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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I got an email during the break somebody has said,
we should teach our kids money. They should learn about
mortgages and interest rates and compounding and investing. You know,
when I was running for city council, first time it was,
the election was in two thousand and one, but I
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went around to well respected business leaders around town and
one of them was a guy named Dean Kannally, and
he had a blue chip, well respected boutique trust company
called Kannale Trust, and you had to have a certain
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threshold to be a client of his boutique firm. And
at the time it felt like eighty trillion dollars, but
we didn't. Incomes and wealth increased exponentially in the last
two decades in a way they had never on scale
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like that before. So let's say you had to have
a million dollars in two thousand to be his client,
which was a big threshold. And I asked for his
support to run for city council and he said, I
will give you my support if you will give me
an hour to talk about the fundamentals of finance, personal
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finance I want you to understand how they work, and
I want to explain it to you, and I want
you to listen to me. And I did, and it
probably turned into two hours. And I didn't do a
lot of what he told me to do at the time,
wish I had, but I did some and it stayed
in my mind, and as I got older, and I
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started thinking about things like, what if you have a
stroke and can't work anymore, what if you get fired?
What what if? What if? What are you doing to
at least make sure that you got, you know, via
any sausages and saltine crackers, for the rest of your life.
And so I think about all the things that people
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don't know, that they either learned the hard way too late,
or never learn and don't understand. And I think that's
unfortunate because we all pay into this school system, whether
we send kids there or not. We all pay into
this school system to teach young people things. And I
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think we got lost along the way as to what's important.
And if I'm being completely honest and I'm not insulting
women and I'm not insulting teachers, I think that in
most cases you've got teachers who are women who themselves
don't know anything about finance, are engineering or science who
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even the best intended teachers are caregivers. They love children,
they want to see children develop, They care a lot
about a child's confidence, and these sorts of things, which
is good, don't get me wrong, But you can't teach
what you don't know. Who was it Seneca who said
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teaching is learning. When I give a speech, which I
give fewer and fewer these days, but when I give
speech to a group and they asked me to speak
on a particular subject, instead of just speak, I will
often go back and review facts and figures and things
about what I'm going to talk about. And that's not
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teaching per se, but in a sense it is. And
I find that at the end of that I feel
very refreshed and invigorated from that learning process I undertook
to get to the point to deliver that speech. Let's
start with Chris, then Kyle, then Gay, Dave, then Heather,
than Mike. Chris, You're on the Michael, But how about that, Chris, Kyle?
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What what? What just happened? Chris? You're up? Go ahead?
I bet Ramon didn't pot him on.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Go ahead, Chris, yes, I was just calling to say
how they should teach you, you know, on and common
sense things like how to change a timer, how to
change a light bulb, how to do cond of things
that these kids these days, they don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They're just agreed. I mean, you look ideally a dad
out to teach his kid that, and I think there's
a lot of people who would say, yeah, they ought
to who haven't done that. You know, sports is such
a such an interesting thing because it's very natural. I
grew up playing youth sports, so I wanted my kids
to play youth sports. I spent so much quality time
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with my kids, driving them to and from sports, hitting grounders,
catching balls, throwing balls, throwing hitting up pop flies, teaching
them the elements of the sports. I loved that they
were then playing. And it's a very natural and easy thing.
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I think if you didn't grow up learning how to
change the tire, change the light bulb, take things up,
part replace them, then you don't teach it to your child.
You know, people teach their kids to fish because they
themselves fished. Wh she's a great father son. It's not
life skill, except maybe it is because having a hobby
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developing a hobby I think is an important life skill.
It is something I've not been very good at. My
hobby is learning, and I learned to channel that. But
people who love to hunt love to fish. I think
it's an important part of good sound mindset. Kyle, you're up, go.
What should people learn in school that they don't now?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I've got a long laundry list, But my biggest pet
peeve is learning how to hold a writing instrument, how
to form a letter, and how to write and cursive.
Three children that can do neither, and they're all in
their twenties, and it just drives me crazy whenever they
send me a note. There are two used to being
on the computer or their phone, and they don't learn
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the the basic forming a letter. You know, it's crazy
they don't teach that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Kyle, let me ask you something, and I'm not disagreeing,
but I've given this some thought. Why is it important
that children learn cursive?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Because the best form of saying thank you is a
personal handwritten note you're drop in the mailbox.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
But you can write a hand novel note that is printed.
I've asked myself this and I can't come up with
a good answer. I wish somebody would answer this for
me and help me out.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I just believe it looks more formal and as opposed
to thanks and block lettering. You know, yeah, I suppose
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I suppose you're right for me. I didn't give you
my answer because I wanted to hear yours for me.
There's something unique about each person's cursive. Is it loopy?
Is is it tight? Is it does it lean like italics?
Do they press hard or light? I find all of
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those things to be, you know, part of our signature,
part of our DNA, part of our individuality, and I
find that interesting. All right, Gay, Dave and Heather, y'all
hold on for just a moment. And we have phone
lines that just opened up seven three, nine, one thousand.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
They're all duncans, And do you know duncan means your y'oll.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I got an email in the break from a full name. Okay,
he's Greg, his son is Michael, and I had asked
on Facebook for people, as I often do, to send
me quirky unique startup businesses. Businesses are nostalgia businesses that
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our owner occupied, owner operated. Interesting business callers, Hold just
a moment, You're right, with you, and he sent me
an email he said, our son is the founder of
a company called Pero Pa. Ro started it from scratch.
It's a marketplace for accounting professionals. It matches accountants their
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skill sets with clients in need of fractional services. So
if you think of Percento Technologies, which has been a
sponsor of my show for probably fifteen years, Romo, I
said my show, I'm at our show, me and Chad.
Percento Technologies was built on the concept that many companies,
even mid sized companies, don't have the IT prowess. They
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don't have a robust enough IT presence to handle the
growth and development. And you know that. Let's say they're
going out to spend a million dollars on technology, just
just upgrading computers, which is what Ramone's wife does for
Texas law Shield, just buying all new computers. Okay, are
we going to deploy those? How are we going to
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do those? How are we going to make it scalable?
