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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Varry Show is on the air show whoa
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oh de rainbo Scas is Booth.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
State Representative Brian Harrison, I think makes a very good point.
You know, the Republicans don't leave the state. Republicans stay
and do their job. What we are seeing with Democrats
breaking quorum and fleeing the state. We saw this a
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few years ago when they went to Ardmore, Oklahoma, and
then and then New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I believe it was.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's a bigger issue, it's a more existential issue. It's
a question. Politics does not typically lend itself to a bigger,
overarching principle, and I think it would be healthier if
we did.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There is there's a book called.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Of Human Bondage, and the protagonist of the book is
a little boy named Philip Carey. I don't remember if
how his parents died or if he was given up,
I don't remember, but you follow this little boy in
his mindset, and he ends up getting handed off to.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
A very very strict.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Calvinist of some denomination and his wife, old fashioned family,
and the man and woman are much older, and they
have no tolerance for children.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And this kid. And in the midst of this all,
this child is left to his own thoughts.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And he creates this sort of Rube Goldberg type apparatus
in his mind where he decides that he's going to
think about how he feels about things, and then issues
present themselves, he'll simply put it into the machine and
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it'll spit out the answer. And it's how I have
tried to suggest over the years, we step back from
the games Karl Rove will have you playing and twisting
yourself into a pretzel over issues, and instead ask yourself
how you really feel about issues that transcend what's in
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the news today. For instance, who should direct the course
of a person's life, that person or the collective. Now,
most people at this point will say, well, that person,
that's liberty, Michael, the natural right of self determination. I agree,
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all right, that person wants to go live up in
the mountains, away from the community that's down in the
valley where we've all grat gravitated because there's density there
for commerce, for marriage, for worship, for taxing, for common defense.
Do you still allow him to go live up in
the mountain away from us, all not harming us, leaving
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the community. Well, I suppose, but who's going to do
his portion? Okay, you've just said that he owes a
duty to the whole, to the collective, to do what,
to defend, to engage in commerce, to marry somebody, to
dig the ditches, to pay the taxes. All right, So
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we started with the overarching theme of self determination. But
we've already broken down. When a guy doesn't want to
live with us, we've said, we don't like to admit it,
we control you. You have to live amongst us because
we need you to carry on some tasks that we
need for the community. So you don't have total self control.
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Your natural rights given by God, not government. That's us
where the collective, they do not transcend or exceed our desire.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
For you to carry your part.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That breakdown, right there, can account for some very simple issues.
When I say you shouldn't be required to wear a
helmet on a motorcycle when the only person you harm
should you have an accident is yourself. I get a
lot of people, most of them women. It's a natural
women are more protective, caretaker, less risk taking. And women
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will say, but you'll get hurt. Yes, that is your
natural right given by God to make a decision for
yourself as to whether or not you get whether you
exacerbate the damage of a motorcycle accident should you have one.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It is you are not his mother. You do not
get to make rules for him. He does.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We've made the information available. You're more likely to be
harmed or cared on a motorcycle without a helmet, so
now you don't need to make laws to require him
to wear a helmet. And then we enter section two. Now,
this is the least the least principled argument that can
be made, and this is when you realized. You realize
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that most people don't stand on principle. They don't know
where they stand. They don't have principles that guide them
that are unbreakable. They just kind of look around and
pick and choose what their opinion is on things, and
many of those opinions are indefensible. The second argument I
will get, this is what I'm getting to, is, well, yeah,
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he can choose whether to get an accident or not,
but if he gets his head banged up and he
doesn't have insurance, then he's going to end up in
the hospital and I'm gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Okay, how about this.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
How about we pass a law to make you happy
that says you don't have to wear a helmet. You
have the natural right given by God to determine your
own course of your own life, not harming anyone else.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Unless you don't have insurance.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
If you don't have insurance, then we're gonna require you
to wear a helmet.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Is that what we'll do? Well, that's too hard for
the cops to figure out.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Who Oh, okay, so we'll just make the law real
simple so the cops aren't bothered.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Got it all right? Well, how about this?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
How about the fact that the moment you started covering
health care for people who do not plan ahead and
pay for it themselves, you put yourself into a situation
where you now start ruling the lives of other people
because God forbid, they take more than their piece of
the pie. Now you've got a guy who's going to
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end up need to use the health care system. And
all I care about is I'm paying for the healthcare
system because I allowed Obama to run my healthcare system.
And so if you're going to give free health care
to a guy that busts his head up, I don't
want him bust in his head up. Well, for that matter,
shouldn't we pass on all sorts of laws. Do you
know how many kids end up in the emergency room
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from playing youth sports. We've got to do away with
that to protect our investment and motorcycles, let's just outlaw
motorcycles generally, because you end up having accidents and four
wheelers and anything else that might be considered dangerous because
we want to save money, and that's how you end
up with stupid positions without principle. I think we're due
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for and I truly believe, Lona and I've been doing
our own I truly believes over the last couple of days.
We'll open the phone lines now, probably not get to
it till the next segment, but if you want to
be on be ready.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'll ask what do you truly believe?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And you say I truly believe, and then you say
it in a few seconds.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
This is not a chance for a.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Diatribe of multi list item your magnus opus or fifteen
reasons why just to I truly believe on a serious
or not item.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Seven one three, nine, nine, nine, one thousand.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
A new poll has gone into the field that means
the calls are being made right now. Gauging Wesley Hunt's
entry into the Senate race. It asks questions like what
would happen if President Trump were to endorse Wesley Hunt.
