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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time. Time time, time, luck and load. Michael
darry Show is on the air. Welcome, get over here.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Ain't over smart the strongest book.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Right, No, no, no sense. Well they make your mark?
What I just signed him over to you. If you're willing,
I'd like you to make your mark.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I think the ped is one of the great
scandals of our time. The uto Ben was our was
our president. Ought to put it in a different way,
whoever operated the pen was our president.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's just not allowed. And they gave a pardon to
the Unselect Committee.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
After the Unselect many realized that that whole situation was
a hoax, that it was all therefore, including Nancy Pelosi
turning down security and all you know, turning down.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
So the Biden white House deployed an autopen to a
fix President Biden's signature to pardons, prison commutations, executive orders,
and presidential proclamations.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
The Oversight Project's research has.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Found that the Biden White House first deployed the autopen
to a fix President Biden's signature to a proclamation on
day five of his administration, and that there were at
least three different autopen signatures in use throughout rest President Biden's.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Tenure in the White House.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
In June twenty twenty two, the Biden White House began
deploying the autopen to sign clemency warrants in executive orders.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Autopen use is skyrocketed. The autopen today, as President Trump said,
the auto pen was President Joe Biden. Wasn't you remember
the line? I can't remember who spoke it. Some of
you will remember, shoot me an email through the website
Michael Berry Show. Is my website, Michael Barryshow dot com,
and it'll say send Michael an email. Those come directly

(02:06):
to me. Maybe I can catch it before the end
of the show. But somebody made the point, a prominent
host or elected official or candidate, and the point was
Joe Biden relies on what's on that teleprompter like anchorman,

(02:31):
and he reads what's on the teleprompter and he has
no idea what any of it means. It is the
ultimate example. I'm sure most of you know this, but
I'm gonna play this for those of you who already
know it because it's probably one of your favorite scenes.
I know it is mine. Ron Burgundy is the over

(02:52):
the top, cheeseball news anchor in anchorman, and he's the
throwback news anchor. You know, he's got the thick, bushy
mustache and the bright jacket and the blow dried hair
and his co anchor. She wants to go on to
the big national job. She's trying to launch herself, and

(03:13):
they get into they have a little rendezvous, a little affair,
and then she's ready to dump him and move on
and step over him. And she learns that whatever you
put on the teleprompter, he will say it. And he

(03:33):
doesn't even think anything of it. He just will say
that thing. And so this is set in San Diego,
and he's the star. I guarantee you if you're in
a big city right actually, for that matter, whatever, if
you were in a small city in Orange, we got
the Beaumont TV coverage. If you're you know, if you're

(03:54):
somewhere outside of Baton Rouge, you get Baton Rouge or
New Orleans or New York or where else. With every
city and town that has a broadcast had that cheeseball
news anchor, and that was that was anchorman. So she
plays a little trick to get him fired. She has

(04:14):
something written on the teleprompter because he will just read
it as is. That was the scene. Great story, compelling
and rich. That's going to do it for all of
us here a Channel four News. You stay classy, san Diego.
I'm On Burgundy, who.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Typed a question mark on the teleprompter for.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
The last time.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Anything you put on that prompter, Burgundy will read from the.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Entire Channel four News team. I'm Veronica Corningstone and I'm
Ron Burgundy.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
Go for yourself, san Diego.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
What in the name No, nobody comes with all my
city that way, Ron Brady his glass.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Nice work everyone, Shark broadcasts really good.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Everyone on the floor as well. Really a lot of hustle.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Bout Hello Edwards, Ron, I've got to fire you. Well,
I've got to fire you, bing Boon Bong, You're fired.
Did you even know what you just said? Oh great,
Odin Fraven, Well, if you're wondering where I went with that,
that's what Biden did. He just read the teleprompter. You know,

(05:41):
it would be bad if they handed him documents and
he just signed him and didn't know what they were,
But it wouldn't be unconstitutional. The president is required to
sign and be aware of what he's signing. But we
don't have a quiz afterwards. Hey, you just commuted the

(06:04):
sentence of fifty eight people. What are their names of
where are they from, what are their signs, and what
are they like? But he is required to sign him.
A lot of power is invested in the executive the
head of the executive branch of our country, who is
also the commander in chief of our military. George Washington

(06:29):
chose to eschew royalty a monarchy. George Washington could have
been our first king. That's what the founders wanted, this
great military leader, this man of great bearing and comportment.
But he said no, No, I'm a proud Virginian who

