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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's that time time time, time's luck and load. The
Michael Varie Show is on the air. Well, I mean,
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November fifth feels like I got my Christmas present, America
got his Christmas present. Our new year, a new president,
a new direction. This has been the most consequential election
of my lifetime. And President Trump's not even in office yet.
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Everything is changing. They're doing away with DEI departments. It's
like people are coming clean. Zuckerberg is is begging Trump.
It's it's amazing the things that are already happening. Christopher
Ray resigning, so many wonderful things happening. Well, we had
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another one, the biggest story of the day. The ABC
network has agreed in a settlement to pay Donald Trump
fifteen million dollars plus a million dollars in his attorney's fees,
and to issue an apology for remarks made by George
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Stephanopoulos during an interview in March with Republican Congressman Nancy Mace.
What did he say that caused this this kerfuffle that
ABC was scared to death he would be deposed over
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so in preparation for a trial, there's something called called depositions,
where each side will depose the parties on the other side. Well,
what happens in that deposition will then be entered into
evidence at the trial. So Donald Trump's attorneys were scheduled
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to depose George Stephanopoulos and ABC knew that the questions
they would ask would reveal I believe ABC's bias and
the things they did behind the scenes to hurt Donald Trump,
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and who knows what else. We are entering a time
of great revelation. We're going to find out what the
FBI has been up to. On Friday, the report came
out from the Inspector General that yes, on January sixth,
the FBI had a bunch of confidentials, bunch of confidential
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sources who who they were planting around the Capitol and
sending into the Capitol and trying to get people to
tear stuff up, trying to create what they could call
an insurrection so that it would be illegal for Donald
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Trump's movement to exist. Beyond that, the FBI wasn't trying
to protect America. The FBI wasn't trying to prevent anything
bad from happening, and nothing bad would have happened had
they not dragged people into prohibited areas the whole thing's
been a scheme. The whole thing's been a scam, and
it's all being laid bare. Here is what George Nephanopolis
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said back in March in his interview with Nancy Mace.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Why are you supporting someone who's been found liable for rape? Well, actually,
what you're doing is defending a man who's been found
liable for rape, saying how you can do that? So
you're comfortable with Donald Trump being found liable for rape.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So he said multiple times that Donald Trump was found
liable for rape. And you know what, a lot of
people probably think that's true. George Stephanoppolis didn't he knew
or reasonably should have known, that Donald Trump was not
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found liable for rape. This is an important game they play.
The charge against him related to a payment that this
woman claims she received from Donald Trump years ago, and
how that payment was paid out of which account. All right,
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this is an administrative question. It was never about rape.
He was not charged with rape, He was not adjudicated
to have committed rape. It was a purely procedural case.
But when you claim that he was found liable for rape,
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now you have engaged in a terrible defamation, and ABC
knew they were in trouble. So just before George Stephanopolis
was going to be deposed by Trump's lawyers and he
would have to reveal a lot more than what he
knew and why he said that and who all was involved.
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Remember it was the ABC network that ran the debate
against him, that went so one sided against him, you
remember that. And it turned out that the head of
ABC was Kamala Harris's best friend. What were the chances?
What were the chances? And that was all going to
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be revealed. So they said, we'll settle. We'll write a
fifteen million dollar check to the Trump Presidential Library. That's
not good enough. You got to also pay all our
legal bills a million dollars. Now, mind you, ABC is
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gonna have a lot of legal bills as well, probably
far more than a million dollars. So this thing's probably
gonna end up costing them about twenty million dollars for
a statement, not just that he said it, but his
intention in doing so. You cannot simply claim that a
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person committed a crime when you know good and well
they didn't. Let's talk about George Stephanopolis and who he
is for a moment. Do you remember when he was
asked about Bill Clinton's character. Remember he was Bill Clinton's
step and fetch it. He was his little right hand minion.
He was asked about Bill Clinton's character and he insisted
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that Bill Clinton did not have a character problem. Governor
Clinton has a character problem.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But I take it that you're a line of Clinton
has no caroline of counter attack here is that it's
un well.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I mean he is he is not denied that he
has engaged in marital infidelity.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Bill Clinton's passed his character tests throughout his life and
throughout this campaign, and he's shown it through his commitments
to real fice and what he's going to do in
his campaign is focused on what's important to the American.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
People, on the jobs and the education. That's what the
American people care about. What you're going to learn when
today's show, which you may have already known, is that
George Stephanopoulos who said to Congressman Nancy Mace, you're supporting
a man who was convicted of rape. She wasn't. How
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dare you support that man? What you're going to find
out is that Hillary Clinton directed the folks around Donald
Trump to harass threaten and intimidate the women who went
on record as having been victims of Bill Clinton and
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Bill Clinton in some of those cases would end up
admitting that it was true. Oh what a tangled web
we weave when first we practiced to deceive, from Levisians
to librarians. Everyone listens to Michael Very Show. So George
Stephanopolis was an assassin for Bill Clinton. He destroyed people's characters.
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He destroyed the character of women who dared to tell
the truth about what Bill Clinton had done to them.
How on earth does Bill Clinton's flunky end up in
such a powerful position at ABC unless that was the intention, right,
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The intention was to put a Bill and Hillary partisan
so they could have incredible influence on who gets elected
and what policies are passed in this country. So I
went back to an article from twenty sixteen. June eighth,
twenty sixteen. It was written by Vice magazine and it
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was entitled Believe All Victims, a primer on Bill Clinton's
groping and rape allegations. Let me read it to you
now that Hillary Clinton's Democrat nomination for president is all
but a done deal. And mind you, in the summer
of sixteen the DNC had helped her defeat Bernie Sanders.
