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The US is the first time in the history of
the world where a government was organized with a constitution
laying out the rules that the individual was supreme dominant,
and that is what led to the US becoming the
greatest country ever because it unleashed people to be the
best they could be, unlike it had ever happened. That's
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American exceptionalism.
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Our resolve is unbroken and our purpose is unchanged to
delivery government that serves the American.
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People better than ever before. To win with every single facet.
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We're going to win so much. You may even get
tired of winning. And you say, please, please, it's too
much winning.
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We can't take.
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It anymore, mister President, it's too much, and I'll say, no.
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It isn't.
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We have to keep winning.
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We have to win more.
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We're gonna win more.
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We're gonna win.
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So much as a tall crowd city building rocks stronger
than oceans would swept God blissed and teeming with people
of all kinds living in harmony and peace. A city
with cree courts that hung with commerce and creativity, and if.
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There had to be city walls. The walls had.
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Doors, and the doors were open to anyone with the
will and the heart to get it.
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That's how I saw it and see it still.
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And we will restore and renovate our nations once great cities,
making them safe, clean and beautiful again, and that includes
our nation's capital.
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They would ever get together again.
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Under my plan, income as will skyrocket, inflation will vanish completely,
jobs will come roaring back, and the class will prosper.
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Like never ever before. And We're going to do it
very rapidly.
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I will bring back the American dream. Your expectations are
not big enough, not big enough. It is time to
start expecting and demanding the best leadership in the world.
Leadership that is bold, dynamic, relentless, and fearless.
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We can do that.
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We are Americans' ambition is our heritage.
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Greatness is our birthright.
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With great humility, I am asking you to be excited
about the future of our country.
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Be excited.
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Be excited.
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So the top news story remains Israel and Iran.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
I have.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Received a number of messages from listeners asking for my
opinion or offering theirs. A number of folks in my
personal life, saying, so do you want to join the
bombing in Iran or not, to which I answer, it's
a very complicated matter. Now we live in an era
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where we can't even watch a news program without having
a scroll at the bottom and details on the right
and something else and breaking news alert. And I understand
we live in an instant gratification world, but the world
is more complex than that. And so as I try
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to explain, you can have a bunch of people pounding
on the table saying that we have to protect Israel
or we have to wipe out Iran, or those people
have a nuclear weapon, or if they had, why don't
you want to stop there from having a nuclear weapon?
And assuming as fact things that are not certain, and
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that becomes a very complicated matter. It's complicated to determine
what we do because you should consider every bit of information.
So people will tell what they got nukes or they're
close to having nukes. How do you know that? Do
you ever stop the question where the information you quote
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as fact comes from? Because I had people tell me
that the COVID shot was a vaccine and it'll save
your life. My brother died from it. I've had a
lot of lies told to me by people I was
supposed to trust because they knew so much more than me,
because they were the director of the NIH or they
were a public health experts. And who am I? I don't
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have a medical degree. Who's the fool? Now? I don't
trust the generals. Let's tell you right now. I don't
trust the generals. I don't trust the deep state. I
think Israel has and all always has had a desire
to protect their nation as they should. You ever looked
at them out They're a tiny little nation surrounded by
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a bunch of unstable Islamist jew hating America, hating violent
people or at least governments. Yeah, you've got to be
pretty creative when you live in that world. You've got
to be able to pull off the greatest perhaps in history,
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the greatest trojan horse of all time. My awe for
what Israel has pulled off in the last couple of years,
starting with the cell phones blowing them up, then the
walkie talkies blowing them up. Then my favorite is the
is the pagers, because you emasculate some dudes and leave
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them alive, blow some hands off. You've got people walking
around and around I guess he was one of the
bad guys that must be as blog guy. He has
his right hand and in a bandage. They had Masad agents,
They had entire military installations that they had set up
inside Iran. Hell, I can't keep my wife's birthday party
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a surprise with twenty people knowing about it. Think about
pulling these things off. I'm not skirting the issue. I'm
saying they're complicated issues. Look, I like to watch bombs
drop as much as the next guy. I have no
affinity or affection for Iran and what they've done. They're evil,
no question, But I am mindful that we need every
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bit of information on the table to make good decisions.
And a lot of people who do want us to
not only support Israel but be personally involved, like Lindsay
Grahamnesty are having wargasms in hopes this will happen, and
they are not going to tell you the truth. Those
people never find a reason for us not to be
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in a war. Ever. They wanted boots in the ground
in Ukraine. Somehow we survive that. They want boots in
the ground everywhere all the time. It's their own form
of porn, and I don't think that honors our troops
to do that, and I don't think our military, I
think that is that. To quote Benjamin Franklin, the ways
to reduce a great empire to a small one you
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do not constantly engage in wars and end up stronger.
As a result, it weakens nature, your nation. You lose
your men, you lose your treasure. Folks who love war
see war everywhere. If your a hammer, everything looks like
a nail. I'm saying, let's go into this with eyes
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wide open and stop consulting people who simply raise questions.
The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry Show, almost everyone lives
in a bubble. Do my best to go beyond my
bubble and have a better sense of what people think
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across the country. Of my closest inner circle of friends,
three out.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Of four.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Believe this is Israel's war and we should stay out now.
I have one friend who's Jewish who asked me a
couple of nights ago. He said, explain to me why
so many people on the extreme right in America seem
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to hate Jews in Israel. And I said, I don't
think that's the right approach. I think they feel that
Jews in Israel have too much influence over American foreign policy,
and I think the immediate reaction is to say, well,
then you hate Jews in Israel. This is the same
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mindset at that says I think we're spending too much
on welfare and we need election integrity. You hate blacks,
I think we need to keep boys out of the
women's locker room. You hate trainees. I think we need
to close our borders. You hate Mexicans. This is not
the way serious people conduct conversations. I also made the
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point it is not just the extreme right, some of
whom don't want Israel or Jews to be making all policies.
