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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's that time time, time, luck and load. So Michael
Varry Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
It feels it feels weird, and I know some of
you have felt this way.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I wake up just giddy.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I can't wait to see what's in the news, what
wonderful new things will have happened. There was a continuing
resolution for United States Congress. They play this game and
it's so insulting. Oh, the government's gonna shut down. What

(01:07):
are we gonna do? We don't know what to do. Remember,
it was gonna go over the cliff one year, was
gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Over the cliff. That was the analogy.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
The government's gonna shut down. We don't want to shut down.
Remember newke Gingrid shut down the government and everybody died,
except nobody died. The only thing that happened was it
all the staff left the White House and Bill Clinton
was in there. Well we know what he was doing
with Monica Lewinsky. The only the only thing to come

(01:39):
out of the shutdown was.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's too easy for mom, that's too easy.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
So they keep telling us, oh, we got we gotta
vote on the bill, and they pack all this stuff
in the bill, and then and then you go Hey, Congressman,
why did you vote for this bill that did this
as it is? We had to do it the last manyue.
We didnt want to shut down the government. Shut the
government down. Honestly, we're good shut it down. Shut it down.

(02:12):
So Elon Musk, they don't like anybody having any influence
from outside of Congress. Elon Musk said, you know, because
he started this political action committee. He said, if you
vote for it, because there's so much waste in it,
I'm going to primary anybody who does. And that killed
the bill. Here's Chad Pergrim at Fox News talking about

(02:35):
that fact.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
We're told right now in the past thirty or forty
minutes here that they might try to pull this interim
spending bill off the floor and maybe just go with
a clean bill. Unclear what that means for disaster assistance.
Here's what happened. A post on x by Elon Musk
sent shockwaves through the Capitol House. Republicans were trying to
see if they have enough votes to pass the spending

(02:57):
bill in the next hour or two. Musk hosted that
anyone who votes yes should lose their office in two years,
and lawmakers are scrambling the tweets from Mosco and has
that complicated this well.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
I mean, I think that there's always a lot of
interest in what's happening up here, and this is more
than interests.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
They're telling people they vote yes, they should be voted out.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
The social media world is a part of our politics.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
And I think members have to expect that there'd be
a lot of part votes in the.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Next couple of years.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
A member of the House Republican leadership told Fox that
Musk is not helping the lawmaker added that Musk has
bigger fish to fry than picking a fight with House Republicans.
One source of the bill is now bleeding support from
the GOP. When asked how many Democrats the GOP needs
to pass the bill, a senior aide replied, quote, a
lot lawmakers who had hurricanes devastate their districts are torn.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
The fact is is that, look, this is a sandwich house.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
To say that we're being forced into this position. They
could have done a standalone.

Speaker 8 (04:03):
They did this because they knew that it would put
members in this position to support it.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
We're damned if we do.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
We're damn if we don't. Now the bill has about
one hundred billion dollars in disaster relief, nearly thirty billion
to restock FEMA's coffers, and there are lots of healthcare provisions.
Jamming everything together in one bill means some Republicans will
not support Mike Johnson for speaker in January.

Speaker 9 (04:26):
Have any other your colleagues that if they're not voting
for Johnson?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
In experience, I've talked to a few.

Speaker 10 (04:33):
You know, if you don't seem like they're going to
vote for him, you have to ask them.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm not going to be traying a based.

Speaker 11 (04:39):
Position, Well you just vote president, or will you vote
for someone Else's safe?

