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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time time luck and load. So Michael
Arry Show is on the air. I've had joys.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Since the day that I was boss.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Voice carefully I told me right from wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
If I have to listen.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
No, I wouldn't be here the joyving and die with
the choices I've made.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I was tempted.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
By an early age.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I found I like drink.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh, and I never turned it down.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Every loved one, but I turned them all over on
loving and die with.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
The choices I've made. I've had choices.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Since the day that I was born. There revoice.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That told me right from long if I had listen.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
No, I wouldn't need hear to dieving, die with the choices.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm interesting to me in the course of my life,
different things that happened that I notice. How we deal
with the concept of accountability and consequences and how they
are extolled or forgotten in common conversation and in popular culture.
(02:30):
Really interesting phenomenon to me, because we have a tendency
to ignore the idea. Do whatever you want, damn the consequences.
Do what makes you feel good, Do what gives you gratification.
(02:54):
I think gratification is a better word than happiness, because
happiness is a silly word, as it's used most.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Of the time. Nobody's walking around and we're happy. We're
all happy all the time, just happy. You'd get bored
being happy, you would. Jordan Peterson has really done some.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Important work on this subject. He's not the first, but
he's the first to take it to such a big audience.
And the idea that he has that he has really
popularized is that the pursuit of happiness per se is
a fool's errand you never actually achieve happiness. Many people
(03:43):
are watching pop culture and they think the Kardashians are happy,
or Diddy is happy, or Epstein is happy, or Lizzo
or whoever else, and then they're shocked to find out
that person isn't happy in the sense that they believe
(04:03):
they would be happy, this euphoria overcoming you at all
times in warm sensation, and believe it or not, even
though that person is their hero. That person is they
would sell off their kidney to get to go to
a concert, to just be part of a screaming, teeming
mass of people cheering that that person is singing the
(04:24):
song they've already heard a thousand times. But in the
same zip code as them. They're also delighted to learn
that those people are usually miserable because they have been
on a journey to the destination of happiness, and as
it turns out, happiness is not Neverland. So that makes
(04:48):
him feel good because I may not be happy, but
it turns out that person is supposed to be happy.
He's supposed to be happy, and he's not happy. So
that makes me feel better because I thought he was
just sitting or just being happy all the time. But
what Jordan Peterson has done I think groundbreaking work in
terms of taking it to the masses. As I say,
(05:09):
it's not the first to come up with this, I
understand this. The idea that happiness is not the pursuit
of man should not be the pursuit of man. It's
a throwaway terms. It's a simplistic term that has become
a catch all. In economics, we use the term utility.
(05:32):
It gives some people utility to do this or that.
Doesn't mean they're smiling necessarily. If you hate pedophiles and
you get to be the executioner of pedophiles, doesn't make
you happy to be the executioner, but it gives you
utility and Rick Warren in twenty twelve. I think it
(05:56):
was wrote The Purpose Driven Life, which I actually think
it was an important book at the time. The idea
of finding purpose in your life and what you do,
living purposefully, intentionally, knowing why you're here and what you're doing.
(06:19):
And I've come to learn that this is why some people,
I'm going to use that term, are very happy doing
a job when they don't need to work anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The Walmart reader kind of went away. I loved the
Walmart reader. I loved the Walmart reader because so many
of the Walmart readers didn't need to work. They didn't
turn the money down because that's what they used to
buy a cup of coffee while they were there. They
arrived early, they stayed late, they stayed afterwards. They took
(06:54):
their penny off and hung around, or kept their penny on.
They loved to greet people. What a brilliant idea. You
take this cold, soulless warehouse full of junk that people
are coming into to grab, most of which they could
(07:16):
do without, and you put a human face on it,
a real human face, not a kid on a phone,
not not somebody disinterested, not somebody checking sports scores or
texting their buddies or taking Peter pics, a real human
being in comfortable shoes, welcoming people into your cold, soulless warehouse.
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It was a brilliant a strike, a stroke of brilliance.
It was a brilliant move. I love everything about it.
But what it spoke to in me, which I don't
understand too many years later, was the idea of having purpose.
