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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load till
Michael Very Show is.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
On the air.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I have all Americans. I'm proved to tell you today
that that's timed legislation without law Russia forever. We'll begin
bombing in five minutes.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
If I get to like it.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Someone made around.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I noticed when you get to dislike and someone standing
around for a long name.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Guy's got a.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Lot of pickup. It's got a cop motor, a four
hundred and forty cubic inch plant. It's got cop tires,
cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters,
so it'll run good on regular gus. What do you say,
is that the new bluesmobile or one thanks a cigarette lader.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I sure appreciate it, sir, if you could find it
in your heart to hang him up by his neck
until he was digging.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Boy escalated quickly.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
I was just explaining to your better head have here
that when we were tunneling out we happened at the
main sewer line.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Dumb luck that and we followed that.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Busted out of jam no man pop.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
We released her has on our own recognition.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I wouldn't know who Akira of the down Is. But
Chad listens to him, I think when he's working out,
and he puts these beats under things that are just magical.
And I guess a couple of years ago Chad shared
with me at some point Joe Rogan had done a

(01:47):
I don't know if it's a graduation speech or just
him giving advice with a bed of cure of the
don And since we're on the subject of life advice,
the reason we chose this one out of everything else
we could share is I like the concept of taking

(02:10):
paths that frighten you, taking paths that others criticize. I've
watched so many people be successful, and it's amazing to
me how many people, it seems, wish them to fail.
It's a crazy thing. My mother was very, very risk averse,

(02:34):
very risk averse. She didn't believe in taking chances, but
she didn't dare say anything. When I left practicing law
and started my own real estate company. She didn't dare
say anything because she knew I'd lose my mind. But
my dad did, and my dad is he He did
it in a question. So you left that salary to

(03:01):
just start a by yourself. The companies by yourself, and
so you won't you won't make a salary anymore, No, sir,
so you might not make anything correct. I mean, I
don't know what point you know, going on in law
degrees in England and all those years you did all that,

(03:22):
If you're just gonna do this, I know I understand.
And he didn't mean ill. He loves his baby boy.
He wanted the best for me. He was scared. Most
people are frightened to take chances. Doesn't make them bad,
and especially once you have kids and you're married and
other people are relying, it's harder and harder. When you're young,

(03:44):
it is, it is easier. It's it's you. I tell
folks this all the time. You get locked into those
golden handcuffs. You'll never get out anyway. So this I
think there's some good advice barried here.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
The opportunity takes place usually when you're young and you
don't have any responsibility. Does when you have your options, well,
your options are severely limited.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
The more you gather responsibilities, Like if I.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Had actually as a fifty one year old father of three,
three married man, he's taxes as a house and mortgage in.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
A business and all that jazz. If I had to
quit everything now.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
And struggle the rest, struggled as a stand up comedian,
and it would.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Never work or work.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
The only way I could be this person now is
if I took that chance when I was twenty one,
when I was said broken, had my cars repossessed and
all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
That's that's the only.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Way ever get where you want to go? Be able
to pick a path.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
It's dangerous. A path, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
A way ever get what you want to If you
have to pick a path.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
It's dangerous. Take a path, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Ever get want to be able.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
To take a path, it's dangerous. Take a path, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Own way ever, get where you want to go? You
have to take a path. It's dangerous.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Take to take a path.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
It's dangerous, And most people want to take a safe path.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
The safe path leaves you stuck in quiet desperation. Almost
every time.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's hell. That's hell.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
There's some insurance, there's some other that.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
You care zero about. That it's hell. That's hell. Now,
that's hell. Hell.

