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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Luck and load. The Michael Very Show is on the air.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
He Donald Thomas dot Love.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is what democracy looks like. There's what democracy looks like.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
This is what democracy looks like.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
This, there's what democracy looks.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
We want the promise of a paradom for everyone. We
want to voice in our future. We are standing up
in peaceful, patreonic process, just like our founders.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Fold out.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
No throns, no crowns, no.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
So what brings you out today? No King's Day?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
And why specifically are you out supporting?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
No king?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Say?

Speaker 5 (00:52):
I think protest is important?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Why are you protesting?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
How much time you have.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
A couple of minutes? What's the main reason you're out
here protesting? President?

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Agree with a lot of the decisions that are being made.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Is there any decision in particular you disagree with?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Were?

Speaker 6 (01:13):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:14):
So I would start with, well, I don't even think
I don't even think it's appropriate for.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Me to have the singer view.

Speaker 7 (01:30):
And we should go to paper ballots, we should go
to one day voting, we should go.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
To voter ID and just one other thing, proof of
a thing.

Speaker 7 (01:41):
Called citizenship in the United States?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Wouldn't that be nice? How simple does that sound?

Speaker 7 (01:46):
And as we gather with family and friends, will not
forget the true source of our joy and our strength.
Americas put our trust in God. It will always be
in God.

Speaker 8 (01:57):
We trust. We will never change that. You know there's
a movement to change it. It will not happen. We
won't let that happen. Can you imagine a movement to
change that.

Speaker 9 (02:08):
We've ended the trianny of so called diversity, equity and
inclusion policies all across the entire federal government, and indeed
the private sector and our military and our country will
be woke.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
No longer change.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
We're going to make our country better than it ever
has been. I said that many people have told me
that God spared my life for a reason, and that
reason is to save our country and to restore America

(03:03):
to greatness. And now we are going to fulfill that mission.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Together. We're going to fulfill that mission.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
The task before us will not be easy, but I
will bring every ounce of energy, spirit, and.

Speaker 8 (03:18):
Fighten that I have in my soul to the job.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
That you've entrusted to me.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Nothing will stop me from keeping.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
My word to you, the people.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
We will make America save, strong, prosperous, powerful and free
again and I'm asking every citizen all across our land
to join me in this noble and righteous endeavor.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
That's what it is. Great news America.

Speaker 10 (03:50):
Thanks to the courageous, paid protesters that were dropped off
on buses and handed signs and told exactly what to
chance repeatedly all day long, America has no king.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Now.

Speaker 11 (04:07):
This weekend, brave Americans took to the streets to protest
the monarchy.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yes, the monarchy.

Speaker 11 (04:16):
They marched, they chanted, they posted selfies, and by golly,
they won.

Speaker 12 (04:23):
What do we want when.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Do we want it?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Also, unclare we want it?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Because it was falling an email, so it must be
pro ya.

Speaker 11 (04:36):
Today America officially has no kings. It's a historic moment because,
as everyone knows, there was absolutely a king to overthrow.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Apparently.

Speaker 11 (04:48):
Now, if you were really looking for kings, you might
have missed your chance a few years back back when
the royal court told you which businesses were essential, when
the peasants could buy socks at Walmart, but Mom's diner
had to close its doors forever, or when the crown
decreed you couldn't work unless you took the royal jab.
That was the closest thing we've had a monarchy in centuries,

(05:11):
and it came with daily press briefings instead of royal decrees.
But don't worry the folks who acted like Kings back then.
They're still out there handing out pitchforks and warning everyone
to rise up against the tyranny, which is rich coming
from the people who built the castle.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Want also unclear because they.

Speaker 10 (05:43):
Ah, yes, another flop. But you ever stop and thinking
about the fact that this was a completely ginned up issue.
There are people paid a lot of money and they say,
all right, we're gonna need to distract from Trump's success.

