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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time time, time, time.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Luck.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
And look, the Michael Verry Show is on the air.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Charlie from BlackBerrys Mother, I can feel a good one
coming on.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It's the Michael Berry Show. Oh, yes, it is, Yes,
it is.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I am so very hopeful right now. I'm not a
cynic at heart. I am cynical toward people trying to
sell me something because I want to know what they're
going to gain.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm all for a win win.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I'm all for the belief that if you've got bake
goods and I've got ten dollars and I would rather
those bake goods than my.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Ten dollars, and you want my ten.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Dollars more than your baked goods, it can be a
win win, right, And I'm believe in that. But I
don't think that just because somebody's telling me I got
to have baked goods when I'm not even hungry, it's
a good thing. Nevertheless, I keep a very positive attitude,
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a very positive attitude, and I still hold out hope
for the people of this country, and many don't. Many
will say whether idiots, there are plenty of idiots. I agree,
plenty of idiots, and it's easy like with the Prodigal Son,
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to see the one and overlook the ninety nine. But
you're a good person. Let's start there. Spouse is a
good person, your parents are good people, your kids are
good people. People you work with are good people. The
people around you are good people. Right, can we agree
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to all those things? Well, let's start there. What's to
say that what shows on the television is reality. I
think your reality and I'm reality, and I think we
should be willing to fight. Our president has shown he's
willing to fight. That's what he said when he was shot.
(02:34):
We've been playing a song by John conn that the
president seems to really enjoy, called Fighter. But we decided
it need a little extra something, so we added a
little Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And we think it's better than taste some time. Oh
that's good, that's good.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
So she just started by saying she's going to do this,
she's going to do that, She's going to do all
these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
She's been there for three and a half years. They've
had three and a half years to fix the border.
They've had three and a half years to create jobs
and all the things we talked about.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now.
Go down to that beautiful white House.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the
things you want to do.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But you haven't done it, and you won't do it.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
I'm faery, mold and harder.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I was born to the doore. I'm making run.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Don't prove that.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
Count is yeah, don't catching that last bill you order wed.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm fired.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
These encounters with death have not broken my will.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
They have really given me a much bigger and stronger mission.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
They've only hardened my resolve to use.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
My time on earth to make America great again, for
all Americans, to put America.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
First to go. Shot said all you got to come
fiery road, and had.
Speaker 9 (04:26):
I was going to.
Speaker 8 (04:27):
Be able to die.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm making ride.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Don't pull web founds.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You don't guess you a man?
Speaker 10 (04:36):
Last been a hard way time.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, keep me down.
Speaker 11 (04:52):
We didn't know, but they know.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
I rebuilt our entire military. She gave a lot of
it away to the Taliban.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
She gave it to Afghanistan.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
What these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Of all is allowing millions of.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
People to come into our country. Many of them are criminals,
and they're destroying our country. The worst president, the worst
vice president in the history of our country.
Speaker 12 (05:28):
Ladies, make yourself useful and grab your fellow or girlfriend
a beer, pop and tope right around the corner.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
On the Friday drive home edition of The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 13 (05:45):
After the debate, they told me what to say. I
want your old rats.
Speaker 11 (06:00):
Big nasible states at least about the way.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Hey, they told me what to say.
Speaker 13 (06:07):
Hey, blue power.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Truss, blue Musson, Hey sins partly cute and go feel
this so cool man, run outside this trucking up real nice.
Doesn't tell you play lay play, Make lady Denis to
take take day day j I'll pretend this was a stage,
stay stage, snape stage.
Speaker 11 (06:31):
I'll ask yourself, I'll take it off.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Get a heard, big Gray, don't trying to see a
big bet, big, big big.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Did you think I was saying? Saint Saint's staying sing?
Speaker 11 (06:43):
I'll ask yourself, I'll take it off its feed. But
my cat tells you be tea. Don't the next means
much to me except for killing babies.
Speaker 13 (06:57):
Got an abe full of troubles.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I'll track with my jack yours and I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The who is y'all.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Immigrants are losing driving like them losing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That dem gig.
Speaker 13 (07:16):
Fuck you say, say it's so fun.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
When it's pulling out bad right, because I'm Taylor ran
to play play play play plays it take take a
j I'll pretend it was a stage stay stage stage shage.
Speaker 11 (07:31):
I'm not saying off, I'll take it off.
Speaker 14 (07:34):
Calabery is trying.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
To re pay great big ring.
Speaker 13 (07:37):
I'm trying to take the big pet beeg big did you.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Think of this saying saying things saying see, I'm not
saying he's off.
Speaker 11 (07:45):
I'll take it off.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I take it off, I take.
Speaker 10 (07:49):
I take it off.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I take it off, I take it off, I take
it off.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I take it up. I take it off.
Speaker 11 (07:59):
Hey, Hey, Just like well, Kamala is covering for Joe
Biden's noddle decline, which is completely clear to the world.
They were also setting up this endorsement with.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Me pax Man, I'm just girl friends.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
She's ginus in that shop.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
I co.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Over there with.
Speaker 10 (08:18):
The corn block you're making.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
You'll never swim make make make America.
Speaker 13 (08:30):
Say hey, days, stay stay stayed stage say why must
he off?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I'll take it off?
Speaker 13 (08:38):
Cal bat Big brazy to big Bee, big big dang.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Do you think of you say saying saint say see
why must he off?
Speaker 13 (08:48):
I'll take it off, fun, I tak it.
Speaker 14 (08:51):
I took it off.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I dig you, I take it off.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I take it off, I take it off, I take it.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Taylor Swift officially endorsed Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
The reason she gave she was gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
For her endorsement was Tim Waltz's LGBTQ policies.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know tampon, Tim Well.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Megan Kelly was participating in a Tucker Carlson line when
she laid into Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
We love Megan Kelly On this show.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
She says the reason she's voting for Kamala Harris is
because of Tim Walls's LGBTQ stance. Do you know what
Tim Walls has done on the LGBTQ front, Tim wall
let me tell you what's gonna happen. Okay, Well, here's
what's gonna happen. A little girl sitting in Wisconsin who's
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maybe on the spectrum, maybe has acne, maybe is a
little heavy.