How are we staying up with where we're going to
be in a year? I mean, you know, you feel
bad when you're the guy that buys a year model
of a car and you don't get a discount because
that model's going away, and two months later they flip
to a new model and your car looks ten years old.
You're bummed out right. Well, it's even worse with computers,
and now you've got security because you got all these hacks,
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you got ransomware and all that and performance, speed and
everything that goes with that. So percento is based on
the idea that you have an IT department that you
can't afford full time, and you pay a for fractional
interest of their you know, fractional services, because you don't
need a guy at three hundred thousand dollars a year
or whatever they make full time half the time he's
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goofing off. You just need a part of what he's doing.
And I would think that would be true with accounting,
I suppose. I mean, I keep my accountants pretty busy
at a partners because I want to look at strategically
making good decisions, not just complying with tax codes. I
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don't want to I don't want to push the limits
because I have a target on my back. But I
also don't want to miss out on things that are obvious.
So I need full time accounting services. Some folks that
are small. I would assume probably only need a little bit,
and they would be below the threshold of Darroche Partners.
I get a lot of emails from people who will say, hey,
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can you send me to your accountants? And I vet
them for Deroche because they're meant for high net worth
individuals and mid sized companies and above. They're not efficient
or cost efficient for a guy just trying to do
his personal taxes. So you know, I think there's probably
a niche somewhere in there below what Deroche Partners does.
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All right, Gay Dave, you're up?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Mornings are they need to teach the US Constitution and
for at least the whole year so people understand it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, you know, I wonder you know a lot of
people will tell me, do you grow up in Texas? No?
Speaker 6 (12:13):
I didn't. I grew up in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's gay. Do you know that you have you have? Hey?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Can I tell you?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
But hold on, I want to tell you this. You
have become such a resource for our show that every
time something comes up, Ramone will say you should ask
Gay Dave, like, what what is like? There will be
something that happens and he'll say, we don't have good gaytor.
You should ask gay Dave what he thinks about that,
But I don't want to, you know, I don't want
to ask you too many questions. But ramone's best.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I can I tell you? Can I tell you a
quick story about a cursive writing about what? When I
was in eighth grade? Yeah, cursive writing story. When I
was in eighth grade, I had a history teacher and
not an English teacher. A history teachers to take off
a point every time I would write partly in print
and not incursive on her tests. So I get one
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hundred on the tests and end up with like an eighty.
So one day she's writing on the truck board and
what does she do. She does exactly what she's to
take every every point off for. And I stood up there,
like you hip a creat I went off on her
right and then she started like yelling back. And then
this kid, Jason Cardon, who never gets in trouble, gets
up and starts defending me. His mom was a teacher
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in the school, and she kicks us both out of class.
Who went to We had to go see the scariest
principle ever had mister Dorney this big bowl of a man.
So we get in there and he's like, what are
you two doing in here? And I tell him the story.
He marches us back to class and he pulls her
in the hallway and he starts going off on her.
And I was like, oh my god, this is awesome.
It's like the best moment and shut up. She came
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back in with the red face and for the rest
of the year she I mean she hated me anyway,
but she really really hated me. But it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I love it. Thank you, Gay Dave. So, this this
cursive issue keeps coming up, and look, I can say, yes,
the kids all have to learn cursive. Cursive is important,
but I think it's very important that you be able
to question positions you have and answer them as if
someone else had asked it answered you. So I said earlier,
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why is it important that kids learn cursive? I hope
they learn cursive because I learned cursive, right. I hope
they think Dan Pastorini's a great guy, because I think
Dan Pastorin's a great guy. But I don't know that
it's going to make a difference to a kid's future.
I hope they think the oilers were the coolest team
in the NFL. But I don't think it's going to
make a difference. And if they don't, then I don't
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think that's really a position I actould be taken up.
So I asked the question, why is it important the
kids learn cursive? I don't disagree, but let's ask questions.
And I keep getting emails from people saying they have
to be able to read the founding documents. I got
ten emails to that effect. In the first break, can
you honestly tell me Ramon? I'll ask you. I want
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you to be honest. Have you read the Declaration of
Independence in the original cursive?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You haven't, and you're a history buff and I'm going
to tell you something else. And people don't want to
hear this. Nobody has. When I say nobody, it's a
rounding error because it's less than one percent. Oh no, no, no,
you've looked at the document during a ken Burn's documentary
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when they scrolled across the screen. You've seen pictures of it,
and you know you've seen the couple of the letters,
because if you've actually read it, you should be able
to tell me which letters that we use today were
not used as such. In the original. Let's just take
to that the ration of independence, because people tell me
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that's important because they don't use the exact spelling. There
are certain letters we use today that they did not
use in that form at that time, and you don't
know that. Do you know why you don't know that?
Because you didn't read that in cursive. It's also very
hard to read their script because they have a very flowing,
languid style of writing. So what happened? Somebody typed that up?
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You know what typing is. It's print. It's easier to read.
There's a reason you don't read books in cursive. Now.
I know we're all supposed to say I miss cursive,
I miss cursing, but I think that's some people are saying.
If the old documents are the reason you're not reading
old documents cursive, I guarantee you I've got.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Nothing going on down there, probably.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But it strikes me as interesting how many people get
angry if you simply question someone my favorite chocolate that
is where I went to school? Is it? Yes? What
were you just saying? I don't my favorite food? Is chocolate? Really?
Is it?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yet? Why would it be? Is it's that's all as
the English will saying, is it? It's almost like Okay,
So Ramon started asking me questions during the break and said,
you should tell that on the air. That's interesting, and
I said, I think it's boring, but I'll tell it
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on the air anyway. So people keep emailing me, Hockel
the kids have to learn cursive so they can read
the original documents. Okay, I'm going to buy in on that. Look,
I think they should learn cursive to preserve history. I
just want to be very clear what we're saying, what
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we're not if it's I think certain aspects of history
should be preserved. An urn remains a monument, but I
think it's important to understand that we're preserving them out
of vanity, out of tradition, and those things are also important.