Speaker 7 (05:38):
The only way ever get where you want to go,
you have to take a path.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
It's dangerous. Take a path, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Own way ever get where you want to go, be
able to take a path, it's dangerous.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Take a thing a path, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
The only way ever get where you want to go.
If you want to take a path.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
It's dangerous. Take a path, it's dangerous.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
All get what you want to go, you have to
take a path. That's dangerous.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Take the path is dangerous.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
The way you can change is you have to put
us out enough money to give yourself a window, and
then you have to have a plan, and you have
to spend all your waking hours outside of whatever job
you do, you do planning your escape, and you have
to come to the realization very clearly that you lived up.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
You got yourself stuck.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
So whatever you're doing, you have to do it like
your life depends on it. And whether it is you're
trying to be an author and you're working eight hours
a day plus Canadian plus family.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Responsibilities or whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Time you have, you have to attack like you're.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Trying to save the world.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
In the world, you're trying to save your life. You
don't want to drown. Don't want to.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Drown that one and a half hours a day that
you have to write and like, damn, you better be
caffeinated and motivated.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
You gotta go.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
You got to get after it.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
You gotta go.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
You gotta get older, You got to get after the
Get to take a.

Speaker 7 (07:05):
Path, that's dangerous, path that's dangerous, To get to take.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
A past, it's dangerous. It is dangerous.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
To get to take a path to stangers, pat dangerous.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
To get to take a path.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
Is dangerous, and the path is dangerous.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
The thing about it is you don't want to encourage
everybody to take a path that's dangerous. Most people don't
need to do that. Most people need to find stability
in security. The problem is the person in security and

(07:54):
stability that should be taking the dangerous path would be
stuck and you and it manifests itself in other ways,
being a grump, being a drunk, being angry that that
person didn't chase the dream they were supposed to chase.
I guess that's the difficulty, isn't We're all so different?

(08:18):
There is no one size fits off. Again, that's why
I have my guitar probably out of tune.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
You might have to edit that.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
This is Mark Chestnut and Jar Bizaar of Talk Radio.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
They say It's good word if you can get it.
For this beginning and this grinting, it ain't a w
isw is cracked up to be from the outside looking in.
It's all guitar stars and women staying high, getting loose,
and women free. All something's about to give inside of me.

(09:01):
It's hardest settled down whenever days in another town.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
So you hit the stage and try to kill the numb.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
I've seen a million miles of blacktop motels, bars.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
And truck stops because I spend.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
A lot of time on the run.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Chasing now the song, I still ain't some I guess
I let him all in rear view, and I kept
you own up to I don't know how much longer
I can last living a life between the guard grabs
the devil on the coattails, trying.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
To out and run my checkers fast.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
If you're getting in, you better.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Make it fast. It's hardest settled down whenever.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Days in another town, So you hit the stage and
try to kill.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
The non.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Seen a million a massive cooktop hotels, parsle truck stops.
I guess I spend a lot of time on the
run chasing Dallan's song astellaatee son dey lose me.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
That I the woman dancing through my dreams.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Dott that's disserts me new and then it's all out
of my hands. And that's just that still round reason
as of I guess I spend a lot of time
on the run chasing guy last song estellate.

Speaker 9 (10:46):
So us stylings of John Carroll right there.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
This is Corey Marson's song.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's hard is settled down every days another town.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
So you hit the stage and try to kill number.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Seen a million miles of cock up hotels, cars and
truck stops. Because I spent a lot of time on run,
chasing down that song, I still ain't son.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I guess I spend a lot of time on the run.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
I'm chasing down that song.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I still at song.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's Corey Morrow's newest release. He was supposed to be
here in studio with us today and he was going
to sing our Bumps. But I goofed and miscommunicated. Actually
I didn't miscommunicate. I fail. It was a failure to

(12:35):
communicate Ramon. And what happened was what happened was people
get very used to me being responsive in messages and
when I turn it off. They don't. You're stupid. You
know what. You got a new watch and you think
you're somebody. No, they do. And when I don't respond,

(13:01):
people think something's wrong, and you know, they take that
as a sign. And so Corey thought, well, if you
didn't respond. And as you know, nobody knows where our
studio is. We've only had two in studio guests. I said,
you're gonna be the third in studio guest. You ever
tell a soul where our studio is, I will wring

