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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. Michael
Very Show is on the air, as President Trump posted, just.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Now the great and even legendary Charlie has died. Gret
He then paid tribute to him and the incredible influence
he had, particularly on young people, noting that he was

(00:45):
loved and admired by all, and the President noting especially.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Me, and now he is no longer with us. He
then on behalf of him and Melania sent his sympathies
to Charlie's beautiful wife, Erica, and their family, their two children,
closing with Charlie, we love you. That's all we're going

(01:11):
to talk about on the program today. Let mean, for
those of you knew to the program, let me explain
a couple of things, because it will help you understand
why I talk about certain things and don't talk about
other things that maybe you expect me to. This is
not every other program out there. We're no better, no worse.

(01:34):
We're just different and there's a place for every kind
of show. We do the show we want to do,
and so that you understand what that is, let me
start by saying, whether you loved Charlie Kirk liked him,
appreciated what he did, kind of knew who he was,

(01:56):
showed up his events, followed turning Point USA, follow his career,
followed him on Twitter, watched listened to his show, or
just kind of had a general idea that you and
he maybe agreed on most things, or maybe hadn't even

(02:16):
formed an opinion on it, whatever that may be. If
your first reaction upon finding out that he's been assassinated
today while speaking on a campus, if your first reaction
is to rush and see what MSNBC or CNN or

(02:38):
for that matter, NBCCBS, ABC has said about him, Certain
in your mind that at a minimum, they're not going
to pay proper tribute to his life and his accomplishments
and his service and his mission. But relatively certain they're
going to say he deserved it, which of course they did.

(03:02):
They're going to say he was hateful, which of course
they did. If the first place you turned upon getting
that news is people you don't care for who hate you,
I think we need to rethink our priorities because you

(03:26):
weren't going to find comfort and solace in their words.
It means the immediate reaction was not to make sense
of this, but to be angry at the very people

(03:47):
who have created the environment in which these sorts of
things are festering and occurring all too often. Kirk turned
to God. He had a post three weeks ago, it's
all about Jesus. If it's all about Jesus for you,

(04:11):
the place to turn is not seeing in ready to
smash your TV. That's not going to give you what
you personally need at that moment. Yeah, I'm mad. I'm furious,
and I'm not just furious because I feel certain this

(04:33):
comes from the left, because the Democrats, because they get
away with it. Because if it was this and everyone.
I'm mad because a father will not be there to
tuck his children in tonight, two little children that he
loved dearly. We got so many men who make babies

(04:55):
and don't raise them. But here's one who loved his children,
he loved his wife. Eric now a father and head
of household, who provided and cared and loved, sacrificed for
them will not be there. Then we move out one
ring on this circle. We all claim what we believe,

(05:20):
our personal faith as Christians, our love of our country,
our belief in its greatness, our belief that it changed
the world, and continues to be so, continues to do so.
But do we do so fearlessly? Do we do so

(05:41):
with such confidence that the mission is more important than
the safety of it. Charlie didn't take unnecessary risks. He
didn't go looking for trouble. I think the most brilliant
thing I saw, the most measured thing I saw, said today,

(06:04):
came from John Rocker, former a baseball player, who would
have thought and he said. All Charlie Kirk wanted to
do was debate the great issues because he believed in dialogue.
That's all he wanted to do. What he died, he'm doing.

(06:25):
The last word he spoke before if he was killed,
was violent and wanting to bring an end to it.
The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry Show. I am very
comfortable with the end of life. Those sayin should both.
I'm very comfortable with mortality. It is part of the plan.

(06:55):
Even if you weren't a believer, any serious study of
science would tell you it is eventual and inevitable. It's
just a question of winning. How today, I spend a

(07:15):
lot of time after the initial news thinking through what
I could learn from this, How our nation will change
from this, how people will change how people will react,
how people will act tomorrow and the next day and
the next day, because many people live headlined to headline,

(07:43):
story to story, whether it's Trump getting shot in the head,
or tiny little Ukrainian refugee lady getting stabbed in the
throat by a man who didn't know her, or Charlie
Charlie Kerr being shot. As of this moment, I don't

