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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's that time, time, Time, time, luck, and load Change
of Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I return to this chamber tonight to report that America's
momentum is back, our spirit is back, our pride is back,
our confidence is back, and the American Dream is surging
bigger and better than ever before. This will be our
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greatest era. With God's help, over the next four years,
we are going to lead this nation even higher, and
we are going to forge the freest, most advanced, most dynamic,
and most dominant civilization ever to exist on the face
of this earth. We are going to create the highest
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quality of life, build the safest and wealthiest and healthiest
and most vital communities anywhere in the world. We are
going to conquer the vast frontiers of science, and we
are going to lead humanity into space and plant the
American flag on the planet Mars.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And even far beyond.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Through it all, we are going to rediscover the unstoppable
power of the American Spirit, and we are going to
renew unlimited promise of the American Dream. Every single day,
we will stand up and we will fight, fight, fight
for the country our citizens believe in, and for the
country our people deserve. My fellow Americans, get ready for
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an incredible future because.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
The Golden Age of.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
America has only just begun.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It will be like nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That has ever been seen before. Thank you, God bless you,
and God bless I'm often asked, because we do a
three hour morning show and this the evening show, do
we talk about the same things.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
On occasion, the subjects will be the same, the themes
of President Trump or what's going on in DC. But
largely the morning show I talk more Houston and Houston
region and Texas politics, and on this evening show more
issues of national concern because we have listeners from Oregon
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to New York, LA to Miami, and we don't want
to alienate folks with a local Houston show that wouldn't
be of interest. But occasionally Texas is at the forefront
of a national issue and we have a unique perspective
and we're going to share that. Today is one of
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those days. The House of Representatives is very narrowly held
by Republicans at present. I know you know this, but
I want to make sure we're all up to.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The same speed. Up to speed.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The Senate is barely narrowly held by the Republicans, and
you've got Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski willing to vote
for the Democrats more often than not. So that is
why JD. Vance has had to come in and break
ties when it's fifty to fifty. The vice president serves
as the presiding officer, the tie breaking officer, and.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So that's what you do. And by the way, there's
nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Kamala Harris wrote more Senate ties than any vice president
in American history by far. So it's well established. President,
it is constitutional, it is as it should be. But
we turned to the House.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
While the Senate is responsible for ratifying treaties, we don't
really do treaties anymore. Presidents just do what they want
to do when it comes to foreign policy. That's true
of every president. But what you do have is judicial
nomination nominations. And even though Republicans have the majority, what
they're doing right now is not going into recess. It
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is typically the case at this point in the year
that the Senate majority leader would resess the Senate. Go home, campaign,
you got some of you got primaries coming up in
the spring. Remember they have six year terms. Go home,
go shake hands, go on vacation, take some time off,
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all right, That's what would typically be done at this point.
That is not what's being done at this point. The
Senate Majority leader, just as Mitch McConnell did, is keeping
the Senate in session, at least on paper. What this
means a pro form a session of this type. What
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this means is that the president cannot get his what
are known as recess appointments through the Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Very frustrating.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That is an indulgence, a privilege typically offered to a
president that this Republican Majority leader is denying Donald Trump.
It's been done by every president since the beginning of time,
and this president is being denied that privilege. Those are
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important positions. Murkowski and Collins two supposed Republicans who don't
really vote with us. We're smirking, as Thune continued de
session the other day, and that has set off a
great deal of anger among the base because we know
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that those two are really Democrats, and more importantly, they
hate Trump. Murkowski can't even win a Republican primary in
the state of Alaska. She has to win with Democrat votes.
Very frustrating. She's not here to help Donald Trump and frankly,
neither is Susan Collins so thun because there was a
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congressional trip, a boondoggle the following day, and it's a
long and sordid history, a story as to why he
did what he did. But Fune is on the hot
seat now because of what he's doing to Trump. But
that's the Senate, that's where we are. Let's move to
the House. There is a very narrow majority in the House.
And as you know, out of four hundred and thirty five, Congressman,
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if you get to two hundred and eighteen, you've got
half plus one.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You get to elect the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
The House is not an equal populist, democratized body. It
is dominated by the speaker, from Sam Rayburn to Nancy
Pelosi and now Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson does not wield
the power of the speaker the way the most powerful
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speaker in American history, Nancy Pelosi did, But he does
still convene the body. He still does convene the committee chairmanships.
He makes the committee chairmanships well. Texas is at the
forefront of whether or not there will be a House majority.
If there's not a House majority, the stakes are high.
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They will impeach Trump again. They will investigate Trump, they
will harass Trump. They will spend his last two years
from January of twenty seven through the end of the
twenty eighth term harassing him. And Texas is an opportunity
to flip five seats. This is monumental. And I'll tell
you what's going on. The nation's battle is being pitched
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in Texas right now, and we'll tell you about it
coming up.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And what I see all over the place is people
who care about looking good while doing evil. The Michael
Very Hugh. So, what's happened.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Is in many states, the jerrymandering.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Based on race.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Has created situations where Republicans may make up forty percent
of a state and they end up with ten percent
of the congressional districts. The jerrymandering that has occurred in
New York, California, and Illinois alone is grotesque. It is
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we go back to the taxation without representation.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
It is election fraud, and it is the.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Sorts of things that leave people feeling disenfranchised, that leave
people feeling that evil is afoot in our country and
that things are wrong. It's the same mindset dare I
say it of Saddam Hussein ruling with an iron fist
over the people of Iraq when he and his both
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party were out of step with the people of the country,
but they controlled the means of brutality and authoritarianism. So
there was always simmering beneath the surface, an anger, a
brooding anger against Saddam, and that's what eventually turned on him.
