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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, lock and load. So Michael
Berry Show is on the air. My favorite new song

(00:25):
I've heard in the last five years. Christ I don't
listen to.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
The musical.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
When it comes to bad luck, I got perfect time
in all the Stars just line, Mad Trouble. We're old friends.
We understand the other fine because it's hard love and

(00:57):
circumstances that bribe me him ride, don't go, I might.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Fail.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
One of my charming attributes is that when people suggest
I listen to new music, I call him an idiot
and refuse. It's real charming. You'd love to be my friend.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
So me.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
That song right there is hard luck and circumstances in
the artist's Charlie Crockett. So my buddy Cody Johnson, not
the owner of garage Door Doctor dot Biz, because he's
also Cody Johnson, and not the singer Cody Johnson who
has the Wrangler line, who once did a free show

(01:50):
for me at the House of Blues. I will forever
be thankful for that. Neither of those two Cody Johnson's.
But there's I have three Cody Johnson friends. This is
true story. I mean, it's not so shocking because there's
a certain generation of white dudes that live in Texas
that they're named Josh, Justin or Cody just the way

(02:12):
it is, and Johnson's a pretty common name, so it's
not shocking, but that I would have three friends that
I regularly text with named Cody Johnson is weird. So
sometimes if I'm sitting somewhere and I get a text
and says Cody Johnson, people go, oh, I love his music, Well,
it's not that Cody Johnson. And then I feel bad

(02:32):
because I'll say, you know, if we're getting a few
guys together to drink bourbon and smoke cigars, I'll go
and who else going to be here? Which I hate
that question? Why does that matter? But anyway, I'll say, well,
it's going to be so and so and so and
so on Cody Johnson. Oh I can't, well, I loved
I love Well, it's not that Cody Johnson. And then
I feel like it's kind of a bummer because my
other two Cody Johnson friends that are coming people are

(02:55):
sort of like, oh, nice, and mein's you Cody Johnson?
And I thought you were Cody Johnson. Cody Johnson. Anyway,
so my friend Cody Johnson is actually the most interesting
of the three to know because Cody Johnson, the garage
door guy, can fix your garage door and he's really
good at it. Cody Johnson the singer is always on tour,
so you know you're not gonna hang out very often.

(03:16):
But he's pretty what he could probably fix a garage door.
He's a cowboys cowboy. I will tell you this. Cody
Johnson the singer songwriter is like George Strait, a real cowboy,
like a legitimate rodeo participant cowboy. He's not just one
of even tightler talk like that at taw Hayden fails

(03:37):
from founds. He's legit a cowboy. He's out riding the
horse right now, guarantee you anyway. So the third Cody Johnson,
bless his heart, he is the most interesting of the three.
His family owns the largest ranch in Fort Benne County.
It's like, uh, what is it? Eighty eight billion trillion acres?
I mean it's I once went out there. First time

(04:02):
Crockett went out there with me. I said, uh, we're
going to visit Uncle Cody, and you're going to go
out there, and he's we're going to bait, the alligator trap,
and you know you're gonna see a bunch of cool
stuff on this ranch. It really is. It is literally
the largest ranch in Fortman County. And it's I don't
know how many hundred thousand eight or however, I don't
want to get the number wrong. It's massive. It's bigger

(04:25):
than county, some entire counties. We start when we enter
the edge of the property. As we're driving along the highway,
I said, that's where the rant, their family ranch begins.
And it's thirty minutes later, and he goes, I thought
we were there already. No, it's it's big. It's a big,
big ranch anyway, So years ago, I mean, I don't know,

(04:46):
this must be five, six, seven years ago. He said, Hey,
you like Charlie Crockett. No, why not, because I don't
know anything about him. Oh you got to listen. No,
I've got so much, so many deep cuts of Jim
ed Brown and Verne Gosden that I haven't even gotten
to yet. That last thing I need to do is

(05:07):
mess with anything new. There's nothing new under the sun
that I need to Got it, got it, got it?
So he would just keep trying, and I wouldn't and
trying and I wouldn't, and it just kept coming up
that people would say, may you heard Charlie Crockett. No,
I don't like anything new, but he's not new, that's
just it. So finally I give in and I start

