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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Molli writes, my big mouth got me a contempt of
court charge. Spent three nights in Bear County three months
later on my child support to the sperm donor ex husband.
We had joint custody, but he had a snake for
a lawyer. When Judge David Peeples asked me why I
didn't want to support my children, my Cuban Italian personality
took over. I cussed at the judge, my ex and
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the witch attorney that I do take Did I do
take care of my children? I'm just tired of taking
care of their loser father. Hard way to find out
there's no First Amendment protection in front of a judge.
He called the bailiff and they took me away and
cuffs and shackles. I had never even skipped school. I
shared a cell with a prostitute and a woman in
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for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. I don't cuss
at authority anymore. I'malia. Amalia is a sweetheart. She married
to Santa Claus. They came on our Aspen trip last year. Betty,
what'd you end up in jail for?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, actually, my husband, but I until I could call
him to me about that. So forty plus years ago,
there was a out in Alvin, the dance hall called
Crystal Cowboy, and we all went out as as high
schoolers and there's older people there too as well. But anyway,
I was not dating my husband at that time. But
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he's a big guy. He's six foot four, just a big,
big guy. And I don't know what happened. I don't
think that he did anything, frankly, because he wasn't that kind.
But some guy, some Mexican guy, bumped him or something
and and then gave him a lip about it or something,
and I don't know. So they said let's go outside,
or he said let's go outside. So the guy goes
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outside and they're on this Callechi Drive area, the Crystal
Cowboy parking lot. The guy proceeds to get out of
pocket eye for a switchblade or something like that, and
some of them he didn't have anything at that time,
so he starts combing the rocks at him, just picking
up rocks this and that and anyway, longstret swords. The
police got him and took him both in, arrested both
of them and put him in the same sound. What's
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funny is because my you know, husband's like I said,
a big guy and this is a little little strunting
little guy. And he basically told him he better just
watch out. And my husband proceeded just to go to sleep,
and uh, he said, he woke up. The guys still
sitting on the edge, just sitting on the chair, just
sitting there. Well, just minded his business, keeping to himself.
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And so that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's a good story. You know, when I was growing up,
I was mildly obsessed with switchblade knives, any kind of
blades for that matter, if they were illicit illegal. I
got in trouble in seventh grade because I set up
an operation. I was selling Chinese stars. You could. It
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was some magazine I found him out of the back
of and I word three or so and for like
five dollars for three or something, and I was selling
them for ten dollars a piece in the bathroom during
the breaks. I don't know how long I expected this
was gonna work. Really didn't have the ability to scale
this business, but I was making a little cash and
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feeling pretty good about it. And I get called down
in mister Johnson's office. I have to hand over the
contraband and I take my licks literally and that was
the end of that thriving enterprise. It could have made
me famous and rich, but it didn't happen. But I
was always interested in switch blades. When I went down
to Costa Rica when I was eighteen, bought a switchblade there,
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carried it on me all the time, loved opening it. Oh.
Then I got into angel blades. Oh, it's hard to
get a good angel blade. That's where it comes out directly,
because a lot of them when they come out and
lock you so much as if you had to stab somebody,
you're in trouble because they break off. But a lot
of those are not any good, and then they don't
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reload on their own, and it's an imperfect process. They're
not really fixed. You need a fixed blade, at least
a fixed blade that pivots. And then they went and
made switchblades legal, and I lost interest in switchblades. You
can slug that segment switchblades. Jim John, you're on the
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Michael Berry Show. What landed you in jail?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Dancing on Crystal Beach and what happened so well? I
used just a little backstore. I used to go to
eighteen Mile Beach and dance there. I'd take a mattress
and lay out, and there was this big black cop.
I called him my friend, and he'd be John at
five o'clock and he'd go back to your car. I'd
be girls, don't want to talk to you, John, go
back to your car. I'm taking you to jail. So
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then that closed down, and I'm at Crystal Beach and
I don't know what happened. If paddy Wagon just came
and put me inside and took me to jail. And
I just remember calling my dad. He's he fogged for
mosquitos at night. He came and got me and went home,
and everything got dropped because I wasn't drunk. There was
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nothing there. I guess they just felt like taking me
to jail.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Your dad drove the mosquito truck.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Well in Houston. He would drive around, uh, fogging for mosquitos.
He was like the head guy for Cypress Creek.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It was back, you know, in the nineties. And so
luckily he was up going home and he came and
got me, and I didn't even have to spend the
night in jail. Just a handful of hours.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That might have been him. Rodney Crawl was singing about. Yeah, man,
I guessed to love when I was a kid when
the mosquito truck would come. That was good times, man,
that that was really Oh crap. I forgot to go
back to Mike. Jim. We lost, Mike. Don't let me
do that, Mike. If you're out there callback seven one, three, nine, nine, nine,
one thousand, I want to hear your first ree murder story. Joe,
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what landed you in jail?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
All right?
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I was in jail in Kentucky. Me and a buddy
mine had went up to Cincinnati and made a friend
of his and we was on the way back to Atlanta.
I went to Cincinnati and was on the way back
to Atlanta. We had taken to the Oilers, one of
the last Oilers games in Pulton County Stadium against the Falcons.
So we're on our way back and I wasn't drunk,
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but I was pretty hungover from the night before. And
I can't know what time it was in Kentucky. So
David had told me, he said, man, you need to
slow down. You're gonna get pulled on us. No, I'm
all right about one heel later, Man, here comes a
cop pulls me over rest me for DWI. I told David,
I said, go and take the truck going back to Atlanta,
and I'll meet you there when I get out of this.
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So I sat in the jail for three days, got out,
went in front of the judge. He goes, you don't
plan on coming back to Kentucky, doah? I said, no, sir,
So he cut me loose. So I started hitch hacking
down eighty five and I get into Atlanta. I've got
a couple of rides. I had about ten bucks in
my pocket. So I went off this exit and was
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walking to a store. And I stopped and I seen
a liquor store in a Shivron station, and I was
trying to figure out which one's gonna be cheaper. I
was gonna buy me a six pack of beer and
a fact of cigarettes. So as I'm standing there, I
looked behind me, and coming off the ramp, there was
a patrol car about five hundred yards away from me,
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just kind of easing down the road. So I said, okay, whatever,
So I kept walking toward the Chevron station, and I
got probably one hundred yards from the Chevron station, and
about three cop cars just converged on me, jumped out,
drew their guns on me. He said, get on the road.
