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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Verry Show is on the air. It's Charlie from
BlackBerry's Mother. I can feel a good one coming on.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's the Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
But a week it's been, my friends, what a week
it has been.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
I hope you are loving this moment, and I hope
you're choosing to focus on the good. God one Kamala
Harris losing her Secret Service protection as her book fails,
fantastically illegal aliens being deported, good things are happening, a wonderful,

(00:57):
wonderful Habinet meeting, the seventh seven months, all of it
televised this week. Quick programming note, this weekend we will
be recording a number of podcasts for your Bonus podcast.
These will not be shows that have aired already, and
one of the inspirations for that is that we have

(01:18):
not yet had a chance to get to enough of
what happened this week at the cabinet meeting with each
individual department and what they're doing. And we'll talk about
a lot of that on the show this evening, but
there is so much that I know we're not going
to get to that we will roll that over to
this weekend. So this weekend, if you are cleaning out

(01:42):
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(02:03):
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Speaker 1 (02:41):
We hope you enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's growing dramatically by the day, and it gives you
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And yes I do read them all, but no I
don't respond to them all.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I can't. With that being said, we love.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
To watch Tim Walls make a fool of himself, and
we love to watch Gavin Newsom make a fool of himself.
So what he's been doing for the last couple of weeks.
As the mayor of Baltimore, Uriel Bowser, who's no Trump fan,
comes out and says, thank you Governor Trump for sending
in the National Guard, because she has to look like

(03:16):
she supports it now that they haven't had a murder
in over two weeks. And as the governor of Maryland
now says, okay, all right, mister President, could you send
the National Guard into Baltimore. I admit it, we need it. Well,
there's old Gavin Newsom. He's running against these folks in
the Democrat primary, so he's got to do something different.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
He's got to.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Keep saying that Trump needs to not send in the
National Guard because that's awful. It's a police state. Let
the local police do their jobs even though they're outgunned
and outmanned. Well, what does he do. Now he comes
out and says, oh, well, we don't want the National Guard,
but I'm sending in the California Highway Patrol.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
You've got to be kidding me. I've got my own
National Guard. Those you know put John and.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
They're they're running, uh, they're writing tickets on the Pacific
Coast Highway and I'm gonna send them in.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm gonna send them in and they're gonna write tickets.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I'm a tough guy too, I've got the California Highway Patrol. Really,
Erica Strada is gonna show up with a tooth peet
in his mouth, one of those big gliders. You think
that's gonna scare anybody. I like to imagine Trump sending
in the National Guard to DC and how scared people
were compared to Gavin Newsom's goons going into San Francisco

(04:37):
and getting laughed at.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Tonight on a special edition of Cops d C.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Trump's cracking down on crime and.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's working in the name of Tall J. Trump stuff.
Right there, you fall under arrest, damn man Trump and
his national guy.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
I've hurting my looting game now.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I thought this is America. Steal what you want isn't
that like one of those commitments or something. Let's book
him for stupidity. While in California it's a whole different story.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
Stop right there, and then Gavin knew something with a
California High Patrol.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Then you're in big trouble, mister Robert Gavin. What do
you guys?

Speaker 7 (05:10):
Kill me?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Police Academy twelve?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Give me a watch two time Manne again, and you're.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Not taking candy prob.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Oh, good times, friends, good times now to get us
started as we always do. Courtesy of the greatest executive
producer in all the land, Chatticoni Nakanishi, you'll reagive me.

Speaker 8 (05:35):
You.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Let's just take a moment and think about your best
peanut butter moment for pure versatility of application, ability to
make anything it touches better, and shelf life.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't know that there's anything better that comes in
a bottle. I really don't. I really don't.

Speaker 9 (05:57):
Cracker Barrel suffering yet another loss, the populace Southern style
restaurant chaincatching heat from customers.

Speaker 10 (06:02):
Overhauling the iconic logo missing Uncle Herschel, the man in
overalls who's been a fixture since the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
Cracker Barrel is acknowledging mistakes and rolling out its rebranding
campaign that has sparked a fierce public backlash.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Cracker Barrel, they have gone back to the old logo.
They listened to you, the customer, wock, we won?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
What did you win? Exactly? You think you won?

