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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Varie Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Let me make this an absolute fact. The goal is
world peace. That must be our prime responsibility. We are
the leader of the free world, whether we want to
be or not, and therefore we are the only ones
that can preserve the peace.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, first of all, the Russians are already facing very
severe consequences. There's not a single sanction that's been lifted,
and not one, I mean, they're facing all the same
sanctions that have been in place today. All the American
support continues for Ukraine. And ultimately, look, if we're not
going to be able to reach an agreement here at
any point, then there are.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Going to be consequences.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
What we're trying to do right now is end the war.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
And in order to end the war, you've got to
give every opportunity that exists. You have to be open
any opportunity that exists to bring it about. And here's
the thing to remind everybody. And when the President says,
this is not our war, but let's be frank, this
is not our war. The United States is not in
a war. Ukraine is in a war, and we've been
supporting Ukraine. We happen to be in the role of
the only country in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're the only leader in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
That can actually bring put into a table to even
discuss these things. The President has traveled, you know, all
the way to Alaska all the way back, has dedicated
months and months of work him, our entire team on
this matter, because we want to see.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
An end of the war.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
But if tomorrow the war continues, life in America will
not be fundamentally altered.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
So I think that we have to understand is that
this has.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Been a priority for this president because he wants to
promote peace.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
He wants to promote the end of a war, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Think we should be happy that we have a president
that's trying to promote peace and bring a war to
an end. So he can't have a peace agreement unless
both sides give and get. You can't have a peace
agreement unless both sides make concessions. That's a fact that's
true in virtually any negotiation.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
If not, it's just called surrender.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
And neither side is going to surrender, So both sides
are going to have to make concessions. So of course
concessions were asked these negotiations. As much as everyone would
love it to be a live pay per view event,
these discussions only work best when they are conducted privately,
so we need to create space for concessions to be made.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
But of course concessions were asked.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
In a seventy two hour span, President Trump hosted Vladimir
Putin in Alaska, and then on Friday, and then on
Monday he hosted Zelenski. The most important part of those
meetings was the Putin Trump accord. And if you weed
out the leftist media bias, I think we can say

(02:44):
that the Trump Putin meeting went very well and it
gives us hope that Trump can get this deal done.
Don't just take it for me. Even some high ranking
Russian officials are hopeful.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
Dear to the Diary, Today was groyous day. I traveled
my aeroplane to American Alaska with President Putin to meet
with American Trump.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
American Trump want Russia to make peace.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
What you create blood brought gift for American Trump.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
It was a Russian doll. Big doll look like.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
Hillary Clinton having a bottom, good cheer Kato, well you
open and little dolls look like agents will make up
a Russia Hawks, the weird little doll is Obama hiding
and Chateau American Trump like it bigly after much pump
and circumstances. An American Trump talk piece, American Trump, tell

(03:43):
blood if you want peace or to rule? Very simple one,
never underrested.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Made upon the expect the unexpected.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Two be nice law.

Speaker 7 (03:55):
Ask what if Zelenski called mother Hall this is a
very bad thing to call Russian American Trump did? I said, well,
she you'll hear in the teaching break both it was
glorious day for making a leaf.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
And the US as on NBC News is Peter Alexander
reports that Trump's conversation with Zelensky and other European leaders
was productive, calling the meeting a major difference from the
last meeting Zelensky attended in the White House, that was
February twenty seventh, where he was thrown out unceremoniously.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
What the bottom line is, it's clear that these conversations
are productive.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Vladimair Zelenski.

Speaker 8 (04:41):
His first remarks were, this has been a really good
conversation that in itself is a major difference from where
we were at this time six months ago, after that
blow up inside of the West Wing and the Oval
Office between Presidents Zelenski and Trump. Significantly, after that, we
also heard from Zelenski, who had appeared to express an
open and open as to a conversation about territorial boundaries,

(05:01):
So what if any boundaries will be changed as.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
A function of this.

