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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Very Show is on the air. So our sister
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station in Houston, which is seven ninety on the dial.
The call letters are KBM. And even though it's a
sports station today, in years past it was an oldies
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station when oldies was a relatively popular format on the
radio and there was less focus in those days on
young listeners. Radio, like many things in American society, is
obsessed with selling to young people. Because ad agencies are
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obsessed with selling to young people doesn't bother me one bit,
because we don't dominate in young people. We dominate in
forty plus. We do okay. At twenty five plus, we
get stronger. At thirty five plus, we get much stronger
at forty plus, and at fifty plus we kill it.
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But the ad agencies, which are not my friends and
I am certainly not theirs. The ad agencies are comprised
of twenty three year old girls that just graduated Daddy
paid their way through A and M or ut and
they do the ad buy for companies, and they deal
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with a sales rep within the radio companies, and they
ask for the numbers of people, say eighteen to thirty
four or at most twenty five or fifty four, and
that's what they build their ad buy around. How many
people listen to that. It's completely qualitative, quantitative how many
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people listen. But we don't kill that in that demographic.
Never have, never will not our message. By the way,
those people don't care about the things we're talking about.
Yet most of them are still on daddy's payroll. They're unmarried,
they're going out there, you know the drill, they're early
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in their careers. The ad agencies are largely staffed by
people in that demographic, and that's what they buy. But
for me, as you age, you become more interesting, and
that is that's why if you look at who our
show sponsors are, our show sponsors are not Budweiser or
bud Light Beer. They're not the things that you sell to,
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you know, twenty four year olds. They're companies that sell
goods and services to people as they get older and
they own a home and they're beginning to age, and
they're beginning to invest or aggressively invest and travel and
that sort of thing. And that's always been kind of
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the spot we're in. So anyway, when oldies was was hot,
it was still considered a viable format. You almost don't
hear it on the news anymore. But it's also because
if you loved oldies, I loved I'm such a goof.
I love the oldies when I was in high school,
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and the oldies when I was in high school was
the sixties. And mind you, this was mid eighties, fifties, sixties.
The Cadillacs singing speed Oh for instance, or Dean Martin
for that matter. Well, that format largely went away, but
as did the multiple news formats. There just wasn't the
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market for news on the radio anymore. Everything is always changing.
We don't have to be angry about it. I know
people get angry, but they don't have to. It's the reality.
There are news stars that are going to come up
with each generation. But there was a station called k
n u z K News and they had a guy
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who was a star for them for twenty five years
named Paul Berlin. Some of you know him. Was originally
from Memphis. He came to Houston when he was nineteen
years old. Well, Paul had spent all these years at
k News and then he had gone over to KBME,
which was best Music Ever, which was oldies, long before
it became a sports stations. He'd spent some time. Toward
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the end, Dan Patrick brought him over to KSV. We
had him come and do a show with us and
sit in live, and it was so much fun. I
had Johnny Nash call in, I had Roy Head call in.
I had all these guys that he had covered and
been friends with back in the day. It was kind
of an old home week, and it was so much
fun for me to just get to kind of conduct
as this symphony of awesomeness was going on, and so
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many of you, some of you were listening back then anyway.
So Paul Berlin came to k News in nineteen fifty
at nineteen years old boy yesterday talking about Sheriff Fryar.
I got a number of emails and I forwarded every
single one of them to her and I will continue
to afford them to her. And I got an email
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from a fellow who'll occasionally email me, and he and
before him, his father were longtime radio folks in Houston.
He's moved away, but he'll send me emails of reminiscing,
and he says, Zar, I want to thank you for
telling the Sheriff Friar reason for being gone for mornings.
I was very impressed the way you told the story.
I worked all over Houston radio from nineteen sixty five
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to nineteen ninety seven. I had the chance to meet
Sheriff several times over the years, and she was always
very nice. Sad that she's gone from k TRH. She
is loved and respected by many. Please let her know that.
Back in nineteen sixty one, I used to visit k
News Radio and Dave Ward was the night time seven
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pm to midnight newsman and would let me in the
station to learn and observe the operation. Dave was very
kind to me. I've attached a rare copy of Dave
Ward during doing K News Radio news. This is what
I planned to send Sheriff, but I never did. If
you like, please forward to her and I have, but
I'll bet you she's never heard it. Nineteen sixty one,
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I was eleven years old. Merry Christmas to you and
your family. So here's Dave Ward, nineteen sixty one, nighttime
newsman on k News Radio.