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Rituals are preserved. We preserve some rituals solely because they
are a ritual. They are a direct connection to the
past that we must not be broken. It must remain unbroken.
I don't know why, because it's important. It's who we are,
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it's our identity. But I do find it interesting how
many people say they gotta be outad it old documents,
which ones declarats re independence. Okay, have you read it
incursive in the original script? I have? You haven't. I
guarantee you haven't. Okay, if you have, what did you
notice it was odd about it? There's a letter used
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there that we don't use. We haven't used in forever.
I think the Broadside Dictionary still use. Nobody else uses it.
You've never seen this letter written. There is a letter
very prominent in there. And not only is it very prominent,
it extends above the other lower case letters and below
the lower case letters. It screams out, look at me,
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look at me. I'm the dork that goes and looks
at this document. That's not a humble brag. That is
to tell you that nobody else does. It's weird. Nobody does.
The words are so established in print so many times
and unquestioned for two hundred and fifty years. Nobody is
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going Nobody is saying, well, you're gonna have life and liberty,
but that's all we're giving you. No, we get to
have happiness too, which was supposed to be prosperity. By
the way, in the original it was incursive. We won't
happiness too. No, Doctor Rice of Independence doesn't grant you
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how happiness, just life and liberty it does, and swear
it does. Show me. Let me go get my cursive copy.
Well says right here, just life and liberty. It's printed
out full stop. There's no happiness. Oh man, y'all change
the words on us. I got an original incursive somewheres
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and it said happiness. I'm sure it said it. Nope,
this is a document. It's not even questioned. No one
is questioning those documents that were written in cursive. But
you have only ever read in print. I guarantee you
you've only ever read them in print. And I'll give
you an example. There is something that our history nerds
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in the crowd will know. It is called a long
S so little quirk. And this is why I told you, Ramona.
It's no point in me telling the story. It's very boring,
but I'm gonna tell you because you pissed me off.
So Originally incursive, the letter S would only ever appear
at the end of a word. The letter S in
the middle or at the beginning of a word lower
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case would never appear as an S. It was it
would appear as an F. Follow me on the F
an F that had a big curly queue at the top,
like a like a cane. Right, you were holding a cane,
and so it goes straight up and it would arc
over to the right, and it would come all the
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way down and it would arc to the left and
curl back up, kind of look like a seahorse. Okay,
so that F is not actually an F. And the
difference is when you crossed that F in the middle,
you would only cross it to the to the main
of the F. You wouldn't go across. And that was
known in the printing industry as a long S. It
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would stand out because it was taller than the other
letters and went lower than the other letters, and that
distinguished it because an S could only be used at
the end of a word. If you read the word
congress in the original Constitution, you will notice that it
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looks like con gr f s. It looks like congress.
If you don't know that, because it is so striking
the first time you read it, then you didn't read
the Constitution incursive. And I'm not trying to be the
nerd on the front row. I'm simply pointing out there
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are many many people who haven't learned cursive, who have
performed just fine. Example, calligraphy died off. I don't do calligraphy.
I think it's awesome, it'd be a thing I think
we should we should preserve. Okay, there are dead languages,
and it's unfortunate that there are dead languages for which
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we've lost the ability to read the great texts because
the language itself, not the manner of writing it, not
the manner of convey that's different. Nobody is suggesting we're
losing English. I'm not saying we shouldn't learn cursive. I'm
just saying, don't repeat something you heard other people say
because some Fox News host had a segment on it
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and you thought, yeah, we got bail to read the declaration.
You're reading the Declaration in the same way that every
other American reads it, and that is printed out or
on a screen. There are so many of those quirks,
so many things that we never read. I've read I
don't know how much by Adam Smith, but never in
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his handwriting. You go to Monticello and you see Jefferson's writing.
Jefferson had the first Xerox machine. It was a contraption
where when you wrote, there was a rod that came
up and went over and went down, and it mirrored
the page there. So whatever he wrote, he had a
duplicate copy of brilliant. And so you sit there and
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you read it to see how close is that to
the original, and you go, I can't tell, because I
can't read what he's writing. I don't think I'm smarter
than the average bear, but I don't think i'm dumber.
You go, try to read the journals of Thomas Jefferson.
You can't. You can't. It's like a doctor's writing. Now
they could because in the time they wrote in this style,
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we've lost forms of cursive over two and a half centuries.
I don't know why I allowed myself to be pushed
into a corner as some person standing on the principle
of nobody reads cursive. I think because I can't stand
for arguments to be repeated without any thought given to
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it because someone else said it and nobody ever stops
to give it thought. But I am for teaching cursive,
and my kids do write and read cursive. I just
think you can survive just fine without it going forward.
And I'll leave that at that. I could have just
said that, and then you aggravated me during the break,
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and then I got out there and I got a
bunch of old ladies going. I'm not sure imming to
listen to Michael Berry anymore. I thought he was on
our team. You know, he wasn't for Trump at the beginning.
I remember, he wasn't for Trump. He's come around, but
you know, now he's over there. Shoot, he's he don't
even want cursive no more. I don't know what he thinks.
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He wasn't for Trump. Remember he talked about it and
he was, and now he's over there. We don't need cursive.
You've got some upside down f I don't give a
damn I learned curs If you ought it's Michael Berry's
formal aware.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
We have all your formalware needs, from morning suits to
coordinating accessories.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Out of time.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
The best explanation I have heard, and it comes from
a law man friend of mine. Cursive is important zar
because it strengthens cognitive development, It enhances fine motor skills
for kids, and it boosts their overall literacy. I'm not
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sure that's even true, but that's very impressive. That's an
actual reason. It just makes me crazy when people say
things without any consideration for what they say in never
having thought about it, and then you challenge it and
they pitch a fit. Got to be able to read
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the declaration is the lamest answer ever. You don't care
about the declaration? Well if reading the Declaration of Independence
incursive is how you prove whether you care about the declaration.
