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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Michael Barry Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You know him as the MotorCity mad Man. I know
him as Uncle Ted, one of our favorite guests of
all time. Heck, one of our favorite people of all time.
Leave the music, the hunting, the cooking, the politics, just
an inspiration in life. Ted Nugent, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You know, Mike. I feel welcome and from a favorite
people to another favorite people. I'm talking to you from
a beautiful monsoon in Waco, Texas. So happy twenty twenty
five to you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah we got we needed it, though, didn't we.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh. I love the rain. I love Mother Nature even
when she gives me the middle finger. I love storms
until the damage begins. But yeah, I've got a beautiful
ranch here in Texas and the vegetation the range is
lush and productive. The wildlife are celebrating. They're growing many
new backstraps for the fall harvest. So I'm a happy,
happy rock and roller.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, it's always a blast to have you on because
you bring such a message of hope, inspiration, dedication, commitment, motivation.
I think happiness is a choice that we make, and
more than happen is contentment, fulfillment, purpose and by golly,
you found yours brother.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well and Michael back at shall I mean, I'm addicted
to truth logic and common sense. Not my truth logic
and common sense, but the evidence drench truth logic and
common sense that you represent so eloquently, so beautifully and
with a crowbar when necessary. But I listened to Michael
Berry Radio and you represent the heartbeat, the spirit, the attitude,
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the energy, the hope, the dreams. I mean, I know
this gets kind of mushy right now.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We are coming out of.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Enough about you, more about me.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We are coming well. We're coming out of a very
heartbreaking toilet flush by the Deep State Uncle Sam, Joe
Biden gang, and there is unbelievable hope right now. I'll
be seventy seven, and I've never been more hopeful. I've
never been more happy with the direction of our country.
And plus I just had lunch with a bunch of
hard work in fellow Texas here and the spirit and
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the work, ethic, godfamily country is now the battle cry
that is ubiquitous across the land. And my music represents that.
You and I talking about it represents that. So once again,
thank you for having me on Let's do.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Something we don't do enough of them. We'll get back
to politics and culture and life and cooking and hunting.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let's talk about your music.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
The fiftieth anniversary of Stranglehold. It's hard to believe. I
don't know if it's hard for you to believe. It's
hard to believe fifty years and I know you've got
some very exciting things for fans planned out for that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Let's discuss that.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, am I. We've talked about this before, that my
music has power and authority because of the incredible musicians
that have been at my side for the last sixty
five years. And we recorded Stranglehold in nineteen seventy five
with Rob Grange and Cliff Davis and Derek Saint Holmes,
my producers, Tom Wormon and engineer Tony Reality. Everybody just
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immersed themselves into the spirit, the sound, the drum tones,
the guitar tones, the bass tones, the lyric content, the
piss and the vinegar, the energy of that song. And
people have embraced the song Stranglehold fifty years and onward.
Especially might the Navy seals that call me, the Army Rangers,
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the Green Beret Delta Force that used that song during
their training end, when they're putting their life on the line.
And I can't imagine a testimonial that gives a guy
more confidence and happiness than a piece of music represents
that to those superhuman beings. So yeah, fifty years of straggling.
By the way, I played it for a buddy of
mine and my man Cave Cuckoo's Nest arsenal of Democracy
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this morning, and the hairs on my arm stood up
fully erect because I still love the spirit of that song.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, it is timeless, It is truly timeless, and I
don't know that we've ever done this. Let's talk about
where that song came from, because I believe that art
floats in the ether and you just grab hold of
it for a moment.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But what was going on with you?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
How did you first hear it? Were you noodling on
the guitar or did you hear it completely?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, I'm always playing. I played my guitar and shoot
my bow and trained with my firearms literally, Michael, every day.
It's just it's stuff that I have a passion about.
They all play a pragmatic and inspirational purpose in my life.
But in my youth, I was always playing Chuck Berry
and Bo Diddley and Little Richard and Motown funk Brothers,
and the right hand on my guitar developed a percussiveness,
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a rhythmical kind of a nugent MotorCity version of Bo
Diddley's chuck a chuck A chucka. And just one day
I was tuning my guitar and that happened. That move happened,
and there was really nothing I could do about it.
It had a heartbeat of its own, and then the
lyrics just flowed. The lyrics are defiance against the music
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industry that turned me down for all those years, because
long guitar solos don't make it anymore. We need some
pop music and disco's coming in. And I said, yeah,
well listen to this song, kids. So the song is
one of defiance against an industry that was losing its
touch with the original black influences of soul music and
rhythm and blues inspired rock and roll. So like this morning, Michael,
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this morning, I was playing a Gibson Birdland through a
Fender twin app and I'm telling you all these new
variations kind of a bastardized honky tonk meets boogie woogie,
and there's always new topography to explore on the guitar neck.
And because I have such a passion and a dedication
to trying to be Chuck Berry when I grow up,
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that all these new lick patterns happen. It happens all
the time.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know, you have talked a lot over the years
in our conversations about Chuck Berry, and I think a
lot of young folks to say, we'll have no idea how
big Chuck Berry was and also how influential Chuck Berry was.
Why is that for you?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, I think I've summarized it numerous times in interviews,
and the facts remain that there's not a piece of music.