Speaker 10 (09:58):
Set, maybe feels up sex. The parents are going to divorce.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
Something like that is going to find herself down a
rabbit hole on Reddit, and her parents aren't going to
know because they're going to divorce and they're not focused
on her right now. And she's going to spend hour
after hour on that thing. And Reddit's going to tell
her she's actually a boy, and she's going to get sucked.
Speaker 10 (10:16):
Into this gender cult. And she's going to.
Speaker 9 (10:18):
Say, Mom and Dad, I want puberty blockers into cross
sex hormones, which will sterilize her and deprive her of
all sexual pleasure for.
Speaker 10 (10:25):
The rest of her life. And they're going to say, no,
you're a girl.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
And she's going to say, but I want to I
want top surgery, this benign thing, this double misteck to
me where I'll have tubes coming out of me and
I'll never breastfeed a child.
Speaker 10 (10:36):
I want that too, because I'm a boy. And they're
going to say no.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
And she's going to go to a judge in Minnesota,
and because of Tim Walls, the court will take custody
of her, use the medicaid funds in Minnesota to provide
her all of those things, chop off her breasts, sterilize.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Her with the puberty blockers under the cross sex hormones.
Speaker 9 (10:57):
And when this girl inevitably comes to the conclude that
she didn't want any of this, that it only added
to her problems, which were the divorce and the acne
and the puberty, and not any trends issue.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
Who's she going to go to them? This is all
because of Tim Walls.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
That's what Minnesota is doing right now to little girls
and boys, taking custody away from the parents so that
they can have these procedures without any loving parent there
to help. And that's what Taylor Swift just endorsed for
your children.
Speaker 10 (11:26):
So screw you, Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Now, I'm sure Taylor Swift speaks her own mind and
I wouldn't presume to suggest otherwise, but a lot of
other people with keen insight do. They're suggesting that Taylor
Swift is an asset of the left. I don't know
how those rumors got started. Listen to this.
Speaker 15 (11:51):
I had the chance to purchase my music outright. My
entire catalog was sold to Scooter Braun's IFICA Holdings in
a deal that I'm told was funded by the Soros family,
twenty three Capital, and the Carlile Group.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Oh the people who own her Masters, which is equivalent
to owning her That's how she makes her money. George Soros,
the Carlisle Group, Scooter Braun, George Soros. You know George Soros.
Why did he buy Taylor Swift's Masters and why since
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then has she endorsed a bunch of liberal candidates that
he also supports. Well, we know Taylor Swift is for sale,
and now we know what the price tag was. We
played an audio clip yesterday and I was short on time,
and I sandwiched it into a segment. I want you
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to hear it again because it's very important.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Robert F.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Kennedy Junior, whose dad and uncle were killed by the
deep state. He's talking about the fact that is trying
to drain the swamp. If people need to understand how
big and complex and difficult this is. This is David
and Goliath. Trump's not the powerful one here. The swamp
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is all powerful. The swamp protects itself.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Everyone has heard President Trump's signature phrase.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Drain the swamp. In Washington, DC.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
His instinct is hot on the problem is that in
Washington it's not just about a few corrupt individuals. It's
a whole crooked system. It's the federal agencies as the lobbyists.
It's the think tanks and research organizations. It's the university
and the academic groups and the media, and it's the
corporations that have captured these agencies and turned them into.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
The sock puppets.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
But the industries they're supposed to regulate lives. Spent forty
years douing almost all of these agencies in many of
the industries, and I know the names in many of
these agencies of the bad actors who need to be
looped out. I understand the perverse incentives that put agency
capture on steroids. I know how this system is supposed
to work protect the public interests and how it actually
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works to protect the mercantile interests of the regulated industries.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
That have captured.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And I know how to fix it. When you sue
an agency, you get a PhD in corporate capture and
how to unravel it. And that's exactly what I'm going
to do with Donald Trump's backing. Let me tell you
what we're going to do. We're going to appoint honest
officials who don't have conflicts of interest. We're going to
listen to whistleblowers and act on their revelations. We're going
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to slam shut the revolving door that sends industry executives
and lobbyists in and out of government.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We're going to fire.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Anyone who portrays the public trust or wise to the public.
And we're going to prohibit federal agencies from using their
powers to harass political opponents. That's what it means to
drain the swamp. One of my priorities in Washington will
be to make sure President Trump can follow through on
his promise and return us to a government of the
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people and to make America healthy.
Speaker 12 (15:07):
Attack we hear at the Michael Berry Shield believe that
a grown ass man or a lesbian woman should be
able to pop a cold beer on the drive home
on Friday.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
There to good Dragon, Big.
Speaker 16 (15:24):
The mesial sides that came to national attention in this
country when he made a movie about the evil that
was going on in this country and he told a
story in a narrative style that folks went to the.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Movie theater.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
In a way that you might pick up a book
to learn. It was advocacy in the form of storytelling
through vivid pictures and a narrative style that I don't
think we had seen before. I was proud to be
associated with that. It broke the It broke the record.
At the time the opening weekend, it was the top
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rated movie in the country. Liondscape picked it up. It
is not an exaggeration to say that it made the
distributors of movies, the people that determine whether a movie,
once made, is going to be seen by you or not,
or whether you're going to be exposed to it and
choose whether you go orna.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That movie changed.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Everything and everything that came after it is derivative of it.
Just the series of films that Dinese de Susa has made,
but a number of other films that you know of.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
None of that would have happened.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
The distributors wouldn't have touched it, The big houses wouldn't
have touched them. They realized there was a massive market here.
It also inspired a lot of people to use film
as their storytelling medium, and it's been very powerful and Denesia.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Susan did all that. That's not to say that.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Denestususa woke up the day before that and arrived on
the scene. He was a long standing He used to
debate Christopher Hitchins. He used to be a university president.