You don't care about the declaration because you've not read
it incursive, and I'm willing to go on the It's
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one of those things like cow tipping or any number
of other things that people will say they've done, and
when you really get down to it, well, yeah, maybe yes,
Like why you love water burger? It's right there.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Tell me something that you love about where you live?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What burger?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Okay, great, tell me about it right now?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, all right, just no, just tell me about it.
You're gonna love water burgern. Oh it's the best. What
makes it the best? Wherever you are, there's a water Burger?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, it's always right there.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And then when you get there, what do you like
about it?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What do you get? Whatever you want?
Speaker 6 (27:35):
You could order whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Then, right, But there are a lot of places like that.
So let's say there's a McDonald's, a Burger King a
sonic and a waterburger all lined up?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Which one do you go to?
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Right? Why? Okay, here's another one. I can respect because
this is an honest answer. I favor cursif out of
my own enjoyment of its conveyance of personality and uniqueness.
I also believe it has become a comical way to
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communicate openly among younger code workers, like a secret code.
One of Cursiff's flaws is also its benefit. I've observed
the preferred usage of cursif amongst individuals who have poor spelling.
They can scribble the first two and last two letters
and everything in between is their unique penmanship. If you
cannot admit you have done that in your life, you
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know what that's the equivalent of in the gud Dunn
Yeah baby. How many songs do we not know all
the words?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
There's a little girl in our neighborhood noon tun to
Johnson and good good good yeah, uh head go and
see done and none and none dude brother was making
chicken in the frying pot, and her grandma was that
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is what that is.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Cursive allows you that, doctor Wright. Yeah. I did hear
from a lot of mommies that their kids have dysgraphia
and dyslexia, and apparently cursive helps with that, which is cool.
I like that. I don't deny it. I don't know
one way or another. The most surprising, I guess not
surprising because we've had this conversation before. Chad Knakanishi is
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an enigma. He's a fascinating cat because his brain processor
because he's half Japanese, is really really good. He's really
really smart, but his spelling is really really bad. And
it's a running joke. And he's the first to tell you.
He said, I can't read cursive. So the problem I've
come across is that I love to pull and collect
my family history. However, when I pull old family histories
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like my great grandparents marriage license below which he's attached,
I have to ask one of my sisters to quote
unquote translate some of the cursive. Not saying kids should
or shouldn't learn cursive, but it is one of my
personal struggles. Even the Census is incursive. By the way,
several of you mentioned the Census and you wouldn't be
able to read the census. Credit to you. I thought
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that was an interesting one. This is the nineteen forty
Census of my great grandparents and their kids. It's especially
confusing to me because I knew them all by their
generic American names Janet, Mildred, Thomas, Norman, Pauline, Robert, and Earl,
but their legal Japanese names are listed in the census,
which I've had to learn thanks to help translating. I
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love these conversations. I think it's fascinating, just fascinating, how
we retain records, how we go back and access those records,
because they're not just records. They're not just writing on
a paper. They're who we are. They are our DNA.
That's not just a name on a paper. That is
our DNA. You know, Sandy Peterson's making a sour dough bread.
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She might have already made it, and she said that
the that the whatever you call it, the cure, the whatever,
the seedling of it. You know, when you get the
sar dough brand and you bring it home, it's whatever,
that little clump of it that it is. It's two
hundred and fifty years old. I don't know where she
found it. I mean, you think about you know, you
propagate a flower with you propagate a tree. You think
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about you know how an animal passes one to the next,
to the next to the next, and in three hundred
years this is the lineage. That's some deep stuff, man,
that's really really deep stuff. And that these are the
documents you access to get there. I find that to
be very cool. All right, you folks have to be
fast so I can get all of you on. So
what is the thing they don't teach in school that
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they should? I think this is handwriting because it's all women. See,
you can tell topics by sex. Men are like handwriting
and dumb ass, just blurn cursive. Women are going but
dyslexia and dysgraphia and the census because ninety eight point
six percent of people who do UH ancestry studies are women. Teresa,
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go ahead, Hi, Michael, Okay, what should they teach that
they're not teaching? Go ahead, sweetheart.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Well, I still believe in teaching writing by script because
it strengthens the eye hand brain connection, and it creates
neural pathways for your brain.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So you're second or third or tenth person to say that,
how do you know that.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
I read it about twenty years ago?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Did you?
Speaker 8 (32:41):
I have no I read it in a printed book.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Are you are you a former teacher? Pardon me, are
you a former teacher?
Speaker 8 (32:54):
No, I'm a nurse.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Nurse okay, but I at homeschool with my kids a
couple of times, like different My different children had different
problems in school, and just to sort of assist them,
I at homeschooled them. And where we lived in Canada,
they had a great provincial system where they could give
you all the materials for the curriculum that year, and
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so basically it was all pre set, pre done. You know,
you took the pages at the beginning of the week
out of the big binder, put them in the smaller binders,
and that's all they have to do for that day.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I miss binders. I still use binders. I have binders
all around me. I have tabs, they're all marked off,
and people will say to me, you can put all
that on the computer. I know, I know. I love binders.
I love flipping through binders. My show sponsors for each
letter of the alphabet I have. You know, A is
(33:55):
Allied siding in you know, windows and Allied Custom roof
and all Star Construction and Allied outdoors, and then you know,
you go to B and you go to C. And
you and I enjoy turning the pages like a I
don't know. It's a connection to the past, and it's tactile.