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Toolsey Gabbard was number two at the DNC, and she
revealed that Bernie Sanders was being targeted by the DNC,
that he was being cut off from the money, that
the Democrat National Convention, who it's just supposed to help
all the candidates, was solely helping Hillary. And that's when
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Julian Assange revealed these details about what the Democrats were
up to to try to frame Donald Trump. So this
comes at a moment when Hillary is not only about
to be the Democrat nominee, she is projected to get
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elected president. It says, it's an apt time to reflect
on what it means, what it can mean to have
her husband, Bill Clinton back in the White House. To
be sure, over the past decade, there's been a sea
change regarding public accusations of sexual misconduct against high profile men.
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Now that we find ourselves in a moment where the media,
police and lawmakers are encouraged to believe victims, first, what
are we to make of the charges against Bill Clinton? Further,
in several incidents, Hillary Clinton not only sprang to her
husband's defense but actively tried to discredit the women who
came forward. While Republicans and Trump supporters may use the
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Clinton's the bill may use the bill Clinton's sexual misconduct
as ammunition against Hillary's presidential campaign. Bill's treatment of women
and Hillary's defense of him is a topic any left
leaning voter should consider while heading into the election season.
Let's review. Rumors of affairs and sexual come ons swirled
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around Clinton during his two terms seventy nine to eighty
one and then eighty three through ninety ten ninety two
as governor of Arkansas, but the first significant bombshell to
drop publicly was during Clinton's campaign for president. In nineteen
ninety one, Jennifer Flowers, a former TV reporter, said she
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had a twelve year affair with Clinton and that he
told her to lie about the affair on his behalf
when others grew suspicious. The affair became public when Clinton,
then governor, gave Flowers a position within the state government.
Now we've gone from a morality question to an illegal question,
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a legal question. Charlotte Perry, another woman who had applied
for the position in which Flowers was installed, filed a
complaint with the state, alleging that she had been passed
over in favor of the governor's mistress, Flowers was called
before a state committee to testify on the matter. According
to sque recorded tapes later releasese by Flowers, Clinton told
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Flowers to lie to the committee and deny their relationship.
That is known in legal terms as suborning perjury, encouraging
someone to lie in a court of law. That's a crime.
According to The New York Times, Flowers sold her story
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to Star magazine for one hundred thousand dollars after Clinton
announced his bid for president. In response, Bill and Hillary
Clinton went on sixty minutes to deny the allegations. Bill
categorically denied the affair, telling Steve Croft quote that allegation
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is false. Moments later, Craft asked the question a different way,
and Clinton hedged, are you prepared tonight to say that
you've never had an extramarital affair? Croft asked, Clinton responded,
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I'm not prepared tonight to say that any married couple
should ever discuss that with anyone but themselves. I'm not
prepared to say that about anybody. The following day, Flowers
called a press conference and played the tape. Hillary Clinton
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publicly denounced Jennifer Flowers as a quote failed cabaret singer
who was questing her quote fifteen minutes of fame? What
happened to believe all women? But here's where George Stephanopolis enters.
In the article Surrogates for Clinton, James Carvill and George
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Stephanopolis went on talk shows to declare the tapes as fraudulent.
Uh oh, some of you will remember this. They said,
she's lying. Those tapes aren't legitimate. So we have tapes
of Bill Clinton telling Jennifer Flowers to lie, and they go,
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those aren't real. Yet in nineteen ninety eight, under oath
for a deposition in the Paula Jones case, Clinton admitted
to sleeping with Flowers. So when he had gone on
sixty minutes, he was lying. He was also playing games
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with words, because that's what Bill Clinton did. That depends
on what the meaning of is is. You'll recall Clinton
emerged from the Flowers scandal unscathed and went on to
win the presidency. What's more, Hillary's strong defense of her
husband gained her favorable reviews in the press and among voters. Yeah,
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the same kind of press that George Stephanopolis would end
up entering. Imagine that it played well to their home team.
But it was the nineteen ninety four sexual harassment suit
brought by Arkansas state employee Paula Jones that catalyzed a
series of events that led to Bill Clinton's impeachment. More
on that, I mean with his finger on the pulse,
The King of Team continues on the Michael Berry Show.
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They didn't want George Stephanopolis to have to answer questions
under oath. They wanted to settle this thing and make
it stop. And it goes back this this clip six
o eight rom It goes back to what George Stephanopolis
said to Congressman Nancy Mace, a Republican, earlier this year
in March, who was supporting Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Why are you supporting someone who's been found liable for rape? Well, actually,
what you're doing is defending a man who's been found
liable for rape. I don't understand how you can do that.
So you're comfortable with Donald Trump being found liable for rape?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Three times during that interview, he said that, Let's play
Chad's clip that has the full two minutes of how
she answered that question. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Then you've endorsed Donald Trump for president.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Judges and two separate juries.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
If i'd him liable for rape and for defaming the
victim of that rape, how do you score your endorsement
of Donald Trump for the testimony we just saw.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Well, I will tell you I was raped at the
age of sixteen, and any rape victam will tell you.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I've lived for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
With an incredible amount of shame over being raped. I
didn't come forward because of that judgment and shame that
I felt. And it's a shame that you will never feel, George.