(13:21):
your skinny little neck, cause he's skinny. Now, you know,
he doesn't dream. I don't think he eats. I really don't.
I don't think he eats any anything. He just sings,
just sits around singing, and I never eat. And he's
got like ten kids now, there's probably no food left
by the time it gets to him. You know, he's
the one. When we were little, my grandmother, we took

(13:42):
pride that you would eat the ligament. If you got
the drumstick, you would eat the ligament. You know what's funny.
When you're a kid, everybody likes a drumstick. Then you
get older and you can't eat the drumstick because drum stick.
Drumstick has to go to the kids, right, And I
start eating the thing I like better? Or is it

(14:04):
the wing? It's dark meat, but you got a bunch
of bone in there, so you gotta work at it.
The thigh, yes, the thigh, yes, it's a thigh. Now
I like the thigh better. The problem is, and you'd
think as much fried chicken as I've eaten in my life,
I can't tell which one is the thigh till I
brought into it and you go bite into some white meat. Oh,

(14:26):
why why do people do that? Why does anybody eat
the white meat of chicken?

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
My goodness, I can't Was it my brother? Somebody used
to say to me, Oh, man, you eat the dark meat. Yes,
that's all blood. Yes, that's the flavor. You think that
old flesh is what makes it taste good? No? No, no, no,
same way on uh uh on wings. When I go

(14:58):
to Big City wings, it's just flats. It's all aids,
the flats. Were you telling me you like the flats too?
I only learned they were called flats a few months ago.
So now I like to say it like I know something.
So you know there's two there's two wings you can
get at at most places. One is the drumstick. What

(15:19):
is that one called? Is that a drum? Drumstick? And
then the other one is the flat, which is the
one that you got to you gotta work at because
it's the bone and you're going in between there. And
I like to eat all that cartledge and stuff, all
the stuff there towards the wing tip and all that
I see people throw that back. Of course I eat
the tail of the of the shrimp too. I just

(15:40):
think there's a lot of flavor in those things. But
that's just me, you know, that's just me.

Speaker 8 (15:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Carla Boscarino says, be brave, try new things. Every once
in a while. You might have to make a decision
that you know is best for you, but it's very scary.
Go for it. Sometimes you have it wrong, and when
that happens, learn the lesson, move on with a little
better understanding of life and it's realities. The only bad mistake,
says Glenn Holtzman, are those we don't learn from. Be curious,

(16:06):
No stupid questions, only stupid answers. The best advice that
I can give, says Yack four twenty, is just to
be happy. You have to love the person you stare
at in the mirror before anyone else. Life's not happy,
and to be truthful and honest. These things will carry
you through. Gerald from Magnolia. You know, it's interesting. I've
watched so many men marry women and the woman is broken,

(16:32):
and they marry a woman because they got a savior complex.
They're gonna protect her, they're gonna advise her, they're gonna
heal her. But she's broken, she's broken to the core.
Bless her heart, and it always ends badly, and you later,
nobody really wants to be told that. They later want
to tell you how crazy she was. Now we knew

(16:52):
she was crazy the first time you brought This is
Tracy Bird and welcome to the lifestyles of the not
so rich and famous are as.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
I can call it the Michael Barry Show.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Let me tell you something that songs we wish we'd
written between Corey and Pat. That is a golden era
of Texas country music. You think who was out You
don't know what you're in until it's gone. Well, you

(17:24):
think who was out on the road active at that time?
You had Robert Earl burning up the roads. You had
Charlie Robinson rest in peace. You had Jerry Jeff still
active and he was on the backside, but still very active.
You had Guy Clark John Prime was going through some

(17:48):
some health problems at that time, but you had and
then you had those that group of young guys coming up,
and Corey and Pat were at the top of that heap.
And a couple of years later you'd have Roder Craigor
come in and Stony LaRue. It was such a glorious time, man,
There's so much good music that came out, and Lyle