(06:06):
We got to keep the people constantly Pavlov's dog. You know,
you got to get them salivating. We've got to give
them a reason. You got to get them all fired up.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
What can we do?

Speaker 10 (06:21):
No Kings was not, in my opinion, a really inspired choice,
but that's what they choose. And then they start the
machine into place. They go down the democratic hierarchy, like
like the KPO, down to the street level. You've got
each one gets paid along the way, and they've got
this this machine of an army. There's a logistics effort

(06:45):
to this. You got to get the signs printed and
handed to them. You got to get the shirts on them.
You got to make it look like, you know, they
all chose to be out here. And there are lots
of interviews and we'll play some of these on the
evening show today of people who said, yeah, we were
paid to be out here, we don't really know, and
so they create this moment and then all the media

(07:06):
covers it, Yeah, no keys, as if this just spontaneously occurred,
and then Trump has to bother to say, no, I'm
not a king, and then it's figure the house is no,
he's not a king, and we're all over here, no
they're not kings. But there is a success in and
of itself that you can control the American mindset and

(07:29):
the conversation in this way. If you spend a certain
amount of money, you simply create this whole, this whole
funeral that did not exist organically. It is not authentic.
It is not a grassroots movement. The way the tea
party was. It is planned in an office room and

(07:52):
the orders are sent down, and then the people come
out to the streets and they chant and they do
their thing, and the whole thing is over and everybody
goes home and the performative experience of Kabookie theater has
has occurred yet again. I mean, it really is when
you when you step back, it's it's it's profoundly absurd.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Tom rad.

Speaker 10 (08:23):
Well, that's a perfect introduction to Randy Wingarten, the president
of the American Federation of Teachers. Not sure what the teachers,
why the teachers would be involved in a rally related
to hating President Trump, which is what the we that
the No King's rally was about. But this just goes

(08:45):
to show yet again, this isn't about teachers. It's thought
about education, it's not about children. It's yet another union
designed to suck off cash and be a political interest
arm Here.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
She is crazy.

Speaker 10 (09:02):
This is a crazy, crazy, nutty, hysterical woman.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Republicans, Democrats, indevedics, black, brown, white, This sixty eight year
old Jewish baby War loss business owners Christian gen Ziers.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
This is as I Jen said, we are the majority
of America.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
What do we want?

Speaker 13 (09:33):
What do we want?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Want?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
The promise of America for everyone. We want a voice
in our future. We are standing up in peaceful, patriotic process,
just like our founders.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Called out no films, no crowns, no kids.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
We are standing up because we don't want our street folds.
We don't what our neighbors disappears financeasis.

Speaker 10 (10:06):
Oh yes, okay, and here's another real genius No Kings protester.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Trump's a bitch?

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Why is that?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I don't know. We don't like him, that's the word
around here.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Any any particular reason why you don't like.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Him, No clue at all. I'm just going with everybody
else saying that's what they pay me to say. Yo,
I'm here.

Speaker 10 (10:23):
You know, here's another protester at the Chicago rally.

Speaker 9 (10:29):
You gotta grab a cub We gotta turn around the
cause of this fascist system.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
These Ice Asians gotta get shot and wiped out.

Speaker 9 (10:40):
Stay the same machinery.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
That's a fall.

Speaker 9 (10:43):
The splay right there, has to.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Get wiped out.

Speaker 10 (10:47):
Soros has wanted a civil war for a while to
destabilize America, and these people are willing participants. This is
what they are trying to induce is a civil war.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
There is no way around that.

Speaker 10 (10:59):
Very simply put, they are calling for, demanding and instigating
a civil war. The funniest thing about the No Kings
event in Hawaii is that it had to be rebranded
to the No Dictator's Rally because Hawaiians had kings and
they loved them. The first No Kings March on June

(11:23):
fourteenth came two days after the entire state of Hawaii
had a hollow day called King Kamahei Maha Kamahi Maha Day.
How'd I do on that? Chad Kamahi Comeha, comeha Maha Day.
So two days after King Kamehameha Day they had a

(11:45):
no Kings event. Well that's weird. So the No Dictators
Rally on Saturday met on the corner.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Of Ohi po oh He pa.

