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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Varry Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
There are cultural impediments to doing this work. And let's
say you work in the FBI, you know that one
of the two political parties is, let me put it nicely,
white supremacist adjacent at a minimum.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So there's a lot of people that are like, you
know what, like, let's go find the safest white boy.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
We find poor kids. You're just as bright and just
as talent as white kids.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Is that this election has proven, that this administration has
proven painfully in some ways, is that black people cannot
save this.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Country from white folks. We can't do it alone.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Right, If white folks aren't going to join in, if
white women aren't going to join in, if Latinos aren't
going to join.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
In, we can't do it alone.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
We will not back down in our pursuit of racial justice.
The antidota anti blackness is to be pro black and
we will do it unapologetically. But the United State government
owes us a debt and we need reparations.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
That are politics that says like there are superior in
fear human beings just in the way to go. And
that's the thing that white people don't trust us to
do because they are so corrupt, you know, their thinking
is so morally and spiritually bankrupted.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
First, here's what it takes for Black Jobs.
Speaker 8 (01:22):
I love his phrase black jobs. Tell us a lot
about the band and about his character.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Just three and a half years we've created over true
Minion new Black Job.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
You have a problem figuring out whether you're pre may
or Trump and you ain't black.
Speaker 9 (01:38):
And my brother, it don't come back.
Speaker 10 (01:42):
But I also was on the ticket quite honestly, you know,
because I could code talk to white guys watching football
fixing their trials.
Speaker 11 (01:49):
I've said for quite some time, and I believe this
to be true, that you don't follow the stock market
on a day to day basis. Now, financial advice will
tell you you don't fallow stock market day to day
because they don't want you pulling your money out. And
you could argue that they make money on the big
They get action off of the investment, so whether it's
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up or down, they're still getting their percentage. Now, that
depends a lot on what kind of relationship you have
and what kind of financial structure you have established, whether
they are a fiduciary as Ramone loves to say about
his guy or you know my guy who is a
fee based but anyway, it doesn't matter. I mean, technically
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his is too. But he thinks the word fiduciary is
a big word and he doesn't know what it means.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But anyway, I'll leave that. I'll leave that there for
a second.
Speaker 11 (02:42):
You would think, I think Ramone thinks that his money
manager when he goes to the doctor and you put
in occupation, says fiduciary. I think he believes that he
doesn't understand what the term actually means.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
But whatever.
Speaker 11 (02:56):
Anyway, I have long said, when you keep me on track,
that you don't watch the stock market up and up,
you know, on a given day, because too.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Many vagaries of news and.
Speaker 11 (03:11):
Happenings and rumors can affect things negatively or positively.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
That is irrational.
Speaker 11 (03:18):
Now, the stock market had seen a dip when President
Trump took over, when the tariff talk heated up bigly,
and I read a lot of things. I try to
consume opinion from across the spectrum, and most everybody who
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was not you know, deeply in Trump's corner, was saying,
these tariffs are a bad idea. Look at the stock market.
Looking at the stock market is not a good way
to measure long term economic plans.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
In fact, it's a terrible way when.
Speaker 11 (03:58):
You understand that the not the stock market is not
repeat is not a rational, practical, sophisticated determinant of whether
current economic plans are going to yield prosperity. Generally, the
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stock market can rise or fall dramatically on the basis
of a lie, on the basis of hype, on the
basis of fears never come true, all sorts of things.
It is a marketplace, and there is the idea that
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with sufficient numbers you achieve there's even an economic theory
on this, but I don't want to get too far
into this. You can achieve a sense of efficiency. Well,
this is about as rational as the idea that the
housing market bust in two thousand and eight was based
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on taking a bad loan. You got a guy that
makes fifty thousand dollars a year and he lives in Houston,
and he takes a loan on a house in Arizona
for four hundred thousand dollars, and he airbnb's the house,
or back then there was a different process. But he
gives it to somebody to rent and he makes the
minimal payment and he's counting on in a year selling
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it for five hundred, and they're called liar loans.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
He would go and take that and signed that he made, you.
Speaker 11 (05:33):
Know, two million dollars a year, and so he would
he would he would lie on his application, like like
Letitia James did in New York. But these were unverified loans,
which meant you tell them what they what you make
state because stated income. Uh, they would loan you money
based on what you told him you made. Well, you know,
not believe this, but some people lied. Who would imagine,
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and so they would have all these houses. Well why
would you do this? Because the market was going up
and up enough so you'd buy a house for four
hundred sell it in a year for five hundred minus
property taxes and transaction fees.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
You know it was working because values.
Speaker 11 (06:12):
Are just going to go up, up, up, up, until
they didn't and when they started unwinding. What happened was
these lyyre loans were a big part of the portfolio
of outstanding loans. So what they did people recognized there
was risk. That's a really risky loan. That guy's I'm
able to pay it back. So what they did is
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they bundled them up. Because the idea was if you
took one bad loan and added another bad loan and
another bad loan, if you put enough bad loans together
into a bundle, that made the bundle efficient.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
But that's not true.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
It's quite the opposite.
Speaker 11 (06:51):
It had a multiplier effect on the likelihood it would
bring the whole thing down. And I said, I'll have
to say, this stock market was up yesterday. I never
comment on the stock market on the day of because
I like to have time. In fact, I very rarely
if you notice comment on day of news at all.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Janine Piro, today I'll make an exception.
Speaker 11 (07:12):
The new interim US attorney for Washington, d C. President
was very proud of that. He likes her a lot.
I met her at mar Lago. She hangs out there
a lot. He's he's a big fan of hers. Anyway,
the stock market had been down yesterday, it shot up
because he pulled back the terraces. All that by way
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of saying, every time Trump says something and they panic,
just understand it's all a negotiation. Be calm, we are
the watchman. Okay, let's let's let's be the same.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Voice as out Michael Berry's show.
Speaker 11 (07:50):
The graduation speeches are exst It always interesting whether someone
is trying to push their own gender, whether it's a
pie in the sky optimism, and why not.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You got graduates.
