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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This vocalist sounds like speaking of Chance mcclan about a
year ago. He does the most random, creative things and
we never actually used it. He came up with a
theme song for our Black Line, which is how we
celebrate and honor black folks with a separate phone line.
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And he came up with a theme song for the
Black Line, and this is.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It has a certain.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Really kind of builds. You know, I can see it.
We pulled the stats the other day and ninety six
(01:31):
point eight percent of callers on the Black Line are
ment that is probably the one demographic where we fare
the worst, which is black women. So if a black
woman calls up right now, you will be put right
through seven one three nine nine nine one thousand, seven
one three, one thousand. And you know who we hadn't
heard from in a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Jeff.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Remember Jeff, the Walgreens delivery driver. He's a hoot because
he'll he'll get so tickled in the middle of his
own commentary that he will stop and laugh in the
middle of his commentary at what he himself is saying.
That guy's got all the joy. You know, everybody who
sees him everywhere he goes just loves. Oh, there comes
Jeff with the delivery. I bet he is the most
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beloved delivery at all the Walgreens. I bet I bet
they look forward. You know, you don't normally look forward
to your chips and soda delivery guy coming. But I
bet at everyone he goes saying, oh, there comes Jeff.
If you met Jeff, he's something. Well, he's the nicest
guy in the world. Rooster. So, by the way, seven
one three nine nine nine one thousand, seven one three
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nine nine nine one thousand, Rooster, you're on the Michael
Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, good morning.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I had really tall the other day just to get
your address where I can write your letter. But uh,
he said, well would you like to talk? And I so, yeah,
and so, but we never got through. But here I
am again. So you had You had really impressed me
the other day when I was sitting out on my
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porchair just watching nature go by and bring them and
the rolling hills here, they're great, and you said something.
I was just passively listening, and you said something about
teach me the Bible.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I said what, and.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Because they rang a bell with me and I said,
that's my church. And then then you start talking to
this young man and his name's David Klinger. He's a
great guy. He's a teacher. We have two two pastors
that are what I call main pastors at our church.
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It's called Champions and Brunham. And one of them is Tim,
who's the original guy. They're seventeen years and more. He's
a he's a a guy you want to hug. And
David is a teacher who really teaches you what the
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Bible says and there's no ritual about it. It eases
you that so it gives you two different perspectives and
it's just fantastic. And I said, I can't believe this,
and you're uncanny ability to see something in value somewhere.
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And I found out later that an interview that was
intended to be maybe ten minutes was the whole show.
And I stayed with it the whole show. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And did you call one time? Do you own like
an antique shop in Chapel Hill or something that is
my mind going crazy on me.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Or doing I did and I also owned the bar
pool Hall.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You are my ideal you are my ideal listener or
you retired, Yeah, a long time. Well, you're our ideal listener,
because you know, a lot of folks are in a
hurry and they don't know what, but they're in a hurry,
and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They got kids, in a job, and they got aways.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But I like to do I call our show a magazine,
not a newspaper. I like to do long form interviews,
take our times, laugh a little, cry a little, and
and you're listening long enough that the show kind of
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Speaker 3 (05:45):
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Speaker 1 (05:46):
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I mean, ramon jim Nuts. There's your answer, Rooster, I'm here, okay.
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So this church you go to does Klingler? So you
have two pastors? Do you have a pastor and a
preacher in that one? Is more? You know the pastors
the flock and the and Cleanler preaches or how does
that work? Are they co pastors? What do you how
that work?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, it's hard to explain. Uh. I'm old school, and
I like both of them because they have a different
purpose each one. David teaches you. Both of them believe
that the Bible written by men, common men, fishermen, cac collectors,
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and so forth, just very down to earth people. And
you wonder how in the world did they write the Bible? Well,
it was all inspired by God. And when you once
you understand that, then you believe in it. And all
this ritual that we tend to get all mixed up
in that's history, then, I mean, and it's just not good.
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But so we got two. I call him the main
pastor David, and he teaches and he's you know, he
has a different perspective because he comes from a style
that we appreciate, and you.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Know, it's interesting. Hold On, I want to tell you
that you brought something up that I was going to
mention as to you called it uncanny whatever, the ability
was to find things like this and find them relevant.
And yes, the interview was only supposed to be about
ten minutes. I don't even use the term interview. I
accidentally do, but I consider it more of a discussion
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because I think most interviews are kind of boring, to
be completely lost. I'd rather have a discussion the way
we would have if we were in a living room
or at Bible study. And it was brought to my
attention that David Kleingler was now a Bible teacher, and
I was very interested in that because when I was
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at the University of Houston, David Kleingler was the star quarterback.
And let me tell you something. It was in It
was Andre Ware, and then it was David Cleanland, it
was his brother Jimmy, and David Klingler could throw a football.