I have known so many people over the years who
cannot wait to retire, and the moment they retire, they
(08:09):
have the world out of the tail, and within a
couple of days they realize they've lost their purpose, even
if work was not their purpose, because they're pulling a paycheck,
punch in a clock. They they they've lost their routine,
and in that routine was comfort. You may not like
(08:31):
your job per se, the actual job, but we put
some we put some dressing on it. Right. We put
a writ on the way to your job. You may
stop and get a kalachi and you really like talking
to the people there at lunch. You might enjoy walking
across the street and talk on the way home. You
might Kamala Harris was just officially endorsed by IRS agency.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Believe it.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Michael Barry show, I'd rather not have that endorsement.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Across the river to die great. Rodney krou Down recorded
it back in eighteen or nineteen. Some of you will
have noticed he transposed the names. He said of the
two friends of his who were border guards who would
(09:23):
rot in jail, he called them compos and Ramen. It
was Ramos and Combian. Remember we spent a lot of
time talking about that case. Remember Border Patrol agent Brian
Terry I believe was his name. When Eric holders Fast
and Furious put a bunch of guns illegally on the streets.
(09:45):
The idea was they would go to Mexico and they
would kill a bunch of people those guns. They would
be involved in killings, and the American people would be
so outraged that we would call for gun control. That's
what these people are willing to do to get their way.
Collateral damage, human shields, they don't care. You can all
be sacrificed. They're going to get their way. That story,
(10:10):
those two Border patrol agents, that was Johnny Sutton was
the US attorney out somewhere in West Texas, El Paso,
maybe Laredo, I can't recall who prosecuted them. And Johnny
Sutton's father.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Was my.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Supervisor on a directed work project I did in law school.
Professor Sutton, he taught ethics and I liked his father
a lot. I didn't know Johnny. He was a Bush appointee,
but he had brought that case against Ramos and Compion
and I was very angry about that. And Johnny is
(10:55):
a very likable guy. I think he's in private practice now,
but I remember interviewing him during that time and I said, look,
I find you to be a very charming person on
a personal level, very accomplished attorney and now US attorney.
But I think I think there's a special place in
hell for prosecuting these two men the way you have.
(11:16):
I think it's wrong. And the Bushes did a lot
of this. This is and Romney would do it if
given the chance. And this is this idea of wanting
to show see I'm not I'm not like those maga people.
Look at how sensitive I am. You get this from
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a lot of establishment Republicans that they desperately want to
show how kind and gentle they are so they will
turn against Greg Abbott. Does it all the time, all
the time, he will do such a thing. Remember Shelley Luther,
was that her name, Shelley Luthor, the one had the
hair salon. He allowed the crackdown on her hair salon
(12:07):
because that was part of the narrative and he didn't
want to seem like a person that was going against
the COVID narrative. Sterling, you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Go ahead, sir, Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm good, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Hey. So, my first job in nineteen eighty four, I
tell everybody I was an aqua flow engineer, but it
was just a big word for being a water boy
at a garden center that Forty years later, I'm still
involved in retail. Just so many lessons you get from
whether it's fast food or retail.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Have impacted my life and I'm now fixing to be
fifty four. From how to treat people, how you want
to be treated, how to treat associates, how not to
treat associates. And I think the one that stuck with
me was when I was a manager at Low's and
the CEO at the time, a great guy named Bob Tillman, said,
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if you're taking care of your people, You're taking care
of the business, and that just resonated with me the
rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's a very Russell and Borrow thing to say. Were
you did? You say you were at garden Ridge Pottery?
Where did you work? I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Actually lived in West Texas. I was in Midland, Texas
at the time at a little place called the Casaverdi
Garden Center.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That would be my wife's dream job.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Oh it was a blast, I mean, and I turned
it into being a Texas Certified nursery professional. And even
now I'm in retail as a second job, just because
I enjoy it so much, interacting with the people and
the public.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And where are.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
You come back to help a project at home? I
am an assistant store manager for Ace hard I took.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
It home.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
To try to intimidate me. We were just talking about
a second job.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
No, I took you.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's a hardware which one.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Now Ace Hardware. It's in Lobby Texas love them eighty
second and slide. It's actually yep. It's a grocery store
on one side and it transitions into an Ace Hardware
on the other side, so you can go in and
get your nuts bolts, drills, paint, what not, and then
go get your steaks for dinner later on.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I love that, you know. I love the Ace Hardware model.