So I got down on the road. They handcuffed me.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I reverd one.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I'm go damn it.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
We got him.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
So they threw me in the car and I'm like,
what in the world are y'all resting me for? They
didn't say nothing. So we drove about five miles off
the highway to some little town. They took me in
this police station, put me in a room, and they
come in there and they started questioning me. Where are
you being, where are you going? And all this will
come to find out. A little town before that, some
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two guys had roll.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
We gotta go to break. Let me hold and Mike, Mike,
stay there. I'm gonna come to you just a moment.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
This segment exclusively produced my Hawaiian Chad Nkanishi. Aloha bro
Ha The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
All right, we got Mike back, and I'm glad we do. Mike,
first degree murder, tell me about the charge.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
August twelfth of last year, a young man on the
drug called ice decided he wanted to bring a stick
to the gunfight. Will never work with this old man
seventy year old man in self defense shoots and kills
a man in the Walmart parking lot at six point
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thirty in the morning. They take me downtown. I checked out,
didn't have a record and warrants or anything. Detective interviews
me for an hour, redraws it on a sketch pad.
Where was this guy at? He was down in the ditch.
He came up. He was gonna beat my ass that morning,
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and I just said, not today, Satan, and pulled out
my Hinkley. My Hinkley is a twenty two Saturday Night special.
I'm a concealed handgun instructor by DPS. Well. They just
wouldn't believe me. They had photograph of where he dropped
the stick at from my front tire. I'm in my
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truck and I shot him. It was a twenty two.
He kept coming. I pulled the trigger. It misfired. I said,
oh hell, I pulled the trigger one more time and
it turned him around. He walked about fifteen feet in
front of my truck and face planted pretty clear. I
kept I watched too much TV. I kept waiting for
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one of the eighteen squad cars of SAPD to say sir,
you're free to go. Instead they handcuffed me. There was
a homeless woman that was going to come help straighten
up my storage. Turns out this kid on Ice in
his thirties and it was done. It's on the internet
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on the local news station here. Of both one. I
went in eighty two days later of pure hell. One
day at a time in Bear County Jail, they decided
at ten o'clock on November the first next week be
my anniversary. They called out who we thought was my cellmate.
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My public appointed attorney said her other client's been in
there two years waiting the same charge. So I couldn't
wrap my head around it until actually an inmate in
the jail came up to me and solved the problem.
Solved the whole what went on. The bigger mystery is
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I did have an attorney. In last June, he slid
off the face of the earth up at the Kerbville flooding.
He and his father had a ranch and Andy was going
to take care of this Sandy Laird. And that's my
biggest mystery. He has slid off the face of the earth.
I hope he's okay. But on Friday night at ten
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o'clock at night on November the first I get a call.
They said, we thought he said Patrick, my cellmate. He
went and got his stuff, walked out, came back fifteen
minutes later. He said, it's you charges dropped, lack of evidence.
What kind of evidence you guys need? You got the video,
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you said on the newscast. You looked at the video
with the Walmart cameras, and it turned out this person
was high on ice And I knew that. I told
my court appointed attorney talks ecology report, inventory report, I
knew a lot. I've been dealing with these homeless people
on the south side of San Antonio for the last
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couple of years. Well, I've tried to give the detectives
several chances to try and discuss why y'all got this wrong.
Totally wrong and totally I lit my world upside down.
And just now I'm getting back, you know, recovering from
that little mishap, misstep, and I'm on my way to
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the Philippines. I've been trying for several years to get
to the Philippines, and I got cleared last week. So
it took me twelve lawyers to get Andy, who was
familiar or knew somebody to handle a false imprisonment charge
against the county and the state. So if you got anybody,
I'm not interested in the money. I'm interested in somebody
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never having to go through the hell. And I've been
in the prison system with them without the keys, and
I've got a degree in criminal justice, and it's like,
you know, I don't see how this could be except
I had dealt with the detectives of SAPD earlier in
the year and they totally screwed up a simple steam case.
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And it's like realized that our chief of police came
from many apples. That's all I need to say. His
name is McManus, and I'm used to the detectives from
the sixties and the seventies. My family was very good
friends with some of the top detectives. And I've lost
a lot of respect for our current training and common
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sense more than anything. And there's a it's documented on there,
and I've got this reporter. Just let her know where
we are. And I've got one less than one year
left on the statue of limitations because they shouldn't be
able to just get away with this, and nobody just
you know, bad An eyelash. I had no big deal. Yeah,
it's a big deal. It cost me an e commerce
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business I had for twenty four years. Documented had put
a million dollars. And by the way, I want to
get back with you because I've got a product. I
would like for you and I to turn it over
to Camp Hope. If you can have somebody from Camp
Hope contact me. I've got a chili quick that makes
chili which is a state dish of Texas in thirty
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min minutes. And then we are getting into chili and
corn red season this very week in Texas. And you've
been on my mind this whole year of trying to
get you know, that handed off to them, so they've
got a perpetual income producer for the state of Texas.
And it's patterned after a product the most famous. Your
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mama probably used it in your aunt's Kebhart's chili powder,
and I was fortunate enough to be able to duplicate
that when they discontinued theirs. And if you're over on
San Antonio, I'd like for you to stop buy I
told you years ago, come over here and I'll show
you a puffy taco and mister Yabari is one of
my favorite persons that you talk to, and he and
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I come from the old school, and so it's like,
you know, so that's all right. I don't worry about it.
I've got a bigger mission. I'm going camping. I've been
camping my whole life, and I'm going to go give
it a whirl in the Philippine, in the jungles for camping.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So, Mike, what were you doing at the Walmart at
six thirty in the morning.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I had met a friend of mine at Bill Miller's
Carlos the evening before, and I needed a couple of tools,
like a saber saw, and he said I got to leave.
He said, I'll be at Walmart first thing in the morning.
I said how early? He said about six or six thirty.
And I picked up some coffee at water Burger. Homeless
girl walks off to me. It turns out this guy
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that was going to beat my ass. After I got
out and she came back around, I said, let me
ask you something on that morning. I didn't think you'd
have had to sing. I had two ice chests in
my front seat, and this young lady was like thirty
eight thirty nine years old, and she I just didn't
think he saw her. He was down in the ditch.
