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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. Michael
Verie Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Trump can't handle strong successful women.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
You can't handle women, particularly strong women.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Donald Trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women.

Speaker 5 (00:24):
We will undertake a large job and a large duty
that we have to fulfill that the American people expect
us to do by securing our border, to make sure
that our nation is a nation with borders or we're
no nation at all, and that we are making sure
that those criminal actors that are perpetuating violence in our
communities and in our cities and towns and states are

(00:47):
removed from this country. That there's consequences for breaking the
law in our country. Again, there has to be consequences,
because when Americans break the law, there's consequences.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
And that will be the priority.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
And that is one of the reasons that today the
American people have lost their trust. President Trump will build
it back and know that their federal government is accountable
to them.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I will fight.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
Every day to restore confidence and integrity to the Department
of Justice and each of its components. The partisanship, the
weaponization will be gone. America will have one tier of justice.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
In Star Trek deep Space nine, the following statement was made.
A true victory is to make your enemy see they
were wrong to oppose you in the first place, to
force them to acknowledge your greatness. A montage of President

(01:47):
Trump's biggest critics giving him credit for the Gods of
peace deal.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
It's President Mom, I'm going to write a whole post
about a peace deal. Maybe he should acknowledge the president
that broke her in.

Speaker 7 (01:59):
If this ends, Donald Trump deserves credit regardless of anything
else you feel about.

Speaker 8 (02:03):
Doctrepa really commend President Trump and his administration, as well
as Arab leaders in the region for making the commitment
to the twenty point Plan and seeing a path forward
for what's often called the Day After.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't trust Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
There's even no reason to trust Donald Trump, but I
of course work with any administration that wants to achieve
those things.

Speaker 7 (02:30):
You may not trust Donald Trump, but what has been
achieved here so far is something that was not achieved
by President Biden. With the potential end of the war
and all the hostages being turned over.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Them, should he be commended.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't think that we should hold in credit where
it's due. I commend the people who have been a
part of this process. I'd commend the qatar as, the
Egyptians and the President.

Speaker 8 (02:57):
There any message you'd like to send to President Trump
after the least of these hostages today.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
Look, I'll think, how much credit does President Trump deserved
for this deal?

Speaker 9 (03:08):
I think he should get a lot of credit. I mean,
this was his deal. He worked this out. He sent
Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner over to negotiate this, and
it's so far has gone well. Hopefully the hostages get
released here. Might not be within twenty four hours, but
certainly I think by Monday, and that's progress.

Speaker 10 (03:29):
It's a terrific day for the hostage families. It's a
terrific day for President Trump, for our national interests. You're right,
we don't know how the story ends, but stories are
made up of chapters.

Speaker 11 (03:41):
How can we all celebrate this thing? I mean, you've
had human beings held underground for over two years and
tortured and beaten and starved for us to dig their
own graves and things. Now they can finally come back home,
and now everyone everyone should be celebrating these things.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Do you give him credit for this?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
It's uncertainly, I mean this is an incredible accomplishment and
an incredible moment. You have to look at the moment
and say, just ending the war and getting the hostages home,
it's an incredible accomplishment. It was a long time coming,
to be sure, but certainly the President dove in and
was engaged on this issue in a way that right
now truly did make a difference.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
I think everyone should be able to celebrate it and listen.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Whether you like Trump or not, I think.

Speaker 7 (04:30):
He, I think Steve Wikoff and I think Jared Kushner
do deserve credit for this deal.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's an amazing juxtaposition. You've got Donald Trump jetting off
to Israel and then Egypt. You've got world leaders coming together, contentious,

(04:59):
fractious personalities and relationships, people who are always angry, always
standing with a clinched fist, threatening, this threatening, and here
we were talking about peace and if we could get
people to sit still in the area. My grandmother used

(05:21):
to say when I was young, she lived in a
little narrow trailer, and she said, could you just get
somewhere in light? Could I be running around and moving
around too much? Who's an old woman? And I was
a spastic little kid with too much energy. If we
can get them to sit still long enough, then then
now you can start doing positive things, building an economy
that give people opportunities to create wealth and improve their

(05:46):
lives and find modern conveniences and communicate and learn and
teach and explore and build. But you can't when all
you've ever known is throwing rocks or bombs. You just can't.
And you try trying to bring something decent to these people.
I'm not sure if I'm talking about the people of
Gaza or the people of Chicago. Maybe both, maybe both

(06:07):
when it comes down to it. And did you see
that Hamas and the various folks are now once they
once they stopped with the Israeli as they turned and
started shooting each other. You're seeing this executions, I mean brutal.
They've gone brutal on each other. It's almost as if
they are a violent people. Maybe he's getting some kickback
money from the car to Michael Verry show better. He's

(06:29):
got the brains of the mules.