It's also the extreme left. There is a theory that
if you go far enough round the circle, you end
up back in a similar position, and the far left
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and the far right end up in authoritarian positions that
are not so far apart. But I'm getting ahead of myself.
I said that I think three out of four of
good friends of mine take the position that the United
States needs to say the heck out of it. We
don't need another Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. I would assume
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that's three out of four of my guy friends all right,
that is not what the public feels. Eighty three of
percent of Republicans oppose Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. Now you
can oppose them obtaining nuclear weapons, but say I don't
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think they have nuclear weapons. I don't think they're going
to obtain nuclear weapons, so let's stay out of it.
That's part of it, right, But interestingly, it's not just
eighty three percent of Republicans, because Republicans tend to be
more hawkish than Democrats, who tend to be more dubbish.
Seventy nine percent of Democrats, almost the same number oppose
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Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. That is as close together and
as big a percentage of Republicans and Democrats together as
you will find on anything short of is the sky blue.
And I'm not sure you get that degree of unanimity.
Harry Inton was CNN with the polling results.
Speaker 9 (11:07):
Well, I feel like there's more support for Donald Trump's
positions than is comically acknowledged opposer Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
I mean, look at this, seventy nine percent of adults
agree on that they agree with Donald Trump and Ron
cannot get a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Eighty three percent of Republicans.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
Seventy nine percent of independence seventy nine percent of Democrats.
When you get seventy nine percent of Democrats and eighty
three percent of Republicans agreeing on anything, you know that
that position is the very clear majority in this country.
And so the American public is with Donald Trump. They
definitely opposed in Ron getting nuclear weapons.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
So this is a nuance here.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
But you know Trump and Natanyajoe both arguing that Ron
is close to being capable of making a nuclear weapon.
If that is the case, what is the feeling of
Americans as to whether the United States should get involved
in this conflict?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Right?
Speaker 9 (11:50):
If you buy Donald Trump's theory of the case. And
I think that's important to note, this is polling far
from April for rands trying to make a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Look at this overall, you get the slight plurality, I
mean it's within the margin.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
Remember, but the slight plurality of Americans actually favor US
air strikes compared to forty seven percent of posing it.
Now here's the other nugget I'll note. Right, there's been
a lot of talk online and on social media and
in podcasts of a divide within the Republican ranks. But
here on this question, if Iran's trying to make a
nuclear weapon, look at that sixty nine percent of Republicans,
the clear, vast majority of Republicans favor US air strikes
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on Iran on their nuclear facilities. But there is this
substantial minority twenty seven percent, who oppose such an idea.
So it's not surprising you're hearing those other voices. Besides
Donald Trump out there, there are plenty of them in
the Republican ranks who oppose striking the US striking Iran
if they're trying to make a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
But the clear majority, the clear majority.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
Of Republicans are with Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
If in fact Iran is trying.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
To make nuclear weapons, They do, in fact potentially favor
US air strike.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So the key question becomes this, do we believe that
Iran is sufficiently close close to having nuclear capability that
we almost have no choice but to take them out.
Here's what we do know American support. Is there broad
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support to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear nation? Now
do you believe they are that close to becoming a
nuclear nation? That's really the breakdown. But President Trump, who
is very good at this, President Trump fashioned his disagreement
with Tucker Carlson has been a big supporter of his
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by asking this question, do well. First of all, Tucker
Carlson has been criticizing that politicians who claim to be
America first cannot now credibly say they had nothing to
do with it. Our country is in deep This is
about the Israeli attacks on Iran. President Trump was asked
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about that criticism, and much like how he lashed out
of Elon, he said.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
This, he criticized, and you're saying that you're complicit in
the war.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Let him go get a television network and say it
so that people listen.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
President Trump asked Tucker if he was okay with Iran
having a nuclear weapon. This is very very effective strategic MESSAGINGABO.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's interesting because I did ask Tucker. I said, well,
are you okay with nuclear weapons being in the hands
of Iran? And he sort of didn't like that. He
didn't want to really, but he sort of didn't like that.
And I said, well, if it's if it's okay with you,
then you and I do have a difference. But it's
really not okay with him. Therefore, you may have to fight,
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and maybe he led, and maybe he lend very quickly.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
But there's no way that you can.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Allow, whether you have to fight or not, you can
allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon because the entire
world will blow up.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I'm not going to let that happen.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The President believes they're close to a nuclear weapon. I
don't trust all the people around him. They may they
may be telling the truth this time. I'm just skeptical.
That's all. President Trump and Tucker spoke on the phone.
Tucker called to apologize, and here's what the President said
after that.
Speaker 11 (15:17):
How do you see the Tucker girls sending Senator Ted
Cruz interview.
Speaker 12 (15:20):
It seems like this issue on whether or not the
United States should strike is kind of dividing a lot
of your supporters.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Uh no, my supporters if for me, my supporters are
America first and make America great again. My supporters don't
want to see her have a new new weapon. Tucker's
a nice guy. He called and apologized at the end
of the day because he thought he said thanks well
and too strong, and I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz
is a nice guy. I mean, he's been with me
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for a whole time. And I'd say once the race
was over, he's been with me.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Somebody dee strikes you. You can't shoot at Michael Rho
Yesterday in the second hour, we were talking about China's
interference in the twenty twenty election, and Cash Pateel has
reportedly submitted to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley for
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his review documents showing Chinese Communist Party producing counterfeit US
driver's licenses as part of an effort to influence the
twenty twenty election, which was stolen from Donald Trump. That way,
they would be able through fraudulent mail in ballots to
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elect Joe Biden, which we know they did. Now I
need to play two bits of audio as part of
this series of discussions here because they relate to this.
You'll remember that Hillary Clinton on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow
openly said the Russians are helping Trump, so we need
the Chinese to interfere in our elections. The Russians weren't helping,
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that was the Russia hoax. But for her to say
this openly, I think it's very clear that the Democrats
did do exactly what she says here.