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Turned out he had threatened me back in May. And
that didn't make any sense that somebody just rode up
on a bike right on the poll.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
The King of Team continued on the Michael Ben.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Mike, Yes, sir, I have a question.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Yes, how come.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You knew the guy that was on ice that you
shot at six point thirty in the morning.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
The girl that was when he hollered at me from
the ditch. He looked like Bigfoot for me, had face
hair all down in front of his face. I looked
over to her, I said, who is that? She said,
that's light. I said that same pos that was giving
you a hard time a couple of weeks ago. She said, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And she's a homeless lady.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yes, from Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And how do you know her.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I've been dealing with the homeless for two years over
here on the South Side, helping people that need something
to hand up, hand out. And there was a settle
there's about six acres next to this walmart. It was woods,
ten to fifteen people living back there. They didn't have
a clue about camping. I mean the heat was killing them.
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This is July August of last year, and just taking
people ice water to this day, I go to Bill
Miller's here and get ice and go around during the
hottest part. And so that's what I've been assigned the
last couple of years, and it turned out where it's
been one of the most rewarding things I've ever done.
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And then for this guy, you know, and he was
definitely high on ice. I know who he got the
ice from. I knew what they could expect to find
in his backpack. And so it's like, well, you know,
like my sister says, you have the best chapters. It's like, yeah,
but I don't plan on them. That's just just the
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way it happened.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Now on the chili, is this a chili powder?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
It is what it is is. I was blessed to
have a part of Fiesta Spices over here in say Antonio.
Back in the day, we grew up with something called
geb Hearts or Mexine. All Texas families grew up with
one of those two chili powders. And it turns out
geb Hearts just continued. They were brought out by Conagar
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thirty years ago. Canagara wanted hunt Lesson and GiB Hearts
is still the most famous known chili powder. So I
took this by sheer accident. I've used these Fiesta spices
for forty years and I decided, well, let's just try
and make a batch of it. And all I do
is get it at a hotel price and blended in
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small batches. And there's no more three hours of babysitting
a pot of chili that can be done in thirty minutes.
And so I've tried. I had worked with a young
chef last year, hand off to him. It didn't work out,
and I decided, you know, there's a couple. This is
too good of a product not to be known. And
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I thought, you know, if you'll have somebody with camp
David get a hold of me, we'll get it coordinated
and I'll get them the armula of the whole bit.
And it's it's something that you know, It's just it's
a winner. There's no game. There's not a good can
Shelley out there. I tried Marie Calendars this week and
at three bucks a can, it's hard to distinguish the
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three pieces of meat that were in there, you know,
But it's something that can be done. You know. I'll
sent you a link over there and you got my
phone number now, and then you can google the news
story on the shooting and everything. Yeah, the perpetual. If
you want to talk about Tomlly's I've written a cookbook
twenty five years ago, Secrets to Cooking text Mex taught
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you years ago what makes refried beings great? And that's
the lord or the bacon grief.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's a lot to process, mate, I know a lot
of the process. You know. You reminded me of something
with that spice recipe. Every couple of years, I'll see
this mean that's a picture of a bottle of a
one steak sauce, and just above the A one it's
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a period or a dot one dot, a period, one dot,
and just above that in small letters, it says e St.
Eighteen sixty two, Established eighteen sixty two. And there's a
meme that I'll see once every year or two and
it says, right in the middle of a Civil war,
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somebody said, oh, you know what, we need a steak sauce.
And I've always thought that really is crazy, isn't it.
I bet you it's a provisions company that was making
provisions for the Union soldiers because the South didn't have
a money. So I went and looked it up this weekend.
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Lo and behold. The reason a one steak sauce was
established in the middle of the Civil War is it wasn't.
But even if it was, it's English. Was actually started
in eighteen thirty one, started by a guy, and then
it gets sold. They use the date of eighteen sixty two,
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but that's not the accurate date of the sauce itself.
And then the sauce comes over to the United States
much later, like I think eighteen nineties. And the thing
about it is I hadn't eaten a one steak sauce
in forever. And one night Russell Lebar and I met
for dinner at Papa Steakhouse and he asked them to
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bring him a Ramican the little silver you know like
Aladdins now of a one steak sauce. And the guy said, oh,
I'm sorry, we don't have that. Russell said, well, I
don't want to be unpleasant here, but I'm the customer
and I'm requesting it, and you do have it. No, sure,
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we don't. Let's I tell you what why don't you
ask your manager to come out and I'll tell him
where it is. I have toured your kitchen. I'm friends
with Chris Pappus, and I'm not trying to cause a
scene here, but I really like a one steak sauce.
First he asked for a one They said we don't
have it, and he said, yeah, you do. I always
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get it, and it's not a big deal. Not trying
to embarrass you or cause the problems. So eventually they
bring the a one steak cut sauce out and a
silver Remican, so you don't know what's in it because
they're embarrassed to serve a one steak sauce. And so
we had a good laugh about it, and I hadn't
eaten it in forever anybody. A year later, I don't
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know what what was the reason there was some a
one steak sauce. I must have been eating some cheap
Mexican steak, you know, like if you go to Roucci's
there's a couple of them around time. It's a real
cheap skirt steak wherever I was. Whatever the reason, maybe
it was a Hamburger steak, it was just a or
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cube stak, just a patty or something. I don't know,
but there was some A one there, and so I
poured a little out on the side there, and I
forgot how much I love it. It's really really good
as a steak sauce, just as a sauce for anything.
In fact, I think it's better than Worcester Sire, I
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really do so. Anyway, I looked up the ingredients. Let's
see here, I got it here. It's got all sorts
of cool stuff in it. You would not expect, Jim,
do you know what goes on into a A one? We
might as well being chobren just everything else. Let's see tomatoes, garlic,
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crushed oranges, and an intricate mix of spices. Oh, don't
give me that hold on the side. Let me see
this thing's got it over here. Let's see tomato pure
water and tomato paste, high fruit toase, corn syrup. I
don't need that vinegar, corn syrup. Raisin paste. Who would
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think about raisin paste. I'm gonna get a bunch of emails, Michael.