And I never missed a game. I went to every game,
every home game anyway. And I even got to travel
with the team because I was student body president and
they would take me everywhere and I'd fly on the
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on the plane with the team. And I had such
admiration for the quality of guy he was and the
way he conducted himself, but I can't say that we
were friends. And then I found and I didn't know
whatever happened to him. I know what Andre's up to,
I know what a lot of those guys are up to,
but I didn't know what had happened to him. And
I was really interested in his faith journey and how
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he ended up teaching the Bible. You know, you go
from hanging up your cleats as a professional athlete with
the Bengals and and I think he I mean, yeah,
the Bengals, and I think the Green Bay Packers and
maybe somewhere else doesn't matter, but you know, you hang
up your cleats and that's a real that's a real
tough fork in the road for professional athletes as to
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what do I do now? And most of them sadly
don't find their way and they end up hanging out
with a lot of their old buddies from high school
because that's who's available, and they end up in drugs,
in prison and all that sort of mess, and they
burned through the money. Well, here was a guy that
I saw, Okay, this is going to be interesting, and
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I was really more interested in his personal story, and
I thought we would he could teach the Bible while
we were at it. But for all I knew he'd
be boring. And he originally didn't want to do the
interview because he did not want an interview. He didn't
want to where are they now? Segment on you know,
former athlete and just talk uh football stories because let me,
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for people who don't know eighty nine ninety ninety one,
those years ninety two at the University of Houston, that
football team was phenomenal. I mean it was. There were
years that that team beat the University of Texas and
beat A and M and was better than those teams.
I mean it was. It was a fun time to
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be there, and he didn't want that. He wanted he
has moved into his transitioned to a different phase in
his life. And I thought that was an interesting approach.
And so as we got to talking, I just let
myself fall into being a curious person and asking questions,
and I found I found it quite interesting. So I
appreciate you saying that, Rooster. I really do thank you
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for the call. Who did you have next, Ym Richard,
You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Doctor Klingler was my seminary professor, and I'm the one
that originally sending you that email to inform you of
what he's doing now. And I appreciate the like, Rooster,
the great interview you did with them at that with
that much time you did promoting teach Me the Bible
podcast and his teachings. I've been a nurse teachings for
since two thousand and thirty team when I took them
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at seminary. But we have to teach me the Bible
conference coming up this weekend and now it's actually it
already was, as you know, a low price, it's now free.
So it's in Brenham. It's Friday night and most of Saturday,
and it's going to be some excellent teaching.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So that's xactly. I thank you again directly. It was
only like twenty nine bucks. I mean, they're not trying.
It looks like they're not trying to make an me money.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I thought it was a cool deal, so I thought
it might have been closed out by now. But if
you say it's not, that's even better.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So, yeah, teach me the Bible dot com. Now you
went to seminary. What do you do now?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, I've always I've been in outside sales for forty
years now, and I went to seminary Bible College and
then seminary to learn the Bible. It became a Christian
at forty years old. I'm fifty nine now, and I
did learn what I believe. I want to know what
exactly I believe.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
The like hold with us, Richard. I'd like to hear
your testimony. Spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, Hoosker duos,
Whosker don'ts nips and dazers with without the scooter stick.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Or one single whistling kitty.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Jason Trump is hosting what the Irish call their t
shuck the head of government, the Prime Minister, Michael Martin. Today.
There will be bilateral meetings. There will be one on one,
there will be some private conversation. There will be a
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Friends of Ireland luncheon at the Capitol at noon Eastern.
There will be a Saint Patrick's Day reception back at
the White House with the Irish Prime Minister. There will
be tariff.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Talk unrelated to Ireland.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
There will be tariff talk, as the primary source of
steel in the United States is Canadian steel. American steelmakers
delighted with the thought of a double tariff on Canada,
which has been suspended because Ford had announced that he
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was going to put a search arge on electricity sent
into northern states like Minnesota and Wisconsin. And so Trump
came back in the negotiation and said, all right, well,
I'll just double the steel terraffs. And as Trump has
noted multiple times, he could shut down the Canadian steel
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and auto industries with the tariffs he has threatened, and
they know this. He also reiterated his call for them
to be the fifty first state, which while it violates
my need for things to be orderly, because fifty is perfect.
It is a fun way to humiliate Canada and remind them, Look,
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you're not our equal. We're not negotiating as we are
as if we are. It isn't Joe Biden anymore. You're
not getting over on us, all right, was it? Richard
on the line?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yes, all right?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Why don't you so you were forty years old when
you became a Christian? Tell me that. Take about two
minutes and tell me that story.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yeah. My wife at that time, I guess twenty about no,
about ten years she had become a Well she's still
My wife became a Christian two years before me. Instead
of nagging me because I needed nagging, but she realized
that becoming Christian started praying for me. So those two
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years of prayers, God, you know, here to prayers, and
I became a believer at forty. And that's kind of
it that I you know, I was interested in the
Bible and reading the Bible, started really reading it, and
then decided after keeping my Sunday school teacher at Cyprus
Bible Church. After two hours asking you questions, he said,
why don't you go to Bible College? I said, no,
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I'm a salesman. I'm a I'm a business guy. He goes, no,
you're a Bible guy. So I took his advice, enrolled
in Bible College, did that full time for three years,
got a degree, then went to Dallas Theological Seminary of
the Houston branch, and my favorite professor was, no, was
David Klingler. And I took sixteen classes from him, and
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took about eight of them again twice, so I took
his classes more than once.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And yeah, oh.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Gosh, it was probably the first one I took from
him was the Gospels. So in the Gospels class, there
was an older lady in the class and she she
probably been a Christian longer than him and I have
been alive. And she said, uh, you know where you're
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Klingler is?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
He said.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
She kept asking, Hey, how I how do I apply this?