(06:51):
wants to return to the land after I will. I
will accept your request, and I will serve the public.
I will like Jesus washing the feet of his disciples.
I will bow before the public, and I will work
as a servant. That's where public servant comes from, of

(07:12):
the people. The people will be above me. And when
that happened, that set the stage. We are not to
be a king. We are a government of men governing
by the consent of the government. So that should mean
a lot of limited powers, and it does. But the
president has many powers, and the president and only the

(07:34):
president can carry out those powers. And the auto pen
meant that other people. This was a weekend in Bernie situation,
and President Trump's on top of it.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
We're going to discuss it the Michael Berry Show, Michael
dari Show. I can remember after the rare winds we had,
how excited rushwould get, and I was excited for our
country and what had happened. But I was separately, in
a different compartment. I was separately, uniquely and distinctly happy

(08:05):
for Rush, not just that we had won, but that
he was so happy because I genuinely believe he loved
our country so much and wanted the best for our
country to such a degree that on days like that,

(08:28):
it was just bursting out of him. It wasn't our
team beat your team. You know, the Steelers beat the
Patriots and haha you, or Steelers beat the Jets and
ha ha you, we got over on you. It's meaningful.
I think he cared about people, and I think Trump

(08:48):
is the same way. And I am not a worshiper
of famous people. I'm not a worshiper of Trump. I
was critical of him when he came into office. When
he first announced, I didn't think he was serious, but
I'm capable of seeing that I was wrong, and he
proved me wrong, and I could not be more happy.

(09:08):
The raids that are being conducted are necessary. Unfortunately, you know,
I've known a lot of people in the course of
my life who suffered debilitating addiction, dying from it, losing
their jobs, car wrecks, prison sentences, it wrecks your life,
and it's sad to watch it. If you've ever had

(09:28):
to watch it, is terrible to watch it. It is horrible,
but you learn that sometimes you have to get into
the depths of a problem where it overwhelms you for
you to be able to make the decisions necessary, to
cut relationships, to change behaviors, to forego temptation, because now

(09:51):
that temptation is not nearly as seductive as your fear
of dying, especially when you wake up in the hotel room.
I think things had to get really bad in this country,
sadly before we realized how bad it is. And I
do believe a number of Americans are watching the news

(10:11):
and they're seeing what's happening in France, particularly Paris, in England,
particularly London, and I think people are saying in Germany,
in Sweden, and I think people are saying, I've had enough.
I want it stopped. I want to live in peace
and freedom and tranquility and hopefully prosperity. But I'll settle

(10:35):
for peace and freedom, and I will not be terrorized
by the goons that the Democrats love to let run loose.
President Trump got a victory today, which is why we
started with celebration from the Supreme Court, who determined after
review to lift a halt on the raids in Los Angeles. Now,

(11:01):
whether those raids or I don't want to get too
deep into the weeds on legal issues because I'm fullyware aware,
well aware many people hate lawyers unless you need one
or have a good one, or Trump needs one has
a good one. But it's important to understand what was
at stake here. It was not a question of anything

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other than did he have the power to do that.
Many people who don't understand a legal appeal think you
get into questions like our raid's a good thing, doesn't matter,

(11:44):
did the people want it raid? Doesn't matter? Would it
be nice if someone else did the raid instead of them?
Doesn't matter? The question is by what authority does the
resident have the power to engage in such an act?

(12:07):
And the Supreme Court said, well, within that power, and
maybe we'll go into it later in the show. Yes
he may. The President has said very clearly, we are
declaring war on people who are terrorizing, be they in
a boat on the way from Venezuela to the United States,

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or be they in the city of Chicago or Los
Angeles or DC. Do you notice we don't talk about
DC crime anymore? Do you notice that there's a reason
here was Tom Holman, This is five oh seven or
mone This is Tom Holman on CNN with Jake Tapper.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
Over the weekend, President Trump is escalating his threats against
the city of Chicago. Yesterday he posted this meme that says,
I love the smell of deportations in the morning. Chicago
is about to find out why it's called the Department
of War unquote. The image based on the film Apocalypse Now,
which with Trump as the character from the movie Lieutenant