Now that this is a bold, expansive statement, which I'm
pretty good at, but there isn't a piece of music,
Michael Berry, that you really get a kick out of
and want to turn up when it comes on the
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radio and makes your truck go faster that doesn't have
an essence of what Chuck Berry created cadence wise, rhythmically, upbeat,
spirit wise, cocky, irreverent fun. There is not a powerful
piece of music in anyone's life, and I'd be glad
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to debate this for anybody that doesn't have a direct
inspiration from Chuck Berry's catalog. I don't care if it's country,
I don't care if it's blues. I don't care if
it's rock and roll. Even a lot of pop music
they've got that Chuck Berry cadence that when you listen
to Johnny be Good or Carol or roll Over Beethoven
or Sweet Sixteen, you listen to those original Chuck Berry songs,
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and it's a parent that all moving, authoritative music comes
from that genius. And Michael I played bass guitar with
Chuck Berry, which is why I am like I am today.
I promise you.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, you know your life experiences. Of course they didn't
happen by chance. You made them happen. You made your experience.
Oh I'm up against s Frank hold on this a moment.
Uncle Ted Ted Nugent is our guest. You can find
out more at Ted Nugent dot com, Ted Nugent dot com.
If you're a Nuge fan, he's got some exciting stuff
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coming up at nuge vault dot com nuge vault dot com.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
We'll talk about us.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Kids from Duck King of Ding and this other guy,
Michael Barry.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
This is a kind of guy you like to smacking ass.
Uncle Ted.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Ted Nugent, the MotorCity Madman is our guest and normally
over the years and it's been many that he comes
on the show. We talk about politics, we talk about culture,
We talk about who he's pissed off lately, who he he,
what changes he wants or we talk about hunting and
food and family and nature and faith and these important things.
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But today is a treat for me because I figure
he's tired of talking about music all the time and
there's much more to him than that. But today we're
getting to talk about the music, and that's a treat
because I don't normally get to Uncle Ted. You have
something exciting going on at the nuge Vault, which is
nugevault dot com.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Talk about that.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Please well again, Michael, thanks letting me share my passions
and my love of music and the American dream with you.
I'm just such a lucky guy with all these incredibles.
Dedicated musicians at my side. In twenty twenty five, with
John Coots on drums and Jason Hartless and Johnny Big
on bass were playing Kenny Storr in Brenham, Texas, next weekend.
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And we've been doing these speakes. He's around the state,
and I'm telling you, talking about defying gravity. I am
having more guitar music fun in twenty twenty five doing
these gigs around my home state of Texas than I
ever have. In fact, I will be doing my seven
thousandth concert. And what happened during rehearsals in the barn
in Michigan is my drummer Jason Hartless saw all these
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vats and all these boxes piled sky high around my
trucks and my deer blinds, and he said, what's all
that stuff? And I go, oh, those are old tapes
of rehearsals and jam sessions and recording sessions. He started digging, Michael.
He has unearthed the jam sessions and the songwriting sessions,
and the outtakes and the demos and the unfinished tapes
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of all the recordings, thousands of concerts, and it's just
fascinating history of not just Ted Nugent rock and roll,
but the origins of rock and roll, from the founding
fathers that Chuck Berry's and the Motown Funk Brothers and
now at nudge Vault. It's fascinating. It's a place called
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nuge vault dot com. We've got these subscribers that are
just doing double backflips because of the outtakes and the
demos and the jam sessions and a lot of my
very fun interviews like I do with Michael Berry. But
all of this is available at nuge vault dot com
and people are just getting having a riot with it,
and so am I, because it's really rekindling a lot
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of the memories of just unbelievable moments where these songs happened,
and these jam sessions created these new songs, and these
amazing musicians would collaborate with ideas. So it's nuge vault
dot com and we'll be exposing a lot of that
on a bunch of gigs here in Texas and then
up in Michigan in August.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You know, and I know that special for you. You're
a Texan now through and through, but I know Michigan
holds a special place in your heart. I had a
Sunday school teacher say to me twenty five years ago,
if you want to know who you said to all
of us in the class, we want know who you're
going to be five years from now. Look at your
closest friends, because they're going to pick you up or
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they're going to drop you down. They're going to take
you with them where they're going. That's where you're headed.
And it's interesting. I talk to a lot of musicians.
I'm passionate about music. I can't make music, but somebody
has to consume it, right, And I'm really passionate about
how the art is made and what it means to
people and these sorts of things. And you talk about collaboration.
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Every time you and I talk and I ask you
a question about Ted Nugent and what Ted Nugent has done,
you always go to a Chuck Berry comes up a lot.
You always go to the influences and the collaboration. And
I think that's a takeaway whatever you're in, if you're
a financial advisor, a plant worker, the people you surround
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yourself with and bounce off of are going to make
you better or worse. And I hear that from you
every time I talk to you. How playing with other
people and their influences and those collaborations is a thrill
for you and has made you who you are.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And I think that's important.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I don't think there's anything more important. My dad used
to say as I was growing up, tell me who
you hang with, and I'll tell you who you are. Now.
I dismiss that in my stupidity of youth, but it
turned out to be true. And I have an inner circle,
quite an expansive inner circle, Michael, which, by the way,
you're a member of a good people of the spirit,
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good will and decency, work, ethic, God, family, country. Still
conduct our lives based on the Constitution, the build rights
and decoration of independence and commandments, the Golden Rule, law
and order, good over evil, self defense, freedom of speech, etc. Etc.