(05:28):
listening to his music and I love it right, And
he played over at Goods Armadilla Palace. He did this
deal to and it was a great PR campaign, and
the deal was the tickets are too expensive, and so
he did this what are you doing? Are you?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
No, I want you to go back and sit down.
I might need you to push a button or hit
a dinger or something. So anyway, he did this tour,
the ten dollars tour, and every ticket was ten dollars,
which meant the venue lost their ass. I think LEVI
lost like fifteen grand on this deal. But he did
it as a you know, you do it because you

(06:10):
want people to come to your venue, but you never
want to lose money on an event. But the venue
is all bitched about it, but the fans loved it.
A ten dollars ticket, wow, they were all general admission.
So I start reading about Charlie Crockett. Well, if you
look at him, you think he's black. But I knew
he was a descendant of Davy Crockett, the literal direct
line descendant of Davy Crockett, And so I thought, how's

(06:33):
a black guy. Oh, Davy got the jungle fever? Okay,
all right, yeah, all right. So I see an interview
with him where he's asked if he's black, and he says, no,
I'm white. And they said, but you have black lineage,
and he said, yeah, but I have more white than black.

(06:56):
I see myself as white, but I don't know that
it matters. And they were trying to make him black
because it's a better story. Charlie pride if he's a
black Darius Rucker, a black guy singing country music. And
he said, no, I don't. I'm just a person. But
what I found fascinating, and this really caught my attention,

(07:20):
is it would help his career if he's black, because
every white guy would love to go I like old
Charlie Crockett, you know, because oh I like the black guy.
They got enough white guys already. But he chose not
to take that course, and that really made me admire him.
He also lived out of his truck for years, which
you know, that's kind of real street cred. So I
get a message from the Rodeo. They used to sponsor

(07:43):
my show. They don't sponsor us anymore. No hard feelings,
you know. I'm obviously butt heart over it for whatever reason.
Prob Well, anyway, I do like I really like the
guy who's the head of Rodeo right now. I like
him a lot, and I liked executive committee. I think
the marketing committee is probably you know, women in their

(08:04):
early twenties who don't know who I am. Their dad
listens to us, so they don't realize how you know
our listeners. But I get a message from the Rodeo, Hello,
would you be willing to interview Charlie Crockett? He's got
a show come well, yeah, just to piss off all
my friends. Yes, so we're gonna talk to Charlie Crockett,
but first we're gonna talk to you. It calls coming up.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Form the.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Wats up?

Speaker 5 (08:32):
It send anybody go into the same zone, misoona. Then
it passes out as long as I well, if.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I'm never.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm gonna let that play. Let's just take a moment
and contemplate my favorite supergroup of all time. Well, I
don't know you got highwaymen, but imagine you got Flo
n s Freddie Fender, My memory ain't what it used

(09:14):
to be, Doug song and uh Algi Myers. Yeah, so Flacco, Freddy,
Doug som augimeris you got four legit legends under one roof.

(09:38):
I mean, you got guys that can play con junto
Northanio classic country.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Rock.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
You ever wonder what it would be like.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
To sit.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
In the presence of police guys? All right, guy, this
was a crazy idea. We're gonna do it. We've gotta
be good now, all right, what do you throw something out?
Let's let's let's just try to let's try to start
a song here. What do y'all think are the traveling
Whilbery's What do you do? I mean, how weird would
how weird would you? How small would you feel in

(10:26):
that room?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
I mean you just.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
The highwaymen, Well, where do you stand? Who's on the end,
who's in the middle. All right, we're gonna do the highwayman.
What we're gonna do is have each one of you
and you know they're all looking at each other, going,
you're not gonna let Chris have a part on it.
You're not gonna let Chris singe, are you? Oh dear god,

(10:56):
it's gonna be weird.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
All right, to the phone.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Lines we go. By the way, our friend Holmes Williams,
an expert on all things Texas history, Texas women, Texas booze.
Of course, hunting. What do I always call him? And
he gets he's a professional hunter? Is that the term?