How do I apply this?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Verse?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
That versus? Or is that first? And he said because,
he said, He sat down on us chairing typical Clingler
fact fashion, and said, how's this for a for an application?
Just be in awe of Jesus. Isn't that just being
all of his of his grace and mercy and his
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so that kind of is clean, you see, what I'm
saying it was. It was that kind of appeel to me,
just being all it's not it's all about us. The
Bible is more about God. We're in there, but the
Bible is about God, not us. We want to make
it about us because we're we're sin we have a
sinful nation, we're selfish by nature. But it's about God
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and his grace, his mercy, his incredible salvation, his gift
of salvation.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Did he always wear fishing shirts to class? Because every
picture I see of the site he has a fishing shirt.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, pretty much. It's funny because a lot of times
he'd wear a sports jacket too with his jeans and
boots and uh yeah, so yeah, pretty much a fishy
shirt and and uh when he when he wear the
sport coat. Though he did do properly. He did tuck
in his fishing shirt and wore his his sports jacket.
I did Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You said that you went to seminary full time. I
like your laugh. You said you went seminary full time.
Does that mean that you suspended work or how did that?
What was the time I did that?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah? So, uh, Luckily I have I have a very
supportive life and we had enough money and and and
and we both worked. And you mean I said, well,
you know, I don't know if I could do both
same time. You know what she said, she said, do
it full time. I said, are you sure, honey? She said, yeah,
I support you on it. So that's my life I have.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah. So what do you think you were making when
you stopped work? Per you?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Oh, one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So you walked away from one hundred and thirty thousand
for three years. Did was your job waiting for you
when you came back six six years? Remember three years
of Bob Callas in three years of seminary. Wow, in
your forties, your prime earning, your prime earning years. And
then what did you did you go back to that
job or what happened at the end of the six years?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
After well, after six years, I went back to sales
because that's what I do. And my ministry is through sales.
I'm always you know, uh, where we do, ministry is
where we're at right. Absolutely, my ministry is sales. So
I went back and worked for a friend of mine
selling ads to fibulators and did that well for for
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eight nine years and now I'm still an outside sales
So uh did that sell a job? A job wasn't
waiting for me. I fell xerox copy of printers for
Superior office Products. We're based out of Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
but we have a Houston office. Been in business thirty
three years. Family owned by the Postchet family. Fantastic family,
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by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Interesting, what an interesting story. You know, people do amazing things.
I mean, I can imagine the conversation at the dinner table.
I can imagine the amount of prayer, and I can
imagine the amount of you know, I mean anxiety, fear, uncertainty,
self questioning. Yeah, to have to get past that and
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say no, I'm going to do this. I'm gonna walk
on faith. I love it. I mean I admire that
it is. I think most folks are paralyzed, you know,
the paralysis by analysis. I think most people are paralyzed
by fear and uncertainty, and then they reach a point
in their life where it's too late to do the
things they wish they had done. A leap of faith
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in your case, and I think that regret eats you alive.
But you did it. I mean, that's incredible, And what
a great wife you have to have to to say,
you know, don't worry, I'll handle the work and the finances,
you do. What a great lady. That's incredible, the best wife.
And her name is Karen.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
And she's not a Karen, as you know, the new
thing is, she's the opposite of any Karen.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
What a what a great story. Thank you for sharing
that great testimony. And as requested popular solicitation, it is
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the aforementioned Jeff and his inimitable, infectious laugh. Never stop laughing, Jeff.
You know I tell Crockett. I tell Crockett all the time. Crockett,
the world is crazy and bitter and and nervous and petty,
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and you're never changed. Don't let the world change. So
don't change, Jeff.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
No, just keep on last good morning.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Right now? What are you going?
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I'm I'm on, I'm on. I'm on the south side
Beltway eight. Uh, just crossing over to eighty eight. I'm eastbound.
I got to get over here the highway one forty six.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Don't stop, yeah, yeah, I don't keep getting keep going now,
all right, so what do you got to get to?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
You?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Where are you going?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
A place called a place called Pullman Sugar. I got
to pick up a load of sugar. Uh, that's gonna
go up to Dallas Fort word.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So what will that sugar brun him good around the Beltway? Well?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Probably probably no, no, no, no, this is gonna be
a lot of sort of raw sugar in large sacks,
and I mean large sacks probably probably somewhere in the
area of about forty thousand pounds of it they'll put
in the back of the trailer and these individual sacks,
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probably about twenty to twenty two of them, something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
How does it how does it not coagulate or get
get sticky? I mean, how does it not with this
moisture this year?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
You know, that's a good question. It's it's it's not
processed to that point, like the household sugar, you know.