And I'm not going to sit here on your show
and be asked a question meant to shame me about
another potential rape victim. I'm I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's actually not about shaming you.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's a question about it. No, you are shaming.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You've endorsed Donald Trump for president. Donald Trump has been
found liable by a jury. Donald Trump has been found
liable for defaming the victim of that rape a jury.
It's been affirmed by a judge.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
It was not at a criminal court. Case Number one,
number two, I live with shame, and you're asking me
a question about my political choices, trying to shame me
as a rape victim, and I find it disgusting and
quite frankly, Egen Carrol's comments when she did get the judgment,
joking about what she was going to buy. It doesn't
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It makes it harder for women to come forward when
they make a mockery out of rape, when they joke
about it, it's notable. I'm going to it makes it
harder when other women joke about it, and she's joked
about it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I find it offensive. And I also find it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Offensive that you're trying to shame me with this question.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'm not trying to show you. I had dealt with
this for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
You know how hard it was to tell my story
five years ago when they were doing a fetal heartbeat
bill and there were no exceptions for rape, incestra and
rape or incest in there. I had to tell my
story because no other woman was coming for no rape
victims were represented. And you're trying to shame me this morning,
and I.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Find it offensive. And this is why women won't come forward.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Women won't come forward because they're defamed by those who
perpetrate rape.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Donald they are judged and they're shame and you're trying
to show.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Me this far. I m start right, there, he says
women won't come forward when they're raped because they are
defamed by those who perpetate perpetrate rape. This is the
man who, on Bill Clinton's behalf, at Hillary Clinton's direction,
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along with James Carville, went on every talk show in
this country defaming these women who came forward. Many of
them were dug up, brought out. Let's go back to
the story as being reported by Vice. So remember we
got Jennifer Flowers, who got other women part of all this.
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So Paula Jones was working the registration desk for a
conference in Little Rock, Arkansas in nineteen ninety one. So
Bill Clinton is running for office at this point for
the nineteen ninety two election. Then Governor Bill Clinton was
speaking at this conference. Paula Jones claimed that an Arkansas
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state trooper that's going to be important, in plain clothes
approached her and quote delivered a piece of paper to
Jones with a four digit number written on it and said,
the governor would like to meet with you in this
suite number, and there was the number of the suite
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on the paper. Jones, who was a state employee making
just over six dollars an hour, was excited to meet Clinton,
and she thought it might lead to a better job. Now,
let me interject, I know what you're thinking. A woman
should never agree to go to a private meeting in
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a private hotel room with a man. It's not going
to be a job description, a job discussion. We all
know that, right, we all know what's going to happen.
Don't put yourself in that situation. I'll agree with that.
Does that mean it's okay for him to behave inappropriately
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when she enters a room? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. So
she does go to the room. Once in his hotel suite,
Paula Jones claimed that after a bit of small talk,
Clinton began to compliment her body, touch her, and try
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to kiss her. According to her lawsuit, quote, he then
approached the sofa and as he sat down, he lowered
his trousers and his underwear, exposing his erect penis and
asked Jones to kiss it. In the complaint, miss Jones
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goes on to claim that she quote became horrified and
got up immediately to leave. She described Clinton quote fondling
his penis when he said, well, I don't want to
make you do anything you don't want to do. He
then stood up and pulled up his pants. He's in
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damage protection mode at this point. As she left the room,
he looked sternly at her and said, quote, you are smart.
Let's keep this between ourselves. That's a threat. Lawyers for
Paula Jones, remember this case is slowly working its way
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through the court system, started looking for other women who
might be making similar accusations to support her case. Hey,
he did this to her, it's probably a pattern. So
at that point I'll summarize what it says here. They
start looking for someone else that he may have done
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this too. And there were rumors swirling about wanting it
to Brodrick, who said he had bit her lip and said,
here put some ice on that. She filed an affidavit
as Jane Dough number five, saying that the rumors at
the time she said were untrue. She would later come
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forward and say she was scared and they were true.
But during all of this time, George Stephanopoulos was defending
Bill Clinton on national TV and tearing these women down.
These women were failures, these women were well. He was
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saying all sorts of things about their character, and there
were ability to make a living, and all sorts of
other things, and here he was on national TV now
at ABC, the guy who had done that. That should
have been a non starter. He should have never been
allowed to anchor a powerful what was once a powerful
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national news organization. But he did. But he did, and
he tried to use that power against Nancy Mace because
tearing down women is not a problem for George Stephanopplos.
And now ABC will be spending at least sixteen million
dollars with Donald Trump because of it, from Portland through Walbeny,
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all Greek cities in between. Michael Berry Show is nationwide.
So George Stephanoppos, while interviewing Republican Nancy Mayce in March
of this year, came out and said, how can you,
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as a woman support Donald Trump who has committed rape
on a woman? How can you do that? He's been adjudicated,
he's been found liable for rape in court. Well, as
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you know, that's not true. The case against him, which
was a railroad case, but the conviction was for an
administrative procedural item as to how Jean Carroll was supposedly
paid after the fact. It was never a conviction for rape.
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They wanted you to believe that and a lot of
people did. But ABC has a standard. You cannot just
say Mitt Romney was convicted of rape, Barack Obama was
convicted of rape. John McCain was convicted of rape. You
can't just say that if it's not true. And so
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Trump knew he had them. So George Stephanopolis is getting
ready to be deposed, where he's going to have to
answer a lot of tough questions far worse than that statement.
