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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
To match their energy with organizing. I spent the week
in consuming but not contributing to the conversation, not just
about Charlie Kirk, but to the extent that Charlie Kirk
was an instrument of that conversation, that Charlie Kirk took
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on traits that people wanted to extol, that the left
used him as a boogeyman. I posted a comment that
went surprisingly viral because it seems so simple, but maybe
that's why, and I said, Charlie Kirk was killed. Charlie
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Kirk was not killed for speaking to your children. He
was killed because your children listen. It's important to understand,
and I have wondered over this for many years, myself
included when you look at the Venn diagram of the
various bubbles of ages of population, the age that our
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movement has struggled to attract is young people. And that's
important because young people, first of all, have more time
on their hands. They're typically going to one hour of
college a day if that, and then they got a
lot of time to go to rallies and go knock
on doors and be online. Young people dominate the online space,
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and more of them, They're an army of it. Young
people are more aggressive.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They have not learned.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
You know the story about the two bulls and the
young bull wants to run down there, and the big
bulls says no, no, no, Well you need a lot of
young bulls. And what Charlie did, and I think that's
why he was identified early for his influence and value
to improving the country was that this was the young
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people whisperer.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
This was the guy. He had the it factor.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He was the one that could, more than anybody else,
could speak directly to young people. I think I told
you on Wednesday when it happened. It was shortly after
noon Houston time, early afternoon, and I heard about it
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and I was processing what does this mean? And I
always immediately think, well, first figure it out for yourself
before you can go offering any opinions to anyone else.
And as I was processing it for myself, I got
a message from each of my sons. They're not particularly
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political at all. We talk about policy, we talk about
culture and religion.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We talk about how.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
To behave with a woman and how to make good
decisions for yourself, what to do when temptation rears its head,
and how to deal with that, what to do if
someone else is in trouble, all those sorts of things.
But I don't cram down my views on them. I
teach them by example and I share my thoughts. But
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that's I encourage them to think for themselves, ask questions,
argue with me, disagree with me, be comfortable in doing so.
When they were younger, they would say, well, you know
everything we don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You read all. That's okay.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
If you feel it, say it, and I will explain
to you how I came to the conclusion that's one
percent diametrically opposed to that. Well, I spend a lot
of time this weekend, as I said, consuming, not contributing,
thinking through, pondering, trying to develop some perspective.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
What does this mean? Where do we go from here?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I find it to be incredibly indulgent to simply wail,
to emote for long periods of time. I find it
to be incredibly indulgent to be angry.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
A lot of people tell me how angry they are.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
They're so angry, Okay, but.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's not an action.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And I thought to myself, what would Rush do?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
What would Rush?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Rush would always, at a moment like this have wisdom,
and many people will have called Charlie Kirk the.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Rush Limbau for gen Z.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And rush l Rushbo once told the story of meeting
Charlie Kirk for the first time. This is when the
great worlds collide, and I thought, you know what, I
got to share that with you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
They brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet
me about a month ago. He was in town to
set up this turning point thing and they brought him
to the golf course to meet me. It was during
We're getting ready for a eight forty five am start,
and they brought him out while I was getting ready
to go to the range loosen up, and I spoke
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with him for about a half hour, and he told
me how he grew up in a home where my
program was on all the time. He was effusively complimentary
to me, which I of course understood and told.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Him he's very wise.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
His family is very wise.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He chuckle.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
They laughed.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This is the kind of.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Guy that you can see really becoming big in politics
as he gets older. He just has the kind that
carries the person out of the charisma.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You may think this sounds.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Weird, but I remember when Bill Clinton became president. There
were all of these stories about Bill Clinton at Oxford
and Bill Clinton at Yale, and Bill Clinton here and.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
All these people who went to school with him.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
There were a story after story after story where people
were saying that they just knew Bill Clinton was going
to be president someday in college. He just had that
kind of ambition and he impressed people. And I'm telling
you that people saying the same things about Charlie Huron.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Four out of five teachers surveyed said listening to.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
The Michael Barry Show podcast improved their love life. The
fifth person didn't deserve one. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
If you don't follow me on Facebook, to a free too.
It's the site where I post the most. I am
on Twitter because I can engage with other people who
do what I do, and I can engage with a
lot of writers and influencers and talk hosts and politicians,
and it's the easiest, most direct way to communicate with people.
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But I find I get a more raw, authentic interaction
on Facebook because that is not made up of influencers.
It's made up of real people. It's skews older than
my Twitter audience. It's people who are a lot less
tech savvy, people who don't live on their phone, people
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who still look forward to their grandkids coming to visit Thanksgiving.
And I asked the question. I get a lot of
good show input from there, and I always encourage people. Look,
you can post on Facebook, but if you email me,
we have a system setup where I read it and
respond to a lot of them. Emily prints it out.
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So I've got that for the show and it makes
for great show content. And so I asked the question
about I asked the question about if you went to
church this weekend where there are more people than usual,
and did your pastor speak on what happened. I feel
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certain that Christians, especially white Christians, are under attack. I
think men are under attack, and the left ridicules these
sorts of assertions to make us afraid to say them.