Speaker 10 (11:59):
He and Kameamea, named for the king, and po Ha
pah ou o Ahi po Ahi is named for Bernice
pau Ahi Bishop, who was a member of the Hawaiian
royal family. Her trust today is valued at over fifteen
billion dollars, making it one of the largest charitable trusts

(12:21):
in the US. Of course, there's been massive scandals regarding
the trust, with trustees actually going to jail.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
In addition to the state's love.

Speaker 10 (12:30):
Of kings, one of the biggest events in Hawaii is
annual international hula competition in Hilo called the Mary Monarch event,
named in honor of the last King of Hawaii, which
is King Kalukawa. He was known as the Marry Monarch
because he loved to party and fought back against the
Christian theocrats who pushed previous kings to do away with hula.

(12:56):
Well that's sort of awkward, isn't it. Let's have a
note King's Day, all right, make sure that Hawaii's included.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh, they actually like kings in Hawaii. Well, this is
gonna be weird. Yeah, what do we do about that?

Speaker 10 (13:14):
There were no kings rallies in Canada, which is interesting
for two reasons. Number One, you're Canadians, not Americans. I
know you'd like to be Americans. I know you would,
but you're not. So you don't need to worry about
what we're doing, except that you all want to end

(13:35):
up here at some point or another, and so you
think of yourselves as kind of Puerto Ricans or Guaymians
and that one day you might get to live here
if you're lucky. But the even better part of that
of no kings rallies in Canada is that.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Canada has a king.

Speaker 10 (13:57):
Canada is actually a constitutional monarchy. The head of state
in Canada is not the Prime Minister. It is the
King of Canada. Who is King Charles the Third, who
became the King of Canada after his mother, Queen Elizabeth I,

(14:18):
passed in September twenty second, making him automatically her by
succession her next in line. The Canadian monarchy is real.
In fact, I wrote it down here.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Let's see.

Speaker 10 (14:34):
Oh yeah, in Canada, his official title is Charles the Third,
by the grace of God, King of Canada and his
other realms and territories, Head of the Commonwealth.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
No kings, no kings?

Speaker 10 (14:51):
Actually you have a king. Well, we don't want Trump
to be king. He's not trying to be. You have
a king already. We're opposed to kings, but you have
a king. How are you opposed to kings when you
actually have a king? The irony of it, all of

(15:15):
people taking to the streets saying no kings when they
have a king, Well, we mean no kings in America.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Oh so kings for you, But you.

Speaker 10 (15:30):
Don't want kings in another country because you're opposed to
kings in other countries but not in your own.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
How much did they pay you?

Speaker 10 (15:43):
What price dignity?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
How does that work? Do they pay you in cash?

Speaker 10 (15:50):
What do you do with what they gave you to
stand around all day with your sign that says something
that you don't understand or mean.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
How sad are you? Bernie Sanders has often called.

Speaker 10 (16:04):
For government shutdowns, but speaking at the No Kings rally,
this makes me laugh.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Over the weekend, he declared.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
That this shutdown is depriving millions of federal employees of
the paychecks they desperately need.

Speaker 13 (16:22):
And where we are today, Where we are today on
the eighteenth day of a government shutdown, which is depriving
millions of federal employees of the paychecks they desperately need
and deserve.

Speaker 10 (16:39):
All right, let's just go ahead and address this right now,
because this comes up often. If you've been working at
the same place for more than two years, you should
not be living paycheck to paycheck. I see this poll

(17:06):
result come out constantly that people are living paycheck to paycheck.
My parents would have told you when I was being
raised that they lived paycheck to paycheck, and in that
sense they did. Because if if there was an unplanned

(17:29):
for expense exigency to use one of my favorite words,
that popped up, one of us got sick, one of
us had to be in the emergency room, some expense
of car, the car broke down, whatever that was, something
went wrong with the house and had to be fixed.