But the sacs I'm sure are waterproof that they're putting
it in. It's got to keep the.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Moisture out, so it's not refined.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, not to that point. Yeah,
we're gonna take it up there to another facility and
they'll do it from there. But listen, where.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Do you take it? What's the facility where you take it.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I'm not I'm not gonna take it. I'm going to actually, Mike,
I'm gonna take it back to the yard. One of
the one of the line driver or drivers will take
it up to Fort Worth. I'm just gonna I primarily
stay local now. I just run here and there and
here and there, pick it up, take it back to
the yard, set it down, and then one of the
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relay drivers will pick it up from there, run it
up to uh the yard up in Waxahatchie and set
it down and then another driver will will probably deliver
it on tomorrow some point. Yeah, it's what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's Do you.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Ever show up places and they go, oh, are you
just from the black line?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know what I get? You know what that's that's
that's probably what I He had a location and I'm
trying to remember where, and a Hispanic ups driver walked
up to me and and uh, he just stood there
and I was talking to the shipper about what I
was there for. And when I got done, he said,
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you're jails, and uh, and I kind of had I said,
what's that? He said, you're jail? And I kind of
thought Okay, well he's seen my badge. I keep my
badge on me. He said, no, no, no, no, your
jail Jeff on the Black Line. And I thought, I said,
how'd you? He said, I'd recognize your voice anywhere You're
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on the Michael Barris Show. That's what he said. And
I knew then, Mike, I said, I got to stop
calling in.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I got no people love you. A little burst of joy,
all right, I interrupted you, What did you want to say?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Well, I wanted to thank you. Between you and Traum
and Elon, I have had a period where I can
just bath for a while on Mike. Uh you know,
it was it was it was hot and heavy before
the election, and you know, and it was tense and
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and uh, you know, it was a little uncertain, although
I felt confident that that Trump would pull it off.
But uh, I stayed on my knees a lot, I
really did. I stayed on my knees a lot. I said, well, Lord,
we're gonna need all the help we can get here.
And uh and and and your show again. Uh you know,
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I said, Trump and Elon because they're doing their part,
but you have brought more black people into awareness than
you know, and I'm talking more than just Misjoyce the
Sage and and CJ and others that call you show
all the time. You know, I've been mentioning you to
a lot of blacks that I know, and they'll come
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back ladies say, you know what, Jeff, I like that guy.
I like him. I like listening to him. And the
thing I boast about you the most is, I said, listen,
the thing about him is that he'll take on anybody.
He'll take on the bad white guys, and he'll take
on the bad black guys. And he's gonna call a
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spade a spade, no pun intended, but I said, but
that's just it. He's gonna shoot straight. And I think
that's what you will appreciate most about it. So I've
been relishing in that brick, taking the time to kind
of and that's why you haven't heard from me. I've
just been sitting back listening to your other callers and
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kind of take it in and congratulations. I know you've
expanded the show and everything, and that's great. I'm glad.
And I've been listening to your callers that call in
from all over the country and like me, the trucker
that I am. I like talking to people, but I
like listening to people too, And you've got some great
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folks that's calling from the backwoods, the sticks, all over
the place. I think you've even got a spot. Now
what in Minnesota? Up that way of something? I think
I heard at one point and I just wanted Minneapolis. Yeah, congratulations,
my great work, great work, man. I can't say enough
about you.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I appreciate. Yeah, you know it's funny, Jeff. We self syndicated,
We self syndicated, and any years of doing this, we
got up to thirty one markets, which is unheard of
for a self syndicated show.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And then as part of my new deal, Premiere, which
which yeah, the largest that was behind Russe Limbaugh and
of course Seawan and Glenn and Clay and Buck and.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Yeah, and the earliest Premier wanted to take the show
national where they would handle everything outside of Houston. And
we went from thirty one stations to on October seventh, when.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They flipped the switch wait to Go till today, we
went to sixty two. It just it changed everything. It's
independent artist and wait, Jeff, I want you to call
more often because you bring joy to us. I'm serious
you are.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
In the world of dark.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
You bring it to me, well, you bring it to me,
and you bring it to a lot of folks. Might
keep up the great work, man, alcohol.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I like the world better with you in it. There's
so much goodness in the world. There really is, folks.
You just gotta you gotta be looking for it. There's
you know, people are stressed out and this and that.
You got to take the moment and be like Rooster
to sit on the back porch, have a cup of coffee.
Or Richard go into seminary at forty years What a
what a story.
This vocalist sounds like speaking of Chance mcclan about a
year ago. He does the most random, creative things and
we never actually used it. He came up with a
theme song for our Black Line, which is how we
celebrate and honor black folks with a separate phone line.
(00:26):
And he came up with a theme song for the
Black Line, and this is.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It has a certain.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Really kind of builds. You know, I can see it.