Speaker 13 (17:11):
You know, the only other adversary of ours who's anywhere
near as good as the Russians is China. So why
should Russia have all the fun? And since Russia is
clearly backing Republicans, why don't we ask China.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
To back us?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I here by tonight ask China.
Speaker 13 (17:31):
That's right, And not only that, China, if you're listening,
why don't you get Trump's tax returns? I'm sure our
media would richly reward you.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And then I played you investigated this was yesterday, I
played you, investigative journalist John Solomon telling Donald Trump Junior
that the Chinese saw how easy it would be to
influence our borders, the.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Most sairy thing if you're a Republican.
Speaker 11 (17:53):
Democrats Secretary of State, election.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Commissioner, county commissioner.
Speaker 11 (17:57):
China saw our mail in voting system as an extreme,
vulnerable option to go attack America.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
That's one thing that you can draw from these documents.
Speaker 11 (18:06):
They saw how easy it would be to change the outcome,
or attempt to change the outcome of an election by
using mail in ballots, not machines, not other things. They
saw the weakness in the system right in the middle
of the COVID nineteen pandemic that should alarm us all.
Anyone in a position of authority election.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Should read this document.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Now.
Speaker 14 (18:23):
I'm going to just read one fair game, read all
of the paragraphs that are relevant, because.
Speaker 11 (18:26):
I think the first time as the first time I'm
seeing the.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Text of this.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So it's is breaking news, guys.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So I think it's important.
Speaker 14 (18:31):
I think this is the kind of stuff we got
to make sure that other people share because the mainstream
media will pretend this thing never happened.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
They'll sweep it under the rug. They'll oh, no, one new,
oh yeah, usual BSk.
Speaker 11 (18:41):
The report says that this source, there was a collaborative
source that have been in the system for less than
a year, attained the information from a from an identified
sub source who claim they attained the information directly from
Communist government officials.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Insight China. In late August twenty twenty, the government.
Speaker 11 (18:58):
The Chinese government had produced a large amount of fraudulent
United States driver's licenses that were secretly exported to the
United States. The fraudulent driver licenses would allow tens of thousands,
there's your answer, more than twenty thousands, tens of thousands
of Chinese students and immigrants sympathetic to the Chinese Communist
Party to vote for US presidential candidate Joe Biden just fight.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Struct page together despite not being able to vote in
the United States. China had collected private.
Speaker 11 (19:27):
US user ID for millions of TikTok accounts to include name,
ID and address, which will allow the Chinese government to
use real US person's information to create the fraudulent driver's licenses.
The fraudulent driver licenses were to include true ID numbers
and true addresses of US citizens.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
Making them difficult to detect. That's what came into the
FBI in August and spaus.
Speaker 14 (19:49):
China has been stealing all that data from Americans forever,
so they probably have a perfectly good database of people
who were probably going to be no shows but had
real ID, change the name, change the photo.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
There you go. You can go buy your life to
the United States.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It all right, So you remember that. Next and that's
for twenty twenty. Next, which I didn't get to. Then,
FBI Director Christopher Ray was asked at a congressional hearing
in September of twenty twenty about possible election interference in
the upcoming election. This was September. This is less than
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two months before the election. Listen to his answer, now,
knowing what you know that China was planning to interfere, Listen.
Speaker 15 (20:36):
To this intelligence communities consensus is that Russia continues to
try to influence our elections, primarily through what we would
call malign foreign influence, as opposed to what we saw
in twenty sixteen, where there was also an effort to
target election infrastructure, you know, cyber targeting. We have not
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seen that second part yet this year or this cycle,
but we certainly have seen very active, very active efforts
by the Russians to influence our election in twenty twenty
through what I would call more than malign foreign influence
side of things, social media, use of proxies, state media,
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online journals, etc. An effort to both sew divisiveness and discord.
And I think the intelligence community has assessed this publicly
to primarily to denigrate Vice President Biden, and what the
Russians see is kind of an anti Russian establishment.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's essentially what we're seeing in twenty twenty. Then in
December of that year, so the month after the election,
General Mike Flynn, you remember what they did to Mike
Flynn told Lou Dobbs May he recipees that there was
direct evidence of foreign interference in the election.
Speaker 16 (22:00):
Have to look at everything that we're doing, and we
have to you know, everybody's going to take a deep
breath and back up and say, Okay, with all of
the egregious behavior that we have seen on our election security,
we cannot stand for foreign influence. Which we have direct
evidence of foreign influence. We also have evidence now from
other countries, other foreign partners who have evidence in fact
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they were watching the attacks on our election system, our
election process on the third of November, and they are
willing to provide that directly to the president. So we
now have that evidence and we receive that today. It's
very very important. So there are foreign partners and allies
that are willing to help us, but this foreign influence
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against our election security and into this solar winds system
is really really dangerous and more has to be done.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Trump's former attorney. This is a flashback bit of audio.
These are all flashback. Trump's former attorney, Sidney Powell, told
American thought leaders that there were hundreds of thousands of
fraudulent ballots. Okay, we're gonna said I said that wrong.
There were hundreds of thousands. I was trying to really
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draw emphasis. There were hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots
imported from China.
Speaker 12 (23:23):
They often ran the same ballots through the same fraudulent
creating machines, which did absolutely no good whatsoever. They did
not look at each ballot and compare the signatures. If
we could even get one hundred thousand ballots of the
last hundred thousand ballots run in Georgia, for example, we
could show by instant mechanical analysis the difference in the
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ballots and the ink. We know that there were hundreds
of thousands of fraudulent ballots imported into the country, likely
from China. We have video of some coming across the
border from Mexico. There's other information of ballots being shipped
from one state to another. In fact, there was a
postal service driver I think, who was sent from New
York to Pennsylvania in the middle of the night with
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a truckload of ballots that was then used to quote
backfill end to quote the vote count. It's absolutely absurd.