I can touch it, I can turn it. I'm looking
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at my screen. I've received over three hundred emails on cursive, fascinating,
It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. So
Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I got an email during the break somebody has said,
we should teach our kids money. They should learn about
mortgages and interest rates and compounding and investing. You know,
when I was running for city council, first time it was,
the election was in two thousand and one, but I
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went around to well respected business leaders around town and
one of them was a guy named Dean Kannally, and
he had a blue chip, well respected boutique trust company
called Kannale Trust, and you had to have a certain
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threshold to be a client of his boutique firm. And
at the time it felt like eighty trillion dollars, but
we didn't. Incomes and wealth increased exponentially in the last
two decades in a way they had never on scale
(01:46):
like that before. So let's say you had to have
a million dollars in two thousand to be his client,
which was a big threshold. And I asked for his
support to run for city council and he said, I
will give you my support if you will give me
an hour to talk about the fundamentals of finance, personal
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finance I want you to understand how they work, and
I want to explain it to you, and I want
you to listen to me. And I did, and it
probably turned into two hours. And I didn't do a
lot of what he told me to do at the time,
wish I had, but I did some and it stayed
in my mind, and as I got older, and I
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started thinking about things like, what if you have a
stroke and can't work anymore, what if you get fired?
What what if? What if? What are you doing to
at least make sure that you got, you know, via
any sausages and saltine crackers, for the rest of your life.
And so I think about all the things that people
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don't know, that they either learned the hard way too late,
or never learn and don't understand. And I think that's
unfortunate because we all pay into this school system, whether
we send kids there or not. We all pay into
this school system to teach young people things. And I
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think we got lost along the way as to what's important.
And if I'm being completely honest and I'm not insulting
women and I'm not insulting teachers, I think that in
most cases you've got teachers who are women who themselves
don't know anything about finance, are engineering or science who
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even the best intended teachers are caregivers. They love children,
they want to see children develop, They care a lot
about a child's confidence, and these sorts of things, which
is good, don't get me wrong, But you can't teach
what you don't know. Who was it Seneca who said
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teaching is learning. When I give a speech, which I
give fewer and fewer these days, but when I give
speech to a group and they asked me to speak
on a particular subject, instead of just speak, I will
often go back and review facts and figures and things
about what I'm going to talk about. And that's not
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teaching per se, but in a sense it is. And
I find that at the end of that I feel
very refreshed and invigorated from that learning process I undertook
to get to the point to deliver that speech. Let's
start with Chris, then Kyle, then Gay, Dave, then Heather,
than Mike. Chris, You're on the Michael, But how about that, Chris, Kyle?
(04:39):
What what? What just happened? Chris? You're up? Go ahead?
I bet Ramon didn't pot him on.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Go ahead, Chris, yes, I was just calling to say
how they should teach you, you know, on and common
sense things like how to change a timer, how to
change a light bulb, how to do cond of things
that these kids these days, they don't know what to do.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They're just agreed. I mean, you look ideally a dad
out to teach his kid that, and I think there's
a lot of people who would say, yeah, they ought
to who haven't done that. You know, sports is such
a such an interesting thing because it's very natural. I
grew up playing youth sports, so I wanted my kids
to play youth sports. I spent so much quality time
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with my kids, driving them to and from sports, hitting grounders,
catching balls, throwing balls, throwing hitting up pop flies, teaching
them the elements of the sports. I loved that they
were then playing. And it's a very natural and easy thing.
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I think if you didn't grow up learning how to
change the tire, change the light bulb, take things up,
part replace them, then you don't teach it to your child.
You know, people teach their kids to fish because they
themselves fished. Wh she's a great father son. It's not
life skill, except maybe it is because having a hobby
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developing a hobby I think is an important life skill.
It is something I've not been very good at. My
hobby is learning, and I learned to channel that. But
people who love to hunt love to fish. I think
it's an important part of good sound mindset. Kyle, you're up, go.
What should people learn in school that they don't now?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I've got a long laundry list, But my biggest pet
peeve is learning how to hold a writing instrument, how
to form a letter, and how to write and cursive.
Three children that can do neither, and they're all in
their twenties, and it just drives me crazy whenever they
send me a note. There are two used to being
on the computer or their phone, and they don't learn
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the the basic forming a letter. You know, it's crazy
they don't teach that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Kyle, let me ask you something, and I'm not disagreeing,
but I've given this some thought. Why is it important
that children learn cursive?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Because the best form of saying thank you is a
personal handwritten note you're drop in the mailbox.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
But you can write a hand novel note that is printed.
I've asked myself this and I can't come up with
a good answer. I wish somebody would answer this for
me and help me out.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I just believe it looks more formal and as opposed
to thanks and block lettering. You know, yeah, I suppose
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I suppose you're right for me. I didn't give you
my answer because I wanted to hear yours for me.
There's something unique about each person's cursive. Is it loopy?
Is is it tight? Is it does it lean like italics?
Do they press hard or light? I find all of
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those things to be, you know, part of our signature,
part of our DNA, part of our individuality, and I
find that interesting. All right, Gay, Dave and Heather, y'all
hold on for just a moment. And we have phone
lines that just opened up seven three, nine, one thousand.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
They're all duncans, And do you know duncan means your y'oll.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I got an email in the break from a full name. Okay,
he's Greg, his son is Michael, and I had asked
on Facebook for people, as I often do, to send
me quirky unique startup businesses. Businesses are nostalgia businesses that
(08:55):
our owner occupied, owner operated. Interesting business callers, Hold just
a moment, You're right, with you, and he sent me
an email he said, our son is the founder of
a company called Pero Pa. Ro started it from scratch.
It's a marketplace for accounting professionals. It matches accountants their
(09:15):
skill sets with clients in need of fractional services. So
if you think of Percento Technologies, which has been a
sponsor of my show for probably fifteen years, Romo, I
said my show, I'm at our show, me and Chad.
Percento Technologies was built on the concept that many companies,
even mid sized companies, don't have the IT prowess. They
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don't have a robust enough IT presence to handle the
growth and development. And you know that. Let's say they're
going out to spend a million dollars on technology, just
just upgrading computers, which is what Ramone's wife does for
Texas law Shield, just buying all new computers. Okay, are
we going to deploy those? How are we going to
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do those? How are we going to make it scalable?