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Than that does my heart good, partly because it takes
me back to a time I never actually even experienced,
but I feel like I have immersed myself in it.
And my mother was such a good storyteller and so
immersive in her stories of you know, when she was
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in the junior or senior year of her high school,
maybe junior or or high school. And the news came
over the speakers that John F. Kennedy had died, and
they wheeled in a television for everybody to see it.
So I feel like I was there. I think a
good storyteller can take you back to the time.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Anyway, Tracy Bird, and I tipped my hand to the
keeper the storm.
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And the.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Extra credit. If you know that the uncredited background to
the Righteous Brothers here is keep listening. Oh, give you
a hint. It's a woman.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
There's a whole welcome look in your fies.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
What a bitch for you there, You're starting to the
size I do? It makes me just you ouy cofd
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you go?
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Whoa you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Share?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
If your answer was Bobby Hatfield? No, Bobby Hatfield was
one half of the Righteous Brothers. Of course he was
credited inasmuch as people knew who the Righteous Brothers actually were.
Get oh, go back, go back, now, go back. That
This is white man manna from heaven right.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Here, baby, baby, I'll get down on my knees for you.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
It's kind of a Conway rattle of the voice.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
If you would all let me like you used to do.
We hadn't know.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
The uncredited background singer is share and know that one?
Did you? Speaking of Bill Medley and the Righteous Brothers,
I watched the documentary the other day on the song
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The Time of My Life from Dirty Dancing, and you know,
dudes aren't supposed to like that. It's a chick flick, right,
But chicks love that song, I mean love it. And
I love Patrick Swayzee. I don't care who knows that.
I don't think I would love him as much if
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he wasn't from Houston, but he's one of those guys.
I'm fifty three. If I make it twenty years, I'll
be happy. If I don't worry, I had a good life.
I won't feel like I got cheated if I'm not
here tomorrow. You don't have to go. Oh no, I've
done pretty much all I'm ever gonna do. I'm just
gonna do what I'm doing a bunch more times. But
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one of my goals in life, and I've already got
crossways with Whipmyer, so I probably probably had to wait
till the next mayor. One of my goals in life
is there's about five people in this town there's about
five people that I would like to get Rhodes named for.
You might not know this, but when I was mayor
pro tim, I got mylo Hamilton Way named running right
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beside the Right beside Minute made Part. There are about
five people at a minimum I would like to have
Rhodes named for that there would be no criticism of
George Foreman being one of them, bum Phillips being one
of them. And it's not like they're, you know, somebody
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all that right wing Michael Berry. And one of them
is Patrick Swayze. This city should honor him. You talk
about a multi tool player. This guy could sing, Yes,
he could sing. He could dance lights out. I mean,
you think of the If I asked you who are
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the great dancers in film, you'd say, well, Borishnikoff, because
they brought Barishnikoff in, but you were already told he
was a great dancer, and he did these movies with
Gregory Hines so they could showcase this phenomenal Russian dancer.
But who else as a dancer Tommy Toons. I mean, honestly,
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who else do you think of as a fretistaire? Okay?
Who else? Ginger Roger's a woman. What other man do
you think of John Travolta. Okay, but John Travolta as
an actor, not as a pure dancer. I don't know
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if Patrick. I think her name is Barbara. I'm not positive.
I don't know if his mother is still alive, but
this should be done while she's still alive. If she's
still alive, I don't know if she is. He died
too young. Anyway, He could dance, he could sing, he
could ride horses, he could whoop ass. Have you seen Roadhouse?
He could be a cooler at a at a John Travolts.
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I mean, he's the whole package. Man got the hair
and Houston Boy. I love the story and then the
ghost and the whole deal. Anyway, So the documentary was
about the song the Time of My Life, and apparently
that was the song that ushered in the era of
the great closing song to a movie, and then everybody
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had to do it after that. So they're trying to
get Bill Medley to to he's in New York, they're
trying to get him to fly out to California to
do to sing this song, and he said, nope, my wife,
I missed the birth of my last child, my first child,
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and I promised my wife I would not miss the
birth of my second child, and he said, I cannot
do it. And they said, man, this is going to
be big. What's this movie. Nobody's gonna watch that movie
because we always look at things afterwards and assume that
it was always going to be great. That's never the case.