(13:10):
kil Gore. In the movie, he had just napalm the
Vietnamese village. Joining us now to discuss is the President's
borders are Tom Holman, mister Homan always good to have you.
So the governor of Illinois responded to President Trump's post.
He wrote, quote, the President of the United States is
threatening to go to war with an American city. This
is not a joke, This is not normal. Donald Trump
isn't a strong man, He's a scared man. Illinois won't

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be intimidated by a wanna be dictator.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Unquote.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
Is President Trump planning to go to war in Chicago?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Look, I think it's worth being to take out of
context and I said, we're going to war. We're going
to war the criminal cartels. We're going to war with
illegal aliens, public safety threats that rape children, that raped citizens,
that committed armed robberies, that the distributing narcotics that kill Americans.
We're at war with the criminal cartels. And Governor Prisco

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protects illegal alien public safety threats every day in that stay.
Along with Mary Johnson, we proved that. The first week
of the administration, I went to Chicago. I started an
operation there. The first day we arrested nine sexual predators,
most of them child rapists. We arrested nine members of TDA.
Several of the TDA members had a pistol, an illegal

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pistol with a switch on it, which makes that pistol
fully automatic. We arrested two illegal aliens that had a
homicide conviction. That was the first day in Chicago. So
you know President Trump and this administration, Yeah, we're at
war with the criminal cartels and those who want to
murder and rape the American citizens.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
You damn right, you know. I'm a big believer in
drawing the lines. Let's make sure we understand.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
So much.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
How many times, felas, have you gotten into an argument
with your wife and before you know it, she's criticizing
the fact that your sister was never nice to her
when y'all dated back in high school and you're in
your fifties and you're going to wait, what are we
arguing about here? I thought we were arguing about whether
I could have ten more minutes to take out the
trash because I'm waiting to see if the Steelers are

(15:11):
going to score or not. And you're talking about my
sister in high school. How did we get to that?
I think it's very important that we narrow down and
argument and a disagreement. It's very simple. Do you want
terrorists to terrorize this country? Do you want foreigners to
take the jobs of Americans who are in this country illegally.

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Do you want foreigners helped when Americans aren't. Do you
want criminals, be they black or any other race, to
beat up, stab, murder, and rape our citizens and get
away with it? That's simple. Which side are you on?
The President Trump gave a speech this morning on religious liberty,
and I am fully prepared to offend a number of

(15:54):
folks with what I'm about to say. I want to
make sure you understand before you email me, okay, that
you're offended. Okay, I'm okay if I tell you I
think Earl Campbell's the greatest running back in the history
of the NFL, because I love my love you Blue,
and you say that's offensive. I love Walter Payton or

(16:15):
OJ Simpson or Jim Brown or whoever that might Bury Sanders,
whoever that might be. I didn't say that expecting you
to like what I had to say. You tuned in,
and you should hope. I'm honest. If you never disagree

(16:35):
with the opinion of a host and you listen to
them every day, I got news for you. If two
people always agree, one of them's not necessary, and I
got more news for you if you never disagree with
a single person, I mean with a host on a
single issue, and you think that is an endorsement of

(16:58):
how great they are. It's not. That is a sign
that they are reading the wind. They are reading the
tea leaves. They are telling you what you want to hear.
So I will tell you this. I believe that there
is an attack coordinated not necessarily across the religions, but

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by other religions against Christians in this country. I believe that,
and I believe it comes from people feeling left out
if we talk about Christ or the Bible and our
faith because they're not part of it. Well, guess what

(17:44):
if I find out at the spenzel Fest in Texas
that they've been doing polka dancing last weekend and maybe
I wasn't invited, I don't get my feelings hurt. That's
what they do. If in a public gathering people want
to celebrate their family, their tradition, their alma mater, even

(18:08):
though I'm not part of any of those, that's okay.
I'm a big boy and in a pluralistic society, which
is what everybody claims they want. So you don't have
these problems in China you don't have these problems in Japan,
where you have complete homogeneity, You've got complete dominance by

(18:31):
a single race culture. And what little bit you look
at the Wigers in China, the Muslims, and how the China,
how the problems they've had there. But I want to
get back to the point here when I'm appreciative that
the President has taken up this issue, and I am

(18:51):
tired of people who I think agree with him but
are too chicken to say it publicly. If you feel
the need to say, hey, if you're Jewish and offended,
Hey if you're Muslim and offended. Hey if you're Atheist
and offended. Hey, if you're hinduing offended, I hope you're
not offended, But why are you worried whether they're offended?