Speaker 12 (06:31):
As Blone Roglis, who is normally the person across the
glassphrom Me has taken his parents on a week long
driving trip, and so in his absence, our creative director
Jim Mudd all our folks across trains, so anybody can
do anybody else's shops.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
And that should be the case for everybody all the time.
It should And uh so, Jim Mudd just steps in
seamless trends position. We may fire Ramon, truth be told,
We may fire him because he's not needed, but we
we we don't have a lot of diversity on the team.

(07:12):
Chad Knakanishi is half Asian, but Asian is not even
really you know, that's cheating because Asians are outperforming everybody else. Right,
we don't have anybody black. The only woman we have
who's actually on the payroll is my event coordinator slash
assistant slash scheduler, and she's white. I don't know what

(07:36):
Kunda is. What do you think Kunda is? You think
he's Italian? He's got some color to him. He could be.
He could be Hispanic, but I don't think so. It'd
be a lot of a lot of generations. You know
what I bet he is. You get these white guys
that are kind of swarthy like that. He could be
like Romanian or Hungarian, you know what I mean. Although

(07:58):
I'll tell you if you look at the hostages that
were released, they're they're they're all Safharti, not Askenaism. But
because what we normally see in the United States in
prominent positions, the kind of Woody Allen type person or
because they are usually Ashkenasim Jews, they have the Eastern

(08:21):
European look to them, and you know, the very pale skin.
The Sephardic Jews look no different than your average black haired,
dark skin, dark eyed Middle Easterner. And that is how
it's always a Sephardi Jew who is able to infiltrate

(08:44):
as the character that Borat played in by the way,
a phenomenal movie and absolutely phenomenal acting by Borack I
forget what his name, Sasha Baron Cohen, It's the role
of a lifetime and and he nailed it. I mean,
he rose to the occasion in what is a very
good movie, it's called The Spy. It's a true story

(09:08):
about an Israeli who infiltrated the top ranks that the
inner circle of Syrian politics and military and was able
to use that information to maybe save Israel or certainly
make a difference in the survival of Israel in its

(09:29):
war with Syria. But my point is you get Sephardic
Jews who do not look like what I think a
lot of people expect Jewish people to look like. They
look much more like what you would expect somebody from
Lebanon or Egypt or Iraq to look like. And looking

(09:52):
at those photos, it was amazing to me that any
of those individuals, if you passed on the street, you
would not automatically think of as being Jewish, because it
is not what whether we like it or not. Stereotypes
exist because they are the predominant right, and we don't

(10:16):
like stereotypes. We don't like that we have prejudices, but
our brains are mapped to do that. If we see
something that has the gate of a large cat, that
looks to be about one hundred and fifty pounds or more,
that appears to be charging at us from a distance,

(10:37):
even before we can tell exactly what it is or
what its intentions are, our brain does not say, well,
wait until it's close enough to you to figure out
if it intends to topple you and then eat your
face off. Our brain, the inner animal in us, It

(10:57):
is subconscious. We don't we don't think, well, should I
stand here or should I do my best to encase
this is a bad situation, to get out of harm's way.
It's fight or flight, and it happens just like that.
It's a survival technique. God gave us these things. We

(11:19):
didn't choose them well. Over a period of time, our
brain begins to map, just like the algorithm that chooses
the music for you on Spotify. You know, let's say
you're on Facebook. If you're on Facebook, and I mean
now they spy on you, But before you would notice that,

(11:41):
you would get you might get ads for quilts. And
this place has great quilts. You know how they know
I want quilts well, because you're always searching up quilts
or for me, vintage tennis shoes. I like tennis shoes
from the seventies and eighties that I wore as a kid.
Trying to find a thing by can help me out here?
Trying to find a blue pair, the royal blue, real

(12:04):
bright blue kangaroos. It said, ruse down the side, you
remember those.