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It also tests negative messaging against John Cornyan.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So here's part of the poll.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Now you're going to read some brief statements that you
might hear during the campaign for US Senate.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
For each statement, please.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Indicate whether this information would make you more likely to
vote against or for that candidate, or if it makes
no difference either way in.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
How you might vote. One of the questions.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
After nearly two decades in the Senate and a grab
for party leadership, Cornan has morphed into the ultimate Washington elite,
out of touch with the conservative base he is supposed
to represent. There's a lot of reasons for a pole
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like this, and it could be coming from a number
of different places. It could be coming from a draft
Wesley Hunt movement, and there is a group of people
who would like to get Wesley Hunt into the race.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
These are people who don't like.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Cornan but don't like Paxton, or don't think Paxton can
win next November, or yeah, those are the two big ones.
And then there are just folks that really like Wesley Hunt.
That messaging, right there is not messaging that comes from
Cornyn's camp, because that almost sounds like what's called a
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push pole. A push pole is where under the guise
of a pole you're calling and spreading rumors. They would
go like this, and this is not true. So if
you found out that John Cornyn was gay and had
murdered three of his neighbors and got the cops to
cover it up, would you still vote for him? And
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the ends of course is no. It'd be interesting to
know who would still say yes. But so what that
a poll like that is intended to do is put
that into the mind of people who then go repeat it. Hey,
did you know that Cornan's gay and murdered three of
his neighbors. Well, no, it's not. Well I don't know
it's true or not, but I don't think he murdered
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three of his neighbors. But the point is planting that
seed in the mind of people. And then you take
the poll results and say, seventy eight or in this case,
ninety three percent of Republican primary voters called three rs
you voted three times in the Republican primary.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You're going to vote this time.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Ninety three percent of repeat Republican voters say they will
not vote for Cornan. Well, well, if you just get
that result, you might go, oh, corn is even more
unpopular than I've thought because he's unpopular. He's not that unpopular,
so that borders on a push poll. But in any case,
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this is what consultants do. This is why when you
see a pole that says, you know, fifty eight percent
of people believe this, you have to understand that unless
you drill down and.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Look at the actual question that was asked.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Many poles are conducted, you basically purchase a percentage.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Hey, I need a poll. I want it to be believable.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I don't want to say ninety nine percent of people
hate John Cornyn.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I wanted to say only twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Percent would vote for him, or whatever that number may be,
and you can purchase a pole that would come out
with that.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The funny thing about this example is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That Corning's crew is a crew who does that against THEIRS,
as opposed to it happening to him. You're testing that
messages that that message there, which means either Cornyan is
in the field, trying to figure out, I know this
is what they're going to say about me. Let me
see how people respond. Maybe, but his negatives are so
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high you don't need to pump them anymore. This could
be a pro Wesley Hunt poll that is saying, hey,
if I go after Cornan on this basis, can I
can I land some strikes here with these are the
things we expect to run against Cornan?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And the third one could be Paxton.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It could be Paxton seeing, hey can I get Can
I defeat Cornyan with? Which message should I push? He's
been in DC too long, He's no longer in touch here.
He made a graph for the leadership and lost. He
works against Donald Trump. He's never done anything on a
legal immigration other than to cut our efforts. So what
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you're doing before you go spending you know, ten million
dollars a pop on TV and radio, you're testing which
message makes the biggest difference. Now that's pretty obvious and
you can figure that out for yourself. The question here
is does this come from Hunts people trying to figure
out if he has enough people trying to figure out
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whether to push him into the race or not, Because
he's got to support of a lot of people, or
does it come from Paxton who knows he's running against
Cornan and wants to see what the entry of Wesley
Hunt into the race potentially would would would affect that
if he were to see that only one percent of
the people would vote for Hunt. If Hunt got in,
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then you leave Hunt alone. You just focus on Cornan,
and now you know where to focus on Cornan. If
it says, hey, between Paxton and Cornyn, seventy four percent
would go for Paxton and you know twenty six percent
for Cornyn. However, if Hunt gets in the race, then
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it's tied. Now you turn the artillery and you start
hitting Hunt, because you can't hit everybody at once, and
if you're going to spend a bunch of money on
radio and TV hitting primary voters, you want the right
message and you want to be attacking the right candidate.
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If Hunt gets in the race, I have to think
that Wesley's not going to get in the race unless
he's pretty sure that Corn's getting out, or that the
intree of Hunt into the race would push Cornin out,
because now it's a referendum on Cornin and Paxton wins
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that easily. If Hunt gets in the race. Then the
argument becomes it's a referendum on Paxton, and Hunt has
to win that repe for Endom. The anti Cornyan vote
has always been Paxton's lane. If Paxton doesn't have that
lane to himself, Hunt has to get in and attack
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Cornyn and attack Paxton. It becomes very interesting, all right.