But I am not afraid. Those children were praying in
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Minneapolis when they were slaughtered, and the governor, who happened
to be Jewish, not Christian, showed up and said stop
saying pray for them. They were praying when I were killed,
praying doesn't work. What did they close? What did they
close during COVID He made sure to close the church. Well,
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I'm going to play a longer than usual clip because
it's really good and I'm going to amplify it. Pastor
Tom Murray of the People's Church in Salem, Oregon said,
the wicked watches for the righteous and seeks to put
him to death.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
In Salem, Oregon, they're preaching this reach on. Tom Murray
preach on brother.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
In one of those little spots of cell phone coverage,
one of our staff pastors, who was riding with me
in my car, got a text message that Charlie Kirk
had been shot. And that's all we knew because then
we went back into cell phone, no cell phone area.
What's happened? Some of you started to get those news
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note if it someone told you to flip on the
TV to watch what was happening, and just absolute stun
and shock. We pulled into the parking lot to come
back from that direction. We came through State and we
planned to stop and State and check on what was
happening with the renovations there. And as we're stopped there
is when we got the word that Charlie Kirk had died,
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and this is one of those moments that a lot
of us will remember for the rest of our life,
will remember where we were when we got this news
that a voice for the Christian faith and a voice
for conservative values had been assassinated.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
We've heard words.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Associated with our country that we're not used to hearing
associated with our country, words like assassination and martyr. A
martyr is a person who is killed because of their
religious or other beliefs. Psalm thirty seven, verse thirty two
says this the wicked watches for the righteous and seeks
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to put him to death.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It both stuns us, but those of us who know.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Our word are also not surprised that there are people
who will stand up for their faith and will experience
the worst that the enemy can throw. And here we
are today, a young husband and father killed because he
consistently and boldly spoke about his convictions surrounding faith and politics.
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So I believe what we can do today to honor
this voice is by hearing from Charlie Kirk himself. And I
want you to listen to a couple of these clips.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
How do you want to be remembered? We die, everything
just goes away.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
How would you if you could be associated with one thing,
how would you want to be remembered.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
I want to be remembered for for courage from my faith.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
That would be the most important, most important thing is
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
If you know this, but everyone to us, it's important
to remind yourself of that that you face God of
the judge, and he's gonna lit us everything you did wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
In your life.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
It's gonna get a long sentence in hearing from me
when you get justice, which is hell, because that's what
you deserve, mercy, which is less of that which all
A lot of theologians figure.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Out what that is. Or grace? What is grace?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Grace is something so unique, so different, so profound, which
is as soon as the sentence is about to be
aftered in, someone comes in and says, no, I will
serve that prison sentence for him. I will go into
the prison cell for him or her so that they
can live forever.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That's grace.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You didn't earn it.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
You didn't check boxes for it, you didn't go park
cards for a ministry.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And I get if you have stra points.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
To go to heaven, But none of that is true,
is that it's equally accepted for all people that allow
Jesus Christ to be your savior, the savior the world
to be born and new and to be completely and
totally renewed. That's a gift that we must try to
give all people in the world. I then y'all done
that arguing back to the church. That's legit, that's happening
because honestly, it's the only thing that they can find.
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It's a life raft in this just tsunami of chaos
and disorder. So that's a really positive trend in the
minist of all this. So that's my great hope is
this spiritual hope that the young men that are lost,
and if any young man has listening to this right now,
like stop stop watching, stop you know, smoking weed, stop
drinking endlessly, find yourself back to the church.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That will reorient your life and do what the Church
tells you to do.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Right.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Find a woman, marry her, provide have more kids than
you can afford.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
That's my advice for young men. Don't play the.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Victim, even though you legitimately can play the victim card
on everything we've said, the mindset of a victim is parasitic.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
To your soul.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
It's possible that maybe you've been in a on the outside.
Maybe you before this week you'd heard the name Charlie Kirk,
and I've seen a video clip or two, but maybe
you're surprised at just how massive the reaction has been,
and it's left you wondering why. There are influencers, and
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there are politicians, and there are educators who are advancing
gender confusion, broaden access to end life in the room
as is convenient. Anything goes no absolute right and wrong,
and people who would have us believe that all young
adults are bought into this woke ideology.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Young adults are deciding that all those voices don't speak
for me. And what they have found is that through
Charlie Kirk and others, young people are connecting with the
belief that society is better when families are stronger, life
in the womb is worth protecting, hard work is good,
sin is destructive, and we need men to rise up
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to responsibility.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
This is the Michael Berry show, Locked and loaded, can't loaded.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
It.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's one of my favorite states in the Union.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And this always surprises people when I say this is Oregon,
our first affiliate after our home based flagship of Houston
Ktright seven hundred years old. The place that gave me
my start still our flagship to this day.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A heritage station.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I used to say it launched Dan rather, but now
I'm embarrassed to say that. Walter Cronkite worked there. A
number of big names came through there. It's great station,
but the hardest thing is to get station number two.
Getting stationed number fifty easy because Kurt Kretschmer with premiers
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out there talking to stations, and if you have a
station one hour show, you send me an email and
I'll send you to Kurt. But most of it, you know,
for years I had to go get stations myself and
were up against Premiere. Well, since October seventh of this
last year, life got a lot easier in that way
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because Kirk Kretschmer has all the relationships with all the stations,
and he'll email and say, hey, we're going on in
And I get to get.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Out my map.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I love maps, and go look and go, oh, where's Prescott, Arizona.
Oh that's where my buddy Gary Sumner's from. Oh that's
over here, and you okay, that's near this, and where
is this town in Michigan? And where is this town
in Idaho? And where is this town in Minnesota that
I've never been to? And I really really enjoy that.