And those are the people that I accumulated in my family,
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my friends, my band, my crew, my management, my hunting buddies.
I have a hunting operation called Sunrise Safaris, and Michael,
I share campfires with hundreds and hundreds of families every year.
And that's why I salute you, because when you talk,
you talk just like those families around the campfire that
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put their heart and soul into being the best that
you can be. And when you put your heart and
soul into being the best that you can be as
a musician, great music happens so I've always surrounded myself
with the best rhythm section, the best singers, the best creators,
and you hear that in the music. The performance that
these guys put into my compositions is every artist's dream
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because there's a passion. And by the way, we keep
mentioning Chuck Berry. Everybody in all of my bands and
all of my crew, everybody references Chuck Berry. So that cadence,
that spirit, that energy, that uppiness, that defiance. There's a
lot of defiance in that music, and that's what inspires us.
And even though we're old men now, Michael, when we
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get in the barn and start jamming, it's like a
bunch of kids. It's like a bunch of kids that
want to play Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley and play
motown hits. In fact, we do. That's how all of
our rehearsals start with those classic songs. And once you
start hitting those rhythms and those movements, all of a sudden,
it can become your own when you create your own
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chord patterns, your own melodies, your own lyrics, and your
own arrangements. And that's attributed to these unbelievable musicians that
are at my side again. John Kutz on drums out
of Waco, Texas. Jason Hartless on drums out of Nashville,
Johnny Big out of Waco. Here on bass and vocals.
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I hope you can come to Brenham on Saturday, the
thirty first of May. The music has never been more tight.
James Brown would hire us as his band. We're so
tight and so energetic. So these are the good old
days of my music. I'm telling you, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
The Kinney Store is where he's going to be by
the Way, which is a great, great venue owned by
two cops, and they're fantastic people. They have a very
loyal audience there and get there early. The food is
actually amazing. Ted Nugent is our guest. You know, you
inspire me. You talk about your age and in the
number of years you've done this. Two of the people
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I admire the most in the world for what they
do in their art and their craft or Hank Williams
Junior and Dan Pastorini, both of whom turned seventy six
on Tuesday this week. I got to tell you, I
bet when you were early in your career, nobody would
have said that Ted Nugent would be an inspiration for
longevity and happiness. But by golly, you have been. And
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that's that's in and of itself incredible.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I'm on a mission from God, Michael. Yeah. No, it's
about it's about work ethic. It's about dedication to providing
for your family and being in the asset column, being
willing to make risks and sacrifices so that you're again
there's only two columns. There's the asset column and there's
a liability column. And my dad, disciplined slash, forced us
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into being in the asset column. Productive members of our family,
our neighborhood, our community, our great nations, and as a sportsman,
as a hunter and a trapper and a fisherman, an
asset to the good earth that provides us quality of life.
So can you, mysterious mad can you hold it this moment?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Is our guest Ted nugent dot com. More coming on, Yes,
Michael very almost.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
The Motor City Madman is our guest. He has stayed
extra with us. A new project called the nuge Vault
you can find it at nuge vault dot com is
described as your front row seat to submerge yourself in
rock and roll history.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Like never before.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
This is occasioned by Ted Nugent's celebration of the fiftieth
five zero anniversary of his iconic rock album albu It's
an anthem album. Sorry I lost my train of thought, stranglehold.
He's got a speakeasy rockout gig tour going on. He's
going to be at the Kenney Store this weekend on
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the thirty first. He's got a blank Kicker. I'm not
allowed to say it, but it rhymes with pitt kicker.
Speakeasy rockouts in Michigan and Texas this spring and summer.
Uncle Ted played for us at the RCC, and I
will tell you a couple of takeaways I have from that, folks.
Number one is people love uncle Ted. We sold out
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just like that. We sold out fast. Number two is
we have never knew it did so much sound. It
was an entire eighteen wheeler of speakers.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That came in.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It was insane, I mean insane. Number three, this guy's
been doing this for more years than I've been alive.
And he does not mail it in. You pay good
money and he gives you everything he's got on stage
and before and after, and as a venue owner, that
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mattered more to me than anything else. And I don't
know if I've ever thanked you for that, but that
was a hell of a night.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Brother. Every night, thank you for that, Michael. And you're right,
there is an energy level that the real music lovers
bring to me, and the inspiration from the audience is
actually dangerous. I mean, I sweat so much on stage.
We have ducks on the limited come in because because
they expect to flush a mallard from my puddle of
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sweat on stage. Yes, there's a James Brown work ethic
that we deliver every night. And I tell my band
before we go on, tonight is the most important concert
of our life. And we say that every night because
every night is the most important concert of our life.
We want to deliver the beast, the grind, the groove,
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the fun, the spirit, the piss and the vinegar, the
middle finger against all things evil, which I weave into
the wonderful, entertaining evening. But yeah, well thank you for that,
because the people do rave about our shows because I've
I'm out of control. I mean I get on stage.
I can't wait to get on stage and play these songs.
As a guitar player, I just happen to have created
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some of the most exciting and fun guitar licks to
ever play. So I'm still like a crazy kid back
in Detroit nineteen fifty nine when I get ready to
perform every night, and I think the people have noticed that.