Raisin paste goes into forty three different things. Here's here's
raising well. I didn't know, Michael, how could you raisin paste?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We use?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I use razor. I've used raisin pa my grandmother there
it is niche wide, Eddie Martini writes. Eddie Martini writes,
I love a one steak sauce. What makes it great
is the xanthem gum as a thickener. I wonder if
you lose your coon ass card for saying like a one, right?
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Doesn't that feel like something bit that would cost you
your coon ass card? You think, right, you'd have you'd
be required to like because you know there's a coon
ass product that they will say, Oh, slappy, Marma, this
is a one. There has to be. I mean, I
don't know what. I don't know what the competitor would be,
but all right, what land did you in jail? Before
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we get to that, a word from our sponsor, the
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replacing his backwards hat, which was the ad he's been
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there down on the border. Hey, I like Mexican's around here.
We haven't seen any Okay, let me know. I'm on
the border now. You notice I got my ball cap
turn backwards, right, Yeah, that's how you know I mean business. Yep.
Going to a Morgan Walling concert later, I got my
cap turns backwards. Yep. I'm down here on the border. Hey, Mexicans,
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y'all still there? Senior center right here, real Texan. Well,
he's traded in his backwards cap for some camo and
he's here to tell you he's a real Taxan, a
man he hunts and gathers just like you.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
John Wayne mccarnin. He's one of us getting ready for
deer season, with a media crew close by to document
his every move. He's a multitasker, loading both his Grandpappy's
rifle and a big dip in his mouth, because, by golly,
that's what he's told Texans do, and he's ready for
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deer hunting season the back forty, just like one of us. Heck,
in nineteen eighty four he hunted shoulder to shoulder and
the deer blind with Donald J.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Trump.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
And he has the two dozen thirteen by twenty four
giant picture frames pepper throughout his hunting cabin to prove it. Why.
Just last year, John Wayne mcconny shot a fifteen point buck,
had his ranch hands field dress it, and personally asked
his thirteen assistants to ship that sweet backstrap meat directly
to Donald J. Trump, all while listening to Waylon Jennings'
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laratest tits. He's just like one of us, John Wayne mccornyy,
a man working so hard to be a man of
the people.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Mcconne, All right, we gotta be quick. What land did
you in jail? Cody go?
Speaker 8 (27:51):
This is actually a story about my grandpa. He back
in the late nineties, maybe early two thousands, he had
a hunting cabin out in bass Drop and showed up
there one day and somebody had broke in, stole everything,
all the food, the ovens, the little cooking stove. He
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had his TV, so he uh restocked everything, had to
buy all new equipment to put in his cabin. And
then he decided to wire up a four to ten
shotgun close to the door for the next time if
the person came back to try to steal anything else. Well,
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it turns out there's laws against setting booby traps. Yeah,
so when this guy got a he got a load
of birds shot in his legs when next time he
came through.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Your grandfather's last name is not CatCo, is it?
Speaker 8 (28:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Okay, there's a famous case. Every every ut law student
studied it in Torts. First year CATCOA and he set
a spring gun. He had a hunting cabin. He got
tired of it being broken into, and so he sets
a spring gun and somebody breaks into his cabin and
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it shoots him. And the question was is it reasonable
to set up a system where there is no discretion used?
Because someone could have a police officer could have believed
that someone was inside and needed help, they would have
gotten shot her firefighter? Was that was the standard? Anyway?
What was a reasonable action for cat Co to take?
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And I think cat Co lost that tape. I think
it was in Torts. So I don't think it was
actually criminal. If I recall correctly, Rich, what got you
landed in jail?
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Go?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I was bartending on North Gate when I was going
to Texas A and M most nights, my shirt always
came off, and if I broke out, I dumped the bar.
I grabbed a guy and started dragging him out as
his chubby girlfriend was hitting me in the head with
a shoe. As soon as I get one foot outside
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the bar with that guy, I get pepper sprayed, maced.
I get down on all fours, try to crawl back
into the bar. They grab my belt, arrest me, take
a polaroid picture, take all my items, staple the polaroid
picture of the bag, take me down, and then I
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get mailed out by the owner of the bar. The
police reports that I was hitting the person I brought
out of the bar. I told him I had video,
brought the video up and they said, oh, well, I
guess it was a mistake. But the worst part about
it is if you ever do get maced, do not
go to the restroom and touch your winger because that hurts.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Oh oh wow, is that what you did?
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And water does not make it go away. It actually
makes it burn more.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
How long did it burn?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Oh Man? Throughout the entire evening and every time I
took a shower for the next week.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
You're willy or your eyes.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
On my face mostly?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, good thing you didn't wipe your bum hunh.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, I don't think I was going to touch that
after I felt the heat on my pecker.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I've never been maced pepper sprayed, but I have heard
from people who have it is some kind of not pleasant.
I like to try bear spray on something at some point.
When I'm hiking in Colorado, I carry bear spray, and
I'm like a kid. My brother used to say this.
He never wanted me to buy a new gun because
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he said, you you are not a responsible person to
have a gun. You don't need to be carrying a
gun because when I carry my bear mace, I keep
waiting on a bear to come up on me because
I want to try out my bear mace, right, And
so I bought one. I bought one just to see,
you know what the stream looks like. I'm the guy
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that loves Bengal spray, the wasp spray. I don't know
how raid stays in business. Bengal is one hundred times better.
But you put bingo near a roach or what anything.
Bengal kills everything. I love to spray Bengal and kill stuff,
and I don't want to kill a bear. I love bears,
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but I've bought can you know, just see how long this?
But I would like a bear to just come ambling
up and me hit him with it, just so I
know what it does. Probably not a good strategy, but
I'm just I'm being honest. You don't have to email
me and tell me how stupid it is. I know
you know, you don't win a prize for you know,
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intelligence for that opinion. I'm being honest, right, This was
today was the Circle of Trust
Molli writes, my big mouth got me a contempt of
court charge. Spent three nights in Bear County three months
later on my child support to the sperm donor ex husband.
We had joint custody, but he had a snake for
a lawyer. When Judge David Peeples asked me why I
didn't want to support my children, my Cuban Italian personality
took over. I cussed at the judge, my ex and
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the witch attorney that I do take Did I do
take care of my children? I'm just tired of taking
care of their loser father. Hard way to find out
there's no First Amendment protection in front of a judge.