We pulled the stats the other day and ninety six
(01:31):
point eight percent of callers on the Black Line are
ment that is probably the one demographic where we fare
the worst, which is black women. So if a black
woman calls up right now, you will be put right
through seven one three nine nine nine one thousand, seven
one three, one thousand. And you know who we hadn't
heard from in a long time.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Jeff.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Remember Jeff, the Walgreens delivery driver. He's a hoot because
he'll he'll get so tickled in the middle of his
own commentary that he will stop and laugh in the
middle of his commentary at what he himself is saying.
That guy's got all the joy. You know, everybody who
sees him everywhere he goes just loves. Oh, there comes
Jeff with the delivery. I bet he is the most
(02:19):
beloved delivery at all the Walgreens. I bet I bet
they look forward. You know, you don't normally look forward
to your chips and soda delivery guy coming. But I
bet at everyone he goes saying, oh, there comes Jeff.
If you met Jeff, he's something. Well, he's the nicest
guy in the world. Rooster. So, by the way, seven
one three nine nine nine one thousand, seven one three
(02:40):
nine nine nine one thousand, Rooster, you're on the Michael
Berry Show. Go ahead, sir, good morning.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I had really tall the other day just to get
your address where I can write your letter. But uh,
he said, well would you like to talk? And I so, yeah,
and so, but we never got through. But here I
am again. So you had You had really impressed me
the other day when I was sitting out on my
(03:08):
porchair just watching nature go by and bring them and
the rolling hills here, they're great, and you said something.
I was just passively listening, and you said something about
teach me the Bible.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I said what, and.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Because they rang a bell with me and I said,
that's my church. And then then you start talking to
this young man and his name's David Klinger. He's a
great guy. He's a teacher. We have two two pastors
that are what I call main pastors at our church.
(03:47):
It's called Champions and Brunham. And one of them is Tim,
who's the original guy. They're seventeen years and more. He's
a he's a a guy you want to hug. And
David is a teacher who really teaches you what the
(04:08):
Bible says and there's no ritual about it. It eases
you that so it gives you two different perspectives and
it's just fantastic. And I said, I can't believe this,
and you're uncanny ability to see something in value somewhere.
(04:30):
And I found out later that an interview that was
intended to be maybe ten minutes was the whole show.
And I stayed with it the whole show. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And did you call one time? Do you own like
an antique shop in Chapel Hill or something that is
my mind going crazy on me.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Or doing I did and I also owned the bar
pool Hall.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You are my ideal you are my ideal listener or
you retired, Yeah, a long time. Well, you're our ideal listener,
because you know, a lot of folks are in a
hurry and they don't know what, but they're in a hurry,
and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They got kids, in a job, and they got aways.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But I like to do I call our show a magazine,
not a newspaper. I like to do long form interviews,
take our times, laugh a little, cry a little, and
and you're listening long enough that the show kind of
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I mean, ramon jim Nuts. There's your answer, Rooster, I'm here, okay.
(06:54):
So this church you go to does Klingler? So you
have two pastors? Do you have a pastor and a
preacher in that one? Is more? You know the pastors
the flock and the and Cleanler preaches or how does
that work? Are they co pastors? What do you how
that work?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, it's hard to explain. Uh. I'm old school, and
I like both of them because they have a different
purpose each one. David teaches you. Both of them believe
that the Bible written by men, common men, fishermen, cac collectors,
(07:34):
and so forth, just very down to earth people. And
you wonder how in the world did they write the Bible? Well,
it was all inspired by God. And when you once
you understand that, then you believe in it. And all
this ritual that we tend to get all mixed up
in that's history, then, I mean, and it's just not good.
(07:56):
But so we got two. I call him the main
pastor David, and he teaches and he's you know, he
has a different perspective because he comes from a style
that we appreciate, and you.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Know, it's interesting. Hold On, I want to tell you
that you brought something up that I was going to
mention as to you called it uncanny whatever, the ability
was to find things like this and find them relevant.
And yes, the interview was only supposed to be about
ten minutes. I don't even use the term interview. I
accidentally do, but I consider it more of a discussion
(08:36):
because I think most interviews are kind of boring, to
be completely lost. I'd rather have a discussion the way
we would have if we were in a living room
or at Bible study. And it was brought to my
attention that David Kleingler was now a Bible teacher, and
I was very interested in that because when I was
(08:57):
at the University of Houston, David Kleingler was the star quarterback.
And let me tell you something. It was in It
was Andre Ware, and then it was David Cleanland, it
was his brother Jimmy, and David Klingler could throw a football.