(19:12):
Do you believe what you believe only as long as
no one else is offended. So if you're spending more
time worried about offending people who believe in the supremacy
of their God then you do practicing and expressing your

(19:33):
own faith, then maybe they are bigger believers than you are.
It is not your job to coddle those who do
not share your beliefs. We don't murder others for not
sharing our beliefs. Do you think there are any other
religions in the world who do. We don't rape the

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women of those who do not share our beliefs. When
we conquer their lands or defeat them on the battlefield,
we worship our God in our way. Now, there are
a number of Christians. See when Christians are in the majority,
they're very guilt ridden. They're not comfortable with this, kind

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of like the Republicans. They don't like to be in power.
They'd rather be out of power. We are better when persecuted.
But when you hear people say President Trump shouldn't talk
about the Christian faith, that's a violation of church and state.
If you ever learn anything from me ever, in the

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time that you listen for one year or one hundred,
let it be this. Everything you know about the separation
of church and state is wrong. Of the ten commandments,
the first and they're laid out in Exodus twenty and Deuteron.
I mean, I think it's four or five Deuteronomy five.

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The first commandment, thou shalt have no other gods before me. Well,
you're a white supremacist. No, I am not a white
supremacist in the sense that I'm trying to subjugate other people.
But am I proud of my people? Am I proud

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of people who look like me? Am I proud of
my heritage? Am I proud of the culture? Yes? I am.
And your attempt to make me ashamed of it that
works on other people, not on me. But here is
let me get to this quickly. The idea of the
separation of church and state did not mean that the

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church will not be involved in the state. It meant
that the state will not be involved in the church.
What happened is that the King of England was having
problems in his marriage, couldn't get what he wanted from
the pope, so he declared, I'm the King of the
Church of England, my own church. Pope begone. I'll issue

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the rulings, I'll issue the indulgences in charge for him.
So here is. Jefferson wrote a letter to the Danbury
Baptist and they were worried about this, And he says,
believing with you that religion is a matter which lies
solely between man and his God, that he owes account
to none other for his faith or his worship, that

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the legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions.
I contemplate with sovereign reverence, that act of the whole
American people which declared that their legislature should make no
law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church

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and state. What he is saying is that Congress that
in our founding documents. In that founding document, we said,
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
Congress shall not determine who is and isn't a Christian,
or a Jew, or a Hindu or Muslim. Congress shall

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make no laws relating to that, nor shall Congress prohibit
the free expression thereof. You are free to worship however
you worship, and government shall not get in the way. But,
just as every other organization APAC, the NRA, the Farmers Association,

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the Church is more than able to be a part
of our government, and our founding documents have Christian biblical
statements all over. Be not ashamed Christians any law. The
Michael Barry Show continues. The next you will hear from
Theodore Wold, former Idaho Solicitor General, just so you know

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the solicitor general. I'll tell that later. Yeah, well, Ted
Cruz was a solicitor general of Texas, was the first
public The attorney general is the individual who runs basically
the justice department for a state. In the state of Texas,

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that is obviously currently Ken Paxton, and it has been
a launching pad to governor or in the case of
John Cornyn Senator. But it's an incredibly important job, incredibly
important job. That is the person who handles the lawyers
for the state within the state. The attorney general, an

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elected position, appoints part of his team the solicitor general.
A solicitor as in no solicitors. No soliciting is asking
people at their door for money for your you know,
to buy your world's greatest chocolate or whatever else you're soliciting.
You can solicit sex. That's the legal charge for asking

(25:20):
a prostitute. I guess what twenty bucks will get you.
I don't know what the term is. But the solicitor
general is the individual who represents the state in cases
Texas versus So and So before the Supreme Court. We
can imagine how good Ted Cruz would be at that. Obviously,

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so Theodore Wold was the solicitor General for the state
of Idaho, and he was the US Assistant Attorney General.
He's currently at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.
He's a visiting fellow for Law and Technology, and in
June he's folk This happens to be an area of
expertise for him before the Senate Majority Committee about the

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Biden administration's use of the auto pin. Now you're going
to need to pay close attention to understand the full
import of what he's saying, but it's worth it.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
The US Constitution vests executive power in a single person,
the President and the founding the president exercised the executive
power through only a small group of trusted advisors and personnel.
In fact, President Washington had a four member cabinet. Today,
the president directs a leviathan executive branch with fifteen cabinet
departments and at least four million full time executive branch employees.