We have more evidence coming in today of a massive
load of ballots I think, from Arizona to Georgia.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So they had.
Speaker 12 (24:26):
These warehouses of counterfeit ballots in different parts of the
country apparently, and then shipped them in the middle of
the night as needed to backfill in the states where
President Trump's voters poured out in such great number.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Now, Sydney Powell, former lawyer to Donald Trump, mentioned the
US Postal Service whistleblower remember this, who drove mail in
ballots from New York to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania being a
swing date. His name is Jesse Morgan, and he would
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go on to tell his story to lou Dobbs. He
said he thought he was doing something to help the
presidential election.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
How it all happened? Was it just one day?
Speaker 17 (25:15):
I went in, I uh, the normal process. I walked up,
gave my my slip to the expediter. She was going
to go cut off the seal, and as she was
doing so, she made the comment that I won't be
taking mail and balanced back and I was like, oh,
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I said, that's pretty.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Cool, you know. I'm like, you know, cool.
Speaker 17 (25:40):
And then I went back and then she made the
comment again about taking the mail and ballots back, and
I said okay, And then.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
I went to my trailer watched them mounload.
Speaker 17 (25:54):
And then they brought up the the the gay lords,
and then they had the ballots in it, and I
watched them be loaded onto the trailer.
Speaker 18 (26:08):
Those are boxes of those are boxes containing what turned
out to be ballots gaylords.
Speaker 17 (26:15):
Yeah, So they had the gaylords and then inside each
gay lord.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Was like a tote.
Speaker 17 (26:20):
It was totes and they were stacked on top of
each other. And then each tote had envelopes with the
ballots in it.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
And then as they were bringing them in, some of.
Speaker 17 (26:31):
The the ballots they kind of came out of how
they had them stacked in there, and you could see
them laid on top and as they I wasn't looking
for addresses, be honest.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I thought I was doing something.
Speaker 17 (26:48):
To help out the presidential election.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
You know. That's how it came across it.
Speaker 17 (26:52):
I'm like, oh, swiki, this is this isn't this is awesome?
You know, like cool, do something to help out here,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So Jesse Morgan, that US Postal Service whistleblower who said
he drove the ballots, he's not claiming it happened, he's
claiming he did it. I mean that if that doesn't
speak to credibility, I don't know what does. He told
lou Dobbs that they loaded palettes of mail in ballots
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onto his truck. Now you might be thinking, well, this
is a big country. How much does that matter. Remember
each state is its own election and its winner. Take
all the things they did. They didn't cheat in every state.
They didn't cheat in California they didn't need to. They
didn't cheat in New York they didn't need to. They
didn't cheat in Illinois they didn't need to. They cheated
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in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina where they had the
states where the election was up for grabs, the battleground
states as we call them. Anyway, here's what he said.
Speaker 18 (28:08):
You saw that they were ballots. Did you see all
of the boxers and their contents?
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Did you see that they were.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
In fact filled out?
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Yes, yes, sir, I saw I saw them all loaded.
I saw. Now, look this is how it is.
Speaker 17 (28:24):
Is like I couldn't see every single ballot, Okay, I
wasn't even really paying attention to it.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
What I saw was how they had them in the toads. Okay.
Speaker 17 (28:39):
And then as some as like as the as the
pallets were being the gaylords are being bumped around. The
toads were being bumped around. Some envelopes kind of came
out of how they had them lined in there, and
they're laying on top now probably seeing and say five
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or six and the one power. Then three pounds later
there might be twenty of them that I saw. Then
ten pounds down, there's twenty more, you know, like all
the way up to they.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Put the last box in.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Once Jesse Morgan, the US Postal Service whistleblower, drop the
load of ballots in Lancaster. Remember he says he drove
from New York down to Lancaster, dropped these ballots. The
supervisor would not give him the proper paperwork to show
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that he had delivered his load. This is important. This
means it's a coordinated effort. If he pulls up and
he drops all the ballots, assuming he's speaking the truth,
and I believe he is, they won't give him a
bill of lading or whatever the term is in the
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US post Office. They won't give him a receipt saying yep,
you've done your job. Because this job is off the books.
This job is criminal. It's the biggest crime perpetrated.
Speaker 18 (30:15):
We're back now with whistleblower Jesse Morgan, a US Postal
Service subcontractor who drove completed election ballots in boxes from
New York to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Jesse, I want to turn to the route.
Speaker 18 (30:30):
That you took, and if we could put up that
map going from Bethpage, New York to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which
was to be your destination. But when you got to Harrisburg,
they wouldn't check you in, they wouldn't give you a
slip for delivery, and instead they directed you to Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 17 (30:55):
Is that correct, Yes, sir, that is correct, though it
was absolutely I've been I've been hauling mail now for
about sixteen months, and sixteen months, I have never never
had this happen to me before. I was made to
wait in the yard and I sat there and I
waited roughly like about six hours until I went in
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and I was like, what's going on here, guys, Like
what's the hold up? You know, like I'm getting I
was pretty pretty upset, and my brother just moved up
from Texas, but I want to go hang out with
him and I finally they couldn't give me an answer,
(31:44):
and then finally, like a transportation supervisor came down and
told me to basically leave, leave and take the loads
in Lancaster. Which never, never, I've never talked to that man,
never talked to a transportation supervisor. The whole time I've
been doing this, I've strictly dealt with the expeditors. They
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are the ones that would I would see when I
came in. I checked in, and they're the ones I
checked out with. And he told me to leave to
go to Leicester.
Speaker 18 (32:15):
Now, this is the night of the twenty first, of
our troube for two weeks before the election. You're carrying
twenty four boxes, yes, tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of
thousands of completed ballots by all appearances. You get to
now Lancaster. Did you ever get the paperwork, the proper
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paperwork for running that delivery.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
No.