And by the way, if you want to air our
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show in your market, you can email me Michael Berryshow
dot com and I will personally do anything I can
for your station to help you succeed because we're in
this together. But I would also put Kirk Kreshmer on this,
and he is he is the guru who will be
between him and Ramon. We'll get it all set up
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and we'll be on the air where you are. And
that was for years how we added and got to
over thirty stations, just bootstrapping our little show. But our
first affiliate, we had two affiliates come on Baton Rouge
WJBO and Portland k EX eleven ninety And so we
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would go up for the summers and stay there, me,
my wife and our kids and it was the best
family bonding time. And I didn't know at the time
that Oregon's not based in Portland, it's downstate a little bit.
And sure Oregon has been infected, just as Arizona, Colorado
and Seattle have by the crazy Californians. But I got
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to tell you, the people of Oregon are a robust,
hearty people. They're farmers, their loggers, They're great people, and
I grew to love them, and my kids did too.
Kids considered almost a second home from the years we
would spend there. However, the politics of the majority Party,
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because Montnomah County ends up being so much of the vote,
that the good people of Oregon outside of that have
been sort of displaced. A lot of them moved to Washington,
some of them moved to Idaho.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
A lot of them moved to.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Montana and Wyoming where they don't have to be around lefties.
Do you ever notice how much the people that hate
us so much desperately, desperately need to chase us down
and live next to us. How many Muslims from the
Middle East have come to this country to tell us
how awful this country is. Well, we don't go to
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your country to live there. How many Pakistanis have come
here to tell us how awful this country is, Well,
we don't move to your country. How many people have
come here from what Trump called the craphole countries of
Latin America to tell us how everything here is wrong
because we don't give them one hundred dollars, We only
give them ninety five.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You ever notice that?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And I got news for you. Wherever we move, they
hate us so much that they're coming with us because
they've not created the great nation states, they've not made
the great scientific advancements, they have not created self governance
and security. And frankly, leave us alone and it'll be
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a crime rate lower than anywhere else in the world.
We'll rival Singapore. But back to Oregon, our own beloved
Chad Knackanishi went to the University of Oregon and Michael
t The first school he got into, my oldest son
was Oregon. He was determined he was going to go there.
He ended up going to University of Texas. And our
main reason to try to talk him out of it
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was we'll never get to see you. It's so far away,
just in the summer, and you're gonna come home for
the summers anyway. But all that to say, in Landing
the coach of Oregon, I.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Really like what he did here.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He stood at at the game Saturday after the game,
at the podium, and he didn't try to ignore the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
He showed real leadership.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And hats off to you, Dan Lanning coach and the
University of Oregon. Come on my show anytime. Brother, listen
to this.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
There's been a lot going on in the country last week.
Have you addressed that with your team? Have kind of
you handled that?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Talk about you know, I think the US could learn
a lot from our locker room.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think the people in this world can learn a
lot from our locker room. You're walking out of locker room.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
You got guys in different races, guys in different backgrounds,
different with the religions, and you've got a team that
loves each other. Like tons of differences, tons of differences
where they come from, what they deal with, and ultimately
you got a team that loves each other. And I
think we're missing some of that in our country. You know,
you talked about our recent out like Charlie Kirk was
an organ fan, right, I didn't know that. I heard
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for his wife, Erica and their kids like that that sort
of evil should never exist in our country, and that's
what it is.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Evil.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
But I remember having to explain that to my family, right,
I remember sitting down my kids and explaining what happened,
and they're talking about people talking about it at school,
and it's just sad, right, But it's just as said,
you know, every day it seems like we deal with
some sort of violence that's going on in our country,
whether it's you know, school kids in Colorado or kids
in Minnesota at churches. I mean, life matters, you know,
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and I think we've lost sight of that. But I
just wish, I wish the world could learn a little
bit of something from our locker room, because we got
a bunch of people with differences, and what you got
in there is a bunch of people love there.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And there's some people that'll be.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Disappointed about how much I said about this, right, and
there will be some people that are disappointed that I
didn't say enough.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Right. I really don't care, right.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
What I do care about is if you disagree with me,
if you hate me, if you don't like me, just
know this, I love you.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I absolutely love you.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Right, Life matters, and that's no way that Charlie should experience,
that his family should experience that.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
There's no way that evil should exist in this world.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
And we have to continue to identify and point it
out and make sure that it's absolutely evil.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
There's no reason in the world that.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Our kids we should be worried about sending our kids
to school. It's our most valuable commodity in the world.
They should be protected. And the reality is there's just
not a lot of common sense on both sides, like
common senses.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Oh it's mental health, right, comment says that, oh it's guns,
you know what, it's both Like, let's have some common sense.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Our kids should be the most protected thing in the world, right.
They should have arm guards at every school because there's
sick people. There's sick people in this world, right, And
on top of that, sick people need help, and it
should be really hard for a sick person to have
a gun.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Should be really hard, right, And if.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
People can't see that from both sides, how disappointing is that.