(18:11):
and Robert Earle would get back together and do you
know number two live kind of stuff. Oh man, there's
just such wonderful music from that era. It's just so good.
You know what I was listening to the other day
by ri e K. What was that? I gotta go, Well,

(18:33):
that's a song right there. I gotta go. That's just
solid right there. So Pat and Corey are gonna do
another version of songs we wish we'd written, and politely
I don't think they'll take my advice, but politely asked
me what I would like to see them do, and

(18:55):
and my standard if you want to send a suggestion,
which we kind of talked through, is it's not just
a cover. It's first of all, a cover that is
not an obvious song. You know, it's not like Dhlia's
gone Delia's Gone with such a great tune on that album,

(19:17):
because it's not a huge song otherwise, and you sort
of pull it out of obscurity. So the first time
you hear Corey sing it, you go, do I know
that song already? Feels like I kind of do. Maybe
I don't know, Yeah, but they're gonna do. I know that.

(19:37):
The only song they've they've decided on so far is uh,
Southern Nights, And I told them they how to do
it full blowed Alan twoson style, they ot to do it,
how to do it with a keyboard accompaniment, and uh,
slow it way down and make it storytelling. And each

(20:00):
one of them could tell stories. Pack can tell stories
about his upbringing, Corey could tell stories about his And
that's what you want. I mean to me, the beauty
of the Texas Red Dirt scene is the storytelling. When
I go to a church service and people will say,
what was the message? The message is out of the

(20:21):
same Bible that I read on my own. There are
very few, very few things in the Bible, having been
a Wednesday night, Sunday morning, and Sunday evening Southern Baptists
most of my life from childhood through the end of
high school, and then in steps beyond that with my

(20:45):
own self guided I mean a very few things, are
very few verses you're going to get to that. Now,
you might bring something new to that, but it's the storytelling.
It's absolutely the storytelling that brings it to life and
makes it hit, makes you realize why that verse is
relevant to your life. In twenty twenty five, I got

(21:09):
an email from a show sponsor, Redstone Payment Solutions. They
do credit card processing, and they wanted an introduction to
Lamont Brands, which does promotional gear anything if you're going
to a convention, a conference, trade show, anything to put

(21:30):
your name on any item that's out there. So they said, hey,
can we'd like to talk to them, So I made
the introduction. They drive down to Galveston, they close the deal,
so now they're going to be doing their credit card work.
But then Redstone had an opportunity to refer Lamont Brands
to somebody else within a few days. So I just

(21:52):
want to say thank you to all of you who
make our business model work and have created this family
of not just our show sponsors, but personalities and people
from Rico to Uncle Jerry to Coy and all the
various people Chance McLain that keep this show in this family,

(22:14):
in this community going. That's why people so badly want
another RCC. That's a big treat out of doing the trip,
and the Palm Beach trip at the end of October
is on. If you want details, you can email me.
But when you support our show sponsors, you support our show,

(22:34):
and it makes so much of a difference you would
not believe it. Nadita and I went to dinner last
night with Eddie Martini and his beautiful wife Liz, and
we were talking about how far we've come together in
twenty years and what we get to do, and how
many people that's you have to work together to allow

(22:55):
us to do this. I always feel a little silly
when people thank us for the show, or worry we're
going off the air, or act like we're doing something
because someone enjoys to show it. You know, I'm mindful
of the fact that for many people, the show is
what entertains you while you're out making deliveries or picking

(23:15):
up checks, or in your uber car or on your
way to job sites, or picking up the kids, or
waiting and pickup line. I'm mindful of the fact that
for many people that's what we are, and the connection
might be deeper than well, you know, that's the best
thing on the radio, and I'm going to listen to it.
There may be more to it than that. But for
some people, our show, our personality, our lives, what we do,