Speaker 9 (04:43):
Vote for somebody else?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Now Johnson can only lose one vote and still win
the Speaker's race on January third. Some Republicans ask how
things are different with a spending bill like this under
Johnson than former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. The funding deadline
is Friday night.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
So in Houston, there's a very popular man. He's a
sponsor of our show and everyone calls him Mac. He
started as Mattress. Mac is a furniture and mattress store,
and he gives a lot back to the community's larger
than life personality and great guy, and he had a
lot of blockage in his heart and one of his

(05:22):
best friends, Bud Frasier, is a prominent heart surgeon, and
they did a bypass open heart surgery on him. And
he's in his early seventies and they said, look, Mac,
you're gonna die. You're gonna die any minute. We don't
do this. Well, a surgery split him open from just
below his Adam's apple all the way down to his groin,

(05:44):
and you can die from that surgery. It's a very
traumatic surgery and a very long recovery. So tomorrow, when
we finish our morning show, all our listeners are going
to head over to his place, Gallery Furniture, in my
forty five North and wish him well because we love him,
because he does so much for the community and nothing

(06:05):
makes him happier than people coming to Gallery Furniture. Well,
he didn't make a decision to get split open and
have to recover from awful surgery and risk that he
would die under the knife, which many people do. He
didn't do all that because he was bored. They explained

(06:27):
to him that your arteries are clogged and you're about
to die. The fix is going to be painful. But
because things are so bad, you're gonna have to undergo
this horrible, dangerous, painful fix because otherwise you die. Y'all

(06:52):
are gonna have to understand. It's gonna get ugly for
us to fix this country so our republic doesn't die.
The people in Washington, DC who run this country, they're
not willingly going to give up power. They resent this.
Who are you, you, hay seed? Who are you to

(07:14):
tell them that they can't trade stocks? Dan Crenshaw's furious
that you conspiracy theorists. Who are you to tell Nancy
Pelosi she can't get wealthy trading stocks. Who are you
to tell them they can't have a pay raise. They
haven't had a pay raise in since two thousand and nine.
How are they going to better themselves? We're told they

(07:36):
can't better themselves. And there you are out there washing
the gravel out of your butt cheeks when you get
home every day from the pit, busting your button. You
don't get all the perks that they do. You don't
get the retirement they do. And Obamacare applied to you
but not them, and they wrote the law. Who are you, folks?

(07:58):
We're gonna have to crack some eggs to make an
omelet in this country. You gonna have to understand that
Elon Musk expressing an interest and wielding power, power is
a zero sum game for we the people to have power,
for Trump to do things on our behalf means we
take it from them and they hate you for it.

(08:19):
And that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
The Michael Daries joke continues to use, continues if.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You think about the people who serve in Joe Biden's cabinet, pete,
but a gig, what a joke.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
It went missing for I don't know what a year.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
At one point, Sam Brenton, the dude who shaved his
head and smeared lipstick all over his face and wore
high heels and short skirts. He was just put in
charge of nuclear energy and nuclear waste. Nothing to worry about.
That was the nut job who was stealing people's clothes

(09:04):
at the airport.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
And then running out and wearing them. And that's.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's a sign of a nut And then Mss Piggy
dressed up in the uniform. Think about the people who
passed and the media never said a damn thing about it. Oh,
but they don't want Donald Trump's cabinet. Oh, we're supposed
to want diversity. Well, they're diverse. They come from all
sorts of different backgrounds. Ted Budd, a Republican senator from

(09:36):
North Carolina, was on CNN with that nasty person, as
Donald Trump correctly called her, Caitlin Collins, and he said
he thinks all of Trump's nominees will get approved.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Questions that you have for him that you'd like to
have answered.

Speaker 12 (09:53):
Well, first of all, we've been meeting with a lot
of these nominees, and these nominees they're going to get confirmed,
so we think we have to look at it with
that framework. I asked him all the questions. I think
they all get confirmed. I do, and I've had great
meetings with him. I've asked all the tough questions. I said, hey,
I think the Democrats are going to ask you this.
Tell me how you're looking at these questions. So I'll

(10:13):
ask Bobby Kennedy some tough questions tomorrow. You know, I
come from an agricultural state, so I'm going to ask
him about traditional agriculture. It's the biggest industry in North Carolina.

Speaker 9 (10:24):
I'm going to ask him all sorts of things.

Speaker 12 (10:26):
You know, we've got hog farmers that are going to
ask him, you know, do you support our industry?

