He had been charged with the
crime when he was eleven in sixth grade. He had
been charged with a crime. You're almost starting to get
the idea that there are certain people who can't live
amongst us. They're awful people. There are certain people who
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cannot live amongst us. This is why you see stories
like this PTSD. It's not just for people who serve
in war. There are people who see things and have
to deal with things. There was a story.
Speaker 15 (22:32):
Earlier about two Harris County deputies and a retired deputy
all died by suicide within the span of a week,
and I think within a month this has all just happened.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I think within a month it was four. There was
another one. They have.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Mental health counseling for law enforcement, and some take advantage
of it and some don't. And I think one of
the things that's important is to de shame it. We
don't shame you for realizing you had a heart attack.
Now you need to alter your diet, sleep, water, exercise.
(23:15):
We don't shame you for having diabetes, go get help
or any other condition. But there is a personal shame
of depression and the effects that I think this line
of work can have. And it's real. My brother served
(23:39):
two years as an undercover.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Officer at one point, and they would have to wore
a mullet and change his.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Whole appearance, and they have to go and do these
drug buys, and he had to live the character and
in two years we were.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
We did a little interdiction, like, Chris, you got to
get out of this. It's affecting you. These guys go
through some real pray for your law enforce on The
Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 16 (24:06):
I've always been the kind of men who doesn't believe
even strings, long term obligations are just unnecessary things. The girl,
You've got me thinking while I'm drinking one more dear,
(24:27):
if I'm hid for a hardy, then why the hell
master here? I'm testing my resistance and it's well and
mighty things. See this movie got the feeling I shot
before enough.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
O range time it's fantast tells me it's awesomely fantastic,
awesomely awful or awfully awesome, doesn't matter. Turn it out,
turn out to the you clue everybody else watching was
good er.
Speaker 16 (25:04):
While you're turning me every which way, But she turned
me every which way but inside the fires burning me
in my mind. You just keep turning me every which way.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
But babe, there's no which used.
Speaker 16 (25:29):
To turn me every which way?
Speaker 13 (25:34):
Uh Lo.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Rangutan's name was Clyde. If I remember tray the morn
and I find Saint Clint Easwood's character's name.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Was Filo, Philo Fellow, those memories Fillow and Clyde.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
That's a long time. And you talking about almost in
my forty years.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
What was this seventy nine came out seventy eight, seventy seven,
Right in that era, I was eight years old. Man,
when you're eight years old, you don't just have a
crush on Pharaoh Fawcet. I mean you feel a certain
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way and you don't even know why. And I'm not
talking about a burning in your loins, Ramona. I'm talking
about at that point, you just think to yourself, Yeah,
she's not.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Like those other girls.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'd play with her, we'd go back riding together, because
you're eight, you know. But then you have this just
admiration for men you want to be like. But I
think back to men that I admired in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I remember when Noel Ryan came. I was ten.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I remember, I mean Earl Campbell was a god. Dan
Pastorini was man. You couldn't be cooler than Dan Pastorini.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You just you couldn't. There was no cooler cool than
Dan Pastorini.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I mean, I would you know, I could just imagine,
you know, hopping in the truck with bum Phillips and
you're driving, you know, out to his place out near
the George Ranch that he had at that time, Like
that would just be the greatest thing ever, Pap Paul
Bum how many times you go run or this Sunday,
(27:42):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Know, probably about fifty years. What what you're thinking?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I mean, those were just those were your dream conversations
at that time. It's absolute dream conversations. So we've had
a spate of deputies Harris County Sheriff's deputies commit suicide,
several of.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Them women young, and they're young. These women. I didn't
look at their exact age, but I saw their photos.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I think I think two of the four were Hispanic women,
and they look like they are at the most thirty.
I got to tell you, if you know people in
high stress jobs, let me back up and say this,
(28:30):
if you have never known of suicide, it is the
most awful thing you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
It is.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
You know, you've had people die in your life, Yes,
that's unfortunate, but to have someone you love commit suicide
that will never leave you, you will take that with
you for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
There just nowhere around it.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Because then you will internalize an accident, all right, an
accident is terrible, but we know accidents happen. A heart attack, Okay, fine,
you know it's gonna happen to us. All just a
question to win, right, But suicide.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Is man, it's it hurts everybody so so so badly.
I get hate mail when I say this.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
What I'm say it anyway because I believe it. It bothers
me when people say of a person who commits suicide
that he took the easy.
Speaker 17 (29:33):
Way out, he was a coward. I don't believe that
at all. I think it's a very brave thing to do.
I think it's a very difficult thing to do. I
don't want people to do it. I don't, but I
think it's awful to say that.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
A person is a coward for doing it. It's hard
to do. It's why so many people fail at it.
If you think about it, if you want to kill yourself,
you can kill yourself not that hard. But people can't
do it because our nature, from the moment we're born
is to survive. That's what gave Marcus Latreuell the will
(30:15):
to crawl for miles with his body.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Riddled with bullets, he should have been dead.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
The will to survive. You see out in the wilderness
that the Andian Mountain crash and those people that engaged
in cannibalism, unspeakable things because of the will to survive.
The Donner Party, I mean, the things that happen, the
things that people are willing to do, are the things
(30:41):
that they do to survive. For someone to commit suicide,
my heart aches for people who do that because I
don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Of the death.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
The death has happened, You're not going to change that.
All I can think about is how much pain did
that person have? How much pain did that person have
that it made sense to them to kill themselves, because
you know, when you kill yourself, you're making everybody else sad.
And you have come to the conclusion of, hey man,
I'm sorry y'all about all this. I'm sorry that everybody's
(31:14):
going to have to suffer because of this. But this
pain is unbearable. This pain is something I can't I can't,
I can't deal with anymore. I think that's the pain
that the rest of us will never understand. I don't
think we can. Oh that's not true, Michael. I had
a down maybe, but maybe the depth of pain. And
(31:35):
these are the sorts of things that's psychosomatic. These are
the sorts of things, you know, one person's pain over
another one. When I was growing up, there were several
kids in our region who committed suicide in high school.
You know, Bobby commits suicide because Susie breaks up with him.
We're freshman, fool, what are you doing? In ten years
(31:55):
you'd be you know, you'd thank God for unanswered prayers
that you didn't marry her. But at that time, in
his crazy mind, that mind is a powerful thing, his
crazy mind that made all the sense in the world. So,
if you've got somebody in your life, a nurse, could
be a teacher, a firefighter, a police officer, a warrior.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
A veteran.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
That serves in a high stress environment, trauma involved, tell
them you love them, help them, get help, Listen to them,
read up on it, find somebody to get them home.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
We went looking for.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
We ended up with family Psychiatry of the Williams. We
went looking for a show sponsor in that space because
I decided that it was bothering me obviously. PTSD Foundation
Camp hope is to keep these guys from committing suicide
and give them the tools to survive. But then people
started sending their stories of their kid or their wife
with their husband, or their dad, or somebody in their
(33:01):
life that committed suicide, their employee.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Sorry, I'm sorry to end the show on such a
dark note. But the answer is have high agency and
do something about it.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
M HM.
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