Over the years I've had Ace Hardware, uh you know
they they're each individually owned. I've had different folks want
to be show sponsored, and I'm told them, absolutely, I
love the Ace Hardware model.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The vice president in the history of our.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Christ the Michael Berry, we can't afford four more years
of this.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
The former CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch, a youth clothing retailer,
has been arrested in Florida today from a New York
investigation into child sex trafficking. There is a deviance of
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sex with children that seems to go hand in hand
with many, not all, but with many celebrities and powerful
people in this country. I've given a lot of thought
to this. I've had a lot of conversations with law
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enforcement who've investigated these things, and with mental health professionals
who studied them, and I've come to my own conclusion,
and that is that sex with children, for rich, powerful
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people is the final frontier. It is for them, the
most debauched thing you can do. Over the years, studying
people I have found that many rock stars will develop
(16:30):
extreme perversions because they start with the I want to
be in a band to get chicks. And whether they
admit it or not, that's why everybody's in a band.
A lot of them admit it. That's why there wasn't
anything more to it than that they wanted chicks. They
knew chicks loved rock stars, and so then they started
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getting chicks, and then they got married, and so then
there was the additional chicks to the marriage. That's a thrill.
And then there were multiple chicks, and then there were
random chicks, and then there was dehumanizing chicks, and maybe
then it turned. It turned to dudes and different things
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that were illegal or weird or perverse or all of
that was like the heroine addict chasing the high chasing,
the naughty, chasing the new. The most repugnant thing you
can do is have sex with a child, an innocent child.
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It is the most repugnant, and I think that is
the thrill. The thrill for these people is that it
is crossing the final frontier, the final boundary, doing that
which cannot be done, should not be done, will not
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be done, and yet they can do it. That is
the feeling of being a god, and I believe that's
why they do it. You look at the names who've
been associated with these things today, it's the former CEO
of Abercrombie and Fitch. The entirety of Jeffrey Epstein was
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not sex. Everybody on those planes could get all the
sex they wanted. They could get it free or they
could pay for it. It really didn't matter. And they
had is sex with children. That's what they want. That's
their elixir, that's their drug, that's the power, that is
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the god complex. Well, there are powerful and devious people
who know that, so they create a very elaborate structure
whereby people who you are going to want to control
because they are very powerful, can be compromised if you
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create an elaborate structure to allow them to indulge in
their worst fantasy. And that's what the Epstein story was about.
People think the Epstein story is a sex story.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
There's a lot of debauchery. There's sick and disgusting things
going on, even to children across the country. That's happening
in Sioux City, Iowa, or Kirbyville, Texas. The story there
is far more than the child's sex angle. That was
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the hook to sell a nation down the river. That
was how Epstein's handlers, who I believe in the Chinese.
That's how you get control. And Epstein was very, very
useful to do that. Epstein never made money, never made money.
He didn't have the wealth. Do you understand the logistics
of moving this many people like this to a private island,
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moving this many children there, hiding this, recording it so
that he could be used later. Kevin Lily is the
chairman of the Texas Alcohol Beverage Commission, and he and
I had coffee a couple of years ago, probably five
years ago, and he said, we're going after sex traffickers Michael,
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and this is big. And he was so gung ho.
This is big. This sex trafficking is bigger than you
can imagine. We're going after him. And I thought, what
a weird well yess I have to do with TBC? Well,
big announcement today, nine we'll not today this week, nine shops,
nine bars closed. They were sex trafficking children. Kevin Lily
(20:58):
was at five of the nine bus He's gonna come
on show in a few days and talk about it.
It turns out a lot of these bars or fronts
for child's sex traffic. This is so much bigger than
people would ever believe.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
They have pledged to carry out the largest deportation, a
mass deportation with imagine what that would look like us fry.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Subcurity.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Big.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's a final line, as country music haspat there. It
really is so much deeper than you'd think. Dean Holloway
was Merl Hager's dear friend and bus driver. Story goes,
Dean was at the back of the bus and we'll
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turn it back up.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Been working every day since I was twenty. I haven't
got a thing in the show for anything I've There's
folks who never were and they got Dave God let
(22:11):
Y think it's time you guys like the Hads some fun.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So the story goes they were at the recording studio
and Merle went out to the bus to check on
his buddy Dean. It was laid out on one of
the beds. Give me is your eyes. Yeah, that's tire
of this dirty old city. And Merl said, let's turned up.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And you're so calm, social secured.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
There's so called social fix it turn news and sat
and sorry. He started talking about it not like me
being in the big city. And Merle famously to hear
Merle tell the story, say well, where would.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
You like to be?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And he said, somewhere in the middle of damn Montana,
really just as far away from the big city as
he could get. And he dropped the damn But that's
where the somewhere in the middle of Montana goes. So
Merle Haggard tells the story that he knew he had
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some so he rushed back in the studio the band
was packing up. He doesn't have to pack up. He's
Merl Haggard coming out to the bust, tell Dean to
turn it on, get the air conditioning run, and get
this thing comfortable. He ran back in, he said, guys,
put your gear back down. We got to do one
more song. Ah, because doing one song is not three minutes.