But I just know, like when you've seen moments like
that that exist right now in our country, Like I
just think about my kids and I hope I remember
I saw that video is discussing and I just told them, like, man,
I hope my kids don't.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
See that video commerces that side.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I hope Charlie's kids never see that video, Like discussing right,
and we glorify it, we praise it. You know, people
our Internet warriors, and those are sick people.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
And at some point we need to go look at.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Sports because what our football team has is it has
people on both sides of the fence, right, and there's
fans that love our team that have a lot of
different opinions. And the truth is, there's a lot of
things Charlie said that I did not not agree with
it all. There's a lot of things he said that
I did agree with. But what's disappointing is I can
respect those differences and as somebody else couldn't.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
And they thought that they deserved to be God.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
In that moment and they didn't, right, and nobody should
have to experience that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Michael very young.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Beliephen King still posted, She's a very angry man. It's
very angry. And I assure you his anger is not
He doesn't know this, but his anger is not at
conservatism or race sism, or homophobia, transphobism or xenophobia or
whatever else he has assigned it to. His anger, as
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is somewhat common, is that life and the cycle of it.
You know, a little baby is naive and innocent world
before them, but afraid, afraid because the world is frightening
and everything is a threat. They are like an animal
in nature. They don't know anything outside the realm. Mommy
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goes into the other room. Mommy's abandoned me. They don't
know how to communicate yet, so the only thing they
know that gets attention is to scream and to cry.
You're hungry, man, you just pooped yourself bad, just peed yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
It's unpleasant, it's all over you. Please get it off
of me. You're tired, you want to sleep.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
My wife told me when my kids were young, such wisdom.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I would.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I'm a big one for discipline and.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Respect because that's how I was raised.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So if they were being cranky and disrespectful, never to
me they knew better. But to her I would jump in,
you do not talk to your mother that way. Now
here is the concert. And when they were being cranky,
before I could finish them off, she would say, now
he's hungry or sleepy, or both, so just give me
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five minutes to get some food in him, and after
that you can be mister disciplinarian. All right, And in
five minutes, five minutes, my little angel came back. How
did that work? It's almost like Mama knew something that
Dad didn't. Right, crazy, how that works?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well, the life cycle is cruel, but it's nature. We
go out of the world much like we go into
the world, all probably naked, one form or another, all
the earthly shackles taken off, afraid, scared, confused, sleepy, hungry,
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and most likely if we live to a ripe old age,
about as coordinated or able to use our body or
keep from drooling as a baby is. And some people
don't deal well with that, especially people who've lived as
Kings Stephen King did. He had a lot of money,
he had a lot of public adulation. That's a drug,
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that's a life and as that begins, that tunnel begins
to darken and the end is near. Some people don't
deal well with that. Some people have to look inside
the darkness of their own soul, and so they will
redirect that anger.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
They have.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Anger at the finality of life and the certainty that
it is approaching, and they will insult other people. And
that's what Stephen King has chosen to do, so, he
said online. When someone paid tribute to Charlie Kirk, he
said he was forestoning the gaze. Well, he either hadn't
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read or heard anything Charlie Kirk had ever done, or
he hadn't he was lying, either of which is a
sin of omission or comission.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You're defaming the dead, and for what good? And when
you know, if you're honest, that you've not read a
thing he's ever said. Wow, isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing?
How you can do that? I've been defamed. People over
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the years have told me, Yeah, I get so mad
at work because so and so in the lunch room
will say you're a racist, and I get so mad,
to which I respond, why do you get mad.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Because you're not? Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, if that guy thinks I'm really handsome, that wouldn't
bother you, would it?
Speaker 6 (28:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
If he thinks I'm really ugly, that wouldn't bother you,
would it?
Speaker 6 (28:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I guess not. If he doesn't like my choice and
the clothes I wear, or where I live, or the
word I use as a synonym for another word write,
his opinion doesn't matter. And once we understand that, Ramon,
do you remember who famously said, imagine how much good
you can do in the world if you stop caring
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what other people think about you. Yes that was Michael
christian Berry. That was me, And I believe that stop
caring what other people think about you. Stop engaging in
every little spat online. I see people they beat their chests.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I'm mad, I'm angry, I'm gonna speak out. I'm awake now.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you weren't awake. They
shot Donald Trump last year, they stole the election. They
forced you to wear a mask. They killed my brother
and a lot of other people with a jab, and
you just now woke up. My goodness alive. No wonder
we lose elections. Who else has to be killed before
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some other people wake up? What were you doing before that?
If you weren't awake before that, what were you doing
before that? So two things. If you go out there
and boldly state your opinion, let's say on Facebook, especially
for the older.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
US, I love the Lord.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think that Charlie Kirk was ministering and evangelizing, and
I think his testimony was powerful, and I'm here to
tell you I think it was a good thing in
Godly You need to understand somebody is going if for
no other reason than to be cantankerous and a contrarian.
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Somebody is going to slice you for that. And for
most people, they have never been insulted in that way,
and so the line will go, oh, really, I guess
you're a racist now too, and a white nationalist and
hate gaze because that's what he was.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And then these people will come back, I'm under attack.
I'm under attack. They're trying to attack me.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Come down, some person commented on your social media page.
If you're under attack, you're probably being bruised and bloodied
or worse. You can't simply turn off your social media
page or unclick that window and get out of an attack.