Speaker 5 (06:27):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, no, no, you didn't win.

Speaker 11 (06:30):
Charges have been filed against a door Dash customer for
smashing a driver's car last month because she did not
get her chicken wing.

Speaker 10 (06:37):
This a suv sustained ten thousand dollars worth of damage
all over a failed delivery?

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Are you serious?

Speaker 9 (06:44):
Just came over here and destroying my car over ten
chicken wings that didn't even have women.

Speaker 10 (06:49):
Pep Park for record, Saint Morris saw Jones strike her
vehicle repeatedly with a tire iron, smashing her windows.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
We're my way, dad, Oh hay him out?

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Who bing?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
No, no, no clues.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
The proceedings the Court of impeachment is hereby dissolved.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Mister Michael Varry. Well it's not about desert.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Perhaps are all up?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
You know what happened with the Trantifa shooting in Mogadishu,
Minnesota really really exposed recently what the view of Christians
is by people in the media, be they Jews, Muslims, secularists,

(07:31):
or other worshipers of statism, Because there are a lot
of people who tell you that they're atheist or agnostic,
they don't have an organized religion, but their religion is statism.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I'm assuming that's what Jen Psaki is.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
She was sobbing on MSNBC about people offering thoughts and
prayers after the shooting and how recognizing the shooter being
transgender shifts the focus off of gun.

Speaker 12 (08:00):
And all they should be hoping to do is have
someone to sit with at lunch or someone to play with.

Speaker 9 (08:05):
All the playground and they should be waiting to hear.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
And update when they get home.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
And that is not what these parents of the school
experience today.

Speaker 9 (08:15):
Sorry, this is a tough one.

Speaker 12 (08:17):
Having your child killed while they are sitting in a
pueue for a morning prayer service is not what any
parents should have to worry about. And I have felt
a mixture of anger and a lot of anger and
emotional exhaustion about this today is I'm sure many of
you have because we have been here so many times,
so many times, and yet again, like clockwork.

Speaker 9 (08:38):
Half of the politicians in our country have little more
to offer than thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
That is all they are offering us all join all
of us and praying for the victims.

Speaker 9 (08:47):
Was Vice President Jadievance's response today.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's what he said.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (08:51):
Please join me in praying for everyone involved. Trump wrote,
we have seen this play out over and over again.
There is a shooting, then coome the thoughts, and and
then comes the attempt to shift the focus. This is
what always happens. You're going to start seeing narratives. You're
already seeing them. They're already out there about how the
shooter was trans. You're going to see narratives about how
the shooter appeared to be anti Trump and anti Semitic

(09:13):
and clearly was in the midst of a mental health crisis,
there's no.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Question about that. But here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
There are trans people all over the world.

Speaker 9 (09:22):
They're anti Semitic people, unfortunately, all over the world, and
people filled with plenty of political hate all over the world.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
And mental health.

Speaker 9 (09:31):
Issues are not unique to the United States, and yes,
we should do more to address them, but it's also
an issue all over the world. But this is the
only country where shootings like this this would happened this often.
The United States not only has the highest rate of
gun violence of any country in the world, it's become
a leading cause of death for young people and teenagers
in this country. That should make everybody angry. Weaponizing the

(09:55):
shooter's identity is meant to distract from what matters. That
is what they are doing, trying to distract from w
it matters.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Here's what matters.

Speaker 9 (10:01):
Ciday's shooter bought the what rafel handgun and shotgun they
used to do what they did today. Legally, we live
in a country with more guns than people, where there
are not universal background checks, they're not bands on assault weapons,
and it.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Is far too easy to buy a gun.