He had written a number of books, but he had
been a person much like say Mark Levin before Mark
Levinn began doing the Mark Levin Show, who was making
a difference, but to a very narrow audience. And then
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he he went mainstream. And I think to our advantage,
he to our benefit. He has a new movie out
and the time he couldn't have been more perfect. That's
not accidentally. He's a very strategic thinker. And it's called
vindicating Trump. Here's a trader for that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Somebody has to help this country and if they don't,
the country and the world are in big trouble.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Someone's going to overturn the table. See the table.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
She's a bit worried.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Oh the apprentice guy, the logs power?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Could you handle at wood at the vowel pow.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
They fear that power.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You didn't do an insurrection? Have you called for one?
Speaker 14 (18:00):
That would have been one, and there would be one
thing called for one.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Now I'm not sure I want that power. I want
the power just to make the country better.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
America first, and that's hears them a lot about Donald
Trump's hearsays.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Look at everything campaign is family.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Let's get foreign eyes on him.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
If we have one target, you know who he is
going after, their companies, their families.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That is addictator. It's a very dangerous time for a country.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
The goal is to put him in jail because they're
so afraid of his voice.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Is very, so deep and legal bank re bro got
him in jail right before the election.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That's harsh for being that guy. But is that an
election interference?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's not interference if we do it.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
We just went a free and fair election.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Sounds expensive, balancing, cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Wait wait, wait, did you actually say.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
The word buy the ballots?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We were able to purchase ten thousand ballots. That's terrifying.
They cheated in many different ways.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's all they're good at. Save democracy.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
We need to stop him permanently, and that person will
be risking his life. That is not the sixties, all right,
it's the Wes arrived.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Trump has beaten back every attacking empsom.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It's like a turn. We're going to fix our orders,
We're going to fix our issues. We're gonna win my legacy,
sating Trump. The best is yet to come to Nihalus
as our guest, welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 14 (19:18):
I'm very excited about this movie, and like you say,
it's it's coming at a time when people are making
up their minds.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
First of all, what was the moment where you said,
I have to make this movie. What was that moment
where you said, you know that this is something I'm
watching that I don't like. It needs to be fixed
or that needs to be told.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, I think it.
Speaker 14 (19:41):
Started with a bunch of comments that I would hear
from people on the Republican side. And I don't just
mean the never Trump or I mean the people who
say things like this, you know, I don't really like Trump,
but you know, I like his policies, or I just
wish he would shot his mouth, or in other words,
there's a campaign sort of to remake Trump, to rehabilitate him,
to f and I got the idea that, you know what,
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we don't actually need to remake Trump. We need to
remake our understanding of Trump. Why because for this moment
in the country, for this time, he's the right guy,
and his peculiar qualities are adapted and suited to what
we need now. I'm not saying that he'd be the
best candidate for every time in American history, but I
think for now he is not only the best guy,
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he's in a way kind of the only guy.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Radio is not very good for the audience when the
host stops to process something.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And I found myself off in doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Say that again, Well, let me say it a slightly
different way.
Speaker 14 (20:46):
Imagine if somebody were to go to Abraham Lincoln and say,
we don't like this General Grant. He's lazy, he bankrupted
his family's store, he curses even at his wife. He's
a philanderer, he's a drum.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know, pull him off the battlefield.
Speaker 14 (21:02):
Lincoln would say, are you insane? We're in a civil war.
This is the best guy who knows how to fight.
We're a team that actually hasn't been fighting all that
well until now.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So this is kind of my point about Trump.
Speaker 14 (21:15):
The supreme virtue that's required in politics right now on
our side is courage.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This guy has it like nobody else.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
And I don't just mean his reaction to the assassination attempts.
Look at the way he handles ninety one criminal charges.
Any other Republicans facing three criminal charges would have long
exited the race, fled from the field, and we would
never hear from that person.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Again.
Speaker 14 (21:39):
So Trump not only endures, he prevails, and he deflects,
he dodges. He's rope a dope. Somehow they think they've
got him, but they never really got him. And so
what I'm getting at is that we need somebody of
that caliber.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Now.
Speaker 14 (21:53):
He's in a sense the kind of a wartime general,
so to speak, and he's very well suited to it.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He even kind of enjoyed it.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And isn't that, in many ways a part of the
overall appeal for a people who have felt beaten down, forgotten, canceled,
harassed the entirety of it. And here is a guy
who stands up to it very publicly, and it's like
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he's taking the slings and arrows that we feel in
our private lives. Danesh T Susa is our guest. We
talk about his film Vindicating Trump, where you can see it,
when you can see it, why he made it, and more.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
Celebrating the grown ass working man and lesbian woman.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Or Friday Drive Home on the Michael Berry Show. Sanessa
Susa is our guest. The movie is Vindicating Trump.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Deanessha, I want to dig a little deeper here, and
I'll give you some time to answer these but when
you foresee what's going to happen in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You've been around this a long time.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
You've been arguing ideas as much as the nuts and
bolts and axes and knows.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Where do you think the American people are? Not the
people who joined me and you at your film.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Debut of the Trump film at mar Lago a few
years ago, Not the people marching for Hamas or marching
for Kamala. I mean Middle America that's not particularly political.
Where do you think they are right now?
Speaker 14 (23:24):
I think Middle America is nervous, a little frightened, and
quite honestly looking for a real change. And what we
are seeing is a cultivated orchestrated campaign to I would
call it a campaign of fact creation. And the fact
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here is Kamala Harris. So what they're trying to do
is what the left is actually brilliant of doing.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
See, you and I believe in truth.
Speaker 14 (23:56):
We believe that there's a reality out there. They believe
the truth to something that you create, that you devise,
that you manufacture, and so they're trying to manufacture a
kind of new and different and improved Kamala Harris. And
of course the election becomes almost a test to see
if the American people are smart enough and can see
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through this illusion. Now, I think the American people are
pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And the reason I think that is.
Speaker 14 (24:24):
Because, well, just take a movie the ordinary American sitting
in a movie theater, and you've got some kind of
a complex who done it? And the obvious suspect is
not the real guy.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But notice how shrewd people.
Speaker 14 (24:35):
Aren't being able to pick up little details that point
to who the real bad guys are. They're pretty good
at doing that. They're not actually dumb. They can see
through a sham. And so I think this is really
a sort of a test as to whether or not
an orchestrated media campaign can give us this kind of
invented Kamala Harris as opposed to the real Kamala Harris.