It's not truly believe coming up seven one, three, nine, nine, nine, one.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Thousand, but Michael Berry's show to your Life, you know this.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's I truly believe Howard Stern's contract has not been
renewed with Serious XM after twenty years. Several folks asking
for my opinion on that. If we have time, I
will share it before the.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Show is over. Go Broke is only part of the equation,
but it is a big part. To be clear. He
went very weird, very very weird.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Insane amounts of money can make a man crazy, they
really can.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Michael Barry Show presents are truly.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
All right, get right to it, be quick, George, you're
on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
What do you truly believe?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I truly believe that the Democrats of the deep State
killed the late Great Handey Scalia back in twenty sixteen,
it was probably interesting. We don't get calls from Cebe
radios very often. I was invited to the ranch where
Scalia died. Uh the individual who was hosting Anton and
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Scalia and that fella, I mean, obviously he bears no.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Sure he felt horrible about the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I've often wondered, though, I've often wondered who did have
something to do with that, or whether Anton's kally are
the greatest Supreme Court justice of all time? If he
died naturally, I don't know. I do have questions. Caleb,
you're up, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I could believe everyone that's able and capable of doing
it should live out their dream. Chase chase your dream,
because not everybody gets too.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Thank you, sir, you bet.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I read something this morning. It's one of these feel
good quotes that women pass around, but I thought it
was good, simple wisdom, and it said, fall in love
with your life. Wake up early, buy your favorite coffee,
go for walks, eat good food, wear what makes you
feel confident, and listen to your favorite music. Purposefully create
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these small moments that make you fall in love with
your life. I know it sounded like such a woman
thing that they would send around today, I'm going to
be happy or I'm in love with us, sir, you
know those sorts of stupid things. But it's true, you
know it does bum me out. I'm kind of a
control free so when people are overly anxious or overly
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worried or overly sour, I will say, Hey, I want
to turn that frown upside down. Won't we find some
happiness in that. Let's think of something you really enjoy doing.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And let's do that.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Let's have some ice cream, Let's watch the Astros, Let's
listen to whatever your favorite band is. Let's put ourselves
into a good mood and choose to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No, can't do it. Can't No, can't do it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And it does strike me that many people choose sadness, melancholy, resentment, anger,
when occasionally there's nothing wrong with actually enjoying the moment
you have because there aren't many of them. Greg, You're
only Michael Berry show go ahead, Greg.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Hey, Michael, thanks for taking my call. Hey, speaking of bands,
I truly believe one of my favorite bands, one of
the best bands in drummer is Easy Top and Frank Beard.
I recently seen you were backstayed with Frank Beard at
Red Rocks. I was just curious, one, are your takeaways
from that?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Do you know Frank?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I do not?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Okay, Well, I was told, oh sorry.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I was told that Frank and his sons, Nico and
Rory were fans of the show, and they'd offered for
us to get together. They live out in Richmond, and
we have a mutual friend named Cody Johnson, and he's
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the one that told me this. And so I love
the idea of getting together with people, but my schedule
it's sort of like if you're the quarterback for the
Texans and you're in the middle of two days, you'd
like to go see Elvis or Don Henley or whoever's
being offered for you to meet, But when are you
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going to do it? Because you just don't have a
spare moment. And that's just the way it is. That's
the way I've ordered my life. So when I do
something whimsical, it's because at that moment I have enough
energy that I can blow off some steam and go
do it. But I don't like to plan things because
sometimes I'm just exhausted and I end up in situations
where I don't want to be. And this is a
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marathon now, not a sprint for me. And as I've
gotten older, I've had to understand that five days a week,
five hours a day is a long schedule, and so
I resist the urge to go and do things. Well,
I messed around and didn't get it done. Find out
they're going to be in Red Rocks. I'm offered to
get to come and hang out backstage. And I've never
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never been to Red Rocks, never seen it's easy top.
How could you not do that? So we went and
it was a hell of a time. Frank was the
most gracious, kind guy. It was kind of weird. I'm
not going to use words surreal because people use that
word because it's the only word we can think of
in that moment. But I'm walked into his green room
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and you know, Red Rocks is in the side of
a mountain. I'm walked into his green room and I
walk in there and his son Rory, walks me in
and then turns and kind of walks away. And so
I'm standing in front of Frank and he says, hey, Michael,
like we're old friends, and he says, sit down, and
so I sit down and we have a good chat.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And then he pulls out these shoes.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
He's black, like weird, kind of soft felt shoes. And
I said, what are those? And he says, my drumming shoes.
Apparently drummers wear special shoes. I hadn't thought about this,
and so I said would it be weird if I
picked them up? And he said not at all. So
I picked it up and the thing is falling apart.
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It's a very light cloth. It's like a house shoe
you might wear. It's made by Simpson. I posted a
picture of him to Facebook and this shoe is so
ripped and shredded. I said, Frank, how old is this?
Then he said forty five years got him an eighty.
Oh my goodness. So we just sat and talked and
and the best time we got to stand his sons
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or his or the texts for the guitar and drum
and all that, the texts for the band, and so
how cool is that there's four buses that they travel on.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Billy has a bus.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Elwood, who was Dusty's guitar tech who replaced Duck Dusty
within a week of Dusty dying, which crazy Pablo, Pablo
and Elwood ride in one bus Pablo is the tour manager.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
He's from Costa Rica. And then the crew.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
They only have a crew of six people for a
band that big. They have three members of the band
and six crew. They travel with fewer than ten people.
That's unheard of if you've ever seen big shows, Aerosmith,
the Stones, all that, because it's a big sound, a
lot of equipment. And then the final bus to fourth
bus is Frank and his two sons, and so here
he is seventy five years old getting to travel around
the country with his two sons. It's a pretty neat deal.
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One of the sons, Nico, is a marine. They both
went into the Marines. Rory was released because in between
the time that he signed up and he got there,
he got lasick. And I've heard this story before and
they did not want it's a different physical, so you
have to go through the whole thing. They sent him
on his way and he went on tour with his
dad and his brother joined him, and there they were.
I thought he was gracious, I thought he was cool.
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I thought he was wonderful. He opened up about his
career and drumming and all that, and then the next
morning at our hotel, they summoned Cody Johnson, who's our buddy,
and they asked Cody to come to their hotel and
he came back with my signed drumsticks and.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The drum what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Drum Yeah, drumhead that he had signed beat to hell,
by the way, and the drum sticks would beat to hell.
So yeah, I'm mildly in love with Frank Beard. And
I've always loved Zazy Top.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I thought he was awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And his sons, Nico and Rory too, They were just
awesome people.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
The whole Zeezy Top experience is amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Because you know, here's the drummer wearing shoes that he
bought forty five years ago. The microphone that Billy Gibbons
uses is rusted. So Rory Beard, Frank's son, unhooks it.