Speaker 11 (08:08):
President Donald Trump used the opportunity while speaking at West
Point to set a new direction, in a new tone
for the American Army. Rush Limba always said the military's
only job was to kill people and break things. And
that's very offensive to the people who are not warriors,
but it's exactly how warriors feel. It might sound overly simplistic,
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but when it comes time to kill people and break things,
which is when we most need our military, there are
lots of people that are let into the military for
all the wrong reasons, who are not prepared to kill
people in break things, when the folks on the other
side are prepared to kill people in break things. President
Trump gave the commencement address at West Point, and he
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laid out the military's true purpose. And I'm going to
tell you, I'll guarantee you, I'll guarantee you those folks
were proud to be an American again, proud to go
into our United States Army, proud to lead our army
as officers were the graduates at West Point there.
Speaker 10 (09:17):
But under the Trump administration, those days are over. We're
getting rid of the distractions and we're focusing our military
on ours core mission, crushing America's adversaries, killing America's enemies,
and defending our great American flag like it has never
been defended before.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
The job of the.
Speaker 10 (09:42):
US Armed Forces is not to host brag shows to
transform foreign cultures, but to spread democracy to everybody around
the world at the point of a gun. The military's
job is to dominate any foe and annihilate any threat
to America anywhere, anytime, in any place. A big part
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of that job is to be respected again. And you are,
as of right now respected more.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Than any army anywhere in the world.
Speaker 10 (10:17):
And that's happening, and I can tell you you are
respected like nobody can believe.
Speaker 11 (10:24):
Then we turn to sixty Minutes Scott Pelly. Now Pelly
is one of the people who is upset because sixty
Minutes are sorry. CBS is having to fork over a
massive amount of money for interfering in the twenty twenty
four election.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
The head of CBS stepped down.
Speaker 11 (10:43):
The head of their news department step down, and Scott
Pelly is embarrassed and he's angry. And so Scott Pelly
was speaking at wake for us, and what you're going
to hear here is Scott Pelly whining he's angry.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And what he's angry about is being a journalist, being.
Speaker 11 (11:06):
A university professor, having degrees from Harvard or Yale or
one of these Columbia was supposed to make them better
than you. But there's more of you than there are
of them. And they abused their power, and they used
money from you to then turn against you and to
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support causes and candidates that you don't support with your dollars.
And now Trump came in and said, hey, guys, I'll
go in and shatter this thing. You couldn't get a
Bush family member to do that. They were as tied
into this. You couldn't get a Romney to do that.
You couldn't get Obama to do that. They were all
tied into the august nature of Harvard University, and they
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all wanted their kids to go there, they all wanted
to be associated with it. Well, Trump comes in and
goes in and speak at the University of Alabama and says,
this is the crimson that's going to be leaving the future.
And Americans roared because we're tired of the Ivy League
getting all this money, getting all this preference. And Scott
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Pelley is upset because Donald Trump is bringing shame upon
people who deserve it, and that comes at his expense
on multiple levels.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Listen to him.
Speaker 12 (12:25):
But in this moment, this moment, this morning, our sacred
rule of law is underattack. Journalism is underattack, universities are underattack,
freedom of speech is underattack, and insidious.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Fear is reaching.
Speaker 12 (12:49):
Through our schools, our businesses, our homes, and into our
private thoughts, the fear to speak.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
In America.
Speaker 12 (13:05):
Power can rewrite history with grotesque, false narratives. They can
make criminals heroes and heroes criminals. Power can change the
definition of the words we use to describe reality. Diversity
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is now described as illegal, Equity is to be shunned.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Inclusion is a dirty word.
Speaker 12 (13:35):
Yes, this is an old playbook, my friends, There is
nothing new in this.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
You know, the beauty.
Speaker 11 (13:44):
You really gotta admire what these people do. They make
what they do which is evil discrimination, they make it noble.
So then anyone who criticizes it is ignoble because what
they're doing is decent. This has been done by Marxist
throughout history. Well, let's check in.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Sin's one of the subject of speeches.
Speaker 11 (14:05):
Let's check in on Jasmine Crockett giving the commencement address
at Tugalu College.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Here's what she had to say for.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Going to be people that tell you that you don't belong,
and I am here to tell you over and.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Over and over that you absolutely belong.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
There are people that are going to tell you that
there is not a table in which there is a
seat for you. But I am here to remind you
of Montgomery and those folding chairs. Let me tell you,
did we know how to use a chair? Whether we
pulling it up? Are we doing something else with it?
Speaker 9 (14:39):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Now, let me hear. Let me to tell you.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
That I know that y'all are ready to put your
boots on the ground again.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yes, that's your cue, that's it's very out.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna dance, y'all.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
Don't judgment now because I'm feeling it. They gonna tell
you that you ain't smart as they is. They gonna
tell it to you. But let me tell you if
they don't hire you, if they don't give you their money.
Speaker 11 (15:16):
If they don't do what you want them to do,
you can either sit in a chair or you can
take the.
Speaker 9 (15:21):
Chair to they head. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 11 (15:24):
And if we got to pull out a gun, we're
gonna be We're gonna get our boots out, We're gonna
create the war.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
If we got to intimidate them vote into doing what
we want, then we gonna do it.
Speaker 11 (15:35):
What I'm saying, what I'm here to tell you, Yeah,
because now you don't got.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
A degree from a historically black college and university.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
We don't want no white people here though, because the.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Inclusions can't say something nice, you can always say it
on the Michael Ferry Show.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
That's what we're talking about. Graduation speeches. It's that season, right.
Speaker 11 (16:00):
Biden told the audience at Morehouse, a historically black college
and university, that their country didn't love them. You know,
Thomas Soul has talked a lot about this. When you
tell young black people that this country doesn't love you,
you don't make them love this country back. You instill
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in them resentment and bitterness, and young minds are easily formed,
and it's important to give them optimism rather than cynicism
and skepticism and victimhood becau It's very hard for people
once they're in that mindset.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I saw a video the other day. It was of
these kids.