(08:04):
think we know who the shooter is. There's a man
who was grabbed and there seems to be certainty that
he was not the shooter from law enforcement on the scene.
His behavior is quite odd for a man who wasn't.
But there is video making its way around the internet

(08:28):
at a time when the curiosity seekers just can't get
enough that appears to be a man who might likely
be the shooter, crouching in a shooting position and running
on a roof. All of those are details. You're going
to get that around the clock, around the clock. This

(08:49):
will be a banner day for news, the news industry,
the website's Twitter banner day. They'll make more money today
they normally do. And in a sense, Charlie would get
a kick out of that that he could contribute to
that it's a sign of his massive influence. Four days

(09:15):
short of being thirty two years old, a kid to
me and the impact he had. Six weeks ago, he tweeted,
get married, have kids, and stop partying into oblivion. Leave

(09:36):
a legacy, Be courageous, Happy Sunday, God bless all the
parents out there. Little could he know that six weeks
later his legacy would be cemented, his work on this
earth done. How many of us could say, if we

(10:04):
were taken in a moment, in whatever manner, that we
did everything we could. We stood for everything we believed,
we cared for those who God placed into our care
with everything we had. We didn't say, but once I

(10:26):
get this done, I'll take care of that. How many
people could say that, we're not going to spend time
on the show today if you're wondering with all the theories,
the details, there's so much of that out there already.

(10:47):
I can't add anything to that. I don't measure up
to that, especially because I refuse to state a lot
of the things that I get, ninety five percent of
which are untrue. There are already artificial intelligence videos making
their way around the Internet. There's accusations that this group

(11:09):
was involved, or that group was involved. We'll find that out.
There's a time and place on the day I die.
If I'm still on the air and somebody cracks this mic,
please don't let it be Ramon because he'll fall asleep
or hit the dinger too many times. But whoever it
is that they put in behind this microphone, the only

(11:32):
thing I want them to say is how much I
loved being a husband and a father, and how much
I loved you, and how much you meant to me,
how much I loved the people who got behind me
as sponsors and programmers, and all the people who allowed

(11:53):
me to get an opportunity to get in the game,
to try to save this country. All I want, I
don't whoever it was it brought my end, whether it
be cancer or a car wreck or an assassin, they
don't deserve this day. This is Charlie Kirksday, and in

(12:17):
my opinion, you're free to have your own. It does
not honor the work this young man did to engage
in that same silly Internet universe currency of clout chasing

(12:41):
by claiming to be the person who has this or
that inside information. We did have good news from his
camp earlier today that he'd been rushed into surgery and
there was a chance he would survive. I don't know

(13:02):
if that was true. I do know that I have
seen mothers and fathers of young ones who've died, and
when the news is delivered, the first word out of
their mouth is always the same, no, no, no no,

(13:23):
and they will push you away because they don't want
to believe it. You hold on to hope, especially such
a young man. Just a matter of days ago, Charlie
posted It's all about Jesus. He didn't say it's all
about Jesus. But if you don't pray to Jesus, that's

(13:45):
all right. It's all about Jesus unless that's not who
you pray to. Hope, that doesn't offend. That's what he
did and that's why he did it. I'm not worried
about Charlie. I'm worried about us. Through Marcus the Trail,
the lone survivor, I got to meet Dakoda of Myers,
the Medal of Honor winner, I think the youngest to

(14:06):
have won it since I don't know in a very
very myyer, not Myers, in a very very long time.
And we were in the studio then, so we used
to do in studio interviews. We don't do that anymore.
And oddly enough, one of the reasons I don't reasons

(14:31):
I don't let anyone know where our studio is. And
I think this is also true of Mark Levin. I
think it was also true of Rush is we don't
want the crazies to have an opportunity to silence us.
And so Dakota came in and sat down and we

(14:54):
started having a conversation. And this is a man who
faced down death in war. He was wearing a shirt
that said own the Dash, own space th dash, owned
the Dash period and as he would want you to do,
I said, Dakota, what does that mean? He said, well,

(15:17):
when you die, which we all will, there'll be the
date you were born, and there will be the date
that you died. And that part's not really important. What
matters is that Dash own that dash. We're not all
given the same number of years on this earth by

(15:41):
any means. Charlie was four days short of his thirty
second birthday. That's too darn, young dad, coming he did
more in his thirty one years, three hundred and sixty
one days, then most people will do in a lifetime,

(16:04):
a full lifetime. I want a third caught. He can't
get away with this. That cannot happen. Every resource should
be exhausted. During the break there was a press conference.