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That is all performance art consume. Don't contribute if you
don't want to be in the conflict or be the
person you want to be when the slings and arrows
are shot at you at that moment, stand tall. Let
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them insult you. That's what Christ did. Let them beat you,
let them be condemned by their own ugly words. The
most strength you can show is to let people insult
what you've said. Post it again tomorrow. Don't engage with
that person. That's the crazy person at the bus stop
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you drove past with matted hair. No matter who they are,
whose wife they are, you know the truth stated and
then let it lay
It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. The
Michael Very Show is on the air.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
To match their energy with organizing. I spent the week
in consuming but not contributing to the conversation, not just
about Charlie Kirk, but to the extent that Charlie Kirk
was an instrument of that conversation, that Charlie Kirk took
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on traits that people wanted to extol, that the left
used him as a boogeyman. I posted a comment that
went surprisingly viral because it seems so simple, but maybe
that's why, and I said, Charlie Kirk was killed. Charlie
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Kirk was not killed for speaking to your children. He
was killed because your children listen. It's important to understand,
and I have wondered over this for many years, myself
included when you look at the Venn diagram of the
various bubbles of ages of population, the age that our
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movement has struggled to attract is young people. And that's
important because young people, first of all, have more time
on their hands. They're typically going to one hour of
college a day if that, and then they got a
lot of time to go to rallies and go knock
on doors and be online. Young people dominate the online space,
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and more of them, They're an army of it. Young
people are more aggressive.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
They have not learned.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
You know the story about the two bulls and the
young bull wants to run down there, and the big
bulls says no, no, no, Well you need a lot of
young bulls. And what Charlie did, and I think that's
why he was identified early for his influence and value
to improving the country was that this was the young
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people whisperer.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
This was the guy. He had the it factor.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
He was the one that could, more than anybody else,
could speak directly to young people. I think I told
you on Wednesday when it happened. It was shortly after
noon Houston time, early afternoon, and I heard about it
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and I was processing what does this mean? And I
always immediately think, well, first figure it out for yourself
before you can go offering any opinions to anyone else.
And as I was processing it for myself, I got
a message from each of my sons. They're not particularly
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political at all. We talk about policy, we talk about
culture and religion.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We talk about how.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
To behave with a woman and how to make good
decisions for yourself, what to do when temptation rears its head,
and how to deal with that, what to do if
someone else is in trouble, all those sorts of things.
But I don't cram down my views on them. I
teach them by example and I share my thoughts. But
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that's I encourage them to think for themselves, ask questions,
argue with me, disagree with me, be comfortable in doing so.
When they were younger, they would say, well, you know
everything we don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You read all. That's okay.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
If you feel it, say it, and I will explain
to you how I came to the conclusion that's one
percent diametrically opposed to that. Well, I spend a lot
of time this weekend, as I said, consuming, not contributing,
thinking through, pondering, trying to develop some perspective.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
What does this mean? Where do we go from here?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I find it to be incredibly indulgent to simply wail,
to emote for long periods of time. I find it
to be incredibly indulgent to be angry.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
A lot of people tell me how angry they are.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
They're so angry, Okay, but.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's not an action.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And I thought to myself, what would Rush do?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
What would Rush?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Rush would always, at a moment like this have wisdom,
and many people will have called Charlie Kirk the.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Rush Limbau for gen Z.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And rush l Rushbo once told the story of meeting
Charlie Kirk for the first time. This is when the
great worlds collide, and I thought, you know what, I
got to share that with you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
They brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet
me about a month ago. He was in town to
set up this turning point thing and they brought him
to the golf course to meet me. It was during
We're getting ready for a eight forty five am start,
and they brought him out while I was getting ready
to go to the range loosen up, and I spoke
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with him for about a half hour, and he told
me how he grew up in a home where my
program was on all the time. He was effusively complimentary
to me, which I of course understood and told.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Him he's very wise.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
His family is very wise.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He chuckle.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
They laughed.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This is the kind of.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Guy that you can see really becoming big in politics
as he gets older. He just has the kind that
carries the person out of the charisma.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You may think this sounds.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Weird, but I remember when Bill Clinton became president. There
were all of these stories about Bill Clinton at Oxford
and Bill Clinton at Yale, and Bill Clinton here and.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
All these people who went to school with him.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
There were a story after story after story where people
were saying that they just knew Bill Clinton was going
to be president someday in college. He just had that
kind of ambition and he impressed people. And I'm telling
you that people saying the same things about Charlie Huron.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Four out of five teachers surveyed said listening to.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
The Michael Barry Show podcast improved their love life. The
fifth person didn't deserve one. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
If you don't follow me on Facebook, to a free too.
It's the site where I post the most. I am
on Twitter because I can engage with other people who
do what I do, and I can engage with a
lot of writers and influencers and talk hosts and politicians,
and it's the easiest, most direct way to communicate with people.
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But I find I get a more raw, authentic interaction
on Facebook because that is not made up of influencers.
It's made up of real people. It's skews older than
my Twitter audience. It's people who are a lot less
tech savvy, people who don't live on their phone, people
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who still look forward to their grandkids coming to visit Thanksgiving.
And I asked the question. I get a lot of
good show input from there, and I always encourage people. Look,
you can post on Facebook, but if you email me,
we have a system setup where I read it and
respond to a lot of them. Emily prints it out.
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So I've got that for the show and it makes
for great show content. And so I asked the question
about I asked the question about if you went to
church this weekend where there are more people than usual,
and did your pastor speak on what happened. I feel
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certain that Christians, especially white Christians, are under attack. I
think men are under attack, and the left ridicules these
sorts of assertions to make us afraid to say them.