It's the same mic we use, and he unhooks it
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and he hands it to me and I said, wow,
how does he get this rusted patina?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And he said, well, he brought it home.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
He threw it out in the yard and a month
later he went out picked.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It up, said that'll do.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We plugged it in, we tested it, we had another
in case it didn't work, and that's what we use.
What about the other one did the same And the
mike stand Billy's is just a touch Taller noted that
two inches tall. The mic stand is a foe rust
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done down the side of him with grooves cut out
in a light inside of it. But if you saw
this microphone at a garage cell, nobody told you that's
Billy Gibbons microphone right there that he just played last night.
Today we put it in the garage cell. You'd say, no,
that's an old, busted up, rusted microphone. I don't want
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that microphone. But it was his cookie. Haven's the grandmother
of the young man who's one of the stars for
the Nadville Little League. They're playing in juniors today. That's
the year after the twelve year old little League that
we all know, says our boys are playing today at
one pm, Texas time in the World Series, which look well.
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I have asked her to tell me if that game
is going to be broadcast, and if it is.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I will find out and share with you the details.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I told you that Lamar little League, the voice from Richmond,
will be playing in the league World Series.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I think that's a week from today.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Miss Gary Mcklelhannon says, I got a ticket for not
wearing a seat belt, so I called Percy Foreman to
take my case. He said, little lady, I don't take
cases like that, but when you shoot someone, call me. Obviously,
that was a long time ago, so I went to
court pro see that means defending yourself, and the case
was tossed out because the policeman who gave me the
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ticket was not there. It's an I truly believe, and
Lisa is our first call. Lisa, sweetheart, what do you
truly believe?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I truly believe that there are deep state evil people
in every government agency and their job.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Is just to chick us off.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You're right about the first, but there's no profit to
ticking you off. You being ticked off is a byproduct
of the real reason they do it, which is to
assert control and monetize the gains. People get very very
rich off of the actions they take which just happen
to tick you off. They do a lot of things
you don't know about that would tick you off, but
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they don't bother to tell you even though that would
tick you off. Ticking you off is not in and
of itself a profitable endeavor worth their time. It's a
necessary byproduct that they will fade the heat on.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I truely believe being a dog owner is better than
having a cat.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I never got the whole cat thing.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I've kind of softened on cats as I've gotten older,
because when you have a place out in the country,
cats can be very useful with regard to snakes and
rats and things. And they're very very useful. You know,
you get a good barn cat and they will keep
that barn relatively free of the stuff you don't want
out there, and that is very very useful. Oh, Gary
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McFarland Wright Simpson makes shoes for race car drivers. That's
what those shoes look like. That's it, the race car driver.
I couldn't remember what the shoes were for.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, it was race car drivers.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Did we go to Eric?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Okay, Well, then I'll tell my Howard Stern answer. Several
people asked my thoughts on Howard Stern. Well, first, let's
talk about the Howard Stern economic model. When Stern came out,
he was what used to be called a shock jock,
pure and simple, he embraced it.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Everybody knew it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And that was a guy who played a lot of
music on rock stations in the New York metropolitan area,
which he didn't stay there, but that's where that was
the biggest audience that he was going to find, and
that's where he naturally Billy and and in New York.
And he was pretty good at it. He is by result.
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He's a very good interviewer. There's no doubting that he's
one of the best interviewers of all time of famous people.
And the reason is he developed a brand, and the
brand was even if you're a person who does not
reveal their personal secrets, if you go on Stern, you
understand you.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Do that there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
So he got a lot of people to talk on
his show about things that they wouldn't normally. In some ways,
it was similar to Rogan in that way because it
was a very long form interview and it was celebrity driven,
interview driven, and.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
He broke He made the news a lot. Now.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Stern's big break came when he was being pushed off
of terrestrial radio. That's radio where you're most of you
unless you're on the podcast or listening to us. Now
and there were there was XIM, and there was serious
and they needed a talk show long format for truckers.
And the deal they cut with him was based on subscriptions,
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So you can't fault he didn't get overpaid. I've heard
people say he got overpaid because he made hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
He did not.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
He signed a deal that was a commission based deal.
He got to eat part of what he killed, the
numbers he generated for people who paid for XIM and
then who paid separately for his subscription. He kept a
percentage of that. You can't fault him for that. You
can't say he didn't earn that. It wasn't a Kirk Cousins.
(31:44):
You know why you paying a guy one hundred and
eighty million dollars he's not even starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It was real.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
But in time, I think that a lot of Stearn's
audience grew up. And I'm not saying he was childish
or sophomore. I think his style didn't last, and I
think that a lot of people stopped listening. And then
he fell in love with being a celebrity and doing
things other than the show, and then he went crazy.
(32:11):
He went absolutely nuts during COVID. He didn't come out.
He insulted everyone else, and I think he drove his
audience away. And the numbers are not there anymore, and
the numbers for a subscription are not there anymore. An
XM satellite doesn't have extra cash.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
To throw serious XM.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
They had to consolidate the two because there wasn't a
market enough for both of them. That last time I
saw the percentage of revenues of revenues spent on marketing
that satellite radio picked up, it was less than five.
At one point it was up to seven. And clear
Channel of the company we work for, iHeart now owns
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a percentage of it. That business model cannot afford his
dollars anymore, So good riddings. He's an ass. He's a
complete and utter ass. Aside from everything else,
It's that time time time, time, luck and load.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The Michael Varry Show is on the air show whoa
(00:47):
oh de rainbo Scas is Booth.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
State Representative Brian Harrison, I think makes a very good point.