So they offered fifteen million dollars to the Trump Presidential
Library and a million dollars to cover his lawyers. You know,
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people tend to hate lawyers. I got that. I got
two law degrees, and I know some people just don't
like lawyers. But you do understand that without lawyers to
bring this case, ABC would never be held to account.
It's bad lawyers we don't like. So George Stephanopolos, this
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is a guy who's been carrying the water for Bill Clinton,
who is a bad guy for decades. So here is
mister objective newsman, George Stephanopolis earlier this year threatening to
cut off Will Sharf. Will Sharft's going to be part
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of the Trump administration. Sharp sharp guy Scarf threatening to
cut off Trump's attorney, who's there to defend Trump, that's
his job. For claiming that Alvin Bragg's case against Trump
was politically motivated, this is what the liberal media does
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again and again and again. I don't like what you're saying,
so I'm not gonna let you say it. But I'm
defending my client. I'm saying what I believe to be true.
I'm not going to allow you to say it because
I want your opinion to be silenced, because that don't
make it go away. There is no greater, no greater
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red flag on your views then that you have to
silence people who don't agree with him. So here he is.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And of course the Attorney General in Manhattan has nothing
to do with the Department of Justice. Finally, what do
you expect from the sentencing process?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I vehemently disagree that the district attorney in New York
was not politically motivated here, and I vehemently disagree that
President Biden and his political allies aren't up to their
necks in this prosecution.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I think the fact there's no sir, sir, there's no
there's I'm not going to let you can continue to
say that there's just zero evidence of that.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Well, how about the Colangelo was standing over Alvin Bragg's
shoulder when when he announced this verdict? I mean Colangelow
is the number three official in the Boden Department of
Justice who suddenly disappears and shows up as an assistant
district attorney. Right, is Trump's case in New York starts
to proceed.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
If you want to talk about you want to talk
about political court.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Has nothing to do This has nothing to do No,
it's not. This has nothing to do with President Biden.
Do you want to answer the question about the sentencing
process or not?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I completely disagree that this has nothing to do with
President Biden with respect to sentencing. As I said before,
we're going to vigorously challenge this case on appeal. I
don't think President Trump is going to end up being
subject to any sentence whatsoever. And we look forward to
getting this case into the next court and taking this
again all the way up to the US Supreme Court
if necessary, to indicate President Trump's rights.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So you see the media do this again and again
and again, ask a question, and then when they don't
like the answer, they argue it. They argue it as
if they are a combatant in this battle. If you
criticize Joe Biden's mental state, the media themselves would argue,
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We're not going to allow you to say that, but
you would allow someone to say that Donald Trump's a rapist.
In fact, you said it yourself. Your job as a
member of the media is not to argue with the guest.
Your job is to let your guests state their case.
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If you want to have someone else on to argue
with them, fine for Your job is to ask questions
and let them answer. You know, many times over the years,
I have received emails from people who did not like
a guest that I had on the air, and I
should not have allowed that person to be on the
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air because now people heard what they had to say.
And I have said it one hundred times and I'm
gonna say one hundred more. I allow people on our
show with whom I disagree. The fact that you are
a guest on our show does not mean I endorse
one hundred percent of what you have to say, because
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this is going to be a crazy notion here. I
strongly believe that you are smart enough to tell fact
from fiction. I believe that you are smart enough to
make decisions for yourself. Many people don't believe that, including
listeners to conservative radio. Some people think you shouldn't let
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the other side on to state their opinion because somebody
might be convinced of it. Only an idiot, Only an idiot,
is that simple. In a bold move to say the least,
after we've got George Stephanopoulos saying that Donald Trump was
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a rapist and that that had been adjudicated in a
court of law that's cost sixteen million dollars to ABC
News or to ABC. Now here's MSNBC, Simone Sanders Townsend
saying that what he said, yeah, I think it seems
to hold up. The press is in a difficult position.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Everyone understands that that doesn't change the obligation to be
straightforward and objective when it comes to Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I would just say, I mean, this feels like it
has a real chilling effect. Like I mean, shout out
to the standards department. Okay, Standards is always making sure
that we are keeping the bar high and substantive, inaccurate.
But what George Stefanopolis said in that interview, I mean
it seems to hold up. And with the judge said
after the back and now he's a news organization and himself,
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Georgepanopolis himself is paying a million dollars of his own
money to the lawyers, and ABC at fifty million dollars.
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Got caught with your hand in the cookie jar. All
of them evil, evil, lacking any consistency or character. And
once you understand they will defend Bill Clinton for things
they will accuse others of that they have not done,
you realize that none of what they say do they
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actually even believe. And so with that in mind, when
they call you a rapist, when they call you a racist,
when they call you a xenophobe, or a misogynist or
an antithys, you simply ignore them. And if you feel
the need, perl insults back at this, because these people
are not to be believed, they're not to be trusted,
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they're not to be listened to. They are to be destroyed.
And sixteen million dollars of Donald Trump is well on
the way to destroying ABC. I love it.
It's that time time time, time's luck and load. The
Michael Varie Show is on the air. Well, I mean,
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November fifth feels like I got my Christmas present, America
got his Christmas present. Our new year, a new president,
a new direction. This has been the most consequential election
of my lifetime. And President Trump's not even in office yet.
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Everything is changing. They're doing away with DEI departments. It's
like people are coming clean. Zuckerberg is is begging Trump.