Speaker 17 (32:42):
And that's the thing is that, once again, I never
leave a place without paperwork. And the man refused to
give me this paperwork.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
He refused to get me.
Speaker 17 (32:56):
The slips, and his reasoning was, I'm not getting unloaded
it there. And then I said, well, I said, well,
let me get a late slip at least so that
way people know that I've been here.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
And he refused to give me that.
Speaker 17 (33:12):
I don't have the monkey pop, can't bend over to them,
wear my socks.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
I think Michael Berry Rush, Michael jo
It's that time time time, time, luck and load. The
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So the top news story remains Israel and Iran.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
I have.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Received a number of messages from listeners asking for my
opinion or offering theirs. A number of folks in my
personal life, saying, so do you want to join the
bombing in Iran or not, to which I answer, it's
a very complicated matter. Now we live in an era
(03:17):
where we can't even watch a news program without having
a scroll at the bottom and details on the right
and something else and breaking news alert. And I understand
we live in an instant gratification world, but the world
is more complex than that. And so as I try
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to explain, you can have a bunch of people pounding
on the table saying that we have to protect Israel
or we have to wipe out Iran, or those people
have a nuclear weapon, or if they had, why don't
you want to stop there from having a nuclear weapon?
And assuming as fact things that are not certain, and
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that becomes a very complicated matter. It's complicated to determine
what we do because you should consider every bit of information.
So people will tell what they got nukes or they're
close to having nukes. How do you know that? Do
you ever stop the question where the information you quote
(04:27):
as fact comes from? Because I had people tell me
that the COVID shot was a vaccine and it'll save
your life. My brother died from it. I've had a
lot of lies told to me by people I was
supposed to trust because they knew so much more than me,
because they were the director of the NIH or they
were a public health experts. And who am I? I don't
(04:48):
have a medical degree. Who's the fool? Now? I don't
trust the generals. Let's tell you right now. I don't
trust the generals. I don't trust the deep state. I
think Israel has and all always has had a desire
to protect their nation as they should. You ever looked
at them out They're a tiny little nation surrounded by
(05:08):
a bunch of unstable Islamist jew hating America, hating violent
people or at least governments. Yeah, you've got to be
pretty creative when you live in that world. You've got
to be able to pull off the greatest perhaps in history,
(05:32):
the greatest trojan horse of all time. My awe for
what Israel has pulled off in the last couple of years,
starting with the cell phones blowing them up, then the
walkie talkies blowing them up. Then my favorite is the
is the pagers, because you emasculate some dudes and leave
(05:52):
them alive, blow some hands off. You've got people walking
around and around I guess he was one of the
bad guys that must be as blog guy. He has
his right hand and in a bandage. They had Masad agents,
They had entire military installations that they had set up
inside Iran. Hell, I can't keep my wife's birthday party
(06:13):
a surprise with twenty people knowing about it. Think about
pulling these things off. I'm not skirting the issue. I'm
saying they're complicated issues. Look, I like to watch bombs
drop as much as the next guy. I have no
affinity or affection for Iran and what they've done. They're evil,
no question, But I am mindful that we need every
(06:38):
bit of information on the table to make good decisions.
And a lot of people who do want us to
not only support Israel but be personally involved, like Lindsay
Grahamnesty are having wargasms in hopes this will happen, and
they are not going to tell you the truth. Those
people never find a reason for us not to be
(07:00):
in a war. Ever. They wanted boots in the ground
in Ukraine. Somehow we survive that. They want boots in
the ground everywhere all the time. It's their own form
of porn, and I don't think that honors our troops
to do that, and I don't think our military, I
think that is that. To quote Benjamin Franklin, the ways
to reduce a great empire to a small one you
(07:24):
do not constantly engage in wars and end up stronger.
As a result, it weakens nature, your nation. You lose
your men, you lose your treasure. Folks who love war
see war everywhere. If your a hammer, everything looks like
a nail. I'm saying, let's go into this with eyes
(07:45):
wide open and stop consulting people who simply raise questions.
The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry Show, almost everyone lives
in a bubble. Do my best to go beyond my
bubble and have a better sense of what people think
(08:08):
across the country. Of my closest inner circle of friends,
three out.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Of four.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Believe this is Israel's war and we should stay out now.
I have one friend who's Jewish who asked me a
couple of nights ago. He said, explain to me why
so many people on the extreme right in America seem
(08:38):
to hate Jews in Israel. And I said, I don't
think that's the right approach. I think they feel that
Jews in Israel have too much influence over American foreign policy,
and I think the immediate reaction is to say, well,
then you hate Jews in Israel. This is the same
(08:59):
mindset at that says I think we're spending too much
on welfare and we need election integrity. You hate blacks,
I think we need to keep boys out of the
women's locker room. You hate trainees. I think we need
to close our borders. You hate Mexicans. This is not
the way serious people conduct conversations. I also made the
(09:21):
point it is not just the extreme right, some of
whom don't want Israel or Jews to be making all policies.
It's also the extreme left. There is a theory that
if you go far enough round the circle, you end
up back in a similar position, and the far left
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and the far right end up in authoritarian positions that
are not so far apart. But I'm getting ahead of myself.
I said that I think three out of four of
good friends of mine take the position that the United
States needs to say the heck out of it. We
don't need another Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. I would assume
(10:04):
that's three out of four of my guy friends all right,
that is not what the public feels. Eighty three of
percent of Republicans oppose Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. Now you
can oppose them obtaining nuclear weapons, but say I don't
(10:27):
think they have nuclear weapons. I don't think they're going
to obtain nuclear weapons, so let's stay out of it.
That's part of it, right, But interestingly, it's not just
eighty three percent of Republicans, because Republicans tend to be
more hawkish than Democrats, who tend to be more dubbish.
Seventy nine percent of Democrats, almost the same number oppose
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Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. That is as close together and
as big a percentage of Republicans and Democrats together as
you will find on anything short of is the sky blue.