(16:25):
It's still going on now. There's nothing. They're saying. They
don't know much yet, at least not that they're willing
to say. I'm not a news show. We have news
in between our show. That's their job. It's not mine.
When I tell you we're not a news show, I
mean it. Sean's a news show. It's what Seawn does.
He's very good at it. Not to say we're better,

(16:45):
we're different. What I do is try to provide perspective
for the news that you can get a hundred other places,
and maybe that can add to your overall consumtp of
the news and how you process it and what you
do when you lay in bed tonight and think about
the day you had and what's happening tomorrow in Charlie

(17:09):
Kirk's life and his assassination and how it can happen
in his family, and what you'll do tomorrow and who
will be tomorrow, And I hope I can contribute something
to that. So that's what I do, But Dakota's comment
has stuck with me. Here's a man who went to war,
Here's a man who faced down death every day, own

(17:31):
the dash. If all we do in response to Charlie
Kirk's assassination is get really angry and wrote and post
really angry things, have we honored the life that he led?

(17:52):
Is that his legacy to get people really stoked up,
so when they assassinated him, we'd be for how long?
How long are you going to sustain that anger? Really?
For honest, you're not impressing me with how mad you are.
We're all mad. Of course we're mad. You think Donald

(18:15):
Trump's not mad. We don't make many good decisions in anger.
Anger is what dogs feel, Anger is what terrorists feel.
Anger is what gang bangers and turds, mentally slow people
like democrats feel. Our job is to figure out who

(18:43):
and what we are and what we're going to do.
Because now there's nobody on stage, the seat is empty,
the microphone silent. Oh sure, I've watched that video one
hundred times, two hundred. I don't know. I've seen every
different angle that was available before we went on the air.

(19:06):
I don't know why I guess I wanted to make
sense of it. I guess partly because we're curious, of
morbid curiosity. I'm not sure it appeals to our better senses.
I'm not sure how much of our desperate desire to
see more and learn more of the facts is a
good thing or healthy thing. If we're completely honest, it

(19:30):
might be like that eighty eighth bond bond. We keep
eating them, but they're not good for us. But we
convince ourselves. We convince ourselves that we just love our
country and we love Charlie. And because we love Charlie,
we love our country and want the best. And the
Left is evil. Give me more details, Give me more details,
Give me more details. Tell me again how evil the

(19:51):
left is. I didn't need Charlie Kirk to be assassinated
to know how evil the left is. I don't think
there are any more evil because they assassinated him. But
that's not because I think it's okay they assassinated him.
That's because I already knew how evil they were. I
already knew what they were going to say when he

(20:12):
was assassinated. I just didn't know what the event was
that they were going to have that opinion of because
they didn't speak about Charlie Kirk. They didn't know him.
They didn't speak about you or me or real people
that don't have a talk show or a television show
or a column or a website. They did what they'd

(20:33):
do all day, every day because they're evil and they
are in service to evil. I believe, truly believe in
good and evil. I think good people sometimes engage in
evil things, and I even think evil people sometimes engage
in good things. But I believe in good and evil,

(20:54):
and I believe it is a battle, and I believe
that we have to choose good. I want swift justice,
I want thorough justice. I want every person involved to
be hunted down and hanged. But in the meantime, I'm
going to serve God and try to improve this country.
And me being angry it's not going to help you show.

(21:19):
FBI Director Cash to Tell has posted the subject for
the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie
kirkis now in custody. Thank you to the local and
state authorities in Utah for your partnership with the FBI.