You know, the Republicans don't leave the state. Republicans stay
and do their job. What we are seeing with Democrats
breaking quorum and fleeing the state. We saw this a
(01:17):
few years ago when they went to Ardmore, Oklahoma, and
then and then New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I believe it was.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It's a bigger issue, it's a more existential issue. It's
a question. Politics does not typically lend itself to a bigger,
overarching principle, and I think it would be healthier if
we did.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
There is there's a book called.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Of Human Bondage, and the protagonist of the book is
a little boy named Philip Carey. I don't remember if
how his parents died or if he was given up,
I don't remember, but you follow this little boy in
his mindset, and he ends up getting handed off to.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
A very very strict.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Calvinist of some denomination and his wife, old fashioned family,
and the man and woman are much older, and they
have no tolerance for children.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And this kid. And in the midst of this all,
this child is left to his own thoughts.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And he creates this sort of Rube Goldberg type apparatus
in his mind where he decides that he's going to
think about how he feels about things, and then issues
present themselves, he'll simply put it into the machine and
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it'll spit out the answer. And it's how I have
tried to suggest over the years, we step back from
the games Karl Rove will have you playing and twisting
yourself into a pretzel over issues, and instead ask yourself
how you really feel about issues that transcend what's in
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the news today. For instance, who should direct the course
of a person's life, that person or the collective. Now,
most people at this point will say, well, that person,
that's liberty, Michael, the natural right of self determination. I agree,
(03:50):
all right, that person wants to go live up in
the mountains, away from the community that's down in the
valley where we've all grat gravitated because there's density there
for commerce, for marriage, for worship, for taxing, for common defense.
Do you still allow him to go live up in
the mountain away from us, all not harming us, leaving
(04:14):
the community. Well, I suppose, but who's going to do
his portion? Okay, you've just said that he owes a
duty to the whole, to the collective, to do what,
to defend, to engage in commerce, to marry somebody, to
dig the ditches, to pay the taxes. All right, So
(04:36):
we started with the overarching theme of self determination. But
we've already broken down. When a guy doesn't want to
live with us, we've said, we don't like to admit it,
we control you. You have to live amongst us because
we need you to carry on some tasks that we
need for the community. So you don't have total self control.
(04:57):
Your natural rights given by God, not government. That's us
where the collective, they do not transcend or exceed our desire.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
For you to carry your part.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
That breakdown, right there, can account for some very simple issues.
When I say you shouldn't be required to wear a
helmet on a motorcycle when the only person you harm
should you have an accident is yourself. I get a
lot of people, most of them women. It's a natural
women are more protective, caretaker, less risk taking. And women
(05:33):
will say, but you'll get hurt. Yes, that is your
natural right given by God to make a decision for
yourself as to whether or not you get whether you
exacerbate the damage of a motorcycle accident should you have one.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It is you are not his mother. You do not
get to make rules for him. He does.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We've made the information available. You're more likely to be
harmed or cared on a motorcycle without a helmet, so
now you don't need to make laws to require him
to wear a helmet. And then we enter section two. Now,
this is the least the least principled argument that can
be made, and this is when you realized. You realize
(06:18):
that most people don't stand on principle. They don't know
where they stand. They don't have principles that guide them
that are unbreakable. They just kind of look around and
pick and choose what their opinion is on things, and
many of those opinions are indefensible. The second argument I
will get, this is what I'm getting to, is, well, yeah,
(06:40):
he can choose whether to get an accident or not,
but if he gets his head banged up and he
doesn't have insurance, then he's going to end up in
the hospital and I'm gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Okay, how about this.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
How about we pass a law to make you happy
that says you don't have to wear a helmet. You
have the natural right given by God to determine your
own course of your own life, not harming anyone else.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Unless you don't have insurance.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
If you don't have insurance, then we're gonna require you
to wear a helmet.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Is that what we'll do? Well, that's too hard for
the cops to figure out.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Who Oh, okay, so we'll just make the law real
simple so the cops aren't bothered.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Got it all right? Well, how about this?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
How about the fact that the moment you started covering
health care for people who do not plan ahead and
pay for it themselves, you put yourself into a situation
where you now start ruling the lives of other people
because God forbid, they take more than their piece of
the pie. Now you've got a guy who's going to
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end up need to use the health care system. And
all I care about is I'm paying for the healthcare
system because I allowed Obama to run my healthcare system.
And so if you're going to give free health care
to a guy that busts his head up, I don't
want him bust in his head up. Well, for that matter,
shouldn't we pass on all sorts of laws. Do you
know how many kids end up in the emergency room
(08:03):
from playing youth sports. We've got to do away with
that to protect our investment and motorcycles, let's just outlaw
motorcycles generally, because you end up having accidents and four
wheelers and anything else that might be considered dangerous because
we want to save money, and that's how you end
up with stupid positions without principle. I think we're due
(08:34):
for and I truly believe, Lona and I've been doing
our own I truly believes over the last couple of days.
We'll open the phone lines now, probably not get to
it till the next segment, but if you want to
be on be ready.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'll ask what do you truly believe?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And you say I truly believe, and then you say
it in a few seconds.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
This is not a chance for a.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Diatribe of multi list item your magnus opus or fifteen
reasons why just to I truly believe on a serious
or not item.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Seven one three, nine, nine, nine, one thousand.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
A new poll has gone into the field that means
the calls are being made right now. Gauging Wesley Hunt's
entry into the Senate race. It asks questions like what
would happen if President Trump were to endorse Wesley Hunt.