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That's what eventually cost him and sent him into running
into hiding. And by the way, that also happened with
Momar Kadaffi in Libya, where you have a small tribe,
a small group, a small sect, a small inner. It
happened to Asad in Syria. And you see these folks
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that when the outside protection of the superpowers is withdrawn,
they end up fomenting these rebellions. And in fact, we've
seen this across the Middle East where the Muslim Brotherhood
or Isis or al Qaeda or one of these groups
hesbella is able to recruit because the party in power
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governs with such an iron hand and suppresses descent. Well,
all you do is send that descent underground. You make
it more angry, and frankly, that's what led to the
Trump presidency the first time in twenty sixteen, people didn't
want more Clinton's. We had Hillary as an option, We'd
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already had eight years of Bill Barack was supporting.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We didn't want more of that.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
But frankly, we also didn't want more of the controlled
opposition Jeb Bush representing the Bush family, we didn't want
more of the same. So Trump represented, as much as anything,
a candidate who was going to burn the place down,
and that's what it needed. That's what it needed. Then
you have the twenty twenty snap back, where the institutions
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of power decided, we're not allowing any more of this.
We're going to set them up on January sixth, we're
going to impeach Trump twice. We're going to investigate him
with Robert Mueller. We're going to hound him out of office.
And once they drove him out of office, what did
they do? They hounded him. They raided his wife's panty drawers,
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probably looking for the documents that he's now exposing. He
had the good sense not to secret them at his home.
They did all sorts of things. They dragged him to court,
the E. J. Carroll case, the Stormy Daniel's case, Jack
Smith harassing him.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Fat Fanny, the.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Mistress of Nathan Wade in Atlanta, Big Tish in New York.
They dragged this man through the mud. Nobody would have
been able to withstand what they did.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So here we are.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Trump says, I'm not going to sit idly by while
the Democrats take back the House of Representatives. We've got
jerrymandering that is wrong in Texas. We need to fit it.
So a new map is created that more fairly and
justly represents the population of the state of Texas and
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the congressional districts. And it is expected to have the
effect that five seats will flip from Democrat to Republican.
One of them, and isn't this glorious is the seat
currently held by Jasmine Crockett. Jasmine Crockett is the ghetto
girl who runs around screeching and hollering and saying stupid things,
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because that's how you get quoted. The dumber the things
you say, the more people quote them, even if just
to laugh at you. She is now the face and
the voice of the Democrat Party, and that's how we
want to keep it. But she would be outside the
district that she currently represents to the extent that she
represents the district. Now it should be noted, and I
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want to say this a few times, that just because
she no longer lives in the district that she currently represents,
once that district is redistricted, even though she doesn't live there,
she doesn't have to move into that district because you
are not required to live inside the district that you represent.
That's a little quirk that a lot of people don't know.
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In fact, you had this fellow as Off in Georgia,
and you'll remember he won an election for an unexpired term.
I don't remember why the term. I don't remember why
the seat even popped up.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Maybe it was, uh oh, who was it?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Somebody had run for an office and had to vacate
their seat, and he ran for it and didn't live
in the district where he was, but it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
He still got elected.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
So now President Trump is very invested in the state
of Texas redistricting plan. So the Democrats, who make up
less than half of the one hundred and fifty state reps,
they have sixty some odd seats. I think it's sixty two,
but we have to have a two thirds majority. So
one hundred out of one hundred and fifty of the
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state reps be present in order to pass a bill. Well,
we have a number of bills pending during a special
session right now. That's a session that was held after
the general legislative session. And one of the things that
is an important bill is a flooding bill. We had
these horrible floods, as you know, we lost these little
girls that can't miss it. It's just heavy on the
mind of a lot of Texans. So the Democrats have
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fled the state because they're not going to sit idly
by and show up in the chambers with a minority
of voters and accept the will of the majority Republicans.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
They're not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
They're going to shut down the government, meaning the government
cannot operate. The House cannot operate without a quorum without
two thirds of the members, a provision long standing in
Anglo American governance. It basically says three members of a
body can't run off and say we pass sis bill
and bring it back all the elected all the elected
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officials need to have the opportunity to represent their district. Well, Democrats,
knowing they can't win, have fled the state. To frustrate
the state legislature and prevent it from being able to
operate as it's supposed to. So now you've got the
governor who's gone to the Supreme Court to have the
leader of the Democrats removed from the House altogether from
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his position. You've got the Attorney General and the Speaker
of the House who've brought cases, who brought action.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
All of this is scheduled to hit by Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
And now President Trump is being asked if the FBI
should come in and arrest these folks, which I would
love to see, but I don't expect it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And again Trump has impressed me before. Michael conjunction. Junction,
how's that function?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Erot Gloomball used to glowingly, lovingly refer to Mark Levin
as the great One. You probably know the story, but
Martin Levin used to brief Rush Limbaugh on legal matters
he served in the Mees administration.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You've seen him on Fox News. You've certainly heard.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Him on the radio, where he has one of the
largest audiences in all of talk radio history. You may
have seen him speak in person. He's very effective. But
he first came to my attention with a book called
men in robes how the Supreme Court was destroying America,
and it was a book against judicial activism, something we
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haven't talked about in far too long and far often enough.
I don't know what he's best at, television, speaking radio,
but I know he is an incredibly, incredibly accomplished author,
and I think part of the beauty there is you
have time with your thoughts, and he has big ones
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to reduce those thoughts, to edit, to review, to share,
to present, and then it lasts forever when everything else
seems to vaporize that we do. He's written another book.