They never know great things are gonna be great, and
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it turns out to be great, and everybody go, oh,
I knew all along, No you didn't. There's people that
turned down roles in that because it was gonna be
a nothing movie. It did not have a star studded cast.
Jennifer Gray was not a major star at the time.
And by the way, she never should have had plastic
surgery on her nose or jacked up big ol' honkin
nose was great anyway. So they're begging Bill Medley to
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do that song and he won't and they keep calling him,
and he said the director said I would call him
once a week, and they cut to Bill Medley saying
it wasn't once a week. He called every day every day,
and finally one day he called and he said, yep,
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she had the baby, and he said, look, I don't
really want to do this song. I don't you know,
I'm not a soundtrack guy. I don't think it's gonna
And he said, well, we got Jennifer Warrens to agree
to do the duet with you, and he loved Jennifer
Warrens and he said, really, mm hmm, I'm in flies out.
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They do the song. You can't hear that song and
not think of the movie. But more importantly, you can't
think of the movie which became a blockbuster without think
singing without listening to that song. Ramon, do you have
Eddie on speed Doll or Sylvia. He's in Dallas. Just
let him know we're gonna play a chick flick theme
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song movie in its entirety to begin the next segment.
We don't normally do that because he doesn't like the
music to go too long, but I think we should
out of honor of Bill Medley and Jennifer Warrens and
what that song represented, which was a trend in movies
that carried on from then on. Which was the big
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strong song to end the movie, to send you out
of the theater, and the credit read with this overwhelming
feeling and it's easy to take for granted today that
that's what happened, but that was not the trend before
that moment. I do love the Righteous Brothers. I absolutely
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love that sound. What are you looking at? Well, if
it's Harry from Nashville, he's a drummer. He was a
Oh by the way, Jim Mudd said that he was
in Port O'Connor last weekend and he bought his bait
from Froggies Bacim and it was that woman who took
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care of him the Michael Bay Show. Oh Live Shrimp.
He's please clap passion. There's any goodness, guys, listen, there's
no shame as a dude to tipping your hat to
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another man, whether that's John Wayne, the Marlborough Man, Hulk Hogan.
When Patrick sways, he does that little thing where I
can't even balance to do it where he puts his
shoulders down low like he's about to like it's a
blitz package and he's about to shoot the gap and
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he sways back to back and forth, and he's coming
to her and her dad, who is the guy that
plays her dad. Let me tell you something, that is
the unsung hero of that movie. He's in he's in
something I can't remember. He's serious. He plays the candle
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and beauty and the beast. God, that's not what I'm in.
He plays in something like a Father's Nose, best kind
of TV show from the fifties or sixties. When Patrick
swayzey comes at her and he's all squatted down but
moving forward like, I've never tried that move, because that's
not really, that's not in my brand, if you know
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what I mean. Jerry Warbock, huh, Jerry Orbach. Look up
his IMDb and see what else he's in. But let
me finish this description. When Patrick Swayze starts in on
her and he leans down, his shoulders go low, and
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he's that's a move. I can't tell you how hard
that is because I've never tried it and never would.
But I the sense that ninety nine percent of us
couldn't do that, and I've never seen it before, right,
And it's just so perfect. And you know he choreographed
that himself. You know that, there's no doubt he choreographed
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that himself. Nobody, you know, no flamboyant dude told him
to do this. They were like, all right, here's the deal.
Patrick here's your mark right here. You're gonna be right there,
and Jennifer is gonna be down here. And we got
this song working with you know, Bill Medley from The
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Righteous Brothers and Jennifer Warren's gonna do it. But but whatever,
whether that song comes together or not, this is the
uplifting crescendo moment. You're coming at her and we're gonna
do this thing, and it's gonna nail it. And this
you know this, this might make the movie. Heck, people
might pay attention to this movie. All right, So we
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got the song here it is, give it a god,
what do you think I would have walked stiff lee
and I mean, like, we got to get a stand
in for this pool. But he comes, I mean he
takes this position catlike and he's come. Nobody. You tell
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me another actor that could pull that off. I'm serious,
tell me another actor that could pull that scene off
the way he did. And you can't help yourself. I
don't care. As a dude, I will tell you that's
a moment now what I'm thinking and what everybody else
is thinking. Because I thought Jennifer Gray was whoo. I
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was like, I don't know why her dad smiling so
much because it's about to be own like Donkey Kong. Yes, indeed,
that's a scene right there, and that's all Patrick Swayze.