Speaker 13 (12:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I had the zipper, you know, latch key. Kids put
their key in that zipper and I found I found
a purple pear, and of course I bought them. But
I'm looking for a blue pair and I can't find one.
I was told to go to eBay, so I went there.
And then I was told to go to Etsy, so
I went there. I'm not a good online shopper, but
my point is because I look up things like vintage

(12:31):
tennis shoes, I get vintage tennis shoes. So our brains
are mapped that when we see a certain group of
people that look a certain way, we assume that's what
those people are, and there is nothing wrong with that.
That is a survival technique. We have learned that when

(12:53):
it's raining outside, it's far more likely to be slick
than it would otherwise. So when it's raining, our brain says,
slowed down, put both hands on the wheel, it's very
likely going to be slick. That's based on a number
of experiences that the algorithm tells our brain to do.
That's why if you listen to one hundred country music
songs from nineteen seventy eight in a row, the one

(13:15):
hundred first is going to be a country song from
that era, because the algorithm says that's you've mapped it.
You've shown a consistence, like getting on a on a Snowski.
If you get on a Snowski. You don't even you
don't even move, You just let it. It gets in
the track of what went before you, and it just stay.
It glides on that track. But anyway, I don't know

(13:38):
if we can fire Ramonte, is my point, even though
he's not really necessary, because he's as close to diversity
as we have as That was the point, mister Michael Barry.
I got a little bit off on a tangent. But
you have to understand if you're gonna, if you're gonna
hang with us for very long. My thoughts are structured

(14:00):
when they start, but then it goes stream of consciousness,
you know, And and that is just that is to
me storytelling, enjoyable storytelling. And my brain gets to gets
to thinking about all the wonderful things in the world

(14:20):
that I want to share and interact with you and
engage with you about. And now that I have mentioned
stream of consciousness, I'm thinking about William Faulkner and his
writing style, and maybe Dorothy Richardson or James Joyce or
without a do for now. I like that meandering style

(14:41):
of storytelling. I don't view our radio program in the
traditional sense of you know, bang bang bang news story caller,
new story caller. I like the process of storytelling, and
I like the process of It's like a Jerry Clower joke.

(15:05):
It's not about the punchline at the end. It's about
the delivery and enjoying the journey. We talked our kids
from early on when we would go on driving trips.
It wasn't don't don't ask when we're going to get there.
We're on the vacation right now. While we're in the car.
We're going to do fun things. While we're in the car.
We're going to play games to spot things and remember things,

(15:26):
and trivia and history and all these different things. And
the ride itself is the vacation. Now, another phase of
the vacation is when we arrive. But all I was
going to say out of all that was that with
Ramon out, Jim is ably filling in for him. And

(15:49):
each one of us has our own areas of expertise.
Chads is Hawaiian music. I don't know if Kunda has one.
He might He might be absent in any area of expertise.
We need to find out what that is. Mine is
most everything, but especially Skinnard and Elvis and classic country,
well like we've gone for a while. Jim's Ramones, his
You two and something nineties, Jims is Van Halen's his

(16:14):
favorite band of all time, and so we have very
spirited discussions because I'm a David Lee Rothman and he
is a Van hagar Man, I think mostly, but he
still loves all of Van Halen. And so that's why
you can expect more Van Halen while Ramone is out,
because that's that's Jim's opportunity to express his inner, his

(16:38):
inner Van Halen. How about President Trump at Charlie Kirk's
Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony posthumously meaning after life, honoring
Charlie Kirk, and he said this.

Speaker 13 (16:54):
Charlie never missed an opportunity to remind us of the
Judeo Christian principles of our name founding or to share
his deep Christian faith. In his final moments, Charley testified
to the greatness of America and did the glory of
our Savior, with whom he now rests in heaven. And
he is going to make heaven. I said, I'm not
sure I could make it, but he's going to make it.

(17:18):
He's there, He's looking down on us right now. It's
so incredible. Look at this, how this turned out. This
was supposed to be so dark and cloudy. Not dark
and cloudy, is it? I look at that, How beautiful
that is. There's no artist that can can capture it
as beautiful as it is today.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Wow, it's amazing.