Speaker 13 (16:48):
It was a.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Series of posts about Japan.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
And the people there, and it was a group of
school kids and they were walking on the sidewalk and
they were getting ready to cross the street and a
bus or a truck driver pulls up and he stops
and lets them all cross, And after they crossed, they
all stopped and waved and thanked him.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Then he moved on and they were smiling and waving
as they crossed.
Speaker 11 (17:21):
But at the end they all, once they got safely across,
stopped and waved.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
And thanked him very much.
Speaker 11 (17:28):
You can learn a lot about people by how they
act when they cross the street in front of you
and you were in a car and they've already parked
and they're going into the event. There are culturally different
ways people cross the street and their attitude about crossing
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the street. If you hold the door for somebody as
they are entering a building and you're going in before them,
and you're far enough ahead that you could just let
it go and they won't be able to get it'll
close all the way and you stand and hold the
door for them to go in. There are people who
will say, why, thank you, I appreciate that. And there
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are people who pretend they don't notice that you did that.
And then there are people who you can tell are
making a statement by not acknowledging it. I'm not saying
anyone is any You've probably had this experience, and if
you haven't, maybe you haven't. But there are people for
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whom everyone fits into one of those three categories.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Right.
Speaker 11 (18:37):
Joe Biden told the audience at Morehouse that their country
did not love them. This was the President of the
United States last year, speaking at Morehouse College, a historically
black college and university.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
You missed your high school graduation, you start a college
just as George Floyd was murdered, and there was a
recording on race. What is democracy if black matter being
killed on the street?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
What is democracy?
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Portrayal of broken promises, slowly black communities behind?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
What is democracy if you have to be.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Ten times better than anyone else to get a fair shot.
Most of all, what does it mean, as we've heard before,
to be a black man who loves his country.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Even if it doesn't love him back and equal measure.
That is how you doom young people.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
I have frequently said that much of the success I
have enjoyed in my life is because from the earliest
ages my parents and my teachers inspired me that I
had great gifts and that if I would put them
to good use, I could be somebody. I don't think
you should pat your kid on the back for everything.
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Would I have teachers who would say to me, you
made a ninety eight, but you should have made a hundred.
You made an a, but you could have done better.
You've got to push yourself harder, because what does public
school do. It compresses everybody in the middle. It tries
to get the kid at the bottom up to the middle,
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and it has no space for the kid at the top. Hey,
you're not causing any problems. Just keep doing what you're doing.
So it doesn't super serve the kid at the top.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
It doesn't.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
It's not built to It's built for the masses. This
was a mass education inculcation effort.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
We know that right.
Speaker 11 (20:38):
A Pharmacy Benefits Manager or PBM is a third party
company that manages prescription drug benefits on behalf of health
insurers employers, unions, and government programs. There are a lot
of people involved in the racket of healthcare today who
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hate their jobs, who are listening right now and going,
oh good, I'm glad we're going.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
To expose this. Let me start that over.
Speaker 11 (21:09):
A Pharmacy benefits manager or PBM is a third party
company that manages prescription drug benefits on behalf of health insurers, employers, unions,
and government programs. PBMs play a key role in how
medications are accessed, priced, and reimbursed in the US healthcare system.
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Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders, we like her signed House
Bill eleven fifty in ending the conflict of interest of
PBMs owning pharmacies. Now, what happened as a result, Well,
we'll get to that in the moment. All right, here's
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the bill she has signed.
Speaker 14 (21:58):
For far too long, drug middleman called PBMs have taken
advantage of customers and raised drug prices. Under my leadership,
Arkansas took action and imposed nearly one point five million
dollars in fines against law breaking PBMs last year. Now
we're going even further and banding PBM conflicts of interest altogether.
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This will prevent inflated drug prices, protect pharmaceutical access across
our state and help our Kansons be healthier for less money.
Some of these big businesses are worried because Arkansas is
leading the way and they don't want other states to
follow our lead. But we're not afraid to be a
conservative leader for America, and I will never be afraid
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to stand up for our seniors, our veterans, and everyone
else who relies on their local pharmacy to stay healthy.
Speaker 11 (22:50):
Now, as a result, after House Build eleven fifty in
Arkansas was signed, Forest Park Pharmacy took to TikTok with
this bit of industry news.
Speaker 15 (23:09):
FBS is moving forward with closing all locations in Arkansas
after the state banned PBMs.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
From owning pharmacies.
Speaker 15 (23:18):
They only have twenty three locations there, but it proves
where these companies make their money. Before the bill even passed,
they were running ads telling everybody that if the state
moved forward with the legislation, they were going.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
To close all their stores.
Speaker 15 (23:32):
There was never even a whisper of them considering stopping
PBM operations. They threatened that people would lose access to
care if they couldn't own pharmacies and PBMs, but when
it came down to it, they chose to be a
middleman rather than a provider that speaks volumes.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
The middleman has wrangled completely people.
Speaker 11 (23:52):
Actually, as we'll play the rest of in the next segment,
what we're experiencing here are the hidden costs in control
because he who has the gold makes the rules. That's
the golden rule. How many people can't get their medication.
How many doctors don't perform this or that procedure because
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they can't get the insurance recovered, which means the insurance
companies are like the people during the Biden administration who
were loading that the teleprompter.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
They're actually in charge show. So let's recap for a moment.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
Because my dad's eighty five, I'm fifty four, my wife's
fifty seven. You know, for many years we didn't have kids,
so we didn't really need health care, and we were
young and healthy, so we didn't need health care. Neither
one of us has a major chronic condition, so we're lucky.
But my dad does and has his entire life. And
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then my mom passed, and between her and my day,
one or the other of them was in the hospital
almost once a week for years.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It was very traumatic for me.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
I went to bed every night if I wasn't driving
to Beaumont to be there with him overnight and then
rushing back in the morning. Beaumont's a a little over
an hour drive from me. There was a lot of
windshield time at the end or beginning of a long day.