Speaker 8 (05:05):
On the topic of ceasefire, you and I our eyebrows
raised quickly as we saw some of the other leaders
push the president on this idea of a ceasefire. The
President has made clear he thinks they can go directly.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
To a peace deal. You'll remember the President.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
Came into that meeting with Putin saying that, hey, we
want to have a ceasefire. By the end of this
more than fourteen Ukrainians have died in the time since that.
So is a ceasefire something that they're open to, or
is there the ability to get to that peace deal
soon enough? And then finally, I think something that's particularly striking,
We should note it almost feels like they're serving for lunch,
praise and gratitude, right, a lot more thank you to

(05:40):
Donald Trump. This go around here, But at the end
of all of it, I think clearly it looks like
the President has a very condensed timeline. He wants this
to happen quickly. He mentioned the word trilat multiple times
with his takeaway from his conversations with Vladimir Putin was
basically that I believe he wants to get a deal,
whether it's for me because the personal relationship, to put

(06:00):
this to an end. He seems to believe that Putin
would be on board with some sort of an agreement.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Is there a place where these.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Two sides can meet trilaud, of course being short for trilateral,
the three parties together Trump negotiating this piece. Yes, there
was an attack since yesterday by Putin on Ukraine reports
of In any case, several folks have suggested that my

(06:28):
optimism was misplaced. I don't see an alternative to optimism.
I do think that America should withdraw our support of
Ukraine and our financial welfare checks we've been sending them.
We are paying for something that Europe can damn well
pay for and would if we would draw, absent the
United States, the javelins, the billions of dollars, I think

(06:52):
you would see a piece drawn much faster. Sometimes you
have to walk away from the table to make the
other side offer concessions.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
They otherwise would not. I think the.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
President has shown a great deal of patience to make
this happen. And yes, yes, I am hopeful that this
will happen, and I have nothing but commendation for the
way he has conducted That is absolutely true.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
The Michael Berry Show. Michael Berry Show.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
Programming Note, I am often criticized for the fact that
we're not serious. You need to be talking about serious things.
I do not generate serious for times that don't require it.
Can't always be a crisis, can't always be the most
important thing, or you don't understand how to prioritize. I
don't buy the politics as sport model. I think it's unhealthy.

(07:49):
I buy the government, do the minimal, do it right,
and get out of the way and let us live
our lives. So some folks noted last night that we
focused exclusively on Trump, Zelensky and Trump Putin. And the
reason is, when I do talk politics, it's because it's important,

(08:11):
not because Fox or anyone else is talking about it,
not because it's salacious. This is historic, significant, meaningful stuff
that is going to change the world.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
And so that's why we're focused on.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Peter Doocey of Fox News asked President Trump how much
more of the United States is willing to give to Ukraine?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
How much more is the United States willing to give Ukraine?
And President Zelenski, how much more do you want?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, I'll start off just by saying we're not giving anything.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Now we're selling weapons. This is something before.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
I guess the number is well over three hundred billion dollars.
I was under Joe Biden, a corrupt politician.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
Then Peter Doocy, who's turned into be a fantastic journalist.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
By the way, credit credit to Peter Doocy.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
He adds Zelensky, look, are you you're going to keep
sending your men to their death?

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Or are you going to redraw the maps?

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Because what's lost in all of this is the Ukrainians
are losing the war of attrition. The Americans who've pushed
for this war and who I think are personally benefiting
from it, it's not their boys being killed. It's important
that they're not telling the world that this is simply

(09:31):
a run out the clock effort by Putin. This is
what Russia does. They grind you down. They have more men.
They simply have more men, and so it's like a
chess game. A checkers game, when you go up by one,
you just trade pieces till the other guy has nothing left,
and you're the last man standing. And Zelensky cannot hold

(09:54):
on and win.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
That's just a fact. So yeah, so here's what he said.

Speaker 10 (10:02):
Thanks Lensky, are you prepared to keep sending Ukrainian troops
to their deaths for another couple of years or are
you going to agree to redraw mass?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Thank you for your questions.

Speaker 11 (10:14):
So, first of all, you know we live under easy attacks.
You know that today have been at a lot of
tacks and a lot of wounded people. And the child
was that small one one one year and a half.
So we need to stop this ward to stop Russia,
and we need support American and European papers.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
We will do our best for this.