How are we staying up with where we're going to
be in a year? I mean, you know, you feel
bad when you're the guy that buys a year model
of a car and you don't get a discount because
that model's going away, and two months later they flip
to a new model and your car looks ten years old.
You're bummed out right. Well, it's even worse with computers,
and now you've got security because you got all these hacks,
(10:25):
you got ransomware and all that and performance, speed and
everything that goes with that. So percento is based on
the idea that you have an IT department that you
can't afford full time, and you pay a for fractional
interest of their you know, fractional services, because you don't
need a guy at three hundred thousand dollars a year
or whatever they make full time half the time he's
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goofing off. You just need a part of what he's doing.
And I would think that would be true with accounting,
I suppose. I mean, I keep my accountants pretty busy
at a partners because I want to look at strategically
making good decisions, not just complying with tax codes. I
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don't want to I don't want to push the limits
because I have a target on my back. But I
also don't want to miss out on things that are obvious.
So I need full time accounting services. Some folks that
are small. I would assume probably only need a little bit,
and they would be below the threshold of Darroche Partners.
I get a lot of emails from people who will say, hey,
(11:29):
can you send me to your accountants? And I vet
them for Deroche because they're meant for high net worth
individuals and mid sized companies and above. They're not efficient
or cost efficient for a guy just trying to do
his personal taxes. So you know, I think there's probably
a niche somewhere in there below what Deroche Partners does.
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All right, Gay Dave, you're up?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Mornings are they need to teach the US Constitution and
for at least the whole year so people understand it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, you know, I wonder you know a lot of
people will tell me, do you grow up in Texas? No?
Speaker 6 (12:13):
I didn't. I grew up in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's gay. Do you know that you have you have? Hey?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Can I tell you?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
But hold on, I want to tell you this. You
have become such a resource for our show that every
time something comes up, Ramone will say you should ask
Gay Dave, like, what what is like? There will be
something that happens and he'll say, we don't have good gaytor.
You should ask gay Dave what he thinks about that,
But I don't want to, you know, I don't want
to ask you too many questions. But ramone's best.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
I can I tell you? Can I tell you a
quick story about a cursive writing about what? When I
was in eighth grade? Yeah, cursive writing story. When I
was in eighth grade, I had a history teacher and
not an English teacher. A history teachers to take off
a point every time I would write partly in print
and not incursive on her tests. So I get one
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hundred on the tests and end up with like an eighty.
So one day she's writing on the truck board and
what does she do. She does exactly what she's to
take every every point off for. And I stood up there,
like you hip a creat I went off on her
right and then she started like yelling back. And then
this kid, Jason Cardon, who never gets in trouble, gets
up and starts defending me. His mom was a teacher
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in the school, and she kicks us both out of class.
Who went to We had to go see the scariest
principle ever had mister Dorney this big bowl of a man.
So we get in there and he's like, what are
you two doing in here? And I tell him the story.
He marches us back to class and he pulls her
in the hallway and he starts going off on her.
And I was like, oh my god, this is awesome.
It's like the best moment and shut up. She came
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back in with the red face and for the rest
of the year she I mean she hated me anyway,
but she really really hated me. But it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I love it. Thank you, Gay Dave. So, this this
cursive issue keeps coming up, and look, I can say, yes,
the kids all have to learn cursive. Cursive is important,
but I think it's very important that you be able
to question positions you have and answer them as if
someone else had asked it answered you. So I said earlier,
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why is it important that kids learn cursive? I hope
they learn cursive because I learned cursive, right. I hope
they think Dan Pastorini's a great guy, because I think
Dan Pastorin's a great guy. But I don't know that
it's going to make a difference to a kid's future.
I hope they think the oilers were the coolest team
in the NFL. But I don't think it's going to
make a difference. And if they don't, then I don't
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think that's really a position I actould be taken up.
So I asked the question, why is it important the
kids learn cursive? I don't disagree, but let's ask questions.
And I keep getting emails from people saying they have
to be able to read the founding documents. I got
ten emails to that effect. In the first break, can
you honestly tell me Ramon? I'll ask you. I want
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you to be honest. Have you read the Declaration of
Independence in the original cursive?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You haven't, and you're a history buff and I'm going
to tell you something else. And people don't want to
hear this. Nobody has. When I say nobody, it's a
rounding error because it's less than one percent. Oh no, no, no,
you've looked at the document during a ken Burn's documentary
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when they scrolled across the screen. You've seen pictures of it,
and you know you've seen the couple of the letters,
because if you've actually read it, you should be able
to tell me which letters that we use today were
not used as such. In the original. Let's just take
to that the ration of independence, because people tell me
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that's important because they don't use the exact spelling. There
are certain letters we use today that they did not
use in that form at that time, and you don't
know that. Do you know why you don't know that?
Because you didn't read that in cursive. It's also very
hard to read their script because they have a very flowing,
languid style of writing. So what happened? Somebody typed that up?
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You know what typing is. It's print. It's easier to read.
There's a reason you don't read books in cursive. Now.
I know we're all supposed to say I miss cursive,
I miss cursing, but I think that's some people are saying.
If the old documents are the reason you're not reading
old documents cursive, I guarantee you I've got.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Nothing going on down there, probably.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But it strikes me as interesting how many people get
angry if you simply question someone my favorite chocolate that
is where I went to school? Is it? Yes? What
were you just saying? I don't my favorite food? Is chocolate? Really?
Is it?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yet? Why would it be? Is it's that's all as
the English will saying, is it? It's almost like Okay,
So Ramon started asking me questions during the break and said,
you should tell that on the air. That's interesting, and
I said, I think it's boring, but I'll tell it
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on the air anyway. So people keep emailing me, Hockel
the kids have to learn cursive so they can read
the original documents. Okay, I'm going to buy in on that. Look,
I think they should learn cursive to preserve history. I
just want to be very clear what we're saying, what
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we're not if it's I think certain aspects of history
should be preserved. An urn remains a monument, but I
think it's important to understand that we're preserving them out
of vanity, out of tradition, and those things are also important.