And it's traumatic, right, it's debilitated, fatiguing. Well, you really
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learn insights into things, and COVID brought that to bear
when you couldn't get ivermectin, when you couldn't get hydroxychloroq,
when when your doctor couldn't tell you to use that
because they were being pushed to write scripts. When your
doctor can't tell you how best he can heal you,
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but instead for issues of money control, hospital system can
troll is forced into giving you advice that is not
the best guidance.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
That's a problem, that's a quality of life drop.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Right.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
So in a state of Arkansas, they went after this,
they went after these PBMs prescription benefit managers and as
a result, CBS said, uh huh, we're pulling out, and
the theory goes CVS would rather write off Arkansas, not
new business there. Then other states see that CBS consented
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to this change in policy, because then Texas and New
York and California and Florida and everywhere else would say, Hey,
in Texas, you're willing to play that game. In Texas,
you're willing to be fair. So CBS said, we can't
let that happen. So CBS pulled out. It's the way
big corporations think. There is Forest Park pharmacy, an independent
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pharmacy presumably, and them talking about the fact that CBS
had twenty three pharmacies in Arkansas and they pulled out.
Speaker 15 (27:11):
FBS is moving forward with closing all locations in Arkansas
after the state banned PBMs from owning pharmacies.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They only have twenty three locations there.
Speaker 15 (27:22):
But it proves where these companies make their mind.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Let me stop you there.
Speaker 11 (27:26):
Back before big pharma started buying large amounts of ad
time on every news program, organizations like CBS did real reporting.
This was our friend Cheryl Atkinson when she was at
CBS in two thousand and six, reporting that flu deaths
among the elderly climbed didn't drop climbed after getting the
flu shot.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
It stands the reason that flu deaths among the elderly
should have taken a dramatic dip, making an X craft
like this. Instead, flue deaths among the elderly continued to climb.
Whoas yesterday, Here's what scientists have found over twenty years.
The percentage of seniors getting flu shots increased sharply, from
fifteen percent to sixty five percent. It stands to reason
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that flu deaths among the elderly should have taken a
dramatic dip, making an.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
X graph like this.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
Instead, flu deaths among the elderly continue to climb. It
was hard to believe, so were searchers at the National
Institutes of Health set out to do a study adjusting
for all kinds of factors that could be masking the
true benefits of the shots. But no matter how they
crunched the numbers, they got the same disappointing result. Flu
shots had not reduced deaths among the elderly. It's not
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what health officials hope to find. NIH wouldn't let us
interview the study's lead author, so we went to Boston
and found the only co author not employed by NIH,
doctor Tom Reikert.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
We realized that we had scendiary materials.
Speaker 13 (28:49):
Doctor Reichert says they thought their study would prove vaccinations
at helped.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
We were trying to do something mainstream, that's for sure.
We surprised, astonished.
Speaker 13 (28:58):
Did you check the data a couple of times to
make sure?
Speaker 15 (29:01):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Even more than that, we've looked at other countries now
and the same is true.
Speaker 13 (29:04):
That study soon to be published finds the same poor
results in Australia, France, Canada and the UK, and other
new research stokes the idea that decades of promoting flu
shots and seniors and the billion spent haven't had the
desired result.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The current head of National.
Speaker 13 (29:22):
Imanizations confirmed CDC is now looking at new strategies, but
stop short of calling the present policy a failure.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
There's an active dialogue into how we can do better
to prevent influenza and its complications in the elderly.
Speaker 13 (29:34):
So what's an older person to do? The CDC says
they should still get their flu shots, that it could
make flu less severe or prevent other problems not reflected
in the total numbers, but watch for CDC to likely
shift in the near future more toward protecting the elderly
in a roundabout way by vaccinating more children and others
around them. Who could give them the flu? Werlakis and
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CBS News Washington.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Did you hear what the CDC just said.
Speaker 11 (30:01):
When we give the flu they call it a flu
shot because it's not a vaccine. We give the flu vaccine.
Let's call it what they used to call it. They
don't want that because the vaccine prevents you forgetting something.
Remember when Joe Biden said that the COVID shot prevented
you from getting COVID. You can't get it, you can't
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spread it. That was a complete lie. Of course, everything
about the Biden administration was. The CDC said, if giving
the shot to old people is killing more old people
than it saves, that would assume the shot even worked.
But it's killing more people than it saves, then you
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know what we'll do. We'll start giving the shot to
everyone around the old people. Well, do you ros it's
going to kill some of those people as well. Do
you know how many people died from the COVID shot?
Do you know how many people die from the flu shot?
They don't want you to know that. A study coming
out of I think it was a University of Michigan
said the flu shot had a negative efficacy rate. More
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people die from getting the shot than are saved by
taking it. You know, we had several years ago we
had somebody that was I think they'd been at the
NIH National Institute of Help, and they explained how the
flu shot is put together. Every year, there is a
convention that's pulled together at the end of February, and
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they have to decide, as I understand it, by the
end of February, on which of three strains of the
flu it could be this year. They have to pick
one so that on March first they can begin production
of the flu shot to have it ready for the fall.
So you've got a one in three chance of even
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getting it right, but you've got one hundred percent chance
of having been exposed to a dangerous shot if you
take it. Now, who on earth would make the decision
for you to do that unless you were making billions
of dollars off selling the flu shot. Well, CVS and
Walgreens told me to come in and take it. Oh
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you mean they told you to come in the door
so they can get paid to give you the shot.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
And while you're there you.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
Might pick up some snacks and cokes and all sorts
of other stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Of course, they told you to.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
That's what got you to go into CVS and Walgreens
so they can make more money. Gas stations don't make
their money off the gas. That's to get you in
the door and buy the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Good.
Speaker 11 (32:32):
Breathe the evil of foot in this country, the evil
of foot in this country, the things that are passing,
the people that are I'm doing the right thing. I'm
taking care of myself. Bless your heart. You tried to
but evil people lied to you. You did nothing wrong
other than being the naive neighbor. You should assume you
can't trust anything these people say.