It's it's amazing the things that are already happening. Christopher
Ray resigning, so many wonderful things happening. Well, we had
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another one, the biggest story of the day. The ABC
network has agreed in a settlement to pay Donald Trump
fifteen million dollars plus a million dollars in his attorney's fees,
and to issue an apology for remarks made by George
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Stephanopoulos during an interview in March with Republican Congressman Nancy Mace.
What did he say that caused this this kerfuffle that
ABC was scared to death he would be deposed over
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so in preparation for a trial, there's something called called depositions,
where each side will depose the parties on the other side. Well,
what happens in that deposition will then be entered into
evidence at the trial. So Donald Trump's attorneys were scheduled
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to depose George Stephanopoulos and ABC knew that the questions
they would ask would reveal I believe ABC's bias and
the things they did behind the scenes to hurt Donald Trump,
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and who knows what else. We are entering a time
of great revelation. We're going to find out what the
FBI has been up to. On Friday, the report came
out from the Inspector General that yes, on January sixth,
the FBI had a bunch of confidentials, bunch of confidential
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sources who who they were planting around the Capitol and
sending into the Capitol and trying to get people to
tear stuff up, trying to create what they could call
an insurrection so that it would be illegal for Donald
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Trump's movement to exist. Beyond that, the FBI wasn't trying
to protect America. The FBI wasn't trying to prevent anything
bad from happening, and nothing bad would have happened had
they not dragged people into prohibited areas the whole thing's
been a scheme. The whole thing's been a scam, and
it's all being laid bare. Here is what George Nephanopolis
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said back in March in his interview with Nancy Mace.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Why are you supporting someone who's been found liable for rape? Well, actually,
what you're doing is defending a man who's been found
liable for rape, saying how you can do that? So
you're comfortable with Donald Trump being found liable for rape.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So he said multiple times that Donald Trump was found
liable for rape. And you know what, a lot of
people probably think that's true. George Stephanoppolis didn't he knew
or reasonably should have known, that Donald Trump was not
(04:27):
found liable for rape. This is an important game they play.
The charge against him related to a payment that this
woman claims she received from Donald Trump years ago, and
how that payment was paid out of which account. All right,
(04:51):
this is an administrative question. It was never about rape.
He was not charged with rape, He was not adjudicated
to have committed rape. It was a purely procedural case.
But when you claim that he was found liable for rape,
(05:15):
now you have engaged in a terrible defamation, and ABC
knew they were in trouble. So just before George Stephanopolis
was going to be deposed by Trump's lawyers and he
would have to reveal a lot more than what he
knew and why he said that and who all was involved.
(05:37):
Remember it was the ABC network that ran the debate
against him, that went so one sided against him, you
remember that. And it turned out that the head of
ABC was Kamala Harris's best friend. What were the chances?
What were the chances? And that was all going to
(05:59):
be revealed. So they said, we'll settle. We'll write a
fifteen million dollar check to the Trump Presidential Library. That's
not good enough. You got to also pay all our
legal bills a million dollars. Now, mind you, ABC is
(06:20):
gonna have a lot of legal bills as well, probably
far more than a million dollars. So this thing's probably
gonna end up costing them about twenty million dollars for
a statement, not just that he said it, but his
intention in doing so. You cannot simply claim that a
(06:41):
person committed a crime when you know good and well
they didn't. Let's talk about George Stephanopolis and who he
is for a moment. Do you remember when he was
asked about Bill Clinton's character. Remember he was Bill Clinton's
step and fetch it. He was his little right hand minion.
He was asked about Bill Clinton's character and he insisted
(07:04):
that Bill Clinton did not have a character problem. Governor
Clinton has a character problem.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But I take it that you're a line of Clinton
has no caroline of counter attack here is that it's
un well.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I mean he is he is not denied that he
has engaged in marital infidelity.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Bill Clinton's passed his character tests throughout his life and
throughout this campaign, and he's shown it through his commitments
to real fice and what he's going to do in
his campaign is focused on what's important to the American.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
People, on the jobs and the education. That's what the
American people care about. What you're going to learn when
today's show, which you may have already known, is that
George Stephanopoulos who said to Congressman Nancy Mace, you're supporting
a man who was convicted of rape. She wasn't. How
(07:49):
dare you support that man? What you're going to find
out is that Hillary Clinton directed the folks around Donald
Trump to harass threaten and intimidate the women who went
on record as having been victims of Bill Clinton and
(08:10):
Bill Clinton in some of those cases would end up
admitting that it was true. Oh what a tangled web
we weave when first we practiced to deceive, from Levisians
to librarians. Everyone listens to Michael Very Show. So George
Stephanopolis was an assassin for Bill Clinton. He destroyed people's characters.
(08:39):
He destroyed the character of women who dared to tell
the truth about what Bill Clinton had done to them.
How on earth does Bill Clinton's flunky end up in
such a powerful position at ABC unless that was the intention, right,
(09:10):
The intention was to put a Bill and Hillary partisan
so they could have incredible influence on who gets elected
and what policies are passed in this country. So I
went back to an article from twenty sixteen. June eighth,
twenty sixteen. It was written by Vice magazine and it
(09:34):
was entitled Believe All Victims, a primer on Bill Clinton's
groping and rape allegations. Let me read it to you
now that Hillary Clinton's Democrat nomination for president is all
but a done deal. And mind you, in the summer
of sixteen the DNC had helped her defeat Bernie Sanders.