(21:39):
We will provide updates when able. There was an old
man named George Zen who was arrested on the scene.
He was saying some crazy things like shoot me now.
He was acting erratically. There was video footage of a

(22:02):
man on a roof that this old man clearly could
not have been. This person is going to turn out
to be much younger and in much better shape the
way he was moving on top of that roof, and
those details will come out. We will find out who
they are. I am not as skeptical of the FBI's

(22:27):
efforts under cash Betel's leadership and under the President's direction
as I would be were this another administration, and I
will engage in a war of words, and I will
call out the black racism, the black violence, the white
liberal nonsense, the craziness, the white liberal racism. I will

(22:51):
demand that our borders be closed and that children not
be cross dressed or have their wieners cut off. I
will never stop doing that because I belie leave I
believe in what I say, not to entertain or engage
or insight. I believe that these are the best things
for our children and for our country, and I will
not stop believing those and I will not stop saying

(23:15):
those things. I have chosen a lane for myself. I
am not all things to all people, neither my message
nor the medium. I do not go out and do
university speeches. That was a commitment I made to my
wife years ago. But I admired Charlie that he did,
and for that manner I admired Ben that he did.

(23:39):
I do and I always did. That's brave, that's fearless.
I am less brave and less fearless when it comes
to that action. I don't go out in public and
announce where I'm going to be on the few occasions
I do. I have a lot of security. Charlie was

(23:59):
traveling light considering the threats on him. Sure he faced
it down every day. I've always admired people who could
do that. That's not stupid, that's not crazy. That's tough.
How tough I am not, certainly not at this point

(24:20):
in my life. And maybe if Charlie lived to be
fifty four, maybe he wouldn't have done that either. I
don't know, but he was where he knew he needed
to be. And I do think there is a purpose
to all things, though it is not obvious to us

(24:41):
at that moment. We are too close to everything, too emotional,
too attached to be able to understand the bigger picture
of things and how it will unravel. Rush used to
say that understand what's happening in real time. We don't

(25:04):
understand it. We can't make sense of it. We can
just react silly. As it is a song that Garth
Brooks used to sing sometimes, I thank God for unanswered prayers.
How many things that we wish would be granted unto
us do not happen, And we later realize that that

(25:29):
was God's plan and that it was better that it didn't.
Oh my heartaches for that family. We're all gonna die,
and if I'm the first to go, don't worry about me.
I have had a wonderful, wonderful life. My mother said

(25:54):
that to me a week before she died, when she
made the decision to end her try treatment and head home.
He said, I don't want you to cry for me
one time. I've had a great life, and as usual
I didn't follow her direction. That has given me so
much peace. I think about what Charlie Kirk said, not

(26:20):
in the privacy of his own bedroom, not at a
dinner party of people who shared his beliefs. I think
about what he said, surrounded by a bunch of people
who wanted him dead. If you want to know how
much they wanted him dead, feel free. There was a
whole cesspool of internet out there just waitinglick click click,
click click click. Go get after it. Go dig in,

(26:43):
drink deep, swallow it all, choke on it, and vomit everywhere,
because that's what it does to you. It's poison. It
is poison to your soul. Make no mistake, I am
not saying that we pretend this didn't happen and go
on our merry way and say God will find a way.
All is well. No, no, no, that is not what

(27:06):
I am saying. To be clear, This does not make
me afraid. This makes me more resolute that in my
lane doing what I'm doing, I want to do it better.
I want to do it more effectively. I want to
do it more fearlessly. And I would hope we would all.

(27:29):
What a legacy for a thirty one year old, for
all intents and purposes to me at my age, kid
who started this in his teens, What a legacy If
he could inspire the nation, boy, that's a bigger legacy
than any of us are ever going to achieve as
the head of an organization. What if more people say,

(27:54):
you know what, I got to come forward. I need
to go give speeches. I need to evangelize for truth.
I need to speak out about the harmful effects of
bad policies and bad philosophies and toxic, toxic practices, some

(28:18):
of which do so under the name of a religion.
Now there's a legacy, because that's what we are left with.
We don't get to rewrite this history. We are left
with a legacy, and we have to ask ourselves where
will we spend the energy God gave us? Because if
you cared about this potion, because you listened to him

(28:38):
and you loved what he did. His goal was to
change this country for the better and save the next generation,
two of which were his own. And we should focus
our energy in ways that do that. Productive ways anger
not really productive for it. Prayer, resolute conviction, action, fearlessness, kindness, love. Funny,

(29:10):
the Bible's kind of timeless, isn't it.
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