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Varry Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
There are cultural impediments to doing this work. And let's
say you work in the FBI, you know that one
of the two political parties is, let me put it nicely,
white supremacist adjacent at a minimum.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So there's a lot of people that are like, you
know what, like, let's go find the safest white boy.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
We find poor kids. You're just as bright and just
as talent as white kids.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Is that this election has proven, that this administration has
proven painfully in some ways, is that black people cannot
save this.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Country from white folks. We can't do it alone.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Right, If white folks aren't going to join in, if
white women aren't going to join in, if Latinos aren't
going to join.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
In, we can't do it alone.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
We will not back down in our pursuit of racial justice.
The antidota anti blackness is to be pro black and
we will do it unapologetically. But the United State government
owes us a debt and we need reparations.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
That are politics that says like there are superior in
fear human beings just in the way to go. And
that's the thing that white people don't trust us to
do because they are so corrupt, you know, their thinking
is so morally and spiritually bankrupted.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
First, here's what it takes for Black Jobs.
Speaker 8 (01:22):
I love his phrase black jobs. Tell us a lot
about the band and about his character.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Just three and a half years we've created over true
Minion new Black Job.
Speaker 8 (01:34):
You have a problem figuring out whether you're pre may
or Trump and you ain't black.
Speaker 9 (01:38):
And my brother, it don't come back.
Speaker 10 (01:42):
But I also was on the ticket quite honestly, you know,
because I could code talk to white guys watching football
fixing their trials.
Speaker 11 (01:49):
I've said for quite some time, and I believe this
to be true, that you don't follow the stock market
on a day to day basis. Now, financial advice will
tell you you don't fallow stock market day to day
because they don't want you pulling your money out. And
you could argue that they make money on the big
They get action off of the investment, so whether it's
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up or down, they're still getting their percentage. Now, that
depends a lot on what kind of relationship you have
and what kind of financial structure you have established, whether
they are a fiduciary as Ramone loves to say about
his guy or you know my guy who is a
fee based but anyway, it doesn't matter. I mean, technically
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his is too. But he thinks the word fiduciary is
a big word and he doesn't know what it means.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But anyway, I'll leave that. I'll leave that there for
a second.
Speaker 11 (02:42):
You would think, I think Ramone thinks that his money
manager when he goes to the doctor and you put
in occupation, says fiduciary. I think he believes that he
doesn't understand what the term actually means.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
But whatever.
Speaker 11 (02:56):
Anyway, I have long said, when you keep me on track,
that you don't watch the stock market up and up,
you know, on a given day, because too.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Many vagaries of news and.
Speaker 11 (03:11):
Happenings and rumors can affect things negatively or positively.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
That is irrational.
Speaker 11 (03:18):
Now, the stock market had seen a dip when President
Trump took over, when the tariff talk heated up bigly,
and I read a lot of things. I try to
consume opinion from across the spectrum, and most everybody who
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was not you know, deeply in Trump's corner, was saying,
these tariffs are a bad idea. Look at the stock market.
Looking at the stock market is not a good way
to measure long term economic plans.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
In fact, it's a terrible way when.
Speaker 11 (03:58):
You understand that the not the stock market is not
repeat is not a rational, practical, sophisticated determinant of whether
current economic plans are going to yield prosperity. Generally, the
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stock market can rise or fall dramatically on the basis
of a lie, on the basis of hype, on the
basis of fears never come true, all sorts of things.
It is a marketplace, and there is the idea that
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with sufficient numbers you achieve there's even an economic theory
on this, but I don't want to get too far
into this. You can achieve a sense of efficiency. Well,
this is about as rational as the idea that the
housing market bust in two thousand and eight was based
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on taking a bad loan. You got a guy that
makes fifty thousand dollars a year and he lives in Houston,
and he takes a loan on a house in Arizona
for four hundred thousand dollars, and he airbnb's the house,
or back then there was a different process. But he
gives it to somebody to rent and he makes the
minimal payment and he's counting on in a year selling
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it for five hundred, and they're called liar loans.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
He would go and take that and signed that he made, you.
Speaker 11 (05:33):
Know, two million dollars a year, and so he would
he would he would lie on his application, like like
Letitia James did in New York. But these were unverified loans,
which meant you tell them what they what you make
state because stated income. Uh, they would loan you money
based on what you told him you made. Well, you know,
not believe this, but some people lied. Who would imagine,
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and so they would have all these houses. Well why
would you do this? Because the market was going up
and up enough so you'd buy a house for four
hundred sell it in a year for five hundred minus
property taxes and transaction fees.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
You know it was working because values.
Speaker 11 (06:12):
Are just going to go up, up, up, up, until
they didn't and when they started unwinding. What happened was
these lyyre loans were a big part of the portfolio
of outstanding loans. So what they did people recognized there
was risk. That's a really risky loan. That guy's I'm
able to pay it back. So what they did is
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they bundled them up. Because the idea was if you
took one bad loan and added another bad loan and
another bad loan, if you put enough bad loans together
into a bundle, that made the bundle efficient.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
But that's not true.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
It's quite the opposite.
Speaker 11 (06:51):
It had a multiplier effect on the likelihood it would
bring the whole thing down. And I said, I'll have
to say, this stock market was up yesterday. I never
comment on the stock market on the day of because
I like to have time. In fact, I very rarely
if you notice comment on day of news at all.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Janine Piro, today I'll make an exception.
Speaker 11 (07:12):
The new interim US attorney for Washington, d C. President
was very proud of that. He likes her a lot.
I met her at mar Lago. She hangs out there
a lot. He's he's a big fan of hers. Anyway,
the stock market had been down yesterday, it shot up
because he pulled back the terraces. All that by way
(07:34):
of saying, every time Trump says something and they panic,
just understand it's all a negotiation. Be calm, we are
the watchman. Okay, let's let's let's be the same.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Voice as out Michael Berry's show.
Speaker 11 (07:50):
The graduation speeches are exst It always interesting whether someone
is trying to push their own gender, whether it's a
pie in the sky optimism, and why not.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
You got graduates.