(11:20):
He gets very upset if I don't use the right term.
I always say he's a hunting guide or something whatever
comes natural to me, and he gets anged. A fresh
professional hunter. I don't know how the dude makes a living,
but he lives well. I know he gets paid a
lot of money. And all he's ever doing is hanging
out with rich people, putting them on some exotic thing
and telling them, all right, when I tell you to

(11:41):
pull the trigger. I think he cites the whole thing in,
gets it all set up, and they pull it and
they take a picture of them, and you know, some
four thousand pounds beasts, like they did the work. They
scared it up. Anyway, he says, he sent me a
message and said, it's not just how fast they built it,
it's how they built it. Bunch of y'all apparently know

(12:02):
the story, Susan writes, Zar, it's the Hilton Plasio del Rio.
It's what we were talking about earlier. They built it
using helicopters to lower individual prefab units into the structure.
That was nineteen sixty eight. It's almost sixty years ago.
We couldn't do that today. Do you realize that in
nineteen sixty eight they built prefab units, hooked them to

(12:22):
a helicopter, brought them and placed them in place. In fact,
Holmes had a great description of that process. He said,
imagine a massive game of Tetris. Pretty well, pretty good description,
Sassy Rights. I believe it's a Hilton. It was built
by HB. Zachary for the sixty eight World's Fair. Modules

(12:44):
were built off site and then lifted into place to
quickly build the hotel. I guarantee you we couldn't do
that today. Our DEI government, our DEI companies, we could
not do that today, Sarah Wrights, Zar, have you been
to nine a hn these lecture slash tour of Texas
history at Tastes of Texas? I went recently with a
group of friends and it was so interesting and I

(13:07):
had forgotten that the original doors to the Alamo Chapel
are right inside the entrance to Taste of Texas. You know, folks,
when you're having a bad day, make yourself a list
of things. When you're having a me day where you're
not going to go to work because you just your
headspace is not there. Your dog died, your best friend died,

(13:31):
have yourself a list of things you can do that
will put you in a good mood. There's so many
good things happening around and most of it nobody knows
about because it's not marketed. How could it be? I mean,
you got a restaurant here. Ed and nine A Hindi
are are treasures, absolute treasures. I mean the best thing

(13:52):
I can say about Ed and nine A Hindi in
addition their pro life movement, they're all the things. They
great restaurant tours. Is it my buddy Matt Brice opens
a restaurant a hop skipping a jump down from them
that is also a steakhouse? And do they worry about it?

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Know?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
They mentor him, they help him, They send people there,
They themselves go there. Other than Russell Lebara and Ed
Hindy in a handful of. But you don't see people
take that approach to life. You just don't. All right,
let's go to Joe Lopez. He wanted me to know
his last name was Lopez. Otherwise he wouldn't tell you.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
He'd just be Joe.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
What you got one man?

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Hi, Michael, this is Joe Lopez cay Man. I'm from
McCallen and growing up, you know the Texas history. I'm
fifty one. I would almost send in the age Texas
sisty was taught in junior highs and stuff. So you
just typical junior high kid.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Whatever.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
But you notice that all the schools in you where
we live were named after famous people from Texas history,
but you don't appreciate it. I get to college and
as a Mexican American and you're then if you hang
out with the wrong crowd, you're taught to hate. You know,
how Texas was stolen and all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
So whatever.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
So I moved to Boston. I get my first job.
I moved to Boston. All these Bostonians are asking me
all these things about Texas c hissty. I had no
idea what they were talking about, and I'm like, wow,
Like these guys know this stuff, and I don't I
go stupid. I moved to San Diego, same thing. I
moved to Canada, same thing. I'm like, So I moved
back to Texas and here I am in Houston now

(15:21):
and my kid comes up to me in like two
years ago. He's in fifth grader. Now he goes, Dad,
I want this for Christmas, a bloody arm flag. I'm like,
what what are you talking about? What is this bloody
arm TEA like, you're not you know, you can't.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Wear this to school.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
He falls in love with Texas sister and his name
is Johnny Cash. So I'm like, you know what, dude, Cash,
you know what, I'm going to research this. I talked
to some guys that I work with and they're like, dude,
you know you got to take them to Goliad, go
to Gonzalez. So we do this whole tour this past summer, Goliad, Gonzalez,
segein San Antonio, of course, the Alamo, all the all

(15:55):
the churches, all that stuff, and we end up handing
it with Santana where some kind of got captured and
that was the best thing in the world to see
my son.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I appreciate it, like I didn't.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Great called Jolophus.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
The Michael Berry.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Show, and.

