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February 24, 2025 8 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I'm a big one for self defense and the
responsibility we have as a head of household to defend
our family, but the responsibility every person has to defend
ourselves to the extent that we possibly can. I am
a big believer in firearms because a little old lady
can pick up a pistol and blast a thug coming
through the door to harm her when she couldn't take

(00:22):
him out at the knees or sucker punch him. It
has an effect of evening the playing field for the infirm,
and the elderly and the weak. It can give a little,
tiny woman a fair fight against a bad guy when
maybe she wouldn't she doesn't have the training, or ability
or strength to take care of herself otherwise. That being said,

(00:45):
a firearm is a real powerful tool of self defense.
And sometimes you don't need such a powerful tool. Sometimes
you need a form of self defense that stops the
threat but is not necessarily always lethal. And that's why

(01:07):
it's called BURNA and I owned them long before they
became partners with us. Burna b y r NA dot
com forward slash Michael my first name m I C
h A E L. I bought at one point eight
of them to put all around my house. Everywhere I
have pistols, I put Burner guns, and then I bought
more for everybody in my life to have one so

(01:30):
that they could defend themselves in a situation where you
may not you may not need to kill somebody. You
may just need to get the threat to stop, because
that's the end of the day. You don't want to
kill somebody. People talk lightly about killing somebody, but I'm
going to tell you I've known a lot of people
who've had to defend themselves by killing someone. You never
forget that you don't want to have to do it.

(01:51):
You just want to stop the threat. And the beauty
of this is it's legal in all fifty states. You
don't have to have a background check any you can
I oft thing, have it delivered to you. You don't
have to go through all the government forums or databases.
And some people can't buy a gun because they had
a problem earlier in life. So I was a big
fan of the burners, and all of a sudden, I

(02:13):
get to know the folks at the company and they say, hey,
there's this, there's this, Uh, well he was constable at
the time. There's a sheriff down in Galveston County, and
he was bragging on you and the fact that you
love these guns and you've talked about him, and he's
training all his law enforcement officers to use them, of
course in addition to their firearms. And Jimmy, I haven't
asked you how you got connected with the Burner gun itself,

(02:36):
not the company, but the Burner launcher itself.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I got I got familiar with it because there
were some guys that worked for the Galveston Police Department
that were actually trainers, and I actually went through the
training class with them, and from the time I stepped
in that classroom and saw what it was all about,
I was hooked at you know, prit of that I
used to carry the traditional taser. But again, and I'm

(03:01):
not knocking chaser. They've got practical applications, but there's a
lot of hit and miss with those with this burner.
I have not had one one failed attemptle with my burner.
It is so effective on people and and for that matter, Mike,
it's effective on animals. Sometimes you go to scenes and
you get animals, they get loose and they come attached
towards you. You can utilize it on an animal, and

(03:24):
it'll get them away from you without having to end
up killing the animal.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Which again, if you can avoid ending a life. I
see these cases of somebody that's schizophrenic or bipolar and
they're having an episode, and so they're beaten up, you know,
they're they're thirty five years old, they're beaten up their
their mom or their grandmother that they live with. She
calls the cop because he's beaten her up and his
eyes are zonked out and he's in the middle of

(03:50):
a mental health episode, and when the officers arrive, it
triggers him and he goes outside and it's basically death
by cop, and the cops end up, you know, all
these problems as a result of it. And if there
was just a way to get him subdued till we
could get him some help. And it strikes me that
that's one of the perfect examples of where you'd rather

(04:10):
not have.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
To kill somebody, absolutely, and that's exactly why you had
that means of non lethal force on your belt when
you go deal with mentally you know, mentally challenged people.
All right, let's go back to our veterans, Mike's you know,
they have some issues as well if you end up
having to deal with them. The last thing a policeman
wants to do is have to use deadly force on somebody.
So if we have that alternate means, which is the burner,

(04:33):
you know, by all means, utilize it, sub do the suspect,
get them taken into custody, and get them the treatment
they need well.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
And one of the things I like is law enforcement
using it is a little different than the individual because
I think individuals, oddly enough, have more of a presumption
of self defense than law enforcement today. And I think
I credit Black Lives Matter and Antifa and the left
with making law enforcement out to be a bunch of,

(05:02):
you know, gun slingers that are out to shoot people.
When my brother was an officer, I know you very
well know lots of officers well, and that's not what
you want to do. You want to go home safe
and you want everybody else to go home safe, and
having another tool to do that I am. I'm an evangelizer.
My friends laugh because they'll ask me questions about it.
Let's go on. That's going Burner by r NA dot

(05:23):
Com forward slash Michael right now, let's get it right now, dude,
you got to lay off. I'm a big believer in this.
I think it could. It could not only change lives,
it could save lives.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
It absolutely saves lives. I mean, on a daily basis,
you hear reports of officers being able to use the
burners to some do somebody, which you know, if you
didn't have that burner on your belt, you may not
have had a choice but to go straight to deadly force.
So thankfully there are burners out there. I'm a I'm
a big believer. I always have been. In fact, I
just for the Sheriff's office. I just ordered a hundred

(05:54):
of them the other day. Uh, we're hoping to get
those in for our corrections officer as well as our
patrol deputy and even some of our SLOs. So I'm
a firm believer in them. Give you a prime example, Mike.
You know we got Marty Graul coming up. If you
were to have say a big ride out on the street,
maybe down on the strand or something, the officers don't
have to actually get into the crowd to engage them
and possibly get their selves injured. You just, you know,

(06:16):
put a couple of rounds of pepper balls or burner
rounds into the crowd and you disberse that crowd. So
I mean again, there's multiple uses for the burner where
the officers don't have to engage hand on hand, and
you know, they don't have to use deadly force.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Amen. Galveston County Sheriff now no longer constable. He's been
upgraded by the public, who overwhelmingly voted him in Jalveston
County Sheriff Jimmy full and thank you, brother.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I appreciate you, and thank you, brother Mike. I really
appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Let me say, growing up with law enforcement officers and
growing up with people who grew up in the country,
and myself growing up in the country where you don't
have time for law enforcement to respond, this is this
is a mission for me. It's a ministry for me
to take measures to protect yourself. I wish, I wish

(07:08):
we lived in Japan where the likelihood that you're going
to be accosted or attacked was insanely low, But we don't.
And it's real. There's thugs, there's illegals, there's bad people
who will do bad things, and you've got to think
ahead about it. You've got to think ahead about how
you're going to defend yourself in the various points of

(07:31):
your life. You know, I mentioned earlier the license to
carry in Texas. Now anybody can carry. It's open carry,
not a felon or whatever. But you don't need a
license to have a gun with you to defend yourself.
And I got to tell you, I have sold a
number of people I know, especially women, on these Burner launchers,

(07:55):
because it's an opportunity to defend yourself without having to
do what perhaps you don't want to do. I'm a
big believer in martial arts. I'm a big believer in
situational awareness. You know, don't be texting as you're walking.
You know, you folks, You folks are our family. We'd
like to keep you around a long time. And if
you're interested in more on Burna, send me an email

(08:18):
or just go to Berna b y r na dot com.
Forward slash Michael my first name in my c H
A E. L. Yes, I am an evangelizer. I'm unashamed
of that. I believe in it a lot. I believed
in it so much I've bought a bunch of them
before they ever reached out to me, and said, hey,
would would you like to endorse us on the air. Absolutely,
I'm already doing it.
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