(09:31):
It also tests negative messaging against John Cornyan.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So here's part of the poll.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Now you're going to read some brief statements that you
might hear during the campaign for US Senate.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
For each statement, please.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Indicate whether this information would make you more likely to
vote against or for that candidate, or if it makes
no difference either way in.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
How you might vote. One of the questions.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
After nearly two decades in the Senate and a grab
for party leadership, Cornan has morphed into the ultimate Washington elite,
out of touch with the conservative base he is supposed
to represent. There's a lot of reasons for a pole
(10:21):
like this, and it could be coming from a number
of different places. It could be coming from a draft
Wesley Hunt movement, and there is a group of people
who would like to get Wesley Hunt into the race.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
These are people who don't like.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Cornan but don't like Paxton, or don't think Paxton can
win next November, or yeah, those are the two big ones.
And then there are just folks that really like Wesley Hunt.
That messaging, right there is not messaging that comes from
Cornyn's camp, because that almost sounds like what's called a
(10:54):
push pole. A push pole is where under the guise
of a pole you're calling and spreading rumors. They would
go like this, and this is not true. So if
you found out that John Cornyn was gay and had
murdered three of his neighbors and got the cops to
cover it up, would you still vote for him? And
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the ends of course is no. It'd be interesting to
know who would still say yes. But so what that
a poll like that is intended to do is put
that into the mind of people who then go repeat it. Hey,
did you know that Cornan's gay and murdered three of
his neighbors. Well, no, it's not. Well I don't know
it's true or not, but I don't think he murdered
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three of his neighbors. But the point is planting that
seed in the mind of people. And then you take
the poll results and say, seventy eight or in this case,
ninety three percent of Republican primary voters called three rs
you voted three times in the Republican primary.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You're going to vote this time.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Ninety three percent of repeat Republican voters say they will
not vote for Cornan. Well, well, if you just get
that result, you might go, oh, corn is even more
unpopular than I've thought because he's unpopular. He's not that unpopular,
so that borders on a push poll. But in any case,
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this is what consultants do. This is why when you
see a pole that says, you know, fifty eight percent
of people believe this, you have to understand that unless
you drill down and.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Look at the actual question that was asked.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Many poles are conducted, you basically purchase a percentage.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Hey, I need a poll. I want it to be believable.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I don't want to say ninety nine percent of people
hate John Cornyn.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I wanted to say only twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Percent would vote for him, or whatever that number may be,
and you can purchase a pole that would come out
with that.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The funny thing about this example is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That Corning's crew is a crew who does that against THEIRS,
as opposed to it happening to him. You're testing that
messages that that message there, which means either Cornyan is
in the field, trying to figure out, I know this
is what they're going to say about me. Let me
see how people respond. Maybe, but his negatives are so
(13:18):
high you don't need to pump them anymore. This could
be a pro Wesley Hunt poll that is saying, hey,
if I go after Cornan on this basis, can I
can I land some strikes here with these are the
things we expect to run against Cornan?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And the third one could be Paxton.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It could be Paxton seeing, hey can I get Can
I defeat Cornyan with? Which message should I push? He's
been in DC too long, He's no longer in touch here.
He made a graph for the leadership and lost. He
works against Donald Trump. He's never done anything on a
legal immigration other than to cut our efforts. So what
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you're doing before you go spending you know, ten million
dollars a pop on TV and radio, you're testing which
message makes the biggest difference. Now that's pretty obvious and
you can figure that out for yourself. The question here
is does this come from Hunts people trying to figure
out if he has enough people trying to figure out
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whether to push him into the race or not, Because
he's got to support of a lot of people, or
does it come from Paxton who knows he's running against
Cornan and wants to see what the entry of Wesley
Hunt into the race potentially would would would affect that
if he were to see that only one percent of
the people would vote for Hunt. If Hunt got in,
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then you leave Hunt alone. You just focus on Cornan,
and now you know where to focus on Cornan. If
it says, hey, between Paxton and Cornyn, seventy four percent
would go for Paxton and you know twenty six percent
for Cornyn. However, if Hunt gets in the race, then
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it's tied. Now you turn the artillery and you start
hitting Hunt, because you can't hit everybody at once, and
if you're going to spend a bunch of money on
radio and TV hitting primary voters, you want the right
message and you want to be attacking the right candidate.
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If Hunt gets in the race, I have to think
that Wesley's not going to get in the race unless
he's pretty sure that Corn's getting out, or that the
intree of Hunt into the race would push Cornin out,
because now it's a referendum on Cornin and Paxton wins
(15:49):
that easily. If Hunt gets in the race. Then the
argument becomes it's a referendum on Paxton, and Hunt has
to win that repe for Endom. The anti Cornyan vote
has always been Paxton's lane. If Paxton doesn't have that
lane to himself, Hunt has to get in and attack
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Cornyn and attack Paxton. It becomes very interesting, all right.