And I'm not sure you get that degree of unanimity.
Harry Inton was CNN with the polling results.
Speaker 9 (11:07):
Well, I feel like there's more support for Donald Trump's
positions than is comically acknowledged opposer Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
I mean, look at this, seventy nine percent of adults
agree on that they agree with Donald Trump and Ron
cannot get a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Eighty three percent of Republicans.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
Seventy nine percent of independence seventy nine percent of Democrats.
When you get seventy nine percent of Democrats and eighty
three percent of Republicans agreeing on anything, you know that
that position is the very clear majority in this country.
And so the American public is with Donald Trump. They
definitely opposed in Ron getting nuclear weapons.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
So this is a nuance here.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
But you know Trump and Natanyajoe both arguing that Ron
is close to being capable of making a nuclear weapon.
If that is the case, what is the feeling of
Americans as to whether the United States should get involved
in this conflict?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Right?
Speaker 9 (11:50):
If you buy Donald Trump's theory of the case. And
I think that's important to note, this is polling far
from April for rands trying to make a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Look at this overall, you get the slight plurality, I
mean it's within the margin.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
Remember, but the slight plurality of Americans actually favor US
air strikes compared to forty seven percent of posing it.
Now here's the other nugget I'll note. Right, there's been
a lot of talk online and on social media and
in podcasts of a divide within the Republican ranks. But
here on this question, if Iran's trying to make a
nuclear weapon, look at that sixty nine percent of Republicans,
the clear, vast majority of Republicans favor US air strikes
(12:23):
on Iran on their nuclear facilities. But there is this
substantial minority twenty seven percent, who oppose such an idea.
So it's not surprising you're hearing those other voices. Besides
Donald Trump out there, there are plenty of them in
the Republican ranks who oppose striking the US striking Iran
if they're trying to make a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
But the clear majority, the clear majority.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
Of Republicans are with Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
If in fact Iran is trying.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
To make nuclear weapons, They do, in fact potentially favor
US air strike.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So the key question becomes this, do we believe that
Iran is sufficiently close close to having nuclear capability that
we almost have no choice but to take them out.
Here's what we do know American support. Is there broad
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support to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear nation? Now
do you believe they are that close to becoming a
nuclear nation? That's really the breakdown. But President Trump, who
is very good at this, President Trump fashioned his disagreement
with Tucker Carlson has been a big supporter of his
(13:37):
by asking this question, do well. First of all, Tucker
Carlson has been criticizing that politicians who claim to be
America first cannot now credibly say they had nothing to
do with it. Our country is in deep This is
about the Israeli attacks on Iran. President Trump was asked
(13:58):
about that criticism, and much like how he lashed out
of Elon, he said.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
This, he criticized, and you're saying that you're complicit in
the war.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Let him go get a television network and say it
so that people listen.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
President Trump asked Tucker if he was okay with Iran
having a nuclear weapon. This is very very effective strategic MESSAGINGABO.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's interesting because I did ask Tucker. I said, well,
are you okay with nuclear weapons being in the hands
of Iran? And he sort of didn't like that. He
didn't want to really, but he sort of didn't like that.
And I said, well, if it's if it's okay with you,
then you and I do have a difference. But it's
really not okay with him. Therefore, you may have to fight,
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and maybe he led, and maybe he lend very quickly.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
But there's no way that you can.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Allow, whether you have to fight or not, you can
allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon because the entire
world will blow up.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I'm not going to let that happen.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The President believes they're close to a nuclear weapon. I
don't trust all the people around him. They may they
may be telling the truth this time. I'm just skeptical.
That's all. President Trump and Tucker spoke on the phone.
Tucker called to apologize, and here's what the President said
after that.
Speaker 11 (15:17):
How do you see the Tucker girls sending Senator Ted
Cruz interview.
Speaker 12 (15:20):
It seems like this issue on whether or not the
United States should strike is kind of dividing a lot
of your supporters.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Uh no, my supporters if for me, my supporters are
America first and make America great again. My supporters don't
want to see her have a new new weapon. Tucker's
a nice guy. He called and apologized at the end
of the day because he thought he said thanks well
and too strong, and I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz
is a nice guy. I mean, he's been with me
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for a whole time. And I'd say once the race
was over, he's been with me.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Somebody dee strikes you. You can't shoot at Michael Rho
Yesterday in the second hour, we were talking about China's
interference in the twenty twenty election, and Cash Pateel has
reportedly submitted to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley for
(16:13):
his review documents showing Chinese Communist Party producing counterfeit US
driver's licenses as part of an effort to influence the
twenty twenty election, which was stolen from Donald Trump. That way,
they would be able through fraudulent mail in ballots to
(16:35):
elect Joe Biden, which we know they did. Now I
need to play two bits of audio as part of
this series of discussions here because they relate to this.
You'll remember that Hillary Clinton on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow
openly said the Russians are helping Trump, so we need
the Chinese to interfere in our elections. The Russians weren't helping,
(17:00):
that was the Russia hoax. But for her to say
this openly, I think it's very clear that the Democrats
did do exactly what she says here.
Speaker 13 (17:11):
You know, the only other adversary of ours who's anywhere
near as good as the Russians is China. So why
should Russia have all the fun? And since Russia is
clearly backing Republicans, why don't we ask China.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
To back us?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I here by tonight ask China.
Speaker 13 (17:31):
That's right, And not only that, China, if you're listening,
why don't you get Trump's tax returns? I'm sure our
media would richly reward you.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
And then I played you investigated this was yesterday, I
played you, investigative journalist John Solomon telling Donald Trump Junior
that the Chinese saw how easy it would be to
influence our borders, the.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Most sairy thing if you're a Republican.
Speaker 11 (17:53):
Democrats Secretary of State, election.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Commissioner, county commissioner.