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Because I think if we had a fair media in
this country, Trump would win.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Sixty forty or even sixty five thirty five.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I think you're absolutely right, Tnish, I think you're absolutely
right when you look at reasons people might not vote
for Trump, that it would be in their best interest
to vote for Trump, and how that could be changed.
Speaker 14 (25:19):
What do you see, Well, remember that, well, This is
in one of the opening scenes of the movie, and
it's the iconic scene of Trump coming down the escalator.
And I've thought about that scene a little bit because
to me, the keyword here is down.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
See here's Trump. And he was a cultural celebrity.
Speaker 14 (25:35):
He was in with Oprah and Ellen and Larry King
and all the other cool cats. And then he made
that faithful decision. It wasn't just that he ran for president.
It wasn't just that he was a Republican, but it
was that he was sort of descending away from that
elite class and sort of joining hands with the ordinary American.
Now a lot of ordinary Americans got that, they became
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grateful and attached to Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Of that, that's why they won't give up on him.
Speaker 14 (26:02):
On the other hand, it also helps to explain how
the elites who were previously his friends then came to
despise and hate him because they saw him as a
trader to their class, to their camp, to their group.
Here's a guy who was one of them, and then
he joined with the pitchfork people against them, and they'll
never forgive him for doing that.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
And interesting, you know, you see the people that haven't
forgotten him the herschel Walkers and the Mike Tyson's and
people that go way back, and they say, listen, I
know Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Don't tell me who he is or isn't I know him.
I've been there with him.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
But for all these people who knew him over the years,
the al Sharptons, the Jesse Jackson's, Whoopi Goldbers, you know,
these folks, the Bette Midlers, who watched him contribute to causes,
do good things. They went to his parties, and now
all of a sudden they want to tell us he's
the devil. They know that's not true, and it says
more about them than it does him, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
It totally does.
Speaker 14 (27:00):
And also look at all the people who criticize Trump's character,
you know, and they they'll say, well, you know he's
he's a liar, he's a playboy, he's you know, he's this.
This guy is so he's got a massive ego. And
my point is, all right, number one, let's look at
those things. I'll be Trump used to be a playboy.
Are you saying he's a playboy? Now, No, No one
(27:21):
says that he's so. The best you got on him
is he's a reformed playboy, not the worst thing to
be in the world. Okay, he's he's got a massive ego. Well,
guess what if you are facing NonStop vicious attacks on
every platform, every minute of every day, wouldn't you need
some kind of an ego as a protection, as your
own personal wall. Otherwise you're just going to crumble as
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a human being. No normal person can withstand that kind
of fury. So in a weird way, I think even
some of Trump's vices, and they are vices, are also
at the same time political virtues. And finally, let's look
at Trump's virtues. He's magnanimous. He's very kind to ordinary people.
The guys who work as dorman in his hotels and
catering love the guy.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You'll never get one of them to say a bad
word about him.
Speaker 14 (28:08):
He looks after his family and they're dedicated and.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Even devoted to him. And most of all, he has
the supreme virtue of courage.
Speaker 14 (28:15):
So that's part of what I try to do in
this film is bring out Trump. The centerpiece of the
film is a one on one with Trump, and I
try to bring out some private aspects of the man
that I've seen over the years. But the Trump himself
conceals from the public, and so bringing that out in
a natural way in a conversation, I think is the
real accomplishment of this conversation with Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I think you're right, dan Aghan.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
One of our listeners, very informed, very committed to fixing
this country. He says, Michael, can you ask Nash about
two thousand mules and why our government will not prosecute
the fraud? The work of truth vote, the work of
two thousand mules, all the things that have been learned
in Arizona, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania about the fraud.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
How can we get this prosecuted?
Speaker 14 (29:05):
So the short answer is this, The fraud that was
documented in the film focused on a lot of democratic
areas Fulton County and Georgia, Maricopa County, which is nominally Republican,
but also Detroit Democratic Philadelphia. So the point is that
the Democrats in charge there were obviously not eager to
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start quote looking into it. So it was up to Republicans,
the Republican establishment in Georgia, for example, Governor Kemp or
the Republicans in Arizona, or Republicans around the country to
scream and demand that somebody interviewed the mules.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Maybe the mules have a great explanation.
Speaker 14 (29:43):
So why they're there with backpacks in the middle of
the night, putting ballots one after the other.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Maybe there's some explanation, Well what is it?
Speaker 14 (29:49):
But the point is the Republicans kind of failed us
because the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Were scared of being called election deniers.
Speaker 14 (29:58):
There are a few radioactive topics for mainstream Republicans.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
One of them is January sixth.
Speaker 14 (30:04):
Certainly one of them is the so called stolen election,
and so they run. There's a senator when we're close
to and we're like, hey, come to our media room.
We're going to play two thousand Mules. And the guy
just never replied. And I was thinking to myself, this
is somebody I know. Why would he not reply? And
then I figured it out. He doesn't want to see
the movie. And the reason he doesn't want to see
the movie is not because it's false. He fears it's true.
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But if it's true and he sees it, he's going
to have to do something about it. But he doesn't
want to do anything about it. Therefore he doesn't want
to see the movie. So this psychology is the core
reason why two thousand mules, which sort of needed a
next step and the next step and the next step,
and those steps were not forthcoming.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Nick Seers, he was hanging out at my house. He
said he had come in early. He was going to
be filming the next day and y'all were filming at
a beautiful, big home in Houston. He said, you want
to drive over and see the house and see the set,
And I did. You were coming out as we were
going in.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Is that what y'all were filming?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You know, I I'm thinking back.
Speaker 14 (31:01):
It might have been actually my last film Police date.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Now, oh yeah, that wasn't.
Speaker 14 (31:06):
Yeah, but he's also in, you know, he also plays
the sort of director of.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
The intelligence agent.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
He's our guest coming up.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Maxelmore, Danesh Jesusa, thank you for the great work. The
movie is vindicating Trump.