That is all Patrick Swayze. Tom writes hearing that caller
from the bait shop earlier from Froggies down in Port
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O'Connor talking about how she still comes across kids who
are raised properly when they're homeschooled, gives me hope for
the future and reminds me of my all time favorite
Bible verse. You fathers and you mothers, be good to
one another. Please try to raise your children right. Don't
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let the darkness take them, don't make them feel forsaken,
just lead them safely to the light. Shaver nine two
through seven. Now, that's briefly right there. Alex van Halen,
I have to play this for Jim Mudd. I don't
want to, but he's our creative director, and ever so
often he asked for something. We were talking about uncredited,
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uncredited backup singers and things like that, and the fact
that Eddie van Halen Quincy Jones called Eddie van Halen
in to play on Michael Jackson's beat It and uh,
Jim says. Alex van Halen says that Eddie playing on
Michael Jackson's beat It played a big part in David
lee Roth leaving the band. Here's Eddie van Halen telling
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the story on Piers Morgan about how he ended up
playing on Michael Jackson's beat It.
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You play a big part in my life. My early
life is when I was nineteen, Jump came out. It
was a huge, huge hit, wasn't it one of those things?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
He said?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
It was Roes.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
That's funny because at the time.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I had played unbat it on Michael Jackson's record and
his album went to number one, and our album was
number two, our singles number one, his singles number two.
Then he needed a Pepsi commercial, burned his hair and
he stayed at number one. Face sel face man to
this day, you know, the guys in the band still
blame me.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
For that hour that album. Not knowing the number one
your fault? Is it true?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
You didn't get paid to be on the Jackson It
is favor, you know. So Michael Jackson rings up and says,
any you're the best guitaris in the world. Can you
play on my some beats it? It's a smash hit
around the world. Well, can you get zero Dulle's Well, I.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Didn't ask for anything. It was about twenty minutes out
of my life. Quincy had called me up and asked
me if I wanted to do it, and honest got truth.
The band's policy was, you know, we don't do things
outside of the band at the time, and everybody's out
of town, so no one asked. And I swear to God,
I figured, who's going to know if that's man? This
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Black Kids record?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So true though. Harold ju Churchhill of our favorite downtown
Chinese restaurant, our favorite Chinese restaurant in town, reminded me
the dad from Dirty Dancing was from Law and Order?
Was that before or after Dirty Dancing? It was after? Right? Yeah?
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So okay, so maybe I first was introduced to him.
It feels like it feels like he was something kind
of to Kill a Mockingbird era or you know, Father
Knows Best, or Dick Tracy or Mary Tyler Moore. Feels
like he was something from that air it's the Michael
Barry show. That is Jerry or Back or Bach or Back.
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I don't know. As Lumire the Candlestick, I assume that's
how you pronounce it l U M I E R E.
You don't know if that's how it's pronounced. Okay. The
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Jerry Orback had quite the career. I did not know
what a Broadway career he had. He was an accomplished
Broadway actor. But the movie where I think I'm thinking
of him is The Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight, and
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he was a star of that, and he has a
cigarette dangling from his mouth the entire time. And once
you see Rachel sent me that. Once you see a
scene of him in that, you ah, that's where I've
seen him. He's just he's just older than he was
right there. That's it. Apparently Patsy Swayzee was her name,
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has passed away. Yeah, many times I hear from listeners
who will say, hey, I tried to use your sponsor,
but I guess you're too good at what you do
because they couldn't get to me for six months because
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they're busy. Well that's the reason for the partnership. They're
busy with fellow listeners. If you will email me, if
I can possibly get that person to you faster because
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in law connection. I'm not saying you're gonna get it free,
not even saying you're gonna get a discount. But listen,
put yourself in the shoes of anybody else. Let's say
you own the dairy queen. This is my dreamer. Let's
say you own a dairy queen, but you work at
the drive through at the dairy queen, your own dairy queen,
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because you don't quality control, and you're busy that day
and you know, you're just trying to get to trying
to get everything in there get you don't even have
time to turn the blizzard upside down to prove it.