He's written on liberty, tyranny, Marxism. In fact, maybe the
best selling book ever by Mark Levin was about a dog,
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a rescue dog. I think it showed a human, tender
side of him that we all wanted to see. It
was fantastic. But today he joins us to talk about
another subject that is at the core of politics, culture, relationships,
and most everything else, and that is power. The book
is Mark R. Levin on Power. Welcome Mark.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
You know, Michael, I could sit here and listen to
you all day.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You know, we air at the same time, so we
don't get to listen to each other. I would be
remiss if I didn't say. My first opportunity to speak
to a national audience was when Mark Levin honored me
by anointing me to be one of his guest's hosts.
Oh fifteen years or so, maybe almost twenty years ago.
It was and still is a great honor that I
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consider a feather in my caps are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You know, Michael, you are a great a great broadcaster,
but people need to know you're a great lawyer. And
in fact, the first time we met, I'm trying to remember,
you invited me.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Was it Houston, Yep?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And we went to Capital Grill. We went to Capitol Grill.
Weren't you a judge down there or something. I'm trying
to remember.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I was the mayor pro tem of the city at
the time. Yeah, you got a hell of a memory.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Brother, the mayor pro tem and quite a gentleman. You're
terristic man. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I think the last time I saw you, we were
in Aspen, Colorado. You were speaking at an event. It
was a real, real high dollar fundraiser for Republican candidates.
It was at the home of will Van Lowe up
on top of a hill, overlooking the how you gave
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a rousing speech, a call to activism. And I would
have loved to have been the preacher at the church
where the hat was being passed and you.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Had delivered the altar call.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Because there were some checks written that day, my friend,
some checks written that day. Mark R. Levint on power.
First of all, why this subject?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
What was this? Or Mark Levin on drugs, you know,
or Mark Olivant and his daily Big Mac.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
That's right, I'll tell you why. Because I had this
injury and I was in bed for about two and
a half.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Months, which I hated.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And so I'm staring at the ceiling and the nerd
side of me comes out, and I start to think
about these things, and.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I'm thinking, maybe I'm wrong about some of this.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Of course, we fight a argue about liberty and analienable
rights and these sorts of things, but it's really about power.
As I'm sitting here, I'm thinking about it, and I'm
thinking that revolutionary rules over power, representative government, what kind
of government? Who would represent whom? And then I get
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to thinking about the Declaration of Independence? What's that all about?
And then I'm thinking about modern day with a hard
left the Marxists and the radical Islamists are constantly trying
to seize power, and they're trying to constantly try to
jump the barriers in our constitution. And I said, you know,
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maybe I need to readjust this a little bit. So
I put pen to paper and I started thinking about it,
and I came up with this book on power, and
I decided power is the central issue, because liberty without
rights is nothing, and rights without power is.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Not or nothing, And so how or is the central issue.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
And then when you think about the founding, the reason
this country's great is because it's based on Judeo Christian values.
Now that doesn't mean everyone has to be Jewish or
Christian or believe in it, but that's how the country
was founded. And the belief is, of course that God
is sovereign and that on earth his children are sovereign
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when it comes to government and so many other things.
So each of us are sovereign. And in the civil society,
in the community, we are the sovereign, not the government,
not a handful of people running the government. And then
what else or what else is the enlightenment? And so
they fuse this thinking of the Judeo Christian value system
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with the Enlightenment. And one of the key things that
came out of the Enlightenment that Montesquie wrote about, and
of course all the way up to SCALEA people have
argued for, is this power checking power in order to
protect the individual and our sovereignty. This is the only
nation ever that mankind is constructed with this fusion of
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this Judeo Christian belief system with the Enlightenment. And as
I explained in the book, the other side, I say,
this is positive power, and I explained it at some length,
and negative power. The other side doesn't believe any of this.
That's why they never talked about God. They never when
they read the declaration, they cut out the four times
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that God has mentioned.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They don't reverence that.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
And again, you don't even have to believe in God
to understand that you benefit from this, no matter who
you are, or where you're from, or what your background is.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's why I say tolerant.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Beautiful, magnificent type society as opposed to these centralized police states,
these coercive, miserable countries in which they reject this. So
the American Marxists and these radical Islamis who poured into
our country. Their belief system is utterly incongruent with the
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American funding and the American experiments, utterly utterly incongruent because
they come at this from a completely different mindset.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Does that Does that help? Yeah, I've raised more questions.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's it's you've got me thinking.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Does that I got about thirty seconds in this segment.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Do you does that mean that these individuals at a
certain level need to be restricted for intrigue because, as
you've said, and I think most people believe, there are
certain people from certain cultures who will never share the
American values that are central to our proper operation of
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our democratic republic.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Well, to go back to the original meaning of immigration,
immigration was intended to help the citizens who are here now.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
People come to.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
This country to benefit our country in the existing citizenry,
not to replace them. So people have to come to
the country we're willing to assimilate, have allegiance to this country.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
This used to be the test. It's absolutely not the
test in law.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It's a very good point. We're talking to the great one,
Mark Levin. The book is on power, and we'll continue
our concerts coming over the.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Words of George and Art Shore and the words that
were taken by Robert F.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
P These children speak Chinese and banner. Michael Mark Levin
Bob is my friend.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
He is a speaker, a writer, a radio host, a
television broadcaster, and a great American patriot. It's our honor
to have him on the show. His latest book is
called On Power. I'm not intending to stump you, Mark,
I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
If if you've given this thought, give it a child.