But I am not afraid. Those children were praying in
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Minneapolis when they were slaughtered, and the governor, who happened
to be Jewish, not Christian, showed up and said stop
saying pray for them. They were praying when I were killed,
praying doesn't work. What did they close? What did they
close during COVID He made sure to close the church. Well,
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I'm going to play a longer than usual clip because
it's really good and I'm going to amplify it. Pastor
Tom Murray of the People's Church in Salem, Oregon said,
the wicked watches for the righteous and seeks to put
him to death.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
In Salem, Oregon, they're preaching this reach on. Tom Murray
preach on brother.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
In one of those little spots of cell phone coverage,
one of our staff pastors, who was riding with me
in my car, got a text message that Charlie Kirk
had been shot. And that's all we knew because then
we went back into cell phone, no cell phone area.
What's happened? Some of you started to get those news
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note if it someone told you to flip on the
TV to watch what was happening, and just absolute stun
and shock. We pulled into the parking lot to come
back from that direction. We came through State and we
planned to stop and State and check on what was
happening with the renovations there. And as we're stopped there
is when we got the word that Charlie Kirk had died,
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and this is one of those moments that a lot
of us will remember for the rest of our life,
will remember where we were when we got this news
that a voice for the Christian faith and a voice
for conservative values had been assassinated.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
We've heard words.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Associated with our country that we're not used to hearing
associated with our country, words like assassination and martyr. A
martyr is a person who is killed because of their
religious or other beliefs. Psalm thirty seven, verse thirty two
says this the wicked watches for the righteous and seeks
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to put him to death.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It both stuns us, but those of us who know.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Our word are also not surprised that there are people
who will stand up for their faith and will experience
the worst that the enemy can throw. And here we
are today, a young husband and father killed because he
consistently and boldly spoke about his convictions surrounding faith and politics.
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So I believe what we can do today to honor
this voice is by hearing from Charlie Kirk himself. And I
want you to listen to a couple of these clips.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
How do you want to be remembered? We die, everything
just goes away.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
How would you if you could be associated with one thing,
how would you want to be remembered.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
I want to be remembered for for courage from my faith.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
That would be the most important, most important thing is
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
If you know this, but everyone to us, it's important
to remind yourself of that that you face God of
the judge, and he's gonna lit us everything you did wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
In your life.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
It's gonna get a long sentence in hearing from me
when you get justice, which is hell, because that's what
you deserve, mercy, which is less of that which all
A lot of theologians figure.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Out what that is. Or grace? What is grace?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Grace is something so unique, so different, so profound, which
is as soon as the sentence is about to be
aftered in, someone comes in and says, no, I will
serve that prison sentence for him. I will go into
the prison cell for him or her so that they
can live forever.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That's grace.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
You didn't earn it.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
You didn't check boxes for it, you didn't go park
cards for a ministry.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And I get if you have stra points.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
To go to heaven, But none of that is true,
is that it's equally accepted for all people that allow
Jesus Christ to be your savior, the savior the world
to be born and new and to be completely and
totally renewed. That's a gift that we must try to
give all people in the world. I then y'all done
that arguing back to the church. That's legit, that's happening
because honestly, it's the only thing that they can find.
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It's a life raft in this just tsunami of chaos
and disorder. So that's a really positive trend in the
minist of all this. So that's my great hope is
this spiritual hope that the young men that are lost,
and if any young man has listening to this right now,
like stop stop watching, stop you know, smoking weed, stop
drinking endlessly, find yourself back to the church.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That will reorient your life and do what the Church
tells you to do.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Right.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Find a woman, marry her, provide have more kids than
you can afford.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
That's my advice for young men. Don't play the.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Victim, even though you legitimately can play the victim card
on everything we've said, the mindset of a victim is parasitic.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
To your soul.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
It's possible that maybe you've been in a on the outside.
Maybe you before this week you'd heard the name Charlie Kirk,
and I've seen a video clip or two, but maybe
you're surprised at just how massive the reaction has been,
and it's left you wondering why. There are influencers, and
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there are politicians, and there are educators who are advancing
gender confusion, broaden access to end life in the room
as is convenient. Anything goes no absolute right and wrong,
and people who would have us believe that all young
adults are bought into this woke ideology.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Young adults are deciding that all those voices don't speak
for me. And what they have found is that through
Charlie Kirk and others, young people are connecting with the
belief that society is better when families are stronger, life
in the womb is worth protecting, hard work is good,
sin is destructive, and we need men to rise up
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to responsibility.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
This is the Michael Berry show, Locked and loaded, can't loaded.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
It.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's one of my favorite states in the Union.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And this always surprises people when I say this is Oregon,
our first affiliate after our home based flagship of Houston
Ktright seven hundred years old. The place that gave me
my start still our flagship to this day.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A heritage station.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I used to say it launched Dan rather, but now
I'm embarrassed to say that. Walter Cronkite worked there. A
number of big names came through there. It's great station,
but the hardest thing is to get station number two.
Getting stationed number fifty easy because Kurt Kretschmer with premiers
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out there talking to stations, and if you have a
station one hour show, you send me an email and
I'll send you to Kurt. But most of it, you know,
for years I had to go get stations myself and
were up against Premiere. Well, since October seventh of this
last year, life got a lot easier in that way
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because Kirk Kretschmer has all the relationships with all the stations,
and he'll email and say, hey, we're going on in
And I get to get.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Out my map.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I love maps, and go look and go, oh, where's Prescott, Arizona.
Oh that's where my buddy Gary Sumner's from. Oh that's
over here, and you okay, that's near this, and where
is this town in Michigan? And where is this town
in Idaho? And where is this town in Minnesota that
I've never been to? And I really really enjoy that.