(17:52):
My dad would do most of that himself, but there
are things that come up. When that happened, he would
come up the family checkbook would come up short that week,
and so there would be until the next paycheck. There
would be dinner would be eggs and bacon, you know
what we already had, and my parents kept shelf stable

(18:17):
stuff at all time. There was always, you know, peanut
butter and the sorts of things that in a pinch
you could eat and you wouldn't, you know, you wouldn't
have to buy groceries that week. And so there were
times where my mom would skip a grocery visit because
we didn't have the money for it. However, it wasn't

(18:37):
that we were truly broke, because out of every paycheck,
my dad squirrelled away a little that went into the
credit union, the DuPont credit Union in Orange, and so
there was money that he kept there so that no
matter what, but as far as my mom knew, that

(18:58):
money was never to be touched no matter how bad
things got. So it was a stress when we were
out of money, and so, you know, you didn't get
two dollars to take to lunch that day for the
for the you went to the to the regular line
and you got the the she or or she packed
you up a lunch from home, and that was peanut butter.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
My brother was peanut butter and jelly. I don't eat
peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 10 (19:23):
I Mine would be a peanut butter with chips, because
that's what we had, right. You kept you kept bread
in the freezer so you always had bread you could
pull out. You always had peanut butter so you could survive.
You always had saltine crackers. You always had things that
could last forever that you kept squirrel back. But all

(19:43):
the while there was money in a checking account. He
didn't invest it yet. When I got of age and
I started studying investing, I got him to start investing.
We got you know, he started investing in stock market
and it wasn't much. He didn't meet any you know,
he didn't meet any accredited investor standards. But it's grown

(20:07):
over the years, in the fifty four in the twenty
nine years or so since I got him to do that,
and then we took it out of the checking account.
The checking account was really more money you don't spend
and you keep it over and that money accruise, But
it's not It wasn't growing as fast as inflation. But
he didn't know that yet. He had never been exposed
to any of that. So we were never really paycheck

(20:32):
to paycheck, even though they felt that we were, because
they lived as if we were. However, there are people
in this country, a lot of them, who are living
paycheck to paycheck and have.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
For twenty years.

Speaker 10 (20:47):
Now, I'm going to tell you something that is a problem,
and it's a problem that nobody wants to address.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
If you spend every dollar you have, and you.

Speaker 10 (20:59):
Have consistently consistently, that is a real problem. That's not
a good financial decision. It's not the role of the
government to solve your problem. It is not the role
of the government to solve your problem. Now, in this case,
should you be getting a paycheck, Sure, every you have

(21:22):
every right to reasonably believe that you should be paid
for work done. And you should blame Chuck Schumer and
the Democrats for shutting down the government. By the way,
they were given an opportunity to bifurcate the two issues
split them apart, and let's vote on a budget to
get the government back up and running, and we'll deal

(21:42):
with your health care for illegal aliens later. They won't
do it because it's not really about that. They are
betting that if the American people are forced to suffer,
they will blame Donald Trump for that suffering. And if
they're wrong, okay, they'll move on to the next issue.
No Kings, there will always be another issue, you see.

(22:05):
In fact, my sources on Capitol Hill tell me that
we'll probably get a deal today or in the next
few days, because they didn't want a deal done before
the No King's rally because you see, the King won't
pay the serfs, the peasants.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
That's what they were That was the message they were
hoping to convey.

Speaker 10 (22:28):
The King won't pay the peasants, and so show up
at this rally and everybody will be angry. So if
they did a deal before the weekend, then people wouldn't
be angry. And the idea was, you get it if
nothing else, you get federal government employees to come out,
and that would be well, it didn't happen. They had
a very poor, lackluster turnout and if you actually look

(22:51):
at who turned out, it's a bunch of old white people.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
And I will bet you if you were to get
down and.