I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So potters Throward, of course couldn't define pornographies. And I
know it when I see it. When you talk about
on power, you use this word. What does power mean
to you? Is it control?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
It depends. Positive power is intended to nurture this individual, sovereignty,
to nurture the individual and the civil society. Look forget
about government for a second. Let's say civil society's Locke
talked about it. You still need some level of power
ordered liberty to protect people's persons, to protect their property,
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to have some means of coordinating the society and so forth.
So that's power, that's very positive power. But negative power
is about coercion and force, and it's certainly not about
consensual government or representative government or anything of the kind.
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So I spend a lot of time on chapter two
explaining what the powers, chapter three explaining what positive power is. Now,
I'll tell you what's interesting as I keep, you know,
thinking these things through over and over again and researching
and thinking the chapter on liberty. Do you know nobody
really can define liberty. I mean, they give it a shot,
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and the closest to me is actually Jefferson. But that
set it's mostly defined by what it's not, it's mostly
defined by what the problem is. I went back and
I read On Liberty by John Stewart Mill and it's
great book, and you get all the way to the
end and there's and there's a paragraph and that that
kind of does everything that he said. And you know,
the libertarians love that book. I don't blame them. So
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I get into that. I go back to Aristotle, who
talks about liberty but doesn't really define. They go back
to Cicero, who talks about liberty but really doesn't define.
I go on Adams, Sam Adams, and I'm looking and
I'm looking, and I'm looking, and it's one of those
words that is mostly defined by what it's not sure,
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And I thought that was very interesting. But the reason
that's in there is because words like liberty and rights
and little deed democracy are used by the negative power crowd,
the fascist Islamists, the Marxists and so forth.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
They use those words to do.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
To confound. That's why it's the People's Republic of China.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No it's not, but.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
That's what they call it. Or the Democratic Party, No
it's not. There's nothing democratic about that party. And they
do this all the time. They talk about equality. You know,
equality without liberty is North Korea. You still need liberty.
I mean, you can't just have equality, whatever that means.
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And so I get into this in the book. I
have a chapter on language and fuck control. This whole
wocism is about controlling the way people think, creating obedience.
The Scarlett lettery goes on people who don't comply and conform,
whereas the positive power side is we don't want that.
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We're not looking for obedience or that sort of thing.
We're looking for knowledgeable debates, real discussions on policies and
issues like we do on radio and so forth, so
we can come up with the best ideas and so with.
And so we've used speech as a way of communicating.
They view speech as a way of controlling and reinforcing,
and so I get into that end of the book
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as well.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Mark Levin is our guest. The book is on Power.
He's fantastic writer. If you've I can't imagine, But if
you haven't read, what he's written before is an entire
body of work.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
The latest is on Power.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I'm curious, as a form of as a medium, how
you approach writing versus you know, you're a guy that
has hours with millions every day night. You also do
a television program, you are widely heard. How do you
approach writing differently?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You know, writing allows my brain to go where it
can't otherwise go. I know that sounds weird, but it's
a very sort of solemn task. And what's very interesting
is if I were to ask anybody in the audience,
do you remember what I said on the radio five
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tuesdays ago?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Of course they don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
But if you want to talk about the written word,
the written word, people remember, or they remember at least
some of it, or they can pull it off the
shelf and take another look at it, or listen to
the audio version of it. So to me, the written
word outlasts the spoken word, even though the spoken word
is crucial.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
In the moment. So when I write, I'm very careful
about what I write.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I really do put my brain to work to try
and figure out of things that I'm saying are rational
and logical. And these books have a purpose. They're like
puzzle pieces. So each book really follows the next book
in its own way.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
This book I wrote differently.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
This book I wrote and what I think is a
very complicated issue in a very understandable, I hope, and
way that people can grasp it very quickly.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I can find my mother in law. It was ninety
six years old.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
She was sitting at and reading it from beginning to end,
and I said to her, and Sylvilly said, I love
this book. And she just reads it from beginning to end.
Some of the other books, you know, people might read
a few chapters and they'll put it down and so forth.
But I find people are going right through this thing.
And that's what I wanted to write, and I wanted
to write it in a way that has an impact,
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because I do think this is where we are are,
despite the Trump presidency, and I'm a huge fan of
what he's been doing. The fact is elections have cycles.
We don't know what's going to happen in the next election.
And the fact is when the Democrats win, they try
to make permanent changes, permanent to the system. They're not
interested in just you know, having powerful four years. They're
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interested in having power period. As I explained in the book.
In fact, that's all they're about. And if we don't
understand that, that's what they're about. They're not about the
food stamp program or this program or that program. They
are about seizing control over you and over the society.
They are authoritarian democrats. That's what I call them in
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the book, authoritarian democrats. We go through the voting system,
we have these three branches of government, we have a constitution.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
But they don't believe in any of it. In the end.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
That's why they threaten them, want to pack the Supreme Court.
That's why they brought in, you know, millions of people
to replace the citizenry. That's why they trash the constitution
and who wrote the constitution while they wave it around
and pretend, depending on the event, whether they support it,
and I can go on and on and on. These
are not people who support the American experiment that professors don't,
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the politicians don't, and so it is very important to
understand what we're up against here.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
This is a battle over power. I hope folks will
read it.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I hope it has what I suspect is the intended consequence,
which is to understand how people acquire and wield the power.
When I can guarantee you you are going to learn
a lot, because Mark Levin is, more than anything else,
a teacher just as Rush was, and a great teacher
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he is. I'm proud to call him my friend. The
book is on Power by Mark Arlevin. Mark, as always,
I've learned a lot and I've enjoyed our time together.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Keep up the great work, my friend. Move to brother.