They celebrate that, and the reciprocity from audience to stage
is like a tsunami of energy. So once again, how
lucky can I be?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
All Right, I'm going to ask you a series of questions,
but I'm not going to let Ted Nujib be Ted nugent.
I just want you to give the shortest, most succinct
answer you can and without giving it much thought, just
whatever pops in your brain.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Okay, you got it.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You're gonna walk.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Out right now and pick up a bow and shoot it.
It's the bow that's going to allow you to be
most accurate.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
What is it.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm shooting a new Matthew's Lift lightweight, forty eight pound draw.
The mystical flight of the arrow has never been more
accurate with this technology. So that's the bow of my
choice these days?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Is there an arrow of choice? I don't know a
lot about.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Archery, you know, I'm shooting some gold tip arrows. They've
been making the Ted Nugents Zebra gold tip arrow for years,
but I'm also experimenting with a bunch of other arrows.
That state of archery and marksmanship, firearms and optics and
AMMO is at an all time high. So it's about
what you're most comfortable with, what feels good to you,
And it is important that that bow or that gun
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feels right, and that's the one you should shoot, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Not your favorite.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But if I asked you right now to lay your hands,
it might be on your hip, might be in your pocket,
it might be on the table next to you, on
the nearest handgun.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
What would it be?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's the same block model twenty ten millimeters, this on
my right hip, along with four magazines on my left hip.
Every day, everywhere, once Ted Nugent shows up, it is
no longer a gun free zone. I probably.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
What about what knife you could lay your hands on
the fastest?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I've got my old Victorianox pocket knife in my left pocket,
and I got a brand new steel Force a folding
knife on my right pocket, and I have a Leatherman
tool on my left hip. I'm on like a hardware store.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What meat did you most enjoy that you ate at
home that you killed within the last week.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
A beautiful south pig right here on the North Boski
River with my bone arrow, and she was just about
seventy five eighty pounds and it was the most delicious
backstrap with garlic and pepper and honey. I swear to God,
it's the meat of the gods.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Now, will you make chops and bacon and all that
out of her?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Absolutely? Yeah, we use it all man, Good for you.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
What do they say that the ruder to the tutor,
that's the way to do it, especially with it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yes, well, yeah, that's called conservation, the wise use of
a natural resource. And I always say the cuter, the cruter,
the sweeter the meat.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Now is that a reference? Is that a culinary reference?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I think it is. That's why I like lamb chops
so much.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I like the lamb lollipops. I don't know why that is.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
But it. Yes, with the ball, you gotta have the ball, right.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's just like it's it's a built in handle, you know.
It's like a toothbrush you can eat. I absolutely, absolutely
love it. All right, tell me a movie that you
have watched in the last month. It may not be
the all time greatest or your what you want to
be defined by that you really.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Enjoyed Man on Fire with Denzel Washington. I love. I'm
a big fan of Revenge.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yes, me too, Vindication very good. Okay, tell me somebody
that you are good friends with a celebrity from whatever
field that people would be surprised you're friends with because
y'all may not share the same political views.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, there's a gentleman who has a band called Rage
Against the Machine. His name is Tom Morello, and he
plays guitar and occasion with Bruce Springsteen and Bruce Springsteen
even though he had his foot in his mouth more
often than necessary. Bruce and Tom and I were all
raised on Chuck Berry and Mitch Ryder music, so I
will overlook the stupid politics and just jam on killer music.
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How's that.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I love it, and I can appreciate that the art
at that moment takes precedence. You know, it's really too
bad because Springsteen has written some really good stuff, and
I love his hard scrabble story and love his truth
in his how he stayed true to New Jersey in
the gritty you know, New Jersey Street. But my goodness,
his mind is warped. It's absolutely warped. When's the last
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time you spoke to President Trump? I know he adores you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Just a couple of months ago. I'm congratulating him, and
I'm bringing a lot of important issues to the forefront.
Some people who have been illegally law fared, like a
felon farmer in Michigan who's never been a wrestler or
given a speeding ticket, but he's now a felon because
he had a bad muffler on a tractor according to
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the jack boot thugs of the EPA. So we're seeking
a pardon for this good man. Those are the kinds
of issues that I fight for every day. And the
great Donald Trump, who's a real commander in chief, he
is addressing those. We got a sheriff pardoned in West
Virginia who was law fared, and there's been so much
of that. We have a target rich environment out there. Ye.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think Ed Martin's going to do a great job
at that. Uncle Ted, I'm up against a break. We
always appreciate your time. Ted Nugent dot com. You can
go to the Nuge Vault Nuge vault dot com.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
We love you brother, I love you back, Michael.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Godspeed buddy.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
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Speaker 1 (26:24):
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Speaker 2 (26:31):
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The Michael Barry Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You know him as the MotorCity mad Man. I know
him as Uncle Ted, one of our favorite guests of
all time. Heck, one of our favorite people of all time.
