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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, Time, Time, Luck and loud.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The Michael Verie Show is on the air, and now
a totally random weekend review from the past.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Take a guess when this was.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Please say a mother is accused of shooting our thirteen
year old son to be an argument.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
According to Precinct Foy, they say around five point thirty
they got a call saying that the mom and the
son were fighting each other.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And let's a verbal disturbance and ultimately let her to
fire her handgun and striking the child.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I mean, I don't think the average mom wants to
shoot her thirteen year old son. And a thirteen year
old kid can drive a mother absolutely up the wall.
I know. I certainly did. My mom hit me with
a broom one time. I mean walat mean with a
broom and I had a bruise the next day.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
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Ultra Dark Counting the stars. The worst day of fishing
is better than the best day at work. And I'm
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one of these people's like to cast more than I
like to catch fish. Why I can't white fish? I
like to throw it out there bringing in. That's why
I don't hire GUIDs anymore, because they'll go up. You
do a white cast, won't you let it sit there
for a minute? Oh no, I need some action, constant,
(01:50):
thank you, lazy, get him conning it up to night,
shining through the trees.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
CRICKETSI singing in locturees by.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
Ramona.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
You're using the in word constantly, and I'm using it
even more often. It's the new inward. Ashani Mufuko by
a vowel Lady is a self described cultural competency coach
that's always cute. You get these people who run around
white people love to hire black people to tell them
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how awful they are. She's a cultural competency coach, confident
communications strategist, and the host and producer of the Anti
Racism School Is in Session podcast. Well, she has a
list of words and phrases that are just as bad
as the in word, and I fear that I use
(02:58):
them all so as an anti hi racist. Apparently she's
anti Michael Barry. Here is her list, and ramon, we'll
just I'll just ask you to give a ding on
each one of them. If you think I use that
word often. Okay, these are the new in words you
awful people out there. She's telling you what words you
cannot use because they are the in word.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
Ten ways you say the N word without saying the
N word. If you use any of these terms or
phrases in reference to black people, you are just as
racist as the person that actually.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Uses the N word.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Here are the words thug, ghetto, welfare queen, lazy, race, fader,
race s grifter, threatening, angry, dangerous, or you say that
we're playing the victim or we are a diversity higher.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
What you actually mean to say is the N word.
Just stop it.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
If you say these words are phrases, you are calling.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Us the N word.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
If you say these ignorant racist terms or phrases around
your children, you're also teaching your children to be racist,
just like you.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So I have good news and bad news for you.
Here's the bad news.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
You're not as non racist as you thought you were,
and you're certainly not anti racist.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Here's the good news.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
You can unlearn all the racist crap you've been taught
and reject white supremacist ideologies that you've believed for.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Your entire life. But can I pay you for the
privilege a Shani? Will you lecture me? In the meantime?
I bet some people will put a put a ball
a ballgag and a leather skull cap and dog chain
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and have a Shawnee lead them around and whip them
and tell them how awful they are and what racist
they are for all the phrases they use to describe
the racist. Like Ashani Mufoko, what's funny is half of
those words she's describing she's engaged in right now. Race drifting,
race baiting, victim syndrome. Anytime you start with somebody being
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a cultural competency coach and they come communication strategists, I
think you're none of those things, lady. I think you're
a fraud and a great What do they read the
thing again? And let's stop them with each one.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Here we go ten ways you say the in word
without saying the in word. If you use any of
these terms or phrases in reference to black people, you
are just as racist as a person that actually uses.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
The N words. Oh, okay, here are the words thug. Yeah, thug.
That's a good one. That's a good one. It's actually
a word that came from India, believe it or not. Yeah,
a thug is a word that came from India. And
I think we all know what a thug is when
we see it. It's good to have such words because
otherwise people might refer to someone who is a thug
as a black person. And every black person is not
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a thug. So you got a thug who's a thug
and he's engaged in thuggery. So when that thug is
thugging and you say, yeah, there was a thug, you
have to have a way you can say it that
isn't related to the color. So what a thug is?
Nobody's calling you a thug if you're not a thug
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because you're black. So no, all right, next ghetto ghetto.