(10:00):
Toolsey Gabbard was number two at the DNC, and she
revealed that Bernie Sanders was being targeted by the DNC,
that he was being cut off from the money, that
the Democrat National Convention, who it's just supposed to help
all the candidates, was solely helping Hillary. And that's when
(10:21):
Julian Assange revealed these details about what the Democrats were
up to to try to frame Donald Trump. So this
comes at a moment when Hillary is not only about
to be the Democrat nominee, she is projected to get
(10:43):
elected president. It says, it's an apt time to reflect
on what it means, what it can mean to have
her husband, Bill Clinton back in the White House. To
be sure, over the past decade, there's been a sea
change regarding public accusations of sexual misconduct against high profile men.
(11:03):
Now that we find ourselves in a moment where the media,
police and lawmakers are encouraged to believe victims, first, what
are we to make of the charges against Bill Clinton? Further,
in several incidents, Hillary Clinton not only sprang to her
husband's defense but actively tried to discredit the women who
came forward. While Republicans and Trump supporters may use the
(11:28):
Clinton's the bill may use the bill Clinton's sexual misconduct
as ammunition against Hillary's presidential campaign. Bill's treatment of women
and Hillary's defense of him is a topic any left
leaning voter should consider while heading into the election season.
Let's review. Rumors of affairs and sexual come ons swirled
(11:54):
around Clinton during his two terms seventy nine to eighty
one and then eighty three through ninety ten ninety two
as governor of Arkansas, but the first significant bombshell to
drop publicly was during Clinton's campaign for president. In nineteen
ninety one, Jennifer Flowers, a former TV reporter, said she
(12:18):
had a twelve year affair with Clinton and that he
told her to lie about the affair on his behalf
when others grew suspicious. The affair became public when Clinton,
then governor, gave Flowers a position within the state government.
Now we've gone from a morality question to an illegal question,
(12:41):
a legal question. Charlotte Perry, another woman who had applied
for the position in which Flowers was installed, filed a
complaint with the state, alleging that she had been passed
over in favor of the governor's mistress, Flowers was called
before a state committee to testify on the matter. According
to sque recorded tapes later releasese by Flowers, Clinton told
(13:04):
Flowers to lie to the committee and deny their relationship.
That is known in legal terms as suborning perjury, encouraging
someone to lie in a court of law. That's a crime.
According to The New York Times, Flowers sold her story
(13:26):
to Star magazine for one hundred thousand dollars after Clinton
announced his bid for president. In response, Bill and Hillary
Clinton went on sixty minutes to deny the allegations. Bill
categorically denied the affair, telling Steve Croft quote that allegation
(13:46):
is false. Moments later, Craft asked the question a different way,
and Clinton hedged, are you prepared tonight to say that
you've never had an extramarital affair? Croft asked, Clinton responded,
(14:07):
I'm not prepared tonight to say that any married couple
should ever discuss that with anyone but themselves. I'm not
prepared to say that about anybody. The following day, Flowers
called a press conference and played the tape. Hillary Clinton
(14:28):
publicly denounced Jennifer Flowers as a quote failed cabaret singer
who was questing her quote fifteen minutes of fame? What
happened to believe all women? But here's where George Stephanopolis enters.
In the article Surrogates for Clinton, James Carvill and George
(14:50):
Stephanopolis went on talk shows to declare the tapes as fraudulent.
Uh oh, some of you will remember this. They said,
she's lying. Those tapes aren't legitimate. So we have tapes
of Bill Clinton telling Jennifer Flowers to lie, and they go,
(15:17):
those aren't real. Yet in nineteen ninety eight, under oath
for a deposition in the Paula Jones case, Clinton admitted
to sleeping with Flowers. So when he had gone on
sixty minutes, he was lying. He was also playing games
(15:37):
with words, because that's what Bill Clinton did. That depends
on what the meaning of is is. You'll recall Clinton
emerged from the Flowers scandal unscathed and went on to
win the presidency. What's more, Hillary's strong defense of her
husband gained her favorable reviews in the press and among voters. Yeah,
(16:00):
the same kind of press that George Stephanopolis would end
up entering. Imagine that it played well to their home team.
But it was the nineteen ninety four sexual harassment suit
brought by Arkansas state employee Paula Jones that catalyzed a
series of events that led to Bill Clinton's impeachment. More
on that, I mean with his finger on the pulse,
The King of Team continues on the Michael Berry Show.
(16:24):
They didn't want George Stephanopolis to have to answer questions
under oath. They wanted to settle this thing and make
it stop. And it goes back this this clip six
o eight rom It goes back to what George Stephanopolis
said to Congressman Nancy Mace, a Republican, earlier this year
in March, who was supporting Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Why are you supporting someone who's been found liable for rape? Well, actually,
what you're doing is defending a man who's been found
liable for rape. I don't understand how you can do that.
So you're comfortable with Donald Trump being found liable for rape?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Three times during that interview, he said that, Let's play
Chad's clip that has the full two minutes of how
she answered that question. Here we go.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Then you've endorsed Donald Trump for president.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Judges and two separate juries.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
If i'd him liable for rape and for defaming the
victim of that rape, how do you score your endorsement
of Donald Trump for the testimony we just saw.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Well, I will tell you I was raped at the
age of sixteen, and any rape victam will tell you.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I've lived for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
With an incredible amount of shame over being raped. I
didn't come forward because of that judgment and shame that
I felt. And it's a shame that you will never feel, George.