Speaker 11 (08:08):
President Donald Trump used the opportunity while speaking at West
Point to set a new direction, in a new tone
for the American Army. Rush Limba always said the military's
only job was to kill people and break things. And
that's very offensive to the people who are not warriors,
but it's exactly how warriors feel. It might sound overly simplistic,
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but when it comes time to kill people and break things,
which is when we most need our military, there are
lots of people that are let into the military for
all the wrong reasons, who are not prepared to kill
people in break things, when the folks on the other
side are prepared to kill people in break things. President
Trump gave the commencement address at West Point, and he
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laid out the military's true purpose. And I'm going to
tell you, I'll guarantee you, I'll guarantee you those folks
were proud to be an American again, proud to go
into our United States Army, proud to lead our army
as officers were the graduates at West Point there.
Speaker 10 (09:17):
But under the Trump administration, those days are over. We're
getting rid of the distractions and we're focusing our military
on ours core mission, crushing America's adversaries, killing America's enemies,
and defending our great American flag like it has never
been defended before.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
The job of the.
Speaker 10 (09:42):
US Armed Forces is not to host brag shows to
transform foreign cultures, but to spread democracy to everybody around
the world at the point of a gun. The military's
job is to dominate any foe and annihilate any threat
to America anywhere, anytime, in any place. A big part
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of that job is to be respected again. And you are,
as of right now respected more.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Than any army anywhere in the world.
Speaker 10 (10:17):
And that's happening, and I can tell you you are
respected like nobody can believe.
Speaker 11 (10:24):
Then we turn to sixty Minutes Scott Pelly. Now Pelly
is one of the people who is upset because sixty
Minutes are sorry. CBS is having to fork over a
massive amount of money for interfering in the twenty twenty
four election.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
The head of CBS stepped down.
Speaker 11 (10:43):
The head of their news department step down, and Scott
Pelly is embarrassed and he's angry. And so Scott Pelly
was speaking at wake for us, and what you're going
to hear here is Scott Pelly whining he's angry.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
And what he's angry about is being a journalist, being.
Speaker 11 (11:06):
A university professor, having degrees from Harvard or Yale or
one of these Columbia was supposed to make them better
than you. But there's more of you than there are
of them. And they abused their power, and they used
money from you to then turn against you and to
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support causes and candidates that you don't support with your dollars.
And now Trump came in and said, hey, guys, I'll
go in and shatter this thing. You couldn't get a
Bush family member to do that. They were as tied
into this. You couldn't get a Romney to do that.
You couldn't get Obama to do that. They were all
tied into the august nature of Harvard University, and they
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all wanted their kids to go there, they all wanted
to be associated with it. Well, Trump comes in and
goes in and speak at the University of Alabama and says,
this is the crimson that's going to be leaving the future.
And Americans roared because we're tired of the Ivy League
getting all this money, getting all this preference. And Scott
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Pelley is upset because Donald Trump is bringing shame upon
people who deserve it, and that comes at his expense
on multiple levels.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Listen to him.
Speaker 12 (12:25):
But in this moment, this moment, this morning, our sacred
rule of law is underattack. Journalism is underattack, universities are underattack,
freedom of speech is underattack, and insidious.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Fear is reaching.
Speaker 12 (12:49):
Through our schools, our businesses, our homes, and into our
private thoughts, the fear to speak.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
In America.
Speaker 12 (13:05):
Power can rewrite history with grotesque, false narratives. They can
make criminals heroes and heroes criminals. Power can change the
definition of the words we use to describe reality. Diversity
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is now described as illegal, Equity is to be shunned.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Inclusion is a dirty word.
Speaker 12 (13:35):
Yes, this is an old playbook, my friends, There is
nothing new in this.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
You know, the beauty.
Speaker 11 (13:44):
You really gotta admire what these people do. They make
what they do which is evil discrimination, they make it noble.
So then anyone who criticizes it is ignoble because what
they're doing is decent. This has been done by Marxist
throughout history. Well, let's check in.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Sin's one of the subject of speeches.
Speaker 11 (14:05):
Let's check in on Jasmine Crockett giving the commencement address
at Tugalu College.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Here's what she had to say for.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Going to be people that tell you that you don't belong,
and I am here to tell you over and.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Over and over that you absolutely belong.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
There are people that are going to tell you that
there is not a table in which there is a
seat for you. But I am here to remind you
of Montgomery and those folding chairs. Let me tell you,
did we know how to use a chair? Whether we
pulling it up? Are we doing something else with it?
Speaker 9 (14:39):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Now, let me hear. Let me to tell you.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
That I know that y'all are ready to put your
boots on the ground again.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yes, that's your cue, that's it's very out.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna dance, y'all.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
Don't judgment now because I'm feeling it. They gonna tell
you that you ain't smart as they is. They gonna
tell it to you. But let me tell you if
they don't hire you, if they don't give you their money.
Speaker 11 (15:16):
If they don't do what you want them to do,
you can either sit in a chair or you can
take the.
Speaker 9 (15:21):
Chair to they head. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 11 (15:24):
And if we got to pull out a gun, we're
gonna be We're gonna get our boots out, We're gonna
create the war.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
If we got to intimidate them vote into doing what
we want, then we gonna do it.
Speaker 11 (15:35):
What I'm saying, what I'm here to tell you, Yeah,
because now you don't got.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
A degree from a historically black college and university.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
We don't want no white people here though, because the.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Inclusions can't say something nice, you can always say it
on the Michael Ferry Show.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
That's what we're talking about. Graduation speeches. It's that season, right.
Speaker 11 (16:00):
Biden told the audience at Morehouse, a historically black college
and university, that their country didn't love them. You know,
Thomas Soul has talked a lot about this. When you
tell young black people that this country doesn't love you,
you don't make them love this country back. You instill
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in them resentment and bitterness, and young minds are easily formed,
and it's important to give them optimism rather than cynicism
and skepticism and victimhood becau It's very hard for people
once they're in that mindset.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I saw a video the other day. It was of
these kids.