It's not truly believe coming up seven one, three, nine, nine, nine, one.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Thousand, but Michael Berry's show to your Life, you know this.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's I truly believe Howard Stern's contract has not been
renewed with Serious XM after twenty years. Several folks asking
for my opinion on that. If we have time, I
will share it before the.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Show is over. Go Broke is only part of the equation,
but it is a big part. To be clear. He
went very weird, very very weird.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Insane amounts of money can make a man crazy, they
really can.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Michael Barry Show presents are truly.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
All right, get right to it, be quick, George, you're
on the Michael Berry Show.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
What do you truly believe?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I truly believe that the Democrats of the deep State
killed the late Great Handey Scalia back in twenty sixteen,
it was probably interesting. We don't get calls from Cebe
radios very often. I was invited to the ranch where
Scalia died. Uh the individual who was hosting Anton and
(17:48):
Scalia and that fella, I mean, obviously he bears no.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Sure he felt horrible about the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I've often wondered, though, I've often wondered who did have
something to do with that, or whether Anton's kally are
the greatest Supreme Court justice of all time? If he
died naturally, I don't know. I do have questions. Caleb,
you're up, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I could believe everyone that's able and capable of doing
it should live out their dream. Chase chase your dream,
because not everybody gets too.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Thank you, sir, you bet.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I read something this morning. It's one of these feel
good quotes that women pass around, but I thought it
was good, simple wisdom, and it said, fall in love
with your life. Wake up early, buy your favorite coffee,
go for walks, eat good food, wear what makes you
feel confident, and listen to your favorite music. Purposefully create
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these small moments that make you fall in love with
your life. I know it sounded like such a woman
thing that they would send around today, I'm going to
be happy or I'm in love with us, sir, you
know those sorts of stupid things. But it's true, you
know it does bum me out. I'm kind of a
control free so when people are overly anxious or overly
(19:06):
worried or overly sour, I will say, Hey, I want
to turn that frown upside down. Won't we find some
happiness in that. Let's think of something you really enjoy doing.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And let's do that.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Let's have some ice cream, Let's watch the Astros, Let's
listen to whatever your favorite band is. Let's put ourselves
into a good mood and choose to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No, can't do it. Can't No, can't do it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And it does strike me that many people choose sadness, melancholy, resentment, anger,
when occasionally there's nothing wrong with actually enjoying the moment
you have because there aren't many of them. Greg, You're
only Michael Berry show go ahead, Greg.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Hey, Michael, thanks for taking my call. Hey, speaking of bands,
I truly believe one of my favorite bands, one of
the best bands in drummer is Easy Top and Frank Beard.
I recently seen you were backstayed with Frank Beard at
Red Rocks. I was just curious, one, are your takeaways
from that?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Do you know Frank?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I do not?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Okay, Well, I was told, oh sorry.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I was told that Frank and his sons, Nico and
Rory were fans of the show, and they'd offered for
us to get together. They live out in Richmond, and
we have a mutual friend named Cody Johnson, and he's
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the one that told me this. And so I love
the idea of getting together with people, but my schedule
it's sort of like if you're the quarterback for the
Texans and you're in the middle of two days, you'd
like to go see Elvis or Don Henley or whoever's
being offered for you to meet, But when are you
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going to do it? Because you just don't have a
spare moment. And that's just the way it is. That's
the way I've ordered my life. So when I do
something whimsical, it's because at that moment I have enough
energy that I can blow off some steam and go
do it. But I don't like to plan things because
sometimes I'm just exhausted and I end up in situations
where I don't want to be. And this is a
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marathon now, not a sprint for me. And as I've
gotten older, I've had to understand that five days a week,
five hours a day is a long schedule, and so
I resist the urge to go and do things. Well,
I messed around and didn't get it done. Find out
they're going to be in Red Rocks. I'm offered to
get to come and hang out backstage. And I've never
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never been to Red Rocks, never seen it's easy top.
How could you not do that? So we went and
it was a hell of a time. Frank was the
most gracious, kind guy. It was kind of weird. I'm
not going to use words surreal because people use that
word because it's the only word we can think of
in that moment. But I'm walked into his green room
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and you know, Red Rocks is in the side of
a mountain. I'm walked into his green room and I
walk in there and his son Rory, walks me in
and then turns and kind of walks away. And so
I'm standing in front of Frank and he says, hey, Michael,
like we're old friends, and he says, sit down, and
so I sit down and we have a good chat.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And then he pulls out these shoes.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
He's black, like weird, kind of soft felt shoes. And
I said, what are those? And he says, my drumming shoes.
Apparently drummers wear special shoes. I hadn't thought about this,
and so I said would it be weird if I
picked them up? And he said not at all. So
I picked it up and the thing is falling apart.
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It's a very light cloth. It's like a house shoe
you might wear. It's made by Simpson. I posted a
picture of him to Facebook and this shoe is so
ripped and shredded. I said, Frank, how old is this?
Then he said forty five years got him an eighty.
Oh my goodness. So we just sat and talked and
and the best time we got to stand his sons
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or his or the texts for the guitar and drum
and all that, the texts for the band, and so
how cool is that there's four buses that they travel on.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Billy has a bus.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Elwood, who was Dusty's guitar tech who replaced Duck Dusty
within a week of Dusty dying, which crazy Pablo, Pablo
and Elwood ride in one bus Pablo is the tour manager.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
He's from Costa Rica. And then the crew.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
They only have a crew of six people for a
band that big. They have three members of the band
and six crew. They travel with fewer than ten people.
That's unheard of if you've ever seen big shows, Aerosmith,
the Stones, all that, because it's a big sound, a
lot of equipment. And then the final bus to fourth
bus is Frank and his two sons, and so here
he is seventy five years old getting to travel around
the country with his two sons. It's a pretty neat deal.
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One of the sons, Nico, is a marine. They both
went into the Marines. Rory was released because in between
the time that he signed up and he got there,
he got lasick. And I've heard this story before and
they did not want it's a different physical, so you
have to go through the whole thing. They sent him
on his way and he went on tour with his
dad and his brother joined him, and there they were.
I thought he was gracious, I thought he was cool.
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I thought he was wonderful. He opened up about his
career and drumming and all that, and then the next
morning at our hotel, they summoned Cody Johnson, who's our buddy,
and they asked Cody to come to their hotel and
he came back with my signed drumsticks and.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The drum what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Drum Yeah, drumhead that he had signed beat to hell,
by the way, and the drum sticks would beat to hell.