And I'm not going to sit here on your show
and be asked a question meant to shame me about
another potential rape victim. I'm I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's actually not about shaming you.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's a question about it. No, you are shaming.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You've endorsed Donald Trump for president. Donald Trump has been
found liable by a jury. Donald Trump has been found
liable for defaming the victim of that rape a jury.
It's been affirmed by a judge.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
It was not at a criminal court. Case Number one,
number two, I live with shame, and you're asking me
a question about my political choices, trying to shame me
as a rape victim, and I find it disgusting and
quite frankly, Egen Carrol's comments when she did get the judgment,
joking about what she was going to buy. It doesn't
(18:22):
It makes it harder for women to come forward when
they make a mockery out of rape, when they joke
about it, it's notable. I'm going to it makes it
harder when other women joke about it, and she's joked
about it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I find it offensive. And I also find it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Offensive that you're trying to shame me with this question.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'm not trying to show you. I had dealt with
this for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
You know how hard it was to tell my story
five years ago when they were doing a fetal heartbeat
bill and there were no exceptions for rape, incestra and
rape or incest in there. I had to tell my
story because no other woman was coming for no rape
victims were represented. And you're trying to shame me this morning,
and I.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Find it offensive. And this is why women won't come forward.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Women won't come forward because they're defamed by those who
perpetrate rape.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Donald they are judged and they're shame and you're trying
to show.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Me this far. I m start right, there, he says
women won't come forward when they're raped because they are
defamed by those who perpetate perpetrate rape. This is the
man who, on Bill Clinton's behalf, at Hillary Clinton's direction,
(19:28):
along with James Carville, went on every talk show in
this country defaming these women who came forward. Many of
them were dug up, brought out. Let's go back to
the story as being reported by Vice. So remember we
got Jennifer Flowers, who got other women part of all this.
(19:52):
So Paula Jones was working the registration desk for a
conference in Little Rock, Arkansas in nineteen ninety one. So
Bill Clinton is running for office at this point for
the nineteen ninety two election. Then Governor Bill Clinton was
speaking at this conference. Paula Jones claimed that an Arkansas
(20:17):
state trooper that's going to be important, in plain clothes
approached her and quote delivered a piece of paper to
Jones with a four digit number written on it and said,
the governor would like to meet with you in this
suite number, and there was the number of the suite
(20:37):
on the paper. Jones, who was a state employee making
just over six dollars an hour, was excited to meet Clinton,
and she thought it might lead to a better job. Now,
let me interject, I know what you're thinking. A woman
should never agree to go to a private meeting in
(20:59):
a private hotel room with a man. It's not going
to be a job description, a job discussion. We all
know that, right, we all know what's going to happen.
Don't put yourself in that situation. I'll agree with that.
Does that mean it's okay for him to behave inappropriately
(21:20):
when she enters a room? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. So
she does go to the room. Once in his hotel suite,
Paula Jones claimed that after a bit of small talk,
Clinton began to compliment her body, touch her, and try
(21:42):
to kiss her. According to her lawsuit, quote, he then
approached the sofa and as he sat down, he lowered
his trousers and his underwear, exposing his erect penis and
asked Jones to kiss it. In the complaint, miss Jones
(22:05):
goes on to claim that she quote became horrified and
got up immediately to leave. She described Clinton quote fondling
his penis when he said, well, I don't want to
make you do anything you don't want to do. He
then stood up and pulled up his pants. He's in
(22:26):
damage protection mode at this point. As she left the room,
he looked sternly at her and said, quote, you are smart.
Let's keep this between ourselves. That's a threat. Lawyers for
Paula Jones, remember this case is slowly working its way
(22:49):
through the court system, started looking for other women who
might be making similar accusations to support her case. Hey,
he did this to her, it's probably a pattern. So
at that point I'll summarize what it says here. They
start looking for someone else that he may have done
(23:12):
this too. And there were rumors swirling about wanting it
to Brodrick, who said he had bit her lip and said,
here put some ice on that. She filed an affidavit
as Jane Dough number five, saying that the rumors at
the time she said were untrue. She would later come
(23:33):
forward and say she was scared and they were true.
But during all of this time, George Stephanopoulos was defending
Bill Clinton on national TV and tearing these women down.
These women were failures, these women were well. He was
(23:56):
saying all sorts of things about their character, and there
were ability to make a living, and all sorts of
other things, and here he was on national TV now
at ABC, the guy who had done that. That should
have been a non starter. He should have never been
allowed to anchor a powerful what was once a powerful
(24:20):
national news organization. But he did. But he did, and
he tried to use that power against Nancy Mace because
tearing down women is not a problem for George Stephanopplos.
And now ABC will be spending at least sixteen million
dollars with Donald Trump because of it, from Portland through Walbeny,
(24:43):
all Greek cities in between. Michael Berry Show is nationwide.
So George Stephanoppos, while interviewing Republican Nancy Mayce in March
of this year, came out and said, how can you,
(25:03):
as a woman support Donald Trump who has committed rape
on a woman? How can you do that? He's been adjudicated,
he's been found liable for rape in court. Well, as
(25:24):
you know, that's not true. The case against him, which
was a railroad case, but the conviction was for an
administrative procedural item as to how Jean Carroll was supposedly
paid after the fact. It was never a conviction for rape.