Speaker 12 (10:38):
So and I think we show that we are strong
people and we supported the idea of the United States
of personal President Trump to stop this work, to make
a diplomatic way of finishing this war, and we are
ready for trilateral.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
That's quite a different tone than when he told us
that we would either pay for his war or we
would have to send our sons to die in it.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Hmm.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Unlike he got a little humble pie serving, didn't he
Clara mccaskell, who would have never been a Senator but
for the fact that Karl Rove destroyed Todd aken. You
remember Todd ak and the Doctor Missouri Senate race two
thousand and ten. I believe, Yeah, it was a Tea
Party year, and Todd Aiken said he was talking about

(11:27):
rape and he made a reference to the fact if
a woman says she was raped and was in fact raped, Well,
Karl Rove decided we didn't need This was pre Trump
twenty ten. He decided we didn't need Tea Party Republicans
because they wouldn't do what he wanted. Carl Rove would
rather have Republicans he could control, like Mitt Romney and

(11:48):
John McCain than Tea Party which became MAGA. He didn't
want those people. He didn't want independent voices. So he
unleashed and they made sure that Clarire mccaskell got re
elected to the Senate and Todd Aiken, who was leading
at that point in the Missouri Senate race, a true
purple state. You know, that was the seat that had
been held by Dan Forth, that had been held by

(12:10):
uh oh, what's the guy's name that was Attorney General
under Bush. He lost his election, but he ended up
becoming the attorney general anyway. Claire mccaskal went on in
twenty twelve to chair Barack Obama's presidential campaign. Well, Claire
maccaskal is a Democrat hack. So here she is on

(12:31):
MSNBC and she's very upset with that question right there,
and she says that Trump is shaping the press corps
and the questions are being asked so that the press
is pro putin. My goodness, these people, Trump is the
ultimate boogeyman. When it comes to them, Trump is worse
than global warming. It causes every problem in their lives.

Speaker 13 (12:54):
I think everybody needs to realize how Donald Trump has
shaped the people who were answering asking questions. That guy
who looked at Zelensky and said, how many people you're sending.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
You to their death?

Speaker 13 (13:07):
When everybody in America knows that it was the Lensky
that is trying to defend his people from an attack
of Russia. I mean, that guy is from.

Speaker 14 (13:16):
His right wing media shaped the press corps. So the
questions are being asked for the tone of the press
conference is throw Putin's. People need to pay attention to
what's going on. Press corps that the white it is
being skewed to propaganda.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Oh my goodness, it's just all going to hell. She's
having hot flawsies. Claire not happy. We're all pro Putin. Now,
everybody's pro putent. She doesn't like Putin. Putin bothers her.
You don't like Putin. It's rude.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Brother thand Trump called into fouction friends where.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
He disclosed, and he called Putin to set up a
meeting with Zelenski.

Speaker 9 (14:03):
They lose, They think of it five to seven thousand
a week. So even these guys, I'll say, okay, let's
meet next week. I say, you can't meet next week.
Next week you're gonna have seven thousand more dead people.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
You can't do that. You got to get this thing done.

Speaker 9 (14:16):
One of the things at the table was one of
the gentlemen who's a great guy. But he said, I
hope I didn't insult him. He said, well, let's meet
in another month or two, and let's see if we
can start, you know, making some money. He said, a
month or two, you're gonna have another forty thousand people
dead in a month or two.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
You have to do it.

Speaker 9 (14:34):
Tonight, and I did actually called President Putin and we're
trying to work out a meeting with President Zelensky. We'll
see what happens there and then if that works out.
If it works out, then I'll go to the Trilath
and close it up.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
President Trump's being criticized by the left for even suggesting
to Zelensky that Ukraine would need to give up some
land to Russia to end this war. And Trump reminded
everyone because how quickly they forget, or maybe they don't
forget that it was Obama who gave Crimea to Russia.
Where were they complaining?

Speaker 9 (15:07):
Then Chrimeia is the apple of Ukraine. I mean, it's
so beautiful, and Obama gave it away. Nobody ever mentions
that if I ever did that, the fake news would
be They would be writing about me day and night
for years. He gave it away, He demanded that they
let it go, and Russia came in and took it.
Just took it like from a candy from a baby.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
That was really to George Strait song, just give it Away.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
I'm bizarre of talk radio The Michael Barry Show. I
wasn't sure JD.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Banks would be the right choice Donald Trump. A lot
of people weren't sure, and many of them expressed that
at the time, And now that just gets memory hold.
They jump up and down and say they knew JD.
Vance was the guy. I didn't know he was the
guy I wasn't sure. In fact, I was unsure and

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uncertain and skeptical. And I will tell you now why.
There were good reasons. Number One, he had been pretty
nasty anti Trump in twenty sixteen, as I had now,
So why is that hypocritical of me to say that
about him? No, it's not because I was anti Trump

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for the reasons I have expressed. And as Trump has
governed as he has, I've approved of the way he
has governed, and I did not believe he would govern
that way. If I did, I would have had a
different opinion. And I don't know why people struggle with that.
When I say this, people get mad at me. Now
that was nine years ago. I liked the job he's doing.