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It's going to require rehearsals, and all this with no rehearsal.
This is Merle Haggard's story, not mind no rehearsal. In
one take they did that song and that's what you
heard right there. They recorded it. Merle Haggard being Merle Haggard. Now,
Willie wouldn't have done this and George Straight wouldn't have
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done this, But Merle Haggard, did you fill out the
little form in a little form for writer. It was
Merle Haggard who had written it, and it was a
co writer, Dean Holloway. He gave Dean Holloway credit for
that that would end up in the course of Dean
Holloway's life to net him five hundred thousand dollars. It's
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a pretty gracious act of Merle Haggard's part. We've been
going back and forth to Austin to see t Bone
and on the way stopping in the Greater Brnome area,
and unfortunately Houston is moving to Washington County. Houston is
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moving lock Stock and Borough to all the way out
to Anderson, but all the way out to Hunt. But
in big numbers, Houston is moving to Waller County, Washington County,
all the way out to Lee County, Fayette County. It's incredible.
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I'm not mad about it because I'm going to be
one of them, so I you know, that's my lot
in life. I can't really complain about them and then
be one. But I think there's several factors that play here,
and one of them is. People have had it with
the cultural rot in the city of Houston. They've had
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it with the cultural rot, the trash cultures, the guns,
I mean, the gunfire, the random violence. People have had it.
They could tolerate the traffic, the noise and the congestion
and all that, but it's the randomness and the senselessness
(26:13):
of it. Your gutter hood rat thug will kill somebody
for no good reason, not even take their wallet, and
there's just something about that that it violates your sense
of order and decency. We only get one life. So
we were looking at a house out there who's on
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a road called Dixie Road, and it's just off that
jug handle turn if you know where two ninety turns
and goes up, and then you can go up thirty
six from there and you turn right and go into Brenham.
And there was this little cabin. It was a perfect
little cabin and it was only five acres. My wife
(26:54):
likes acreage. She wants to have horses and cattle and
wear her boots out and go far stuff again. And
she misses those days because we had a place out
in the country for years and she wants that back.
When Crockett graduates, which is not too long. And we're
driving up on this place and we go around the
back to get there and we pull up on it
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and as we're pulling up, she said, Oh my god,
this looks like Katie or sugar Land or pear Land.
This is a full blown master plan development. And it's
the first one I've seen like that out there. It's uh,
if you know where Dixie Road is, you enter it.
I think off Dixie Road. It's called uh, maybe Vintage.
(27:38):
They all have the same name, Vintage Legs or something,
but it's right off of kind of two ninety and
thirty six. But it was hundreds of homes and it
was just never thought I'd see that we had a
place out in car I mean twenty three years ago,
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and it was every house out there had been out
there for a long time, nothing new. You didn't build
new development. And now it's coming and the locals hate it,
and it's understandable. Look, you don't get to stop people
from coming because your people came, and when your people came,
the people there before you didn't like it, but it does.
You know, there's good and bad. It's a cultural change.
(28:22):
You're not going to stop it, But I think you're
going to see a mat this. Look, this is why
Republic Grand Ranch is the fastest growing acreage community in
the country, I mean in the state. It's because people
want out of Harris County. They want out of and
the problem is, as more people move out, you lose
the people who vote against the corruption. So you're going
to be left with a bunch of self dealing, corruptocrats
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and nobody there to stop it because who wants to
Who wants to fight that bad And you got people
retiring now, and you've got more people who can work
from home. It's interesting
It's that time time time luck and load. So Michael
Arry Show is on the air. I've had joys.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Since the day that I was boss.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Voice carefully I told me right from wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
If I have to listen.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
No, I wouldn't be here the joyving and die with
the choices I've made.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I was tempted.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
By an early age.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I found I like drink.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh, and I never turned it down.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Every loved one, but I turned them all over on
loving and die with.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
The choices I've made. I've had choices.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Since the day that I was born. There revoice.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That told me right from long if I had listen.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
No, I wouldn't need hear to dieving, die with the choices.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'm interesting to me in the course of my life,
different things that happened that I notice. How we deal
with the concept of accountability and consequences and how they
are extolled or forgotten in common conversation and in popular culture.