Speaker 8 (16:18):
And Lauren, don't just sit over here singing. Why don't
you get up at once a while and serve somebody
as these ladies do. They want a Coca cola or something,
but don't get in that good stuff. Don't let him
in that cannet over yonderm how y'all doing. Listen, we're
gonna sing some moo Sama's girls. Put y'all here in
as then.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Damn no, you ain't gonna made me sing this here.
I ain't saying that's in school.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
Shut up, that's how.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Don't know what the words to it is? Don't you
so ignorant?

Speaker 8 (16:41):
This is the state song about the state.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Stupid.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
Yeah, I got sang it over.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Hitches Hamker Texas IBA Texas is always be real nice
Texas Iba Texas Coffee Scumbo and rise.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Bow my pone author.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
And stay all you kill Si.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I don't know your words.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Yeah, real, real, real real nice, go head on TASiS,
you make an out days here lasting rests cheap and
until me and night you can stop and by you
up here send meeting simp the size.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Or exposed commercialized and money.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
I'm sure trying Regan.

Speaker 7 (17:56):
Shell have to love.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Show.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I got an email from Robert Rees, who there's two
guys that sell our show more than anybody. There's a
lot of people that sell our show. Two guys that
sell it the most, and it's it's Grant and Robert Rees.
And he sent an email that said, hey spoke to

(18:21):
the owner of this company's called Arched Cabins. Spoke to
the you think of the tiny houses, you know that's
the big movement now, the tiny houses. Well, listen, I'm
not a believer in government building tiny houses. I'm not
a believer in I'm not one of these people that
because it's a lot of white liberals get into these
tiny houses. But I happen to like them. I think
they're cool. And I like the idea because we've owned

(18:44):
property in Carmeene and Welder. I like the idea of,
you know, buying the Citadel on two ninety. They just
dropped the price on it remote and it's on forty
eight acres.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
Maybe it's sixty eight acres.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I think it's forty eight acres. And it would ruin
the esthetic, but it would be so cool to put
a bunch of these little, tiny houses out there. So
I've always thought the tiny houses were cool. There's a
place outside of Gettings that does them. And you know,
if just to have a guest cottage, you know, not
your main house, to have a guest cotage that people

(19:21):
come and stay at night or even two and they
got their room and it just be perfect. So anyway,
Robert re sends me an email. So Darren Whittaker was
Uncle Jerry's director of sales for Liquid Assets, and he
was in a terrible fire and it burned him real
badly and he survived. It's amazing. Nobody else would have survived.

(19:46):
But everybody keeps up with Everybody loves Darren Whittaker. And
he said he put Robert onto this particular potential show sponsor.
He says, I know Michael loves these little houses and
it's called arched cabins. So Robert said, hey, what do
you think about this? I talked to the owner. He

(20:06):
wants to be a show sponsor. It's the people who
buy these things are retired folks with weekend ranches, Deer
Lisa's lake properties, beach property, and they want to place
on their second property where guests can come and stay
and they are amazing. It's a kit so you could have,

(20:29):
you know, a Bert Harvey put it together for you,
or looks like you can do it yourself. And they're
pretty darned cool. And then people dress them up. It's
like a tiny home. So it's like it's like a
little you know how you see these little garages they
put you ever, well, you ever go up to Home
Depot or Low's and they got those little sheds out front.

(20:52):
You walk up to one of those and you think,
you know, I could use some more space to store junk,
because that's all you're gonna do. I use one, probably
two hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I'll walk up here and check on it. Probably a
couple hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
I do it.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I put it out back. My wife will never know.
I'll put it behind the boys room where we smokeing
on I'll be it'll put some.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
More junk in it.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
And you go up there and it's like seven thousand dollars.
What is going on here? It's crazy? Who is paying that?
It's insane? Anyway, It's called Arched Cabins LLLC dot com
and they're cool as hell. Some of them are just
basic metal but some of them, they really dress them

(21:35):
up to look like an architectural just amazing. But the pricing,
I always tell people who become show sponsors, I don't
want show sponsors who compete on lowest price because you
don't actually want the customer. Believe it or not, I
have to explain this bit. The customer who is the
most price conscious is the worst customer. That's the guy

(21:58):
that will that will knit pick you to dad.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
That is not.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
And I know people that have a lot of money,
I mean a lot of money, and it's a thrill
to them to get the cheapest deal. And that's fine,
there's nothing wrong with that being the case. But I'm
telling you, as a business owner, you don't want that.
At the RCC, when people would come up and complain
about our crisis, I would say, I completely understand. I'm
not sure why you paid for it, but here's what