Speaker 9 (10:31):
Are you going to hurt North Carolina? But let's remember, at.

Speaker 12 (10:33):
The end of the day, this is Trump's nominee and
it's not really his history, it's not his policies. It's
Donald Trump's policies that he's going to have to end
up supporting.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Right not to be deterred, Caitlin Collins asks Bud about
rfk's controversial opinion on you're ready for this the pork industry,
And I'm glad you.

Speaker 13 (11:01):
Bring up the agricultural industry in North Carolina because the
pork production is one of your biggest things. I mean,
but I believe North Carolina is like the number third
state on that matter.

Speaker 9 (11:11):
At least give us a number two when you ask.

Speaker 13 (11:13):
Him, well, I think it's Iowa and Minnesota are the
two above you. Unless the numbers have changed, we'll see.
But on that, you know, RFA is someone who once
told people in Iowa that hog producers are the greatest
thart to the US and US democracy, greater than Osama
bin lauded. I mean, are you going to ask him
if he still hold zap you given of course, how
much it matters to your voters.

Speaker 9 (11:33):
We're going to have that conversation.

Speaker 12 (11:35):
And again, I'm very protective of agriculture in North Carolina.
But it's not rfk's policies. It's going to be Donald
Trump's policies. And if you look at his first term
as the forty fifth president of the US, he.

Speaker 9 (11:46):
Was very supportive of agriculture.

Speaker 12 (11:47):
I was there with him in Ashville when he during COVID,
when he supported agriculture. So he has been consistently from
day one of January twentieth of twenty seventeen all the
way until now, very supportive of agriculture. I know that
he's going to continue to be, so we don't have
to continue we don't have to guess about his policies.
He's going to be pro agriculture.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Nobody in the media has cared this much about pork
since less Nessamond, but Caitlin Collins asked one more time.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
She's very concerned about the pork.

Speaker 13 (12:20):
But the cabinet obviously has deep influenced I mean, you've
seen these cabinet meetings, especially with Trump, they going for hours.
He listens to RFK Junior and clearly is very influenced
by him, as he himself has talked about their conversations,
so you're not worried that any of his views on
this industry could influence how Trump governs.

Speaker 12 (12:39):
We asked the questions and then we say, you know,
at the end of the day, it's going to be
Donald J. Trump's policies, which are proven already, and how
much in alignment with you with Donald Trump are you
going to be?

Speaker 9 (12:48):
And I expect it's going to be one hundred percent.

Speaker 12 (12:50):
We've already seen them clarify some previous thinking, not just
Bobby Kennedy, but others that are going to be clarifying
previous positions to say that they're in alignment with Donald J.

Speaker 9 (12:59):
Trump.

Speaker 13 (13:00):
Yeah. I just think on the hog farmers thing especially.
I mean, he once implied in your state that every
public official there was corrupted by the poor industry. And
given how much it matters, are you going to ask
him about that?

Speaker 9 (13:15):
We'll ask him all the questions.

Speaker 12 (13:17):
I don't pull any punches in these meetings. We have
great discussions, but at the end of the day, it's
Donald J. Trump's policies, and he deserves the policies to
be foot forth.

Speaker 9 (13:25):
He deserves the candidates.

Speaker 12 (13:26):
That he's nominated for them to be confirmed, and I
believe they won't be confirmed.

Speaker 13 (13:31):
So there's nothing he could say that would change your
mind on how you're going to vote on him.

Speaker 12 (13:34):
Essentially, I fully expect that he's going to be on
board with Donald J. Trump's policies, and those are the
policies that he's going to support over the next four years.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
MSNBC's Larry O'Donnell takes it a step further and calls RFK.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Junior an uneducated buffoon.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
You can like or not like RFK Junior, but I
think that, Laurence o'donald is about the dumbest thing you've
ever said.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Now, when I asked about the polio vaccine and Senate hallways,
Robert Kennedy Junior says.

Speaker 10 (14:08):
This, mister Kenny, what's your position on the polio vaccine?