It's that time time, time, time.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Luck.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
And look, the Michael Verry Show is on the air.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Charlie from BlackBerrys Mother, I can feel a good one
coming on.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It's the Michael Berry Show. Oh, yes, it is, Yes,
it is.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I am so very hopeful right now. I'm not a
cynic at heart. I am cynical toward people trying to
sell me something because I want to know what they're
going to gain.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm all for a win win.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I'm all for the belief that if you've got bake
goods and I've got ten dollars and I would rather
those bake goods than my.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Ten dollars, and you want my ten.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Dollars more than your baked goods, it can be a
win win, right, And I'm believe in that. But I
don't think that just because somebody's telling me I got
to have baked goods when I'm not even hungry, it's
a good thing. Nevertheless, I keep a very positive attitude,
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a very positive attitude, and I still hold out hope
for the people of this country, and many don't. Many
will say whether idiots, there are plenty of idiots. I agree,
plenty of idiots, and it's easy like with the Prodigal Son,
(01:47):
to see the one and overlook the ninety nine. But
you're a good person. Let's start there. Spouse is a
good person, your parents are good people, your kids are
good people. People you work with are good people. The
people around you are good people. Right, can we agree
(02:12):
to all those things? Well, let's start there. What's to
say that what shows on the television is reality. I
think your reality and I'm reality, and I think we
should be willing to fight. Our president has shown he's
willing to fight. That's what he said when he was shot.
(02:34):
We've been playing a song by John conn that the
president seems to really enjoy, called Fighter. But we decided
it need a little extra something, so we added a
little Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And we think it's better than taste some time. Oh
that's good, that's good.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
So she just started by saying she's going to do this,
she's going to do that, She's going to do all
these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
She's been there for three and a half years. They've
had three and a half years to fix the border.
They've had three and a half years to create jobs
and all the things we talked about.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now.
Go down to that beautiful white House.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Go to the Capitol, get everyone together and do the
things you want to do.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But you haven't done it, and you won't do it.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
I'm faery, mold and harder.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I was born to the doore. I'm making run.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Don't prove that.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
Count is yeah, don't catching that last bill you order wed.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm fired.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
These encounters with death have not broken my will.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
They have really given me a much bigger and stronger mission.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
They've only hardened my resolve to use.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
My time on earth to make America great again, for
all Americans, to put America.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
First to go. Shot said all you got to come
fiery road, and had.
Speaker 9 (04:26):
I was going to.
Speaker 8 (04:27):
Be able to die.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm making ride.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Don't pull web founds.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You don't guess you a man?
Speaker 10 (04:36):
Last been a hard way time.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, keep me down.
Speaker 11 (04:52):
We didn't know, but they know.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
I rebuilt our entire military. She gave a lot of
it away to the Taliban.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
She gave it to Afghanistan.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
What these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Of all is allowing millions of.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
People to come into our country. Many of them are criminals,
and they're destroying our country. The worst president, the worst
vice president in the history of our country.
Speaker 12 (05:28):
Ladies, make yourself useful and grab your fellow or girlfriend
a beer, pop and tope right around the corner.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
On the Friday drive home edition of The Michael Barry Show.
Speaker 13 (05:45):
After the debate, they told me what to say. I
want your old rats.
Speaker 11 (06:00):
Big nasible states at least about the way.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Hey, they told me what to say.
Speaker 13 (06:07):
Hey, blue power.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Truss, blue Musson, Hey sins partly cute and go feel
this so cool man, run outside this trucking up real nice.
Doesn't tell you play lay play, Make lady Denis to
take take day day j I'll pretend this was a stage,
stay stage, snape stage.
Speaker 11 (06:31):
I'll ask yourself, I'll take it off.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Get a heard, big Gray, don't trying to see a
big bet, big, big big.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Did you think I was saying? Saint Saint's staying sing?
Speaker 11 (06:43):
I'll ask yourself, I'll take it off its feed. But
my cat tells you be tea. Don't the next means
much to me except for killing babies.
Speaker 13 (06:57):
Got an abe full of troubles.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I'll track with my jack yours and I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The who is y'all.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Immigrants are losing driving like them losing.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That dem gig.
Speaker 13 (07:16):
Fuck you say, say it's so fun.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
When it's pulling out bad right, because I'm Taylor ran
to play play play play plays it take take a
j I'll pretend it was a stage stay stage stage shage.
Speaker 11 (07:31):
I'm not saying off, I'll take it off.
Speaker 14 (07:34):
Calabery is trying.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
To re pay great big ring.
Speaker 13 (07:37):
I'm trying to take the big pet beeg big did you.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Think of this saying saying things saying see, I'm not
saying he's off.
Speaker 11 (07:45):
I'll take it off.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I take it off, I take.
Speaker 10 (07:49):
I take it off.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
I take it off, I take it off, I take
it off.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I take it up. I take it off.
Speaker 11 (07:59):
Hey, Hey, Just like well, Kamala is covering for Joe
Biden's noddle decline, which is completely clear to the world.
They were also setting up this endorsement with.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Me pax Man, I'm just girl friends.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
She's ginus in that shop.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
I co.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Over there with.
Speaker 10 (08:18):
The corn block you're making.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
You'll never swim make make make America.
Speaker 13 (08:30):
Say hey, days, stay stay stayed stage say why must
he off?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I'll take it off?
Speaker 13 (08:38):
Cal bat Big brazy to big Bee, big big dang.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Do you think of you say saying saint say see
why must he off?
Speaker 13 (08:48):
I'll take it off, fun, I tak it.
Speaker 14 (08:51):
I took it off.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I dig you, I take it off.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I take it off, I take it off, I take it.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Taylor Swift officially endorsed Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
The reason she gave she was gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
For her endorsement was Tim Waltz's LGBTQ policies.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You know tampon, Tim Well.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Megan Kelly was participating in a Tucker Carlson line when
she laid into Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
We love Megan Kelly On this show.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
She says the reason she's voting for Kamala Harris is
because of Tim Walls's LGBTQ stance. Do you know what
Tim Walls has done on the LGBTQ front, Tim wall
let me tell you what's gonna happen. Okay, Well, here's
what's gonna happen. A little girl sitting in Wisconsin who's
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maybe on the spectrum, maybe has acne, maybe is a
little heavy.