Speaker 11 (17:57):
China saw our mail in voting system as an extreme,
vulnerable option to go attack America.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
That's one thing that you can draw from these documents.
Speaker 11 (18:06):
They saw how easy it would be to change the outcome,
or attempt to change the outcome of an election by
using mail in ballots, not machines, not other things. They
saw the weakness in the system right in the middle
of the COVID nineteen pandemic that should alarm us all.
Anyone in a position of authority election.
Speaker 8 (18:21):
Should read this document.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Now.
Speaker 14 (18:23):
I'm going to just read one fair game, read all
of the paragraphs that are relevant, because.
Speaker 11 (18:26):
I think the first time as the first time I'm
seeing the.
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Text of this.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So it's is breaking news, guys.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
So I think it's important.
Speaker 14 (18:31):
I think this is the kind of stuff we got
to make sure that other people share because the mainstream
media will pretend this thing never happened.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
They'll sweep it under the rug. They'll oh, no, one new,
oh yeah, usual BSk.
Speaker 11 (18:41):
The report says that this source, there was a collaborative
source that have been in the system for less than
a year, attained the information from a from an identified
sub source who claim they attained the information directly from
Communist government officials.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Insight China. In late August twenty twenty, the government.
Speaker 11 (18:58):
The Chinese government had produced a large amount of fraudulent
United States driver's licenses that were secretly exported to the
United States. The fraudulent driver licenses would allow tens of thousands,
there's your answer, more than twenty thousands, tens of thousands
of Chinese students and immigrants sympathetic to the Chinese Communist
Party to vote for US presidential candidate Joe Biden just fight.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Struct page together despite not being able to vote in
the United States. China had collected private.
Speaker 11 (19:27):
US user ID for millions of TikTok accounts to include name,
ID and address, which will allow the Chinese government to
use real US person's information to create the fraudulent driver's licenses.
The fraudulent driver licenses were to include true ID numbers
and true addresses of US citizens.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
Making them difficult to detect. That's what came into the
FBI in August and spaus.
Speaker 14 (19:49):
China has been stealing all that data from Americans forever,
so they probably have a perfectly good database of people
who were probably going to be no shows but had
real ID, change the name, change the photo.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
There you go. You can go buy your life to
the United States.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It all right, So you remember that. Next and that's
for twenty twenty. Next, which I didn't get to. Then,
FBI Director Christopher Ray was asked at a congressional hearing
in September of twenty twenty about possible election interference in
the upcoming election. This was September. This is less than
(20:24):
two months before the election. Listen to his answer, now,
knowing what you know that China was planning to interfere, Listen.
Speaker 15 (20:36):
To this intelligence communities consensus is that Russia continues to
try to influence our elections, primarily through what we would
call malign foreign influence, as opposed to what we saw
in twenty sixteen, where there was also an effort to
target election infrastructure, you know, cyber targeting. We have not
(20:58):
seen that second part yet this year or this cycle,
but we certainly have seen very active, very active efforts
by the Russians to influence our election in twenty twenty
through what I would call more than malign foreign influence
side of things, social media, use of proxies, state media,
(21:19):
online journals, etc. An effort to both sew divisiveness and discord.
And I think the intelligence community has assessed this publicly
to primarily to denigrate Vice President Biden, and what the
Russians see is kind of an anti Russian establishment.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's essentially what we're seeing in twenty twenty. Then in
December of that year, so the month after the election,
General Mike Flynn, you remember what they did to Mike
Flynn told Lou Dobbs May he recipees that there was
direct evidence of foreign interference in the election.
Speaker 16 (22:00):
Have to look at everything that we're doing, and we
have to you know, everybody's going to take a deep
breath and back up and say, Okay, with all of
the egregious behavior that we have seen on our election security,
we cannot stand for foreign influence. Which we have direct
evidence of foreign influence. We also have evidence now from
other countries, other foreign partners who have evidence in fact
(22:25):
they were watching the attacks on our election system, our
election process on the third of November, and they are
willing to provide that directly to the president. So we
now have that evidence and we receive that today. It's
very very important. So there are foreign partners and allies
that are willing to help us, but this foreign influence
(22:46):
against our election security and into this solar winds system
is really really dangerous and more has to be done.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Trump's former attorney. This is a flashback bit of audio.
These are all flashback. Trump's former attorney, Sidney Powell, told
American thought leaders that there were hundreds of thousands of
fraudulent ballots. Okay, we're gonna said I said that wrong.
There were hundreds of thousands. I was trying to really
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draw emphasis. There were hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots
imported from China.
Speaker 12 (23:23):
They often ran the same ballots through the same fraudulent
creating machines, which did absolutely no good whatsoever. They did
not look at each ballot and compare the signatures. If
we could even get one hundred thousand ballots of the
last hundred thousand ballots run in Georgia, for example, we
could show by instant mechanical analysis the difference in the
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ballots and the ink. We know that there were hundreds
of thousands of fraudulent ballots imported into the country, likely
from China. We have video of some coming across the
border from Mexico. There's other information of ballots being shipped
from one state to another. In fact, there was a
postal service driver I think, who was sent from New
York to Pennsylvania in the middle of the night with
(24:10):
a truckload of ballots that was then used to quote
backfill end to quote the vote count. It's absolutely absurd.
We have more evidence coming in today of a massive
load of ballots I think, from Arizona to Georgia.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So they had.
Speaker 12 (24:26):
These warehouses of counterfeit ballots in different parts of the
country apparently, and then shipped them in the middle of
the night as needed to backfill in the states where
President Trump's voters poured out in such great number.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Now, Sydney Powell, former lawyer to Donald Trump, mentioned the
US Postal Service whistleblower remember this, who drove mail in
ballots from New York to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania being a
swing date. His name is Jesse Morgan, and he would
(25:05):
go on to tell his story to lou Dobbs. He
said he thought he was doing something to help the
presidential election.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
How it all happened? Was it just one day?