Speaker 9 (14:13):
You got that?

Speaker 13 (14:15):
Do you mind repeating what you said previously about the
polio vaccine?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Do you support it?

Speaker 7 (14:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (14:21):
That's hard. It is.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Here is what Robert Kennedy said about the polio vaccine
last year.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
There's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective
in fact big words. What about Can we talk about
the police here's the here's the problem. Yes, well, yeah,
here's the problem. Ninety eight million people who got that
vaccine in my generation got it, and now you've had
this explosion of soft tissue cancers in our generation that

(14:51):
kill many, many, many, many many more people than polio
ever did. So if you say to me that the
you know, the polio vaccine was effective against polio, I'm
gonna say yes.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
If I say, if you Sai enemy.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Did it kill more people? That did cause more deathIn
I've heard, I would say I don't know, because we
don't have the data on that.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
That uneducated buffoon did not take a single pre med
science course in college. He could never get through organic
chemistry or inorganic chemistry. And in the class I was
in with him in college, he could not keep his
eyes open. I did not know then that he was

(15:32):
a heroin addict every day he was in college. He
has said he was a heroin addict for fourteen years.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh who Hunter Biden was a victim when he was
a heroin addict while his dad was president, while he
was taking money from Ukraine and China.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
He was a victim. How he had an addiction?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
How dare you criticize him, But RFK Junior, who's been
very honest about addictions he had much younger in life.
But did you notice what he said there? He's a
buffoon because he doesn't have a medical degree. You see,
the only people who can have an opinion on something

(16:22):
are the experts. It's very important you understand. There are
the experts who followed the conformity, the conventional.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Don't you dare question it? The Michael Berry Show, Michael Berry.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Show, they're all claiming that Trump or Pete Haig said
everybody else or cash matel They're all idiots. They're not
experts like Anthony Fauci. They're not experts like Jacqueline Burks.
They're not experts like the experts the state. They're idiots

(17:03):
and buffoons and silly. You can't know anything about anything
unless you have the governmental position and the college degree.
I have two good friends who are billionaires. Neither one
of them finished a college class. They both are self made,

(17:26):
very successful billionaires who have lots and lots and lots
of people working for them with college degrees. Are they
idiots for having created billions in revenues and thousands of jobs?
Because what can they know about the traffic industry, or

(17:51):
the casino industry, or the restaurant industry or hospitality because
they don't have a degree in it. I want to
go back to Larry O'Donnell's statement. This is a longer
clip than I would normally play, but him calling RFK Jr.
A buffoon because they were in college together, an RFK

(18:15):
jor wasn't paying attention. Do you know how many highly
successful do you know that Steve Jobs dropped out of college?
I mean, for that matter, Zuckerbar did. Steve Job is
one of the brightest people to ever walk the earth,
built the most amazing company, dropped out of, by the way,
a second tier college. Do you know how many other

(18:36):
people did you sound so silly saying things like this?
Lawrence O'Donnell, what a clown?

Speaker 9 (18:46):
Now?

Speaker 5 (18:47):
When asked about the polio vaccine and Senate hallways, Robert
Kennedy Jr.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Says this, mister Kenny, what's your position on the polio vaccine?

Speaker 9 (19:00):
Repeating what you said previously about the polio vaccine? Do
you support it? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (19:05):
So s hard it is.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Here's what Robert Kennedy said about the polio vaccine last year.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
There's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective
in fact big words. Can we talk about the police.
Here's the problem, here's the problem. Yes, well, yeah, here's
the problem. Ninety eight million people who got that vaccine
in my generation got it, and now you've had this
explosion of soft tissue cancers in our generation that kill many, many, many,