Speaker 10 (22:59):
Do some get granular on that it's the same old
white people that have been protesting since Woodstock. It's the
same old white people that have been protesting everything since
the beginning of time. Because if you notice, like at
the ice facility in Portland, there's all like half of
them play bad guitar, really only a quard or two,

(23:22):
but they all they're all a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Peter Paul and Mary wannabes. Are Arlow Guthrie.

Speaker 10 (23:29):
You know, you've got a bunch of Arlow and Woody
Guthrie wannabes out there.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Just please don't raid the ice facility today today.

Speaker 10 (23:40):
And there's always these and then there's their women that
are out there, and there are always these pasty white
people that haven't bathed in three weeks. And they're all
Buddhists or wanna be Hindus that that never really got
over the Rajanish era. That's this group of people. They
just like to have a protest because they finished their granola,

(24:03):
they finished their gardening, they've they've done their their uh
you know, they're painting at home. They got nothing else
to do. They need something to do. My wife and
I saw some of them on Saturday. They had been
to their protest and they come into this cafe where
we're at, where we're eating, and they got their signs.
They're like, who who, that's a rough day of protesting.

(24:27):
You can't help but chuckle. It's a hobby for them.
It's an activity.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
You know.

Speaker 10 (24:30):
Some people go to car shows, some people go to concerts.
They go to protests. It's old white liberal hippies. Okay,
nobody listens to them, but carry on there.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Wiy with Michael Berry.

Speaker 10 (24:47):
As a scheme that the Democrats have come up with,
I have to say, No Kings is probably the least
interesting of them, right, like when you come up when
you think of the stuff they've come up with, like
the climate hoax that appeals to people's fears. I'm fifty four,

(25:11):
so in the course of my lifetime there's probably been
about a movie per year that I've been alive where
the spiders take over, or the monkeys take over, or
the snakes take over at least the plane.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
You know, this idea.

Speaker 10 (25:27):
That nature is going to get its revenge on us that,
you know, that kind of fear there, Fear on that level,
in sort of a roller coaster way is actually for
some people ecstatic. It's orgasmu intense fear like that becomes

(25:51):
for them almost a sexual finish. It's exciting, it's thrilling.
They love it and and they will spread it, they
will evangelize it. It becomes all encompassing, and it's sort
of like the fear of COVID. You know, there's still
people wearing the mask because if they had to give

(26:12):
up their fear of COVID, they would lose part of
their identity and part of what they do. Right, it's
a thing for them, fear of COVID and worrying about
COVID gives them something to do. Most people are bored
out of their minds and don't know where to put

(26:33):
their energy or time.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Of any meaning.

Speaker 10 (26:36):
You know, it's man's constant search for meaning, and so
what many people do is they substitute things for meaning
in their lives that are all encompassing. Fear is perhaps
the most common of them. A fear is so intense

(26:57):
that it takes over your life. And climate change really
captured that and It's something that they could tie to
their political ends. That's why al Gore became the first
green billionaire. He never made anything or did anything, just
served on boards and got them contracts, and a bunch

(27:18):
of money was redirected.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
And that was that.

Speaker 10 (27:21):
The American economy was hurt and a lot of companies
paid money into that the whole EV market. For instance,
the company Rivian doesn't actually make money on each car
that they make. When they sell a unit, they don't
sell it for more than it costs to make it.
They get credits from other from internal combustion engine companies

(27:46):
think Ford, Dodge, Chevy, that they then use as carbon
credits to Rivian, who makes only electric cars. The only
one that makes any money on the EV market is Tesla,
and they'll be the last one standing in very short order.
But back to the government shutdown, Consider this for a moment.

(28:06):
Is your life any worse off without the government shut down?
The only complaint, the only complaint is going The only
complaint I've gotten from anybody on the government being shut
down once law enforcement was covered. The only complaint I
got was they have an event called wings over Houston.
Pretty cool event. It's south of Houston in the Clear
Lake area where NASA is, and they do this big

(28:30):
air show and it's a big deal every year.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Everybody loves this big air show.