Speaker 9 (10:14):
It's the guns, everyone, It's not really a secret.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
The guns didn't kill the people in Mogadishu. The Trantifa
member did. There were lots of guns present, police officers
and citizens, and they didn't kill anyone. This distraction toward
guns is a sickness and we won't tolerate it. I
am strapped at all times and always will be. And

(10:41):
when one of their democrats comes and tries to harm
me or my family, I will unload on them, and
if every single American took that approach, a lot of
things would change. Do not let yourself be a victim.
Do not let your church be a victim. Do not
let your workplace be a victim. Minneapolis Police Chief Moga

(11:06):
Theishue Democrat Brian o'harris as they have no motive why
this transgender man would shoot up a Catholic church.

Speaker 11 (11:14):
So the question was on a possible motive and a
relationship to the church or to the school. I have
no information to share on a motive other than saying
again that there was some sort of manifesto that was
time to come out on YouTube. It's been taken down
and our investigators are going through that to try and

(11:35):
develop a motive from that. Additionally, there are these three
search warrants. Is happening in residential locations, and we may
very well find more information or writings that could give
some sense to that, but we don't have that now,
and I cannot confirm a relationship between the suspect or
his family and this church at this time, but that's

(11:55):
obviously something we're looking very closely at.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
He said that after the Herds journals, we're already being
broadcast full of anti Christian, anti God, anti Trump writings.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
We have no idea how come him to do this?
Yeah you do, he told you, MSNBC said.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
The shooter wrote about a lot of things, but we
won't get into the details.

Speaker 13 (12:23):
We're still trying to get a better handle on. We're
still going through the videos and going through the writings.
So just to describe it to folks their YouTube videos
where there's a number of either journals or they look
like journals, where there's a number of writings, not all
of them in the English language, of some sort of
Eastern European language that's used. Some of it is in English,

(12:44):
and this individual's writing about a whole host of things.
Won't get into all the particular details. As we stated
last hour, we're not here to do the bidding of
this individual so that we can basically put out the
information they were hoping to gain out of this shooting.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Wait, but why won't you get into the details.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
The details are him saying exactly why he's about to
do what he's about to do. He shot up a
church full of children. I will tell you with the
legal background, your mental state and intention speaks directly to
your culpability, and he gave it to us. He handed

(13:24):
it to us on a platter. His journals are full
of anti Christian, anti God ramblings. This next clip is
of a former FBI agent on MSNBC. We tried to
identify her, but we weren't able to find her name,

(13:44):
and they I don't think.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
They ever gave it. We dug and dug. Listen to her.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
We actually work really hard when we play audio to
tell you who that person is. Of the main reason being,
if you want to learn more about that person, Hey,
that person said something really ste I want to find
out if they have a bias and why they have
a bias, or if you say that was really good quote,
let me go see what else that person said. But
we think there's a certain integrity even if it takes

(14:11):
some effort in tracking down who this is. And we
can't find this woman's name, so my apologies. Listen to
her offer expertise on how to identify if someone could
be heading down a dark road. One of the ways
is that they change their appearance. Huh, you mean, like
from a man to a woman.

Speaker 13 (14:31):
We're still trying to get a better handle on We're
still going through the videos and going through the writings,
So just to describe it to folks their YouTube videos
where there's a number of either journals or they look
like journals, where there's a number of writings, not all
of them in the English language of some sort of
Eastern European language that's used. Some of it is in English,

(14:51):
and this individual's writing about a whole host of things
won't get into all the particular details. As we stated
last hour, we're not here to do the bidding of
this individuals that we can basically put out the information
they will be going out.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
You're listening to Michael Barry's show.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's probably the best thing I heard said this week
on the matter Fox News is Jesse Waters is a
one minute thirty nine second clip. He says, the media
is really bad at pattern recognition. You know, you ever
known that that girl.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Who dates bad guys. She likes thugs that her daddy
won't like, and so she starts with the thug.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
He beats her up, and the family all gets involved,
runs him off, prosecutes him, the whole thing, and three
months later she's dating another guy just like him, and
three months later she's getting beat.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Up again, or she's pregnant for a man who has
no intention of hanging around.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Or you ever know the guy who he dates strippers
and he keeps falling for well, look at Shannon Sharp
fifty six years old with a was he fifty six,
fifty two, fifty two years old with a nineteen year
old OnlyFans model and she took him to the cleaners.