Speaker 13 (17:38):
As I said on the day that he was assassinated,
Charlie Kirk was a martyr for truth and for freedom,
and from Socrates to think and to Saint Peter, from
Abraham Lincoln to Martin Luther King, those who change history
the most, and he really did have always risked their

(17:59):
life for causes they were put on earth to defend.
He was put on earth to do exactly what he
was doing.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know, the life of Charlie Kirk, young as he was,
and the number of it he started so young, He
had such influence so young. You could argue it started
before he was seventeen, but at seventeen. You know, it's

(18:30):
one thing if you're the best quarterback in all of
high school football at seventeen, there's another thing if you're
the best quarterback in all of college football at seventeen,
but it's been done, or the best quarterback in all
of football doom at seventeen five, but from seventeen to

(18:55):
thirty one, almost thirty two when he passed a month.
Shot to have accomplished what he did in such a
short period of time. You know, most football players are
going to accomplish what they're going to accomplish by the
time they're thirty or at the latest thirty five, and

(19:18):
then you have to transition into something else. But so
much of it is while you have a young, nimble, flexible,
strong body. But to have made the contributions Charlie Kirk did,
that's not a young man's game. That takes years. You've

(19:39):
got to travel to events in order to deliver that speech.
You've got to have lengthy meetings to gather the money.
You have to meet with donors to gather the money
to have the ministry he had, But a ministry. It
was in a ministry it will remain. And that is

(20:00):
important to understand because when Charlie Kirk was asked how
he wants to be remembered, who asks a thirty one
year old that you start seeing these you start seeing these,
these these signs along the journey, you start seeing these,
these these hints as to something I know, I find

(20:22):
it these markers that are odd. If you ever ask
somebody when they're thirty one years old, how do you
want to be remembered? You don't. You don't, you don't
ask that. It's as if he was he was fated
for this. In any case, he did not say as
an organizer, as being politically influenced, influential. He said as

(20:45):
an evangelist. As an evangelist. I find that interesting. I
find that powerful. Fox News posted that there is a
Christian revival happening across the country. Bible sales are up
forty one point six percent, spiritual app downloads up seventy

(21:10):
nine point five percent, Christian music streams up fifty percent.
It's not that we had ten people doing it and
now we have fifteen. There were already people listening to
Christian music, there were already people using spiritual apps, there

(21:31):
were already people buying bibles. This has set off a
revival a year over year, a marginal growth the likes
of which we haven't seen in modern America. And I'll
bet you we haven't seen. I bet you'd have to
go back to Billy Graham's biggest year preaching revivals. And

(21:57):
just so you know where I stand. I can sent
to Billy Graham preach for three hours to hear him speak,
to hear his storytelling, his ministry, his evangelizing is the

(22:18):
high point of the power of the pulpit to be
a vassal for God and without criticizing. I think there
are plenty of guys who stand in the pulpit drive
Flamborghini's who are not, but that one is. And you know,
Charlie Kirk, believe it or not, I think he's in

(22:39):
that category. He is in that sense. He was an
evangelist of the greatest order. With five weeks to reflect
since Charlie Kirk's assassination, it strikes me that we have

(23:01):
really a five tool player here, the likes of which
we've never seen, with a skill set that I don't
recall seeing. I don't I can't think of anyone who
was able to evangelize among college age kids the way

(23:24):
he did. And his ability to weave his political views
as as a sort of you know how they twist
steel to make it stronger. His ability to to sort
of wrap those two in themselves, and the greatest of

(23:47):
them is love. I've gone back, I've listened to most
everything he's done that's on record that's available, not all.
I'm sure. I'm sure there's some I haven't seen, but
I've tried, and I have to tell you I no

(24:08):
longer care that people mischaracterize things because I know they're
liars or they're not aware. And I know that they
say things without knowing what they're talking about because it's
shorthand it's you know that guy's bad, he's a racist.
And I also know that I was called a racist
years ago when I first appeared to be controversial, and

(24:33):
I know that people would say things about me that
weren't true, but it wasn't that they had come to
that judgment. Listen, if you listen to me talk for
a while, I talk so much about race because it's
the big challenge in this country. I talk so much
about racist If you listen to me talk for five