Speaker 10 (09:58):
Set, maybe feels up sex. The parents are going to divorce.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
Something like that is going to find herself down a
rabbit hole on Reddit, and her parents aren't going to
know because they're going to divorce and they're not focused
on her right now. And she's going to spend hour
after hour on that thing. And Reddit's going to tell
her she's actually a boy, and she's going to get sucked.
Speaker 10 (10:16):
Into this gender cult. And she's going to.
Speaker 9 (10:18):
Say, Mom and Dad, I want puberty blockers into cross
sex hormones, which will sterilize her and deprive her of
all sexual pleasure for.
Speaker 10 (10:25):
The rest of her life. And they're going to say, no,
you're a girl.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
And she's going to say, but I want to I
want top surgery, this benign thing, this double misteck to
me where I'll have tubes coming out of me and
I'll never breastfeed a child.
Speaker 10 (10:36):
I want that too, because I'm a boy. And they're
going to say no.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
And she's going to go to a judge in Minnesota,
and because of Tim Walls, the court will take custody
of her, use the medicaid funds in Minnesota to provide
her all of those things, chop off her breasts, sterilize.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Her with the puberty blockers under the cross sex hormones.
Speaker 9 (10:57):
And when this girl inevitably comes to the conclude that
she didn't want any of this, that it only added
to her problems, which were the divorce and the acne
and the puberty, and not any trends issue.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
Who's she going to go to them? This is all
because of Tim Walls.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
That's what Minnesota is doing right now to little girls
and boys, taking custody away from the parents so that
they can have these procedures without any loving parent there
to help. And that's what Taylor Swift just endorsed for
your children.
Speaker 10 (11:26):
So screw you, Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Now, I'm sure Taylor Swift speaks her own mind and
I wouldn't presume to suggest otherwise, but a lot of
other people with keen insight do. They're suggesting that Taylor
Swift is an asset of the left. I don't know
how those rumors got started. Listen to this.
Speaker 15 (11:51):
I had the chance to purchase my music outright. My
entire catalog was sold to Scooter Braun's IFICA Holdings in
a deal that I'm told was funded by the Soros family,
twenty three Capital, and the Carlile Group.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Oh the people who own her Masters, which is equivalent
to owning her That's how she makes her money. George Soros,
the Carlisle Group, Scooter Braun, George Soros. You know George Soros.
Why did he buy Taylor Swift's Masters and why since
(12:28):
then has she endorsed a bunch of liberal candidates that
he also supports. Well, we know Taylor Swift is for sale,
and now we know what the price tag was. We
played an audio clip yesterday and I was short on time,
and I sandwiched it into a segment. I want you
(12:49):
to hear it again because it's very important.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Robert F.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Kennedy Junior, whose dad and uncle were killed by the
deep state. He's talking about the fact that is trying
to drain the swamp. If people need to understand how
big and complex and difficult this is. This is David
and Goliath. Trump's not the powerful one here. The swamp
(13:13):
is all powerful. The swamp protects itself.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Everyone has heard President Trump's signature phrase.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Drain the swamp. In Washington, DC.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
His instinct is hot on the problem is that in
Washington it's not just about a few corrupt individuals. It's
a whole crooked system. It's the federal agencies as the lobbyists.
It's the think tanks and research organizations. It's the university
and the academic groups and the media, and it's the
corporations that have captured these agencies and turned them into.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
The sock puppets.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
But the industries they're supposed to regulate lives. Spent forty
years douing almost all of these agencies in many of
the industries, and I know the names in many of
these agencies of the bad actors who need to be
looped out. I understand the perverse incentives that put agency
capture on steroids. I know how this system is supposed
to work protect the public interests and how it actually
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works to protect the mercantile interests of the regulated industries.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
That have captured.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And I know how to fix it. When you sue
an agency, you get a PhD in corporate capture and
how to unravel it. And that's exactly what I'm going
to do with Donald Trump's backing. Let me tell you
what we're going to do. We're going to appoint honest
officials who don't have conflicts of interest. We're going to
listen to whistleblowers and act on their revelations. We're going
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to slam shut the revolving door that sends industry executives
and lobbyists in and out of government.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We're going to fire.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Anyone who portrays the public trust or wise to the public.
And we're going to prohibit federal agencies from using their
powers to harass political opponents. That's what it means to
drain the swamp. One of my priorities in Washington will
be to make sure President Trump can follow through on
his promise and return us to a government of the
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people and to make America healthy.
Speaker 12 (15:07):
Attack we hear at the Michael Berry Shield believe that
a grown ass man or a lesbian woman should be
able to pop a cold beer on the drive home
on Friday.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
There to good Dragon, Big.
Speaker 16 (15:24):
The mesial sides that came to national attention in this
country when he made a movie about the evil that
was going on in this country and he told a
story in a narrative style that folks went to the.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Movie theater.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
In a way that you might pick up a book
to learn. It was advocacy in the form of storytelling
through vivid pictures and a narrative style that I don't
think we had seen before. I was proud to be
associated with that. It broke the It broke the record.
At the time the opening weekend, it was the top
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rated movie in the country. Liondscape picked it up. It
is not an exaggeration to say that it made the
distributors of movies, the people that determine whether a movie,
once made, is going to be seen by you or not,
or whether you're going to be exposed to it and
choose whether you go orna.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That movie changed.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Everything and everything that came after it is derivative of it.
Just the series of films that Dinese de Susa has made,
but a number of other films that you know of.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
None of that would have happened.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
The distributors wouldn't have touched it, The big houses wouldn't
have touched them. They realized there was a massive market here.
It also inspired a lot of people to use film
as their storytelling medium, and it's been very powerful and Denesia.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Susan did all that. That's not to say that.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Denestususa woke up the day before that and arrived on
the scene. He was a long standing He used to
debate Christopher Hitchins. He used to be a university president.