(22:22):
I'm gonna do. You put it on your credit card.
I'm a zero out that charge and please don't come back.
Ah but I know it's my favorite place in the world. Well,
why are you bitching about your favorite place? I just
like the bitch.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I know.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I don't like people that bitch you liked the bitch.
I don't like people that bitch, So the best thing
for us is we part ways right now. Because I
did not come over here in a place I lose
money on that. I do because I love to do
to hear you bitch, because you enjoy bitching, Go get
a therapist or a dog or something right, an alligator something.
A fellow named Charlie Wiggins wrote me an email said, Hey, Zar,

(22:58):
this is Charlie Wiggins from Boma. I've been wanting to
write you for some time, but I'm probably the world's
worst enjoying the world's worse at typing out emails. But
when I do, it's because there is a need. My
need is to let you know how much I enjoy
listening to your show every morning while driving to work.
I retired from Jefferson County in twenty twelve as Constable

(23:19):
of Precinct one. During my tenure there, I had the
pleasure of knowing your brother Chris, and what a great
guy he was. I and many of our colleagues were
very saddened with his passing. I know you were blessed
to have him, and he was so blessed to have you.
I've been to work since twenty eighteen as a deputy
working for Constable Bobby Adams in Precinct seven. Thank you

(23:39):
again for doing what you do in all support that
you give to law enforcement. It means a lot to us.
I hope to actually meet you in person one day.
Keep up the good work, Charlie Wiggins. I got that
email yesterday, but I could not read it yesterday. I
needed a day to process. But I read it today
to tell you that during the next break, take two

(24:02):
minutes and call somebody the wife, the widow of a
man who died.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Who was your friend?

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Are the widower ladies of your girlfriend to her husband?
And y'all were girlfriends since y'all were in high school,
and she was your running buddy, and you remember when
he proposed to her, and she told you all about it,
and she was your best girlfriend of them all. And
by the way, I get emails every time I say
that my mother referred to her friends who were girls

(24:32):
as girlfriends. I don't know why people think that's a
lesbian term, because it's not in my mother's generation, which
is the language I use. Your girlfriend was your best friend,
who was your girl? If you were a girl, but
people don't do that because they go, well, it'll upset them,
and well, it'll bringing up that name. That person is
already thinking about the person that they missed. It's nice

(24:55):
to know someone else's as well. King, Well, something must
be right.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
You are listening to Michael Berry. Order order representative Green,
Order representative Green. I am asking you to leave the river. No, sir,
we're taking you to the loft.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
Well, sir, you are going to be sad because you
should have sat down. I'm a man, that's it getting
him out.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, we got the wrong green.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
Let me.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
The one you.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Bill.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, Hey.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Michael, I was going to tell you there was been
a bit more about that. Placio del Rio. The hotel
had to be open for Hemisphere, and they were still
building on it. Actually, some floored were actually occupied due
to those stacked in rooms. It was amazing and Zachary
was the only one that took the contract because the
other contractors refused they didn't think they could make the

(26:21):
opening date. He won millions and in side bets on
being able to complete the hotel and one more thing.
In nineteen sixty five, I had a beer bar in
San Antonio and Doug Some and Sir Douglas Quintet with
my house band. I loved what was you bar?

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Name the Blue Note.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I'm going to look it up. I bet that if
that was your house band, there's going to be things
written about it. That's very interesting.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
It was out there on McCullough and San Pedro. I
can't remember now it's spent your damn low but right
at Hillebrand and it's that whole area has now been
turned into a a barbecue restaurant, that whole block. It's
it's one of the ben a many many over there.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
How interesting. Yeah, San and Tone as a tourist city
has had a transformation. And I don't want to say
it's a bad thing, because you sound like such a
hipster to do that, but I guess I do sort
of miss the sand and Tone I grew up with,
you know that that we would drive to, and the

(27:38):
sleepy little town with the great history. But I will
say this, pulling pulling out of the Valencia and heading
to our station in San Antone last last week, it
was interesting to me. Not usually, it reminded me it's
one of my favorite downtowns in the whole world. It's

(27:59):
it's such a wonderful little downtown and it's such a
unique downtown. You know, when I walk along the Quarter
in New Orleans, I feel a feeling that you're in
a special place. And by the way, San Francisco, when
you walk along in San Francisco, you're in a special place.