(23:38):
what we stand for, is a big, big part of
what your life is about and what you try to
do in your own way. And that's pretty darn cool.
I mean to get to be a part of that
every day, five days a week, for five hours a day,
for twenty years. It wasn't always five hours a day,

(23:59):
but to get to do this for twenty years, it's
a pretty darn special thing. And I just want you
to know that we never ever lose sight. It might
appear that we are immodest, but we never ever lose
sight that it can all be gone in a moment,
if that's what you chose. A diner at a sushi restaurant,

(24:20):
Ramon asked the waiter what kind of eel is this?
The waiter said, do you love it? And the diner said, yeah,
that's why I was asking I do. And the waiter said,
then that's a moray. It's a mora ill ramon, that's amorray.

(24:48):
Did you hear about the bedbug who's going to be
a mom. She'll have her babies in the spring. You
didn't seem to get that. Did you hear about the
bed about who's gonna be a mom? She'll have in
the spring? Show?

Speaker 8 (25:27):
We'll suppose your eyes and drink me going on a
trup through history.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I want to see some sat to day.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Hey, we'll go back.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
When time's young and you learn the trigger.

Speaker 8 (25:40):
Of the gun.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
He'd be sixteen on the way when.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
The Montain was closed about his side and the rivers Hill,
the Miner's pride.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
It was a year of forty nine in those days.

Speaker 8 (25:56):
I an't gone and didn't wish I could see the
live buying from the cowboys. And I'm on the go
time traveling through Texas, Wandy. I'm on to go time
traveling through Texas, Wendy.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I won't be then greet the.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Air and see all I can see in.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
That Texas time traveling machine.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
The state of Texas is the greatest in the Union.
We're lucky to call it home. For nine years, it
was its own nation, and throughout history it's held a
special place in the hearts.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Of all Americans.

Speaker 8 (26:40):
We're gonna celebrate Texas great history today.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Now here's your host, Michael Barry. Funny thing about that
is people send emails saying we should bring back Texas Time.
But when I was doing Texas Time was airing on
Sunday night on exactly the prime time programming, and Ramon

(27:06):
would make fun of me for my little show that
he said nobody was listening to see tell the truth
because people come up to him in public, I love
the show. Oh thank you. They'll talk about a couple
of things and they'll say, man, I wish Michael would
bring back Texas. He still saying, I wish y'all'd bring
back Texas Time. He had nothing to do with Texas Time,

(27:28):
didn't want anything to do with it. It was a
woman named Katie Key who was my first booker for
the RCC, dear friend of mine. Her and her husband
Ken live up in I think it's splendora Ramon. You know,
if you were to show me a map of this
region and say put Shenandoah, Splendora, Conroe Spring, just just

(27:56):
place the Huffman place those where they are. I would
be I mean, it'd be like Jasmine Crockett at a
spelling bee. I would be confused. I mean, I have
a rough estimate. I know where the Woodlands is on

(28:16):
five point forty five. I know where Willis is, but
that's I would have not known where will because I
always lived inside the loop. I mean, I'm not gonna
lie to you. I always lived inside the loop. I
didn't know where those places were. So first time I
went out to Willis, well, it wasn't even Willis. First
time I went out to Texas Grand Ranch before that

(28:38):
sold out, I didn't know where I was going. And
I got there and I thought, man, you can live
like this and still work in Houston. I mean, this
is this is trees and forest and fresh air and
green verdant lensk oh. This is amazing. And of course

(29:01):
because of that, it's sold out. So Gary Sumner said,
we got some more landlocked and you're gonna love this one.
And so first time I drive to it, I turn
off the highway. There you go. You snake through the
town for about three minutes, which I don't mind doing
because it's such a wonderful little town. And I have

(29:23):
a Willis hang up because Marcus Latrail's from there and
he's very proud of Willis. And then you start on
I forget what the roads it is called. You start
on that little road AND's a couple of miles down.
I describe it as a bu colic. It feels like
an English country lane. You just drive on. You turn right.
First time I went, I don't think there was any
new construction yet, but they had built the bridge over