Oh ye're guilty again. So Ray s Grifter says that
saying these things are the same as the N word,
But that's not true.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
It's wrong to make fun of people, you know, But
it's so fun sometimes I've written for some TV shows
and you know, on a major TV show. You have
to be careful about what you say about people because
a lot of people can get offended, or so it
has been explained to me.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I was once. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I was writing for an awards show once and I
got into some trouble. I wrote a joke for this
awards show that had the word midget in it, and
someone from the network came down to our offices and
he said to me, hey, you can't put the word
midget on TV. And I said, I sure would like to,
and he said, no, midget is as bad as the
N word. First off, no.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No it's not.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Do you know how I know it's not, I said
to him, is because we're saying the word midget and
we're not even saying what the N word is. If
you're comparing the badness of two words and you won't
even say one of them, that's the worst word. Also,
I don't mean the gloss over, but like little people
have been through in this country, But you cannot compare
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the plight of midgets to African Americans.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
That is outrageous.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Midgets were never enslaved, unless you count the walka factory.
So we get into this argument we're going back and forth.
He goes, you can't put that word on TV, and
I said, I want to, and he goes, if you
put that word on TV, there could be a protest
of midgets on this building.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And I said, promise the term anal intercourse on your program,
Michael Arry, if it's relevant story for journalistic purposes. Well,
you know, things you're getting weird when President Trump promote
proposes an implement and it's a savings account, a Trump account.
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Of course it has to have his name on it.
It should. He's the one that came up with it.
A Trump account of one thousand dollars for every child.
And you know things are crazy when Corey Booker, who
just got married to a woman, says, that was actually
my idea, so the Democrats. When the Democrats are not
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criticizing his idea but are now claiming it was their own,
well we have reached an interesting point, an interesting point
on the spectrum. What is the Trump account? How does
it work? Luke Pettitt is the Treasury Department Assistant Secretary
for Financial Markets, and he is our guest. Luke, I
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guess the first question is what exactly is this account?
Who qualifies for it. When does it begin?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, So the Trump Accounts, which are going to go
live in the fourth of July next year, are really
a transformational program that are going to open up investment
accounts for children under eighteen starting next year to allow
them to build you know, real net worth for their futures,
allow them to harness the power of compound growth and
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give them a stake in America's future. And so as
america and economy grows, so does their net worth. And
so these will be broad based investment accounts that will
be investing in US stock indicies, ensuring that you know,
families and children's get simple and transparent and affordable growth.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Options for them.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
But it will be essentially an investment account that they
will have and to let it grow, their parents and
their parents employers will contribute to and once they turn eighteen,
it'll for traditional wroth or traditional rather.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You know. I've talked on their in fact as recently
as yesterday about the fact that growing up in a
working class home, parents didn't go to college, nobody and
our family ever had, and the idea of you saved
your money, the idea of investing was not something that
was ever discussed, and I realized as I got much
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older that if you will start putting money in the
earlier the better. A little money consistently over a lot
of time turns out to be a great deal of money.
And there is this idea that you earn it and
you save it, but investing is how you create real wealth.
And I love the idea of encouraging people to understand
(10:30):
that sooner rather than later. You're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
And if you think about it, those first formative years
when a child is growing up, if they have money
that's sitting in a savings account from their parents and
it's not being invested, that they're losing out on a
lot of returns.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Since fifty seven and p.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Five hundred is delivered an average annual return of ten
point five percent.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I mean, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
And if you think about it, even this thousand dollars
seed which children born between calend years twenty five twenty
eight will get, that alone, compounded at that rate for
sixty five years is six hundred and seventy four thousand dollars.
I mean, we're talking about a lot of compound investment
over that took the course of their life. And then
when you think about the engagement that children will have
with these accounts, learning about what is compounding, what is investing,
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and how do I plan for my future so I
can have a nest egg for when I'm older and
ready for retirement. This is this is a profound and
powerful paradigm shift We're about to witness here.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Luke, It's amazing. Luke Pettitt is our guest Treasury Department
Assistant Secretary for Financial Markets. I started a Robinhood account
for my kids when they were in middle school, and
it was fascinating to me how all of a sudden
they were interested in investing. They wanted to talk about
particular companies and their stock and their future, and disclosures
that they had made that might potentially harm their stock price,
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are new announcements of products that they were launching. They
began to understand how capital funds deals, and how capital
is liquid and how it moved, and how capital gets scared,
and how capital gets excited, and sometimes that exuberance can
be silly and sometimes the fear can be nonsensical. But
understanding that this is the underpinning of how our economy works,
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particularly as regards public companies. It was amazing to me
how this was the best thing. You know, you know,
you try to explain these things on long driving trips.
It's not until their money is at play. I started
them checking accounts and gave them access, and it was
amazing how all of a sudden, when they had to
pay for their own things, things that made sense before
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you know, Crockett was having his sports team over to
the house, and we've always done raising canes for all
the kids, and he said, I don't think we need
to have food for it was for his young life group.