(02:30):
Really interesting phenomenon to me, because we have a tendency
to ignore the idea. Do whatever you want, damn the consequences.
Do what makes you feel good, Do what gives you gratification.
(02:54):
I think gratification is a better word than happiness, because
happiness is a silly word, as it's used most.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Of the time. Nobody's walking around and we're happy. We're
all happy all the time, just happy. You'd get bored
being happy, you would. Jordan Peterson has really done some.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Important work on this subject. He's not the first, but
he's the first to take it to such a big audience.
And the idea that he has that he has really
popularized is that the pursuit of happiness per se is
a fool's errand you never actually achieve happiness. Many people
(03:43):
are watching pop culture and they think the Kardashians are happy,
or Diddy is happy, or Epstein is happy, or Lizzo
or whoever else, and then they're shocked to find out
that person isn't happy in the sense that they believe
(04:03):
they would be happy, this euphoria overcoming you at all
times in warm sensation, and believe it or not, even
though that person is their hero. That person is they
would sell off their kidney to get to go to
a concert, to just be part of a screaming, teeming
mass of people cheering that that person is singing the
(04:24):
song they've already heard a thousand times. But in the
same zip code as them. They're also delighted to learn
that those people are usually miserable because they have been
on a journey to the destination of happiness, and as
it turns out, happiness is not Neverland. So that makes
(04:48):
him feel good because I may not be happy, but
it turns out that person is supposed to be happy.
He's supposed to be happy, and he's not happy. So
that makes me feel better because I thought he was
just sitting or just being happy all the time. But
what Jordan Peterson has done I think groundbreaking work in
terms of taking it to the masses. As I say,
(05:09):
it's not the first to come up with this, I
understand this. The idea that happiness is not the pursuit
of man should not be the pursuit of man. It's
a throwaway terms. It's a simplistic term that has become
a catch all. In economics, we use the term utility.
(05:32):
It gives some people utility to do this or that.
Doesn't mean they're smiling necessarily. If you hate pedophiles and
you get to be the executioner of pedophiles, doesn't make
you happy to be the executioner, but it gives you
utility and Rick Warren in twenty twelve. I think it
(05:56):
was wrote The Purpose Driven Life, which I actually think
it was an important book at the time. The idea
of finding purpose in your life and what you do,
living purposefully, intentionally, knowing why you're here and what you're doing.
(06:19):
And I've come to learn that this is why some people,
I'm going to use that term, are very happy doing
a job when they don't need to work anymore.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The Walmart reader kind of went away. I loved the
Walmart reader. I loved the Walmart reader because so many
of the Walmart readers didn't need to work. They didn't
turn the money down because that's what they used to
buy a cup of coffee while they were there. They
arrived early, they stayed late, they stayed afterwards. They took
(06:54):
their penny off and hung around, or kept their penny on.
They loved to greet people. What a brilliant idea. You
take this cold, soulless warehouse full of junk that people
are coming into to grab, most of which they could
(07:16):
do without, and you put a human face on it,
a real human face, not a kid on a phone,
not not somebody disinterested, not somebody checking sports scores or
texting their buddies or taking Peter pics, a real human
being in comfortable shoes, welcoming people into your cold, soulless warehouse.
(07:46):
It was a brilliant a strike, a stroke of brilliance.
It was a brilliant move. I love everything about it.
But what it spoke to in me, which I don't
understand too many years later, was the idea of having purpose.