Speaker 13 (16:48):
It was a.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Series of posts about Japan.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
And the people there, and it was a group of
school kids and they were walking on the sidewalk and
they were getting ready to cross the street and a
bus or a truck driver pulls up and he stops
and lets them all cross, And after they crossed, they
all stopped and waved and thanked him.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Then he moved on and they were smiling and waving
as they crossed.
Speaker 11 (17:21):
But at the end they all, once they got safely across,
stopped and waved.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
And thanked him very much.
Speaker 11 (17:28):
You can learn a lot about people by how they
act when they cross the street in front of you
and you were in a car and they've already parked
and they're going into the event. There are culturally different
ways people cross the street and their attitude about crossing
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the street. If you hold the door for somebody as
they are entering a building and you're going in before them,
and you're far enough ahead that you could just let
it go and they won't be able to get it'll
close all the way and you stand and hold the
door for them to go in. There are people who
will say, why, thank you, I appreciate that. And there
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are people who pretend they don't notice that you did that.
And then there are people who you can tell are
making a statement by not acknowledging it. I'm not saying
anyone is any You've probably had this experience, and if
you haven't, maybe you haven't. But there are people for
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whom everyone fits into one of those three categories.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Right.
Speaker 11 (18:37):
Joe Biden told the audience at Morehouse that their country
did not love them. This was the President of the
United States last year, speaking at Morehouse College, a historically
black college and university.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
You missed your high school graduation, you start a college
just as George Floyd was murdered, and there was a
recording on race. What is democracy if black matter being
killed on the street?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
What is democracy?
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Portrayal of broken promises, slowly black communities behind?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
What is democracy if you have to be.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Ten times better than anyone else to get a fair shot.
Most of all, what does it mean, as we've heard before,
to be a black man who loves his country.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Even if it doesn't love him back and equal measure.
That is how you doom young people.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
I have frequently said that much of the success I
have enjoyed in my life is because from the earliest
ages my parents and my teachers inspired me that I
had great gifts and that if I would put them
to good use, I could be somebody. I don't think
you should pat your kid on the back for everything.
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Would I have teachers who would say to me, you
made a ninety eight, but you should have made a hundred.
You made an a, but you could have done better.
You've got to push yourself harder, because what does public
school do. It compresses everybody in the middle. It tries
to get the kid at the bottom up to the middle,
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and it has no space for the kid at the top. Hey,
you're not causing any problems. Just keep doing what you're doing.
So it doesn't super serve the kid at the top.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
It doesn't.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
It's not built to It's built for the masses. This
was a mass education inculcation effort.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
We know that right.
Speaker 11 (20:38):
A Pharmacy Benefits Manager or PBM is a third party
company that manages prescription drug benefits on behalf of health
insurers employers, unions, and government programs. There are a lot
of people involved in the racket of healthcare today who
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hate their jobs, who are listening right now and going,
oh good, I'm glad we're going.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
To expose this. Let me start that over.
Speaker 11 (21:09):
A Pharmacy benefits manager or PBM is a third party
company that manages prescription drug benefits on behalf of health insurers, employers, unions,
and government programs. PBMs play a key role in how
medications are accessed, priced, and reimbursed in the US healthcare system.
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Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders, we like her signed House
Bill eleven fifty in ending the conflict of interest of
PBMs owning pharmacies. Now, what happened as a result, Well,
we'll get to that in the moment. All right, here's
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the bill she has signed.
Speaker 14 (21:58):
For far too long, drug middleman called PBMs have taken
advantage of customers and raised drug prices. Under my leadership,
Arkansas took action and imposed nearly one point five million
dollars in fines against law breaking PBMs last year. Now
we're going even further and banding PBM conflicts of interest altogether.
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This will prevent inflated drug prices, protect pharmaceutical access across
our state and help our Kansons be healthier for less money.
Some of these big businesses are worried because Arkansas is
leading the way and they don't want other states to
follow our lead. But we're not afraid to be a
conservative leader for America, and I will never be afraid
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to stand up for our seniors, our veterans, and everyone
else who relies on their local pharmacy to stay healthy.
Speaker 11 (22:50):
Now, as a result, after House Build eleven fifty in
Arkansas was signed, Forest Park Pharmacy took to TikTok with
this bit of industry news.
Speaker 15 (23:09):
FBS is moving forward with closing all locations in Arkansas
after the state banned PBMs.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
From owning pharmacies.
Speaker 15 (23:18):
They only have twenty three locations there, but it proves
where these companies make their money. Before the bill even passed,
they were running ads telling everybody that if the state
moved forward with the legislation, they were going.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
To close all their stores.
Speaker 15 (23:32):
There was never even a whisper of them considering stopping
PBM operations. They threatened that people would lose access to
care if they couldn't own pharmacies and PBMs, but when
it came down to it, they chose to be a
middleman rather than a provider that speaks volumes.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
The middleman has wrangled completely people.
Speaker 11 (23:52):
Actually, as we'll play the rest of in the next segment,
what we're experiencing here are the hidden costs in control
because he who has the gold makes the rules. That's
the golden rule. How many people can't get their medication.
How many doctors don't perform this or that procedure because
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they can't get the insurance recovered, which means the insurance
companies are like the people during the Biden administration who
were loading that the teleprompter.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
They're actually in charge show. So let's recap for a moment.
Speaker 11 (24:34):
Because my dad's eighty five, I'm fifty four, my wife's
fifty seven. You know, for many years we didn't have kids,
so we didn't really need health care, and we were
young and healthy, so we didn't need health care. Neither
one of us has a major chronic condition, so we're lucky.
But my dad does and has his entire life. And
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then my mom passed, and between her and my day,
one or the other of them was in the hospital
almost once a week for years.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
It was very traumatic for me.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
I went to bed every night if I wasn't driving
to Beaumont to be there with him overnight and then
rushing back in the morning. Beaumont's a a little over
an hour drive from me. There was a lot of
windshield time at the end or beginning of a long day.