And by the way, if you want to air our
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show in your market, you can email me Michael Berryshow
dot com and I will personally do anything I can
for your station to help you succeed because we're in
this together. But I would also put Kirk Kreshmer on this,
and he is he is the guru who will be
between him and Ramon. We'll get it all set up
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and we'll be on the air where you are. And
that was for years how we added and got to
over thirty stations, just bootstrapping our little show. But our
first affiliate, we had two affiliates come on Baton Rouge
WJBO and Portland k EX eleven ninety And so we
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would go up for the summers and stay there, me,
my wife and our kids and it was the best
family bonding time. And I didn't know at the time
that Oregon's not based in Portland, it's downstate a little bit.
And sure Oregon has been infected, just as Arizona, Colorado
and Seattle have by the crazy Californians. But I got
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to tell you, the people of Oregon are a robust,
hearty people. They're farmers, their loggers, They're great people, and
I grew to love them, and my kids did too.
Kids considered almost a second home from the years we
would spend there. However, the politics of the majority Party,
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because Montnomah County ends up being so much of the vote,
that the good people of Oregon outside of that have
been sort of displaced. A lot of them moved to Washington,
some of them moved to Idaho.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
A lot of them moved to.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Montana and Wyoming where they don't have to be around lefties.
Do you ever notice how much the people that hate
us so much desperately, desperately need to chase us down
and live next to us. How many Muslims from the
Middle East have come to this country to tell us
how awful this country is. Well, we don't go to
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your country to live there. How many Pakistanis have come
here to tell us how awful this country is, Well,
we don't move to your country. How many people have
come here from what Trump called the craphole countries of
Latin America to tell us how everything here is wrong
because we don't give them one hundred dollars, We only
give them ninety five.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You ever notice that?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And I got news for you. Wherever we move, they
hate us so much that they're coming with us because
they've not created the great nation states, they've not made
the great scientific advancements, they have not created self governance
and security. And frankly, leave us alone and it'll be
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a crime rate lower than anywhere else in the world.
We'll rival Singapore. But back to Oregon, our own beloved
Chad Knackanishi went to the University of Oregon and Michael
t The first school he got into, my oldest son
was Oregon. He was determined he was going to go there.
He ended up going to University of Texas. And our
main reason to try to talk him out of it
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was we'll never get to see you. It's so far away,
just in the summer, and you're gonna come home for
the summers anyway. But all that to say, in Landing
the coach of Oregon, I.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Really like what he did here.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He stood at at the game Saturday after the game,
at the podium, and he didn't try to ignore the
assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
He showed real leadership.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And hats off to you, Dan Lanning coach and the
University of Oregon. Come on my show anytime. Brother, listen
to this.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
There's been a lot going on in the country last week.
Have you addressed that with your team? Have kind of
you handled that?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Talk about you know, I think the US could learn
a lot from our locker room.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think the people in this world can learn a
lot from our locker room. You're walking out of locker room.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
You got guys in different races, guys in different backgrounds,
different with the religions, and you've got a team that
loves each other. Like tons of differences, tons of differences
where they come from, what they deal with, and ultimately
you got a team that loves each other. And I
think we're missing some of that in our country. You know,
you talked about our recent out like Charlie Kirk was
an organ fan, right, I didn't know that. I heard
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for his wife, Erica and their kids like that that sort
of evil should never exist in our country, and that's
what it is.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Evil.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
But I remember having to explain that to my family, right,
I remember sitting down my kids and explaining what happened,
and they're talking about people talking about it at school,
and it's just sad, right, But it's just as said,
you know, every day it seems like we deal with
some sort of violence that's going on in our country,
whether it's you know, school kids in Colorado or kids
in Minnesota at churches. I mean, life matters, you know,
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and I think we've lost sight of that. But I
just wish, I wish the world could learn a little
bit of something from our locker room, because we got
a bunch of people with differences, and what you got
in there is a bunch of people love there.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And there's some people that'll be.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Disappointed about how much I said about this, right, and
there will be some people that are disappointed that I
didn't say enough.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Right. I really don't care, right.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
What I do care about is if you disagree with me,
if you hate me, if you don't like me, just
know this, I love you.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I absolutely love you.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Right, Life matters, and that's no way that Charlie should experience,
that his family should experience that.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
There's no way that evil should exist in this world.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
And we have to continue to identify and point it
out and make sure that it's absolutely evil.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
There's no reason in the world that.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Our kids we should be worried about sending our kids
to school. It's our most valuable commodity in the world.
They should be protected. And the reality is there's just
not a lot of common sense on both sides, like
common senses.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Oh it's mental health, right, comment says that, oh it's guns,
you know what, it's both Like, let's have some common sense.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Our kids should be the most protected thing in the world, right.
They should have arm guards at every school because there's
sick people. There's sick people in this world, right, And
on top of that, sick people need help, and it
should be really hard for a sick person to have
a gun.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Should be really hard, right, And if.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
People can't see that from both sides, how disappointing is that.
But I just know, like when you've seen moments like
that that exist right now in our country, Like I
just think about my kids and I hope I remember
I saw that video is discussing and I just told them, like, man,
I hope my kids don't.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
See that video commerces that side.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
I hope Charlie's kids never see that video, Like discussing right,
and we glorify it, we praise it. You know, people
our Internet warriors, and those are sick people.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
And at some point we need to go look at.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Sports because what our football team has is it has
people on both sides of the fence, right, and there's
fans that love our team that have a lot of
different opinions. And the truth is, there's a lot of
things Charlie said that I did not not agree with
it all. There's a lot of things he said that
I did agree with. But what's disappointing is I can
respect those differences and as somebody else couldn't.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
And they thought that they deserved to be God.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
In that moment and they didn't, right, and nobody should
have to experience that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Michael very young.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Beliephen King still posted, She's a very angry man. It's
very angry. And I assure you his anger is not
He doesn't know this, but his anger is not at
conservatism or race sism, or homophobia, transphobism or xenophobia or
whatever else he has assigned it to. His anger, as
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is somewhat common, is that life and the cycle of it.