(19:36):
many many more people than polio ever did. So if
you say to me that the you know, the polio
vaccine was effective against polio, I'm going to say yes.
If I say, if you said to me, did it
kill more people? That did cause more deatin ef heard,
I would say I don't know, because we don't have
the data on that.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
That uneducated buffoon did not take a single pre med
science course in college. He could never get through organic
chemistry or inorganic chemistry. And in the class I was
in with him in college, he could not keep.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
His eyes open.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
I did not know then that he was a heroin
addict every day he was in college. He has said
he was a heroin addict for fourteen years. And while
he was a heroin addict, his powerful uncle, Senator Ted Kennedy,
managed to get him a job in the Manhattan District
Attorney's office, and while he was working for the Manhattan

(20:34):
District Attorney's Office, he was committing drug crimes every day
for which he was finally arrested, charged, and convicted. And
that is who Donald Trump wants to be Secretary of
Health and Human Services, A science ignoramus who was in
a Heroin stupor every day that he could have.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Been studying science in college.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
It is no surprise that the heroinautics convicted criminal turned
self described medical expert does not have the votes yet
to be confirmed by the United States side.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's the same Lawrence O'Donnell that every night is holding
forth on Ukraine when he never worked at the State
Department or got a degree in diplomacy healthcare. When he
also doesn't know what he's doing. I mean, these people,
they really are. I mean, it's amazing. CNN's Daniel Dale

(21:38):
and Dana Bash discussed President Trump's recent press conference, which
they say was riddled with lies.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Riddled with lies.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Pay attention very carefully to what both of them think.
The quote most dangerous lie is listen very carefully.

Speaker 10 (21:58):
So there was a lot of lying from the President
elect at this press conference. But I think the most
dangerous part was an equivocation. It wasn't really a claim,
but he was asked whether he thought there is a
link between vaccines and autism.

Speaker 9 (22:11):
And he equivocated.

Speaker 10 (22:12):
He said, well, we have some brilliant people looking at this,
and he talked about the increased prevalence of autism diagnosis diagnoses. Look,
there is no link between vaccines and autism. This notion
has been discredited by study after study over decades. The
idea that there is some connection came from a thoroughly discredited,
in fact scandalous, fraudulently altered study in the nineteen nineties

(22:35):
that should just be ignored, dismiss again because it was fraudulent.
And so the idea that, wow, we're just going to
look into this, I think is dangerous to consider because
the idea is simply wrong. I'll pivot to some other topics.
He talked as usual about tariffs, said, under his first presidency,
we took in hundreds of billions of dollars from China.

(22:55):
That money was paid by Americans. It is American importers
who pay the terrorists, not Chinese exporters, and many of
those importers passed along the costs to US consumers. He said,
no previous president had tariffs on China. That's wrong. He
said there was no inflation under his own presidency despite
the tariffs, certainly lower than during the Biden presidency, but
there was eight percent cumulative inflation during his presidency, so

(23:18):
not nothing. In talking about health, he also said, oh,
Europe has lower mortality than us, or better mortality, and
they don't use pesticides.

Speaker 9 (23:26):
Europe used this hundreds of.

Speaker 10 (23:27):
Thousands of tons of pesticides every year, So I'm not
sure where he got that idea. And earlier in the
press conference standa, he said over and over, I think
three times that during his presidency there were no wars,
like no wars period in the world.

Speaker 9 (23:40):
That is simply not true. A rewriting of history.

Speaker 10 (23:42):
One research institution said there were active armed conflicts in
about fifty states in twenty twenty, including of course civil
wars in Yemen, in Syria and Somalia. We had an
active Israeli Palestinian conflict. US troops deployed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria,
and elsewhere. So the idea that this was a world
left by Donald Trump to Joe Biden simply not true.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Okay, well, thank you for all that, And I just
want to underscore where you and I started our conversation, Daniel,
which is on the suggestion that it is possible that
autism is caused by vaccines. As you said, there was
a nineteen ninety eight study that has been completely discredited.

(24:24):
There have been rigorous peer reviewed studies that have not
that are credible, including some that analyze more than a
million children, that have shown there is no link between
autism and vaccines. Thank you so much for that.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
We will see we will see, Dana bash and will
you come out and admit to it?