Leave the music, the hunting, the cooking, the politics, just
an inspiration in life. Ted Nugent, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You know, Mike. I feel welcome and from a favorite
people to another favorite people. I'm talking to you from
a beautiful monsoon in Waco, Texas. So happy twenty twenty
five to you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah we got we needed it, though, didn't we.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh. I love the rain. I love Mother Nature even
when she gives me the middle finger. I love storms
until the damage begins. But yeah, I've got a beautiful
ranch here in Texas and the vegetation the range is
lush and productive. The wildlife are celebrating. They're growing many
new backstraps for the fall harvest. So I'm a happy,
happy rock and roller.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, it's always a blast to have you on because
you bring such a message of hope, inspiration, dedication, commitment, motivation.
I think happiness is a choice that we make, and
more than happen is contentment, fulfillment, purpose and by golly,
you found yours brother.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Well and Michael back at shall I mean, I'm addicted
to truth logic and common sense. Not my truth logic
and common sense, but the evidence drench truth logic and
common sense that you represent so eloquently, so beautifully and
with a crowbar when necessary. But I listened to Michael
Berry Radio and you represent the heartbeat, the spirit, the attitude,
(01:34):
the energy, the hope, the dreams. I mean, I know
this gets kind of mushy right now.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We are coming out of.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Enough about you, more about me.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We are coming well. We're coming out of a very
heartbreaking toilet flush by the Deep State Uncle Sam, Joe
Biden gang, and there is unbelievable hope right now. I'll
be seventy seven, and I've never been more hopeful. I've
never been more happy with the direction of our country.
And plus I just had lunch with a bunch of
hard work in fellow Texas here and the spirit and
(02:06):
the work, ethic, godfamily country is now the battle cry
that is ubiquitous across the land. And my music represents that.
You and I talking about it represents that. So once again,
thank you for having me on Let's do.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Something we don't do enough of them. We'll get back
to politics and culture and life and cooking and hunting.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let's talk about your music.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
The fiftieth anniversary of Stranglehold. It's hard to believe. I
don't know if it's hard for you to believe. It's
hard to believe fifty years and I know you've got
some very exciting things for fans planned out for that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Let's discuss that.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, am I. We've talked about this before, that my
music has power and authority because of the incredible musicians
that have been at my side for the last sixty
five years. And we recorded Stranglehold in nineteen seventy five
with Rob Grange and Cliff Davis and Derek Saint Holmes,
my producers, Tom Wormon and engineer Tony Reality. Everybody just
(03:06):
immersed themselves into the spirit, the sound, the drum tones,
the guitar tones, the bass tones, the lyric content, the
piss and the vinegar, the energy of that song. And
people have embraced the song Stranglehold fifty years and onward.
Especially might the Navy seals that call me, the Army Rangers,
(03:26):
the Green Beret Delta Force that used that song during
their training end, when they're putting their life on the line.
And I can't imagine a testimonial that gives a guy
more confidence and happiness than a piece of music represents
that to those superhuman beings. So yeah, fifty years of straggling.
By the way, I played it for a buddy of
mine and my man Cave Cuckoo's Nest arsenal of Democracy
(03:47):
this morning, and the hairs on my arm stood up
fully erect because I still love the spirit of that song.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, it is timeless, It is truly timeless, and I
don't know that we've ever done this. Let's talk about
where that song came from, because I believe that art
floats in the ether and you just grab hold of
it for a moment.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
But what was going on with you?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
How did you first hear it? Were you noodling on
the guitar or did you hear it completely?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, I'm always playing. I played my guitar and shoot
my bow and trained with my firearms literally, Michael, every day.
It's just it's stuff that I have a passion about.
They all play a pragmatic and inspirational purpose in my life.
But in my youth, I was always playing Chuck Berry
and Bo Diddley and Little Richard and Motown funk Brothers,
and the right hand on my guitar developed a percussiveness,
(04:42):
a rhythmical kind of a nugent MotorCity version of Bo
Diddley's chuck a chuck A chucka. And just one day
I was tuning my guitar and that happened. That move happened,
and there was really nothing I could do about it.
It had a heartbeat of its own, and then the
lyrics just flowed. The lyrics are defiance against the music
(05:04):
industry that turned me down for all those years, because
long guitar solos don't make it anymore. We need some
pop music and disco's coming in. And I said, yeah,
well listen to this song, kids. So the song is
one of defiance against an industry that was losing its
touch with the original black influences of soul music and
rhythm and blues inspired rock and roll. So like this morning, Michael,
(05:27):
this morning, I was playing a Gibson Birdland through a
Fender twin app and I'm telling you all these new
variations kind of a bastardized honky tonk meets boogie woogie,
and there's always new topography to explore on the guitar neck.
And because I have such a passion and a dedication
to trying to be Chuck Berry when I grow up,
(05:48):
that all these new lick patterns happen. It happens all
the time.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You know, you have talked a lot over the years
in our conversations about Chuck Berry, and I think a
lot of young folks to say, we'll have no idea how
big Chuck Berry was and also how influential Chuck Berry was.
Why is that for you?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Well, I think I've summarized it numerous times in interviews,
and the facts remain that there's not a piece of music.