He had written a number of books, but he had
been a person much like say Mark Levin before Mark
Levinn began doing the Mark Levin Show, who was making
a difference, but to a very narrow audience. And then
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he he went mainstream. And I think to our advantage,
he to our benefit. He has a new movie out
and the time he couldn't have been more perfect. That's
not accidentally. He's a very strategic thinker. And it's called
vindicating Trump. Here's a trader for that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Somebody has to help this country and if they don't,
the country and the world are in big trouble.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Someone's going to overturn the table. See the table.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
She's a bit worried.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Oh the apprentice guy, the logs power?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Could you handle at wood at the vowel pow.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
They fear that power.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You didn't do an insurrection? Have you called for one?
Speaker 14 (18:00):
That would have been one, and there would be one
thing called for one.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Now I'm not sure I want that power. I want
the power just to make the country better.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
America first, and that's hears them a lot about Donald
Trump's hearsays.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Look at everything campaign is family.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Let's get foreign eyes on him.
Speaker 9 (18:14):
If we have one target, you know who he is
going after, their companies, their families.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That is addictator. It's a very dangerous time for a country.
Speaker 9 (18:21):
The goal is to put him in jail because they're
so afraid of his voice.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Is very, so deep and legal bank re bro got
him in jail right before the election.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That's harsh for being that guy. But is that an
election interference?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's not interference if we do it.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
We just went a free and fair election.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Sounds expensive, balancing, cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Wait wait, wait, did you actually say.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
The word buy the ballots?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We were able to purchase ten thousand ballots. That's terrifying.
They cheated in many different ways.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's all they're good at. Save democracy.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
We need to stop him permanently, and that person will
be risking his life. That is not the sixties, all right,
it's the Wes arrived.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Trump has beaten back every attacking empsom.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It's like a turn. We're going to fix our orders,
We're going to fix our issues. We're gonna win my legacy,
sating Trump. The best is yet to come to Nihalus
as our guest, welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 14 (19:18):
I'm very excited about this movie, and like you say,
it's it's coming at a time when people are making
up their minds.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
First of all, what was the moment where you said,
I have to make this movie. What was that moment
where you said, you know that this is something I'm
watching that I don't like. It needs to be fixed
or that needs to be told.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, I think it.
Speaker 14 (19:41):
Started with a bunch of comments that I would hear
from people on the Republican side. And I don't just
mean the never Trump or I mean the people who
say things like this, you know, I don't really like Trump,
but you know, I like his policies, or I just
wish he would shot his mouth, or in other words,
there's a campaign sort of to remake Trump, to rehabilitate him,
to f and I got the idea that, you know what,
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we don't actually need to remake Trump. We need to
remake our understanding of Trump. Why because for this moment
in the country, for this time, he's the right guy,
and his peculiar qualities are adapted and suited to what
we need now. I'm not saying that he'd be the
best candidate for every time in American history, but I
think for now he is not only the best guy,
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he's in a way kind of the only guy.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Radio is not very good for the audience when the
host stops to process something.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And I found myself off in doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Say that again, Well, let me say it a slightly
different way.
Speaker 14 (20:46):
Imagine if somebody were to go to Abraham Lincoln and say,
we don't like this General Grant. He's lazy, he bankrupted
his family's store, he curses even at his wife. He's
a philanderer, he's a drum.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know, pull him off the battlefield.
Speaker 14 (21:02):
Lincoln would say, are you insane? We're in a civil war.
This is the best guy who knows how to fight.
We're a team that actually hasn't been fighting all that
well until now.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
So this is kind of my point about Trump.
Speaker 14 (21:15):
The supreme virtue that's required in politics right now on
our side is courage.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This guy has it like nobody else.
Speaker 14 (21:23):
And I don't just mean his reaction to the assassination attempts.
Look at the way he handles ninety one criminal charges.
Any other Republicans facing three criminal charges would have long
exited the race, fled from the field, and we would
never hear from that person.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Again.
Speaker 14 (21:39):
So Trump not only endures, he prevails, and he deflects,
he dodges. He's rope a dope. Somehow they think they've
got him, but they never really got him. And so
what I'm getting at is that we need somebody of
that caliber.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Now.
Speaker 14 (21:53):
He's in a sense the kind of a wartime general,
so to speak, and he's very well suited to it.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He even kind of enjoyed it.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
And isn't that, in many ways a part of the
overall appeal for a people who have felt beaten down, forgotten, canceled,
harassed the entirety of it. And here is a guy
who stands up to it very publicly, and it's like
(22:21):
he's taking the slings and arrows that we feel in
our private lives. Danesh T Susa is our guest. We
talk about his film Vindicating Trump, where you can see it,
when you can see it, why he made it, and more.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
Celebrating the grown ass working man and lesbian woman.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Or Friday Drive Home on the Michael Berry Show. Sanessa
Susa is our guest. The movie is Vindicating Trump.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Deanessha, I want to dig a little deeper here, and
I'll give you some time to answer these but when
you foresee what's going to happen in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You've been around this a long time.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
You've been arguing ideas as much as the nuts and
bolts and axes and knows.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Where do you think the American people are? Not the
people who joined me and you at your film.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Debut of the Trump film at mar Lago a few
years ago, Not the people marching for Hamas or marching
for Kamala. I mean Middle America that's not particularly political.
Where do you think they are right now?
Speaker 14 (23:24):
I think Middle America is nervous, a little frightened, and
quite honestly looking for a real change. And what we
are seeing is a cultivated orchestrated campaign to I would
call it a campaign of fact creation. And the fact
(23:47):
here is Kamala Harris. So what they're trying to do
is what the left is actually brilliant of doing.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
See, you and I believe in truth.
Speaker 14 (23:56):
We believe that there's a reality out there. They believe
the truth to something that you create, that you devise,
that you manufacture, and so they're trying to manufacture a
kind of new and different and improved Kamala Harris. And
of course the election becomes almost a test to see
if the American people are smart enough and can see
(24:19):
through this illusion. Now, I think the American people are
pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And the reason I think that is.
Speaker 14 (24:24):
Because, well, just take a movie the ordinary American sitting
in a movie theater, and you've got some kind of
a complex who done it? And the obvious suspect is
not the real guy.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But notice how shrewd people.
Speaker 14 (24:35):
Aren't being able to pick up little details that point
to who the real bad guys are. They're pretty good
at doing that. They're not actually dumb. They can see
through a sham. And so I think this is really
a sort of a test as to whether or not
an orchestrated media campaign can give us this kind of
invented Kamala Harris as opposed to the real Kamala Harris.