(29:45):
the seven Acre Lake. And I drove over that lake
and I said, oh man, that's that's not even that.
That's not even fair. That's like putting the louvies next
to an old folks home. You just can't I mean,
you can't beat that. That's like a sore. Well, you
can't beat that. I'll just say that. And anyway, what
were we talking about? Oh, so those areas I get

(30:09):
kind of confused. You know where Lake Conroe is, and
then I know Kingwood is over to the right. You
know it's over to the right. So you go up
fifty nine for that and there's Kingwood. But if you
were to tell me keep going north of Kingwood and
then what are you going to hit? Y'all don't need
to email me because I'll forget. It's not like I've
never been there before. You know, Jim Mudd lived somewhere

(30:29):
around there, I think in Huffman. Do you know that
he bought Do you know he bought his house and
they got a like a country club there, and they
got a community fishing area and they got all and
he didn't even know that when he bought the place.
He didn't even know it. And I asked him about

(30:51):
four days into having moved in, big, fancy, beautiful house,
I said, so, Jim, so tell me something nice. And
you've told me that you know, you got more room,
you got to by patio, it's covered, you got your smoke,
your cigar smoking area, you got your barbecue pitt building,
and okay, I got all that. Tell me something about
this area that you like. He goes, Oh, well, they
got a da da da da. I said, Does that

(31:12):
mean you could ride a golf cart up there and
have dinner? Yes, that's my dream. That is my dream.
I would love to be like in Pirates and be
able to get on a golf cart and go up
to the Galveston Country Club and eat and then drive
home tanked up, drive home real slow. I'm scared of

(31:32):
golf course, Ramona. I'm not gonna lie to you. I
have known too many people. You saw what happened with
the old Elway. I mean I saw some of the
nasty things. People said, Oh, we didn't want to kill
his best friend. Nobody does you know Jessica Willie, her

(31:53):
fine ass. Jessica Willie at Channel thirteen. She and her
husband Ross were like at a destination wedding in Costa Rica,
I think, or somewhere and somebody hit the gas or
turned too fast or whatever. Those things are dangerous. They'll
sling you out there and threw off her knocked her
teeth out. Now you'd never know it. It's got abuse
she got. She probably went to uh doctor Guy Lewis

(32:15):
at Texas Center for Cosmetic Dentistry. That woman just refuses
to age. Remember when COVID came along and Max said,
I refuse to go into a recession. I refuse to
play along. She just refuses to age. She's a beautiful one.
She's a wonderful wonderful. It's a great journalist. She is
a fantastic journalist. You know, over the years, I've gotten

(32:38):
to know a lot of journalists, especially when I was
being covered and then when I got out, Uh, they
would want to know, all right, what's really going on
down there? Because I had just left and it was
the same thing that I had told you before. And
I still I still see some of that crowd is
still in the news around Houston. And you know, I

(32:58):
don't know the newer folks. I wouldn't have a reason
to know the newer folks. But Jessica was one of
those reporters that I had a great deal of respect for.
People don't want to hear my list Ted Oberg, who
was also at Channel thirteen, Delta Fino listen. I don't
know that anybody tells a story better in presenting news

(33:21):
in the greater Houston area than Dutch Finna. He understands
the theater of it and he understands the storytelling element
of it. He gets that very good in terms of
doing research and chasing down stories. Greg Grugan is very good.

(33:41):
Randy Wallace very good. Mario Diaz at Channel two very good.
Amy Davis, Amy Davis. She like a dog on a
bone when she got on that water contract. On the
corruption at the water deal. You remember how remember Sylvester Turner,
he kind of let a little to the bedroom and
he got kind of bitchy at her, You are not

(34:03):
a nice lady. And she was like, okay, but are
you going to answer the question. Remember he got all
bitch Well, it turned out it was quite a fraud
running under that deal anyway,
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