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But if the only reason we get along is if
I agree with you on Trump that Trump is God
and he's Jesus and he died for our sinds and
you have to give him your that's not me I'm
never going to do that. I want what's best for
our country, not what's best for Trump, not what's best
for the Republican Party. I was worried jd Vance was

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was going to be. One of the problems with Trump
Trump one point zero the first four years is that
Trump gave opportunities to people who did not like him
and he thought he believed and I think it's commendable
that he gave people chances, but people Republicans that didn't

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like him worked to undermine him, and I worried that
jd Vance would become one of those people. I worried
a great deal about that.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
He was.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
You can go back and see it for yourself. In
twenty sixteen. He was very anti Donald Trump, very much so,
and I worried about how that would would work out.
By the way, so was Scott Jennings. Scott Jennings was
virulently anti Trump. It was also really fat. You wouldn't
believe how fat he was. Yeah, he was really fat. Anyway,

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J d Vance turned out, and I also worried that
he was too young, and he was too young in politics,
you know, did he have the life experience to get there?
Because he hadn't spent that much time in public life
at that point. Well, I am delighted to report that
I was wrong on both fronts.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Delighted to report that it's turned out. It's turned out.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
I'm very happy with the way everything has turned out.
So he was doing an interview with Maria Barbiromo, I
think it was last week sometime, maybe even last weekend,
and he said Hillary Clinton's campaign talking points were laundered
through the intelligence community and sent out to the media.

Speaker 10 (19:00):
YEA, laundered Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign talking points through the
American intelligence services. That's a violation of the people's trust.
That's a violation of what our intelligence services should be doing.
And I absolutely think they broke the law, and you're
going to see a lot of people get indicted for that.
Here's the thing that we should really bother the American people.
What do you want our intelligence community to be doing.

(19:21):
I want them to be catching bad guys. I want
them to be making sure that terrorists aren't going to
kill innocent American civilians. I don't want them laundering Hillary
Clinton's campaign talking points into the American media and giving
them this air of legitimacy.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
It is sick and it's disgusting.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
It hurt the intelligence community, it hurt the American people,
and it hurt the first Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
We've got to have consequences for it.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
The problem becomes the intelligence community was trusted. So what
happens is when you pervert a trusted institution, a number
of things happen, but you also eliminate the trust. This
is what happened with police chiefs. If you look at
how many fat lesbian women who couldn't run a thirty

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minute mile, who did not serve on the streets at
he's not with distinction, who became these token police chiefs
and now they're the ones causing all the problems, Cincinnati
being one of them.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
And if you.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Look at how many of those, Well, we've always been
pro law enforcement, so what does the left do? They
infiltrate law enforcement. We've always been pro church, So what
does the left do? They infiltrate the church. Now you
can't trust the church, you can't trust the police chief,
you can't trust the intelligence community, you can't trust a

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military leadership. Because under Biden and Obama you had a
bunch of lefty That's why you had men in uniform
dressed as women and doing videos of themselves.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I mean, this was absurd.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
This is what happens when you take something that was
trusted and admired and respected and you do this. Oh well,
let me hurry more with this interview.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
JD.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Vance told Maria Bartiromo that if we did the census ANEW,
we do a new census, you would add ten additional
Republican seats and nine fewer Democrat seats.

Speaker 10 (21:23):
Another crazy thing that I had no idea about, but everybody,
even Democrats, actually admit this that the census in twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Had a major statistical error.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
And what that meant is that you actually undercounted a
few states that are Republican, like Florida and Ohio. You
overcounted some Blue states. And so what I understand, if
you actually did the census ANEW right now, you would
have ten additional Republican seats and nine fewer Democrat seats.
And really, what we're living with, Maria, is the consequence

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of forty years of institutional control in the Democratic Party.
These guys have fought very dirty for a very long time,
and they haven't just elections and enacted laws that we
may not agree with.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
They have tried to rig the game for.