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The executive branch proliferation has a single source of democratic
legitimacy that, by order of the US Constitution's Article two,
the president is both elected by the American people and
vested with the executive power.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
All of it.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Traditionally, the president takes positive actions and authenticates those actions
through his signature. His signature is required for the most
significant actions he may undertake, to sign an executive order,
to take any action invested in him by the Constitution,
as in granting a pardon, and to take the most
important action of all, to sign a bill into law.

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In all these cases, the president's signature is itself the
protection of democratic principle. When the president signs, he communicates
his assent and endorsement.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Of the action he takes.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
The autopen is a device that signs the president's signature
to a document. The Oversight Project, of which I am
a board member, has discovered that the Biden White House
deployed an autopen to affix President Biden's signature to pardons,
prison commutations, executive orders, and presidential proclamations.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
The Oversight Project's research.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Has found that the Biden White House first deployed the
autopen to affix President Biden's signature to a proclamation on
day five of his administionration, and that there were at
least three different autopen signatures in use throughout rest President
Biden's tenure in the White House. In June twenty twenty two,
the Biden White House began deploying the autopen to sign

(28:12):
clemency warrants in executive orders. Autopen used skyrocketed from there.
We found that of the fifty one clemency warrants issued
during the Biden presidency, over half thirty two in total
were signed.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
With an autopen, and these.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Include some of the most controversial acts of clemency of
the Biden presidency, including death row commutations and the pre
preemptive pardons of members of the Biden family, doctor Anthony Fauci,
General Mark Milly, and more, that were issued in the
final days of the Biden presidency. We reviewed President Biden's
schedule in his publicly available media and were unable to

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find any record of President Biden's personally approving these actions,
such as a statement issued by.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
The President himself to reporters.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
In addition, we found that the Biden White House used
the autopen to affix Presidents of Biden's signature to clemency
warrants and executive orders while the President himself was in.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Washington, d C.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
For at least some of that day and thus was
presumably available to sign important executive actions.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Finally, we found.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Multiple days where President Biden we signed a bill into law,
but used an autopen to issue an executive order or
for other important executive actions.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
The Biden White House is widespread.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Use of an autopen to affix President Biden's signatures to
documents that exercise executive powers belonging solely to the president
poses significant constitutional, legal, and practical considerations. Once the president's
signature is copied and loaded into the autopin the machine
can signed documents as the president himself would to be
blunt by using the autopen, anyone can sign documents as

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the president himself. Now, to be clear, I'm not here
today to suggest.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
That the autopen is bad. It's just technology.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
I'm here today because of questions concerning President Biden's capacity
and whether the autopen was used to usurp presidential power
or to conceal the president's decline. As the sitting president's
mental acuity declined, potentially to the point of incapacitation, his
administration's expansion of the powers of the presidency raises more
questions than answers. Any investigation that this matter should focus

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not only on whether President Biden directed or authorized subordinate
staff to take action in certain instances, but whether he
had the capacity to do so at all. The twenty
fifth Amendment lays out clear procedures for what to do
when the president is incapacitated. It was carefully drafted and
informed by our nation's history. The Biden administration ignored it
all to aggrandize executive power and push the country further

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in their preferred ideological direction. It is our obligation at
this point to get to the bottom of these issues
and to ask the important question as to whether or
not the autopen and other devices were used to cover
and obscure President Biden's mental decline, undermining our national security
and also the Constitution.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
It is staggering. It's absolutely staggering. You've got the autopin
serving as the president, and whoever's running the autopin is
running the country. Remember we talked about this. If Biden's
not writing what's on the teleprompter that he's reading, then

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the real president is whoever is loading the teleprompter. Even
the autopin is thinking to itself, wait, I'm doing all
the work here.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
Autopen chronicles, daily log, dear diary. The life of an
autopen has more ups and downs than calligraphy. What a
run it was, commuting drug dealers, pardoning those low Lifehouse.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Committee members that investigated January sixth. Hell, I commuted most
of the Biden family. I did so many great things,
while geriatric Joe just napped his way through a presidency
taking all the credit. You know how many times I
had to pin a paper that was covered in jeweled
Here I go again, getting my ink all smeared over
sleeping Joe Biden. I can do anything Joe Biden can do.

(32:09):
I have a sleep mode. It just makes me so
angry that I don't get any of the credit. People
thought Joe Biden was the Wizard of Oz or something. No,
Joe was simply Oscar Diggs