Now that this is a bold, expansive statement, which I'm
pretty good at, but there isn't a piece of music,
Michael Berry, that you really get a kick out of
and want to turn up when it comes on the
(06:32):
radio and makes your truck go faster that doesn't have
an essence of what Chuck Berry created cadence wise, rhythmically, upbeat,
spirit wise, cocky, irreverent fun. There is not a powerful
piece of music in anyone's life, and I'd be glad
(06:53):
to debate this for anybody that doesn't have a direct
inspiration from Chuck Berry's catalog. I don't care if it's country,
I don't care if it's blues. I don't care if
it's rock and roll. Even a lot of pop music
they've got that Chuck Berry cadence that when you listen
to Johnny be Good or Carol or roll Over Beethoven
or Sweet Sixteen, you listen to those original Chuck Berry songs,
(07:16):
and it's a parent that all moving, authoritative music comes
from that genius. And Michael I played bass guitar with
Chuck Berry, which is why I am like I am today.
I promise you.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, you know your life experiences. Of course they didn't
happen by chance. You made them happen. You made your experience.
Oh I'm up against s Frank hold on this a moment.
Uncle Ted Ted Nugent is our guest. You can find
out more at Ted Nugent dot com, Ted Nugent dot com.
If you're a Nuge fan, he's got some exciting stuff
(07:51):
coming up at nuge vault dot com nuge vault dot com.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
We'll talk about us.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Kids from Duck King of Ding and this other guy,
Michael Barry.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
This is a kind of guy you like to smacking ass.
Uncle Ted.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Ted Nugent, the MotorCity Madman is our guest and normally
over the years and it's been many that he comes
on the show. We talk about politics, we talk about culture,
We talk about who he's pissed off lately, who he he,
what changes he wants or we talk about hunting and
food and family and nature and faith and these important things.
(08:26):
But today is a treat for me because I figure
he's tired of talking about music all the time and
there's much more to him than that. But today we're
getting to talk about the music, and that's a treat
because I don't normally get to Uncle Ted. You have
something exciting going on at the nuge Vault, which is
nugevault dot com.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Talk about that.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Please well again, Michael, thanks letting me share my passions
and my love of music and the American dream with you.
I'm just such a lucky guy with all these incredibles.
Dedicated musicians at my side. In twenty twenty five, with
John Coots on drums and Jason Hartless and Johnny Big
on bass were playing Kenny Storr in Brenham, Texas, next weekend.
(09:11):
And we've been doing these speakes. He's around the state,
and I'm telling you, talking about defying gravity. I am
having more guitar music fun in twenty twenty five doing
these gigs around my home state of Texas than I
ever have. In fact, I will be doing my seven
thousandth concert. And what happened during rehearsals in the barn
in Michigan is my drummer Jason Hartless saw all these
(09:34):
vats and all these boxes piled sky high around my
trucks and my deer blinds, and he said, what's all
that stuff? And I go, oh, those are old tapes
of rehearsals and jam sessions and recording sessions. He started digging, Michael.
He has unearthed the jam sessions and the songwriting sessions,
and the outtakes and the demos and the unfinished tapes
(09:56):
of all the recordings, thousands of concerts, and it's just
fascinating history of not just Ted Nugent rock and roll,
but the origins of rock and roll, from the founding
fathers that Chuck Berry's and the Motown Funk Brothers and
now at nudge Vault. It's fascinating. It's a place called
(10:18):
nuge vault dot com. We've got these subscribers that are
just doing double backflips because of the outtakes and the
demos and the jam sessions and a lot of my
very fun interviews like I do with Michael Berry. But
all of this is available at nuge vault dot com
and people are just getting having a riot with it,
and so am I, because it's really rekindling a lot
(10:39):
of the memories of just unbelievable moments where these songs happened,
and these jam sessions created these new songs, and these
amazing musicians would collaborate with ideas. So it's nuge vault
dot com and we'll be exposing a lot of that
on a bunch of gigs here in Texas and then
up in Michigan in August.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You know, and I know that special for you. You're
a Texan now through and through, but I know Michigan
holds a special place in your heart. I had a
Sunday school teacher say to me twenty five years ago,
if you want to know who you said to all
of us in the class, we want know who you're
going to be five years from now. Look at your
closest friends, because they're going to pick you up or
(11:20):
they're going to drop you down. They're going to take
you with them where they're going. That's where you're headed.
And it's interesting. I talk to a lot of musicians.
I'm passionate about music. I can't make music, but somebody
has to consume it, right, And I'm really passionate about
how the art is made and what it means to
people and these sorts of things. And you talk about collaboration.
(11:40):
Every time you and I talk and I ask you
a question about Ted Nugent and what Ted Nugent has done,
you always go to a Chuck Berry comes up a lot.
You always go to the influences and the collaboration. And
I think that's a takeaway whatever you're in, if you're
a financial advisor, a plant worker, the people you surround
(12:01):
yourself with and bounce off of are going to make
you better or worse. And I hear that from you
every time I talk to you. How playing with other
people and their influences and those collaborations is a thrill
for you and has made you who you are.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And I think that's important.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I don't think there's anything more important. My dad used
to say as I was growing up, tell me who
you hang with, and I'll tell you who you are. Now.
I dismiss that in my stupidity of youth, but it
turned out to be true. And I have an inner circle,
quite an expansive inner circle, Michael, which, by the way,
you're a member of a good people of the spirit,
(12:41):
good will and decency, work, ethic, God, family, country. Still
conduct our lives based on the Constitution, the build rights
and decoration of independence and commandments, the Golden Rule, law
and order, good over evil, self defense, freedom of speech, etc. Etc.