And I never missed a game. I went to every game,
every home game anyway. And I even got to travel
with the team because I was student body president and
they would take me everywhere and I'd fly on the
(09:18):
on the plane with the team. And I had such
admiration for the quality of guy he was and the
way he conducted himself, but I can't say that we
were friends. And then I found and I didn't know
whatever happened to him. I know what Andre's up to,
I know what a lot of those guys are up to,
but I didn't know what had happened to him. And
I was really interested in his faith journey and how
(09:42):
he ended up teaching the Bible. You know, you go
from hanging up your cleats as a professional athlete with
the Bengals and and I think he I mean, yeah,
the Bengals, and I think the Green Bay Packers and
maybe somewhere else doesn't matter, but you know, you hang
up your cleats and that's a real that's a real
tough fork in the road for professional athletes as to
(10:04):
what do I do now? And most of them sadly
don't find their way and they end up hanging out
with a lot of their old buddies from high school
because that's who's available, and they end up in drugs,
in prison and all that sort of mess, and they
burned through the money. Well, here was a guy that
I saw, Okay, this is going to be interesting, and
(10:25):
I was really more interested in his personal story, and
I thought we would he could teach the Bible while
we were at it. But for all I knew he'd
be boring. And he originally didn't want to do the
interview because he did not want an interview. He didn't
want to where are they now? Segment on you know,
former athlete and just talk uh football stories because let me,
(10:47):
for people who don't know eighty nine ninety ninety one,
those years ninety two at the University of Houston, that
football team was phenomenal. I mean it was. There were
years that that team beat the University of Texas and
beat A and M and was better than those teams.
I mean it was. It was a fun time to
(11:07):
be there, and he didn't want that. He wanted he
has moved into his transitioned to a different phase in
his life. And I thought that was an interesting approach.
And so as we got to talking, I just let
myself fall into being a curious person and asking questions,
and I found I found it quite interesting. So I
appreciate you saying that, Rooster. I really do thank you
(11:29):
for the call. Who did you have next, Ym Richard,
You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Doctor Klingler was my seminary professor, and I'm the one
that originally sending you that email to inform you of
what he's doing now. And I appreciate the like, Rooster,
the great interview you did with them at that with
that much time you did promoting teach Me the Bible
podcast and his teachings. I've been a nurse teachings for
since two thousand and thirty team when I took them
(12:02):
at seminary. But we have to teach me the Bible
conference coming up this weekend and now it's actually it
already was, as you know, a low price, it's now free.
So it's in Brenham. It's Friday night and most of Saturday,
and it's going to be some excellent teaching.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So that's xactly. I thank you again directly. It was
only like twenty nine bucks. I mean, they're not trying.
It looks like they're not trying to make an me money.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I thought it was a cool deal, so I thought
it might have been closed out by now. But if
you say it's not, that's even better.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So, yeah, teach me the Bible dot com. Now you
went to seminary. What do you do now?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, I've always I've been in outside sales for forty
years now, and I went to seminary Bible College and
then seminary to learn the Bible. It became a Christian
at forty years old. I'm fifty nine now, and I
did learn what I believe. I want to know what
exactly I believe.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
The like hold with us, Richard. I'd like to hear
your testimony. Spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, Hoosker duos,
Whosker don'ts nips and dazers with without the scooter stick.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Or one single whistling kitty.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Jason Trump is hosting what the Irish call their t
shuck the head of government, the Prime Minister, Michael Martin. Today.
There will be bilateral meetings. There will be one on one,
there will be some private conversation. There will be a
(13:36):
Friends of Ireland luncheon at the Capitol at noon Eastern.
There will be a Saint Patrick's Day reception back at
the White House with the Irish Prime Minister. There will
be tariff.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Talk unrelated to Ireland.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
There will be tariff talk, as the primary source of
steel in the United States is Canadian steel. American steelmakers
delighted with the thought of a double tariff on Canada,
which has been suspended because Ford had announced that he
(14:14):
was going to put a search arge on electricity sent
into northern states like Minnesota and Wisconsin. And so Trump
came back in the negotiation and said, all right, well,
I'll just double the steel terraffs. And as Trump has
noted multiple times, he could shut down the Canadian steel
(14:35):
and auto industries with the tariffs he has threatened, and
they know this. He also reiterated his call for them
to be the fifty first state, which while it violates
my need for things to be orderly, because fifty is perfect.
It is a fun way to humiliate Canada and remind them, Look,
(14:55):
you're not our equal. We're not negotiating as we are
as if we are. It isn't Joe Biden anymore. You're
not getting over on us, all right, was it? Richard
on the line?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yes, all right?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Why don't you so you were forty years old when
you became a Christian? Tell me that. Take about two
minutes and tell me that story.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Yeah. My wife at that time, I guess twenty about no,
about ten years she had become a Well she's still
My wife became a Christian two years before me. Instead
of nagging me because I needed nagging, but she realized
that becoming Christian started praying for me. So those two
(15:39):
years of prayers, God, you know, here to prayers, and
I became a believer at forty. And that's kind of
it that I you know, I was interested in the
Bible and reading the Bible, started really reading it, and
then decided after keeping my Sunday school teacher at Cyprus
Bible Church. After two hours asking you questions, he said,
why don't you go to Bible College? I said, no,
(16:01):
I'm a salesman. I'm a I'm a business guy. He goes, no,
you're a Bible guy. So I took his advice, enrolled
in Bible College, did that full time for three years,
got a degree, then went to Dallas Theological Seminary of
the Houston branch, and my favorite professor was, no, was
David Klingler. And I took sixteen classes from him, and
(16:22):
took about eight of them again twice, so I took
his classes more than once.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And yeah, oh.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Gosh, it was probably the first one I took from
him was the Gospels. So in the Gospels class, there
was an older lady in the class and she she
probably been a Christian longer than him and I have
been alive. And she said, uh, you know where you're
(16:54):
Klingler is?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
He said.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
She kept asking, Hey, how I how do I apply this?