I don't think we need to have food for the event.
And my wife said, well why not? We always do.
I don't think anybody likes it. Well, he didn't want
to have to pay for it. So, all of a sudden,
money makes sense. There's a cost to things, and I
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think the earlier that kids can learn these things the better.
That's right, It comes down to ownership.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
In these programs, these Trump accounts are going to give
every child in ownership stake in the American economy, American companies,
and a first hand experience with capitalism and markets in
a way that would be hard to deliver otherwise, And
So it's filling a gap that I don't think people
realize needed to be filled until President Trump really leaned
in in the working family and tax cuts that we
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saw past early this summer. And like I said before,
we're about to see a transformational shift in how children
are viewing capitalism, the markets, and their stake in the
American economy.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I love it. I absolutely love it. We're talking about
children born beginning January first of this year, So if
you have a baby that was born in this calendar
year and that goes through the end of twenty twenty eight,
so December thirty first of twenty twenty eight. It is
a pilot program. That's who qualifies. Look, how did you
end up in the Department of Treasury, You know I was.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I had the pleasure of being nominated by President to
fill the role for Assistence Secretary for Financial Institutions Secretary
Best in places trust in me to fulfill this role.
And as part of that, I've been tasked with helping
ensure the Treasury Department, which is leading the implementation of
Trump Accounts, that we have a successful launch on the
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fourth of July because of how important this program is.
But by the grace of God, I got here and
I'm honored to be here in this building working for
Secretary Vestment and for President Trump. But one thing on
your point earlier, it's not just for kids who are
born in January first, twenty five through the end of
twenty eight. Any children can create these accounts. And you
know Michael Dell's historic announcement on Tuesday of six point
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twenty five billion dollars. That's two hundred and fifty dollars
per child for up to twenty five million Americans. And
that expands the scope of eligible children who can not
only create accounts, but also receive a seed an investment
to start and to base their investments off of.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
You know, it's amazing. I saw a chart the other
day that if every person would contribute from when they're
a child one dollar into an investment, what that number
will be by the time they're thirty forty to fifty sixty.
You're talking about retirement level dollars. And we can each
set aside a dollar. That's easy enough to do. It's
amazing to get people to start thinking in terms of
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not just saving, but investing and putting your work, your
money to work and creating more wealth. I love the concept.
Look Pettitt, Treasury Department Assistant Secretary for Financial Markets. Thank you,
good sir, thanks for having me today. The first I've
been destroying the black community is to dismantle the Black
family Michael Berries Show.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Why don't we ask missus Willie Brown if Kamala Harris
cares about black ven.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I just ask Ramon, Ramon, does all the music sound
everything like that while we're live on the air. Chad
Kunda Jim work on the off air stuff, including research,
building the parodies, but Ramona is the one across the
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glass more loud, and it is his prerogative what we
come back from the breaks with, which is what's known
as a bump. The bump music and bump music's are
more important to our show than probably most only because
music is very important to us, and that's part of
what we do. We enjoy sharing music with you, creating
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moods with music. And I just had a very odd moment.
I asked Ramon for Presence of the Lord by Blind Faith,
and he kind of furrowed his brow and I said,
you know that song? He said no, So he went
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to find it and he said, they only have like
ten songs, and I said, but surely you've heard that song.
He had never heard that song. I love that song.
I mean it shouldn't be a shot when you've got
Steve Winwood. Eric clapped Ginger Baker, and I guess I
should add Gretch to that group. He was in Traffic.
So it's such an interesting time because Clapton, Ginger Baker,
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Wynn Wood, Gretch. This is just after Cream breaks up
and they only did one album. I think they only
went on one one. I think they did one like a
whole summer tour. That was it, and that was that
was their body of work. But I think I think
they're fantastic. I love that song. I've always loved that song.
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I'm just happy because it's the kind of thing that
Ramon would know, and it somehow slipped through the cracks
and now he knows it, and I know he's going
to listen to it one hundred times. Makes me happy.
Democrat Senator Tammy Duckworth from Illinois was on CNN with
Dana Bash and she wants to criticizes the Trump defense
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of our country by stopping the Narco boats, and so
she wants to whatever Trump's for she's against if Trump's
for Christmas, she hates it. And that's what he does.
He puts them in this. He comes out strong for things,
and then they have to be against it, even though
the American people is for it or for it. So
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Dana Bash, I mean, it's almost it's almost an ounce
of journalism here. She simply asks have you seen the video?