(25:45):
They wanted you to believe that and a lot of
people did. But ABC has a standard. You cannot just
say Mitt Romney was convicted of rape, Barack Obama was
convicted of rape. John McCain was convicted of rape. You
can't just say that if it's not true. And so
(26:10):
Trump knew he had them. So George Stephanopolis is getting
ready to be deposed, where he's going to have to
answer a lot of tough questions far worse than that statement.
So they offered fifteen million dollars to the Trump Presidential
Library and a million dollars to cover his lawyers. You know,
(26:34):
people tend to hate lawyers. I got that. I got
two law degrees, and I know some people just don't
like lawyers. But you do understand that without lawyers to
bring this case, ABC would never be held to account.
It's bad lawyers we don't like. So George Stephanopolos, this
(26:54):
is a guy who's been carrying the water for Bill Clinton,
who is a bad guy for decades. So here is
mister objective newsman, George Stephanopolis earlier this year threatening to
cut off Will Sharf. Will Sharft's going to be part
(27:15):
of the Trump administration. Sharp sharp guy Scarf threatening to
cut off Trump's attorney, who's there to defend Trump, that's
his job. For claiming that Alvin Bragg's case against Trump
was politically motivated, this is what the liberal media does
(27:36):
again and again and again. I don't like what you're saying,
so I'm not gonna let you say it. But I'm
defending my client. I'm saying what I believe to be true.
I'm not going to allow you to say it because
I want your opinion to be silenced, because that don't
make it go away. There is no greater, no greater
(27:58):
red flag on your views then that you have to
silence people who don't agree with him. So here he is.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
And of course the Attorney General in Manhattan has nothing
to do with the Department of Justice. Finally, what do
you expect from the sentencing process?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I vehemently disagree that the district attorney in New York
was not politically motivated here, and I vehemently disagree that
President Biden and his political allies aren't up to their
necks in this prosecution.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I think the fact there's no sir, sir, there's no
there's I'm not going to let you can continue to
say that there's just zero evidence of that.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Well, how about the Colangelo was standing over Alvin Bragg's
shoulder when when he announced this verdict? I mean Colangelow
is the number three official in the Boden Department of
Justice who suddenly disappears and shows up as an assistant
district attorney. Right, is Trump's case in New York starts
to proceed.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
If you want to talk about you want to talk
about political court.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Has nothing to do This has nothing to do No,
it's not. This has nothing to do with President Biden.
Do you want to answer the question about the sentencing
process or not?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
I completely disagree that this has nothing to do with
President Biden with respect to sentencing. As I said before,
we're going to vigorously challenge this case on appeal. I
don't think President Trump is going to end up being
subject to any sentence whatsoever. And we look forward to
getting this case into the next court and taking this
again all the way up to the US Supreme Court
if necessary, to indicate President Trump's rights.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So you see the media do this again and again
and again, ask a question, and then when they don't
like the answer, they argue it. They argue it as
if they are a combatant in this battle. If you
criticize Joe Biden's mental state, the media themselves would argue,
(29:48):
We're not going to allow you to say that, but
you would allow someone to say that Donald Trump's a rapist.
In fact, you said it yourself. Your job as a
member of the media is not to argue with the guest.
Your job is to let your guests state their case.
(30:09):
If you want to have someone else on to argue
with them, fine for Your job is to ask questions
and let them answer. You know, many times over the years,
I have received emails from people who did not like
a guest that I had on the air, and I
should not have allowed that person to be on the
(30:29):
air because now people heard what they had to say.
And I have said it one hundred times and I'm
gonna say one hundred more. I allow people on our
show with whom I disagree. The fact that you are
a guest on our show does not mean I endorse
one hundred percent of what you have to say, because
(30:52):
this is going to be a crazy notion here. I
strongly believe that you are smart enough to tell fact
from fiction. I believe that you are smart enough to
make decisions for yourself. Many people don't believe that, including
listeners to conservative radio. Some people think you shouldn't let
(31:16):
the other side on to state their opinion because somebody
might be convinced of it. Only an idiot, Only an idiot,
is that simple. In a bold move to say the least,
after we've got George Stephanopoulos saying that Donald Trump was
(31:37):
a rapist and that that had been adjudicated in a
court of law that's cost sixteen million dollars to ABC
News or to ABC. Now here's MSNBC, Simone Sanders Townsend
saying that what he said, yeah, I think it seems
to hold up. The press is in a difficult position.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Everyone understands that that doesn't change the obligation to be
straightforward and objective when it comes to Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
I would just say, I mean, this feels like it
has a real chilling effect. Like I mean, shout out
to the standards department. Okay, Standards is always making sure
that we are keeping the bar high and substantive, inaccurate.
But what George Stefanopolis said in that interview, I mean
it seems to hold up. And with the judge said
after the back and now he's a news organization and himself,
(32:26):
Georgepanopolis himself is paying a million dollars of his own
money to the lawyers, and ABC at fifty million dollars.
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Got caught with your hand in the cookie jar. All
of them evil, evil, lacking any consistency or character. And
once you understand they will defend Bill Clinton for things
they will accuse others of that they have not done,
you realize that none of what they say do they
(33:01):
actually even believe. And so with that in mind, when
they call you a rapist, when they call you a racist,
when they call you a xenophobe, or a misogynist or
an antithys, you simply ignore them. And if you feel
the need, perl insults back at this, because these people
are not to be believed, they're not to be trusted,
(33:24):
they're not to be listened to. They are to be destroyed.
And sixteen million dollars of Donald Trump is well on
the way to destroying ABC. I love it.
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