And I don't know why they're still doing that. We
got it, okay, the blizzard, Yes, you don't. You're gonna
end up with carpal tunnel out of that. Remember Chris
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Baker had carpal tunnel. Yeah, yeah, he had. He showed
me his hand after he had carpal tunnel, and it
looked like he had been in a firefight. I don't.
I mean they he had these. His hand was raised
up with that. I mean it was bad. Do you
remember for a while there people would use those crooked
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keyboards because that was supposed to help you with carpal tunnel.
You had that, but you don't have it. So it's
kind of one of those funny things that one day
everybody goes, we're not going to use that crooked keyboard anymore, okay,
and we're just not going to discuss it anymore. Well
that's there wasn't a memo that came out, but is hey,
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you're gonna learn to type on this crooked keyboard. I
never did, because that's gonna save you from carpal tunnel.
So do you remember what was the point where you go,
I'll screw it. I'll just go back to rectorkboard, less space.
It took up too much space. But did you just
decide at that point, I don't care if I get
carpal tunnel, it's less space. There's certain things, so remember
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there was the carbon capture on the on the the
gas pump. You could you had to sit there and
be inconvenienced at the gas pump and hold the damn
thing because you couldn't clip it even though they had
the trigger that would pop it off and cause it
to close again. Another all of that Greeny Winnie. Crap
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at that's what you got to understand. One hundred percent
of it is crap. And then somewhere along the way
and this never happened, they sunseted that, and then all
of a sudden, you go, and you go, I guess
I'll sit here and risk getting mugged for the next
ten minutes as I fell up, and you pull it up,
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and then there was, oh, what do I see here?
A little three pun prong clamp. Well, they must have
forgot to put it on there. And then you clamped
it and you let it go and it held, and
you waited and you waited, and you got on your
phone and you could put that time to good use,
and nobody ever announced. Hey, remember that whole thing. It
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was stupid. Hey, Remember how the ozone had a big
hole and y'all were down in there and you were
gonna get killed because the sun was going to come
in and burn you up. Just went away. Acid Rain's
gonna kill I remember, as in middle school, we'd have
papers we had to write about acid rains gonna kill
us all. And we didn't know back then that the
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news lied. We just figured the news didn't matter because
we were never gonna live long enough for any of
that to But we didn't know they were just making stuff.
We didn't know there were people sitting in New York
and China scheme and Brussels scheming for how to reduce
America's strength in the world and make money off of
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selling you crappy products, and that in order to do that,
they had to have kids on anxiety meds for fear
of being hit with acid rain or the ozone or
carbon capture or fill in the blanks. And there are
still people in this country old enough to know better
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who still don't want to believe that happened because to
do so would in some way make them feel bad
about themselves. So they feel better if they think, well,
because they don't. This is your naive neighbor. It's my theory,
the naive neighbor. I'm copyrighting that because it's brilliant when
you stop and think about it. The problems in this country,
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if I may say so myself, the naive neighbor problem.
We like to think it's the evil people. But if
the evil people could never take root, the evil people
outsource what they do to your naive neighbor, I will
never ever forgive nor forget the people who behaved irrationally.
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I told someone a week ago, I said, remember when,
and I'm not going to tell you what it was,
because it's somebody that people might figure out who it was.
You did this, this and this, and it cost all
these problems within the circle that I run in because
of because I refuse to be remember that, because I
refuse to be vaccinated. And that person said, well, you
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can't blame me. I was scared. I wasn't scared. Why
were you scared? But do you if you get a
knock at the door, do you shoot through the door
because it might be a bad guy on the other
side because crime is up. That's irrational too. Any person
who behaved irrationally during COVID will behave irrationally again. They've
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got the gene. They're weak. That's your naive neighbor. They
believe the wrong people. They don't trust their heart, they
don't love their neighbor enough to say, I don't care
what Fauci says. You see that they're looking to get
a pardon for Fauci. That's how you know they're looking
to get a pardon for Adam Schiff. That they are
scared the death of Trump right now, and nothing makes
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me happier