And it's traumatic, right, it's debilitated, fatiguing. Well, you really
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learn insights into things, and COVID brought that to bear
when you couldn't get ivermectin, when you couldn't get hydroxychloroq,
when when your doctor couldn't tell you to use that
because they were being pushed to write scripts. When your
doctor can't tell you how best he can heal you,
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but instead for issues of money control, hospital system can
troll is forced into giving you advice that is not
the best guidance.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
That's a problem, that's a quality of life drop.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Right.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
So in a state of Arkansas, they went after this,
they went after these PBMs prescription benefit managers and as
a result, CBS said, uh huh, we're pulling out, and
the theory goes CVS would rather write off Arkansas, not
new business there. Then other states see that CBS consented
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to this change in policy, because then Texas and New
York and California and Florida and everywhere else would say, Hey,
in Texas, you're willing to play that game. In Texas,
you're willing to be fair. So CBS said, we can't
let that happen. So CBS pulled out. It's the way
big corporations think. There is Forest Park pharmacy, an independent
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pharmacy presumably, and them talking about the fact that CBS
had twenty three pharmacies in Arkansas and they pulled out.
Speaker 15 (27:11):
FBS is moving forward with closing all locations in Arkansas
after the state banned PBMs from owning pharmacies.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They only have twenty three locations there.
Speaker 15 (27:22):
But it proves where these companies make their mind.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Let me stop you there.
Speaker 11 (27:26):
Back before big pharma started buying large amounts of ad
time on every news program, organizations like CBS did real reporting.
This was our friend Cheryl Atkinson when she was at
CBS in two thousand and six, reporting that flu deaths
among the elderly climbed didn't drop climbed after getting the
flu shot.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
It stands the reason that flu deaths among the elderly
should have taken a dramatic dip, making an X craft
like this. Instead, flue deaths among the elderly continued to climb.
Whoas yesterday, Here's what scientists have found over twenty years.
The percentage of seniors getting flu shots increased sharply, from
fifteen percent to sixty five percent. It stands to reason
(28:08):
that flu deaths among the elderly should have taken a
dramatic dip, making an.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
X graph like this.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
Instead, flu deaths among the elderly continue to climb. It
was hard to believe, so were searchers at the National
Institutes of Health set out to do a study adjusting
for all kinds of factors that could be masking the
true benefits of the shots. But no matter how they
crunched the numbers, they got the same disappointing result. Flu
shots had not reduced deaths among the elderly. It's not
(28:35):
what health officials hope to find. NIH wouldn't let us
interview the study's lead author, so we went to Boston
and found the only co author not employed by NIH,
doctor Tom Reikert.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
We realized that we had scendiary materials.
Speaker 13 (28:49):
Doctor Reichert says they thought their study would prove vaccinations
at helped.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
We were trying to do something mainstream, that's for sure.
We surprised, astonished.
Speaker 13 (28:58):
Did you check the data a couple of times to
make sure?
Speaker 15 (29:01):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Even more than that, we've looked at other countries now
and the same is true.
Speaker 13 (29:04):
That study soon to be published finds the same poor
results in Australia, France, Canada and the UK, and other
new research stokes the idea that decades of promoting flu
shots and seniors and the billion spent haven't had the
desired result.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The current head of National.
Speaker 13 (29:22):
Imanizations confirmed CDC is now looking at new strategies, but
stop short of calling the present policy a failure.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
There's an active dialogue into how we can do better
to prevent influenza and its complications in the elderly.
Speaker 13 (29:34):
So what's an older person to do? The CDC says
they should still get their flu shots, that it could
make flu less severe or prevent other problems not reflected
in the total numbers, but watch for CDC to likely
shift in the near future more toward protecting the elderly
in a roundabout way by vaccinating more children and others
around them. Who could give them the flu? Werlakis and
(29:55):
CBS News Washington.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Did you hear what the CDC just said.
Speaker 11 (30:01):
When we give the flu they call it a flu
shot because it's not a vaccine. We give the flu vaccine.
Let's call it what they used to call it. They
don't want that because the vaccine prevents you forgetting something.
Remember when Joe Biden said that the COVID shot prevented
you from getting COVID. You can't get it, you can't
(30:23):
spread it. That was a complete lie. Of course, everything
about the Biden administration was. The CDC said, if giving
the shot to old people is killing more old people
than it saves, that would assume the shot even worked.
But it's killing more people than it saves, then you
(30:45):
know what we'll do. We'll start giving the shot to
everyone around the old people. Well, do you ros it's
going to kill some of those people as well. Do
you know how many people died from the COVID shot?
Do you know how many people die from the flu shot?
They don't want you to know that. A study coming
out of I think it was a University of Michigan
said the flu shot had a negative efficacy rate. More
(31:08):
people die from getting the shot than are saved by
taking it. You know, we had several years ago we
had somebody that was I think they'd been at the
NIH National Institute of Help, and they explained how the
flu shot is put together. Every year, there is a
convention that's pulled together at the end of February, and
(31:30):
they have to decide, as I understand it, by the
end of February, on which of three strains of the
flu it could be this year. They have to pick
one so that on March first they can begin production
of the flu shot to have it ready for the fall.
So you've got a one in three chance of even
(31:50):
getting it right, but you've got one hundred percent chance
of having been exposed to a dangerous shot if you
take it. Now, who on earth would make the decision
for you to do that unless you were making billions
of dollars off selling the flu shot. Well, CVS and
Walgreens told me to come in and take it. Oh
(32:11):
you mean they told you to come in the door
so they can get paid to give you the shot.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
And while you're there you.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
Might pick up some snacks and cokes and all sorts
of other stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Of course, they told you to.
Speaker 11 (32:21):
That's what got you to go into CVS and Walgreens
so they can make more money. Gas stations don't make
their money off the gas. That's to get you in
the door and buy the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Good.
Speaker 11 (32:32):
Breathe the evil of foot in this country, the evil
of foot in this country, the things that are passing,
the people that are I'm doing the right thing. I'm
taking care of myself. Bless your heart. You tried to
but evil people lied to you. You did nothing wrong
other than being the naive neighbor. You should assume you
can't trust anything these people say.
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