And then she follows it up with she says yes,
She says you have seen the classified video because she
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knows she hasn't. And Tammy Dutworth is in an awkward situation.
Does she lie as they always do, or does she
tell the truth and undercut her whole point that she
can't actually pass judgment on this issue because she doesn't
know what happened. Senator, have you seen the video?
Speaker 8 (19:09):
I have seen the video and it is deeply disturbing.
I am mostly concerned with the fact that we are
putting our American servicemen and women in jeopardy here. We're
putting them in jeopardy in case they ever get shot down.
We're putting them in legal jeopardy. They could be brought
up in international criminal courts. And so what we're doing
here is taking those professionals or utmost professionals, and putting
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them into harm's way. And that's what bothers me the
most about what Pete hex Seth is doing. He is
the least qualified security defense in our nation's history, and
he's very cavalier about doing things. The fact of the
matter is only Congress can decide that we can go
to war, and there was no such declaration made.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
I just want to make sure that I get this accurate.
You have seen the classified video of this particular strike,
the first strike and then the double tap as it's known.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
No, I've just seen what's been available in the media.
I've read the food report, but I've not seen the
actual video.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Oh so you disapprove of something that you don't actually
know what happened with, Well, that's okay. Most Americans were
lecturing their neighbors about how cops are evil because they
murdered George Floyd, and they never actually watched the video
(20:32):
because if they had, they would have known did George
Floyd was saying I can't breathe long before he was
on the ground, when he was in the backseat of
the vehicle because he had ingested fentanyl, And we all
know it Senator Tom Cotton, Democrat from Arizona, from Arkansas,
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Did I just say Arizona was on meat depressed with
Kristen meet the depressed as was depressed? What Rush called it?
Or maybe Mark Levin came up with that one with
Kristin Welker that that nasty? What did the Trump call
that nasty one? And it raises a very interesting question.
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Listen carefully.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
States doesn't shoot people at the border who are bringing
drugs into the country.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Why should it be different at sea? Are you saying
we should start shooting people at the border.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
We're going No, I'm not Kristin, but we are going
to the source where we have large scale boats that
are trafficking hundreds, if not thousands of pounds of drugs
that could kill thousands of Americans hundreds of our Kansas
a year. It is a highly effective and efficient up
way to stop these drugs from reaching our source.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Okay, let's ask questions. You're saying you support the president
shooting these narco boats because they're bringing large amounts of
drugs in what if we see someone bringing large amounts
of drugs across the border. If you're comfortable with the
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use of fatal force. Why mortal force? Why wouldn't you
be comfortable at the border. And besides, we've told you
don't come in. Here's a big sign in every language.
Here are officers standing there to prevent you from coming in.
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I'm asking you a question, how long would it take
that nobody would try to come in if, in fact,
we defended our castle, we treated America as the prized paradise,
our home that it is, and we actually started using
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lethal force for people who came in. How long do
you think that would take? I think that might affect people. Well,
but Michael, they come from poor countries. I understand. That's
the very argument people use when they break into stores
and steal their stuff. We don't buy Thatdy, You've got
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Michael Berry show. This is a longer clip than I
would normally play, but well, I'm not gonna be defensive
about it. I found it to be interesting and this
was as short as we could get it. It's five
minutes and it's on the subject of slavery. Now, why
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are we talking about slavery? Well, I think slavery is
a worthwhile discussion, not as much as we talk about
it in America, but Slavery is used as a cudgel
by people who want power over you. They want to
control you, and they want to make money using our government.
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And they also there's a lot of guilt in this
country over slavery, a lot of guilt, and so if
they can keep bringing it up and make you a
really bad person, then they might get something out of it.
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And then you've got politicians who will promise them that
they'll take your money in the name of slavery. They'll
take your money and give it to people who, in
almost every case were not actually the descendants of slavery.