You know, a little baby is naive and innocent world
before them, but afraid, afraid because the world is frightening
and everything is a threat. They are like an animal
in nature. They don't know anything outside the realm. Mommy
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goes into the other room. Mommy's abandoned me. They don't
know how to communicate yet, so the only thing they
know that gets attention is to scream and to cry.
You're hungry, man, you just pooped yourself bad, just peed yourself.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
It's unpleasant, it's all over you. Please get it off
of me. You're tired, you want to sleep.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Nah.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
My wife told me when my kids were young, such wisdom.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I would.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I'm a big one for discipline and.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Respect because that's how I was raised.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So if they were being cranky and disrespectful, never to
me they knew better. But to her I would jump in,
you do not talk to your mother that way. Now
here is the concert. And when they were being cranky,
before I could finish them off, she would say, now
he's hungry or sleepy, or both, so just give me
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five minutes to get some food in him, and after
that you can be mister disciplinarian. All right, And in
five minutes, five minutes, my little angel came back. How
did that work? It's almost like Mama knew something that
Dad didn't. Right, crazy, how that works?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well, the life cycle is cruel, but it's nature. We
go out of the world much like we go into
the world, all probably naked, one form or another, all
the earthly shackles taken off, afraid, scared, confused, sleepy, hungry,
(26:14):
and most likely if we live to a ripe old age,
about as coordinated or able to use our body or
keep from drooling as a baby is. And some people
don't deal well with that, especially people who've lived as
Kings Stephen King did. He had a lot of money,
he had a lot of public adulation. That's a drug,
(26:36):
that's a life and as that begins, that tunnel begins
to darken and the end is near. Some people don't
deal well with that. Some people have to look inside
the darkness of their own soul, and so they will
redirect that anger.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
They have.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Anger at the finality of life and the certainty that
it is approaching, and they will insult other people. And
that's what Stephen King has chosen to do, so, he
said online. When someone paid tribute to Charlie Kirk, he
said he was forestoning the gaze. Well, he either hadn't
(27:22):
read or heard anything Charlie Kirk had ever done, or
he hadn't he was lying, either of which is a
sin of omission or comission.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You're defaming the dead, and for what good? And when
you know, if you're honest, that you've not read a
thing he's ever said. Wow, isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing?
How you can do that? I've been defamed. People over
(27:58):
the years have told me, Yeah, I get so mad
at work because so and so in the lunch room
will say you're a racist, and I get so mad,
to which I respond, why do you get mad.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Because you're not? Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, if that guy thinks I'm really handsome, that wouldn't
bother you, would it?
Speaker 6 (28:18):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
If he thinks I'm really ugly, that wouldn't bother you,
would it?
Speaker 6 (28:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I guess not. If he doesn't like my choice and
the clothes I wear, or where I live, or the
word I use as a synonym for another word write,
his opinion doesn't matter. And once we understand that, Ramon,
do you remember who famously said, imagine how much good
you can do in the world if you stop caring
(28:43):
what other people think about you. Yes that was Michael
christian Berry. That was me, And I believe that stop
caring what other people think about you. Stop engaging in
every little spat online. I see people they beat their chests.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I'm mad, I'm angry, I'm gonna speak out. I'm awake now.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you weren't awake. They
shot Donald Trump last year, they stole the election. They
forced you to wear a mask. They killed my brother
and a lot of other people with a jab, and
you just now woke up. My goodness alive. No wonder
we lose elections. Who else has to be killed before
(29:35):
some other people wake up? What were you doing before that?
If you weren't awake before that, what were you doing
before that? So two things. If you go out there
and boldly state your opinion, let's say on Facebook, especially
for the older.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
US, I love the Lord.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think that Charlie Kirk was ministering and evangelizing, and
I think his testimony was powerful, and I'm here to
tell you I think it was a good thing in
Godly You need to understand somebody is going if for
no other reason than to be cantankerous and a contrarian.
(30:20):
Somebody is going to slice you for that. And for
most people, they have never been insulted in that way,
and so the line will go, oh, really, I guess
you're a racist now too, and a white nationalist and
hate gaze because that's what he was.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And then these people will come back, I'm under attack.
I'm under attack. They're trying to attack me.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Come down, some person commented on your social media page.
If you're under attack, you're probably being bruised and bloodied
or worse. You can't simply turn off your social media
page or unclick that window and get out of an attack.
(31:10):
That is all performance art consume. Don't contribute if you
don't want to be in the conflict or be the
person you want to be when the slings and arrows
are shot at you at that moment, stand tall. Let
(31:31):
them insult you. That's what Christ did. Let them beat you,
let them be condemned by their own ugly words. The
most strength you can show is to let people insult
what you've said. Post it again tomorrow. Don't engage with
that person. That's the crazy person at the bus stop
(31:53):
you drove past with matted hair. No matter who they are,
whose wife they are, you know the truth stated and
then let it lay
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