How do I apply this?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Verse?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
That versus? Or is that first? And he said because,
he said, He sat down on us chairing typical Clingler
fact fashion, and said, how's this for a for an application?
Just be in awe of Jesus. Isn't that just being
all of his of his grace and mercy and his
(17:20):
so that kind of is clean, you see, what I'm
saying it was. It was that kind of appeel to me,
just being all it's not it's all about us. The
Bible is more about God. We're in there, but the
Bible is about God, not us. We want to make
it about us because we're we're sin we have a
sinful nation, we're selfish by nature. But it's about God
(17:44):
and his grace, his mercy, his incredible salvation, his gift
of salvation.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Did he always wear fishing shirts to class? Because every
picture I see of the site he has a fishing shirt.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, pretty much. It's funny because a lot of times
he'd wear a sports jacket too with his jeans and
boots and uh yeah, so yeah, pretty much a fishy
shirt and and uh when he when he wear the
sport coat. Though he did do properly. He did tuck
in his fishing shirt and wore his his sports jacket.
I did Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You said that you went to seminary full time. I
like your laugh. You said you went seminary full time.
Does that mean that you suspended work or how did that?
What was the time I did that?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah? So, uh, Luckily I have I have a very
supportive life and we had enough money and and and
and we both worked. And you mean I said, well,
you know, I don't know if I could do both
same time. You know what she said, she said, do
it full time. I said, are you sure, honey? She said, yeah,
I support you on it. So that's my life I have.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah. So what do you think you were making when
you stopped work? Per you?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Oh, one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So you walked away from one hundred and thirty thousand
for three years. Did was your job waiting for you
when you came back six six years? Remember three years
of Bob Callas in three years of seminary. Wow, in
your forties, your prime earning, your prime earning years. And
then what did you did you go back to that
job or what happened at the end of the six years?
Speaker 4 (19:25):
After well, after six years, I went back to sales
because that's what I do. And my ministry is through sales.
I'm always you know, uh, where we do, ministry is
where we're at right. Absolutely, my ministry is sales. So
I went back and worked for a friend of mine
selling ads to fibulators and did that well for for
(19:48):
eight nine years and now I'm still an outside sales
So uh did that sell a job? A job wasn't
waiting for me. I fell xerox copy of printers for
Superior office Products. We're based out of Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
but we have a Houston office. Been in business thirty
three years. Family owned by the Postchet family. Fantastic family,
(20:10):
by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Interesting, what an interesting story. You know, people do amazing things.
I mean, I can imagine the conversation at the dinner table.
I can imagine the amount of prayer, and I can
imagine the amount of you know, I mean anxiety, fear, uncertainty,
self questioning. Yeah, to have to get past that and
(20:36):
say no, I'm going to do this. I'm gonna walk
on faith. I love it. I mean I admire that
it is. I think most folks are paralyzed, you know,
the paralysis by analysis. I think most people are paralyzed
by fear and uncertainty, and then they reach a point
in their life where it's too late to do the
things they wish they had done. A leap of faith
(21:00):
in your case, and I think that regret eats you alive.
But you did it. I mean, that's incredible, And what
a great wife you have to have to to say,
you know, don't worry, I'll handle the work and the finances,
you do. What a great lady. That's incredible, the best wife.
And her name is Karen.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
And she's not a Karen, as you know, the new
thing is, she's the opposite of any Karen.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
What a what a great story. Thank you for sharing
that great testimony. And as requested popular solicitation, it is
(21:49):
the aforementioned Jeff and his inimitable, infectious laugh. Never stop laughing, Jeff.
You know I tell Crockett. I tell Crockett all the time. Crockett,
the world is crazy and bitter and and nervous and petty,
(22:12):
and you're never changed. Don't let the world change. So
don't change, Jeff.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
No, just keep on last good morning.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Right now? What are you going?
Speaker 5 (22:23):
I'm I'm on, I'm on. I'm on the south side
Beltway eight. Uh, just crossing over to eighty eight. I'm eastbound.