(24:58):
Because I think if we had a fair media in
this country, Trump would win.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Sixty forty or even sixty five thirty five.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I think you're absolutely right, Tnish, I think you're absolutely
right when you look at reasons people might not vote
for Trump, that it would be in their best interest
to vote for Trump, and how that could be changed.
Speaker 14 (25:19):
What do you see, Well, remember that, well, This is
in one of the opening scenes of the movie, and
it's the iconic scene of Trump coming down the escalator.
And I've thought about that scene a little bit because
to me, the keyword here is down.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
See here's Trump. And he was a cultural celebrity.
Speaker 14 (25:35):
He was in with Oprah and Ellen and Larry King
and all the other cool cats. And then he made
that faithful decision. It wasn't just that he ran for president.
It wasn't just that he was a Republican, but it
was that he was sort of descending away from that
elite class and sort of joining hands with the ordinary American.
Now a lot of ordinary Americans got that, they became
(25:58):
grateful and attached to Trump.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Of that, that's why they won't give up on him.
Speaker 14 (26:02):
On the other hand, it also helps to explain how
the elites who were previously his friends then came to
despise and hate him because they saw him as a
trader to their class, to their camp, to their group.
Here's a guy who was one of them, and then
he joined with the pitchfork people against them, and they'll
never forgive him for doing that.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
And interesting, you know, you see the people that haven't
forgotten him the herschel Walkers and the Mike Tyson's and
people that go way back, and they say, listen, I
know Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Don't tell me who he is or isn't I know him.
I've been there with him.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
But for all these people who knew him over the years,
the al Sharptons, the Jesse Jackson's, Whoopi Goldbers, you know,
these folks, the Bette Midlers, who watched him contribute to causes,
do good things. They went to his parties, and now
all of a sudden they want to tell us he's
the devil. They know that's not true, and it says
more about them than it does him, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
It totally does.
Speaker 14 (27:00):
And also look at all the people who criticize Trump's character,
you know, and they they'll say, well, you know he's
he's a liar, he's a playboy, he's you know, he's this.
This guy is so he's got a massive ego. And
my point is, all right, number one, let's look at
those things. I'll be Trump used to be a playboy.
Are you saying he's a playboy? Now, No, No one
(27:21):
says that he's so. The best you got on him
is he's a reformed playboy, not the worst thing to
be in the world. Okay, he's he's got a massive ego. Well,
guess what if you are facing NonStop vicious attacks on
every platform, every minute of every day, wouldn't you need
some kind of an ego as a protection, as your
own personal wall. Otherwise you're just going to crumble as
(27:44):
a human being. No normal person can withstand that kind
of fury. So in a weird way, I think even
some of Trump's vices, and they are vices, are also
at the same time political virtues. And finally, let's look
at Trump's virtues. He's magnanimous. He's very kind to ordinary people.
The guys who work as dorman in his hotels and
catering love the guy.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You'll never get one of them to say a bad
word about him.
Speaker 14 (28:08):
He looks after his family and they're dedicated and.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Even devoted to him. And most of all, he has
the supreme virtue of courage.
Speaker 14 (28:15):
So that's part of what I try to do in
this film is bring out Trump. The centerpiece of the
film is a one on one with Trump, and I
try to bring out some private aspects of the man
that I've seen over the years. But the Trump himself
conceals from the public, and so bringing that out in
a natural way in a conversation, I think is the
real accomplishment of this conversation with Trump.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I think you're right, dan Aghan.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
One of our listeners, very informed, very committed to fixing
this country. He says, Michael, can you ask Nash about
two thousand mules and why our government will not prosecute
the fraud? The work of truth vote, the work of
two thousand mules, all the things that have been learned
in Arizona, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania about the fraud.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
How can we get this prosecuted?
Speaker 14 (29:05):
So the short answer is this, The fraud that was
documented in the film focused on a lot of democratic
areas Fulton County and Georgia, Maricopa County, which is nominally Republican,
but also Detroit Democratic Philadelphia. So the point is that
the Democrats in charge there were obviously not eager to
(29:25):
start quote looking into it. So it was up to Republicans,
the Republican establishment in Georgia, for example, Governor Kemp or
the Republicans in Arizona, or Republicans around the country to
scream and demand that somebody interviewed the mules.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Maybe the mules have a great explanation.
Speaker 14 (29:43):
So why they're there with backpacks in the middle of
the night, putting ballots one after the other.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Maybe there's some explanation, Well what is it?
Speaker 14 (29:49):
But the point is the Republicans kind of failed us
because the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Were scared of being called election deniers.
Speaker 14 (29:58):
There are a few radioactive topics for mainstream Republicans.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
One of them is January sixth.
Speaker 14 (30:04):
Certainly one of them is the so called stolen election,
and so they run. There's a senator when we're close
to and we're like, hey, come to our media room.
We're going to play two thousand Mules. And the guy
just never replied. And I was thinking to myself, this
is somebody I know. Why would he not reply? And
then I figured it out. He doesn't want to see
the movie. And the reason he doesn't want to see
the movie is not because it's false. He fears it's true.
(30:26):
But if it's true and he sees it, he's going
to have to do something about it. But he doesn't
want to do anything about it. Therefore he doesn't want
to see the movie. So this psychology is the core
reason why two thousand mules, which sort of needed a
next step and the next step and the next step,
and those steps were not forthcoming.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Nick Seers, he was hanging out at my house. He
said he had come in early. He was going to
be filming the next day and y'all were filming at
a beautiful, big home in Houston. He said, you want
to drive over and see the house and see the set,
And I did. You were coming out as we were
going in.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Is that what y'all were filming?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You know, I I'm thinking back.
Speaker 14 (31:01):
It might have been actually my last film Police date.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Now, oh yeah, that wasn't.
Speaker 14 (31:06):
Yeah, but he's also in, you know, he also plays
the sort of director of.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
The intelligence agent.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
He's our guest coming up.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Maxelmore, Danesh Jesusa, thank you for the great work. The
movie is vindicating Trump.
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