He called the bailiff and they took me away and
cuffs and shackles. I had never even skipped school. I
shared a cell with a prostitute and a woman in
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for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. I don't cuss
at authority anymore. I'malia. Amalia is a sweetheart. She married
to Santa Claus. They came on our Aspen trip last year. Betty,
what'd you end up in jail for?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, actually, my husband, but I until I could call
him to me about that. So forty plus years ago,
there was a out in Alvin, the dance hall called
Crystal Cowboy, and we all went out as as high
schoolers and there's older people there too as well. But anyway,
I was not dating my husband at that time. But
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he's a big guy. He's six foot four, just a big,
big guy. And I don't know what happened. I don't
think that he did anything, frankly, because he wasn't that kind.
But some guy, some Mexican guy, bumped him or something
and and then gave him a lip about it or something,
and I don't know. So they said let's go outside,
or he said let's go outside. So the guy goes
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outside and they're on this Callechi Drive area, the Crystal
Cowboy parking lot. The guy proceeds to get out of
pocket eye for a switchblade or something like that, and
some of them he didn't have anything at that time,
so he starts combing the rocks at him, just picking
up rocks this and that and anyway, longstret swords. The
police got him and took him both in, arrested both
of them and put him in the same sound. What's
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funny is because my you know, husband's like I said,
a big guy and this is a little little strunting
little guy. And he basically told him he better just
watch out. And my husband proceeded just to go to sleep,
and uh, he said, he woke up. The guys still
sitting on the edge, just sitting on the chair, just
sitting there. Well, just minded his business, keeping to himself.
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And so that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's a good story. You know, when I was growing up,
I was mildly obsessed with switchblade knives, any kind of
blades for that matter, if they were illicit illegal. I
got in trouble in seventh grade because I set up
an operation. I was selling Chinese stars. You could. It
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was some magazine I found him out of the back
of and I word three or so and for like
five dollars for three or something, and I was selling
them for ten dollars a piece in the bathroom during
the breaks. I don't know how long I expected this
was gonna work. Really didn't have the ability to scale
this business, but I was making a little cash and
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feeling pretty good about it. And I get called down
in mister Johnson's office. I have to hand over the
contraband and I take my licks literally and that was
the end of that thriving enterprise. It could have made
me famous and rich, but it didn't happen. But I
was always interested in switch blades. When I went down
to Costa Rica when I was eighteen, bought a switchblade there,
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carried it on me all the time, loved opening it. Oh.
Then I got into angel blades. Oh, it's hard to
get a good angel blade. That's where it comes out directly,
because a lot of them when they come out and
lock you so much as if you had to stab somebody,
you're in trouble because they break off. But a lot
of those are not any good, and then they don't
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reload on their own, and it's an imperfect process. They're
not really fixed. You need a fixed blade, at least
a fixed blade that pivots. And then they went and
made switchblades legal, and I lost interest in switchblades. You
can slug that segment switchblades. Jim John, you're on the
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Michael Berry Show. What landed you in jail?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Dancing on Crystal Beach and what happened so well? I
used just a little backstore. I used to go to
eighteen Mile Beach and dance there. I'd take a mattress
and lay out, and there was this big black cop.
I called him my friend, and he'd be John at
five o'clock and he'd go back to your car. I'd
be girls, don't want to talk to you, John, go
back to your car. I'm taking you to jail. So
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then that closed down, and I'm at Crystal Beach and
I don't know what happened. If paddy Wagon just came
and put me inside and took me to jail. And
I just remember calling my dad. He's he fogged for
mosquitos at night. He came and got me and went home,
and everything got dropped because I wasn't drunk. There was
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nothing there. I guess they just felt like taking me
to jail.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Your dad drove the mosquito truck.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Well in Houston. He would drive around, uh, fogging for mosquitos.
He was like the head guy for Cypress Creek.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It was back, you know, in the nineties. And so
luckily he was up going home and he came and
got me, and I didn't even have to spend the
night in jail. Just a handful of hours.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That might have been him. Rodney Crawl was singing about. Yeah, man,
I guessed to love when I was a kid when
the mosquito truck would come. That was good times, man,
that that was really Oh crap. I forgot to go
back to Mike. Jim. We lost, Mike. Don't let me
do that, Mike. If you're out there callback seven one, three, nine, nine, nine,
one thousand, I want to hear your first ree murder story. Joe,
(05:44):
what landed you in jail?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
All right?
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I was in jail in Kentucky. Me and a buddy
mine had went up to Cincinnati and made a friend
of his and we was on the way back to Atlanta.
I went to Cincinnati and was on the way back
to Atlanta. We had taken to the Oilers, one of
the last Oilers games in Pulton County Stadium against the Falcons.
So we're on our way back and I wasn't drunk,
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but I was pretty hungover from the night before. And
I can't know what time it was in Kentucky. So
David had told me, he said, man, you need to
slow down. You're gonna get pulled on us. No, I'm
all right about one heel later, Man, here comes a
cop pulls me over rest me for DWI. I told David,
I said, go and take the truck going back to Atlanta,
and I'll meet you there when I get out of this.
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So I sat in the jail for three days, got out,
went in front of the judge. He goes, you don't
plan on coming back to Kentucky, doah? I said, no, sir,
So he cut me loose. So I started hitch hacking
down eighty five and I get into Atlanta. I've got
a couple of rides. I had about ten bucks in
my pocket. So I went off this exit and was
(06:52):
walking to a store. And I stopped and I seen
a liquor store in a Shivron station, and I was
trying to figure out which one's gonna be cheaper. I
was gonna buy me a six pack of beer and
a fact of cigarettes. So as I'm standing there, I
looked behind me, and coming off the ramp, there was
a patrol car about five hundred yards away from me,
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just kind of easing down the road. So I said, okay, whatever,
So I kept walking toward the Chevron station, and I
got probably one hundred yards from the Chevron station, and
about three cop cars just converged on me, jumped out,
drew their guns on me. He said, get on the road.