Speaker 10 (22:05):
Democrats and against Republicans, and thankfully, under President Trump's leadership,
you finally see some spine, you finally see some backbone
in the Republican Party to fight back against these very
aggressive Democratic dirty tricks. But the only way for us
to do it is to actually go and do the
hard work to reset the scales a little bit. What
we want to do is redo the census, but importantly,

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we want to redistrict some of these red states, and
we want to make the congressional apportionment fair in this country. Again,
you cannot do it unless Republicans actually take some very
decisive action in the months to come.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
We think they will, and we're obviously supporting them every
step of the way. So do you worry that as
Republicans do that, the.

Speaker 9 (22:43):
Democrat blue states are going to do the same thing,
and then you'll have redistricting in California, New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
And so on.

Speaker 10 (22:49):
You know, there's just not a whole lot of Jews
left out of that limit. The Democrats have already gone
as far as they possibly can.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Let me give you crazy statistics, So I believe that.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
It's in New Jersey Illinois, New York, California, and there's
one other Democrat state. Where you take those five states,
you have a large number of Democrat representatives.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
But here's the crazy statistic.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
President Trump won forty three percent of those five states
and Democrats have something like eighty five percent of the
representatives out of those states. You cannot jerrymander these far
left states anymore.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
And that's the whole point.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
We have unilaterally disarmed in the Republican Party.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
We have said to the.

Speaker 10 (23:29):
Democrats, if you want to rig the game in your
favor in blue states, go ahead. We're going to do
nothing to fight back against it. That's crazy. It makes
it harder for us to pass our agenda, it makes
it harder for us to win elections, and most importantly,
it gives Democrats this ability to run rough shot over
the country without any pushback from the American people. The

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democratic system in this country is broken because who you
vote for doesn't necessarily get reflected in who your representatives are.
We're just trying to rebalance this ails and frankly, pushback
against a very unfair system creator by the Democrats.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Pretty darn well said I'd say, pretty darnwell said We're
going to continue on this issue because this is really
really important.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
Stung Alma. Michael Bay did show on Buflump.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Talking about the discussion between Maria Bartiromo and JD Vance
and jd Vance had talked, had discussed the census and
the president's desire to hold a proper census that counts

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Americans properly and doesn't count illegal aliens. Because the census
is only supposed to count Americans. Illegal aliens do not
get a vote in Congress. They are citizens of other countries.

(25:06):
We shouldn't need to argue this, but I will argue it.
I will make the point a thousand times to make
sure everyone understands it. So there was this discussion about
JD Vance having a meeting in Indiana. It was you know,
it's been ten days ago or so, and she asked
of JD. Vans if he had discussions about redistricting while

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he was on that trip to Indiana.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
You're just back from Indiana. Did you have discussions on
redistricting with officials there?

Speaker 10 (25:38):
We did.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
We spoke with the.

Speaker 10 (25:39):
Governor, with Speaker of the House there in Indiana, and
the Senate President.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
And the message I delivered its pretty straightforward. We want
to unify the Republican team.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
We want to fight together, win together, make big things
happen for the American people, and obviously the people the
state of Indiana together. But one of the things that
you see in a lot of red states is blue
states have really aggressively jerrymander. It's such that they've actually
made it harder for the majority of the state of
Indiana to have their voice heard in their federal elections.

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Because if California has crazy jerry manders, Illinois has crazy
jerry manders, New York has crazy jerry manders. What it
does is it actually suppresses the will of the people
in states like Indiana.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
And the other thing that we talked.

Speaker 10 (26:20):
About, and I think to realize this Maria, until a
couple of years ago, that you know, for apportioning representatives,
you actually count illegal aliens.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
So even though illegal aliens theoretically are.