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Then they never do. You've got the Michael Berry Show show.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand was on CNN when she was asked
if she I would vote for fellow New Yorker RFK
Junior or answer for this scion of the Kennedy dynasty
was not the answer they wanted or expected.

Speaker 11 (25:17):
Oh, are you willing to consider voting to confirm RFK
Junior to be head of HHS.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
Well, I'm going to look at his full record obviously. Again,
as a parent, we want to make sure our children
are safe. We want to make sure parents have the
right to know that when kids go to school, they are.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
Going to be safe and have access to vaccines and.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Access to healthcare.

Speaker 8 (25:36):
So that's very important to me. But OURFK Junior has
also spoke about food safety issues.

Speaker 9 (25:42):
Which I care a lot about.

Speaker 8 (25:43):
I sit on an agriculture committee testing food, particularly food
that goes into our school systems. We do very little
food testing, very small percentage of food that comes into
this country's tested, and so I appreciate some of his
views there. I also appreciate some of his views.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
On clean air and clean water.

Speaker 9 (26:01):
He used to run an organization in New.

Speaker 8 (26:03):
York called river Keeper, a pre eminent environmental organization trying
to clean up the Hudson River and trying to protect
people who live along the Hudson and from toxins in
the environment. So I think there's a great deal of
issues where we might find we may find common ground
on with mister Kennedy, and I look forward to exploring

(26:23):
those before I decide how I'm going to vote.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Well, you're supposed to say he's dangerous and a buffoon
and awful.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
That's what you were supposed to.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
MSNBC is so determined to try to keep the Trump
cabinet picks from serving our country, Pete Hegseeth.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Oh, they don't want Pete hegg Seth.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
MSNBC cherry picked passages from his book to make it
seem like he's calling for a civil war. No, that's
what BLM did, and Kamala Harris supported getting them out
of prison so they could do more of it.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Well, but you didn't have a problem with that, did you.

Speaker 11 (27:08):
The New Republic outlines heg Seth's prediction that the military
may have to mobilize against US citizens in a civil
war that comes from his twenty twenty book American Crusade.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
In it, HeiG Seth.

Speaker 11 (27:22):
Rights, America will decline and die. A national divorce will ensue.
Outnumbered freedom lovers will fight back. The military and police
both bastions of freedom loving patriots will be forced to
make a choice.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
It will not be good.

Speaker 11 (27:40):
Yes, there will will be some form of civil war.
In another section, HeiG Seth rights that our present moment
is much like the eleventh century. We do not want
to fight, but like our fellow Christians one thousand years ago,
we must arm yourself metaphorically, intellectually, physically. Our fight is

(28:04):
not with guns.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yet I say things like that every day, every day,
and I believe it to be true. Senator Chris Murphy,
a goofball Democrat, was on MSNBC when he said it
was heartbreaking that there aren't three or four Republicans willing
to go to President Trump and tell him that his

(28:29):
candidates aren't qualified.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
You see this issue of being qualified. You got to
have the right degrees. This is what the state does.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
They control the credentials you got to It's called credentialism.
You got to have the credentials to get to be
part of the process. And if you don't play the
game and have the credentials, then we won't let you
be part of the process. That's how we control you.

Speaker 11 (28:59):
Kensley, watch your hearing from your Republican counterparts in reaction
to the choice of Pete heg Seth, Chelsea Gabbert and
also the nomination potential of Cash Btel for FBI.

Speaker 14 (29:10):
I mean, it's heartbreaking to think that there aren't three
or four Republicans who are willing to go to President
Trump and tell him that there is someone else in
this country who is more qualified to run the Department
of Defense than Pete Hegseth. I think they will rue
the day that they put Pambondi in his attorney general
and Cash Battel as Director of the FBI. They have

(29:35):
essentially signaled the end of independent federal law enforcement over
the next four years. That may end up in the
targeting of Democrats, targeting of media that's friendly to democrats.
But once law enforcement is an independent, it's hard to
put that genie back in the bottle.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah,
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