(16:15):
He lost his ESPN job, he lost his podcast deal
that was a week away of over one hundred million dollars,
lost it all over a nineteen year old girl urge control.
It's happened to better men than him throughout the course
of history. But that's your reminder. Everybody has to do
better pattern recognition. You see these pattern anyway. Jesse Waters

(16:39):
had the best thing I heard said on this aole week.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
He is bad at pattern recognition.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
We aren't just two years ago another Trends twenty something
walked into a Christian school in Nashville with a rifle
and shot three kids in three adults. They buried the
manifesto and locked down the case. We've seen trans shootings
in Colorado and in Maryland. They even shot up an
ice facility in Texas, and it seems like half of

(17:08):
Antifa's trans A couple of Theay Them just got popped
for firebombing Teslas. The mayor of Minneapolis says, you can't say.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
That anybody who is using this as an using this
as an opportunity to villainize our trans community or any
other community out there, has lost their sense of common humanity.
We should not be operating out of a place of

(17:40):
hate for anyone. We should be operating from a place
of love for our kids.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
I don't hate anyone who thinks they're trans, I feel
sorry for them, But statistically the trans population has been
prone to violence. That's not villainizing. That's reality. And if
you can't recognize reality.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
You're in danger.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
We love the American people, especially American children, and if
they're troubled and believe they're somehow a girl trapped in
a boy's.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Body, we want to get them help. We don't want
to give them hormones and operate on them.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
Society shouldn't be trying to produce more trans kids. We
shouldn't be encouraging an emotional disorder or whatever this is,
and doctors should stop profiting from it.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Jake Tappera was so concerned about getting the identity of
the shooter.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Correct. No, not that we may have the wrong person.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
He wants to make sure that we don't miss gender
the guy who just slaughtered innocent children in as they
were praying, because because Lord knows that it'd be much
worse now, wouldn't it in Minneapolis?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Start rebuting, says.

Speaker 14 (19:01):
According to court records, because there's been some confusion about
what the shooter's name was, Robin Westman's mother applied to
change your child's name in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It was at one point Robert Paul Westman.

Speaker 14 (19:14):
But since she identifies as a female and wants your
name to reflect that identification, was underage, it's now Robin.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
You've probably heard this before, but it's always fun to
laugh at the folks in the liberal media when they
start trying to be gun experts. This is C and
n's senior Justice correspondence, Evan Perez. It might be a
lot of things, but a gun expert is.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Not one of them.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
I don't even need to explain this to our audience
because you already know.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
It seemed like a rifle, he said, a semi automatic rifle.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
And it went on for several minutes.

Speaker 8 (19:52):
Right and that's an uncommon as well. These things can
shoot dozens of bullets, you know, in one trigger pull right,
and so what happens in this case is sometimes they
have enough time to reload.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
It's one of the most horrific things.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Evan Perez knows as much about guns as our own
NPR's Kyle feather Bottom.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
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Speaker 15 (20:26):
Namaste day to you. You're listening to Why Guns Are Scary.
I'm your host, Kyle feather Bottom. Today we will examine
the effect that bullets and assault bullets have on the
human body. For those of you in our listening audience
that are unfamiliar with guns. A bullet is a projectile
that is spit out of a gun's barrel or its front,

(20:47):
as it were. Handgun bullets are smaller than larger, scarier
military weapon assault bullets like those spit out by the
AR fifteen. While still dangerous, a handgun bullet will often
pass through the person that has been shot, unless, of course,
the handgut has been used by a police officer against

(21:08):
a person of color. The officer's inherent racism adds extra
power to the velocity of the bullet, turning it into
a many assault bullet, thus causing more damage than if
the bullet was used by a person of color against
another person of color. The assault bullet of a high
caliber weapon like an AR fifteen is so powerful that

(21:30):
it has the heat of molten lava. It will literally
liquefy any organ it hits. The effects on smaller humans
are much worse. Those lava bullets have been known to
vaporize an entire little person. We are nearing the end
of this violent program, so let's take a moment to

(21:50):
clear our minds of any fear that this discussion may
have caused. But first I have to remind you that
following this show, Kelly Gleeson will tell you how to
preserve root vegetables for the winner. Now, let's close our
eyes and think about whatever it is that brings you joy.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
I can't believe I waited this late in the week
to get to this, because it happened a couple days ago.
But crime has dropped dramatically in Washington, DC and everybody
knows it, and so the Democrats are panicked.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
What are they going to do?