I love you. You'd take carriers
It's that time, time, Time, time, luck, and load Change
of Michael Verie Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I return to this chamber tonight to report that America's
momentum is back, our spirit is back, our pride is back,
our confidence is back, and the American Dream is surging
bigger and better than ever before. This will be our
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greatest era. With God's help, over the next four years,
we are going to lead this nation even higher, and
we are going to forge the freest, most advanced, most dynamic,
and most dominant civilization ever to exist on the face
of this earth. We are going to create the highest
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quality of life, build the safest and wealthiest and healthiest
and most vital communities anywhere in the world. We are
going to conquer the vast frontiers of science, and we
are going to lead humanity into space and plant the
American flag on the planet Mars.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And even far beyond.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Through it all, we are going to rediscover the unstoppable
power of the American Spirit, and we are going to
renew unlimited promise of the American Dream. Every single day,
we will stand up and we will fight, fight, fight
for the country our citizens believe in, and for the
country our people deserve. My fellow Americans, get ready for
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an incredible future because.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
The Golden Age of.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
America has only just begun.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It will be like nothing.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That has ever been seen before. Thank you, God bless you,
and God bless I'm often asked, because we do a
three hour morning show and this the evening show, do
we talk about the same things.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
On occasion, the subjects will be the same, the themes
of President Trump or what's going on in DC. But
largely the morning show I talk more Houston and Houston
region and Texas politics, and on this evening show more
issues of national concern because we have listeners from Oregon
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to New York, LA to Miami, and we don't want
to alienate folks with a local Houston show that wouldn't
be of interest. But occasionally Texas is at the forefront
of a national issue and we have a unique perspective
and we're going to share that. Today is one of
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those days. The House of Representatives is very narrowly held
by Republicans at present. I know you know this, but
I want to make sure we're all up to.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The same speed. Up to speed.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The Senate is barely narrowly held by the Republicans, and
you've got Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski willing to vote
for the Democrats more often than not. So that is
why JD. Vance has had to come in and break
ties when it's fifty to fifty. The vice president serves
as the presiding officer, the tie breaking officer, and.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So that's what you do. And by the way, there's
nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Kamala Harris wrote more Senate ties than any vice president
in American history by far. So it's well established. President,
it is constitutional, it is as it should be. But
we turned to the House.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
While the Senate is responsible for ratifying treaties, we don't
really do treaties anymore. Presidents just do what they want
to do when it comes to foreign policy. That's true
of every president. But what you do have is judicial
nomination nominations. And even though Republicans have the majority, what
they're doing right now is not going into recess. It
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is typically the case at this point in the year
that the Senate majority leader would resess the Senate. Go home, campaign,
you got some of you got primaries coming up in
the spring. Remember they have six year terms. Go home,
go shake hands, go on vacation, take some time off,
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all right, That's what would typically be done at this point.
That is not what's being done at this point. The
Senate Majority leader, just as Mitch McConnell did, is keeping
the Senate in session, at least on paper. What this
means a pro form a session of this type. What
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this means is that the president cannot get his what
are known as recess appointments through the Senate.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Very frustrating.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That is an indulgence, a privilege typically offered to a
president that this Republican Majority leader is denying Donald Trump.
It's been done by every president since the beginning of time,
and this president is being denied that privilege. Those are
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important positions. Murkowski and Collins two supposed Republicans who don't
really vote with us. We're smirking, as Thune continued de
session the other day, and that has set off a
great deal of anger among the base because we know
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that those two are really Democrats, and more importantly, they
hate Trump. Murkowski can't even win a Republican primary in
the state of Alaska. She has to win with Democrat votes.
Very frustrating. She's not here to help Donald Trump and frankly,
neither is Susan Collins so thun because there was a
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congressional trip, a boondoggle the following day, and it's a
long and sordid history, a story as to why he
did what he did. But Fune is on the hot
seat now because of what he's doing to Trump. But
that's the Senate, that's where we are. Let's move to
the House. There is a very narrow majority in the House.
And as you know, out of four hundred and thirty five, Congressman,
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if you get to two hundred and eighteen, you've got
half plus one.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You get to elect the Speaker of the House.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
The House is not an equal populist, democratized body. It
is dominated by the speaker, from Sam Rayburn to Nancy
Pelosi and now Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson does not wield
the power of the speaker the way the most powerful
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speaker in American history, Nancy Pelosi did, But he does
still convene the body. He still does convene the committee chairmanships.
He makes the committee chairmanships well. Texas is at the
forefront of whether or not there will be a House majority.
If there's not a House majority, the stakes are high.
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They will impeach Trump again. They will investigate Trump, they
will harass Trump. They will spend his last two years
from January of twenty seven through the end of the
twenty eighth term harassing him. And Texas is an opportunity
to flip five seats. This is monumental. And I'll tell
you what's going on. The nation's battle is being pitched
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in Texas right now, and we'll tell you about it
coming up.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And what I see all over the place is people
who care about looking good while doing evil. The Michael
Very Hugh. So, what's happened.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Is in many states, the jerrymandering.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Based on race.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Has created situations where Republicans may make up forty percent
of a state and they end up with ten percent
of the congressional districts. The jerrymandering that has occurred in
New York, California, and Illinois alone is grotesque. It is
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we go back to the taxation without representation.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
It is election fraud, and it is the.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Sorts of things that leave people feeling disenfranchised, that leave
people feeling that evil is afoot in our country and
that things are wrong. It's the same mindset dare I
say it of Saddam Hussein ruling with an iron fist
over the people of Iraq when he and his both
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party were out of step with the people of the country,
but they controlled the means of brutality and authoritarianism. So
there was always simmering beneath the surface, an anger, a
brooding anger against Saddam, and that's what eventually turned on him.