Speaker 17 (25:15):
I went in, I uh, the normal process. I walked up,
gave my my slip to the expediter. She was going
to go cut off the seal, and as she was
doing so, she made the comment that I won't be
taking mail and balanced back and I was like, oh,
(25:36):
I said, that's pretty.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Cool, you know. I'm like, you know, cool.
Speaker 17 (25:40):
And then I went back and then she made the
comment again about taking the mail and ballots back, and
I said okay, And then.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
I went to my trailer watched them mounload.
Speaker 17 (25:54):
And then they brought up the the the gay lords,
and then they had the ballots in it, and I
watched them be loaded onto the trailer.
Speaker 18 (26:08):
Those are boxes of those are boxes containing what turned
out to be ballots gaylords.
Speaker 17 (26:15):
Yeah, So they had the gaylords and then inside each
gay lord.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Was like a tote.
Speaker 17 (26:20):
It was totes and they were stacked on top of
each other. And then each tote had envelopes with the
ballots in it.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
And then as they were bringing them in, some of.
Speaker 17 (26:31):
The the ballots they kind of came out of how
they had them stacked in there, and you could see
them laid on top and as they I wasn't looking
for addresses, be honest.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I thought I was doing something.
Speaker 17 (26:48):
To help out the presidential election.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
You know. That's how it came across it.
Speaker 17 (26:52):
I'm like, oh, swiki, this is this isn't this is awesome?
You know, like cool, do something to help out here,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
So Jesse Morgan, that US Postal Service whistleblower who said
he drove the ballots, he's not claiming it happened, he's
claiming he did it. I mean that if that doesn't
speak to credibility, I don't know what does. He told
lou Dobbs that they loaded palettes of mail in ballots
(27:28):
onto his truck. Now you might be thinking, well, this
is a big country. How much does that matter. Remember
each state is its own election and its winner. Take
all the things they did. They didn't cheat in every state.
They didn't cheat in California they didn't need to. They
didn't cheat in New York they didn't need to. They
didn't cheat in Illinois they didn't need to. They cheated
(27:52):
in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina where they had the
states where the election was up for grabs, the battleground
states as we call them. Anyway, here's what he said.
Speaker 18 (28:08):
You saw that they were ballots. Did you see all
of the boxers and their contents?
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Did you see that they were.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
In fact filled out?
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Yes, yes, sir, I saw I saw them all loaded.
I saw. Now, look this is how it is.
Speaker 17 (28:24):
Is like I couldn't see every single ballot, Okay, I
wasn't even really paying attention to it.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
What I saw was how they had them in the toads. Okay.
Speaker 17 (28:39):
And then as some as like as the as the
pallets were being the gaylords are being bumped around. The
toads were being bumped around. Some envelopes kind of came
out of how they had them lined in there, and
they're laying on top now probably seeing and say five
(29:03):
or six and the one power. Then three pounds later
there might be twenty of them that I saw. Then
ten pounds down, there's twenty more, you know, like all
the way up to they.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Put the last box in.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Once Jesse Morgan, the US Postal Service whistleblower, drop the
load of ballots in Lancaster. Remember he says he drove
from New York down to Lancaster, dropped these ballots. The
supervisor would not give him the proper paperwork to show
(29:39):
that he had delivered his load. This is important. This
means it's a coordinated effort. If he pulls up and
he drops all the ballots, assuming he's speaking the truth,
and I believe he is, they won't give him a
bill of lading or whatever the term is in the
(30:00):
US post Office. They won't give him a receipt saying yep,
you've done your job. Because this job is off the books.
This job is criminal. It's the biggest crime perpetrated.
Speaker 18 (30:15):
We're back now with whistleblower Jesse Morgan, a US Postal
Service subcontractor who drove completed election ballots in boxes from
New York to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Jesse, I want to turn to the route.
Speaker 18 (30:30):
That you took, and if we could put up that
map going from Bethpage, New York to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which
was to be your destination. But when you got to Harrisburg,
they wouldn't check you in, they wouldn't give you a
slip for delivery, and instead they directed you to Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 17 (30:55):
Is that correct, Yes, sir, that is correct, though it
was absolutely I've been I've been hauling mail now for
about sixteen months, and sixteen months, I have never never
had this happen to me before. I was made to
wait in the yard and I sat there and I
waited roughly like about six hours until I went in
(31:23):
and I was like, what's going on here, guys, Like
what's the hold up? You know, like I'm getting I
was pretty pretty upset, and my brother just moved up
from Texas, but I want to go hang out with
him and I finally they couldn't give me an answer,
(31:44):
and then finally, like a transportation supervisor came down and
told me to basically leave, leave and take the loads
in Lancaster. Which never, never, I've never talked to that man,
never talked to a transportation supervisor. The whole time I've
been doing this, I've strictly dealt with the expeditors. They
(32:05):
are the ones that would I would see when I
came in. I checked in, and they're the ones I
checked out with. And he told me to leave to
go to Leicester.
Speaker 18 (32:15):
Now, this is the night of the twenty first, of
our troube for two weeks before the election. You're carrying
twenty four boxes, yes, tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of
thousands of completed ballots by all appearances. You get to
now Lancaster. Did you ever get the paperwork, the proper
(32:37):
paperwork for running that delivery.
Speaker 12 (32:41):
No.
Speaker 17 (32:42):
And that's the thing is that, once again, I never
leave a place without paperwork. And the man refused to
give me this paperwork.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
He refused to get me.
Speaker 17 (32:56):
The slips, and his reasoning was, I'm not getting unloaded
it there. And then I said, well, I said, well,
let me get a late slip at least so that
way people know that I've been here.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
And he refused to give me that.
Speaker 17 (33:12):
I don't have the monkey pop, can't bend over to them,
wear my socks.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
I think Michael Berry Rush, Michael jo
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