Speaker 4 (22:31):
They can't just keep saying Trump's awful go away, don't
lower crime, so they had to do this kabuki theater
where the mayor, Muriel Bowser, who hates Trump, held a
press conference where she said how grateful she is for
an eighty seven percent reduction in carjackings.

Speaker 16 (22:48):
For carjackings, the difference between this period, this twenty day
period of this federal surge and last year represents a
eighty seven percent reduction in carjackings in Washington DC. We
know that when carjackings go down, when the use of

(23:10):
gun goes down, when homicide or robbery go down, neighborhoods
feel safer and are safer. So this surge has been
important to us for that reason.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
We're gonna add a little bit about these war houses
I know all about.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Ramon wants to know what around the world is.

Speaker 17 (23:28):
Whistling bungholes, spleens, splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, who's your dues,
who's your don'ts nips and dazers with it without the
scooter stick or one single whistling kiddy chaser.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Michael, here's one I didn't have on my media bingo card.
Joe Scarborough and political columnist Rachel Blade both agreeing that
the current Democrat stance on crime is not a winning strategy.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Trump is leaning on crime.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
What you just said, Democrats need a better a response
and fast.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
So yeah, tell us more about what you found.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Because as Ali was reporting, reporting back on what Democrats
were excited about what they've.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Done over the past six months.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
One was a Texas redistricting move that didn't do anything.
The second was Corey Booker talking for a real long
time on the Senate floor, which didn't do anything.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Let's talk about crime.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
And the first thing I always ask is, if somebody's
coming at me with an issue, how do I, you know,
take the issue away from them and we're playing it
in a stronger way.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
And you know, what's the Democrats answer to that?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
If if they're not going to be supporting more like
Bill Clinton, one hundred thousand cops on the street, what's
the Democrats.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
Response, Well, you would think if they would sort of
use the opportunity to say, look, we're not soft on crime,
using us as being soft on crime, We're not.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
We're in call for more police officers.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
We're going to call for sort of an end to
various decriminalization efforts that we've seen across the country since
the twenty twenty George Floyd protests that there was sort
of this movement to sort of back off a number
of prosecutions.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Voters have shown that they do not support.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
That movement and actually have pushed back on in democratic areas.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
Like Portland, like New York, like Chicago. So you would think.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
Democrats would sort of attack this issue that way. But
I've got to say, you're not seeing a lot of
leaders and I mean from a purely political standpoint, Donald
Trump on this issue believes he has the upper hand,
and I think you're seeing that right now. I mean,
we see a lot of Democrats talking about how, oh,
this is authoritarian, right, But look, voters don't like overtly

(25:49):
partisan power graphs, sure, but there's one thing they don't
like even more, and that is feeling unsafe in their
own neighborhoods. I mean, crime is a top issue for voters,
especially in recent years, and it traditionally favors Republicans, and
they're sort of.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Tough on crime response.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
I mean, you guys have talked about how you think
voters in New York elae crime is coming down. If
you look at polling nationwide, that is actually not the case.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
I'm not sure what day it was this week, but
CDC Director Susan Monarez was ousted by RFK Junior. This
is Fox News reporting on it.

Speaker 18 (26:25):
Health and Human Services is announcing that the director of
the CDC is out. This is just a few weeks
after she was confirmed Susan Manarez is leaving. Also, this
is on top of Reuters Now reporting that several others
at the CDC have issued their resignation letters. The reasoning
is unclear, though The New York Times is reporting it
was over differences with Secretary Kennedy on vaccine policy. Federal

(26:49):
regulators have just approved and limited COVID vaccines for Americans.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
That has also put them in odds with.