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That's what eventually cost him and sent him into running
into hiding. And by the way, that also happened with
Momar Kadaffi in Libya, where you have a small tribe,
a small group, a small sect, a small inner. It
happened to Asad in Syria. And you see these folks
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that when the outside protection of the superpowers is withdrawn,
they end up fomenting these rebellions. And in fact, we've
seen this across the Middle East where the Muslim Brotherhood
or Isis or al Qaeda or one of these groups
hesbella is able to recruit because the party in power
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governs with such an iron hand and suppresses descent. Well,
all you do is send that descent underground. You make
it more angry, and frankly, that's what led to the
Trump presidency the first time in twenty sixteen, people didn't
want more Clinton's. We had Hillary as an option, We'd
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already had eight years of Bill Barack was supporting.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We didn't want more of that.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
But frankly, we also didn't want more of the controlled
opposition Jeb Bush representing the Bush family, we didn't want
more of the same. So Trump represented, as much as anything,
a candidate who was going to burn the place down,
and that's what it needed. That's what it needed. Then
you have the twenty twenty snap back, where the institutions
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of power decided, we're not allowing any more of this.
We're going to set them up on January sixth, we're
going to impeach Trump twice. We're going to investigate him
with Robert Mueller. We're going to hound him out of office.
And once they drove him out of office, what did
they do? They hounded him. They raided his wife's panty drawers,
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probably looking for the documents that he's now exposing. He
had the good sense not to secret them at his home.
They did all sorts of things. They dragged him to court,
the E. J. Carroll case, the Stormy Daniel's case, Jack
Smith harassing him.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Fat Fanny, the.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Mistress of Nathan Wade in Atlanta, Big Tish in New York.
They dragged this man through the mud. Nobody would have
been able to withstand what they did.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So here we are.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Trump says, I'm not going to sit idly by while
the Democrats take back the House of Representatives. We've got
jerrymandering that is wrong in Texas. We need to fit it.
So a new map is created that more fairly and
justly represents the population of the state of Texas and
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the congressional districts. And it is expected to have the
effect that five seats will flip from Democrat to Republican.
One of them, and isn't this glorious is the seat
currently held by Jasmine Crockett. Jasmine Crockett is the ghetto
girl who runs around screeching and hollering and saying stupid things,
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because that's how you get quoted. The dumber the things
you say, the more people quote them, even if just
to laugh at you. She is now the face and
the voice of the Democrat Party, and that's how we
want to keep it. But she would be outside the
district that she currently represents to the extent that she
represents the district. Now it should be noted, and I
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want to say this a few times, that just because
she no longer lives in the district that she currently represents,
once that district is redistricted, even though she doesn't live there,
she doesn't have to move into that district because you
are not required to live inside the district that you represent.
That's a little quirk that a lot of people don't know.
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In fact, you had this fellow as Off in Georgia,
and you'll remember he won an election for an unexpired term.
I don't remember why the term. I don't remember why
the seat even popped up.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Maybe it was, uh oh, who was it?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Somebody had run for an office and had to vacate
their seat, and he ran for it and didn't live
in the district where he was, but it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
He still got elected.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
So now President Trump is very invested in the state
of Texas redistricting plan. So the Democrats, who make up
less than half of the one hundred and fifty state reps,
they have sixty some odd seats. I think it's sixty two,
but we have to have a two thirds majority. So
one hundred out of one hundred and fifty of the
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state reps be present in order to pass a bill. Well,
we have a number of bills pending during a special
session right now. That's a session that was held after
the general legislative session. And one of the things that
is an important bill is a flooding bill. We had
these horrible floods, as you know, we lost these little
girls that can't miss it. It's just heavy on the
mind of a lot of Texans. So the Democrats have
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fled the state because they're not going to sit idly
by and show up in the chambers with a minority
of voters and accept the will of the majority Republicans.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
They're not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
They're going to shut down the government, meaning the government
cannot operate. The House cannot operate without a quorum without
two thirds of the members, a provision long standing in
Anglo American governance. It basically says three members of a
body can't run off and say we pass sis bill
and bring it back all the elected all the elected
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officials need to have the opportunity to represent their district. Well, Democrats,
knowing they can't win, have fled the state. To frustrate
the state legislature and prevent it from being able to
operate as it's supposed to. So now you've got the
governor who's gone to the Supreme Court to have the
leader of the Democrats removed from the House altogether from
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his position. You've got the Attorney General and the Speaker
of the House who've brought cases, who brought action.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
All of this is scheduled to hit by Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
And now President Trump is being asked if the FBI
should come in and arrest these folks, which I would
love to see, but I don't expect it.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And again Trump has impressed me before. Michael conjunction. Junction,
how's that function?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Erot Gloomball used to glowingly, lovingly refer to Mark Levin
as the great One. You probably know the story, but
Martin Levin used to brief Rush Limbaugh on legal matters
he served in the Mees administration.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You've seen him on Fox News. You've certainly heard.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Him on the radio, where he has one of the
largest audiences in all of talk radio history. You may
have seen him speak in person. He's very effective. But
he first came to my attention with a book called
men in robes how the Supreme Court was destroying America,
and it was a book against judicial activism, something we
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haven't talked about in far too long and far often enough.
I don't know what he's best at, television, speaking radio,
but I know he is an incredibly, incredibly accomplished author,
and I think part of the beauty there is you
have time with your thoughts, and he has big ones
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to reduce those thoughts, to edit, to review, to share,
to present, and then it lasts forever when everything else
seems to vaporize that we do. He's written another book.