I have known so many people over the years who
cannot wait to retire, and the moment they retire, they
(08:09):
have the world out of the tail, and within a
couple of days they realize they've lost their purpose, even
if work was not their purpose, because they're pulling a paycheck,
punch in a clock. They they they've lost their routine,
and in that routine was comfort. You may not like
(08:31):
your job per se, the actual job, but we put
some we put some dressing on it. Right. We put
a writ on the way to your job. You may
stop and get a kalachi and you really like talking
to the people there at lunch. You might enjoy walking
across the street and talk on the way home. You
might Kamala Harris was just officially endorsed by IRS agency.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Believe it.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Michael Barry show, I'd rather not have that endorsement.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Across the river to die great. Rodney krou Down recorded
it back in eighteen or nineteen. Some of you will
have noticed he transposed the names. He said of the
two friends of his who were border guards who would
(09:23):
rot in jail, he called them compos and Ramen. It
was Ramos and Combian. Remember we spent a lot of
time talking about that case. Remember Border Patrol agent Brian
Terry I believe was his name. When Eric holders Fast
and Furious put a bunch of guns illegally on the streets.
(09:45):
The idea was they would go to Mexico and they
would kill a bunch of people those guns. They would
be involved in killings, and the American people would be
so outraged that we would call for gun control. That's
what these people are willing to do to get their way.
Collateral damage, human shields, they don't care. You can all
be sacrificed. They're going to get their way. That story,
(10:10):
those two Border patrol agents, that was Johnny Sutton was
the US attorney out somewhere in West Texas, El Paso,
maybe Laredo, I can't recall who prosecuted them. And Johnny
Sutton's father.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Was my.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Supervisor on a directed work project I did in law school.
Professor Sutton, he taught ethics and I liked his father
a lot. I didn't know Johnny. He was a Bush appointee,
but he had brought that case against Ramos and Compion
and I was very angry about that. And Johnny is
(10:55):
a very likable guy. I think he's in private practice now,
but I remember interviewing him during that time and I said, look,
I find you to be a very charming person on
a personal level, very accomplished attorney and now US attorney.
But I think I think there's a special place in
hell for prosecuting these two men the way you have.
(11:16):
I think it's wrong. And the Bushes did a lot
of this. This is and Romney would do it if
given the chance. And this is this idea of wanting
to show see I'm not I'm not like those maga people.
Look at how sensitive I am. You get this from
(11:40):
a lot of establishment Republicans that they desperately want to
show how kind and gentle they are so they will
turn against Greg Abbott. Does it all the time, all
the time, he will do such a thing. Remember Shelley Luther,
was that her name, Shelley Luthor, the one had the
hair salon. He allowed the crackdown on her hair salon
(12:07):
because that was part of the narrative and he didn't
want to seem like a person that was going against
the COVID narrative. Sterling, you're on the Michael Berry Show.
Go ahead, sir, Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm good, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Hey. So, my first job in nineteen eighty four, I
tell everybody I was an aqua flow engineer, but it
was just a big word for being a water boy
at a garden center that Forty years later, I'm still
involved in retail. Just so many lessons you get from
whether it's fast food or retail.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
That.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Have impacted my life and I'm now fixing to be
fifty four. From how to treat people, how you want
to be treated, how to treat associates, how not to
treat associates. And I think the one that stuck with
me was when I was a manager at Low's and
the CEO at the time, a great guy named Bob Tillman, said,
(13:06):
if you're taking care of your people, You're taking care
of the business, and that just resonated with me the
rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's a very Russell and Borrow thing to say. Were
you did? You say you were at garden Ridge Pottery?
Where did you work? I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Actually lived in West Texas. I was in Midland, Texas
at the time at a little place called the Casaverdi
Garden Center.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That would be my wife's dream job.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Oh it was a blast, I mean, and I turned
it into being a Texas Certified nursery professional. And even
now I'm in retail as a second job, just because
I enjoy it so much, interacting with the people and
the public.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And where are.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
You come back to help a project at home? I
am an assistant store manager for Ace hard I took.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
It home.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
To try to intimidate me. We were just talking about
a second job.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
No, I took you.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's a hardware which one.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Now Ace Hardware. It's in Lobby Texas love them eighty
second and slide. It's actually yep. It's a grocery store
on one side and it transitions into an Ace Hardware
on the other side, so you can go in and
get your nuts bolts, drills, paint, what not, and then
go get your steaks for dinner later on.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I love that, you know. I love the Ace Hardware model.