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Rituals are preserved. We preserve some rituals solely because they
are a ritual. They are a direct connection to the
past that we must not be broken. It must remain unbroken.
I don't know why, because it's important. It's who we are,
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it's our identity. But I do find it interesting how
many people say they gotta be outad it old documents,
which ones declarats re independence. Okay, have you read it
incursive in the original script? I have? You haven't. I
guarantee you haven't. Okay, if you have, what did you
notice it was odd about it? There's a letter used
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there that we don't use. We haven't used in forever.
I think the Broadside Dictionary still use. Nobody else uses it.
You've never seen this letter written. There is a letter
very prominent in there. And not only is it very prominent,
it extends above the other lower case letters and below
the lower case letters. It screams out, look at me,
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look at me. I'm the dork that goes and looks
at this document. That's not a humble brag. That is
to tell you that nobody else does. It's weird. Nobody does.
The words are so established in print so many times
and unquestioned for two hundred and fifty years. Nobody is
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going Nobody is saying, well, you're gonna have life and liberty,
but that's all we're giving you. No, we get to
have happiness too, which was supposed to be prosperity. By
the way, in the original it was incursive. We won't
happiness too. No, Doctor Rice of Independence doesn't grant you
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how happiness, just life and liberty it does, and swear
it does. Show me. Let me go get my cursive copy.
Well says right here, just life and liberty. It's printed
out full stop. There's no happiness. Oh man, y'all change
the words on us. I got an original incursive somewheres
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and it said happiness. I'm sure it said it. Nope,
this is a document. It's not even questioned. No one
is questioning those documents that were written in cursive. But
you have only ever read in print. I guarantee you
you've only ever read them in print. And I'll give
you an example. There is something that our history nerds
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in the crowd will know. It is called a long
S so little quirk. And this is why I told you, Ramona.
It's no point in me telling the story. It's very boring,
but I'm gonna tell you because you pissed me off.
So Originally incursive, the letter S would only ever appear
at the end of a word. The letter S in
the middle or at the beginning of a word lower
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case would never appear as an S. It was it
would appear as an F. Follow me on the F
an F that had a big curly queue at the top,
like a like a cane. Right, you were holding a cane,
and so it goes straight up and it would arc
over to the right, and it would come all the
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way down and it would arc to the left and
curl back up, kind of look like a seahorse. Okay,
so that F is not actually an F. And the
difference is when you crossed that F in the middle,
you would only cross it to the to the main
of the F. You wouldn't go across. And that was
known in the printing industry as a long S. It
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would stand out because it was taller than the other
letters and went lower than the other letters, and that
distinguished it because an S could only be used at
the end of a word. If you read the word
congress in the original Constitution, you will notice that it
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looks like con gr f s. It looks like congress.
If you don't know that, because it is so striking
the first time you read it, then you didn't read
the Constitution incursive. And I'm not trying to be the
nerd on the front row. I'm simply pointing out there
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are many many people who haven't learned cursive, who have
performed just fine. Example, calligraphy died off. I don't do calligraphy.
I think it's awesome, it'd be a thing I think
we should we should preserve. Okay, there are dead languages,
and it's unfortunate that there are dead languages for which
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we've lost the ability to read the great texts because
the language itself, not the manner of writing it, not
the manner of convey that's different. Nobody is suggesting we're
losing English. I'm not saying we shouldn't learn cursive. I'm
just saying, don't repeat something you heard other people say
because some Fox News host had a segment on it
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and you thought, yeah, we got bail to read the declaration.
You're reading the Declaration in the same way that every
other American reads it, and that is printed out or
on a screen. There are so many of those quirks,
so many things that we never read. I've read I
don't know how much by Adam Smith, but never in
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his handwriting. You go to Monticello and you see Jefferson's writing.
Jefferson had the first Xerox machine. It was a contraption
where when you wrote, there was a rod that came
up and went over and went down, and it mirrored
the page there. So whatever he wrote, he had a
duplicate copy of brilliant. And so you sit there and
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you read it to see how close is that to
the original, and you go, I can't tell, because I
can't read what he's writing. I don't think I'm smarter
than the average bear, but I don't think i'm dumber.
You go, try to read the journals of Thomas Jefferson.
You can't. You can't. It's like a doctor's writing. Now
they could because in the time they wrote in this style,
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we've lost forms of cursive over two and a half centuries.
I don't know why I allowed myself to be pushed
into a corner as some person standing on the principle
of nobody reads cursive. I think because I can't stand
for arguments to be repeated without any thought given to
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it because someone else said it and nobody ever stops
to give it thought. But I am for teaching cursive,
and my kids do write and read cursive. I just
think you can survive just fine without it going forward.
And I'll leave that at that. I could have just
said that, and then you aggravated me during the break,
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and then I got out there and I got a
bunch of old ladies going. I'm not sure imming to
listen to Michael Berry anymore. I thought he was on
our team. You know, he wasn't for Trump at the beginning.
I remember, he wasn't for Trump. He's come around, but
you know, now he's over there. Shoot, he's he don't
even want cursive no more. I don't know what he thinks.
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He wasn't for Trump. Remember he talked about it and
he was, and now he's over there. We don't need cursive.
You've got some upside down f I don't give a
damn I learned curs If you ought it's Michael Berry's
formal aware.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
We have all your formalware needs, from morning suits to
coordinating accessories.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Out of time.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
The best explanation I have heard, and it comes from
a law man friend of mine. Cursive is important zar
because it strengthens cognitive development, It enhances fine motor skills
for kids, and it boosts their overall literacy. I'm not
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sure that's even true, but that's very impressive. That's an
actual reason. It just makes me crazy when people say
things without any consideration for what they say in never
having thought about it, and then you challenge it and
they pitch a fit. Got to be able to read
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the declaration is the lamest answer ever. You don't care
about the declaration? Well if reading the Declaration of Independence
incursive is how you prove whether you care about the declaration.