He's written on liberty, tyranny, Marxism. In fact, maybe the
best selling book ever by Mark Levin was about a dog,
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a rescue dog. I think it showed a human, tender
side of him that we all wanted to see. It
was fantastic. But today he joins us to talk about
another subject that is at the core of politics, culture, relationships,
and most everything else, and that is power. The book
is Mark R. Levin on Power. Welcome Mark.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
You know, Michael, I could sit here and listen to
you all day.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
You know, we air at the same time, so we
don't get to listen to each other. I would be
remiss if I didn't say. My first opportunity to speak
to a national audience was when Mark Levin honored me
by anointing me to be one of his guest's hosts.
Oh fifteen years or so, maybe almost twenty years ago.
It was and still is a great honor that I
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consider a feather in my caps are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
You know, Michael, you are a great a great broadcaster,
but people need to know you're a great lawyer. And
in fact, the first time we met, I'm trying to remember,
you invited me.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Was it Houston, Yep?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And we went to Capital Grill. We went to Capitol Grill.
Weren't you a judge down there or something. I'm trying
to remember.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I was the mayor pro tem of the city at
the time. Yeah, you got a hell of a memory.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Brother, the mayor pro tem and quite a gentleman. You're
terristic man. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I think the last time I saw you, we were
in Aspen, Colorado. You were speaking at an event. It
was a real, real high dollar fundraiser for Republican candidates.
It was at the home of will Van Lowe up
on top of a hill, overlooking the how you gave
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a rousing speech, a call to activism. And I would
have loved to have been the preacher at the church
where the hat was being passed and you.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Had delivered the altar call.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Because there were some checks written that day, my friend,
some checks written that day. Mark R. Levint on power.
First of all, why this subject?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
What was this? Or Mark Levin on drugs, you know,
or Mark Olivant and his daily Big Mac.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
That's right, I'll tell you why. Because I had this
injury and I was in bed for about two and
a half.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Months, which I hated.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
And so I'm staring at the ceiling and the nerd
side of me comes out, and I start to think
about these things, and.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I'm thinking, maybe I'm wrong about some of this.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Of course, we fight a argue about liberty and analienable
rights and these sorts of things, but it's really about power.
As I'm sitting here, I'm thinking about it, and I'm
thinking that revolutionary rules over power, representative government, what kind
of government? Who would represent whom? And then I get
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to thinking about the Declaration of Independence? What's that all about?
And then I'm thinking about modern day with a hard
left the Marxists and the radical Islamists are constantly trying
to seize power, and they're trying to constantly try to
jump the barriers in our constitution. And I said, you know,
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maybe I need to readjust this a little bit. So
I put pen to paper and I started thinking about it,
and I came up with this book on power, and
I decided power is the central issue, because liberty without
rights is nothing, and rights without power is.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Not or nothing, And so how or is the central issue.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
And then when you think about the founding, the reason
this country's great is because it's based on Judeo Christian values.
Now that doesn't mean everyone has to be Jewish or
Christian or believe in it, but that's how the country
was founded. And the belief is, of course that God
is sovereign and that on earth his children are sovereign
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when it comes to government and so many other things.
So each of us are sovereign. And in the civil society,
in the community, we are the sovereign, not the government,
not a handful of people running the government. And then
what else or what else is the enlightenment? And so
they fuse this thinking of the Judeo Christian value system
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with the Enlightenment. And one of the key things that
came out of the Enlightenment that Montesquie wrote about, and
of course all the way up to SCALEA people have
argued for, is this power checking power in order to
protect the individual and our sovereignty. This is the only
nation ever that mankind is constructed with this fusion of
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this Judeo Christian belief system with the Enlightenment. And as
I explained in the book, the other side, I say,
this is positive power, and I explained it at some length,
and negative power. The other side doesn't believe any of this.
That's why they never talked about God. They never when
they read the declaration, they cut out the four times
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that God has mentioned.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They don't reverence that.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
And again, you don't even have to believe in God
to understand that you benefit from this, no matter who
you are, or where you're from, or what your background is.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's why I say tolerant.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Beautiful, magnificent type society as opposed to these centralized police states,
these coercive, miserable countries in which they reject this. So
the American Marxists and these radical Islamis who poured into
our country. Their belief system is utterly incongruent with the
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American funding and the American experiments, utterly utterly incongruent because
they come at this from a completely different mindset.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Does that Does that help? Yeah, I've raised more questions.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
It's it's you've got me thinking.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Does that I got about thirty seconds in this segment.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Do you does that mean that these individuals at a
certain level need to be restricted for intrigue because, as
you've said, and I think most people believe, there are
certain people from certain cultures who will never share the
American values that are central to our proper operation of
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our democratic republic.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Well, to go back to the original meaning of immigration,
immigration was intended to help the citizens who are here now.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
People come to.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
This country to benefit our country in the existing citizenry,
not to replace them. So people have to come to
the country we're willing to assimilate, have allegiance to this country.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
This used to be the test. It's absolutely not the
test in law.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
It's a very good point. We're talking to the great one,
Mark Levin. The book is on power, and we'll continue
our concerts coming over the.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Words of George and Art Shore and the words that
were taken by Robert F.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
P These children speak Chinese and banner. Michael Mark Levin
Bob is my friend.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
He is a speaker, a writer, a radio host, a
television broadcaster, and a great American patriot. It's our honor
to have him on the show. His latest book is
called On Power. I'm not intending to stump you, Mark,
I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
If if you've given this thought, give it a child.