So I got down on the road. They handcuffed me.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I reverd one.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I'm go damn it.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
We got him.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
So they threw me in the car and I'm like,
what in the world are y'all resting me for? They
didn't say nothing. So we drove about five miles off
the highway to some little town. They took me in
this police station, put me in a room, and they
come in there and they started questioning me. Where are
you being, where are you going? And all this will
come to find out. A little town before that, some
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two guys had roll.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
We gotta go to break. Let me hold and Mike, Mike,
stay there. I'm gonna come to you just a moment.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
This segment exclusively produced my Hawaiian Chad Nkanishi. Aloha bro
Ha The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
All right, we got Mike back, and I'm glad we do. Mike,
first degree murder, tell me about the charge.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
August twelfth of last year, a young man on the
drug called ice decided he wanted to bring a stick
to the gunfight. Will never work with this old man
seventy year old man in self defense shoots and kills
a man in the Walmart parking lot at six point
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thirty in the morning. They take me downtown. I checked out,
didn't have a record and warrants or anything. Detective interviews
me for an hour, redraws it on a sketch pad.
Where was this guy at? He was down in the ditch.
He came up. He was gonna beat my ass that morning,
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and I just said, not today, Satan, and pulled out
my Hinkley. My Hinkley is a twenty two Saturday Night special.
I'm a concealed handgun instructor by DPS. Well. They just
wouldn't believe me. They had photograph of where he dropped
the stick at from my front tire. I'm in my
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truck and I shot him. It was a twenty two.
He kept coming. I pulled the trigger. It misfired. I said,
oh hell, I pulled the trigger one more time and
it turned him around. He walked about fifteen feet in
front of my truck and face planted pretty clear. I
kept I watched too much TV. I kept waiting for
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one of the eighteen squad cars of SAPD to say sir,
you're free to go. Instead they handcuffed me. There was
a homeless woman that was going to come help straighten
up my storage. Turns out this kid on Ice in
his thirties and it was done. It's on the internet
(10:06):
on the local news station here. Of both one. I
went in eighty two days later of pure hell. One
day at a time in Bear County Jail, they decided
at ten o'clock on November the first next week be
my anniversary. They called out who we thought was my cellmate.
(10:26):
My public appointed attorney said her other client's been in
there two years waiting the same charge. So I couldn't
wrap my head around it until actually an inmate in
the jail came up to me and solved the problem.
Solved the whole what went on. The bigger mystery is
(10:47):
I did have an attorney. In last June, he slid
off the face of the earth up at the Kerbville flooding.
He and his father had a ranch and Andy was going
to take care of this Sandy Laird. And that's my
biggest mystery. He has slid off the face of the earth.
I hope he's okay. But on Friday night at ten
(11:08):
o'clock at night on November the first I get a call.
They said, we thought he said Patrick, my cellmate. He
went and got his stuff, walked out, came back fifteen
minutes later. He said, it's you charges dropped, lack of evidence.
What kind of evidence you guys need? You got the video,
(11:28):
you said on the newscast. You looked at the video
with the Walmart cameras, and it turned out this person
was high on ice And I knew that. I told
my court appointed attorney talks ecology report, inventory report, I
knew a lot. I've been dealing with these homeless people
on the south side of San Antonio for the last
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couple of years. Well, I've tried to give the detectives
several chances to try and discuss why y'all got this wrong.
Totally wrong and totally I lit my world upside down.
And just now I'm getting back, you know, recovering from
that little mishap, misstep, and I'm on my way to
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the Philippines. I've been trying for several years to get
to the Philippines, and I got cleared last week. So
it took me twelve lawyers to get Andy, who was
familiar or knew somebody to handle a false imprisonment charge
against the county and the state. So if you got anybody,
I'm not interested in the money. I'm interested in somebody
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never having to go through the hell. And I've been
in the prison system with them without the keys, and
I've got a degree in criminal justice, and it's like,
you know, I don't see how this could be except
I had dealt with the detectives of SAPD earlier in
the year and they totally screwed up a simple steam case.
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And it's like realized that our chief of police came
from many apples. That's all I need to say. His
name is McManus, and I'm used to the detectives from
the sixties and the seventies. My family was very good
friends with some of the top detectives. And I've lost
a lot of respect for our current training and common
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sense more than anything. And there's a it's documented on there,
and I've got this reporter. Just let her know where
we are. And I've got one less than one year
left on the statue of limitations because they shouldn't be
able to just get away with this, and nobody just
you know, bad An eyelash. I had no big deal. Yeah,
it's a big deal. It cost me an e commerce
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business I had for twenty four years. Documented had put
a million dollars. And by the way, I want to
get back with you because I've got a product. I
would like for you and I to turn it over
to Camp Hope. If you can have somebody from Camp
Hope contact me. I've got a chili quick that makes
chili which is a state dish of Texas in thirty
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min minutes. And then we are getting into chili and
corn red season this very week in Texas. And you've
been on my mind this whole year of trying to
get you know, that handed off to them, so they've
got a perpetual income producer for the state of Texas.
And it's patterned after a product the most famous. Your
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mama probably used it in your aunt's Kebhart's chili powder,
and I was fortunate enough to be able to duplicate
that when they discontinued theirs. And if you're over on
San Antonio, I'd like for you to stop buy I
told you years ago, come over here and I'll show
you a puffy taco and mister Yabari is one of
my favorite persons that you talk to, and he and
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I come from the old school, and so it's like,
you know, so that's all right. I don't worry about it.
I've got a bigger mission. I'm going camping. I've been
camping my whole life, and I'm going to go give
it a whirl in the Philippine, in the jungles for camping.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So, Mike, what were you doing at the Walmart at
six thirty in the morning.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I had met a friend of mine at Bill Miller's
Carlos the evening before, and I needed a couple of tools,
like a saber saw, and he said I got to leave.
He said, I'll be at Walmart first thing in the morning.
I said how early? He said about six or six thirty.
And I picked up some coffee at water Burger. Homeless
girl walks off to me. It turns out this guy
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that was going to beat my ass. After I got
out and she came back around, I said, let me
ask you something on that morning. I didn't think you'd
have had to sing. I had two ice chests in
my front seat, and this young lady was like thirty
eight thirty nine years old, and she I just didn't
think he saw her. He was down in the ditch.