(24:55):
hours and you've it appears to you that I'm a racist,
I can live with that. I don't mind that because
you looked at a portion of my body of work
and it and it evens out. And if that, if
you find that to be racist, I can that's perfectly acceptable.
That's a that's a subjective question. I don't think we

(25:17):
get to declare we are or not racist. In fact,
I think the whole concept of it's it's like it's
like having cancer. You know, you go in, you have
your test done, and you come back and you wait
on the call you have cancer or you don't, right,
And I think we do that with racism. Racism. Uh,

(25:38):
that guy's a racist, that guy is not a racist.
Well I don't even know what the word means anymore.
But if it means doesn't like black people, it's okay. Uh,
maybe it doesn't mean that. Maybe it means doesn't like

(25:59):
some black people. Well, now we're starting to get into
something that's going to capture a lot of us, aren't we.
I don't if I don't like behaviors. But if I
see a black person who's a murderer, rapist, pedophile, carjacker, mugger, thug,
drive by shooter, yeah I don't like him. Now, I

(26:20):
don't dislike him because he's black, but I don't dislike
him any less because of it. If we're actually honest,
I believe in radical honesty, and that is frightening to people.
A lot of people who say, yeah, yeah, have honesty honestly,
but within limits. What are the limits? Tell me what

(26:42):
those limits need to be. Why do we need to
have limits because you hurt people's feelings. I got to
tell you some of the worst things that happened in
this Dad Gilm country today are out of a fear
of hurting someone's feelings. And once people learn the power
you we if you have your feelings hurt, then all

(27:05):
of a sudden, when you're a hammer, everything looks like
a nail. You start getting your feelings hurt a lot,
because that's how you silence people. And so that's why
we have crime run rampant in inner city black neighborhoods
because no one want dare to call out what's happening,
and that black people are being murdered and terrorized in

(27:27):
their own homes because well, the hive will will attack you.
And this is where you get people on welfare and
the abuse there and the problems with illegal aliens and
the crimes they were committed. And so these people, you
get these cribbalists, who are these people that they vacillate

(27:48):
between being the victim when they need to, and then
they turn they bash you in the head or run
you over or shoot you in the neck. And so
they go from being a person that's just so upset
upset me with what you said to they'll kill you.
And I think we are entering into, we're not coming
out of. We are entering into a phase of violence

(28:11):
from the left that we have not seen in the
modern era. And when you go back to periods of
political violence, I don't mean on the streets over crack cocaine.
When you go back to political violence, we haven't seen
what we have been seeing and will continue to see
Antifa and BLM leading most of it. We haven't seen

(28:35):
that since the Black Panthers and the sixties and the
anti war protests, but those were nothing compared to what
we've seen since twenty twenty some really smart people. And
when you step back and say, you know, there's been
a lot of people throughout modern history who've been criticized

(28:59):
for appearing to complement the the Nazi regime, and they're
they're because you're supposed to just say Nazi, evil, Nazi,
no good, Nazi, not smart, but people will will make
this mistake and believe that others that that that you
are talking to an audience of intellectually honest people, and

(29:21):
you never are, by the way, you never are. But
they will say things. They will. They will remark on
the efficiency of the German tank, the efficiency of the
German military, particularly early in what comes to be known
later as World War Two, or the efficiency of the Luftwaffe,

(29:42):
or for that matter, there their U tube boats, their
their command their weaponry there you name it, their bombs.
And so people will make the mistake of saying of
assuming that you can be nuanced enough to remark at

(30:03):
how well the Nazis did something and at the same
time find it deplorable. So people love to then take
that out of context and make you a Nazi. So
with this in mind, it's very hard for people to
say anything that could then later be twisted into you're

(30:25):
a racist. Nobody wants to have cancer. You either have
it or you don't. Nobody wants to be a racist,
so they just steer clear of this discussion. And all
the while, you've got black politicians and black people who've
just killed a cop or their family has been murdered
by a cop that they tried to murder, and they're
just over there just yapping back back back racism rights

(30:46):
and there's no pushback because nobody wants to push back,
because nobody wants to have cancer. Nobody wants to be
the racist. At least, if you're quiet, it's harder for
them to call you a racist. Now they just say
you have the privilege, or they say you have eat
et eRASS. But they can't print anything you've ever said.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
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