Speaker 18 (26:57):
Some doctors groups who have issued their own recommendation on
who should get COVID shots.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Listen, you're gonna make eggs. You're gonna make an omelet.
You gotta crack some eggs. If you look at if
you look at at results oriented organizations, you will notice
that firing people is part of it. Replacing people is
a major component of building and maintaining great teams. If

(27:28):
nobody's ever being fired, then there is no fear that
drives people to work harder. Now, labor union folks and
liberals in the media was saying, you fear. You shouldn't
have fear, Yes you should. You've never run anything. Fear
is a powerful motivator, the fear of being fired, the

(27:51):
fear of failure. This is why creating competition within the workplace.
I saw an interview this week. It's not in the
America's Team video on Netflix, but it was a different one,
and it was talking about the genius of Jimmy Johnson.
When Troy Aikman came into the Cowboys, he was their

(28:15):
number one pick from he'd broken his leg in Oklahoma.
Then he had gone to UCLA, of course, and the
quarterback who was already there was Steve Walsh, who had
been Jimmy Johnson's quarterback in Miami. He liked his quarterback
in Miami. But what he did, Steve Walsh said, was
pit them against each other because in that competition he

(28:38):
could find out when the game's on the line. Well,
what people don't realize, because you know about the herschel
Walker trade with Minnesota, what people don't realize is he
traded Steve Walsh, his old quarterback at Miami, to whom
he was very low. He traded him to New Orleans
ramont and he got more players out of that. In fact,

(29:00):
five years, he made fifty one trades. It wasn't just
that brilliant bombshell Minnesota trade. He traded people, he moved
them away. He wanted you in the prime of your career,
not before, not after. If he had you before, he
was molding you into the prime, but after he moved on.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
And that's what you have to do.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
And that if you're going to go in and in
less than four years make a difference to a sluggish
national bureaucracy, then you're going to have to fire some people.
Bobby Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, was on Fox News
recently and he's talking about the CDC and the trouble
the Centers for Disease Control is in and he said,

(29:46):
very clearly, as we've been saying, maybe some people shouldn't
be working there anymore.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
And I agree.

Speaker 19 (29:53):
I'm not going to comment until it be inappropriate for
me to comment.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
On a personnel issue.

Speaker 19 (30:00):
What I will say is, you know, there's President Trump
has very very ambitious hopes for what the first CDC
right now. The CDC has problems. You know, we saw
the misinformation coming out of COVID. They got the testing wrong,
they got the social distancing, the masks, the school closures

(30:26):
that did so much harm to the American people.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Today.

Speaker 19 (30:30):
On CDC's website right now they list to ten top
advance that the ten greatest advances in medical science, and
one of them is abortion, the other is another is
fluorid Asian and others vaccines. So we need to look
at the priorities of the agency. If there's really a deeply,

(30:52):
deeply embedded I would say malaise at the agency, and
we need strong leadership that we'll go in there and
that will be able to execute it on President Trump's
broad ambitions. Yeah, for this agency the gold standard science
and what it was when we were growing up, which

(31:15):
was the most respected health agency in the world.

Speaker 20 (31:18):
So this is what the attorney said when CDC Director
Susan Minarez refused to rubber stamp on scientific, reckless directives
and fire dedicated health experts. She chose to protecting the
public over serving a political agenda.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
For that she has been targeted. So she says, you
have a political agenda.

Speaker 20 (31:36):
Debord Horry, the chief medical officer, has resigned. The effectsous
Disease Director David Jennings I think has resigned as well.
Is this is this something that's caught you by surprise?
What's your reaction to people that are getting little worried?

Speaker 19 (31:51):
I think that no, it has not caught us that
surprise by a surprise. Again, I cannot comment on her
and our issues, but the agency is in trouble and
we need to fix it, and we are fixing it,
and it may be that some people should not be
working there anymore.
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