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Turned out he had threatened me back in May. And
that didn't make any sense that somebody just rode up
on a bike right on the poll.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
The King of Team continued on the Michael Ben.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Mike, Yes, sir, I have a question.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Yes, how come.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You knew the guy that was on ice that you
shot at six point thirty in the morning.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
The girl that was when he hollered at me from
the ditch. He looked like Bigfoot for me, had face
hair all down in front of his face. I looked
over to her, I said, who is that? She said,
that's light. I said that same pos that was giving
you a hard time a couple of weeks ago. She said, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And she's a homeless lady.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
Yes, from Mississippi.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And how do you know her.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I've been dealing with the homeless for two years over
here on the South Side, helping people that need something
to hand up, hand out. And there was a settle
there's about six acres next to this walmart. It was woods,
ten to fifteen people living back there. They didn't have
a clue about camping. I mean the heat was killing them.
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This is July August of last year, and just taking
people ice water to this day, I go to Bill
Miller's here and get ice and go around during the
hottest part. And so that's what I've been assigned the
last couple of years, and it turned out where it's
been one of the most rewarding things I've ever done.
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And then for this guy, you know, and he was
definitely high on ice. I know who he got the
ice from. I knew what they could expect to find
in his backpack. And so it's like, well, you know,
like my sister says, you have the best chapters. It's like, yeah,
but I don't plan on them. That's just just the
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way it happened.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Now on the chili, is this a chili powder?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
It is what it is is. I was blessed to
have a part of Fiesta Spices over here in say Antonio.
Back in the day, we grew up with something called
geb Hearts or Mexine. All Texas families grew up with
one of those two chili powders. And it turns out
geb Hearts just continued. They were brought out by Conagar
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thirty years ago. Canagara wanted hunt Lesson and GiB Hearts
is still the most famous known chili powder. So I
took this by sheer accident. I've used these Fiesta spices
for forty years and I decided, well, let's just try
and make a batch of it. And all I do
is get it at a hotel price and blended in
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small batches. And there's no more three hours of babysitting
a pot of chili that can be done in thirty minutes.
And so I've tried. I had worked with a young
chef last year, hand off to him. It didn't work out,
and I decided, you know, there's a couple. This is
too good of a product not to be known. And
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I thought, you know, if you'll have somebody with camp
David get a hold of me, we'll get it coordinated
and I'll get them the armula of the whole bit.
And it's it's something that you know, It's just it's
a winner. There's no game. There's not a good can
Shelley out there. I tried Marie Calendars this week and
at three bucks a can, it's hard to distinguish the
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three pieces of meat that were in there, you know,
But it's something that can be done. You know. I'll
sent you a link over there and you got my
phone number now, and then you can google the news
story on the shooting and everything. Yeah, the perpetual. If
you want to talk about Tomlly's I've written a cookbook
twenty five years ago, Secrets to Cooking text Mex taught
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you years ago what makes refried beings great? And that's
the lord or the bacon grief.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's a lot to process, mate, I know a lot
of the process. You know. You reminded me of something
with that spice recipe. Every couple of years, I'll see
this mean that's a picture of a bottle of a
one steak sauce, and just above the A one it's
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a period or a dot one dot, a period, one dot,
and just above that in small letters, it says e St.
Eighteen sixty two, Established eighteen sixty two. And there's a
meme that I'll see once every year or two and
it says, right in the middle of a Civil war,
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somebody said, oh, you know what, we need a steak sauce.
And I've always thought that really is crazy, isn't it.
I bet you it's a provisions company that was making
provisions for the Union soldiers because the South didn't have
a money. So I went and looked it up this weekend.
(20:56):
Lo and behold. The reason a one steak sauce was
established in the middle of the Civil War is it wasn't.
But even if it was, it's English. Was actually started
in eighteen thirty one, started by a guy, and then
it gets sold. They use the date of eighteen sixty two,
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but that's not the accurate date of the sauce itself.
And then the sauce comes over to the United States
much later, like I think eighteen nineties. And the thing
about it is I hadn't eaten a one steak sauce
in forever. And one night Russell Lebar and I met
for dinner at Papa Steakhouse and he asked them to
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bring him a Ramican the little silver you know like
Aladdins now of a one steak sauce. And the guy said, oh,
I'm sorry, we don't have that. Russell said, well, I
don't want to be unpleasant here, but I'm the customer
and I'm requesting it, and you do have it. No, sure,
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we don't. Let's I tell you what why don't you
ask your manager to come out and I'll tell him
where it is. I have toured your kitchen. I'm friends
with Chris Pappus, and I'm not trying to cause a
scene here, but I really like a one steak sauce.
First he asked for a one They said we don't
have it, and he said, yeah, you do. I always
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get it, and it's not a big deal. Not trying
to embarrass you or cause the problems. So eventually they
bring the a one steak cut sauce out and a
silver Remican, so you don't know what's in it because
they're embarrassed to serve a one steak sauce. And so
we had a good laugh about it, and I hadn't
eaten it in forever anybody. A year later, I don't
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know what what was the reason there was some a
one steak sauce. I must have been eating some cheap
Mexican steak, you know, like if you go to Roucci's
there's a couple of them around time. It's a real
cheap skirt steak wherever I was. Whatever the reason, maybe
it was a Hamburger steak, it was just a or
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cube stak, just a patty or something. I don't know,
but there was some A one there, and so I
poured a little out on the side there, and I
forgot how much I love it. It's really really good
as a steak sauce, just as a sauce for anything.
In fact, I think it's better than Worcester Sire, I
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really do so. Anyway, I looked up the ingredients. Let's
see here, I got it here. It's got all sorts
of cool stuff in it. You would not expect, Jim,
do you know what goes on into a A one? We
might as well being chobren just everything else. Let's see tomatoes, garlic,
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crushed oranges, and an intricate mix of spices. Oh, don't
give me that hold on the side. Let me see
this thing's got it over here. Let's see tomato pure
water and tomato paste, high fruit toase, corn syrup. I
don't need that vinegar, corn syrup. Raisin paste. Who would
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think about raisin paste. I'm gonna get a bunch of emails, Michael.
Raisin paste goes into forty three different things. Here's here's
raising well. I didn't know, Michael, how could you raisin paste?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We use?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I use razor. I've used raisin pa my grandmother there
it is niche wide, Eddie Martini writes. Eddie Martini writes,
I love a one steak sauce. What makes it great
is the xanthem gum as a thickener. I wonder if
you lose your coon ass card for saying like a one, right?