Over the years I've had Ace Hardware, uh you know
they they're each individually owned. I've had different folks want
to be show sponsored, and I'm told them, absolutely, I
love the Ace Hardware model.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The vice president in the history of our.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Christ the Michael Berry, we can't afford four more years
of this.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
The former CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch, a youth clothing retailer,
has been arrested in Florida today from a New York
investigation into child sex trafficking. There is a deviance of
(15:25):
sex with children that seems to go hand in hand
with many, not all, but with many celebrities and powerful
people in this country. I've given a lot of thought
to this. I've had a lot of conversations with law
(15:46):
enforcement who've investigated these things, and with mental health professionals
who studied them, and I've come to my own conclusion,
and that is that sex with children, for rich, powerful
(16:06):
people is the final frontier. It is for them, the
most debauched thing you can do. Over the years, studying
people I have found that many rock stars will develop
(16:30):
extreme perversions because they start with the I want to
be in a band to get chicks. And whether they
admit it or not, that's why everybody's in a band.
A lot of them admit it. That's why there wasn't
anything more to it than that they wanted chicks. They
knew chicks loved rock stars, and so then they started
(16:50):
getting chicks, and then they got married, and so then
there was the additional chicks to the marriage. That's a thrill.
And then there were multiple chicks, and then there were
random chicks, and then there was dehumanizing chicks, and maybe
then it turned. It turned to dudes and different things
(17:14):
that were illegal or weird or perverse or all of
that was like the heroine addict chasing the high chasing,
the naughty, chasing the new. The most repugnant thing you
can do is have sex with a child, an innocent child.
(17:38):
It is the most repugnant, and I think that is
the thrill. The thrill for these people is that it
is crossing the final frontier, the final boundary, doing that
which cannot be done, should not be done, will not
(17:59):
be done, and yet they can do it. That is
the feeling of being a god, and I believe that's
why they do it. You look at the names who've
been associated with these things today, it's the former CEO
of Abercrombie and Fitch. The entirety of Jeffrey Epstein was
(18:23):
not sex. Everybody on those planes could get all the
sex they wanted. They could get it free or they
could pay for it. It really didn't matter. And they
had is sex with children. That's what they want. That's
their elixir, that's their drug, that's the power, that is
(18:45):
the god complex. Well, there are powerful and devious people
who know that, so they create a very elaborate structure
whereby people who you are going to want to control
because they are very powerful, can be compromised if you
(19:09):
create an elaborate structure to allow them to indulge in
their worst fantasy. And that's what the Epstein story was about.
People think the Epstein story is a sex story.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
There's a lot of debauchery. There's sick and disgusting things
going on, even to children across the country. That's happening
in Sioux City, Iowa, or Kirbyville, Texas. The story there
is far more than the child's sex angle. That was
(19:48):
the hook to sell a nation down the river. That
was how Epstein's handlers, who I believe in the Chinese.
That's how you get control. And Epstein was very, very
useful to do that. Epstein never made money, never made money.
He didn't have the wealth. Do you understand the logistics
of moving this many people like this to a private island,
(20:13):
moving this many children there, hiding this, recording it so
that he could be used later. Kevin Lily is the
chairman of the Texas Alcohol Beverage Commission, and he and
I had coffee a couple of years ago, probably five
years ago, and he said, we're going after sex traffickers Michael,
(20:37):
and this is big. And he was so gung ho.
This is big. This sex trafficking is bigger than you
can imagine. We're going after him. And I thought, what
a weird well yess I have to do with TBC? Well,
big announcement today, nine we'll not today this week, nine shops,
nine bars closed. They were sex trafficking children. Kevin Lily
(20:58):
was at five of the nine bus He's gonna come
on show in a few days and talk about it.
It turns out a lot of these bars or fronts
for child's sex traffic. This is so much bigger than
people would ever believe.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
They have pledged to carry out the largest deportation, a
mass deportation with imagine what that would look like us fry.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Subcurity.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Big.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's a final line, as country music haspat there. It
really is so much deeper than you'd think. Dean Holloway
was Merl Hager's dear friend and bus driver. Story goes,
Dean was at the back of the bus and we'll
(21:49):
turn it back up.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Been working every day since I was twenty. I haven't
got a thing in the show for anything I've There's
folks who never were and they got Dave God let
(22:11):
Y think it's time you guys like the Hads some fun.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So the story goes they were at the recording studio
and Merle went out to the bus to check on
his buddy Dean. It was laid out on one of
the beds. Give me is your eyes. Yeah, that's tire
of this dirty old city. And Merl said, let's turned up.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And you're so calm, social secured.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
There's so called social fix it turn news and sat
and sorry. He started talking about it not like me
being in the big city. And Merle famously to hear
Merle tell the story, say well, where would.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
You like to be?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And he said, somewhere in the middle of damn Montana,
really just as far away from the big city as
he could get. And he dropped the damn But that's
where the somewhere in the middle of Montana goes. So
Merle Haggard tells the story that he knew he had
(23:27):
some so he rushed back in the studio the band
was packing up. He doesn't have to pack up. He's
Merl Haggard coming out to the bust, tell Dean to
turn it on, get the air conditioning run, and get
this thing comfortable. He ran back in, he said, guys,
put your gear back down. We got to do one
more song. Ah, because doing one song is not three minutes.