And those are the people that I accumulated in my family,
(13:01):
my friends, my band, my crew, my management, my hunting buddies.
I have a hunting operation called Sunrise Safaris, and Michael,
I share campfires with hundreds and hundreds of families every year.
And that's why I salute you, because when you talk,
you talk just like those families around the campfire that
(13:24):
put their heart and soul into being the best that
you can be. And when you put your heart and
soul into being the best that you can be as
a musician, great music happens so I've always surrounded myself
with the best rhythm section, the best singers, the best creators,
and you hear that in the music. The performance that
these guys put into my compositions is every artist's dream
(13:48):
because there's a passion. And by the way, we keep
mentioning Chuck Berry. Everybody in all of my bands and
all of my crew, everybody references Chuck Berry. So that cadence,
that spirit, that energy, that uppiness, that defiance. There's a
lot of defiance in that music, and that's what inspires us.
And even though we're old men now, Michael, when we
(14:11):
get in the barn and start jamming, it's like a
bunch of kids. It's like a bunch of kids that
want to play Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley and play
motown hits. In fact, we do. That's how all of
our rehearsals start with those classic songs. And once you
start hitting those rhythms and those movements, all of a sudden,
it can become your own when you create your own
(14:32):
chord patterns, your own melodies, your own lyrics, and your
own arrangements. And that's attributed to these unbelievable musicians that
are at my side again. John Kutz on drums out
of Waco, Texas. Jason Hartless on drums out of Nashville,
Johnny Big out of Waco. Here on bass and vocals.
(14:52):
I hope you can come to Brenham on Saturday, the
thirty first of May. The music has never been more tight.
James Brown would hire us as his band. We're so
tight and so energetic. So these are the good old
days of my music. I'm telling you, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
The Kinney Store is where he's going to be by
the Way, which is a great, great venue owned by
two cops, and they're fantastic people. They have a very
loyal audience there and get there early. The food is
actually amazing. Ted Nugent is our guest. You know, you
inspire me. You talk about your age and in the
number of years you've done this. Two of the people
(15:30):
I admire the most in the world for what they
do in their art and their craft or Hank Williams
Junior and Dan Pastorini, both of whom turned seventy six
on Tuesday this week. I got to tell you, I
bet when you were early in your career, nobody would
have said that Ted Nugent would be an inspiration for
longevity and happiness. But by golly, you have been. And
(15:52):
that's that's in and of itself incredible.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I'm on a mission from God, Michael. Yeah. No, it's
about it's about work ethic. It's about dedication to providing
for your family and being in the asset column, being
willing to make risks and sacrifices so that you're again
there's only two columns. There's the asset column and there's
a liability column. And my dad, disciplined slash, forced us
(16:22):
into being in the asset column. Productive members of our family,
our neighborhood, our community, our great nations, and as a sportsman,
as a hunter and a trapper and a fisherman, an
asset to the good earth that provides us quality of life.
So can you, mysterious mad can you hold it this moment?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Is our guest Ted nugent dot com. More coming on, Yes,
Michael very almost.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
The Motor City Madman is our guest. He has stayed
extra with us. A new project called the nuge Vault
you can find it at nuge vault dot com is
described as your front row seat to submerge yourself in
rock and roll history.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Like never before.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
This is occasioned by Ted Nugent's celebration of the fiftieth
five zero anniversary of his iconic rock album albu It's
an anthem album. Sorry I lost my train of thought, stranglehold.
He's got a speakeasy rockout gig tour going on. He's
going to be at the Kenney Store this weekend on
(17:34):
the thirty first. He's got a blank Kicker. I'm not
allowed to say it, but it rhymes with pitt kicker.
Speakeasy rockouts in Michigan and Texas this spring and summer.
Uncle Ted played for us at the RCC, and I
will tell you a couple of takeaways I have from that, folks.
Number one is people love uncle Ted. We sold out
(17:54):
just like that. We sold out fast. Number two is
we have never knew it did so much sound. It
was an entire eighteen wheeler of speakers.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That came in.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It was insane, I mean insane. Number three, this guy's
been doing this for more years than I've been alive.
And he does not mail it in. You pay good
money and he gives you everything he's got on stage
and before and after, and as a venue owner, that
(18:26):
mattered more to me than anything else. And I don't
know if I've ever thanked you for that, but that
was a hell of a night.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Brother. Every night, thank you for that, Michael. And you're right,
there is an energy level that the real music lovers
bring to me, and the inspiration from the audience is
actually dangerous. I mean, I sweat so much on stage.
We have ducks on the limited come in because because
they expect to flush a mallard from my puddle of
(18:51):
sweat on stage. Yes, there's a James Brown work ethic
that we deliver every night. And I tell my band
before we go on, tonight is the most important concert
of our life. And we say that every night because
every night is the most important concert of our life.
We want to deliver the beast, the grind, the groove,
(19:13):
the fun, the spirit, the piss and the vinegar, the
middle finger against all things evil, which I weave into
the wonderful, entertaining evening. But yeah, well thank you for that,
because the people do rave about our shows because I've
I'm out of control. I mean I get on stage.
I can't wait to get on stage and play these songs.