(28:23):
And and there aren't so many in America today special
places in terms of architecture and the feel and the
vibe and all that that is that is unique. There's
there's kind of this national or even global just sort
of here's the Strip Center. Here's the same set of
shops that's going to be in there, with maybe one

(28:46):
independent Vietnamese nail salon and maybe a local hair salon,
and that's and the rest is all going to just
be those same cookie cutter franchises. But when you're in
downtown San anton there is a whole there's a whole
feeling to it. And you know you've got You've got
the Alamo, and then you got these built. There was
a Walgreen sign, it was a Neon sign on the

(29:08):
corner just a block away from Valencia and I'm turning left,
I can't remember what street. As I'm turning left, I
got honked out by the guy behind me. I had
become that person because I was staring at the Walgreen
sign for so long. It was the old sign that
comes out off the building, you know what I'm talking about,
in the green and reddish, and it was just, oh,

(29:29):
it felt so good. It felt so good. These old
buildings untouched. The old Crockett Hotel. We always took a
picture of the Crocket Hotel with the boys because I
took my boys to the Alamo.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
Romo.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, I took my boys to the Alamo. They learned
the story of the Alamo when they were young enough
that they would still revere it. And now it's burned
into their DNA, it's baked in. But you, this is
really this has been a this has really been a
revelation that you haven't taken your kids to the Alm.
I'll do a GoFundMe for you on this. If we've

(30:03):
got to good our gifts, send go. Let's go to Chuck. Chuck,
you're on the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Go ahead, sir, Good morning, sir. Hey, I'd like to
point out, please we have a window of opportunity for
businesses and to bring back manufacturing and so forth. Sir,
Dark Country, these tariffs at a more level business playing field.
That should like to put a plea out man with
our businesses, our opportunities. Please please reconsider expanding hiring during

(30:35):
this wonderful time.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Good point, ma man. I'm going to go ahead and
say it, because apparently the Wall Street Journal doesn't understand it.
People are panicked over the tariffs and it's caused. It
caused a momentary panic in the market, and we're going
to see more of that. By the way, So the

(30:58):
tariff's going into a fact, goes on hold right now.
Twenty five percent is a punitive tariff. There's no doubt
about that. These tariffs, if they stayed in effact for
ten years, they would reconfigure the playing field. There would
be winners and losers created out of these tariffs. And
the Wall Street Journal is decrying this as the end

(31:20):
of the world. Economy is going to collapse and everything.
This is the art of the deal. This is a negotiation. Okay,
Let the tariffs run. Trump has to show Mexico, Canada,
and China individually, and China's going to be the hardest.

(31:42):
He has to show them that this is not an
empty threat. He has to show them that the tariffs
will go into effect and they will stay in effect.
And what China in particular is doing is working behind
the scenes to get the Democrats to say, the refs
are going to destroy America. Everyone's gonna die. You didn't

(32:03):
vote for this, And so they keep putting these people
on TV and they go, here's a farmer in Nebraska
and he voted for Trump, but he sure doesn't. Won't
these these tariffs?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
No, I don't. And he's got some accent like a
New Yorker was put on the cast of Hethu and said,
just talk to the heell billies. It's very annoying and
it's not legitimates, not authentic, and we see through it.
The tariffs are a tool to whip into shape Canada, Mexico,

(32:37):
and China to do what we want them to do.
That includes, but is not limited to securing our northern
and southern borders, and with China, it's a number of things.
And Trump has that tool, that that arrow in his quiver.
But if he doesn't employ it, he can't get out

(32:58):
of these nations. What we need for anybody who says
this is the Michael. You say you don't want the
government involved in the economy, but this is the government
getting involved. Well yeah, but the problem is the government
is already so involved. What you're taking as the status
quo was created over many years of bad governmental policies,
so it's unfortunately going to take. You can't just undo

(33:20):
what was done overnight because Mexico, Canada, and China don't
want to renegotiate their deal with us. They got a
good deal. Like Jerry Klower's wife, you know, she can
have her breakfast wherever she wants, and she can you know,
drive her Cadillac wherever she wants. And he tells the
she coun don't mess with the deal mama's got. Send

(33:43):
me an email if you want to join us at
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