(23:53):
It's going to require rehearsals, and all this with no rehearsal.
This is Merle Haggard's story, not mind no rehearsal. In
one take they did that song and that's what you
heard right there. They recorded it. Merle Haggard being Merle Haggard. Now,
Willie wouldn't have done this and George Straight wouldn't have
(24:14):
done this, But Merle Haggard, did you fill out the
little form in a little form for writer. It was
Merle Haggard who had written it, and it was a
co writer, Dean Holloway. He gave Dean Holloway credit for
that that would end up in the course of Dean
Holloway's life to net him five hundred thousand dollars. It's
(24:39):
a pretty gracious act of Merle Haggard's part. We've been
going back and forth to Austin to see t Bone
and on the way stopping in the Greater Brnome area,
and unfortunately Houston is moving to Washington County. Houston is
(25:04):
moving lock Stock and Borough to all the way out
to Anderson, but all the way out to Hunt. But
in big numbers, Houston is moving to Waller County, Washington County,
all the way out to Lee County, Fayette County. It's incredible.
(25:29):
I'm not mad about it because I'm going to be
one of them, so I you know, that's my lot
in life. I can't really complain about them and then
be one. But I think there's several factors that play here,
and one of them is. People have had it with
the cultural rot in the city of Houston. They've had
(25:50):
it with the cultural rot, the trash cultures, the guns,
I mean, the gunfire, the random violence. People have had it.
They could tolerate the traffic, the noise and the congestion
and all that, but it's the randomness and the senselessness
(26:13):
of it. Your gutter hood rat thug will kill somebody
for no good reason, not even take their wallet, and
there's just something about that that it violates your sense
of order and decency. We only get one life. So
we were looking at a house out there who's on
(26:34):
a road called Dixie Road, and it's just off that
jug handle turn if you know where two ninety turns
and goes up, and then you can go up thirty
six from there and you turn right and go into Brenham.
And there was this little cabin. It was a perfect
little cabin and it was only five acres. My wife
(26:54):
likes acreage. She wants to have horses and cattle and
wear her boots out and go far stuff again. And
she misses those days because we had a place out
in the country for years and she wants that back.
When Crockett graduates, which is not too long. And we're
driving up on this place and we go around the
back to get there and we pull up on it
(27:16):
and as we're pulling up, she said, Oh my god,
this looks like Katie or sugar Land or pear Land.
This is a full blown master plan development. And it's
the first one I've seen like that out there. It's uh,
if you know where Dixie Road is, you enter it.
I think off Dixie Road. It's called uh, maybe Vintage.
(27:38):
They all have the same name, Vintage Legs or something,
but it's right off of kind of two ninety and
thirty six. But it was hundreds of homes and it
was just never thought I'd see that we had a
place out in car I mean twenty three years ago,
(27:59):
and it was every house out there had been out
there for a long time, nothing new. You didn't build
new development. And now it's coming and the locals hate it,
and it's understandable. Look, you don't get to stop people
from coming because your people came, and when your people came,
the people there before you didn't like it, but it does.
You know, there's good and bad. It's a cultural change.
(28:22):
You're not going to stop it, But I think you're
going to see a mat this. Look, this is why
Republic Grand Ranch is the fastest growing acreage community in
the country, I mean in the state. It's because people
want out of Harris County. They want out of and
the problem is, as more people move out, you lose
the people who vote against the corruption. So you're going
to be left with a bunch of self dealing, corruptocrats
(28:43):
and nobody there to stop it because who wants to
Who wants to fight that bad And you got people
retiring now, and you've got more people who can work
from home. It's interesting
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