You don't care about the declaration because you've not read
it incursive, and I'm willing to go on the It's
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one of those things like cow tipping or any number
of other things that people will say they've done, and
when you really get down to it, well, yeah, maybe yes,
Like why you love water burger? It's right there.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Tell me something that you love about where you live?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
What burger?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Okay, great, tell me about it right now?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, all right, just no, just tell me about it.
You're gonna love water burgern. Oh it's the best. What
makes it the best? Wherever you are, there's a water Burger?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, it's always right there.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And then when you get there, what do you like
about it?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What do you get? Whatever you want?
Speaker 6 (27:35):
You could order whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Then, right, But there are a lot of places like that.
So let's say there's a McDonald's, a Burger King a
sonic and a waterburger all lined up?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Which one do you go to?
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Right? Why? Okay, here's another one. I can respect because
this is an honest answer. I favor cursif out of
my own enjoyment of its conveyance of personality and uniqueness.
I also believe it has become a comical way to
(28:10):
communicate openly among younger code workers, like a secret code.
One of Cursiff's flaws is also its benefit. I've observed
the preferred usage of cursif amongst individuals who have poor spelling.
They can scribble the first two and last two letters
and everything in between is their unique penmanship. If you
cannot admit you have done that in your life, you
(28:32):
know what that's the equivalent of in the gud Dunn
Yeah baby. How many songs do we not know all
the words?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
There's a little girl in our neighborhood noon tun to
Johnson and good good good yeah, uh head go and
see done and none and none dude brother was making
chicken in the frying pot, and her grandma was that
(29:06):
is what that is.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Cursive allows you that, doctor Wright. Yeah. I did hear
from a lot of mommies that their kids have dysgraphia
and dyslexia, and apparently cursive helps with that, which is cool.
I like that. I don't deny it. I don't know
one way or another. The most surprising, I guess not
surprising because we've had this conversation before. Chad Knakanishi is
(29:31):
an enigma. He's a fascinating cat because his brain processor
because he's half Japanese, is really really good. He's really
really smart, but his spelling is really really bad. And
it's a running joke. And he's the first to tell you.
He said, I can't read cursive. So the problem I've
come across is that I love to pull and collect
my family history. However, when I pull old family histories
(29:54):
like my great grandparents marriage license below which he's attached,
I have to ask one of my sisters to quote
unquote translate some of the cursive. Not saying kids should
or shouldn't learn cursive, but it is one of my
personal struggles. Even the Census is incursive. By the way,
several of you mentioned the Census and you wouldn't be
able to read the census. Credit to you. I thought
(30:15):
that was an interesting one. This is the nineteen forty
Census of my great grandparents and their kids. It's especially
confusing to me because I knew them all by their
generic American names Janet, Mildred, Thomas, Norman, Pauline, Robert, and Earl,
but their legal Japanese names are listed in the census,
which I've had to learn thanks to help translating. I
(30:39):
love these conversations. I think it's fascinating, just fascinating, how
we retain records, how we go back and access those records,
because they're not just records. They're not just writing on
a paper. They're who we are. They are our DNA.
That's not just a name on a paper. That is
our DNA. You know, Sandy Peterson's making a sour dough bread.
(31:01):
She might have already made it, and she said that
the that the whatever you call it, the cure, the whatever,
the seedling of it. You know, when you get the
sar dough brand and you bring it home, it's whatever,
that little clump of it that it is. It's two
hundred and fifty years old. I don't know where she
found it. I mean, you think about you know, you
propagate a flower with you propagate a tree. You think
(31:23):
about you know how an animal passes one to the next,
to the next to the next, and in three hundred
years this is the lineage. That's some deep stuff, man,
that's really really deep stuff. And that these are the
documents you access to get there. I find that to
be very cool. All right, you folks have to be
fast so I can get all of you on. So
what is the thing they don't teach in school that
(31:44):
they should? I think this is handwriting because it's all women. See,
you can tell topics by sex. Men are like handwriting
and dumb ass, just blurn cursive. Women are going but
dyslexia and dysgraphia and the census because ninety eight point
six percent of people who do UH ancestry studies are women. Teresa,
(32:06):
go ahead, Hi, Michael, Okay, what should they teach that
they're not teaching? Go ahead, sweetheart.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
Well, I still believe in teaching writing by script because
it strengthens the eye hand brain connection, and it creates
neural pathways for your brain.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
So you're second or third or tenth person to say that,
how do you know that.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
I read it about twenty years ago?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Did you?
Speaker 8 (32:41):
I have no I read it in a printed book.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Are you are you a former teacher? Pardon me, are
you a former teacher?
Speaker 8 (32:54):
No, I'm a nurse.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Nurse okay, but I at homeschool with my kids a
couple of times, like different My different children had different
problems in school, and just to sort of assist them,
I at homeschooled them. And where we lived in Canada,
they had a great provincial system where they could give
you all the materials for the curriculum that year, and
(33:19):
so basically it was all pre set, pre done. You know,
you took the pages at the beginning of the week
out of the big binder, put them in the smaller binders,
and that's all they have to do for that day.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I miss binders. I still use binders. I have binders
all around me. I have tabs, they're all marked off,
and people will say to me, you can put all
that on the computer. I know, I know. I love binders.
I love flipping through binders. My show sponsors for each
letter of the alphabet I have. You know, A is
(33:55):
Allied siding in you know, windows and Allied Custom roof
and all Star Construction and Allied outdoors, and then you know,
you go to B and you go to C. And
you and I enjoy turning the pages like a I
don't know. It's a connection to the past, and it's tactile.
I can touch it, I can turn it. I'm looking
(34:18):
at my screen. I've received over three hundred emails on cursive, fascinating,
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