Speaker 10 (26:31):
Not supposed to vote, we know sometimes they do, you
still count illegal aliens for congressional apportionment. So California has
way more House seats than it should because they have
such a high population of illegal aliens. So they get
rewarded for welcoming illegal aliens in their state, giving them
federal benefits, actually asking the taxpayers of states like Ohio

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to subsidize them, and then those same taxpayers in Ohio
and Indiana and elsewhere they have fewer congressional representatives because
of what California has allowed to happen. That's ridiculously unfair,
and the only real way to fight back against it
is for us to redistrict in some ways as aggressively
as these hard blue states have done.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
What's crazy is this is being described as Republicans taking
this very aggressive act. Actually, no, all Republicans are doing
is turning around and doing what the Democrats did, undoing
the bad Republicans are undoing what the Democrats did. So

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what's really hard for many people to understand is what
comes off as looking very mean that we have to
do to the Democrats as if they are victims, is
actually what they've been doing. But they do it with
a smile on their face. See, this is the beauty
of having the media, the comics, the movie stars, the singers,

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the universities, all these people on your side. So you're
slowly but surely eating at the soul of the America
that we know, and no one notices you're doing it.
And then when someone steps up and says, hey, you
can't do that anymore. We're undoing that, we're churning it back.
They go, oh my god, what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
This is scary.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
No, what we're doing is not scary. What these people
have been doing for a very long time, brazenly is
destroying this country. And now what we're doing is ensuring
you're not going to continue to do that. I have

(28:43):
not heard this word I don't think come out of
Donald Trump's mouth, but jd Vance says he uses it.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
This is a different interview. This is not Maria Barbaroma.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
This is jd Vance talking about a word that President
Trump calls the pannikins.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
And uh, I must admit I like the term. And
I have come to appreciate Trump's ability.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Part of his messaging, some of it nonverbal, some of
it verbal, is that he will taunt. You know, he
will call people names that he knows hurts their feelings
to throw them off their game. He will he will
use names that will draw attention to something about someone
like little Mark, a little little Marco or litl Marco.

(29:32):
And I don't think people notice how little Marco Rubio
was until he called him Little Marco, and when he
did that, he marginalized and Marco was never the same
Trump Trump destroyed him. Turns out he's become a pretty
good little secretary of State.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I never expected that. I'll tell you that for sure.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Anyway, this is this is jd vance with with the
term and not that I'm well the there is a
reason I play this other than the fact that I
like the term.

Speaker 10 (30:03):
But here's the term for you still get obviously some
people that the President calls the Pannikins who are saying
it's not enough.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
So he's using that.

Speaker 10 (30:13):
Unless yes, I think he came up with the term
right probably, and the president is I think he's exactly
right that.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Okay, let's just take the immigration issue.

Speaker 10 (30:23):
I know the President would like to see I would
certainly like to see more deportations, but the courts have
been fighting us every step of the way. We didn't
have the resources necessary until a few weeks ago to
actually hire all the ice agents that we needed to
get out the twenty million strong Bright border invasion. And
even with that, this year, in twenty twenty five, we're
gonna have the first negative net migration number in fifty

(30:45):
years in this country. For the first time in my lifetime,
we're having actual remigration of illegal aliens outside the United States.
That is something to celebrate. Of course, we always want
to do more, and it's important to keep the pressure on.
But anybody who's trying to say that we're like, not
takeking this seriously, I think that they themselves are being
fundamentally dishonest. And there's a little bit too much of that,

(31:06):
I think, and the President is right to point that
out that there's a little bit I think too much
of people, you know, sort of the left is still
out there, and the left is still trying to throw
people in prison, and if they get the house back,
they're going to start sham impeachment trial after sham impeachment trial.
We absolutely got to hold our people and our government
to a high standard. I also think it's okay to

(31:28):
win every now and then, be happy about me every
now and then, and on the immigration issue, and I
think a lot of the other parts of the President's agenda,
we are actually making really good progress.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
We should be celebrating that he's right.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
But President Trump using a term like that also draws
attention to it, and he reminds the base, hey, stay
with me here. Everybody keep rowing the same direction here.
Remember he is he's having to play many roles. He's
having to play the head of the government, he's having

(32:04):
to play the head of the military, the commander in chief.
He's having a drive policy decision, he's having to do
the media.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Handle the messaging.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Is also having to motivate people, and part of that
is motivating the base, and part of that is motivating
the congressman and senators and different elected officials who you
don't want to go off and start getting nervous because.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
They can't fade the heat.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
Well, very very subtle, but very brilliant thing he's doing there,
And I think the main reason I wanted to play
that was to note that that's what the president's doing,
because at a time like this, this is when your
base tends to break down.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
They start questioning things. They don't have an election right
in front of them, so they're not as loyal as
they would be.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
He's trying to keep everybody on the same page.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
It's a lot going on here.