So yeah, I'm mildly in love with Frank Beard. And
I've always loved Zazy Top.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I thought he was awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And his sons, Nico and Rory too, They were just
awesome people.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
The whole Zeezy Top experience is amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Because you know, here's the drummer wearing shoes that he
bought forty five years ago. The microphone that Billy Gibbons
uses is rusted. So Rory Beard, Frank's son, unhooks it.
It's the same mic we use, and he unhooks it
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and he hands it to me and I said, wow,
how does he get this rusted patina?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And he said, well, he brought it home.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
He threw it out in the yard and a month
later he went out picked.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It up, said that'll do.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
We plugged it in, we tested it, we had another
in case it didn't work, and that's what we use.
What about the other one did the same And the
mike stand Billy's is just a touch Taller noted that
two inches tall. The mic stand is a foe rust
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done down the side of him with grooves cut out
in a light inside of it. But if you saw
this microphone at a garage cell, nobody told you that's
Billy Gibbons microphone right there that he just played last night.
Today we put it in the garage cell. You'd say, no,
that's an old, busted up, rusted microphone. I don't want
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that microphone. But it was his cookie. Haven's the grandmother
of the young man who's one of the stars for
the Nadville Little League. They're playing in juniors today. That's
the year after the twelve year old little League that
we all know, says our boys are playing today at
one pm, Texas time in the World Series, which look well.
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I have asked her to tell me if that game
is going to be broadcast, and if it is.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I will find out and share with you the details.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
I told you that Lamar little League, the voice from Richmond,
will be playing in the league World Series.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I think that's a week from today.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Miss Gary Mcklelhannon says, I got a ticket for not
wearing a seat belt, so I called Percy Foreman to
take my case. He said, little lady, I don't take
cases like that, but when you shoot someone, call me. Obviously,
that was a long time ago, so I went to
court pro see that means defending yourself, and the case
was tossed out because the policeman who gave me the
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ticket was not there. It's an I truly believe, and
Lisa is our first call. Lisa, sweetheart, what do you
truly believe?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I truly believe that there are deep state evil people
in every government agency and their job.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Is just to chick us off.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
You're right about the first, but there's no profit to
ticking you off. You being ticked off is a byproduct
of the real reason they do it, which is to
assert control and monetize the gains. People get very very
rich off of the actions they take which just happen
to tick you off. They do a lot of things
you don't know about that would tick you off, but
(28:22):
they don't bother to tell you even though that would
tick you off. Ticking you off is not in and
of itself a profitable endeavor worth their time. It's a
necessary byproduct that they will fade the heat on.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Eric.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I truely believe being a dog owner is better than
having a cat.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I never got the whole cat thing.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I've kind of softened on cats as I've gotten older,
because when you have a place out in the country,
cats can be very useful with regard to snakes and
rats and things. And they're very very useful. You know,
you get a good barn cat and they will keep
that barn relatively free of the stuff you don't want
out there, and that is very very useful. Oh, Gary
(29:13):
McFarland Wright Simpson makes shoes for race car drivers. That's
what those shoes look like. That's it, the race car driver.
I couldn't remember what the shoes were for.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, it was race car drivers.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Did we go to Eric?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Okay, Well, then I'll tell my Howard Stern answer. Several
people asked my thoughts on Howard Stern. Well, first, let's
talk about the Howard Stern economic model. When Stern came out,
he was what used to be called a shock jock,
pure and simple, he embraced it.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Everybody knew it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And that was a guy who played a lot of
music on rock stations in the New York metropolitan area,
which he didn't stay there, but that's where that was
the biggest audience that he was going to find, and
that's where he naturally Billy and and in New York.
And he was pretty good at it. He is by result.
(30:08):
He's a very good interviewer. There's no doubting that he's
one of the best interviewers of all time of famous people.
And the reason is he developed a brand, and the
brand was even if you're a person who does not
reveal their personal secrets, if you go on Stern, you
understand you.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Do that there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
So he got a lot of people to talk on
his show about things that they wouldn't normally. In some ways,
it was similar to Rogan in that way because it
was a very long form interview and it was celebrity driven,
interview driven, and.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
He broke He made the news a lot. Now.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Stern's big break came when he was being pushed off
of terrestrial radio. That's radio where you're most of you
unless you're on the podcast or listening to us. Now
and there were there was XIM, and there was serious
and they needed a talk show long format for truckers.
And the deal they cut with him was based on subscriptions,
(31:17):
So you can't fault he didn't get overpaid. I've heard
people say he got overpaid because he made hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
He did not.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
He signed a deal that was a commission based deal.
He got to eat part of what he killed, the
numbers he generated for people who paid for XIM and
then who paid separately for his subscription. He kept a
percentage of that. You can't fault him for that. You
can't say he didn't earn that. It wasn't a Kirk Cousins.
(31:44):
You know why you paying a guy one hundred and
eighty million dollars he's not even starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
It was real.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
But in time, I think that a lot of Stearn's
audience grew up. And I'm not saying he was childish
or sophomore. I think his style didn't last, and I
think that a lot of people stopped listening. And then
he fell in love with being a celebrity and doing
things other than the show, and then he went crazy.
(32:11):
He went absolutely nuts during COVID. He didn't come out.
He insulted everyone else, and I think he drove his
audience away. And the numbers are not there anymore, and
the numbers for a subscription are not there anymore. An
XM satellite doesn't have extra cash.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
To throw serious XM.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
They had to consolidate the two because there wasn't a
market enough for both of them. That last time I
saw the percentage of revenues of revenues spent on marketing
that satellite radio picked up, it was less than five.
At one point it was up to seven. And clear
Channel of the company we work for, iHeart now owns
(32:47):
a percentage of it. That business model cannot afford his
dollars anymore, So good riddings. He's an ass. He's a
complete and utter ass. Aside from everything else,
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