I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
So potters Throward, of course couldn't define pornographies. And I
know it when I see it. When you talk about
on power, you use this word. What does power mean
to you? Is it control?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
It depends. Positive power is intended to nurture this individual, sovereignty,
to nurture the individual and the civil society. Look forget
about government for a second. Let's say civil society's Locke
talked about it. You still need some level of power
ordered liberty to protect people's persons, to protect their property,
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to have some means of coordinating the society and so forth.
So that's power, that's very positive power. But negative power
is about coercion and force, and it's certainly not about
consensual government or representative government or anything of the kind.
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So I spend a lot of time on chapter two
explaining what the powers, chapter three explaining what positive power is. Now,
I'll tell you what's interesting as I keep, you know,
thinking these things through over and over again and researching
and thinking the chapter on liberty. Do you know nobody
really can define liberty. I mean, they give it a shot,
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and the closest to me is actually Jefferson. But that
set it's mostly defined by what it's not, it's mostly
defined by what the problem is. I went back and
I read On Liberty by John Stewart Mill and it's
great book, and you get all the way to the
end and there's and there's a paragraph and that that
kind of does everything that he said. And you know,
the libertarians love that book. I don't blame them. So
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I get into that. I go back to Aristotle, who
talks about liberty but doesn't really define. They go back
to Cicero, who talks about liberty but really doesn't define.
I go on Adams, Sam Adams, and I'm looking and
I'm looking, and I'm looking, and it's one of those
words that is mostly defined by what it's not sure,
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And I thought that was very interesting. But the reason
that's in there is because words like liberty and rights
and little deed democracy are used by the negative power crowd,
the fascist Islamists, the Marxists and so forth.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
They use those words to do.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
To confound. That's why it's the People's Republic of China.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No it's not, but.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
That's what they call it. Or the Democratic Party, No
it's not. There's nothing democratic about that party. And they
do this all the time. They talk about equality. You know,
equality without liberty is North Korea. You still need liberty.
I mean, you can't just have equality, whatever that means.
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And so I get into this in the book. I
have a chapter on language and fuck control. This whole
wocism is about controlling the way people think, creating obedience.
The Scarlett lettery goes on people who don't comply and conform,
whereas the positive power side is we don't want that.
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We're not looking for obedience or that sort of thing.
We're looking for knowledgeable debates, real discussions on policies and
issues like we do on radio and so forth, so
we can come up with the best ideas and so with.
And so we've used speech as a way of communicating.
They view speech as a way of controlling and reinforcing,
and so I get into that end of the book
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as well.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Mark Levin is our guest. The book is on Power.
He's fantastic writer. If you've I can't imagine, But if
you haven't read, what he's written before is an entire
body of work.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
The latest is on Power.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I'm curious, as a form of as a medium, how
you approach writing versus you know, you're a guy that
has hours with millions every day night. You also do
a television program, you are widely heard. How do you
approach writing differently?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You know, writing allows my brain to go where it
can't otherwise go. I know that sounds weird, but it's
a very sort of solemn task. And what's very interesting
is if I were to ask anybody in the audience,
do you remember what I said on the radio five
(29:32):
tuesdays ago?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Of course they don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
But if you want to talk about the written word,
the written word, people remember, or they remember at least
some of it, or they can pull it off the
shelf and take another look at it, or listen to
the audio version of it. So to me, the written
word outlasts the spoken word, even though the spoken word
is crucial.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
In the moment. So when I write, I'm very careful
about what I write.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I really do put my brain to work to try
and figure out of things that I'm saying are rational
and logical. And these books have a purpose. They're like
puzzle pieces. So each book really follows the next book
in its own way.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
This book I wrote differently.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
This book I wrote and what I think is a
very complicated issue in a very understandable, I hope, and
way that people can grasp it very quickly.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I can find my mother in law. It was ninety
six years old.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
She was sitting at and reading it from beginning to end,
and I said to her, and Sylvilly said, I love
this book. And she just reads it from beginning to end.
Some of the other books, you know, people might read
a few chapters and they'll put it down and so forth.
But I find people are going right through this thing.
And that's what I wanted to write, and I wanted
to write it in a way that has an impact,
(30:56):
because I do think this is where we are are,
despite the Trump presidency, and I'm a huge fan of
what he's been doing. The fact is elections have cycles.
We don't know what's going to happen in the next election.
And the fact is when the Democrats win, they try
to make permanent changes, permanent to the system. They're not
interested in just you know, having powerful four years. They're
(31:18):
interested in having power period. As I explained in the book.
In fact, that's all they're about. And if we don't
understand that, that's what they're about. They're not about the
food stamp program or this program or that program. They
are about seizing control over you and over the society.
They are authoritarian democrats. That's what I call them in
(31:39):
the book, authoritarian democrats. We go through the voting system,
we have these three branches of government, we have a constitution.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
But they don't believe in any of it. In the end.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
That's why they threaten them, want to pack the Supreme Court.
That's why they brought in, you know, millions of people
to replace the citizenry. That's why they trash the constitution
and who wrote the constitution while they wave it around
and pretend, depending on the event, whether they support it,
and I can go on and on and on. These
are not people who support the American experiment that professors don't,
(32:13):
the politicians don't, and so it is very important to
understand what we're up against here.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
This is a battle over power. I hope folks will
read it.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I hope it has what I suspect is the intended consequence,
which is to understand how people acquire and wield the power.
When I can guarantee you you are going to learn
a lot, because Mark Levin is, more than anything else,
a teacher just as Rush was, and a great teacher
(32:46):
he is. I'm proud to call him my friend. The
book is on Power by Mark Arlevin. Mark, as always,
I've learned a lot and I've enjoyed our time together.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Keep up the great work, my friend. Move to brother.
I love you. You'd take carriers
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