I got to get over here the highway one forty six.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Don't stop, yeah, yeah, I don't keep getting keep going now,
all right, so what do you got to get to?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
You?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Listen?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Where are you going?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
A place called a place called Pullman Sugar. I got
to pick up a load of sugar. Uh, that's gonna
go up to Dallas Fort word.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So what will that sugar brun him good around the Beltway? Well?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Probably probably no, no, no, no, this is gonna be
a lot of sort of raw sugar in large sacks,
and I mean large sacks probably probably somewhere in the
area of about forty thousand pounds of it they'll put
in the back of the trailer and these individual sacks,
(23:29):
probably about twenty to twenty two of them, something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
How does it how does it not coagulate or get
get sticky? I mean, how does it not with this
moisture this year?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
You know, that's a good question. It's it's it's not
processed to that point, like the household sugar, you know.
But the sacs I'm sure are waterproof that they're putting
it in. It's got to keep the.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Moisture out, so it's not refined.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, not to that point. Yeah,
we're gonna take it up there to another facility and
they'll do it from there. But listen, where.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Do you take it? What's the facility where you take it.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I'm not I'm not gonna take it. I'm going to actually, Mike,
I'm gonna take it back to the yard. One of
the one of the line driver or drivers will take
it up to Fort Worth. I'm just gonna I primarily
stay local now. I just run here and there and
here and there, pick it up, take it back to
the yard, set it down, and then one of the
(24:31):
relay drivers will pick it up from there, run it
up to uh the yard up in Waxahatchie and set
it down and then another driver will will probably deliver
it on tomorrow some point. Yeah, it's what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's Do you.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Ever show up places and they go, oh, are you
just from the black line?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know what I get? You know what that's that's
that's probably what I He had a location and I'm
trying to remember where, and a Hispanic ups driver walked
up to me and and uh, he just stood there
and I was talking to the shipper about what I
was there for. And when I got done, he said,
(25:15):
you're jails, and uh, and I kind of had I said,
what's that? He said, you're jail? And I kind of
thought Okay, well he's seen my badge. I keep my
badge on me. He said, no, no, no, no, your
jail Jeff on the Black Line. And I thought, I said,
how'd you? He said, I'd recognize your voice anywhere You're
(25:39):
on the Michael Barris Show. That's what he said. And
I knew then, Mike, I said, I got to stop
calling in.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I got no people love you. A little burst of joy,
all right, I interrupted you, What did you want to say?
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Well, I wanted to thank you. Between you and Traum
and Elon, I have had a period where I can
just bath for a while on Mike. Uh you know,
it was it was it was hot and heavy before
the election, and you know, and it was tense and
(26:16):
and uh, you know, it was a little uncertain, although
I felt confident that that Trump would pull it off.
But uh, I stayed on my knees a lot, I
really did. I stayed on my knees a lot. I said, well, Lord,
we're gonna need all the help we can get here.
And uh and and and your show again. Uh you know,
(26:42):
I said, Trump and Elon because they're doing their part,
but you have brought more black people into awareness than
you know, and I'm talking more than just Misjoyce the
Sage and and CJ and others that call you show
all the time. You know, I've been mentioning you to
a lot of blacks that I know, and they'll come
(27:02):
back ladies say, you know what, Jeff, I like that guy.
I like him. I like listening to him. And the
thing I boast about you the most is, I said, listen,
the thing about him is that he'll take on anybody.
He'll take on the bad white guys, and he'll take
on the bad black guys. And he's gonna call a
(27:24):
spade a spade, no pun intended, but I said, but
that's just it. He's gonna shoot straight. And I think
that's what you will appreciate most about it. So I've
been relishing in that brick, taking the time to kind
of and that's why you haven't heard from me. I've
just been sitting back listening to your other callers and
(27:45):
kind of take it in and congratulations. I know you've
expanded the show and everything, and that's great. I'm glad.
And I've been listening to your callers that call in
from all over the country and like me, the trucker
that I am. I like talking to people, but I
like listening to people too, And you've got some great
(28:06):
folks that's calling from the backwoods, the sticks, all over
the place. I think you've even got a spot. Now
what in Minnesota? Up that way of something? I think
I heard at one point and I just wanted Minneapolis. Yeah, congratulations,
my great work, great work, man. I can't say enough
about you.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I appreciate. Yeah, you know it's funny, Jeff. We self syndicated,
We self syndicated, and any years of doing this, we
got up to thirty one markets, which is unheard of
for a self syndicated show.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And then as part of my new deal, Premiere, which
which yeah, the largest that was behind Russe Limbaugh and
of course Seawan and Glenn and Clay and Buck and.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Yeah, and the earliest Premier wanted to take the show
national where they would handle everything outside of Houston. And
we went from thirty one stations to on October seventh, when.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
They flipped the switch wait to Go till today, we
went to sixty two. It just it changed everything. It's
independent artist and wait, Jeff, I want you to call
more often because you bring joy to us. I'm serious
you are.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
In the world of dark.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
You bring it to me, well, you bring it to me,
and you bring it to a lot of folks. Might
keep up the great work, man, alcohol.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I like the world better with you in it. There's
so much goodness in the world. There really is, folks.
You just gotta you gotta be looking for it. There's
you know, people are stressed out and this and that.
You got to take the moment and be like Rooster
to sit on the back porch, have a cup of coffee.
Or Richard go into seminary at forty years What a
what a story.
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