As a guitar player, I just happen to have created
(19:35):
some of the most exciting and fun guitar licks to
ever play. So I'm still like a crazy kid back
in Detroit nineteen fifty nine when I get ready to
perform every night, and I think the people have noticed that.
They celebrate that, and the reciprocity from audience to stage
is like a tsunami of energy. So once again, how
lucky can I be?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
All Right, I'm going to ask you a series of questions,
but I'm not going to let Ted Nujib be Ted nugent.
I just want you to give the shortest, most succinct
answer you can and without giving it much thought, just
whatever pops in your brain.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Okay, you got it.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You're gonna walk.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Out right now and pick up a bow and shoot it.
It's the bow that's going to allow you to be
most accurate.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
What is it.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm shooting a new Matthew's Lift lightweight, forty eight pound draw.
The mystical flight of the arrow has never been more
accurate with this technology. So that's the bow of my
choice these days?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Is there an arrow of choice? I don't know a
lot about.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Archery, you know, I'm shooting some gold tip arrows. They've
been making the Ted Nugents Zebra gold tip arrow for years,
but I'm also experimenting with a bunch of other arrows.
That state of archery and marksmanship, firearms and optics and
AMMO is at an all time high. So it's about
what you're most comfortable with, what feels good to you,
And it is important that that bow or that gun
(20:55):
feels right, and that's the one you should shoot, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Not your favorite.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But if I asked you right now to lay your hands,
it might be on your hip, might be in your pocket,
it might be on the table next to you, on
the nearest handgun.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
What would it be?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
It's the same block model twenty ten millimeters, this on
my right hip, along with four magazines on my left hip.
Every day, everywhere, once Ted Nugent shows up, it is
no longer a gun free zone. I probably.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
What about what knife you could lay your hands on
the fastest?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I've got my old Victorianox pocket knife in my left pocket,
and I got a brand new steel Force a folding
knife on my right pocket, and I have a Leatherman
tool on my left hip. I'm on like a hardware store.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What meat did you most enjoy that you ate at
home that you killed within the last week.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
A beautiful south pig right here on the North Boski
River with my bone arrow, and she was just about
seventy five eighty pounds and it was the most delicious
backstrap with garlic and pepper and honey. I swear to God,
it's the meat of the gods.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Now, will you make chops and bacon and all that
out of her?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Absolutely? Yeah, we use it all man, Good for you.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
What do they say that the ruder to the tutor,
that's the way to do it, especially with it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yes, well, yeah, that's called conservation, the wise use of
a natural resource. And I always say the cuter, the cruter,
the sweeter the meat.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Now is that a reference? Is that a culinary reference?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I think it is. That's why I like lamb chops
so much.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I like the lamb lollipops. I don't know why that is.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
But it. Yes, with the ball, you gotta have the ball, right.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's just like it's it's a built in handle, you know.
It's like a toothbrush you can eat. I absolutely, absolutely
love it. All right, tell me a movie that you
have watched in the last month. It may not be
the all time greatest or your what you want to
be defined by that you really.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Enjoyed Man on Fire with Denzel Washington. I love. I'm
a big fan of Revenge.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yes, me too, Vindication very good. Okay, tell me somebody
that you are good friends with a celebrity from whatever
field that people would be surprised you're friends with because
y'all may not share the same political views.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well, there's a gentleman who has a band called Rage
Against the Machine. His name is Tom Morello, and he
plays guitar and occasion with Bruce Springsteen and Bruce Springsteen
even though he had his foot in his mouth more
often than necessary. Bruce and Tom and I were all
raised on Chuck Berry and Mitch Ryder music, so I
will overlook the stupid politics and just jam on killer music.
(23:49):
How's that.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I love it, and I can appreciate that the art
at that moment takes precedence. You know, it's really too
bad because Springsteen has written some really good stuff, and
I love his hard scrabble story and love his truth
in his how he stayed true to New Jersey in
the gritty you know, New Jersey Street. But my goodness,
his mind is warped. It's absolutely warped. When's the last
(24:14):
time you spoke to President Trump? I know he adores you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Just a couple of months ago. I'm congratulating him, and
I'm bringing a lot of important issues to the forefront.
Some people who have been illegally law fared, like a
felon farmer in Michigan who's never been a wrestler or
given a speeding ticket, but he's now a felon because
he had a bad muffler on a tractor according to
(24:39):
the jack boot thugs of the EPA. So we're seeking
a pardon for this good man. Those are the kinds
of issues that I fight for every day. And the
great Donald Trump, who's a real commander in chief, he
is addressing those. We got a sheriff pardoned in West
Virginia who was law fared, and there's been so much
of that. We have a target rich environment out there. Ye.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think Ed Martin's going to do a great job
at that. Uncle Ted, I'm up against a break. We
always appreciate your time. Ted Nugent dot com. You can
go to the Nuge Vault Nuge vault dot com.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
We love you brother, I love you back, Michael.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Godspeed buddy.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
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(26:01):
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Speaker 1 (26:06):
Director of Research is Sandy Peterson.
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Speaker 1 (26:24):
God bless the memory of Rush Limbaugh. Long live Elvis,
be a simple.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Man like Leonard Skinnard told you, and God bless America. Finally,
if you know a veteran suffering from PTSD, call Camp
Hope at eight seven seven seven one seven PTSD and
a combat veteran will answer the phone to provide free
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