Speaker 10 (28:34):
And they didn't have the Thunderbirds this year, and so
that that was a bummer because you know, that's the
federal They had to shut that part down and that.
But when that's all you need out of the government
is some of our cool planes to fly by, does
that tell you anything? Why don't we keep it shut
down and give the people back their money. Put this

(28:57):
into perspective. The governor of Pennsylvania, and I don't know
if he realized how bad this sounds.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
This is, This is a bad sign for a state.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
The largest employer of the state of Pennsylvania is the
federal government. The second largest employer is the state government.
That is a horrible, horrible stat.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
For a state.

Speaker 12 (29:25):
Largest employer in Pennsylvania is the federal government. Second largest
is the state government. And you know, I'm proud to
be colleagues with eighty thousand people who work for our
state government. I work with them every single damn proud
of them, are proud of the work that they do.
From the folks who clean our buildings to the people
that go out and you know, test for public health
issues out in our rural communities.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I value the work that they do.

Speaker 12 (29:51):
The idea that some of them are being asked to
go to work without pay, that the largest employer in
our state is not paying their employees, that as a
real negative impact to the point you're making. I mean,
these are folks who still need to go to the
grocery store, they still need to pay for their kids' childcare,
they still need to get their kid the baseball bat,
they need for littally whatever, and they're not I think

(30:13):
what's different about this shutdown than past In the past,
they were kind of guaranteed they were going to get
their money back at the end of it, and so
it sucks, but they probably thought, Okay, I can get
through a week or two or three, but I'm going
to get all that money back. The way Donald Trump
is doing things, the way these people around them are
doing things, I don't think they know they're going to
get their money back, and so it's not just about

(30:35):
kind of floating through three weeks. Right, maybe dip in
the savings, put the money back to he sent them.
You have the savings This is really serious stuff because
they don't know that they're going to get that back pay.

Speaker 10 (30:46):
And in order to pay the government employees, you've got
to agree to an omnibus bill that sends money to
every country around the world to do things like, you know,
study the mating habits of some weird mammal that we
didn't know existed, or encourage people in Pakistan if they're gay,

(31:07):
to pursue a career in singing, or some fund in
Egypt where if you're a transgender we help you learn
to walk in high heels.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 10 (31:20):
You are playing a hostage game with Well, don't you
want your government employee neighbors to get paid? Sure, honest job,
honest pay, whether that's private or public sector. All right,
but I'm not willing to allow the waste and abuse
to go to other countries because you've bundled it all up.
So no, I'm not, and I think most Americans agree

(31:43):
with me on that. I believe that is. I believe
that Americans have had enough. I think we're tired of
sending money around the world when our people are struggling,
and you know what never gets talked about, and you
I mean, listen to people have conversation about the budget. Hey,
we're sending a billion dollars to Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
We shouldn't do that. We should instead spend it over it.

Speaker 10 (32:07):
No, no, we should give that money back to the taxpayers.
It is as if once that money goes into the vault, boom.
Now they argue over where it is spent. But it's
not their money, it's our money. That's the whole point.
That's the whole point. We are taxing our people more

(32:29):
and more and more. You've got your income tax, you've
got your property tax, you've got your sales tax. You've
got a tax on everything, regulations, finds, permits. You are
destroying innovation. You are taking the money of the people.
You are preventing that money from being in circulation to

(32:50):
buy goods and services, all the while growing the government,
growing the government. That's what has to stop. The government
has to shrink. It is so hard to do, though,
because you're trying to get government to shrink itself. And
what you see, I mean the state of Pennsylvania. I'd
be embarrassed. I'd be humiliated to be the governor and say, yeah,

(33:10):
our largest employer a federal government our second largest in
state government.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Give us our tax sallargs, won't you
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