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But what does it matter. It's a free giveaway, and
what they're giving away is decency and honor and truth
and dignity, because nobody's left with any dignity. You ever
actually watched Black Friday the day after Thanksgiving to watch
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people crash through the doors at Walmart and act like
a complete fool for what a cheap item? Really? What
price your dignity? Good grief? Anyway, I hope this is
John Stossel, who I think does a real good job,
(25:31):
comes at things from kind of a libertarian perspective, but
he's also a guy who I feel like I feel
like he's a guy who is a seeker of truth
and that he follows it wherever it may go. And
I liked that about him. This is a discussion Stossel
(25:51):
had with author Wilfred Riley, and I've listened to it
a few times now, and I decided it was something
that I was going to share with you, because some
folks don't know your history, so you get scammed into
being told that you should be ashamed of yourself when
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you don't need to.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
The original sin of slavery, the original sin of slavery.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Today Americans are taught when it comes to slavery, America
was the worst.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
The Atlantic slavery from Africa to the Americas was different
from any other type of slavery.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
The United States didn't inherit slavery from anybody.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
We created it. American slavery was worse because the slaves
were reduced the property to the channel property. No other
system of slavery did that except of American slavery. That's
complete nonsense.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Wilfred Riley is a political science professor and author of Lies.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
My liberal teacher told.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Me generational slavery like if you're the son of a
slaver or a slave that was extraordinarily common slavery around
the world.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Slavery books like this Unfinished Nation, slaves in Africa were
kept unfree only for a fixed term.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
No is the short answer.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Most of the slaves taken by these sort of players
would be either kept as slaves for their entire life,
or more likely sold to the Whites and the Arabs
in two years.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Today, partly thanks to the New York Times sixteen nineteen project,
students are taught that America's slavery was unlike anything that
existed before.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
We're the worst society ever.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
We've done things that no one else has ever done.
And sometimes there's nothing wrong with acknowledging your historical mistakes.
I mean, I'm Black, Irish, a bit Native American, at
least per the family lore. I mean, those are three
people that have experienced a great deal historically.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Nothing wrong with acknowledging that. But it's extremely odd.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
To focus only on the negatives of your society and
to exaggerate those.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
Americans are taught that slavers caught people in Africa and
shipped them here, but few were taught that most slaves
were not shipped to the United States.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Between ten point seven million and twelve million slaves from Africa.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Went to the New World. We got a little under
four hundred thousand.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Under four hundred thousand out of ten million.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
The extreme focus on slavery in the United States. Why
did that happen? One reason is that a lot of
black people survived here. Slavery was harsh, but it is
a lot less harsh than clearing the Brazilian jungle.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
All right, but American blacks are at a disadvantage. They
have less capital, financial and educational capital. What's the harm
and pointing out how abusive white people were.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
The harm is that pointing.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Out how abusive white people were is not going to
get black Americans anymore capital. Most of the problems of
the modern black community don't have any anything to do
with historical ethnic conflict.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
One hundred and sixty years ago, the Great Society asked
not how much, but how good?
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Riley says, most of the problems began when welfare began driving.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
The black community.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Every time I've tried to break this out increased about
eight hundred percent between say, nineteen sixty three and nineteen
ninety three. Racism didn't increase between nineteen sixty and the
modern era. You're looking at the impacts of the great society,
the welfare programs.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Riley argus, it's better to teach the truth that almost
every society had slavery. The as Secs, the Persians, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Vikings,
and most of all the Arab world.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
The Arabs were probably histories premier slave traders.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Sometimes they captured poor whites from Slavic countries.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
The Muslims, many of whom were dark skinned or even.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Black, took so many blonde slaves out of this region
that they gave the world slav slave to the globe
slave population.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Many slaves were forced into heroms.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Sexual slavery was a very much a part of slavery,
like if your group was defeated in war, the.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Men would probably just be killed or they'd be sold
as farm hands.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
The women would often be sold as harem girls or prostitutes.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
More than a million Europeans were enslaved, but Muslim slave
traders took more people from Africa.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
The Arabs targeting Africa took out about seventeen million people.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
The British and then the Americas were the rare people
who moved to abolish slavery.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So yeah, the British Navy, in a story almost no
one now knows, sank something like sixteen hundred slave ships.
It freed one hundred fifty thousand people that were enslaved
at the time.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Because the Brits objected for moral reasons, they had enough
of it. Saudi Arabia only abolished the slave trade relatively recently.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Well, it's another inconvenient fact, right.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
The Global Slavery Index estimates that even now all those
slaveries officially illegal, there are more than seven hundred thousand
slaves in Saudi Arabia where there were no Westerners.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
You'd have a lot of slavery for a long time, and.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
You knew American slavery was horrible, but it wasn't unique.
Our culture would be healthier if we learned about that.
And schools dwelling on America's evils hasn't helped Americans get
over them. Gallup Poles show that after schools started focusing
on oppression, race relations got worse.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The idea of generational slavery, the idea of slave trading,
none of that was unique to America.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And another thing, you.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Don't need radicalism to critique the worst excesses of an
existing system.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
All you need is incrementalism and honesty.