(24:48):
Doesn't that feel like something bit that would cost you
your coon ass card? You think, right, you'd have you'd
be required to like because you know there's a coon
ass product that they will say, Oh, slappy, Marma, this
is a one. There has to be. I mean, I
don't know what. I don't know what the competitor would be,
but all right, what land did you in jail? Before
(25:10):
we get to that, a word from our sponsor, the
senior senator of the state of Texas, who last year
called for Donald Trump not to run for reelection, told
the Republican Party to move on past him and held
a press conference where he told members of the press
that Donald Trump has passed his prime and should not
run and the party should not choose him. But now
(25:31):
a matter of months later, he tells us that they're
working side by side and best friends and you know,
just god, they boy, they are. They are the best
of buds. And and you should send him back because
because they're the they're the best of buds. Well, it's
deer season upon us, and old John Wayne mccorny is
replacing his backwards hat, which was the ad he's been
(25:55):
there down on the border. Hey, I like Mexican's around here.
We haven't seen any Okay, let me know. I'm on
the border now. You notice I got my ball cap
turn backwards, right, Yeah, that's how you know I mean business. Yep.
Going to a Morgan Walling concert later, I got my
cap turns backwards. Yep. I'm down here on the border. Hey, Mexicans,
(26:19):
y'all still there? Senior center right here, real Texan. Well,
he's traded in his backwards cap for some camo and
he's here to tell you he's a real Taxan, a
man he hunts and gathers just like you.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
John Wayne mccarnin. He's one of us getting ready for
deer season, with a media crew close by to document
his every move. He's a multitasker, loading both his Grandpappy's
rifle and a big dip in his mouth, because, by golly,
that's what he's told Texans do, and he's ready for
(26:58):
deer hunting season the back forty, just like one of us. Heck,
in nineteen eighty four he hunted shoulder to shoulder and
the deer blind with Donald J.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Trump.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
And he has the two dozen thirteen by twenty four
giant picture frames pepper throughout his hunting cabin to prove it. Why.
Just last year, John Wayne mcconny shot a fifteen point buck,
had his ranch hands field dress it, and personally asked
his thirteen assistants to ship that sweet backstrap meat directly
to Donald J. Trump, all while listening to Waylon Jennings'
(27:30):
laratest tits. He's just like one of us, John Wayne mccornyy,
a man working so hard to be a man of
the people.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Mcconne, All right, we gotta be quick. What land did
you in jail? Cody go?
Speaker 8 (27:51):
This is actually a story about my grandpa. He back
in the late nineties, maybe early two thousands, he had
a hunting cabin out in bass Drop and showed up
there one day and somebody had broke in, stole everything,
all the food, the ovens, the little cooking stove. He
(28:13):
had his TV, so he uh restocked everything, had to
buy all new equipment to put in his cabin. And
then he decided to wire up a four to ten
shotgun close to the door for the next time if
the person came back to try to steal anything else. Well,
(28:34):
it turns out there's laws against setting booby traps. Yeah,
so when this guy got a he got a load
of birds shot in his legs when next time he
came through.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Your grandfather's last name is not CatCo, is it?
Speaker 8 (28:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Okay, there's a famous case. Every every ut law student
studied it in Torts. First year CATCOA and he set
a spring gun. He had a hunting cabin. He got
tired of it being broken into, and so he sets
a spring gun and somebody breaks into his cabin and
(29:12):
it shoots him. And the question was is it reasonable
to set up a system where there is no discretion used?
Because someone could have a police officer could have believed
that someone was inside and needed help, they would have
gotten shot her firefighter? Was that was the standard? Anyway?
What was a reasonable action for cat Co to take?
(29:34):
And I think cat Co lost that tape. I think
it was in Torts. So I don't think it was
actually criminal. If I recall correctly, Rich, what got you
landed in jail?
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Go?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I was bartending on North Gate when I was going
to Texas A and M most nights, my shirt always
came off, and if I broke out, I dumped the bar.
I grabbed a guy and started dragging him out as
his chubby girlfriend was hitting me in the head with
a shoe. As soon as I get one foot outside
(30:05):
the bar with that guy, I get pepper sprayed, maced.
I get down on all fours, try to crawl back
into the bar. They grab my belt, arrest me, take
a polaroid picture, take all my items, staple the polaroid
picture of the bag, take me down, and then I
(30:25):
get mailed out by the owner of the bar. The
police reports that I was hitting the person I brought
out of the bar. I told him I had video,
brought the video up and they said, oh, well, I
guess it was a mistake. But the worst part about
it is if you ever do get maced, do not
go to the restroom and touch your winger because that hurts.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Oh oh wow, is that what you did?
Speaker 7 (30:54):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And water does not make it go away. It actually
makes it burn more.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
How long did it burn?
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Oh Man? Throughout the entire evening and every time I
took a shower for the next week.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
You're willy or your eyes.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
On my face mostly?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, good thing you didn't wipe your bum hunh.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, I don't think I was going to touch that
after I felt the heat on my pecker.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I've never been maced pepper sprayed, but I have heard
from people who have it is some kind of not pleasant.
I like to try bear spray on something at some point.
When I'm hiking in Colorado, I carry bear spray, and
I'm like a kid. My brother used to say this.
He never wanted me to buy a new gun because
(31:40):
he said, you you are not a responsible person to
have a gun. You don't need to be carrying a
gun because when I carry my bear mace, I keep
waiting on a bear to come up on me because
I want to try out my bear mace, right, And
so I bought one. I bought one just to see,
you know what the stream looks like. I'm the guy
(32:02):
that loves Bengal spray, the wasp spray. I don't know
how raid stays in business. Bengal is one hundred times better.
But you put bingo near a roach or what anything.
Bengal kills everything. I love to spray Bengal and kill stuff,
and I don't want to kill a bear. I love bears,
(32:23):
but I've bought can you know, just see how long this?
But I would like a bear to just come ambling
up and me hit him with it, just so I
know what it does. Probably not a good strategy, but
I'm just I'm being honest. You don't have to email
me and tell me how stupid it is. I know
you know, you don't win a prize for you know,
(32:47):
intelligence for that opinion. I'm being honest, right, This was
today was the Circle of Trust
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